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Speaker 1: let's get to the results, shall we. So in your

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Speaker 1: main event, in your main event, that's, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the UFC two eighty three took place at the I'm

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Speaker 1: sure my pronunciation is going to be terrible. Jaunse Arena

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Speaker 1: in Rio Degenio, Rio Degenario, Brazil. And in your main

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Speaker 1: event in the light heavyweight division, Jamal Hill defeats Glover

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Speaker 1: to share a fifty to forty four on all three

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Speaker 1: judges scorecards. Jamal Hill is now your UFC light Heavyweight Champion.

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Speaker 1: Um he kicked Glover's ass. They're really yeah, man, and

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Speaker 1: this was not close. There were moments of inspired actually

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Speaker 1: to Chera, who, by the way, retired tonight in the cage.

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Speaker 1: He's not the only guy who retired in the cage,

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Speaker 1: sugar Hula either tonight or certainly on Monday Show. But

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Speaker 1: he retired. I think it's a good idea. He's my age.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just look at me. Can you imagine going

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Speaker 1: sure how old Jamal Hill as? How old is Jamal Hill?

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Speaker 1: He is thirty one? Yeah, I mean, you know it's

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Speaker 1: it's time. But he got his ass kicked. I don't

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Speaker 1: I wish I not to be against Jamal Hill, but

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Speaker 1: I think there's a couple of guys in the game

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Speaker 1: of people were like, it'd just be nice if something

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Speaker 1: good happened to them. It'd be nice if Shogun could

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Speaker 1: hope for him. He's a figure of adoration in the sport.

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Speaker 1: But it just wasn't to be the MM. They don't

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Speaker 1: fucking goes. When it's time to go. And it's true

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Speaker 1: Glover who was not in that case, Glover did not

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Speaker 1: losing end of a battle. But the relentlessness with which

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Speaker 1: But even then Jamal was really able, in large part

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Speaker 1: single legs, double eggs, body locks. Glover just really couldn't

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Speaker 1: Hill landed two hundred and thirty two Glover to Shira

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Speaker 1: hold Glover four again, and this is also pressing against

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Speaker 1: But again Hill had won forty two in that round

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Speaker 1: career where he pushed through all of these other guys

427
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: that I think a lot of us. I mean, I

428
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: wasn't sure who he was gonna beat when he was

429
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: on that run through the Krilovs and the Smiths and

430
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: everybody else, and he took some tough shots against all

431
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: those guys and nearly got hurt a But I mean

432
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith was dealing on him in the first round

433
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: when they fought, and yet still found a way to

434
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: come back and then capture a title in his forties.

435
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: He is a mark of not just a marker I

436
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: should say, not merely perseverance and delayed gratification, but in

437
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: he's just sort of a really great reminder that in MMA,

438
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: some guys burst early. You know, some guys never burst

439
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: at all. Some guys are have long reigns of dominance,

440
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: and some guys don't quite get it until it's just

441
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: at the very end window and they actually grab it.

442
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: They grab it when statistically speaking, they should not be

443
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: able to then when the game should have passed them by.

444
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: He was always, always, always, always a student of the game,

445
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: and I think that constant investment in technical improvement, constant

446
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: investment in specificity sharpening skills, staying in the gym, just

447
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: making it a habit of his life and living that way.

448
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: He lives a simple life in Connecticut, right You saw

449
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: his house on some of these shoulder programming work that

450
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: UFC has put out. He doesn't live ostentatiously. He lives comfortably,

451
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: but not ostentatiously, and he has just made it in

452
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: the most blue collar way of putting together skills very

453
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: slowly over time. And there's always this expression, right, the

454
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: wheels of justice grind slowly, They ground slowly for him.

455
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: But sure enough, it worked, it worked. He could not

456
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: get the storybook ending in mma, dude, just it doesn't

457
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: like you know, when Saint Pierre comes back from five

458
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: year absences and he captures the Middway title against Michael

459
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Bisping and then ultimately calls it a day. Yeah, that

460
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: is a sort of a story book ending in its

461
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: own way. But like, dude, like the only guys who

462
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: can do that are like the Saint Pierre's, right, I mean,

463
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: the Saint Pierre's or or you know, Demitrius Johnson is

464
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: doing really well and one he's still obviously very viable

465
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: as a champion, but you know what I mean, like

466
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: the guys and Habib winning and then just calling it

467
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: a day, just calling it a fucking day. Other than that,

468
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: the exit from the game is brutal. It's just brutal.

469
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna go out there on your hands and knees.

470
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: And obviously a guy like Lover today didn't do that literally,

471
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: but metaphorically that was terrible. They I'm not even sure

472
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: they needed a fifth round in that fight. You knew

473
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna stop it unless the doctor really stopped it,

474
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: and the doctor didn't. And if it's his last fight,

475
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cry about sending him back out there,

476
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 1: even though he just took a shit little of abuse.

477
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: But if it's really the way he hangs it up,

478
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 1: then yeah, yeah, I guess you do sending back out there,

479
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: and hello, it's a title fight. But I just really

480
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: hope that a lot of folks, you can learn a

481
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: lot of lessons from the career of Glover to share.

482
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: You can learn a lot of lessons from what it

483
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: means to like, you know, I'll never give up? Like

484
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Never give up? Like? Like, how

485
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: does how does one do that amidst setback after setback?

486
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: It's easy to say, but the psychological and you know,

487
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: social weight of it all it breaks the best of us.

488
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: And Glover just never cared about that. He just never

489
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: cared about that. He just cared about I'm gonna I

490
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: love doing this. I'm just going to slowly get better

491
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: and when the timing is right, boom. He made a

492
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: push and got a belt and it's a credit to

493
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: his career, it's a credit to his character. And tonight

494
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: wasn't his night. Night was the night of Jamal Hill.

495
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: But uh, you're you know, you're not gonna see many

496
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: guys push through late and get belts. Obviously, you know,

497
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: the higher of what you go, it becomes a little

498
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: bit more likely. Even in this division, we've seen other

499
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: guys get it. Katore I was getting it quite late

500
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: as well as the heavyweight belt as well. But you know,

501
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: these are very, very outlier type guys, and that's the

502
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of company I think. You know, they didn't have

503
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: identical careers, but that's the kind of company that a

504
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: guy like lover keeps in my mind, truly a joy

505
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: to cover his career, truly never got in trouble, never

506
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: talk shit about people. You never saw his name on

507
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: a police blodder. You just never saw him doing stupid things.

508
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: He lives a very just ordinary life and he's happy

509
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 1: about it and he does extraordinary things with it. So

510
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Jamal Hill. I don't know

511
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: when these people plan to have him out next. I

512
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: don't know how long it's gonna take for him to recover.

513
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: But I understood his rage in his post fight interview

514
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: with Daniel Cormier being like, what are you gonna say? Now? Yeah?

515
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Fair enough man, fair enough. I underestimated him. He proved

516
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: us all wrong. For if you if you were like me,

517
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: he proved you wrong. You know, all right, let's go

518
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: to this co main event if we can. Uh, Brandon

519
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Moreno defeating Devison Figuredo via TKO doctor stoppage basically after

520
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: the third they go. The third round finishes, and they

521
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: go back to their corners and the doctor inspects his eye.

522
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: It was I believe his right eye that of Figuredo,

523
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: and he couldn't see out of it. And then that

524
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: was it. That was the long story short Brandon, Marie,

525
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what they look. Let's let's go through

526
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: the record here, shall we. For Brandon Moreno, So he

527
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: fights Devison Figuredo UFC two fifty six. It's a draw, right, okay.

528
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: Then he submits him the second time, lost farre and square.

529
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: The third time I fought thought, then comes out and

530
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: beats him the tonight. Right. So he's got two wins,

531
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: one loss, and one draw. And I would argue that

532
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: that draw. Some people will have argued that that should

533
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: have gone to Moreno. I think a part of it

534
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: was didn't he get there was the groin strike, so

535
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: he lost points on it. Otherwise he might have won.

536
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I believe that's right. No, the Figuredo was debducted the point.

537
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: In any case, two wins, one loss, one draw. As

538
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, the rivalry is over. And Figaredo

539
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: said after the fight he's going to be going up

540
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: to one thirty five. I gotta tell you he's one

541
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: thirty five or wants to be one thirty five, and

542
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: he's thirty five years of age. That's a tough transition.

543
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: You know. Good luck, you got umar numbergetmade off. You've

544
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: got Cheeto Veras San Haagen's, You've got Ricky Simones. You've

545
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: got I mean you Morob Dewaalash Wheelies. I mean you've

546
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: got a murderers fucking row in that division at thirty

547
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: five years of age. I'm you know, one only knows

548
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: what will happen. I don't like his chances. I'll just

549
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: be very honest about That's that's not a great place

550
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: to be at thirty five years of age, especially coming

551
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: up from flyweight. Although I do think that the lack

552
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,239
Speaker 1: of a weight cut will be better for him. But

553
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: what was the story of this fight? Number One, I

554
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: think the rivalry is over for all the reasons aforementioned.

555
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: But two, like Moreno's just better. He was like way

556
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: better tonight. Now. I thought Figuredo in the third fight

557
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: had made the better adjustments, not scrambling with the guy

558
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: too much, keeping him at range, not letting them blitz,

559
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: not letting them flurry, just really kind of slowing everything down,

560
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: letting Moreno make mistakes. But what they figured out this

561
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: time was right, if Figuredo's gonna take a back seat,

562
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: so to speak, into this fight and kind of let

563
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: Moreno rage out, well, then yeah, Figuredo's gonna win. But

564
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: if Figuredo goes back to that game plan where he's

565
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: trying to take in a bit of a back seat,

566
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: so to speak, slowing the fight down, whynot, you're just

567
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: allowing actually Moreno to now take the lead, which he

568
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: did with a couple of different weapons. I thought this

569
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: was really interesting for me here, So what did I

570
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: take from it? First of all, you got takedown off

571
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the top. We have talked about this a number of times,

572
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: takedowns off the top, and again they work to varying degrees.

573
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: They work based on everything else you do. They work

574
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: based on the opponent. They work better or worse depending

575
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: on the weight class. But getting a takedown right off

576
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: of the top, I thought, it's set the tone right

577
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: away offensively to an extent, it can drain the opponent

578
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: right where we go back to Habib versus McGregor round one.

579
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: People will say what they want to say about it.

580
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: Habi won that round, but they're like, well, Connor resisted

581
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: everything right, but Habib was just draining him. Habib was

582
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: just draining him, forcing him to work, forcing him to work.

583
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: You didn't get as much of that this time. I

584
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: don't think the requisite control time early. But you know,

585
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: offensively setting the tone so one, he was able to

586
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: get takedowns in very well timed scenarios and in other

587
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: situations you know, able to do some good top control

588
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: damage with it. The big thing, though, was the right

589
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: hand of Moreno, and the right hand was landing a

590
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: couple of different ways. One just based on pure speed.

591
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: FIGUREDO hangs his lead hand real low. He's not like this,

592
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: and he's not even really like here with his eyes

593
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: above his gloves or like you know, whatever. His hand

594
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: is real low down here he's doing one Actually, excuse me,

595
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: he's doing one of these numbers right with his hand

596
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: down low. And so with that hand low, if you

597
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: believe you have a speed advantage and you can cover

598
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: distance and Moreno already likes to blitz anyway. He was

599
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: popping them with that overhand right, constantly, constantly popping him

600
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: with the overhand right, with that lead low hand. The

601
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: other thing he was doing was then slipping the punch.

602
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: By the way you saw Dravonte Davis do this to

603
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Hector Luis Garcia. It is one of my favorite punches.

604
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Here comes the jab, you slip the jab, the jab

605
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: goes by, you go to the body right and then

606
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: right overhand, and he was crushing him with that. So

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: he was able to take the lead from an offensive

608
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: wrestling standpoint. He was able to take the lead from

609
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: if not so much positioning all the time, certainly with

610
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: getting off first right, just being the guy who goes first,

611
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: using speed to your advantage, which he did using so

612
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: going first to your advantage, combining that with speed to

613
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: your advantage, mixing up as you draw reactions to then

614
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: go back to those same weapons. Because they had the

615
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: same defensive liabilities, but then using different setups and then

616
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: beginning to pile things on top of it. It was

617
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: just incredible. And then it leads us to this third

618
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: round where I had Moreno winning the first one cleanly.

619
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: I had Marino winning the second one cleanly. It turns

620
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: out the judges all gave Figgy the second round. We'll

621
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: talk about that in a second. And then the third

622
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: round I thought Marino had won. But what does he do.

623
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: He throws this gazelle punch where he kind of fakes

624
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: low and then leaps out like this. If you guys

625
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know, look up Marvin Hagler. Marvin Hagler is famous

626
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: for something called the gazelle punch. This isn't quite that,

627
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: but it's a similar kind of idea. Although he would

628
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Hagler was better about using it, as guy's moved into

629
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: it at times. But in any case, he goes it

630
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: low and then leaps and then lands this left. Now

631
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: my knuckles are all beat up, but he doesn't land

632
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: the left like knuckles to here's my phone. He doesn't

633
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: land it like so imagine this this black surface here

634
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: which is my phone, is the side of Figuredo's head.

635
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: The punch doesn't land flush with the knuckles on the face.

636
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: It almost lands to the side like that right where

637
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the side of the hand. Uh you know, do you

638
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: guys ever see South Park where they make fun of

639
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: j Low and the guy does the talking with a hand.

640
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: It's almost like that part of the hand kind of

641
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: just went to the side of the face a figure Garedo.

642
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: But the hand, the left hand of Moreno, was closed

643
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: and it stayed closed. He didn't hit him and then

644
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: open it and then yank it out. He didn't do that.

645
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: It just kind of hit and then naturally kind of

646
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: fell off. Now the right hand does come out and

647
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: touch the face of Figaredo, But when you see Figaredo

648
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: retreat and like cover up like he got poked, it's

649
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: only on that other side. Well, the only damage that

650
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: happened to that side was from a clean punch. Now,

651
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: when I say clean, I mean actually say a legal

652
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: punch wasn't very clean, right because it landed flush, but

653
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: not not with the two knuckles. I mean, these are

654
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: this is where you want to hit right on when

655
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: you punch. You want to punch with these two knuckles.

656
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: These are the ones you want to do and you

657
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: want to turn your punch over to the extent possible.

658
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: He landed it like this on the side, so it

659
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: landed without obstruction, and it was well timed all of that,

660
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: but it didn't land with like the full force that

661
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: it could have because he was kind of leaping out

662
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: and trying to catch him at range rather than being

663
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: a little bit shorter and then bringing the hook around. Right.

664
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. It's a legal punch. It's a legal punch right,

665
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: totally above board, clean as a whistle, absolutely fair, nothing

666
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: controversial about it, and his eye completely blew up. They

667
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: go back to the round, go back to the corners

668
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: after the round ends. Can't see shit fights over, dude,

669
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: he Brandon Moreno, wasn't just better in that moment with

670
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: the presence of mind to throw that. He was better

671
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: the entire time tonight. He was better the entire time.

672
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: He had great defense, he had well timed takedowns, he

673
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: never got out in front of his skis, He had

674
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: great hand speed, he had great shot selection. He just

675
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: did everything he was supposed to correctly or just nearly.

676
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: Let's look at some of the numbers on this fight,

677
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: if we can, and thinking by the way, coming out

678
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: trying to get a takedown at the beginning of round

679
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: two and got one that was nice, but you know,

680
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do a whole lot with it, trying

681
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: to switch it up in the that he was. Let's

682
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: look at some of these numbers if we can here.

683
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: So for Brandon Moreno, let's see he lands forty eight

684
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: to Figuredo's nineteen significant strikes. He was just Figurado just

685
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get going, just couldn't get going. He got Devinson.

686
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Figuredo's credited with one of two takedowns. Brandon Moreno credited

687
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: with three, three of six. Very good. How about this

688
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Moreno's control time six minutes and fifty two seconds,

689
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: very very impressive that he was able to do that. Again,

690
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: that's not the thing that ultimately matters by itself, but

691
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: as part of a larger stats profile, that's really great.

692
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: First round Brandon Moreno seventeen strikes significant to Figuredo's five.

693
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: Round two a little bit closer, seventeen to ten, still

694
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: in Moreno's favor. Round three fourteen to four. He had

695
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: two rounds where he So this is something that Volkanovski

696
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: is good at in a different way. Bolkanovski does all

697
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: this fainting and moving and faking where guys just don't

698
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: know what the fuck is coming, and so they end

699
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: up not throwing as much because they just don't know

700
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: how to make a read. It ends up having this

701
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: suppressive effect on his opponent's offense. It's not just the

702
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: opponent is throwing, he's getting out of the way or

703
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: catching it. They're just not throwing as much because they

704
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: can't see shit and they or they just don't know

705
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: what to expect. They they're, as he calls it, he

706
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: scrambles their brains. You didn't get exactly that he wasn't

707
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: doing all this kind of faking and fainting, but that

708
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: he was so clever with what he was doing. Figuredo

709
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: was a little bit confused out there. He just wasn't

710
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: really sure what to do in terms of targeting. Brandon

711
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Maurreno is seventy seven percent of the head, fourteen percent

712
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: of the body, eight percent of the legs. Figuredo going

713
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: to the body heavily, heavily, but it didn't seem to

714
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: do a lot, did it right? That was the weird part.

715
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: He was landing. He was lading some good body kicks

716
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: at times, but couldn't do a whole lot with it

717
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: forty two percent of the head forty two percent of

718
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: the body, so he split it evenly between the two

719
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the leg. It just didn't matter in

720
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: terms of some of the other pieces here. Let's look

721
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: at the leg kicks. Figuredo landed one in round one,

722
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: two and round two and nothing in round three. Not

723
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: much more from Urno two to one and one. Let's

724
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: look at the head. Yeah, I mean Brandon ma Reno

725
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: targeting thirteen strikes to the head in the first thirteen

726
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: to the head and the second eleven, so he was

727
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: really touching him up with that. He would think he

728
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: was catching him constantly. Able to do that in the

729
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: second round. Let's see the second round Statistically speaking, how

730
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: the fuck did they give that to Figuredo? I get

731
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: that it was close and he did have some damaging strikes,

732
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: but statistically he got beat everywhere. He got one takedown

733
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: moreno matched it Moreno outlanded him in total strikes. He

734
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: outlanded him in significant strikes. He oh the sub attempt

735
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: that he tried to get, but it didn't that Figurato

736
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: tried to get, but the ankle. Was it the ankle

737
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: of the guillotine? Excuse me, the guillotine. Here's why I

738
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: didn't give him the guillotine as all that big a deal. Now,

739
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a million exceptions to what I'm about

740
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: to say, or there's always caveats. There's all this but

741
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: on on guillotines, especially if they're arm in guillotines. This

742
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: is very true in general. In general. Okay, if you

743
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: see someone in mma and they have an arm in guillotine, right,

744
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: a good arm in guillotine, the arm that's choking. You

745
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: should not necessarily be able to see the elbow. It

746
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: should be buried underneath a little bit beneath the other

747
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: opponent's shoulder line, or at least very close to it.

748
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: And again you may not have to go all that

749
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: deep to get it, but that's just a sort of

750
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: a good rule of thumb. And you should be on

751
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: that same side, driving it right, turning, yes, pulling. You

752
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: didn't see that? What did you see from moreno? Moreno

753
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: got him to the other side. So here's the choking

754
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: arm of figuredo. Not only is the elbow visible, but

755
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: he's not on the same side. He's on the other side.

756
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: So now what do he knows about the elbow? But

757
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm on here, I'm neutral right now, watch my elbow

758
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: when I get put to my other hip. It comes up.

759
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: If you see someone going for a guillotine and they

760
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: are on the opposite hip of the arm, that that's choking,

761
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: and that elbow is super high in the air, like

762
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: very visible. It's not to say that the choke couldn't

763
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: get It's not to say that the choke could never

764
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: work there, but that's a very low percentage way of

765
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: that it's gonna happen, and in general it will fail,

766
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: and sure enough it did. A good arm in guillotine

767
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: is on this either depending on how they want to

768
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: do it, but typically they should be on the same

769
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: side as the choking arm, and that elbow should be

770
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: buried beneath the opponent's shoulder line. And you just didn't

771
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: see that. So I recognized that it was tight, and

772
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: it took a moment from Mareno to extricate himself from it.

773
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't take it all that seriously. That to

774
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: me was a thing that I'm not gonna say Figurina

775
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: was stalling. I don't think that's true, but it had

776
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: a stalling effect because Morena was you know, it was

777
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: tight like it wasn't like I think you could just

778
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: easily squirm right out of. But it wasn't a real

779
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: genuine win threat, right, Just mechanically, it can't be the

780
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: reason why submissions work in these very specific ways. Generally speaking,

781
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: that I'm talking to you about is because you need them.

782
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: You need that mechanical advantage, you need that mechanical setup

783
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: for it to function properly. If my elbow is back

784
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: and up and I'm on my opposite hip, it's just

785
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: where's the force? You just don't have. You don't have

786
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: what you need. That's why it doesn't work. It's not magic,

787
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: it's that the mechanics of it no longer makes sense.

788
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: So when I see an elbow like that up and

789
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: then I see him turning his chin to the inside,

790
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: yes it's still tight around his head, but he's not

791
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: really he's not in danger. Not really. He is if

792
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: if he doesn't mind his p's and q's, but in general,

793
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: he's not really in trouble. So I just don't I

794
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: have a hard time giving him that second round Because

795
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: of that, I recognize that it was something he had

796
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: to take seriously. It was a threat for Loose for

797
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: a second or two, but once he got into doabas

798
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: at hip elbow, Ray's chin inside, it's not it's not,

799
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: there's no there's no choke there. What's doing the actual choking? Nothing?

800
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: So for me, he won that one clean sweep. You know,

801
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Danny Segura had a tweet before the fights started tonight

802
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: and he noted he had four Mexican fighters. In the tweet,

803
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: he had the pictures of them. It was Irene al Donna,

804
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: it was Alexa Grosso, it was Yaya Rodriguez, and it

805
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: was Brandon Moreno, and all four of them are going

806
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: to be fighting for titles this year. Moreno obviously just

807
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: did so he's one of four. I think it's gonna

808
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: be Valentina Chifchenko taking on Grosso and al Donna's gonna

809
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: take it on Nunez, and Rodriguez is fighting for an

810
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: interim title against Josh Emmett. So you know, winner of

811
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: that we'll have to see Volkanovski unless Volkanoski wins and

812
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: drops one forty five. But you know they're all I mean,

813
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: that fight against Emmett is a you know, it's a legitimate,

814
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: very difficult fight and you know, can you say a

815
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: deserving interim champ I don't know if such a thing exists,

816
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm trying to get at, like,

817
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: that's a championship level opportunity in a moment there. This

818
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: is a moment. It's been happening for a while, it's

819
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: been in place for a while, but this is a

820
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: moment twenty twenty three where you could see a genuine

821
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: enormous ascendancy of Mexican mma, of its abilities. And again,

822
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: this has been something that's been in the process of

823
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: developing to this point for a long time. Now. All

824
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: the other three fighters I mentioned may lose, right moreno

825
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: one tonight, but they're the ones might lose. But that

826
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: you could have a possibility of having four UFC Mexican

827
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: champions was even ten years ago unthinkable, unthinkable, And now

828
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: Mexico is on the precipice of something truly historic. Long

829
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: way to go, long way to go, but truly truly historical.

830
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: And you know, the growth of Mexican MMA only makes

831
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: MMA richer. We're talking the Mexican fucking people. Man, these

832
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: are the most rock ribbed fight fans maybe on Earth

833
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico might have something to say about that, but

834
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: or you know, the UK two when it comes to boxing,

835
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: or the Irish MME groups. I mean, you get the idea.

836
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: But that's what we're talking about here, a storied history

837
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: of contributors to combat sports greatness. And now look at

838
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing in MMA. It is fucking unbelievable. It

839
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. I'm telling you. When I started covering MMA

840
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, the idea of a Mexican

841
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: fighter beating like a Brazilian champion was just what that

842
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: doesn't happen? Like? Who, who the fuck's gonna do that?

843
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Who was the Peruvian guy who fought in the UFC

844
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: a long time ago, long time ago. He was like

845
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: all into oh god, what the fuck was his name?

846
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: He said, the first ever Peruvian guy. This is a long, long, long, long,

847
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: long long time ago. I'll find his name. But like

848
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, he was the only Spanish speaking like South

849
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: American guy you'd really ever heard of in the UFC.

850
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: There just wasn't many of them. And now you could

851
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: have four champs within a year. It's amazing. Something else also,

852
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: think about between these two that really stood out to

853
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: me was maybe they'll admit it, maybe they won't. I

854
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like this rivalry made both of

855
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: them dramatically better now. It also happens that Figureedo got

856
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: a little bit older through the whole thing, right, these

857
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: thirty five years of age, and so I think that

858
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: you may color your perspective, perhaps in a different way,

859
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: but it does seem to me that he, and especially Moreno,

860
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: this whole quadrilogy lifted them both Moreno from where he

861
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: was before all of this got started to where he

862
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: is now, especially having his whole camp fucked up because

863
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: of what happened with James Krause and everything else, is miraculous.

864
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: His development is amazing to watch. And Figaredo, I think

865
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: before was much more of a sort of balls out

866
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: wild man who you know, could could scramble with the

867
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: best of him and had big, hard punch. He is

868
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: much cleaner today than he used to be, much much

869
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: even if today there wasn't enough to get it done

870
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: against a Brandon Moreno. But I think both of them

871
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: and also we should say this too, man, this was

872
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: a division that was on the fucking chopping block not

873
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: too long ago, and now it is a division of

874
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: kings Dude divison. Figaredo, he couldn't hold onto the title tonight,

875
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: but he is a very worthy, you know, just championship

876
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: level guy. And he found a rival in this totally

877
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: upstart guy who I think was you know, not considered

878
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: to be championship caliber when he started. And look at

879
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: what he's turned into. And they lifted the division after

880
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: the departure of Henry Shudo and Demetrius Johnson and the

881
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: UFC letting half the guys go and maybe we're gonna

882
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: cut it, maybe we're not. And they built They helped

883
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: that wasn't just them alone, but they helped rebuild this

884
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: division with their amazing rivalry. They built themselves, They built

885
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: back up flyweight, they built back I think they set

886
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: the bar for flyweight excellence going forward. Obviously, I'm sure,

887
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, Henry Shudo has something to say about that,

888
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: but I really believe these guys are you know, have

889
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: done that as well, showing you what it looks like

890
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: to be a dominant puncher, to be a you know,

891
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: absolutely limitless cardio, to to scramble with the way they

892
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: can and lock on submissions and find the back and

893
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: get the takedown. And kickbox at range. I mean, all

894
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: of the various things are so very very good at

895
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 1: These guys made the night better. They made that division better,

896
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: they made themselves better, they made the rivalry better. We

897
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: are lucky to have witness something like this tonight. Even

898
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: if you're a Brazilian and you really want to figure

899
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: out her to win and you were chucking popcorn at Moreno,

900
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: I think a more sober evaluation will tell you that

901
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: it didn't go to Brazilian guys way tonight. But I

902
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: think there's a lot to be very happy about between them,

903
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: some of the fights on this card, and we'll get

904
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: to some of your questions. Gilbert Burns, Neil Magny, So

905
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: what did he do? Switch dance? So he was this way,

906
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: stutter steps, throws a right and as he does, he

907
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: steps forward with the right so now the right shoulder

908
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: is first, and then uses that to go behind him

909
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 1: and get a body lock. Does that gets on top

910
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: and you know, takes them down. Why is the body

911
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: lock a good way to get a takedown, especially on

912
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: someone like that if you want to launch a submission

913
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: into it? Obviously, because if you go just and do

914
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: the leg tackle, they can use their hands to apply

915
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: a submission to keep you off of their hips. It

916
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: just once you get the takedown from the upper body

917
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: and then you drop them down, you already have negated

918
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: so many of the other weapons that get from a

919
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: typical leg take down, right, So it's just it's just

920
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: very advantageous. You can pin them from there, you can

921
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: land into a side pin or even a top pin.

922
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a very very effective way in

923
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: MMA to take someone down, especially when you want to

924
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: keep them down and you want to start from a

925
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: relatively advantageous position to get around some of the other

926
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: complicating factors. A bodylock takedown is an excellent choice to

927
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: switch stance into it to get it. And then once

928
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: Gilbert burns his jiu jitsu got going downhill. That dude's

929
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: a four time world champion in the black belt division. Like,

930
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you, man, if you've

931
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: never rolled with a black belt world champion, I've rolled

932
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: with a guy who was a no ge world champion.

933
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it to you. Like

934
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: you can't do anything to them. It's like it's shocking,

935
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: Like you can't do anything to them, and you know,

936
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: Magni is talented man, and I and Magni, I'll say

937
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: this for him, never runs a challenge. His record would

938
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: be better if he was a little bit more careful.

939
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: You know, never ever, ever says no to a difficult challenge,

940
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: never says no to getting better, never says no to

941
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 1: not being a student, never says no to hard work.

942
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: You have to admire that. But from a skill standpoint,

943
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns is a fucking hammer hammer hammer, and tonight

944
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: he let everyone know he is not done at welterweight,

945
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: making noise whatsoever. I know some people believe that he

946
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: beat Hams out in their fight. I didn't score it

947
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: that way, but I can understand how someone might candidly

948
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: and uh, he called out Colby Covington after the fight.

949
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. I don't know what

950
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: the hell Colby Covington's up to. I don't know what

951
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: he's doing. I don't know what he wants to do.

952
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't know any of that shit. But I would

953
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: love to see that contest. I would truly, truly love

954
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: to see that contest. And I think he's earned an

955
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: opportunity like that. And this was clinical. I mean, he

956
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't even want to take this fight, and I can

957
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: see why, right, he took it because he wanted to

958
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: stay busy. You know, Neil is a tough opponent, but dude,

959
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: they weren't on the same level. You know, there's not

960
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: many guys who are on Gilbert's level. Gilbert is a tough, tough,

961
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: tough out man. Maybe he can't beat the best guys

962
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: we'll see. You know, so far he hasn't been able to.

963
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: But if you're not one of them, it's going to

964
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: be a rough night for you against a dude like that. Jesus, man,

965
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: what do we say about this Jessica and Rodge and

966
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: Lauren Murphy fight. Man, there was a tweet from our guy,

967
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: Aaron Bronstetter. Let me read this to you. This one

968
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: shocked me. I guess it didn't shock me, but saddened me. Quote.

969
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: Lauren Murphy officially absorbed one hundred and sixty one significant

970
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: head strikes in her loss to Jessica Androge Okay, one

971
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one significant head strikes three round fight.

972
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: By comparison in Zhongwai Le versus Yoana one, which was

973
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: that arguably the best women's fight ever. They absorbed a

974
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: combined one hundred and ninety two significant head strikes over

975
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: five rounds. So you have one fighter who took one

976
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one significant head strikes in three rounds,

977
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: and you have two who combined took slightly more over

978
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: the course of five. Dude. What Ohsyrus the referee and

979
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: I defended him earlier in the night because I've seen

980
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: him do some work that I didn't think was all

981
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: that bad. But rufey Osiris Maya had a bad night.

982
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: He had a real bad night. He fucked up this

983
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: fight in not stopping it, and then the Terence McKinney

984
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: fight he was he had he had the mouthpiece and

985
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting it back in on time, right, So

986
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: he has two obvious, like pretty bad errors and this

987
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: one was fucking egregious. If you ask me, you know,

988
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: how do I get into this? Daniel Cormier said something

989
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: on the broadcast, not that he was agreeing with it,

990
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: but it's something that you hear all the time, and

991
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: you've heard me talk about this. If you're if you're

992
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: new to me, this will be new. If you're not,

993
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: then you're aware of what I'm about to say, which

994
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: is you hear this argument all the time, which is, well,

995
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: the corner knows them better, so they're in the best

996
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: position to, you know, make a decision. Dude, this is

997
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: obviously not true. It's obviously not true. Now understand what

998
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying there is it's an if they well it's

999
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: not if then. But there are two parts to the

1000
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: statement about the corners, right, the corners know them better

1001
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: that statement one, and then the argument is because they

1002
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: know them better, therefore they're better off they're the ones

1003
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: who should be making these decisions. Uh. And it's like, dude,

1004
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: the fact that you know them better in no way

1005
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: makes you capable of making a rational, fair, important medical decision,

1006
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: and in fact it might impede you. It might impede you,

1007
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: and in fact it routinely does what ends up actually

1008
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: happening when you see these guys get in this case,

1009
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: this lady Lauren Murphy is tough as nails to do

1010
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: what she did. Jessica and Grodge puts people out with

1011
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: those punches. Lauren Murphy took all of them. She is

1012
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: an absolute, I mean anvil. Okay, credits are her for

1013
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: being she is a fucking anvil. But but the reality

1014
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: is this, and it happens when you see a lot

1015
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: of father son combos. Her husband was in the corner.

1016
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: And again, you know, I'm sure that if you ask

1017
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: them they would say, we feel like what we did

1018
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: was great. But respectfully speaking, Lord and Murphy didn't need

1019
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: to take that abuse in the third round. It didn't

1020
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: do any good, It didn't change any fortunes. All she

1021
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: did was take up more abuse that didn't have to happen.

1022
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: And what actually you see from corners and situations like

1023
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: this when they get their backup against the wall and

1024
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: they say, well, we know them better, It's like, I'm

1025
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: not challenging that you know them better. What I'm saying

1026
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: to you is because you know them so well, and

1027
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: because it's not just how well you know them, it's

1028
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: how much you love them or how much you believe

1029
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: in them and how much you believe in the possibility

1030
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: of doing anything. Because these guys, all of them, the

1031
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: corners to a lot of former fighters and trainers, they

1032
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: all have this push through limits mentality, Push through limits mentality,

1033
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: don't stop keep going. I know this person. I've seen

1034
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: them reach these difficult heights in practice, I've seen them

1035
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: overcome it they then have the corner has an rational

1036
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: belief in their ability, that their fighter's ability to overcome

1037
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: the beating that they're taking. That's what ends up happening.

1038
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: It actually makes it worse for their fighter because they're like, no, no, no, no, no,

1039
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: matter about how bad it gets, I know they can

1040
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: overcome that. Dude, you think that because you love them.

1041
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: You don't think that because you're making an honest evaluation

1042
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: of the evidence. The fact that they like them so much,

1043
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: the fact that they believe in them, the fact that

1044
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: they also have a lot of the same worldviews about

1045
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: overcoming adversity. All that does is actually get more people hurt.

1046
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: There is a different calculation that goes into whether or

1047
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: not a fight should continue that can have some overlap

1048
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: with how well you know them. Yes, but I think

1049
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: has a whole different set of considerations that have to

1050
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: get made that have fuck all to do with how

1051
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: well you know them. If how well you knew a

1052
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: corner prevented people from getting hurt, we wouldn't be in

1053
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: this situation to begin with. We're here because that idea

1054
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: is obviously not fucking true. It is not true. It

1055
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: is not true. Of course, someone's gonna say it was

1056
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: true in this case. It was true in that case. Fine,

1057
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: you can find individual cases where someone was hands off

1058
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: and they miraculously got it done. But anytime you see

1059
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: someone take a beating like this, it is because it

1060
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: is not true. It only happens because the corner. And

1061
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: but by the way, I mean, I have to go

1062
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: back in here. I'm not even sure what the corner said.

1063
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, I like Lauren Murphy a lot,

1064
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: man like, I don't wish any of this on her.

1065
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: She's been to me. I think, you know, one of

1066
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: these fighters whose ability has been very much unheralded. You

1067
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: didn't get a great glimpse of that tonight. She had

1068
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: a very tough bout. But in general, you know, the

1069
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: winner of Mishia Tate was legit. She's got a few

1070
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: of them too, and she got sortied late. Like I

1071
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: love her story. I love the story of Lauren Murphy.

1072
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: But what I just don't want to hear anymore because

1073
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: it's just so latantly not true, is that the corner

1074
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: is the are the people that are best equipped to

1075
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: make these decisions because they know them so well. Get

1076
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here with that, Get out of

1077
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: here with that. All that does is make it worse.

1078
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't fix anything. It's the root of the problem,

1079
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: not the antidote. So I hated that. I hated that.

1080
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Murphy did everything she could. You couldn't

1081
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: have asked anything else from her. You couldn't have asked

1082
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: anything else from her. She tried everything she had, She

1083
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: withstood everything Jessica threw at her. I take my hat

1084
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: off to Lauren Murphy, but she didn't need to take

1085
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: the beating in the third round. It didn't need to happen,

1086
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: and the referee failed her. And I really think that

1087
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: the corner and I know that they're her loved one,

1088
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna bash them, but I really, really,

1089
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: really strongly encourage them to rethink the decision making that

1090
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: went into letting her go out there for that third

1091
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion. By the way, do you notice

1092
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: what one reason why Murphy couldn't get the takedown and

1093
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: hold it. She got to take down a couple times early,

1094
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: but she couldn't hold it. Dude, did you notice how

1095
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: well Androge was hand fighting and breaking the grip apart.

1096
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: That's really the key to it is you have to

1097
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: break that. The hands can stay locked, they can do

1098
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot with it, so you have to break it.

1099
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: So she was leaning back into it, pushing down. Jose

1100
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Aldo was very good at this, just amazing hand fighting,

1101
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: really really good hand fighting. And then, last but not least,

1102
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: how about Paul Craig and Johnny Walker? How did he

1103
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: set it up? Dude? This was clever from Johnny Walker.

1104
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: People who are you might see Paul Craig shoot for

1105
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: doubles on occasion or whatever. He does go for takedowns.

1106
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: It does happen, but he also likes to catch kicks

1107
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: and then run people down, and that way he can

1108
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: be on top at times. And I think that they

1109
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: knew he was going to try to catch a kick.

1110
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: So what you actually see is you actually see Walker faint,

1111
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Craig backwards throw the pushkick, and it could have been

1112
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: bait by the way, just to get to see if

1113
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: you would catch it. I mean, throw it with some

1114
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: intention but to sefe will catch it. But either way,

1115
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: he catches it with two hands, which yeah, there's nothing

1116
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: wrong with that. You I mean, if you can catch

1117
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: it with one, do it. But when they come straight

1118
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: you kind of have to clamp down with two, but

1119
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: because his hands were down he immediately recognized it. Just

1120
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: fantastic presence of mind from Johnny Walker. And he came

1121
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: in with a right hand that landed flush, no defense

1122
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: at all, and Craig simply couldn't recover. He simply couldn't recover.

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01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: That was it. So great win from Johnny Walker. Great win.

1124
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: And then he does the fucking worm which messed him

1125
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: up before. But you know, old habits die hard. I

1126
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: guess Shogun Hula retired tonight after losing. By the way,

1127
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: let me just read the result here because I didn't

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: get him all out. I just want to make sure

1129
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: that I didn't mess it all up. So just be

1130
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: just to be very clear. Your your main card. Gilbert

1131
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: Burns defeating Neil Magni arm triangle choke at four to

1132
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: fifteen round one. Just Gondrodge defe Lauren Murphy. How about

1133
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: this two thirty twenty five's one thirty twenty six. How

1134
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: the fuck? Okay, if you see a card, go to

1135
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: you decision with two thirty twenty fives and a thirty

1136
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: twenty six and no one lost a point because of

1137
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, I pokes or whatever. So that's just from

1138
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: getting at your ass kicked, nothing to do with any penalties.

1139
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: That fight should never have gone to a decision. That

1140
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: fight should never have gone to a decision, should have

1141
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: been stopped. That's the end of it. And then Johnny

1142
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: Walker defeating Paul Craig via TKO at two sixteen of

1143
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: round one. Overall, a pretty good card, your preliminary card,

1144
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: a main event, of course. Ihore Potieria defeating Mauricio shogun

1145
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Hua four oh five of round one. I think he

1146
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: landed one really really good left hook that kind of

1147
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: got Pottieria Pottieria's attention, but he couldn't do much after that.

1148
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: He gets clipped with a punch I think on the side,

1149
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: almost like the back of the head temple area, and

1150
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: he could recover, and he was finished off and he

1151
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: needed to go. I mean, shogun Hu I should not

1152
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: have been fighting this late into his career. But I'll

1153
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: say this for Shogun I mean, we could just heat

1154
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: praise on him all day long, but the best thing

1155
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: I could say is I mean, I could say many things.

1156
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: Tournaments are a big thing in combat sports and wrestling

1157
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: and kickboxing, and an MMA in jiu jitsu two and

1158
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: an MMA they've changed over time. They all used to

1159
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: be one night tournament, so now they can go over

1160
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: the course of a year. But Pride did them where

1161
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: they would have two of the if you made it

1162
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: through all four, the first two would be in different nights,

1163
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: and then the last two would be on the same night.

1164
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: And I'll just tell you this Shogun who was run

1165
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: through the Pride Grand Prix two thousand and five Middleweight Attorney, Right,

1166
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: the Pride two thousand and five Middleweight Grand Prix, and

1167
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: that middleweight is two o five. That's what Pride called

1168
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: their middleweight two o five, So the two five attorney

1169
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: basically that run at which I think in this so

1170
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: let me go back, who did he beat that whole time?

1171
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: So he KOed Arona and was it Little Nog on

1172
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: the same night? No, he decisioned Little Nog It was

1173
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: Arona and who else on the same night. Listen to

1174
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: this run. This was his run in that tournament in

1175
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Oh yeah, here we go, So

1176
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: here we go. Ready round one? He finished off rampage

1177
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: in four forty seven of round one from the knees

1178
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: inside the clinch and then, like you know, brutal soccer

1179
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: kicks and shit amazing. Then he comes back that was

1180
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: in April of that year. He comes back in June

1181
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: and decisions Little Nog which was a shooter to box

1182
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Brazilian top team rivalry that was a huge rivalry at

1183
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: that time, and that was a great, great fight. Then

1184
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: on the same night in August, he comes back and

1185
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: TKO's Alistair Overeim at six forty two of round one,

1186
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: remember ten minute first round. And then the same night

1187
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: comes back and Ko's Arona at two fifty four of

1188
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: round one. Folks, that is the fucking best performance any

1189
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: MMA fighter has ever had in a major tournament period.

1190
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I've seen some other I've seen more dominant ones like

1191
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: Bader's run through the Headway Grand Prix that bells were

1192
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: put together. Yeah, he barely got a punch put on him,

1193
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: but in terms of like the quality of opposition and

1194
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: how he performed, that was absolutely in every way magisterial, incredible,

1195
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 1: incredible job. And he had other heights beyond that. He got,

1196
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, robbed against Machida the first time and then

1197
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: just blew the doors of him the second time, the

1198
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: win over Chuck Ladell, the fight with Dan Henderson, you know,

1199
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: even if he lost that one or was a draw, whatever, Like,

1200
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: He's just had many, many, many great nights. But that

1201
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and five someone mentioned this to me as well,

1202
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: his two thousand and five and John Jones's twenty eleven

1203
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: someone tweeted me this, and they were right. Those are

1204
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: like the two best calendar years any MMA fighters ever had.

1205
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: So you know, we're talking about one of the very

1206
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: best to ever do it. It. Certainly at certain points of

1207
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: his career, should have hung it up a long time ago,

1208
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: but there you have it. Also, Jose Aldo getting into

1209
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Jose Aldo was announced as part

1210
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty three class for the Hall of Fame.

1211
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: And you know, the Hall of Fame is run by

1212
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: the UFC, it's not run by an independent organization, so

1213
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: guys are going to get in, perhaps without the traditional

1214
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: waiting periods or whatever the case may be. But how

1215
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: do you Aldo is one of the best fighters any

1216
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: of us has ever seen. He was a pioneer for

1217
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: the lighterweight guys. He was just a dynamic athlete at

1218
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: a time when guys were, you know, very heavy, lopsided

1219
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: skill sets. He was this kid out of Rio who

1220
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: could strike his ass off. He had ridiculous jiu jitsu,

1221
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: and he could remember Gray Maynard the first time he

1222
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: trained with him, came back, it was like, holy shit.

1223
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: His defensive wrestling is incredible. He advanced the game, he

1224
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: advanced the division, He advanced virtually any cause in terms

1225
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: of fighting that he was a part of. Just one

1226
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: of the very best to ever do it in any

1227
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: weight class. One of the best wind streaks you'll ever see.

1228
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: Just just a just a complete marriage of athleticism and skill, right,

1229
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: a puma who just had all of the hunting tricks.

1230
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: He was that guy, and he had one of the

1231
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: most dynamic skill sets ever and some of the best

1232
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: wins ever. And of course his time came to But

1233
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: it's great to see the UFC put him into the

1234
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and it's like, where's Anderson? Should Anderson

1235
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: someone would be in that Hall of Fame too, But

1236
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, you take it as you get it, all right,

1237
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: Let's see what kind of questions you have, and then

1238
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: we shall call it a day. I'm sure I've missed

1239
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: whatever has happened at the post fight presser, but that's

1240
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: what happens, all right. Did Anthony Smith just earn a

1241
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: title shot. Maybe maybe, but I think it's gonna go

1242
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: to on Calive. There seemed to be a passing of

1243
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: the guard In Brazilian m a to I what impact

1244
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: to have athletes like, Yeah, we got kind of out

1245
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: of that one. Gilbert Burns is a problem. How surprised

1246
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: was he'll take down the fence? Yeah? It was crazy.

1247
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: Who would make sense for an ideal matchup for Figgie

1248
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: at one thirty five? So if we pull up the

1249
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 1: rankings at one thirty five, Jack Shore, I mean umar

1250
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: number gameado, I was sitting at eleven. Good luck with

1251
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: that shit, good luck with that. Uh let's see this

1252
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: person writes, I'm surprised most people are saying moreno dominated Figuredo.

1253
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: In my opinion, rounds one and two were super close.

1254
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: They were close. They were close with fig subs arguably

1255
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: be the biggest moment. See, I just didn't the ankle

1256
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: lock wasn't close, and neither was the guillotine. They were

1257
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: not close. Which bomb Fien brother? Were you more impressed

1258
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: by ishmael Ismail? I would say it he was the

1259
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: first one that was that ko of his was on

1260
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: Terence McKinney. Was how terrible is Hill's chest tattoo. It's

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Speaker 1: not great. It's not great. It's fairly bad. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: if y' isy and Potata, who do you think would

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Speaker 1: win the most fights if they all had to fight

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Speaker 1: the other three on f Hill? That's a tough one. Podta,

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Speaker 1: I guess better career Showgun or Glover? Probably Showgun, but

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Speaker 1: they're different careers too. Right, If Panata defeats Izzy on

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Speaker 1: their matchup, do you think the US will pump them

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Speaker 1: up for a double weight? They might? Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 1: a bad thought. That could absolutely happen, could walk or

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Speaker 1: contend for a title. I'm skeptical he could put together

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Speaker 1: enough of a win streak. And there's a few other ones,

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Speaker 1: all right, they're will see all the same. That is

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Speaker 1: it for me today. We got you about an hour

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Speaker 1: and fifteen here, roughly, I think of it. Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be covering the whole card me. Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: you Morning Combat thumbs up on the video, hit subscribe,

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Speaker 1: check us out on Monday. Appreciate you guys tuning in.

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Speaker 1: I know it's latest balls, but here you guys are,

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Speaker 1: and we love you for it. So let me know

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Speaker 1: what you thow of the card. You can shoot me

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Speaker 1: an email, Luke Thomas news at gmail dot com. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're back on Monday, So thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for watching. Until next time, get some sleep yay