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Speaker 2: volume heavy Tuesday. Everybody hobal if you guys are having
Speaker 2: a great week. Well, we got another NBA trade last
Speaker 2: night as the Boston Celtics made their first big shakeup
Speaker 2: of this summer, sending Drew Holiday to the Portland Trailblazers
Speaker 2: for an exciting young lead guard and Anferny Simons as
Speaker 2: well as two second round picks. We're gonna be breaking
Speaker 2: that trade down from the perspective of both teams. Then
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Speaker 2: So in the deal, the Portland Trailblazers get Drew Holliday
Speaker 2: and the Boston Celtics get Anferny Simons as well as
Speaker 2: two second round picks. So Boston turns an older veteran
Speaker 2: role player into a younger lead guard. We all know
Speaker 2: who Drew Holliday is and what he's capable of and
Speaker 2: in the context of the current iteration of the Celtics,
Speaker 2: when fully healthy, he brings a ton of value and utility.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But the second that Jason Tatum went down the way
Speaker 2: that he did, it officially made all the sense in
Speaker 2: the world to look to move Drew Holliday for something
Speaker 2: more useful in the long run. My initial gut reaction
Speaker 2: when I saw the trade was wow, like, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. This instantly makes the Boston Celtics next
Speaker 2: year interesting in a way that they wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: if they would have made moves more in line with
Speaker 2: bringing in draft compensation or more theoretical talent. This is
Speaker 2: more of like a in one year, we're going to
Speaker 2: find out really quickly how well Anfernie Simon's Because Anthrony's
Speaker 2: right at the beginning of what you would consider to
Speaker 2: be the prime of his career in his mid twenties, right,
Speaker 2: You're gonna get to see really quickly how well he
Speaker 2: fits in the Boston system, in the Joe Mizula driving
Speaker 2: kickses them. It's a perfect test of a theory we
Speaker 2: haven't seen a lead guard in this system. That's not
Speaker 2: to say that Drew or Derek couldn't play with the
Speaker 2: ball in their hands. Derek White obviously ran a ton
Speaker 2: of action with Jayson Tatum as an excellent pull up
Speaker 2: three point shooter, a very good passer out of ball screens,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't really bring like all of the wiggle
Speaker 2: and downhill force that you get from an Anfernie Simons. Right,
Speaker 2: jew Holliday plays with a lot of power, does bring
Speaker 2: some downhill force, certainly can hit higher difficulty shots in
Speaker 2: ball screens and things like that, but he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the level of just wiggle and pull up shooting and
Speaker 2: stuff that Anthony Simons has. Anfernie brings a combination of
Speaker 2: downhill burst, shifty ball handling, and pull up shooting that
Speaker 2: neither of those guys had. So before we get to
Speaker 2: any of the specifics of Anfernie's game, I'm just excited
Speaker 2: to see this tweak in Joe Mizula's driving kick system,
Speaker 2: and he brings a very different style even than what
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum did. So in a year
Speaker 2: where Tatum is unavailable, where the Celtics don't have championship expectations,
Speaker 2: they can evaluate what it looks like to see this
Speaker 2: type of guard play in their system of matchup hunting,
Speaker 2: drive and kick basketball, modern four out spacing, big spacing
Speaker 2: above the break. All of those specific characteristics immediately makes
Speaker 2: the Celtics a very interesting watch next year. So a
Speaker 2: quick description of Anferny's game for those of you guys
Speaker 2: who haven't watched much of him over the years. He
Speaker 2: obviously spent the entire beginning of his career alongside Damian Lillard.
Speaker 2: This is something that stood out to me throughout watching
Speaker 2: a young Anthony in Portland. He plays esthetically a very
Speaker 2: similar style to Dame. He's a bigger, more upright player.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the level the overall level of first
Speaker 2: step quickness and athleticism that Dame had, but you can
Speaker 2: tell that they did a lot of workouts together. You
Speaker 2: can tell that Anthny idolized Dame, and by the way,
Speaker 2: he picked a great player to idolize. He's got a
Speaker 2: very quick and compact jump shot release that he can
Speaker 2: get to out of all of the same kind of
Speaker 2: footwork stuff that Dame uses, like hard pound dribble in
Speaker 2: and out to the right, step backs, going to the left,
Speaker 2: step backs, going both directions.
Speaker 3: The mid range pull ups.
Speaker 2: He's got all of the same kind of like footwork
Speaker 2: and off the dribble jump shooting combinations that Damian Lillard had.
Speaker 2: Again not to the same level of efficiency, but at
Speaker 2: least in terms of the aesthetics and the way that
Speaker 2: he gets to his shots very similar out of hesitation dribbles,
Speaker 2: out of dribble combinations from three and from the mid range.
Speaker 2: It's like watching a taller dame. It's legitimately crazy how
Speaker 2: similar their jump shot form and some of their body
Speaker 2: movements are. He has all of the shot making you
Speaker 2: need and pick and roll, pull up twos, pull up threes, floaters,
Speaker 2: he can get to the rim, he can make basic
Speaker 2: passing reads in pick and roll. He's not some surgical
Speaker 2: playmaker by any strike the imagination, but he can make
Speaker 2: the reads that you need to run an NBA offense.
Speaker 2: His weakness, and this is in all likelihood why Portland
Speaker 2: is moving on from him, is that he isn't particularly
Speaker 2: great at any of those specific things within the lead
Speaker 2: guard archetype. Like he's a good three point shooter off
Speaker 2: the catch, but he's not a great three point shooter
Speaker 2: off the catch. He's a decent pull up shooter forty
Speaker 2: seven percent on pull up twos last year thirty five
Speaker 2: percent on pull threes. It's also worth mentioning he did
Speaker 2: go down year over year as a shooter, but the
Speaker 2: previous year he spent the majority of the year playing
Speaker 2: alongside Damian Lillard catching lesser primitive defenders, So I do
Speaker 2: think that those two things are related in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. But again, he's a good pull up shooter.
Speaker 2: He actually got up over a point per shot, but
Speaker 2: he's not like some deadly efficient pull up shooter like
Speaker 2: you see at the top guys in the league. Right
Speaker 2: He's okay on floaters, he's forty percent, but that's not
Speaker 2: the super high level floater shooter that you see around
Speaker 2: the league, guys like Tydrome, Tyree s Haliburton that are
Speaker 2: shooting over fifty on floaters. He's a decent driver of
Speaker 2: the basketball. He's particularly good at beating slower footed bigs
Speaker 2: and switches, which I think will be uniquely valuable in
Speaker 2: Boston's system. But he's not an elite driver of the
Speaker 2: basketball that like shreds defenses. He logs about nine drives
Speaker 2: per game. For perspective, Shay Gilges, Alexander twenty one, Brunson eighteen,
Speaker 2: Trey Young seventeen. He's just not a great driver of
Speaker 2: the basketball the way that those guys are. He's a
Speaker 2: decent passer at a pick and roll in ISO, but
Speaker 2: he's not a super high level playmaker. And then he's
Speaker 2: got a couple of areas where he's kind of weak. Right,
Speaker 2: He's very poor finisher at the rim, just fifty four
Speaker 2: percent overall, just fifty two percent on layups. He does
Speaker 2: have a little bit more vertical pop than you'd probably think,
Speaker 2: and he'll occasionally get up and throw one down, but
Speaker 2: that's not rim finishing is not a strength of his,
Speaker 2: and he is not a good defensive player, although he
Speaker 2: did average a career high and steels last year. The
Speaker 2: Portland Trailblazers towards the tail end of the season took
Speaker 2: on more of a defensive identity, you know, behind guys
Speaker 2: like Tamani Kamara, Robert Williams, Matist Thaibel and by the way,
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday's going to be very interesting in that regard
Speaker 2: if they do decide to keep him. But and Anthrony
Speaker 2: did force more turnovers within that context, but that's not
Speaker 2: exactly what you would consider to be a.
Speaker 3: Strength for him.
Speaker 2: The reason why I like this move for Boston has
Speaker 2: to do with their culture, has to do with the
Speaker 2: brand of basketball that they're playing Anferny's flaws, all those
Speaker 2: things that I just went over are what made him
Speaker 2: inexpensive to get in a trade. He's doing extension soon. Obviously,
Speaker 2: whether or not that extension meets a certain threshold is
Speaker 2: going to be a big part of whether or not
Speaker 2: this makes sense for Boston. But they could also turn
Speaker 2: around and flip him. If he goes in there this
Speaker 2: year and you know, you set him up properly and
Speaker 2: in the Boston system and it just continues to be underwhelming,
Speaker 2: they can turn around and flip him. They can turn
Speaker 2: around and move him in a different direction. And so
Speaker 2: obviously there's a forward thinking element to this in terms
Speaker 2: of asset management. What they do they retain him, if
Speaker 2: they do, what do they retain him on? In terms
Speaker 2: of an extension, if they move him, what do they
Speaker 2: get in return? That is going to be the kind
Speaker 2: of like swing factor in this deal. But you know
Speaker 2: that's on Brad Stevens to figure out. In the short term,
Speaker 2: you gave yourself an opportunity to see what Anthony Zimons
Speaker 2: looks like in this system. Boston is one of the
Speaker 2: best teams in the league at creating space for drivers
Speaker 2: of the basketball. Some of the little things that they
Speaker 2: do in terms of like spacing bigs above the break
Speaker 2: to create a different sort of help defense situation. So
Speaker 2: instead of there being a big waiting at the rim,
Speaker 2: the big is out dealing with you know, Porzingis or
Speaker 2: Horford above the break, and now you have a small guard,
Speaker 2: someone like it Derek White, someone like a Peyton Pritchard,
Speaker 2: someone like a Sam Hauser, sometimes drifting into the dunker spot,
Speaker 2: so that the help defender the guy guarding that guy
Speaker 2: as a smaller player that's contesting at the rim. They
Speaker 2: move without the ball, they're constantly cycling through. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of things that Boston does to create really open
Speaker 2: areas on the floor. Four guys like anfernit to go
Speaker 2: to work. Now, obviously it remains to be seen whether
Speaker 2: or not some of those guys get moved, So like
Speaker 2: if you know, they don't bring Horford back and then
Speaker 2: they trade Porzingis, then yeah, it's going to potentially have
Speaker 2: an impact on their spacing. But even in that context,
Speaker 2: dating back to twenty twenty two when they were playing
Speaker 2: some of these non shooting bigs like Robert Williams. They
Speaker 2: are capable of generating space and I think that that's
Speaker 2: a very interesting spot for Anferni to be in. He's
Speaker 2: also going to be surround with more like dribbles shoot
Speaker 2: pass talent than he was surrounded by in Portland. He's
Speaker 2: going to be in lineups where Jalen Brown's on the floor,
Speaker 2: where Derek White's on the floor, where Houser's on the floor,
Speaker 2: where Pritchard's on the floor, or Baylor Shireman's on the floor.
Speaker 2: He's going to be in situations where he is getting
Speaker 2: the ball in advantages and he's creating advantages for his
Speaker 2: teammates in that drive and kick system. It's an awesome
Speaker 2: opportunity for us to see just a different guy now,
Speaker 2: like we talked about, because their guards weren't this type
Speaker 2: of guard, and because Tatum and Brown are these big
Speaker 2: matchup attacking forwards that, as we've talked about over the years,
Speaker 2: can sometimes settle forts and struggle to beat their man
Speaker 2: at the point of attack. I'm interested to see if
Speaker 2: this Boston offense is a bit more resilient, with more
Speaker 2: of a lead guard that they can go to to
Speaker 2: get dribble penetration to start the engine when things get
Speaker 2: kind of stagnant. Anthony gets up into that high hesitation
Speaker 2: dribble and he will pressure those gaps and he will
Speaker 2: get into the teeth of the defense. And so there
Speaker 2: is a different look there that I think will be
Speaker 2: really interesting. I like the move. It makes Boston a
Speaker 2: more interesting watch this year. It's kind of like an
Speaker 2: opportunity to get a different look at the Celtics offense
Speaker 2: with a different archetype of player. And then one of
Speaker 2: two things will happen. Either Brad Stevens will move him
Speaker 2: for asset return to help Tatum and Brown when Tatum
Speaker 2: gets back from his injury, or it'll be like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this works. Now, let's talk about what we're gonna look
Speaker 2: like in the future in a system that involves both
Speaker 2: Anthony Simon's and Jason Tatum and potentially Jalen Brown as well.
Speaker 2: It is an awesome opportunity to run an experiment and
Speaker 2: see what this player looks like in the most advanced
Speaker 2: driving kick system that we have in the NBA right now.
Speaker 3: I'm very, very excited to watch.
Speaker 2: It on the Portland front, I would assume this is
Speaker 2: about opening up some ball handling responsibility, about opening up
Speaker 2: a starting spot. Scoot Henderson has done a lot of
Speaker 2: coming off the bench since he's been drafted. This is
Speaker 2: a situation that should open up more lead ball handling
Speaker 2: responsibility for him, more ball handling opportunities for guys like
Speaker 2: Denny Avdio showed some off the dribble pop towards the
Speaker 2: tail end of the season. I'm just wondering whether or
Speaker 2: not they have any plans to actually use Drew Holliday
Speaker 2: in the short term, or if they intend to flip it.
Speaker 2: I feel like Drew is most valuable on a roster
Speaker 2: that is championship capable, where he can push a team
Speaker 2: over the top, and that's not really what Portland is.
Speaker 2: But there is kind of this growing feisty defensive attitude
Speaker 2: that Portland took on towards the second half of the
Speaker 2: season or so as they started to rack up a
Speaker 2: few more impressive wins than usual, a couple of those
Speaker 2: like two week streaks where we're like, oh man, some
Speaker 2: people this is interesting, right, Like Timani Kamara coming around
Speaker 2: as one of the better young wing defenders in the league.
Speaker 2: Robert Williams when he's healthy, is still a very really
Speaker 2: impactful switching big and rim protecting big matist. Steibel has
Speaker 2: been one of the better defensive wings in the league
Speaker 2: for a long time. Drew Hollidays should fit into that
Speaker 2: context extremely well in terms of helping them. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't help them get to what their ultimate goals are.
Speaker 2: And so that's why, you know, I kind of would
Speaker 2: have preferred to see Drew go to more of a
Speaker 2: contending team, but it'll be an interesting kind of influx
Speaker 2: of defensive culture for that roster. All Right, Jackson, So
Speaker 2: you've had about a little over twelve hours to think
Speaker 2: about this deal. As a Celtics fan, where are you
Speaker 2: at with Anthony Simon's becoming a Celtic?
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a really fun flyer. There's
Speaker 1: they haven't had a player like this in a while.
Speaker 1: It We'll see what else they do this summer. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think this is the last MOVI for the
Speaker 1: Celtics this summer, but it certainly is a fun bridge
Speaker 1: option where if it really hits in a way that
Speaker 1: maybe even higher than I'm expecting, then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden in an East with all these injuries, like maybe
Speaker 1: the Celtics are actually way more competitive than we may
Speaker 1: have thought after the Tatum injury, and if it doesn't hit,
Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, that's kind of what we were expecting. Anyways,
Speaker 1: It's sort of this sort of middle to middle down
Speaker 1: year for Boston. The contract situation is has some upsides
Speaker 1: and has some downsides. I mean, the fact that it's
Speaker 1: expiring makes definitely an a tradable piece potentially at the
Speaker 1: deadline if he's playing well and the Celtics don't want
Speaker 1: to be competitive or don't want to be as competitive.
Speaker 1: If he really plays well, though, I would be curious
Speaker 1: what number they're comfortable ex sending him at, you know, like,
Speaker 1: if it really hits, which there's they're gonna need offense,
Speaker 1: and so it's certainly possible that he averages twenty four
Speaker 1: points a game or something like that. I think that's
Speaker 1: definitely within the realm of possibility. And if that happens,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what number you're comfortable signing him at,
Speaker 1: considering he's not a plus defensive player and Missoula Ball.
Speaker 1: While it's sort of most people think about it offensively
Speaker 1: and it is. It's also a lot of we want
Speaker 1: all of our players to be two way players, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's the one one of
Speaker 1: the question marks I think, but overall just zooming out.
Speaker 3: I really like it for Boston.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little weird for Portland, but you know,
Speaker 1: they want to be a great defensive team and this
Speaker 1: is going to help with that.
Speaker 3: So I get that, Yeah, the big key is going
Speaker 3: to be just how good he is right away?
Speaker 2: Like this is this a oh an underutilized lead guard
Speaker 2: playing in clunky spacing on a defensive mind, it's set
Speaker 2: a role player, a core for a you know, kind
Speaker 2: of an inexperienced, relatively new head coach that hasn't had
Speaker 2: any success yet in the NBA Like this is that
Speaker 2: what's going on here? Or is Infnymonds just not that
Speaker 2: level of guard? And we are going to find out.
Speaker 2: I can I feel like in that Eastern Conference, which
Speaker 2: is pretty open and alongside that group, like again, like
Speaker 2: they're gonna make some moves this year, but like you
Speaker 2: can count on Cornette being there, you can count on
Speaker 2: Jaln Brown being there, most likely Pet Peyton, Pritchard, Sam
Speaker 2: Houser Derek White, Like there's they're gonna be still a
Speaker 2: good core of Celtics role players around him in a
Speaker 2: system where these dudes have been playing this style for
Speaker 2: a long time. And like, to me, I think the
Speaker 2: indicator will be like the scoring plus the efficiency, Like
Speaker 2: if they're if they're sitting at the All Star break
Speaker 2: and he's at like sixty two percent true shooting because
Speaker 2: he's been hitting forty percent of his pull up threes,
Speaker 2: and like his drives have gone up from nine to
Speaker 2: like thirteen per game because they're just creating more space
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, like it's just coming together
Speaker 2: in a way that that is where I think you
Speaker 2: start to look at it like, oh, we are actualizing
Speaker 2: this player, and now he makes sense in this context.
Speaker 2: And I think, honestly, to your point about the East
Speaker 2: being open, that might literally be the best case scenario
Speaker 2: if you could get like two playoff rounds out of
Speaker 2: Anferny and kind of see him in that setting in
Speaker 2: that context, I think that could be super interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think the.
Speaker 1: He's immediately the second most skilled offensive player on the roster.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Derek White a lot, but he's
Speaker 1: his overall value is in part because he's a two
Speaker 1: way player. I think Anthonie Simons is immediately the second
Speaker 1: best offensive player and and that's a little strange, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's a unique context to go into a team
Speaker 1: that was so it felt like perfectly built, and now
Speaker 1: you have to just reach fool obviously after the Tatum injury.
Speaker 1: But I think this is as good of a pivot
Speaker 1: as you could make consider in the short term. It's
Speaker 1: it's not what I was expecting to Drew Holliday deal.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that I was expecting a Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks get a first round, hopefully get it. Like there
Speaker 1: was some mixed reporting whether that it was going to
Speaker 1: be the Celtish need to give up assets to get
Speaker 1: off of that contract, or is the value good enough
Speaker 1: we can get assets back. It was sort of mixed
Speaker 1: reporting in that sense. I wasn't really sure what his
Speaker 1: value was, and I was definitely not expecting a young
Speaker 1: player in return. I was expecting picks really or a
Speaker 1: young player, like a young player who's you know, developed
Speaker 1: enough at this point. Maybe it would have been a
Speaker 1: young flyer or something. But I think it's fun and
Speaker 1: I think that you could talk yourself into a lot
Speaker 1: of different outcomes considering how unstable the Weak feel the
Speaker 1: East unstable the East fields Right.
Speaker 2: Now, the usage piece is the interesting part. Like to
Speaker 2: your point, I thought that we would see a couple
Speaker 2: of different types of moves from Boston this year in
Speaker 2: terms of bringing in younger role player talent, draft compensation,
Speaker 2: things that would allow Brad to effectively pivot around Tatum
Speaker 2: and Brown next year. That's that's what I was expecting too,
Speaker 2: And like, it's just that that's what I met when
Speaker 2: I said, like, oh, Boston became so much more interesting.
Speaker 2: Anferny can come in and be high usage. Like I'm
Speaker 2: not now whether or not it ends up being consistent
Speaker 2: will be the key, but like you will have games
Speaker 2: next year where Anferny drops thirty five and lights the
Speaker 2: lights the TV garden on fire, and everyone's like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, look at that. Like he will have awesome,
Speaker 2: high scoring, massive games, like he had that famous game
Speaker 2: winner driving pass Russell Westbrook this year against Denver. Like
Speaker 2: he is a guy that has real upside. It's hasn't
Speaker 2: come to fruition over the course of his career. But
Speaker 2: I kind of like this like Bill Simmons used to
Speaker 2: talk about this on his show all the time, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of an interesting concept.
Speaker 3: It's likely lottery flyers.
Speaker 2: So like people who were picked in the lottery that
Speaker 2: struggled in their first destination. That maybe you just think, oh,
Speaker 2: we get him into a new kind of setting, and
Speaker 2: this is a guy with some real I agree with,
Speaker 2: some real talent, maybe we can get it out of him.
Speaker 2: This is kind of like a different version of that.
Speaker 2: It's more like in that after that second contract where
Speaker 2: it's like he's much more established. But it's a similar
Speaker 2: idea where it's like we've only seen this guy in
Speaker 2: one construct. It's generally been a losing construct the entire
Speaker 2: time he's been there. We've seen him on super offensive
Speaker 2: minded rosters where he's put up big numbers but they
Speaker 2: can't win. Now we've seen him on defensive minded rosters
Speaker 2: or his efficiency tanks, but like they were you know,
Speaker 2: over five hundred there for a big chunk of the season.
Speaker 2: So like it's it's kind of it's just an experiment.
Speaker 2: It's an experiment. And like in terms of the the
Speaker 2: compensation piece to your point, like Drew Holliday was going
Speaker 2: to get you something he wasn't going to get you
Speaker 2: a haul, you know, you weren't gonna get three firsts,
Speaker 2: or like a really really good, interesting young player. Like
Speaker 2: to turn Drew Holiday, an expensive, older veteran player, into
Speaker 2: a mid twenties dude that you can decide what you
Speaker 2: want to do with next to me, is like a
Speaker 2: really smart pivot that makes you more interesting. And it's
Speaker 2: like a legitimate opportunity to like experiment for Boston's future,
Speaker 2: because again, they were going to need to pivot. They
Speaker 2: weren't going to be able to just bring everybody back
Speaker 2: next year. Horford would have been too old, Porzingis would
Speaker 2: have been too old, Drew Holiday would have been too old.
Speaker 2: You've got to start experimenting with this right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So I think in that context it definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1: And also being able to get not that I'm banging
Speaker 1: the drum for the value of second round picks or anything,
Speaker 1: but Portland is trying to be competitive. The West is loaded.
Speaker 1: I would frankly be surprised if they even made the plan.
Speaker 1: Maybe they sneak into a nine or ten spot so
Speaker 1: if they missed the playoffs, that that second round pick
Speaker 1: could be picked thirty eight or something, which is not,
Speaker 1: you know, crazy valuable, but you get two of them
Speaker 1: from Portland which are decent dart throws or decent little
Speaker 1: asset you know, fillers.
Speaker 3: You can throw in some other deals.
Speaker 1: So overall, I think value wise, I'm happy with it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a real it's a way to make
Speaker 1: the team a lot more. I was really kind of
Speaker 1: expecting a complete sort of dump of a year, like
Speaker 1: a of a year, and it's definitely not going to
Speaker 1: be that. With a move like this, You're not you're
Speaker 1: certainly not saying we're punting on the season. You're trying
Speaker 1: to like, let's try it, Let's see if we can
Speaker 1: be fun and competitive, especially in a down East.
Speaker 2: And Jalen Brown is going to be attacking this offseason,
Speaker 2: preparing for his first full season as a lead ball handler.
Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Brown is going to come in in
Speaker 2: great shape. He's going to dictate most likely the best
Speaker 2: perimeter defender on most nights, which will help put Inferny
Speaker 2: back into a situation like he was in with Dame.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like inverted stuff he can do
Speaker 2: with Jalen. I'm just excited I'm excited for open like
Speaker 2: the opening week, and like seeing what the Celtics team
Speaker 2: looks like.
Speaker 3: And I just didn't think that was going to be
Speaker 3: the case.
Speaker 2: When Tatum went down to to heat the way that
Speaker 2: he did, It'll be really weird.
Speaker 1: I still have no idea, you know, they got a
Speaker 1: lot of moves to make. I think what the front
Speaker 1: court is going to look like, No idea what the
Speaker 1: front court is going to look like. But Drew, Sorry,
Speaker 1: Derek White, Anthony Simon's and Jalen Brown is a very
Speaker 1: fun sort of trio going into going into the next season.
Speaker 3: I think from a back closing stand, totally agree, totally agree.
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