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Speaker 1: Busy Monday, the very busiest of Mondays. We are live

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Speaker 1: or in Chicago. It is the Herd wherever you may be,

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Speaker 1: however you may be listening or watching, whatever the platform,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: a very good football coach, has been dismissed the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's tenth team, a third of the league, tenth team

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Speaker 1: looking for a head coach, and I think when you

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Speaker 1: have Josh Allen, it's okay to demand greatness. Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Jimmy Johnson, Bill Belichick. Josh Allen's the kind

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Speaker 1: of quarterback they can win not one, not two, but

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Speaker 1: three Super Bowls. McDermott's a good man and a good coach,

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Speaker 1: but the Bills kept finding ways to lose. The thirteen

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Speaker 1: bow knicks up and down the field three hundred plus yards.

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Speaker 1: I mean there was the tush push last year. They

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Speaker 1: couldn't get that right. The last three years Buffalo has

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Speaker 1: lost fourth quarter leads in all games. All of their

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Speaker 1: losses they lost fourth quarter leads. It was time not

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Speaker 1: quite buttoned up. The general manager, in my opinion, Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean more of a cap guy than a personnel guy,

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Speaker 1: hasn't done McDermott any favors. The wide receiver corps is

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Speaker 1: mostly anemic. There are no Pro bowlers on the defensive side.

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Speaker 1: Even James Cook, Josh Allen's best teammate, leads all running

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Speaker 1: backs in fumbles. But Saturday wasn't a loss, it was

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Speaker 1: a reckoning. It fell different. The locker room was fifty

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Speaker 1: five broken men. McDermott man at the officiating, I get it.

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Speaker 1: But when John Elway was in Denver, they moved off

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Speaker 1: Dan Reeves. Tan Reeves had been to three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Dan Reeves was a great coach, but not great enough

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Speaker 1: for John Alway's talent. And Sean McDermott again. Eight playoff wins.

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Speaker 1: That is the most ever in league history by any

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Speaker 1: coach that hasn't appeared in a Super Bowl, he's a coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a good coach. I'll be honest. I think he

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Speaker 1: out really quickly. I'd Hireman one second in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: But each loss hurt more, each loss mounted thirteen second loss,

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Speaker 1: can't get the toush push right, blowing fourth quarter leads

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Speaker 1: Saturday bo Nicks kind of did what he wanted. Five

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Speaker 1: often is pressing to put on a cap, getting a

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Speaker 1: his lack of receiving help or a defense that can

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Speaker 1: be good at times but isn't special, not as good

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Speaker 1: a great job. I'm sitting here this morning thinking John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski here probably checking their contracts to make sure

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Speaker 1: the ink is dry. But over the last starting in

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Speaker 1: wins first in points per game, first in point differential,

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Speaker 1: A lot of it's Josh Allen, maybe most of it's

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You can't go Mike McCarthy. His teams, like McDermott,

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Speaker 1: feel like they're not quite buttoned up. They shrink in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Can't go McCarthy. More of the same, Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 1: Jesse mentor great defensive coordinators, But we want to go

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Speaker 1: my opinion, Brian Dable one a playoff game with Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: next level. So Sean McDermott's got eight playoff wins. You

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Speaker 1: Buffalo it's different. Josh Allen changes the calculus. Here was

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Speaker 1: Josh broken down after the loss Saturday. That's extremely difficult.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I let my let

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Speaker 2: how it ended, and that's uh. It's gonna stick with

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Speaker 1: not more fun to watch. The Rams only had three

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Speaker 1: not losing games. And the team that lost the turnover

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Speaker 1: I thought, when all you needed to do was win

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, the upside, the jet fuel, the horsepower. I mean,

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Speaker 1: He has improved so much from week three to now.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, this is I think there's four quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. They're young, they're athletic, they're inexpensive at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: great Sunday night. They don't have nearly as much defensive talent,

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Speaker 3: There were so many things that went on in that

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Speaker 4: Tonight's not all night.

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Speaker 1: Mom.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this though.

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Speaker 3: For you guys to do what you did, Man, I

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Speaker 3: can't say enough about what you guys did. Sneph and

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Speaker 3: snepeut defensively, how about my mother?

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Speaker 1: Man, Kim Carl cam curl at safety. Listen, you look

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Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend, there's two or three

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Speaker 1: the ground. No penalties, no turnovers. More impressive is no

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Speaker 1: the road with an extra quarter played and one day

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Speaker 1: less rest than the Seahawks. They are and should be

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Speaker 1: Wow, it will. I'll tell you what. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks next. I mean, it is good. My takeaway

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Speaker 1: Hello days last oh ninety seconds. The Rams, though, you

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Speaker 1: In Stafford's face is like, you know, it's bright red.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a really impressive outing. The Bears

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Speaker 5: Did you feel like McVeigh called the game like he

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Speaker 5: was freezing because Colin at one point in the third

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Speaker 1: I did not understand. I love McVeigh, he's one of.

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Speaker 4: The best coaches in the league.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was his worst effort of the season.

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Speaker 1: He clearly changed it in the fourth quarter. Yeah, yes, absolutely. Listen,

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Speaker 1: have things that are working. They nobody can cover Puka.

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Speaker 1: just like sometimes there's just you know, when you get

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Speaker 1: Bears came right back down the field. They never buckled,

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Speaker 1: you know. It just came down to in overtime, Caleb

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Speaker 1: It's our two five minutes out from Matt Hasselback. He'll

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Speaker 1: And here we go on a Monday, Colin Wright, Colin wrong.

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Speaker 1: not just mistakes. It's the kind of mistake he's making

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Speaker 1: They're not all on him, but it's a bad throw

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Speaker 1: I didn't buy into the Matt Lafleur rumors. He was

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Speaker 1: I said, of the eight remaining teams, I thought Chicago.

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Speaker 1: totally impressed. When the Rams marched down the field, took

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. I said this before, is that sometimes when

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Speaker 1: You're looking for a great coach, not a really good coach.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a great coach. I think he's a really

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Speaker 7: I could just say this as a player who's been

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Speaker 4: Man, do you feel guilty?

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Speaker 7: Like you feel like, you know, you saw Josh Allen

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Speaker 7: I feel like I let my teammates down. I can

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Speaker 7: Now everybody in the building's probably gone, I mean they did.

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Speaker 7: When you lose a head coach, you flush out just

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Speaker 7: But Josh Allen, I think, you know, if he was

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the interception? I won't I

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Speaker 7: then you know, the Denver Broncos came out with it.

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Speaker 1: a lot of reps. I mean, I think Stidham's been

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Speaker 1: in the building. He knows the playbook. But to me,

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Speaker 1: this is a big ask. Is it not for Denver?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Listen, I mean I think bo Nix is unbelievably underrated,

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Speaker 7: you know, I really do. I think he's a very

431
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Speaker 7: good player. Two years in a row I thought he's

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Speaker 7: a great player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Jared Sidam though, if you remember, he was the guy

435
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Speaker 7: drafted out of Auburn, played at Baylor, then went to Auburn,

436
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Speaker 7: played a played at Auburn, and was drafted maybe to

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Speaker 7: be the heir apparent to Tom Brady. I mean, he

438
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Speaker 7: was kind of the guy going through and then they

439
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Speaker 7: pulled Cam Newton out of nowhere, you know, like late

440
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Speaker 7: in the year, and said, hey, maybe we can build it.

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Speaker 7: You know, they were craving running ability after years of

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Speaker 7: Tom Brady. I think they talked about like, oh, there

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Speaker 7: would be so much more Dama if we can have

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Speaker 7: a dual threat quarterback. But in a way like Stidham

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Speaker 7: did a little bit of that, you know in college.

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Speaker 7: I don't think he's Bonix, but he's he's also not

447
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Speaker 7: a statue.

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Speaker 4: Back there, uh no.

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Speaker 7: But I can also just say as a guy that, like,

450
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Speaker 7: you know, when you're a backup and you practice every

451
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Speaker 7: single day for years and years and years and years,

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Speaker 7: and you never get your opportunity.

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Speaker 4: This is what you're training for.

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Speaker 7: And sometimes as a backup quarterback, the feeling is this.

455
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Speaker 7: It's like you you study for like a final exam,

456
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Speaker 7: like maybe it's a paper, and you do all the

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Speaker 7: work all week and then Sunday comes and you give

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Speaker 7: it to the professor and the professor looks at it

459
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Speaker 7: and says, hey, I'm throwing it in the trash. Thanks

460
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Speaker 7: for preparing, but we didn't need you today. Thanks for

461
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Speaker 7: doing all that work. And it's years and years and years,

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Speaker 7: so now here it is. He knows that that final

463
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Speaker 7: exam that he's turning in, you know it's going to

464
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Speaker 7: get graded and it's going to be grated hard, and

465
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Speaker 7: the expectations are high and it's a tough opponent. But

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Speaker 7: the hope is that you're ready and you don't get exposed.

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Speaker 7: The hope is that you seize the opportunity and take

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Speaker 7: advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more team that's gone. We start art

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Speaker 1: with the Bills, Broncos, Bears. Then before we get to

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Speaker 1: the winning teams big picture, I did think and I

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Speaker 1: know people can glom onto the interceptions. I think Caleb

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Speaker 1: looks so much more comfortable now than six to eight

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think he's I think he like people

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Speaker 1: are saying, well, how come he doesn't run more? And

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Speaker 1: that may be because he's more comfortable and sees the

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Speaker 1: field better. I guess what it wrap your bowl a

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Speaker 1: bowl around Ben and Caleb after this game in the season,

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Speaker 1: where are you with the pair.

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Speaker 4: Night and day?

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Speaker 7: From last year? Caleb Williams Knight and Day like last

482
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Speaker 7: year like I didn't see it. I was like this guy,

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Speaker 7: I don't see it. I don't see success here, you know,

484
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Speaker 7: I just don't see it. And this year he's gotten

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Speaker 7: better each and every week. And I think one of

486
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Speaker 7: the best things you can say about quarterback development is

487
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Speaker 7: a team you're developing your quarterback, your young quarterback as

488
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Speaker 7: you're winning games. And that's what they did. They found

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Speaker 7: ways to win. They were the Cardiac Bears. No, this

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Speaker 7: is I think. I think you got to be so excited.

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Speaker 7: And I've said it like when you get the GM right,

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Speaker 7: the head coach right, and the quarterback right, you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of that triad, one heartbeat, one vision. We're all

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Speaker 7: together and we all got each other's back. That's what

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Speaker 7: Chicago has right now. Like I think Ben Johnson, I

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Speaker 7: don't know if I can overstate how much respect I

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Speaker 7: have for him as a leader and as a play caller,

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Speaker 7: and you know, all the stuff that he brings to

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Speaker 7: the table.

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Speaker 4: We knew he was a great play caller, Like we

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Speaker 4: knew that part.

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Speaker 7: But just like the leadership, in the steadiness that he's

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Speaker 7: brought to the sidelines, to the podium, to the franchise

504
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Speaker 7: and in lockstep with your GM, I think that's a

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Speaker 7: bigger reason I think a lot of these guys are

506
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Speaker 7: getting fired around the league is that they're saying, like, whoa,

507
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Speaker 7: look what this guy did in year one. We got

508
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Speaker 7: to find another Ben Johnson. I just don't know if

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Speaker 7: there's another Ben Johnson out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk rams. They only had three drives.

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Speaker 1: Here's what blew me away. No penalties, no turnovers, and Matt,

512
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Speaker 1: they didn't have a dropped pass to take a to

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Speaker 1: take a warm weather team to that environment, and again

514
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Speaker 1: it wasn't as spectacular as Chicago. They played about us

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Speaker 1: clean a game in crappy weather, as you I mean,

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Speaker 1: we watched the Texans Patriots that eight turnovers. I was

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Speaker 1: just kind of blown away by I know, it's not

518
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Speaker 1: a sexy turn the efficiency of the Rams they make

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Speaker 1: any mistakes your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: I think they're a great team number one. And you

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Speaker 7: talk about no penalties, I think you really shows up

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Speaker 7: how you practice, shows up how you play.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know.

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Speaker 7: I've played on teams where we let dbs get away

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Speaker 7: with defensive pass inter appearance and practice all the time,

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Speaker 7: and then we get to the game.

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Speaker 4: Then they throw the.

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Speaker 7: Flag and the dbs would be like, what are you

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Speaker 7: talking about. It's not a penalty, and we'd sit there

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Speaker 7: and as teammates would be like, yeah, it is a penalty.

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Speaker 7: And that's how you practice every single day. So like,

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Speaker 7: we're not surprised, you shouldn't be surprised either. So I

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Speaker 7: think the Rams practice well. I think they're really well coached.

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Speaker 7: And you mentioned no drop balls. There's a there's a

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Speaker 7: phrase in quarterback rooms. It's called KYP. Know your personnel.

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Speaker 7: And so when you're throwing a pass to a fullback,

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Speaker 7: a wide receiver, eligible offensive tackle, like whoever it is, KYP,

538
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Speaker 7: know the kind of throw that you can throw that guy.

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Speaker 7: There's a difference between throwing a ball to Puka and

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Speaker 7: then to a backup tight end like it's it's the

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Speaker 7: kind of throw you give the guy. And I think

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Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford is as good as they come that way,

543
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Speaker 7: He's next level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk Seattle. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's at the end of Pete Carroll's era. I'm sitting

546
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Speaker 1: here thinking, yeah, I just don't know what they are.

547
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Speaker 1: They're not even good on defense. Two years later, I'm like,

548
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Speaker 1: that's that's the fastest, longest, most dynamic roster in the sport.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing what you can do in this

550
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Speaker 1: league in short time. But I look at Seattle and

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Speaker 1: I I'm not sure where matt the weakness is. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you would I mean, you tell

553
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Speaker 1: me you the best event did you played against? How

554
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Speaker 1: do you attack Seattle?

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give that up, Colin.

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Speaker 7: I'm kind of rooting for him this week, so I

557
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Speaker 7: know what I would do, but I don't want to

558
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Speaker 7: give that up. But listen, you mentioned two years ago

559
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Speaker 7: they weren't good on defense. They were atrocious, And you

560
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Speaker 7: know there's there's a lot that went into saying goodbye

561
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Speaker 7: to Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 4: It's a big, big deal. It's kind of a business decision.

563
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Speaker 7: It's kind of a you know, kind of a global

564
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Speaker 7: like what are we going to be in the future decision.

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Speaker 7: They go out and hire the youngest head coach in football,

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Speaker 7: and you mentioned it. He's the defensive version of Sean

567
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Speaker 7: McVay and what he's done coming in setting kind of

568
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Speaker 7: like a new mentality. I think the biggest difference is this,

569
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Speaker 7: and this is what I think I was most impressed

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Speaker 7: with in the forty nine er game. Poise, Like that's

571
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Speaker 7: not something as great as those other Seahawks defenses were

572
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Speaker 7: and the offenses were. I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 7: seen the level of poise. The forty nine ers were

574
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Speaker 7: as chippy as I've ever seen a team beat. And guys,

575
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Speaker 7: they just took it. Witherspoon, Devin Witherspoon, great player, he

576
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 7: took it. JSN, he just takes it. And I just

577
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 7: think they're all about the mission, this mob mentality, mission

578
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Speaker 7: over any.

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Speaker 4: Bs, and that's what they are.

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 7: They are singularly focused on one thing, one mission, and

582
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Speaker 7: that's getting the win, and it's putting the team first.

583
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Speaker 7: And I just again, this is a guy that was

584
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 7: a great defensive play caller. We didn't know how he'd

585
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 7: be as a leader and a culture setter, and he's

586
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 7: been outstanding. Pair that with John Schneider and his free

587
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 7: agency and his draft picks, it's no surprise this team's

588
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 7: as good as they are.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that you're you're from that New England region,

590
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Speaker 1: I said earlier, having lived there for a decade. I said,

591
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of money in New England, but it's

592
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: never ostentatious. The people in that region appreciate smarts, discipline, efficiency.

593
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Speaker 1: They're kind of relentless. You know you're you're gonna you're

594
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Speaker 1: gonna rake your own leaves and get the snowblower out yourself.

595
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Speaker 1: And New England I always felt New England culture is

596
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. They didn't have the most dynamic roster, but

597
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: they were dynamic about twice a game on offense when

598
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Speaker 1: you needed them to be. I honestly watched this team.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Belichick brading teams is that

600
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Speaker 1: you end up looking up and thinking, oh, they beat

601
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: us again. They just make enough splashy plays to beat you.

602
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Speaker 1: But when I started snowing, I'm like, oh, God, they

603
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Speaker 1: love this. This is exactly built for new I think

604
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Speaker 1: they're better than people think they are.

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Speaker 7: Your thoughts, Yeah, I agree, And you know, I take

606
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Speaker 7: exception to the snowblower comment because I had my shovel

607
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 7: out today's shoveling. But now, listen, I think they're a

608
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 7: year ahead of where we all thought they would be.

609
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Speaker 5: You know.

610
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Speaker 4: They remind me a lot.

611
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Speaker 7: Of the Seahawks last year, you know, and there's just

612
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 7: sort of overachieving and they're playing great.

613
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Speaker 4: They spent their money on defense and did a great

614
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Speaker 4: job up front.

615
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 7: Christian Barmore's back, Milton Williams highest paid player in their team.

616
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 7: That front four creates a lot of opportunity for the

617
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 7: guys behind them. But they've got great cover guys and

618
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 7: Gonzo and Carlton Davis the third. But the real magic

619
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Speaker 7: is what they've done with Drake May. You know, like

620
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Speaker 7: my brother like five years has been like Drake May

621
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 7: is going to be as good as there is in

622
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: the game of football. And I think people were looking

623
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 7: at him like he was crazy even last year. But

624
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Speaker 7: Drake May, to me, has been one of the top

625
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 7: quarterbacks in the entire NFL. And there's still a lot

626
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 7: of room for improvement. That's that's what everyone's so fired

627
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 7: up about. So again, you get like kind of the triad,

628
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 7: Elliott Wolf, Mike Vrabel, you get the quarterback right, and

629
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Speaker 7: Josh McDaniels deserves a lot of credit. But like those

630
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: early great New England franchises, like those those championship teams,

631
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 7: the defense has kind of been leading the way while

632
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 7: the young quarterback develops.

633
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Speaker 4: At some point it's going to be all on this quarterback.

634
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: It's going to be all his team, and you know,

635
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 7: the best of the rest of the league better look out.

636
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Speaker 1: I want to pivot back finally, because the story of

637
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: the day is Sean McDermott, a very good coach has

638
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: been let go. Let's go back to that. So I

639
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: said I would not go with Jeff Hafley or Jesse Minterter.

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Speaker 1: They've never been head coaches. I'm not experimenting. Mike McCarthy's good,

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Speaker 1: but he feels a little Sean McDermott where you were

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Speaker 1: never quite buttoned up in the playoffs, people, older guy

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Speaker 1: people got a little frustrated. Brian Dable, however, has been

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Speaker 1: in the building offensive coach, very intense work with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: That feels like guys in the building. No, he's a

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Speaker 1: hard guy. He is built for that kind of intensity

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Speaker 1: and passion. Dable feels like a fit to me. Agree

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Speaker 1: or disagree? Yeah, well yeah, I agree. One quick thing.

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Speaker 7: Jeff Affley was a head coach as a college coach,

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Speaker 7: but again, I think he's a defensive guy. So I

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Speaker 7: agree with you wholeheartedly that the Buffalo Bills will most

652
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Speaker 7: likely be looking for an offensive head coach, somebody that's

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Speaker 7: going to fire up that fan base and quite honestly

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Speaker 7: maximize the potential of Josh Allen. And I will say this,

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen when he came out of college, the improvement

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Speaker 7: from him in college to what he did with day

657
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Speaker 7: Ball was absolutely incredible. He went from a guy that,

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Speaker 7: in my opinion, didn't have his eyes in the right

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Speaker 7: place as a young quarterback, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 7: he's one of the best quarterbacks I've ever seen in

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Speaker 7: my entire life at deciphering the blitz and getting the

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Speaker 7: blitz picked up and all that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 7: day Ball plus Josh Allen has proven to be a

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Speaker 7: successful thing. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it

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Speaker 7: ended up going that way. In fact, I would say

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Speaker 7: he's the leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 1: Would you be excited for a Seahawk Patriot super Bowl?

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Speaker 7: It'd be pretty cool. It'd be my old team against

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Speaker 7: my dad's old team. It'd be pretty awesome. I'd be

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Speaker 7: looking forward to that one. And quite honestly, like I

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Speaker 7: think if you say, like, what do you most likely

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Speaker 7: expect to happen? I think that's the most likely outcome.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't mean that the Rams can't get it done. We've

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Speaker 7: seen how those games have gone between Seattle in LA.

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Speaker 7: But I think if you're thinking just like the home

676
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Speaker 7: field advantage, who's hot right now, who's rested, all that

677
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Speaker 7: kind of stuff, I would I'd be kind of surprised.

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Speaker 4: If it didn't didn't go that way.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so Seattle gets an extra day of prep and

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Speaker 1: the Rams also played an overtime session, which is something.

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Speaker 1: It's another you know, fifteen twenty whatever snaps it.

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Speaker 7: Is, it's not nothing, and you know, like there's there's

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Speaker 7: also this idea of really knowing your opponent and playing

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Speaker 7: somebody three times, and there's there's like that's where I

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Speaker 7: really feel like coaching is more important than ever, Like

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Speaker 7: when it's a third matchup. Now we're really saying, okay,

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Speaker 7: who's got the better coaching staff in all three phases? Defense, offense,

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Speaker 7: And I think in this matchup, in particular, special teams

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Speaker 7: has been a huge factor.

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Speaker 1: Oh huge, big edge Seattle. For the record, we had

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Speaker 1: a graphic we can put it up again that our

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Speaker 1: staff put up how close the Rams and the Seahawks are.

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Speaker 1: And this will be the third matchup, and again it's

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Speaker 1: McVeigh against the defensive version of McVeigh. And one point

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Speaker 1: separates these two after two meetings. Like you're tak talking about,

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Speaker 1: they've scored the same they're I mean they really And

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Speaker 1: also Seattle doesn't miss on its first couple of picks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at this. Seattle scored fifty seven, the

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Speaker 1: Rams fifty eight. The yards are separated by a single yard.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were saying this earlier about week seven

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Speaker 1: or eight. Wasn't this kind of what we thought we'd

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Speaker 1: end up with as San Francisco was falling apart and

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Speaker 1: Philly couldn't find their offense.

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Speaker 7: Listen, I think these are the two best teams in football.

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Speaker 7: I've been saying it for a while, so like no

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Speaker 7: no offense to whoever in the AFC is representing in

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Speaker 7: the super Bowl. This is the super Bowl. To me,

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Speaker 7: these are the two best teams in football this year.

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Speaker 7: And you know, like you mentioned special teams, I'm curious

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Speaker 7: if the La Rams are even going to let Seattle

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Speaker 7: return a kick, like Rashid Shihed, are you just or

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Speaker 7: are you just gonna say, hey, you know what, We'll

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Speaker 7: we'll just give you the touchback. We'll just give it

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Speaker 7: to you. We'll just like here, you get the free yards.

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Speaker 7: We're just not going to give up a big one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, he returned a punt for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: against the Rams last time. Yeah, to your point, like

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Speaker 1: we don't want him to touch the ball period exactly.

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Speaker 7: And you do this like if you remember, like I

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Speaker 7: remember when I was playing, Devin Hester was that kind

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Speaker 7: of a guy. Josh Cribs, there were some guys it

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Speaker 7: was just like, you know what, we'll just give you

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Speaker 7: all the extra yardage. We just can't we can't have

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Speaker 7: you wreck the game. Steve Smith was that way, just

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Speaker 7: kick it out of bounce or just you know, we

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Speaker 7: need a touchback. We need a touchback. And I think

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Speaker 7: rashiitia Heat's been that kind of player for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff, Matt as All, thanks buddy, all right, see

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Speaker 1: you yeah, I mean I people are talking about scenarios.

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Speaker 1: If you got Seattle in New England, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's like New England's a little bit younger version

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Speaker 1: of the Great Brady Teams. I mean, Drake May's obviously younger.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of all I get Craft get I

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback younger, but I get the OC and

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Speaker 1: Brabels Belichick, just the more current version that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's the hurd