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Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, Bicky, and we're Brown.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Welcome back, Tiffany.
Speaker 2: No, it feels so good to be back. Honestly, I
Speaker 2: woke up this morning. It was my first day of like,
Speaker 2: you know, back at work, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: one more day. But then I had my first call
Speaker 2: with the team, and I was like, I love it here.
Speaker 1: All good. Okay, So you didn't have like the Monday
Speaker 1: scary or what is it the Sunday scaries coming back?
Speaker 2: No, I was like, you know, yesterday, it was just
Speaker 2: I'm used to waking up and literally being like I
Speaker 2: could do whatever I want, and so initially I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: I have responsibilities. So I wasn't sure how I felt
Speaker 2: about it, But then talking to the team and they
Speaker 2: were just so excited and the projects that were working on,
Speaker 2: and I honestly loved doing the budget Nista, but the
Speaker 2: time away it was like my chance to reconnect with Tiffany.
Speaker 2: I had not hung out with her in a long
Speaker 2: long time, so.
Speaker 3: It's not like, you know, it happened.
Speaker 2: So it was like, Tiffany, it's cute that you do Budgetista,
Speaker 2: but there's also Tiffany, so don't forget about her.
Speaker 3: So it was just a really great time to reconnect.
Speaker 3: Six weeks. I took three of the weeks to go
Speaker 3: on VAK and then three three in a row.
Speaker 2: No like the first week. I needed like a real decompressed.
Speaker 2: I told my husband, everybody leave me alone. I run
Speaker 2: to the beach house right next to the border, and
Speaker 2: I remember many we had, like our long, like delicious talk.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: I was like, I probably can't expect a two hours
Speaker 1: phone calls from every day of her fatus, but it.
Speaker 2: Was great, And honestly, I walked the boardwalk. I went
Speaker 2: back to being vegan. I got so much exercising. Although
Speaker 2: I have not lost any weight, my.
Speaker 3: Body is shapely, honey, like I lost inches.
Speaker 2: I just feel really good, and I took two weeks
Speaker 2: to kind of hang out with my my niece and
Speaker 2: my nephew. Like my sister was so grateful because like
Speaker 2: every other day, I was like, I'm coming to pick
Speaker 2: up the kids. I'm taking them to the zoo, I'm
Speaker 2: coming to pick up the kids. I'm taking them on
Speaker 2: a little hike for like four hours. And she was like,
Speaker 2: is this real life? So that was really a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. And then I hung out my family a
Speaker 2: lot and and Superman and Supergirl.
Speaker 3: Then I took a one week vacation to Ashville, North Carolina.
Speaker 3: About five days.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see the Biltmore because I really love Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love historic homes. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've always too wanted to see like the Blue mountains,
Speaker 2: you know untains.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're beautiful. The Builtmore is I don't even have
Speaker 3: the words for it.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was so beautiful. And then the last week we
Speaker 3: went to Florida Keys and that was, Yes, that was amazing,
Speaker 3: Like it was that.
Speaker 1: Is not the Jersey Shore, No, it was very much.
Speaker 3: It was it was giving Jamaica without the accents. Okay,
Speaker 3: So that was with the family. So Biltmore I did
Speaker 3: by myself.
Speaker 2: The shore I did by myself, but then invited like
Speaker 2: my sister and the kids for for a night to
Speaker 2: spend the night. And then uh Florida I did with
Speaker 2: the you know, my husband and my my bonus baby,
Speaker 2: my bonus daughter, and so it was exactly you know
Speaker 2: sometimes you like I was worried that I wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to just sit home,
Speaker 2: but I also don't want to give myself task because
Speaker 2: you know how we are like. And then you know,
Speaker 2: like first week I was like taking courses. My husband
Speaker 2: was like, what what are you doing. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I started this trading course. I'm totally gonna learn the trade.
Speaker 1: And that's how you told the day we talked and
Speaker 1: we were like, I don't learn how to trade.
Speaker 2: And then after three.
Speaker 3: Days and I was like, this is not fun, Tiffany.
Speaker 2: This is supposed to be a break girl. You can
Speaker 2: learn to trade at on your own time, on a budget,
Speaker 2: Easter time.
Speaker 3: This is Tiffany time.
Speaker 2: So when I tell you I read at least ten books, Mandy,
Speaker 2: it's been because.
Speaker 3: I was really like a big reader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like and then I just didn't get a chance
Speaker 2: to you know, I just never gave Tiffany a chance
Speaker 2: to be Tiffany. So I stopped reading as much, but
Speaker 2: I forgot how much I enjoyed reading, and I read
Speaker 2: some really great books. I found myself reading a lot
Speaker 2: of amazing kind of memoirs from like dope people and
Speaker 2: being inspired by their journey and like their journey allowing
Speaker 2: me to see my journey differently, like oh, you're not crazy,
Speaker 2: Like how you're feeling is normal. This is I read
Speaker 2: ebon Orgi's what is it called Bamboozo My d Jesus.
Speaker 3: That was really good. I was like, look like I
Speaker 3: was like not.
Speaker 2: To say, I'm surprised it was good, but especially once
Speaker 2: you got into the meat and potatoes, it was really
Speaker 2: good about reconnecting me back to spirit and like how
Speaker 2: it could she really make sure that God plays like
Speaker 2: a role in her everyday life.
Speaker 3: It's not just like this like oh, off to the side.
Speaker 2: And it was a reminder that like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I haven't been connected to a higher source. And then
Speaker 2: I listened to Elaine welter Off More Than Enough. That's
Speaker 2: such a great book about her story and how she
Speaker 2: became his teen Vogue editor in chief and all that
Speaker 2: happened and how she got there.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 2: Then randomly I listened to Magnolia, you know, Magnolia Story
Speaker 2: Chip and Joanna.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, that was good. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: they have a memoir.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was really good about it.
Speaker 2: It's actually less I thought it was gonna be about
Speaker 2: how do they become you know, Chip and Joanna Gains
Speaker 2: of HGTV. No. What I didn't realize is like they
Speaker 2: had already done ninety percent of the work by the
Speaker 2: time the show came along.
Speaker 3: So it was kind of like, oh, wow, the show.
Speaker 2: Didn't actually make them. The show would put a spotlight
Speaker 2: on what they made. And I was like, oh, and
Speaker 2: I had to like mentally apologize to Chip because I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna lie he was an idiot and.
Speaker 1: Make him look so like the dumb jock. But you
Speaker 1: know TV will do that.
Speaker 2: No, Mandy, when I tell you he's the business like
Speaker 2: genius behind it all, I was like, wait, what.
Speaker 3: I was not to say? Joanna obviously is smart, but
Speaker 3: like she is the creative one.
Speaker 2: Joanna says, hmm, I think that we should you know,
Speaker 2: like bread crocodiles, and Chip figures it out and finances
Speaker 2: it and figures, you know what I mean. So she
Speaker 2: has like the idea and sometimes and many times the
Speaker 2: idea comes from him.
Speaker 3: But it actually hit his part because it was, you know,
Speaker 3: they both read the book.
Speaker 2: His part made me want to go and read his book,
Speaker 2: and I did. I think it's called Capital Gains, and
Speaker 2: I was even more impressed. He's got an amazing business
Speaker 2: mind and how he thinks about growth.
Speaker 3: And I was like, so sorry, you're not a dummy.
Speaker 2: And now I'm listening to Shoe Dog, Phil Knight's book
Speaker 2: about Nike. He's the co founder of Nike. Honestly, if
Speaker 2: you you are a business owner, I implore you to
Speaker 2: read or listen to Shoe Dog because it is the realest,
Speaker 2: like I guess, memoir or story about a business. Literally
Speaker 2: he failed for like fifteen year street and so you
Speaker 2: know all these illusions that you see on social media
Speaker 2: of like I make my money and I only worked too.
Speaker 2: I was a year Like you listened to Shoe Dog
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my god, how did he keep going?
Speaker 3: It's such a really good like book.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I read, like I said, a ton of
Speaker 2: books and they really helped to reset how I thought
Speaker 2: about how I thought about my journey and my life,
Speaker 2: and they were just really interesting and so like I
Speaker 2: just I'm just full of so many like lessons and
Speaker 2: bursting with like I don't know, I'm just rejuvenated and
Speaker 2: my comf is refilled.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that I only had a Well, we
Speaker 1: missed you so much, but we had a wonderful opportunity
Speaker 1: to get some guests on the show. But we're so
Speaker 1: excited to have you. I'm saying we I'm so excited,
Speaker 1: and I imagine all the listeners are so excited. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about taking time off and rejuvenating
Speaker 1: because that's something. I mean, you missed a lot while
Speaker 1: you were gone, but nothing groundbreaking. I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of started my own business and got a tesla, and
Speaker 1: I didn't I probably gained inches, I didn't lose any inches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot has gone down. But I just took a
Speaker 1: mini little rejuice. I didn't take a six week hiatis,
Speaker 1: but I took a weekend hiatus. We went to this
Speaker 1: farm in the Catskills, and I don't know. All I
Speaker 1: can say is I drank a bottle of wine last
Speaker 1: week in Tiffany, and I was on the internet and
Speaker 1: I cannot even tell you what search query I typed
Speaker 1: into the Google gods, but I found this farm that
Speaker 1: is like the perfect the perfect getaway for a family
Speaker 1: who wants to be outdoorsy but doesn't want to do
Speaker 1: the work to be outdoorsy. So it was like semi glamping,
Speaker 1: but you get a big private tent with beds and
Speaker 1: a toilet and a sink, but you're in the woods.
Speaker 1: Then you get to cook on a stove, but like
Speaker 1: they provide it for you. And yes, you can have
Speaker 1: a wood burning oven in in your tent, but they
Speaker 1: give you the wood and they chop it for you.
Speaker 1: And then sure they do you know, pizza night on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and they do wood fire pizzas and they have all
Speaker 1: the animals and oh my god, it was so it
Speaker 1: was so fun. And I mean I slept twelve hours.
Speaker 1: I went to bed at eight pm last night, and
Speaker 1: I woke up at eight am this morning because I
Speaker 1: was just so dog tired chasing my child around the
Speaker 1: farm for three days. But I'm with you about like
Speaker 1: no social media and taking a little hiatus because it
Speaker 1: was off the grid, off the grid, there was no
Speaker 1: Wi Fi, no electricity other than the lanterns they would
Speaker 1: give you, you know, to see in the dark at
Speaker 1: at your cabin, but it was in the fresh air.
Speaker 1: When I tell you seeing my son like Rio, and
Speaker 1: you missed this too. So Rio. Actually we've been talking
Speaker 1: to we've been learning more about his speech. He hasn't
Speaker 1: really been talking as much. He's nineteen months now and
Speaker 1: he's in your preschool teachers, he might know a little
Speaker 1: bit about this, but or you were. Anyway, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's got some kind of a speech delay, but he
Speaker 1: loves to communicate. And just seeing him out there, I mean,
Speaker 1: he literally squealed when we when we got when we
Speaker 1: got dropped off at the farm on Friday night, he
Speaker 1: squealed when he saw the chickens. It's all the cows.
Speaker 1: It was wonderful And it was just a weekend. And
Speaker 1: don't tell a husbe, but I already booked another weekend
Speaker 1: at the same farm. Yeah, for October.
Speaker 2: No, it sounds awesome now. Question because another a friend
Speaker 2: of mine, her daughter is two, and she was concerning
Speaker 2: not that she doesn't say anything, but not sentences. It's
Speaker 2: like a word here, word there, And she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, well, one she's two, so
Speaker 2: you know, like that's a when kids are really I
Speaker 2: had a cousin who had speech delay until he was five,
Speaker 2: and now he's like a neuroscientist, so let's not you know.
Speaker 3: I was like, don't look at your house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like sometimes people like literally Now, one of the
Speaker 2: things that I suggested and question, does Enrique do you
Speaker 2: speak to Rio in Spanish?
Speaker 3: And does Rique speak to Rio in Spanish?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 1: Really? No, I know that was something that crossed our mind.
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 1: I can't even pretend like he's raised completely bilingual, except
Speaker 1: he does see his grandparents fairly regularly, and they of
Speaker 1: course speak to him in Spanish. They don't speak English.
Speaker 1: But I will say, you know, for anyone who's listening
Speaker 1: and they have a young like a toddler, who's maybe
Speaker 1: not if you're just concerned, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: any kid to compare him to, especially not during quarantine
Speaker 1: when he hasn't been around any other kids. So basically
Speaker 1: I told myself I'd wait till eighteen months and then
Speaker 1: I'd ask a pediatrician. And she never really seems to
Speaker 1: care that much about any of my concerns. She's always like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's normal, it's which is which is great most of
Speaker 1: the time. But when it came to the eighteen month
Speaker 1: checkup and she said, you know it's it's probably fine,
Speaker 1: just wait and see something told me like, I just
Speaker 1: want to I want to advocate for him. I want
Speaker 1: to take him to a specialist. What I found out though,
Speaker 1: and maybe other places have this too, but in our county,
Speaker 1: in Westchester County and New York, they actually offer a free,
Speaker 1: taxpayer funded early intervention program and you get access to
Speaker 1: speech therapists, like ongoing therapy, evaluations, all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: with excellent, you know resources right here in our county
Speaker 1: that are completely free. So I did drop a couple
Speaker 1: hundred bucks for a private session with a specialist just
Speaker 1: to get a you know, just to get a second
Speaker 1: opinion because the county program. It took a little bit
Speaker 1: for them to get back to me. But we're, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're at the very beginning. They all agree that he's
Speaker 1: not speaking as they would expect for his age. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have very many words at all. But part of
Speaker 1: you know, what was like hard about reaching out for
Speaker 1: help in that case. And this is maybe just sounds dumb,
Speaker 1: but part of me like didn't want him to think
Speaker 1: I doubted him, So that makes sense, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't want him to think, oh mommy, not that he
Speaker 1: would even he doesn't even know what's going on, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Part of me just felt like reaching
Speaker 1: out for help and getting him like tutoring or speech
Speaker 1: therapy was like me doubting his own because I get it.
Speaker 1: And what's helped me so much with my journey through
Speaker 1: postpartum anxiety and depression has been really just giving in
Speaker 1: to him and giving into his own schedule, his own
Speaker 1: way of doing things, his own way of and it's
Speaker 1: just worked so beautifully. But I quickly have I not quickly,
Speaker 1: but I've gotten over that. I'm like, it can't hurt
Speaker 1: to get him into some kind of therapy. I just
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to him.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I've seen literally hundreds and hundreds and hundreds,
Speaker 2: if not thousands, of kids come through, and we've had kids.
Speaker 2: I've seen two year old girls and boys who are
Speaker 2: just like Lisa. For example, my baby sister, she was
Speaker 2: so verbal. The doctor was like wait what, but remember
Speaker 2: she had four older chatty sisters who were like, what's
Speaker 2: the baby talk? Because I was ten, and I'm like, girl,
Speaker 2: first of all, what did I say?
Speaker 3: So Lisa she got basically and says some people are
Speaker 3: raised up. She was dragged up.
Speaker 2: And so that played a huge role in her ability
Speaker 2: to quickly get with the program because my mom, I
Speaker 2: always said, like we raised Lisa.
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm tired. This is number five. She belongs
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: Sure make sure she doesn't, you know, put her finger
Speaker 2: in the socket or like you know, eat, you know,
Speaker 2: eat dirt.
Speaker 3: That's those are those those are your parameters.
Speaker 2: So but then you have, like I said, my cousin,
Speaker 2: you know, he they were really worried because he was
Speaker 2: like five, and they were like, oh, okay, he doesn't
Speaker 2: he doesn't only say many words, and the words he's saying,
Speaker 2: he's having a hard time.
Speaker 3: And now literally I think he has two master's degrees.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I need to tell these stories. Y'all send
Speaker 1: us dms on Instagram, Prime Invention Podcast. I love, send
Speaker 1: me all your stories because I cannot hear enough of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can't hear enough.
Speaker 3: So it's just like, you know, and so I guess
Speaker 3: some people literally there's just delay for whatever reason. It's
Speaker 3: almost like have you ever seen kids who are really short.
Speaker 2: Even through high school, you kind of figure, well, you
Speaker 2: kind of this is your height, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they actually grow the inches in college because
Speaker 2: some people have like a growth delay, especially boys, and
Speaker 2: then their height doesn't come in until after eighteen, which
Speaker 2: is not unheard of, but it seems so weird because
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, people really developed, you know, at their
Speaker 2: own pace.
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you don't keep an eye.
Speaker 1: On it, like you.
Speaker 2: I mean you've met Roman, you see, like he's like
Speaker 2: the freaking boy genius. Carol was telling me she was
Speaker 2: like girl at school, they were like, does Roman speak?
Speaker 2: And she's like, I wouldn't know because he doesn't talk
Speaker 2: to me. I mean I was like really, She's like yeah, girl,
Speaker 2: She's like I was like wait, cause she's like he
Speaker 2: was my first so I didn't know when he was
Speaker 2: supposed to start talking. She just thought I was normal
Speaker 2: that he's like too and saying nothing. And it wasn't
Speaker 2: until Amelia came his sister. Then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: he had a lot to say because he was telling
Speaker 2: her where to go, what not to do.
Speaker 3: Yes, she was.
Speaker 2: She was really shocked, like wow, because you would think like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he's going to talk to mommy at home, and she
Speaker 2: said literally like Roman said nothing. They were worried about him,
Speaker 2: they wanted to get him evaluated, and he just was
Speaker 2: mute with them. And she's like, he barely said anything
Speaker 2: at home. And then Amelia came and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it was like stop, baby.
Speaker 1: Amelia, come here.
Speaker 2: She's like why you are exactly like wait, and so
Speaker 2: I just all got to say that, like there are
Speaker 2: so many reasons it could be and and it almost
Speaker 2: always fine.
Speaker 1: I know it'll end up fine. He's just so damn
Speaker 1: smart and so observant like this this child. He was
Speaker 1: begging to get for me to pick him up while
Speaker 1: I was making dinner the other day and I gave him.
Speaker 1: I dragged his little stool around and I was like, here,
Speaker 1: watch mama make this squacamole.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He took. I was like, can you shake? Shake the
Speaker 1: salt shaker over the over the bowl. He reached for
Speaker 1: a lemon witch and said, Mama, we need a little acidity.
Speaker 1: And he squeezed that lemon like he's been watching Ina
Speaker 1: Garten on his tablet and not Pepa the pig, Like
Speaker 1: he just he's so smart and observant. And oh the
Speaker 1: other big thing is that he started daycare. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: been a week of daycare, so I'm really hopeful that
Speaker 1: between daycare being around other kids, and then it's free.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a free early intervention program, so I
Speaker 1: think it's a wonderful resource. I pay taxes, let me
Speaker 1: get some of this, you know, stuff that we pay for.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where I'm at. Anyway, you're back, what
Speaker 1: else has been going on? I'm a I'm a business owner.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, so, how does that be?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know we had our our you know,
Speaker 2: our our daytime two hour chat, and I was so
Speaker 2: excited for you. And I told you and anybody who's
Speaker 2: a business owner or thinking about being one, but if
Speaker 2: you've been in the game for at least two plus
Speaker 2: years or so, they everyone will all agree. Nothing grows
Speaker 2: you up, Manny, I'm telling you will be a brand
Speaker 2: new woman. I'm not even I'm like the timpany from
Speaker 2: ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I'm like, who is she? She's like my daughter?
Speaker 2: Like, nothing grows you up? I think like motherhood, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming and starting a business. It's what it pulls out
Speaker 2: of you. There's this uh what is his name is?
Speaker 3: Jim Ron? Remember I was telling me about Jim Roon.
Speaker 2: He's a he's passed away, but he was like a
Speaker 2: really famous, like motivational speaker.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
Speaker 3: One of the things he said to one of his.
Speaker 2: Mentees is he said, I think you ought to, you know,
Speaker 2: start a business and become a millionaire.
Speaker 3: And he was like why. He said, not for the money,
Speaker 3: but for what it will make of you. And that's
Speaker 3: exactly what it is for entrepreneurship. What it will make
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: You is just going to pull out the very best
Speaker 2: of you. It's going to challenge you in ways you
Speaker 2: didn't even think it possible. You're going to become like
Speaker 2: you're gotta feel like superwoman, Like how did I do this?
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for your journey. How are you feeling
Speaker 2: about it?
Speaker 1: You know when you were talking about Chip and Joanna
Speaker 1: doing ninety percent of the work and then they got
Speaker 1: the TV show. I think the past six weeks or
Speaker 1: how long has it been, like a little over a
Speaker 1: month that I have been Mandy Money Media LLC. Since
Speaker 1: I launched my business, it has been the most exciting,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, the most exciting, invigorating, affirming experience
Speaker 1: that I've ever had. I mean it, just the work
Speaker 1: has been flooding Tiffany, like I am busy, like people
Speaker 1: want to work with me, and I've realized that it's
Speaker 1: not like when I start I started a business that
Speaker 1: I was starting from scratch. I have a decade long
Speaker 1: career in media and in reporting and in content, and
Speaker 1: I've been an entrepreneur where we launched Brown Ambition.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was a nine to five entrepreneur when we launched
Speaker 1: Brown Ambition. And for me, it's just been I feel
Speaker 1: I feel excited. I feel kind of like, man, I
Speaker 1: really I can't wait to see what happens to her
Speaker 1: as in me, like I can't wait to see where
Speaker 1: she goes. I feel this, I feel this new sense
Speaker 1: of drive and purpose and this and it just feels
Speaker 1: so it feels so right. It's just like I'm exactly
Speaker 1: where I need to be. I'm so proud of the
Speaker 1: work that I've done so far for other companies and
Speaker 1: for all the amazing people that I've worked with. I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful for those opportunities, some of them I'm still
Speaker 1: working with now. You know, either as a consultant or
Speaker 1: as a freelancer, and that's also wonderful, and I just
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for all that experience and I am
Speaker 1: beyond ready for this new chapter. So y'all can find
Speaker 1: me on TikTok. Yes, I have been leaning into TikTok.
Speaker 1: I'm figuring it out, like you can find me at
Speaker 1: Mandy Money on TikTok and and everywhere else. And you
Speaker 1: know my real focus. And and look, Tiffany, if you
Speaker 1: had listened to the show months ago, you might have
Speaker 1: heard a very different tune from me talking about where
Speaker 1: I was at in my career at that time. And
Speaker 1: I have been getting messages from some listeners wanting to know,
Speaker 1: you know, what happened. This is a big change. I
Speaker 1: just want to let you guys know that I've really
Speaker 1: had this moment of aha when it came to what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do and what I wanted to contribute
Speaker 1: to the world, and I really realized that what I
Speaker 1: want to contribute it can't be contained working for any
Speaker 1: one place. That was the right decision for me, and
Speaker 1: so I started my own business just to really be
Speaker 1: a complete control of what work I'm doing and what
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying my own voice, and that
Speaker 1: has been such a positive impact on me. On top
Speaker 1: of that, have you guys heard of Brown Ambition, Like
Speaker 1: I plan, I really do plan to take the other
Speaker 1: you know, fifty percent of my time or more and
Speaker 1: really focus on continuing to build and grow our Brown
Speaker 1: Ambition audience. So you guys will be seeing a newsletter
Speaker 1: from us, you may be seeing some live events from
Speaker 1: us in the future. I'm going to have so much
Speaker 1: more bandwidth and I never could, you know, give to
Speaker 1: Brown Ambition now that I'm on my own and in
Speaker 1: complete control of my schedule and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: like flex here. What I'm trying to do is just
Speaker 1: explain to people what can happen when you I don't
Speaker 1: know if you had this experience too, but when you go,
Speaker 1: when you go solo, you the the possibility like there
Speaker 1: is no limit to your earning.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a girl, I'm I'm I'm not moving over
Speaker 2: the chair, like, come six to me. I don't told
Speaker 2: you girl, it's good open. Well, it's hard, it's hard,
Speaker 2: very wrong. But I took my six week break so
Speaker 2: I didn't die.
Speaker 1: But right that's where I want to be careful because
Speaker 1: I am all about like solopreneurship and doing my own
Speaker 1: thing now. But I had an amazing career and and
Speaker 1: this is the story that I'm trying to tell right now,
Speaker 1: is right when I started to launch my business, who
Speaker 1: did I call first, Helen? My financial planner? You know Helen?
Speaker 1: You guys have known prapped on the film with her,
Speaker 1: and I said, Helen, and my husband too. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of want to go independent. What
Speaker 1: do you think? And she said, Mandy, let me show
Speaker 1: you something. And she pulled up a spreadsheet with our
Speaker 1: finances up on the screen. Over the past five years
Speaker 1: that she and I have been working together, I have
Speaker 1: ten exed my net worth from seventy K to seven
Speaker 1: hundred K in less than five years. She said, Mandy,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine. You're gonna be fine, And that
Speaker 1: was really, you know, And I did that because I worked,
Speaker 1: and I had a career, and I had, you know,
Speaker 1: standard nine to five jobs, and for a bunch of
Speaker 1: other reasons that you know. I'm working on telling those stories.
Speaker 1: But I say all that to tell people that there
Speaker 1: is no one right path. It's not like entrepreneurship is
Speaker 1: some key to unlocking you know, millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: But it is the chapter that I'm starting right now.
Speaker 1: You know, ten years working for amazing companies did not
Speaker 1: do me wrong. I have built an incredible life and
Speaker 1: I've learned so so much. But yeah, I'm I'm, I'm
Speaker 1: really freaking excited for the next chapter.
Speaker 3: And oh, I can't wait to talk more business with you.
Speaker 2: One of the things I wreck I realized, like on
Speaker 2: my time away, of how much I actually enjoy like
Speaker 2: mentoring and talking to people about business because I used
Speaker 2: to be like, well, I'm not an expert, and I'm not,
Speaker 2: but I'm someone who is doing it, who has seen
Speaker 2: so many ups and downs. It's like year I mean,
Speaker 2: I started the business, started taking it seriously twenty ten,
Speaker 2: so it's been eleven years.
Speaker 3: But technically, really it's been thirteen.
Speaker 2: You know, the first two years I was still teaching preschool,
Speaker 2: so I really wasn't doing a bunch ofista.
Speaker 3: So really like eleven like real years, and you know, y'all.
Speaker 2: Know that last year we hit the our first eight
Speaker 2: eight figure year of just over ten million dollars in business.
Speaker 2: And so I've seen so many things and I'll say
Speaker 2: this was what I wish I would have known. And
Speaker 2: this is for anyone listening. What I have found is
Speaker 2: that when you're on the right path, and you're you know,
Speaker 2: you're trying something new, but it's the path you're supposed
Speaker 2: to be on the beginning, you get a I don't
Speaker 2: want to say, like a lucky strike. You get a
Speaker 2: lot of grace is given to you in the beginning
Speaker 2: because it's meant to say, you're on the right path,
Speaker 2: don't give up right here, right here. But and I,
Speaker 2: and like so many of us, make the mistake of
Speaker 2: thinking this is how it be.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 1: But so meaning, are you about to burst my honeymoon period?
Speaker 3: No, but look for this honeymoon period.
Speaker 2: I want you to lean in and get as much
Speaker 2: as basically, like you know, you've gotten what are those
Speaker 2: things called when they let you go first, like a
Speaker 2: like a like a golf or whatever they give you,
Speaker 2: like a what does that thing call on golf when
Speaker 2: they give it me, or like extra points or like
Speaker 2: you know, you get to you get to if you're
Speaker 2: a squirrel, they let you into the park first before
Speaker 2: anybody else, you know, and then you know, so basically
Speaker 2: this is a really great time because it's one, this
Speaker 2: is a it's a clear indication that you're on the
Speaker 2: right path because of how things have been flowing. And
Speaker 2: two it means that lean in really hard, gain as
Speaker 2: much as you can now because the challenges will come,
Speaker 2: but they'll come because you've gotten good. Like I was
Speaker 2: talking to Tracy and my sister, you know, she's my publicist,
Speaker 2: and she's amazing, okay, but she just her business leelling
Speaker 2: what she's notty six figures her first year and she
Speaker 2: was telling me how like, you know, because now she's
Speaker 2: having her because she had her you know, her initial
Speaker 2: boost where it was okay, flowing. Now there's challenges And
Speaker 2: she said, what am I doing wrong? I'm like, girl,
Speaker 2: it's called business. And I said, she said, doesn't get easier.
Speaker 2: I said, no, it actually gets harder, but you get better.
Speaker 2: And so that's what will happen, is that you know,
Speaker 2: initially you'll have this honeymoon phase and period. It might
Speaker 2: last six months of that last year might last longer,
Speaker 2: and then you will meet with challenges because you're growing
Speaker 2: and it's just growing pains. And one of the one
Speaker 2: of the huge takeaways that I got from reading Joanna
Speaker 2: said something specific that she learned from Chip, But it
Speaker 2: was read all the success stories I was reading in
Speaker 2: these biographies or memoirs. It was repeated over and over,
Speaker 2: just with different legers. But I felt like she said
Speaker 2: it best when she first met Chip. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't I think you could tell if you guys watch
Speaker 2: Fix Her Upper reruns or whatever you watched it before,
Speaker 2: you could tell that Joe, it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: safety girl, you know, Like, I don't think that's such
Speaker 2: a good idea. She's the She's the Chucky to Chips Tommy,
Speaker 2: if you will, if you watch rug Grats, like, she's
Speaker 2: the little like I air on the cautious side, which
Speaker 2: is my nature and the nature of many women. And
Speaker 2: what she found that that Chip was the opposite. Chip
Speaker 2: was like, let's jump out the window and hope our
Speaker 2: parachute opens up. And he would make decisions that would
Speaker 2: put them in like financial peril every it seemed like
Speaker 2: every few months. And she said in the beginning, just
Speaker 2: when she said they felt she felt they got their
Speaker 2: footing whatever new project that he had come up with, because.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't tell her, he'd be like surprised, I'm on
Speaker 3: a houseboat. We're in def for three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: What's you think?
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 2: Every few months she would find herself bawling and be
Speaker 2: like Chip, why, and she was like, you know, but
Speaker 2: then they would figure it out, and they would grow
Speaker 2: to the next level.
Speaker 3: Figure it out and grow to the next level. And
Speaker 3: she said she realized that Chip was.
Speaker 2: Always going to be Chip, and that she had to
Speaker 2: learn to increase her capacity for challenges, increase her capacity
Speaker 2: for failure. You have to learn to increase your capacity,
Speaker 2: because what will happen is it's very easy to stay safe,
Speaker 2: but if you want to be great, you're going to
Speaker 2: have to accept that this thing.
Speaker 3: Might not work.
Speaker 2: You might fail in spectacular fashion, or it might work
Speaker 2: in a way that you never imagine. You don't get
Speaker 2: to seven then figures and eight figures and maybe even
Speaker 2: nine figures or more one day without expanding you know
Speaker 2: what you're capable of and jumping forward and failing and
Speaker 2: so like, yeah, I just give you that advice that like,
Speaker 2: you know, right now things are really great because they
Speaker 2: ought to be, because you are now reaping what you've
Speaker 2: sown over the last ten years. But now you are
Speaker 2: also simultaneously sowing what you will reap in the next
Speaker 2: ten So just keep that in mind. But I'm super
Speaker 2: excited for you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for those pearls of wisdom. You can sign
Speaker 1: me up. I'll be your first mentee. I've been I've
Speaker 1: been your mentee all this time. It feels like to well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've more to come, y'all, just just hang out. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about this new this new chapter, and I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna mean big things for Brown Ambition as well.
Speaker 1: I just feel like this brand that we've built together
Speaker 1: in the past six years is just getting started. They
Speaker 1: call us. I feel like we're old ladies in this
Speaker 1: whole podcasting game. But y'all better all these new these
Speaker 1: young's coming out and post quarantine, like, y'all better watch out,
Speaker 1: watch out for Brown Ambition. We are here and that's
Speaker 1: in large part to our listeners too, So thank y'all
Speaker 1: for always supporting us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, honestly, it's been like an amazing ribe. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be trying some new things with y'all, connecting with y'all
Speaker 2: in new ways, hopefully seeing some of y'all in Parson.
Speaker 3: So like, watch out for some of the announcements. That's
Speaker 3: announcements that we will come up.
Speaker 2: We're just really excited to just connect even further and
Speaker 2: just hear from y'all and pour right back into y'all.
Speaker 3: So you've poured into us.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Tiffany's back.
Speaker 2: Wow, it feels so good to be back. I am
Speaker 2: a little rusty. But I do recall that we have
Speaker 2: a thing called boost break.
Speaker 1: Is that still a thing? Yeah, we still do that
Speaker 1: around here.
Speaker 3: So I have a boost. So I bought a company.
Speaker 1: Hello, Yes, so I wanted okay, yes, yes, yes, tell
Speaker 1: me tell us about it.
Speaker 2: So I have an idea for a company, and and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it light from now. But but it's
Speaker 2: really it's nothing like you know, like crazy. I don't
Speaker 2: have like I'm not curing cancer. But I have an
Speaker 2: idea for like a company that will really help you guys,
Speaker 2: like find the tools and resources you need more easily.
Speaker 2: And so I've been thinking about this for a while.
Speaker 2: And then right before I left, literally the day before
Speaker 2: I left, I saw that somebody was selling their company
Speaker 2: and they had a girl. I didn't even tell you why,
Speaker 2: Remember I told you they had two hundred thousand followers
Speaker 2: on Insta, Girl, why didn't I come back?
Speaker 3: They have two seventy now, yes, so they knew they did.
Speaker 2: They have a huge Instagram. We have five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: a budget lista, but two seventy is huge. And then
Speaker 2: they have Twitter and Instagram and they have they have
Speaker 2: a Facebook group.
Speaker 3: They have all these resources.
Speaker 2: And the gentleman that was selling it's a financial company
Speaker 2: specifically for black millennials. And the guy who was selling it,
Speaker 2: I he posted in my my black marketing group and
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I'm interested in learning more.
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh my god, I'm fan boiling boying.
Speaker 3: It's utivity. You're like the perfect person to buy. I
Speaker 3: hope you buy. I hope you buy it.
Speaker 2: So me and Maddy were talking about it with I
Speaker 2: was sharing with her that all the resources the company
Speaker 2: came with, and she was like, girl, my friend bought
Speaker 2: a company.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Of course it's the same, but those people wanted like
Speaker 2: a million dollars, and so we did not pay a
Speaker 2: million dollars, not even close.
Speaker 3: I just can't believe we were able to close the deal.
Speaker 2: Literally, right before I left, I told my COO, here's
Speaker 2: the max, Like, you know, I authorized you to negotiate
Speaker 2: with him, and we were able to get it to
Speaker 2: a price where it's like, wait, what it was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the cost of like a really really really lavish vacation,
Speaker 2: which think about that, that's not much at all. But
Speaker 2: he just was really happy to sell to someone who
Speaker 2: was going to not I'm not going to keep his
Speaker 2: particular company going, but instead we're going to transform it
Speaker 2: to the company that I already had in mind. So
Speaker 2: now we don't have to start from scratch, we can
Speaker 2: start from a higher playing field. So I'm just really
Speaker 2: really excited because something like a vision that has been
Speaker 2: coming to me over and over, Like I had a
Speaker 2: vision for like Get Go of Money came true New
Speaker 2: York Times bestseller is selling really well. I had a
Speaker 2: vision for a one wee budget like ten thirteen years
Speaker 2: ago now ride I wrote it, I said, it said
Speaker 2: to me that, like, You're going to be a millionaire because.
Speaker 3: Of this book. I assumed I'd sell enough books to
Speaker 3: become a millionaire.
Speaker 2: That did not happen, but it sparked a budgetista, Like,
Speaker 2: so all of my visions honestly have come true.
Speaker 3: Like I put on my vision board, like you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes you just get a feeling.
Speaker 2: And lately, this feeling that's been coming up is that
Speaker 2: I'm going to sell a company for over fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? It's like a stubborn doing it, Tiffany.
Speaker 2: But it's like this, like stubborn, like it's happening. I
Speaker 2: need you to get ready, and I'm like what. And
Speaker 2: so it's just been this stubborn vision that I just can't.
Speaker 2: Every day it pops up in my head and so
Speaker 2: I don't believe me. I don't know the first thing
Speaker 2: about how to do. So well, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I thought I didn't know the first thing. But I was.
Speaker 2: I take walks every day now, and something popped into
Speaker 2: my head when I was listening to one of my books,
Speaker 2: and it was like, well, the first thing would be
Speaker 2: maybe to find somebody who sold companies.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh yeah, and just ask questions.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, remember, you work for Magnify Money and Nick,
Speaker 2: who's like the coolest, sold Magnifi money to lending.
Speaker 1: Tree, right, yes, I was part of that sale.
Speaker 2: So you know, like, hey, maybe I'll get up Nick
Speaker 2: and say hey, how'd that go? And then I know
Speaker 2: other people who sold companies, and so that's my first
Speaker 2: order of business. So I'm going to share kind of
Speaker 2: like that process with y'allcause I'm literally starting from scratch.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how to sell a company.
Speaker 2: I've never done it before.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've brought one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So I'm excited about that because I want
Speaker 2: to be in a place and space where I am
Speaker 2: truly working. You know, not that I say I couldn't
Speaker 2: retire now, but I could, but I want to retire
Speaker 2: in a way that like, I'm not just retiring myself mentally, but.
Speaker 3: I know, like my kids, kids' kids.
Speaker 2: So I want to work from a space where I'm
Speaker 2: literally saying no to everything except for the things I
Speaker 2: really enjoy because I'm not working, you know, to think
Speaker 2: about money.
Speaker 3: And I don't worry.
Speaker 2: About money anymore, but it's still on my mind and
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to say no. Plus too,
Speaker 2: I want to be able to do a profit share
Speaker 2: with my team because they have put so much work
Speaker 2: to be able to. I mean, I don't know, depending
Speaker 2: how much the company sells for, it might retire some
Speaker 2: folks at the very least pay off some high student
Speaker 2: loan debts and reset your life. So I'm really excited
Speaker 2: about what that kind of money can do for not
Speaker 2: only my family, but for my Unicorn Squad family. I
Speaker 2: want to build a hospital like for my DreamCatcher family,
Speaker 2: for my BA family. I'm really excited about because that's coming.
Speaker 2: It could be in ten, fifteen years, it could be
Speaker 2: in five months, it could be in five years. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I do know that that's coming. So
Speaker 2: I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've just given like the I don't know,
Speaker 1: commencement address that we all needed for the summer, for
Speaker 1: the the for the year, for this year to come,
Speaker 1: this new new year. What it feels like post pandemic, Well,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to well. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to ever go to your hospital because I don't want
Speaker 1: to be sick, but I would love to talk about
Speaker 1: your hospital in the future. And I mean, the bigger
Speaker 1: you dream it just makes every it makes me, It
Speaker 1: makes everyone listening just feel like anything is possible that
Speaker 1: you can dream up. And no, I don't think fifty
Speaker 1: million poles fifty billion, that would be a stretchful for you.
Speaker 2: You'll be I.
Speaker 1: So my I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a Brown break,
Speaker 1: just a balance out. There's way too much just you know,
Speaker 1: levity and awesomeness in black girl magic happening right now.
Speaker 1: So let's take it down a notch. Have you heard
Speaker 1: about Wendy Williams going off on this woman. I don't
Speaker 1: even think she knows this. This actress named Tabitha Brown,
Speaker 1: who I don't know if she shared a video on
Speaker 1: social media or wrote an article, but she was celebrating
Speaker 1: the fact that she has now become so successful that
Speaker 1: she has been able to retire her husband Chance from
Speaker 1: his job as a Los Angeles police officer. And Wendy Williams,
Speaker 1: who she is. I mean, Wendy Williams is like a
Speaker 1: character unto herself. I'm not going to pretend that I
Speaker 1: watch her show every day because.
Speaker 3: She's a professional troll.
Speaker 1: She's she's special, Okay. And she went on her show
Speaker 1: and went off about Tabitha and basically projected the failure
Speaker 1: of her own marriage. You know, she had like a
Speaker 1: very public divorce, basically saying that this is the worst
Speaker 1: thing that Tabitha could have done, that it's going to
Speaker 1: ruin her relationship, and that it would end up just
Speaker 1: going down in flames, and I cringe so hard because,
Speaker 1: for one thing, it's nothing to be ashamed of for
Speaker 1: a man to leave his job and to be quote
Speaker 1: unquote retired by a wife. I think that should be celebrated.
Speaker 1: And it's also like, why would you you don't know
Speaker 1: anything about this woman, Why would you project your own
Speaker 1: failure onto her when ultimately it's up to ours, It's
Speaker 1: up to us, you know how our relationships work out,
Speaker 1: and you never know what's going on in anybody's marriage.
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely beautiful that in order to it's
Speaker 1: not even about repaying him for what he gave her,
Speaker 1: but if you actually listen to the story, you know
Speaker 1: clearly he supported her in her career for a long
Speaker 1: long like years, many years, maybe even decades of time together,
Speaker 1: and he has his own passions to pursue. And she
Speaker 1: was saying, listen, we are good. You can let you
Speaker 1: can let go of this job that you've kept for security,
Speaker 1: for the security of this family, and you were able
Speaker 1: to pursue your passions in career. I'm like, what could
Speaker 1: be what's more beautiful than that in our partnership?
Speaker 2: What Because you know, Wendy is so so like I
Speaker 2: for the six weeks, I wasn't on social but I
Speaker 2: think my friend told me about it, so like I
Speaker 2: googled it and I saw, like, you know, Wendy saying
Speaker 2: what she said and so back because you know, I
Speaker 2: love teeth. So background on Wendy's marriage. She her husband Kevin,
Speaker 2: has been trashed for a long time. Like I remember
Speaker 2: when Wendy was like for those you especially on the
Speaker 2: East Coast, child, Wendy was like we all listened to
Speaker 2: Wendy on the radio show on radio, she was captivating
Speaker 2: and her husband was trashed.
Speaker 3: Then she had written this book called Wendy's.
Speaker 2: Got the Heat where her son, who is now twenty,
Speaker 2: her husband cheated on her while she was pregnant, even
Speaker 2: though they had a hard time getting pregnant. So he's
Speaker 2: been trashed and you know, just not a really nice
Speaker 2: guy and there's been allegations of physical abuse and things.
Speaker 2: And so just a few years ago, I don't know
Speaker 2: who Wendy pissed off at the Daily Mail because I
Speaker 2: thought the Daily Mail was out of like the UK,
Speaker 2: But they did a one year long expose that they
Speaker 2: had been study they had been following Wendy's husband he
Speaker 2: had a whole other woman that he brought a house
Speaker 2: for like three like in the same neighborhood as his
Speaker 2: house with Wendy car for and they had a child.
Speaker 2: Literally he was but basically married to two women. And
Speaker 2: so when the xpose came out, that's why Wendy ended.
Speaker 3: Up divorcing him. I don't believe she really wanted to.
Speaker 2: But when the whole world knew like what he also
Speaker 2: has like a whole nother wife what, it was really
Speaker 2: embarrassing for her. And she actually because Wendy used to
Speaker 2: well I don't know, she's still she was an addict,
Speaker 2: and so she actually ended up being hospitalized. She she
Speaker 2: took it really hard, so to be kind in that respect,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know you know Wendy or like
Speaker 2: what she's going through, but I guess she attributes what
Speaker 2: happened to her marriage because she, you know, was the
Speaker 2: main breadwinner in you know, her family.
Speaker 3: But from when I understand he did actually manage her.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, but Tad did what they call
Speaker 2: a sanctified read a read honey, but let me tell
Speaker 2: you something, don't.
Speaker 3: Be fooled by ms.
Speaker 2: Tad was like, let me gather you together real quick
Speaker 2: under the name of Jesus.
Speaker 3: Okay, she read Wendy for filth. She said, Wendy, I
Speaker 3: know you so hurt. Girl. I pray that you have
Speaker 3: a marriage, that somebody loves you enough.
Speaker 2: Basically, she was basically saying, girl, don't be mad because
Speaker 2: he don't want you. But she ain't say it like that,
Speaker 2: but it was like, honestly, it was really beautiful. But
Speaker 2: it was definitely a sanctified read. And Tad explained, which
Speaker 2: she didn't have to. But you know, I'm glad that,
Speaker 2: you know, for the larger audience, and you know, people
Speaker 2: get a better understanding.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 2: When they first I don't know where they're from. She's
Speaker 2: from down south somewhere. But when they first moved to
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. She's always wanted to be an actress. And
Speaker 2: she told her husband, if you allow me, I just
Speaker 2: give me five years. I want to quit my job
Speaker 2: and just do try this acting. Think please, five years
Speaker 2: maybe that's all I need. If it doesn't work out,
Speaker 2: I'll get a job and we just you know, we
Speaker 2: just both working. He said, okay, girl. Fifteen years later,
Speaker 2: this man she had not found anything, but she was.
Speaker 2: He held up that agreement. I will take care of
Speaker 2: the family. You try your dream, She said, what would
Speaker 2: I look like after fifteen years? He held, you know,
Speaker 2: there were things he wanted to do and couldn't. He
Speaker 2: put his life on the line as as a Los
Speaker 2: Angeles police officer for fifteen years so she could pursue
Speaker 2: her dreams and it finally worked. Of course, she was like, babe,
Speaker 2: I don't want you to put your life on the
Speaker 2: line anymore. Every day could be the day he doesn't
Speaker 2: come back. And she said that, so I thought it
Speaker 2: was absolutely beautiful. He already coaches kids, apparently, and he
Speaker 2: has a nonprofit that he hasn't been able to dedicate
Speaker 2: as much time too, and now he can do that
Speaker 2: and coach even more kids. He seems like an amazing man.
Speaker 3: Ivy.
Speaker 2: They've been married for like twenty three years, so you know,
Speaker 2: she's like, girl, we have been through. She's like, me
Speaker 2: and my husband have together and we was broke, broke, broke,
Speaker 2: she said, we've been broke longer than we've had money.
Speaker 2: We only had money in the last year or so.
Speaker 2: So we good, Wendy, don't worry about us. And so
Speaker 2: I just want to give some backstory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that. I thought I was breaking
Speaker 1: news for you coming at I'm like, I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: Tiffany what's been happening on these year internets since she's
Speaker 1: been gone. Meanwhile, you told me more than I anyway,
Speaker 1: Just stop showing me up. I gotta bring my hay
Speaker 1: game anyway. No, but let me just like this is
Speaker 1: this is what Tiffany and I. Maybe you agree, but
Speaker 1: my marriage would not work if there were two Mandy's.
Speaker 1: It would go down in flames. I'm talking about it.
Speaker 1: Off the rails. I am Chip. When you talked about
Speaker 1: Chip and Joanna, I am Chip. Okay, I am like, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quit this really well paying job and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask this company to pay me twice as much
Speaker 1: salary plus a sign on bonus. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: for Okay. Could be cool with that, babe, Okay? Sure?
Speaker 1: Like he's My husband has always been very stable, very steady.
Speaker 1: You know, he works for the government, he has his pension.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just he's got the healthcare. I couldn't
Speaker 1: do what I'm doing now. He has given me the freedom,
Speaker 1: he's given me trust, and he's given me the space
Speaker 1: that I need to just figure my shit out. And
Speaker 1: he is providing healthcare, and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: I don't want to even try to pretend like I
Speaker 1: am paying for health care right now. We are very
Speaker 1: fortunate to have his healthcare in this country right now.
Speaker 1: In the US, it is hard to start a business
Speaker 1: and go out on your own unless you have a
Speaker 1: partner you can provide health care. So let's not get
Speaker 1: that twisted. Yes, and you've talked about that with Superman
Speaker 1: as well, so please, but you.
Speaker 2: Why don't I always say, like my husban's always an
Speaker 2: old bab. I'm like, are you serious, sir? You know
Speaker 2: we do IVF right, We have probably spent at minimum
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars is what would have cost us
Speaker 2: to do as many rounds of IVF.
Speaker 3: If I've done, I have paid ten dollars of copay.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: Ten dollars. And I'm just like, yo, his you know, like, well,
Speaker 2: because my husband still works with what he brings to
Speaker 2: the table, Like it's just the stability, the safe place,
Speaker 2: the land, you know, the but like and the healthcare shoe.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna lie. Until we got married, it
Speaker 2: was yoga and water and I was like, please, Lord,
Speaker 2: don't let me get sick for real, for real, I mean, so,
Speaker 2: I mean, I commend anybody who's going out there doing
Speaker 2: you know, who's entrepreneur on their own. I know, the
Speaker 2: first probably six or seven years of my entrepreneur journey
Speaker 2: was without without insurance.
Speaker 3: And it's scary, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and so absolutely you know, so yeah, I just so,
Speaker 2: I just say all that to say that my husband
Speaker 2: and I told them when we were getting together. I said,
Speaker 2: let's make a rule that we we follow our own rules,
Speaker 2: like if you know, like if you want to cook.
Speaker 3: And I don't, that's our rule.
Speaker 2: The outside world doesn't get to say no sisters, no brothers,
Speaker 2: no moms, no dads.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't have to share with them.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you know, secretly, this is how we
Speaker 2: do things because if it works for us, let it
Speaker 2: work for us, because people will have you feel bad
Speaker 2: because I used to travel a lot, and when we
Speaker 2: got married, his friends while you're still letting your wife travel.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, I we were traveling when I
Speaker 3: when we were dating, and so he was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I feel comfortable. I'm like, babe, we
Speaker 3: dated for you know, like three years and I traveled
Speaker 3: way more. Don't let those people get in your head, Okay,
Speaker 3: because guess what, I'm still getting on the plane. So yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: so you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you have a relationship, whatever works for you,
Speaker 2: it's what works for you.
Speaker 3: There is no there's no society norms that you have
Speaker 3: to adhere to.
Speaker 2: You. You really get to decide what your relationship looks like,
Speaker 2: and it's best to keep most things to yourself. Like
Speaker 2: if you notice, I don't post Superman like like I
Speaker 2: used to, Like I used to do this whole thing
Speaker 2: about Superman and Supergirl, and you no, I don't do
Speaker 2: that as much anymore, just because I never got any
Speaker 2: negative feedback. But as I get you know, as I
Speaker 2: get older, I just realized I just want, you know,
Speaker 2: some things for us us, and I also too don't
Speaker 2: want to because social media can be toxic. I think
Speaker 2: we all know that, and s Week's all social media.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize just how toxic it could be when
Speaker 2: I started to just feel better, Like social media will
Speaker 2: literally have you feeling bad about a good life, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, let me not throw like my relationship into
Speaker 2: the stinky stew of social media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just lived that for yourselves. I completely agree.
Speaker 1: So shout out to Tab I'm recalling I I can
Speaker 1: call her Tab too. Shout out to Tab at the
Speaker 1: Brown for reading. Wendy Williams. Wendy Williams, please sit down,
Speaker 1: you know, work on whatever you know. I agree you
Speaker 1: feel pain if you're protecting that onto someone else's marriage.
Speaker 1: But we only know the story that we are writing ourselves.
Speaker 1: We cannot expect anyone else to understand it. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I could meant anyone for sharing. And we do a
Speaker 1: lot in our show. We share a lot about ourselves,
Speaker 1: and that does that does open us up to critique
Speaker 1: and to questioning, and that's the choice that we've made.
Speaker 1: But I will say emphatically, I could not be the
Speaker 1: success that I am financially, career wise, anything. And who
Speaker 1: knows where I'll be without my husband and his job,
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the stability, and his faith
Speaker 1: in me and his support and his little shrug and
Speaker 1: a sigh like Okay, I guess we're doing this now,
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's all I need. A shrug and
Speaker 1: a sigh, you know what I mean? All Right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank y'all for rocking with us. Thank you Tiffany for
Speaker 1: coming back. I'm so glad that you Eat Prey Love
Speaker 1: Hiatus did not also include Man that podcast. I don't
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Speaker 3: Bye,