1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Tory Mackley on the subpon here with 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: the Falcons and Focused Podcasts brought to you by Ticketmaster. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Now we have a special guest, as we always do 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: with this podcast, this week, we have quarterbacks coach TJ 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Yates here joining us. Thank you for joining us, Thank 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: you for having me. Now, before we get started, I 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: do have to read our Ticketmaster sponsorship because we are 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: again brought to you by Ticketmaster as the official ticket 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: marketplace of the Falcons in the NFL. Ticketmaster has a 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: wide selection of tickets available for every game. 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I'm sure you were a 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: great kid. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Phenomenal kids, aenomenal kid. 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: Did nothing wrong. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: No, definitely not Pope high school in Marietta. 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: That's correct, yep. 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: So what's so funny about this is that I didn't 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: realize you quit football. I did, and which is hilarious 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: because you would go on and you would have a 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: really great collegiate career, a solid NFL career, and now 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: you are coaching football. So but as a fifteen sixteen 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: year old, you're like football not it? Sooball. Yeah, so 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: explain to us the story of the day that you 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: thought football was not for you. 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: So it goes back. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm from Indiana, Indianapolis, Indiana, which for those people have 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: seen the movie Hoosiers, it's a big basketball state. I 36 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: grew up loving basketball. Both my parents are Purdue boiler Makers. 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: This past NCAA tournament there glued to the TV. So 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: I just grew up a basketball fan, you know, from 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: a very little kid, and moved to Atlanta when I 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: was in third grade, and obviously still was pursuing basketball 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: and football kind of at the same time. 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't like a first football player. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: I was a basketball player first all the way you know, 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: through growing up. So you know, I just naturally, you know, 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: just kind of played football with my friends and played 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: a little baseball. 47 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: But didn't, you know, I don't think. 48 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: I played baseball past middle school. So then we get 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: to high school in Georgia, I was literally running the 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: triple option, like and that is more you know, it's 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: better for shorter, more athletic quarterbacks, which I don't really 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: fall in that category very much. But I was still 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: you know, heavy on the basketball circuit, heavy AAU, all 54 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: summer long, stuff like that. So after my second straight 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: year of running the option in high school and we 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: were not a very good team. 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: I wasn't very good at it. 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: It was getting beat up a lot, you know, just 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: in on the field, decided to focus strictly on basketball, 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 2: you know, basketball year round AAU. I thought that's where 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: my college future was going to be. So I took 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: my junior year off of playing football and focused you know, 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: solely on basketball, and then had some offers in basketball, 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: some kind of lower level you know, like Georgia Southern Furman, 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, the old Southern Conference basketball conference. But then 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: going into my senior year, we got a brand new 67 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: coach who brought in a spread offense completely different than 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: what we'd run the past couple of years. And honestly, 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: I'd missed playing with my friends. So go out my 70 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: senior year literally just to play football and have fun. 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: And it was I don't know two three four games 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: into the season, there was a North Carolina linebacker coach 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: scouting two linebackers on the other team from Woodstock High School, 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: one of which actually ended up playing in the NFL 75 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: for a while. But I had a really good game 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: that game, and I think it was the next Monday 77 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: or next Tuesday, I get called to my head coach's 78 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: office and I walk into the head coach office and 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: it's the linebacker coach from North Carolina and he like 80 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: told me to stand up. He's like, you stand up 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: for me. I was like, okay, sure, and he like 82 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: I stood up and he goes, okay, yeah, we'll. 83 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: Take him now. I was like, just like, what are 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: you talking about it? What do you mean? 85 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: Like? 86 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't know who are you. 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I want to offer you a scholarship 88 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: to play football at North Carolina. I was like, done, 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: but take it, like in solely based off like the 90 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: school and academics and like overall experience. It was like 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Georgia Southern to play basketball or U and C to 92 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: play football. And I called my dad like right after that. 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: I was like, Dad, I got offered from North Carolina. 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: He's like in basketball, no, no, in football. 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: I was like, he said, what are you gonna do? 96 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: It's like I want to go. 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: So I committed before I've ever even been on campus 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: or anything like that, to play football there. So that's 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: the long story short of me just kind of gravitating 100 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: toward football. 101 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: Was it just like a. 102 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: Gut feeling that made you want to like not even 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: visit the campus. 104 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: Then I just knew, like, you know, being just a 105 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: North Carolina fan just for so long, you know, Michael Jordan, 106 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: like we I have pictures back in the day from 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: like when I was a little kid where I had 108 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: like a UNC jersey or UNC jacket, like you know, 109 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: just naturally growing up like in them just because basketball 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's so I was like, I think it was 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: more of the cool factor. 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, cool you and see, let's go. 113 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: I had no decision on like football, basketball. I just 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: like immediate was like okay. I was just like so 115 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: brought back by what happened. 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, sounds good. 117 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: That is insane. And you say like you had a 118 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: good game. But we looked it up and it was 119 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: like the game that that linebackers coach was there. It 120 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: was a five touchdown game, over three hundred passing yards 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at it correctly, double overtime game. Yeah, 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: And that's what's so crazy about Like, and the more 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I talk to scouts, the more I realized, like sometimes 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: the best people you find are not the ones you're 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: looking for. And this is a prime example of that. 126 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: And the fact that you were only a few games 127 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: into like back playing again, Yeah, I don't know did 128 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: when you look back at that time and you think 129 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: about the decision that ultimately kind of altered the direction 130 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: of your life absolutely at sixteen seventeen years old, Like 131 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: what does that make you feel? For that kid just 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: kind of being like sure, I'll go play again. 133 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: You know. 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: The guy who recruited me was a guy named Tommy Thinkpinn, 135 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: who I'm still very close with, Like I tell him 136 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: all the time, like, like you changed my life, like 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: your eye whatever you saw that day, like your decision 138 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: to like call up the head coach at the time, 139 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: like hey we got offer this kid, Like he just 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: tore it up on the field, Like if he would 141 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: have not even been paying attention or you know, just 142 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: left the game early or whatever. Like everything happens for 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: a reason, And it wasn't really anything that I did 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: or to kind of change in all to that course. 145 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: It was more about another guy taking a chance on me, 146 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: which was, you know, really cool and a cool way 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: to think of it. Like you said, I mean, it 148 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: literally changed everything about my life. If I would have 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: gone here done this, I would have been not here 150 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: right now, that's for sure. 151 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were trying to get recruited for basketball. When 152 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: you're playing football and you're just free and having fun 153 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: with your friends, does that make it easier to like, 154 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: you know, record five touchdowns and then get recruited the 155 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: next day. 156 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: I mean it wasn't like pressure on me. It wasn't 158 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: like I was going into that season being like I 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: have to play good so I can get a scholarship. 160 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: Like I knew I always had basketball to like fall 161 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: back on. So yeah, I mean, yeah, there was a 162 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: certain thing about not overthinking thinking too much's going out 163 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: there and playing free, and like you said, I was 164 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: literally just going out there having fun with my friends 165 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: and worked out pretty well. 166 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get to you and C and you 167 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of start that process. Was there ever a point 168 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: in time where you look back and you, I mean, 169 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: I feel like you probably never fell out of love 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: with football. It was just always basketball was your first love. 171 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: So at what point, maybe during the years that you 172 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: were at UNC, did you really start to feel like, 173 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: wait a minute, like I'm exactly where I'm supposed to 174 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: be and I'm playing the sport that is gonna be 175 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: something for me. 176 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: It probably didn't happen till my senior year because going 177 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: into it like I was like the fifth quarterback my 178 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: freshman year, like a red shirted did all that, and 179 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: we had a coaching change going into my second year, 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: and it was basically like an open competition, and but 181 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: there was like four or five quarterbacks on the roster. 182 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: So again there wasn't much expectation from my point. It 183 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: wasn't like I was going out there like, hey, I'm 184 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: the starter, Like I was just like kind of happy 185 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: to be there. I knew I was gonna work hard 186 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: and kind of see what happens and then start my 187 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: freshman year, sophomore year, start again, get hurt, have to 188 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: come back from that. Started my junior year had an 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: awful year, like awful year, and then. 190 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: I'm sorry to laugh, but true. We've been looking at 191 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 5: like stats and stuff. 192 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, like all time I'm this all time bad. 193 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: This still holds this record. 194 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like there was like low points my 195 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: junior year in college. Like I'm walking off the field 196 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: at home and people are like throwing stuff at me, 197 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: like change and batteries and like all this stuff. 198 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is very fun. 199 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: I heard you got booed at a basketball game. 200 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: I got booded at a basketball I was there at 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: a basketball game. And then I somehow like they have 202 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: this like kind of prompt that all like the collegiate 203 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: athletes say. They're like I'm TG Yates and I'm a 204 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: tar heel, Like they go through like all these different 205 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: athletes from around the school saying it and then here's 206 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: my turn. So it was well deserved because I did 207 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: not play good in my junior year at all. 208 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: How do you mentally like get out of that though, 209 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: because you go on to have, you know, the senior 210 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: year that you had. But I feel like all the while, 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: and this is just me personally, like I would have 212 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: that in the back of my head just kind of 213 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: like weighing down on me. So how did you from 214 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: a mental standpoint move past that. 215 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: So going into my senior year, there was you know, 216 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: just like every year in college, there's a new fresh 217 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: recruit that's coming in that he's going to beat you out, 218 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: he's there for a reason, whatever, And it was honestly, 219 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: I was just trying to keep my job, Like I 220 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: didn't want to ride the bench my senior year because 221 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: the kid they brought in, the guy named Brent Runner, 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: was really good and he's still one of my great 223 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: friends to this day. Just healthy competition, you know, that 224 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: was a huge part of what pushed me. Not only 225 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: I didn't want to lose my starting job, but then 226 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: at the same time, I had this really talented kid 227 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: behind me pushing me every day to you know, keep 228 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: getting better and better and better. 229 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: And then you know, there was actually a lot of 230 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: you know. 231 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: Stuff around my senior year that happened because we had 232 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: all these NCAA allegations, all these kids were suspended, all 233 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: these different things. We're going into the first game of 234 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: the year against LSU and the Georgia Dome and the 235 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: Chick fil. 236 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: A kickoff, we had like thirty guys. 237 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Suspended from the game, and it's kind of a little 238 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: bit of blessing in disguise. We weren't weren't going to 239 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: be this huge passing team, you know, it was not 240 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: really our huge thing. We're gonna be more running team. 241 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: But you go into this game two running backs are 242 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: down two anyways, we had to like throw the ball 243 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: over all over the yard and then that LSU game 244 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: I ended up throwing for four hundred some yards whatever. 245 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: And then I remember after that game like somebody had 246 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: contacted my dad, like an agent had contacted my dad 247 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: about like representing me in the future. And that was 248 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of the point. I was like, why does this 249 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: guy want to represent me? 250 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: And what do you meet? 251 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, oh, there's a future, a future 252 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: after this. 253 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: So that was like you asked that question earlier. 254 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: That was really kind of the point where I was like, Okay, 255 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: this could actually be something after college and continued on 256 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the year having a really good year 257 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: and ended up, you know, making it up here. 258 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: And so you get there and you're drafted in the 259 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: fifth round to Houston and once the season gets going, 260 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: Matt Shob's a starter. You have Matt Lionard and the 261 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Q two. You in the third string just you know, 262 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: riding it out, and then those guys go down and 263 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: here you are stepping into a starting role. What was 264 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: it like in those first snaps when when you went 265 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: in it was the second quarter? 266 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: Right, it was the second quarter, and Jackson thinks Jackson 267 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: really yep. Thankfully it was a two minute drill, so 268 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I literally hadn't had any time to think. Yeah, Like literally, 269 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: Liner went down broke his collar bone, like, hey, you're in. 270 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: It was my first game ever dressing in the NFL, 271 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, and it's just like boom, I didn't have 272 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: time to think, which is actually kind of nice. We 273 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: ended up going down to a two minute drill and getting 274 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: a field goal, and then you. 275 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: Know, halftime comes around. You start to settle down and 276 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: you start thinking a little bit. Yeah, then the nerves 277 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: start kicking in a little bit. 278 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: But I had such a good team around me, Like 279 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: we were very talented on defense, We had an awesome 280 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: running game, and Andre Johnson had Arian Foster. 281 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: I had a whole host of guys up front. 282 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: Like Gary Kubiak and calling the plays like they made 283 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: it really easy on me. Obviously for a guy in 284 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: that position to step in and still have success. Then 285 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: we ended up making the playoffs that year, which was 286 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: really cool, and that kind of you know, sprung me 287 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: forward to the rest of my career and that was. 288 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 4: Historic because they hadn't yet in franchise history clinched a 289 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: playoff birth and in that game, in a comeback victory 290 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: where there's all these emotions running high, was it true 291 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: that you did not know that that game clinched it? 292 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: Nope, no clue. 293 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So to set the scene, it's twenty eleven, you're 294 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: you're starting quarterbacks are hurt, y'all are about to clinch. 295 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like week in Cincinnati. 296 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, walk us through that day. Because to On and 297 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: I were having this conversation, We're like, how did he 298 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: not know? Like how did you not know that? Because 299 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I think, like I think about, like from our perspective, 300 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: it's like, that's all you talk about. If that's like 301 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: coming up like that they could potentially clinch, It's like 302 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: that's all you're talking about in the week leading up. 303 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: You're the starting quarterback. How did you go an entire 304 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: week and not truly like that? That sink in and I. 305 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Guess at that point, I was just like so worried about, 306 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, playing because that was only the third or 307 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: fourth game I. 308 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: Played, so third or fourth star, whatever it was. So 309 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 3: I was just so worried. 310 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: About like the playbook and making sure I had this 311 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: guy coming in motion and like you know, I was 312 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: just so deep dive into the playbook and making sure 313 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: I was all my stuff, and I don't maybe I 314 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: had Twitter back then. I don't even know when it 315 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: was like the media wasn't as big as it is, yeah, immediately, 316 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: So I mean I guess that I just didn't even 317 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: realize I didn't know the scenarios. 318 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 319 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I was very green as a rookie. Like I mean 320 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: even in that game again, like the first half, I 321 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: played terrible, Like after a horrible pick, like Gary Kubiak 322 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: pulled me off to the side, like I'm like trying 323 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: to walk off the sideline after the pick and like 324 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: kind of like go away from him, and he's like 325 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: meeting me at the spot and it just absolutely choose 326 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: me out. 327 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: It was. 328 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: It was the coolest thing because he was like it's 329 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: like what are you doing? 330 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: What the eff are you doing? 331 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: What do you seeing blah blah blah blah blah, and 332 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: I tried to explain myself in the best way I could. Yeah, 333 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: he was like, I will get ready because we're coming 334 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: back out. 335 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: We're throwing the ball. 336 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, got it. Gary Kuback is 337 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: one of the best coach I've ever had. He was 338 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: and I made a bad portrayal of him, but like 339 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: he was an awesome coach and he gave you a 340 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: lot of confidence playing. But he was like, hey, like 341 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: get past it. We're gonna come back out. We're gonna 342 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: keep slinging around. Yeah, second half, you know, go back 343 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: out there. Crazy game. We're down two scores with like 344 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, eight minutes to go, we score, get 345 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: the ball back, and like even in the moment, like 346 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: of the last two minutes real like I'm just trying 347 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: to get down to their score. Like I wasn't worried 348 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: about the situation because I didn't know the situation. Like 349 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: I was just trying to, you know, win, and we 350 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: get back into the locker room. Awesome win for us. 351 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: Come back touchdown with a couple of seconds left, we 352 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: can't get to go by one, and we get into 353 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: the locker room, you know, I was just like, Oh cool, 354 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: everybody's celebrating because this is an awesome win, and they're 355 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: like everybody's watching the TV. And I think it was 356 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: Tennessee versus New Orleans had you know, the clinching. I 357 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: don't know who the win lost, whatever it was, whoever was, 358 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: and like everybody starts going nuts and they start passing 359 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: out these hats and was. 360 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: Like, wait, do we just win the division? Like I'm 361 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: not joking. I had zero clue, like none at all. 362 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that helped you though, Like that 363 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: you went into that game and you're just like, we're 364 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: just playing to win, Like there's no there's there's not 365 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: this thing in the back of your head being like 366 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: if you don't win, you go another week where you 367 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: potentially could clinch, but then you kind of like destiny's 368 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: in somebody else's hands type of thing. 369 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of going back to what you're saying earlier. 370 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: It's like when you're not thinking about certain things, you're 371 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: not you know, clouding your brain with all these different 372 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: intrusive thoughts that have nothing to do with what you're 373 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: actually doing. Like you're just playing free and going out 374 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: there and having fun, like not worrying about the situation, 375 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: the what ifs, Like it helps, Yeah, it sure does. 376 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: And then we fast forward a little bit a couple 377 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: of years. You find yourself in Atlanta for the first time, 378 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: and it's twenty fourteen. And what's interesting too, is that 379 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: your first professional start was against the Falcon Correct in 380 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: twenty and eleven, that year that we're talking about. 381 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: Against Matt Ryan. 382 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: Yes that I always still give him crap about. 383 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: Really did y'all beat him? 384 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 385 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you do? And how did Matt do? 386 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: He played one of his uh not as good games, okay, 387 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: and I. 388 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: Played a little bit better. 389 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: I think he threw a couple of picks early in 390 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: the game that really helped us out. And again, we 391 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 2: had a really good team. Like I did not do much. 392 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: I handed the ball off, threw one touchdown pass, like 393 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: I had like eleven completions. Like it wasn't like I 394 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: would let the world on fire. Like our defense took 395 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: care of everything for us. But every once in a while, 396 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: give Matt a little nudge. 397 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah you know that one time I beat you. 398 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: It's funny because your your story kind of goes through 399 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Atlanta a little bit. You know, your kid from Marietta, 400 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: played high school in Marietta, and then you come in 401 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and your Matt Ryan's backup, and what was 402 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: that year like for you? I know, like didn't get 403 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: a ton of playing time, but what was it like 404 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: for you to kind of come back home? 405 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: In a sense? 406 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 2: It was cool, you know, obviously it's a shock when 407 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: you get released for the first time from a team 408 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: we got drafted by and had so much success there. 409 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: So I actually was released, but I was released at 410 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 2: the end of the day, so it hadn't gone through 411 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the waiver wire yet and it had come out on 412 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: you know, the internet that I was released, but I 413 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: wasn't actually released yet. Yeah, So then the Falcons ended 414 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: up trading for me instead. So instead of getting released, 415 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: I got traded for all in like like a ten 416 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: hour period, which was kind of funny. And just remember 417 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: that getting the phone calls like you ready to go home? 418 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going home anyways, what are you 419 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: talking about? 420 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: Getting traded to the Falcons? 421 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: So now that was really cool and being back with 422 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: my family and I've been extremely fortunate, blessed because coaching 423 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: and playing has taken up like eighty percent has been 424 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: in Atlanta or Houston, like I had a small stint 425 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: with Buffalo, a small stint with Miami, but coaching and playing, 426 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: I've been in Houston and Atlanta, which are basically like 427 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: my two homes. So and a lot of it's obviously 428 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: been here. That's just so rare in this business. To 429 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: be around my family, my wife's family, all of our 430 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: extended family like Christmas and Thanksgiving with your entire family 431 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: in this business as a coach is so rare. 432 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 3: So that part's really cool. 433 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think back to that year, you know, 434 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan just retired. We're recording this probably a couple 435 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: of weeks after he officially announced his retirement. What was 436 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: your favorite memory of that time? And we do have 437 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: a question for you if you don't bring it up yourself, 438 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: So what's your favorite Matt Ryan memory? And working together. 439 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: With him still obviously a really good buddy of mine, 440 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: played a lot of golf together, a lot of good 441 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: times off the course. I do remember one time we 442 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: went to Green Bay on Sunday night. Okay, end up 443 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: ferocious comeback that he led. We ended up losing, but 444 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: he got up in front of the team after the 445 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: game and gave this like postgame speech and like I 446 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: swear the entire team was ready to run back out 447 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: on the field right after that. I was the most 448 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: pumped up I've ever been pregame, but it was after 449 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: a loss. Like it was wild, like to see like 450 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: his true leadership and how a certain person can make 451 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: an entire team believe in somebody. 452 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: Like that part was really cool, like opened my eyes. 453 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, this dude is the real deal, 454 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: not only as a player, but like as a as 455 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: a leader and like a person. 456 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: That part was that was really cool. 457 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now the question that we have for you, did 458 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: you ever get to throw a pass to Julio. 459 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: No strict no. 460 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: Routes on air practice whatever. If Julio was up ready 461 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: to go over there, Matt Ryan's thrown him the ball 462 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: like nobody else but him. Like people are like, oh, yeah, 463 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: what's it like to throw to Julio. I was like, 464 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I got no clue, no idea. That's my favorite, no 465 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: idea even the like I mean maybe like playing catch 466 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: like pregame or something like that, like I probably have 467 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: at some point, but it's like a physical route and practice. 468 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: Never thrown on the ball. 469 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: Like those two sound very quintindential. 470 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, was it like an unspoken rule or did 471 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Matt ever say like question? 472 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: I think it was probably like the first time around 473 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: when we're doing, like, you know, just throwing routes in practice, 474 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: and like it's just my turn up and his turn up. 475 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: Either Julio nw to like step back in line to 476 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: line up with Matt, or you know, Matt just giving 477 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: me a little little nudge like. 478 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: You're good, all right, buddy, to go pretty. 479 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: It's kind of an unspoken thing pretty early on. 480 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I got you. That's great. So you're you go 481 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: back to Houston and your career kind of like and 482 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: I want you to set this up because it's such 483 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: an interesting full circle moment, a nice little parallel, if 484 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: you will, Yes, of your career. 485 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, so you get back to Houston to 486 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 4: finish your career. Correct, just John Watson starter yep uh, 487 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 4: I forget to set Tom Savage, Tom Savage, Yes, thank you, 488 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: QB two you third, Trinck TV three, They they all 489 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 4: start dropping like flies again. Yes to parallel your rookie season. 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: How do you like, you know when you look back 491 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: at that, how do you quantify that moment. How did 492 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: you stay ready in those moments and not you know, 493 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 4: check out and just this is my career and this 494 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: is who I am. 495 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I heard the quarterbacks that are like on 496 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: the streets as free agents that are like still working out, 497 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: like during the season. 498 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: It is not an easy life. Like you wake up, 499 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: you don't really have anything to do. 500 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: You're trying to find receivers to throw to, You're trying 501 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: to work out, like you're watching every Sunday just like 502 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: I want to say, hoping somebody gets hurt, but like 503 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: hoping for an opportunity to open up, whatever that opportunity 504 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: may be. And it's like as soon as one quarterback 505 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: goes down, it's like, oh, maybe somebody give me a 506 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: phone call. But then you know, it's kind of just 507 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: a weird spot to be in, so you have to 508 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: like stay motivated, you know. At the same time, Like 509 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: at that point in my career, I'm starting to think, like, 510 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: all right, if I don't get that phone call, what 511 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: am I gonna do? Like, you know, your funds don't 512 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: last forever, so you guys start thinking about job. I 513 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: had a family at that point, But then you know, 514 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: You're just sitting there on one random Thursday night at 515 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: eight thirty and Bill O'Brien calls you and he's like, hey, 516 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: what are you doing right now? 517 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: Like you you awake? I mean, yeah, I'm awake. 518 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: He's like, can you make a nine fifteen flight or 519 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: whatever it was? And I like hopped on a plane, 520 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: got to Houston on Friday morning, did my. 521 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 3: Physical walk straight out to practice. 522 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: No warm up, get thrown right into like a red 523 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: zone drill, and then I'm the two on Sunday, like 524 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: going into the game, like dressing on Sunday. Going from 525 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: like that Monday, I don't know. I was probably drinking 526 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: beers with my buddies, like hanging out watching Monday night football, 527 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: and then like fast forward to Friday, Like Sunday, I'm 528 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: getting ready to play a NFL game. So you know 529 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: those spots to be in you always have to be 530 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: ready and you always have to be you know, kind 531 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: of on point, and even if you're not ready, you 532 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: better be ready. 533 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you learn about yourself kind of during 534 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: that time and how does that experience relate to you 535 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: as a teacher and coach today? 536 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: I think my experience going back to Houston multiple times, 537 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: went back there three separate times. I think it honestly. 538 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this would be more of a question for 539 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: somebody that in their organization to answer, But I think 540 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: I had to do more with relationships and me building 541 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: those relationships with you know, ownership and scouting departments and 542 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and just trust that I had with 543 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: people in that building, trust that I previously had with 544 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien that I knew the system. I can come 545 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: back in and be on the drop of a hat 546 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: to be ready to go on a Sunday. So it 547 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: was more about whenever you're in a certain spot or 548 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: in a certain place, it's a lot more about you know, people, relationships, 549 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: you know, getting to know people, all that kind of stuff, 550 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: not just always strictly strictly x's and o's and performance. 551 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: And all that stuff. 552 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: Because I don't really have an answer for a while 553 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: else like there was a lot of other more talented 554 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: quarterbacks out there that they could have gone and picked up, 555 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: but I think those things were some of the stuff 556 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: that helped me get there. 557 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 5: I love it. 558 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: That's a nice note to end on. Well, we've been 559 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: talking for about twenty three minutes, but we always have 560 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: to finish up with our rapid fire section. I know, 561 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: it's very exciting. So everybody gets five questions, some are 562 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: we'll do the same like four ish questions for everybody, 563 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: but there's always one that is special to the person 564 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: in the chair. So are you ready? 565 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: I don't think so? 566 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you're ready, nonetheless, because here we go. What 567 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: was your favorite play of your career? And this could 568 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: have been high school, it could be college, it could 569 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: be in the pros. It could be one that you 570 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: just watched too now that you've been coaching for a 571 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: little bit. 572 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: It was definitely the gam we referenced earlier the Cincinnati 573 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: game to clinch the playoffs through like a three yard 574 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: touchdown pass and my buddy Kevin Walter to clinch the division. 575 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: I did not know at the time, but I found 576 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: out later to clinch the division was that great? 577 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: All right? Uh? Fave player you know what? 578 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Sport? 579 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 580 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: Probably basketball? 581 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: Maybe? 582 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Growing up? What was he was your favorite player? Growing up? 583 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 3: Uh? 584 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: I believe it from Indiana. I was a huge Reggie 585 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: Miller fan. 586 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: Kind of feeling you're going to stay. 587 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pacers were a big part of our life. 588 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: We're a big Pacers fans, and Reggie Miller at that 589 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: time was like the guy uh there. 590 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: So growing up, I was a huge Regi Miller fan. 591 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: I love it. That's so great. Okay. If I know 592 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on at this time of the year, 593 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we're in the off season, but we're 594 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: also not in the off season because there's so many 595 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: balls in the air that you're juggling. But if you 596 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: could recommend a TV show or movie in the spare 597 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: time of the audience, what would you recommend to them 598 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: to watch current any anything, whatever you like to watch. 599 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: We were actually talking about this the other day in 600 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: the quarterback room, like favorite series to watch, talking about 601 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: movies and stuff. 602 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: I am a huge Entourage fan. 603 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I've rewatched that series. 604 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: Disgusting amount of. 605 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Disgusting about like everything about it. 606 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: I could quote the whole thing. I'd go back and 607 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: watch it tonight. 608 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Ye, fantastic everyone Entourage watch it all right? 609 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: If you were to have a superpower, what would it be? 610 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: This is always one of my favorite ones because one 611 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: it kind of trips people up, but also two we 612 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: get some good answers from it. It really gets into 613 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: the mind of go time travel. Okay, are you jumping ahead? 614 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: Are you going backwards? 615 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Back? 616 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay? Where you going? 617 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: Who? 618 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: What? 619 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: Time? 620 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: I actually can do both kind of go forward. 621 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: And but I guess if you're a time travel you 622 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: can do. But unless you kind of are under the 623 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: assumption that like time hasn't happened yet so there's nothing 624 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: to jump forward too. 625 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 3: Or it's a real deep time is linear and you 626 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: can jump through dimensions and all that stuff. Yeah, i'd 627 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: go time travel. I would go back. 628 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: I think there are so many advantages that, you know, 629 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 2: you could place a bet on something, maybe invest in 630 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: a stock here and there, you could go. 631 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: Back down on secretariat. 632 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, go back and you know, see your family 633 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: members when they were younger. 634 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: I think that would be cool. 635 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: I think it'd be a little weird to jump ahead 636 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: because then you'd find out some stuff you probably don't 637 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: want to find out. 638 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Good point, you already like you want to go back. 639 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of already know what happened in the past. 640 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: You can just go check it out from a observation. 641 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to. 642 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: Interact butterfly effect all that stuff. 643 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm not even here anywhere exactly. 644 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: I think that's good. 645 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: That's the first time we've had time travel. It's a 646 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: really good one. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Last one, who 647 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: gave you the toughest hit of your career? 648 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: Oh, this is an easy one. 649 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: Okay. 650 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: Well I'll give you one college and one pro. 651 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Okay. 652 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: So I was at. 653 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: University of North Carolina and one of my team, not 654 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: one of my team, that's one of the guys I 655 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: was on the team here last year. A guy named 656 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: Klays Campbell, you know him. 657 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 3: He hit me so hard and like I. 658 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Think, he hurt like five different things all my wrist, 659 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: like I cracked a rib, got like a minor concussion, 660 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: got the wind knocked out of me, like I thought 661 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: I got hit by a car, and like all it 662 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: happened at the exact same time. Fast forward to the NFL. 663 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: My first career start against the Falcons against Matt Ryan. 664 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: It was like the second quarter, third quarter, whenever it 665 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: was play action to the right, John aber him absolutely 666 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: whoops the right tackle. Sorry, Eric Winston, he missed on 667 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: that one, beats him and I'm going to throw to 668 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: my left and I just get absolutely leveled. And the 669 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: only thing I remember about it that I hit the 670 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: ground before I remember anything, somehow held onto the ball, 671 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: but I remembered vividly both of my contacts popping out 672 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: of my arm. No, this one like disappeared. This one 673 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: was like still on my eye, so like I found 674 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: this one, put it back in, and then the left 675 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: one was just gone, so like the rest, and I 676 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: didn't have like a spear on the sideline. So for 677 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: like a quarter, I'm playing without like a left field 678 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: like downfield contact. 679 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: Because John Abram hit me so hard on both of my. 680 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 5: Ins, I did not think we were gonna get that story. 681 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: It didn't hurt though. It was like it was just 682 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: like the like my pads did a great job. I 683 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: helped did a great job. Like I wasn't like I 684 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: was just like what just happened to me? 685 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So I'm also glad that you brought up Klais, 686 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: because we have a parting gift for you, a nice 687 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: little photo. Here's you and Khalais. Look how nice y'all 688 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: look together. Show the people, Show the class, says Khalas Campbell. 689 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: One of his one hundred sacks against me. That's me 690 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: laying on the ground. This is like a basically a 691 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: screenshot of the exact same thing happened at Miami, right, yeah, 692 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, who's your Who's. 693 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: Who's the guy who's seventy nine right there? Because he's 694 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: kind of giggling. 695 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: A little bit, you know what, I'm gonna leave him 696 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: on named because I don't want. 697 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: To uh, I don't need to call it. I want 698 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: to call out another tackle because I already got one. 699 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: That was so bad. 700 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 3: But yes, that was that was a rough day. 701 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: I think we lost like thirty one to seven, but 702 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: I threw a touchdown passing. Yeah, that's it. Well, that's 703 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: a great not to bring bad memories. Thank you. 704 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: You know, we like we like to bring up things 705 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: on this podcast. We like to have a little fun, 706 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 5: a little bit of laughter. 707 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time to chat 708 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: with us. I hope, I hope it's been fun going 709 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: down memory lane. 710 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 711 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Hey. Great, Well, everybody make sure to like and subscribe 712 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Falcons podcast Network. You can check us 713 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: out on Spotify, YouTube, Apple podcasts, anywhere you get your podcasts. 714 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: We're there coming to you quite often. You see us 715 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: all the time. Omna, TJ Tori. Thank you guys so much. 716 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: This has been a fun one. 717 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: Thanks guys,