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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Men

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to sit

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Speaker 1: down with defensive coordinator zach Or. Zach, it was about

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Speaker 1: a year ago that you sat down with us, fresh

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Speaker 1: off getting hired to the job. So you know, just

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Speaker 1: what was the past year like for you? Man?

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Speaker 2: It was a whirlwind. It was a whirlwind. It was fun,

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Speaker 2: it was exciting. It had up and downs, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: it was good.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It was a good, real, good learning experience as a man,

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Speaker 2: as a coach, and I'm just excited for this next year.

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Speaker 2: But it definitely was from the last time I sat

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Speaker 2: in here and talked to you guys to this point now,

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Speaker 2: a lot a lot of transpire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the worst part of the job, having

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Speaker 1: to answer questions from us every Thursday during the season.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely was a lot more job, right, That was

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Speaker 2: one of the best parts. It was a lot more

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Speaker 2: difficult things to handle besides that, So.

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Speaker 3: Was the biggest takeaway for you? Like when you look

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Speaker 3: back at what you learned the highs and lows, Like,

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Speaker 3: what's the biggest thing you're taking away from your first

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Speaker 2: My biggest thing is is just keep on staying with

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Speaker 2: the process, man, Keep staying with the process, and you know,

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Speaker 2: stick to what you know, stick to what you do,

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Speaker 2: whether it's you know, it's on the field or off

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Speaker 2: the field. But you know, obviously you can make changes

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Speaker 2: to it. But I think that's the thing that we did,

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Speaker 2: especially where we started out on defense to where we finished,

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Speaker 2: we stuck to the process.

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Speaker 4: May we stuck to who we were.

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Speaker 2: We made changes when they need to be made, whether

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Speaker 2: it was scheme, personnel, but we never are principles that

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Speaker 2: we stand on never changed. I think that's what ultimately

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Speaker 2: helped us get to get.

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Speaker 4: On the right track of things.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious you talk about those changes that were made,

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Speaker 1: and obviously the personnel changes made a big difference. You know,

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Speaker 1: you finished the year down the stretch, you were the

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Speaker 1: best defense in the league, right And you talk about

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Speaker 1: scheme also, and I know at mid season you were

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Speaker 1: kind of talking about simplifying things a little bit. Can

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Speaker 1: you just take us a little bit more into what

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Speaker 1: those changes were, how they impact the defense, and then

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Speaker 1: any lessons learned from that that now you carry forward

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Speaker 1: to this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it start offs a little

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Speaker 2: bit with just eliminating as much communication as possible, whether

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Speaker 2: that's me to row Kwan and then from the players

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Speaker 2: to the players, just getting to a lot of the

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Speaker 2: same things, but just eliminating words and just let the

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Speaker 2: guys have one or two words they say. Everybody knows

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Speaker 2: what front, what coverage, what adjustments we're in, and then

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Speaker 2: go from there. And then I think also as well

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Speaker 2: as Man got we got great players and we were

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Speaker 2: able to play man and play some spot drop, let

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Speaker 2: guys play fast, and the players took ownership in that

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Speaker 2: and did that. So I think that's the main things

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Speaker 2: that took took place from a scheme standpoint, is allowing

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Speaker 2: our guys to go out there and communicate fast, and

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Speaker 2: then just calling more defenses where they can go out

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Speaker 1: Like fewer zone coverages and disguises and those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: Was actually still able to get to our disguises. We

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Speaker 2: just still disguise. The disguises never changed, but just as

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Speaker 2: far as what type of coverages.

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Speaker 4: We were playing behind the disguise is just a little simpler.

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Speaker 3: This is technical, but when you're calling a play in

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Speaker 3: to Roquan and this is maybe where it was shortened up.

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Speaker 3: I mean, did you literally just shorten up what you're

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Speaker 3: out to the rest of the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just shortening up the callee to say this is

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Speaker 4: Now, you know, you appreciate the players because it put maybe.

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Speaker 2: More learning on them on the front end during the week,

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Speaker 2: but at least on game they allowed them to go

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm curious what last year, especially when you go

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Speaker 3: back to middle of the season, it was. It was

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Speaker 3: that's in this job, and like, of course you feel

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Speaker 3: the pressure and know like the stakes of it, and

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Speaker 3: did you personally handle that challenge at that time?

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Speaker 2: Man, it was I handled like I think I handled

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Speaker 2: everything else in my life, and just always preach and

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Speaker 2: talk about it. We talk about that all the time

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Speaker 2: here and in our defensive room. Is just adversity's gonna

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Speaker 2: You're gonna face adversity, whether it's in football or it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be in life. And we always talk about the

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Speaker 2: true testament of a man or human being is how

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Speaker 2: do you handle adversity when it strikes? Are you gonna

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously nobody wants to face adversity. We

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Speaker 2: and I think that was opportunity. We flipped the It's

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Speaker 2: all about the mindset. You can be like why is

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Speaker 2: this happening, or how we're gonna make this a great story?

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Speaker 2: And I think the players, the coaches, everybody in the

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Speaker 2: and let's finish strong, let's finish in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: let's be one of the top defenses in the league

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Speaker 2: down the stretch, and let everybody talk about what a

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Speaker 2: great story it was instead of just you know, feel

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Speaker 1: And you did that. I mean we wrote those stories,

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Speaker 1: We talked about that story. Yeah, I'm curious. You know

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Speaker 1: it's a tough spot also to have to make those

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Speaker 1: personnel changes, right, Like, that's that's not easy, especially for

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Speaker 1: our first year coordinator. Can you talk about that process

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Speaker 1: and then the players having your back in that process?

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Speaker 1: I think how much that meant to you.

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Speaker 2: I think just the processes every single every single week.

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Speaker 4: Man, It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Like we tell the guys and they know this, we

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Speaker 2: evaluate the team every single day, honestly, and then every

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Speaker 2: single week we look at the big picture, and with

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Speaker 2: And we felt like those changes we made were changes

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Speaker 2: your question is with the players. I mean it feel good, man,

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Speaker 2: because ultimately we talk about it being a brotherhood, right

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Speaker 4: That's how all our coaches are.

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Speaker 2: We're here to serve the players, and just for the

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Speaker 2: players to have the coaches back. They didn't have to

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Speaker 2: do that, but for them to have our back. It

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Speaker 2: felt good. Man, It really felt us connected. And I

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Speaker 2: think that when you're connected as a group, anything you're

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Speaker 2: it's a group project, if everybody on the same page,

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Speaker 4: And I think we were able to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be cool to see in that whole scenario,

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Speaker 1: a special feeling for you.

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Speaker 2: It definitely a special feeling because Ad is a perfect

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Speaker 2: couple years ago, he's done well. And you watch him

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Speaker 2: And we tell guys all the time, you never know

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Speaker 3: I'm curious for you. You obviously have the experience of

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Speaker 3: you became a coach. You were sitting with the coaches,

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Speaker 3: to have some real conversations with players. I'm curious how

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Speaker 3: And then also, as you're a coordinator, does that transition

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Speaker 3: continue even more from like, I'm not a position coach anymore,

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Speaker 3: and then I that even changes my relationship even more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for the first part of your question,

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Speaker 2: I think the benefit of me being a player, I

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Speaker 2: from players was bad feedback from from a player's standpoint.

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Speaker 2: So I try to use those situations and incorporate it

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Speaker 2: You know, they just want you to be honest. And

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Speaker 2: do that. And then the second part of it is

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Speaker 2: the relationship has you know, I wouldn't say it's changed

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Speaker 2: to be more intentional with my relationship because I'm not

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Speaker 2: in the position rooms. I'm not around them as much

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Speaker 2: with those guys. They're more willing to kind of talk

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Speaker 2: to you, you know more as a position coach, as

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Speaker 2: Love or I see a guy walking in the hallway,

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Speaker 2: So right now the focus for us is it's like

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Speaker 3: You mentioned calling the game like last year when we

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's fun, it's fun.

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Speaker 2: Let the players go out there and go play like

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Speaker 4: Sheeat, No, we have all the calls are good cause.

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Speaker 4: So get the call in.

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Speaker 1: He's a good blitzer, he's physical, all those things. Should

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Speaker 1: you view that in the same light if you want

441
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Speaker 1: another corner to help him be versatile?

442
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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, for sure that I think a third safety

443
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 2: and the third corner is real valuable position, especially in

444
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 2: our system, just from the standpoint that it allows our

445
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: guys to move around freely and allows them to be

446
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 2: able to move around based on an opponent that we're playing.

447
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 4: And like Marlin, he's a guy who can play.

448
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 2: If you need them to play in the slot and

449
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 2: play at the nickel position, he can do that. He

450
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 2: was All Pro at that position. If you need to

451
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Speaker 2: play on the outside, depending on who you're playing, he

452
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,400
Speaker 2: can do that.

453
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 4: He's an all Pro at that position.

454
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Speaker 2: So just those different chess pieces allows us to do

455
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Speaker 2: so much on defense, and it's the players that make happen.

456
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Speaker 2: Like the two guys you named are two of the

457
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Speaker 2: best player in the league, and I can name that.

458
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: I can do that for Roquan Smith. I can say

459
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Speaker 2: the same thing for Justin Matta b K. Really, all

460
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Speaker 2: those guys up front, you see our guys up front,

461
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: they line up over the tackle, over the guards, over

462
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Speaker 2: the center, our interior guys, and our edge guys. So

463
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Speaker 2: I think that's the beauty of how you know, Eric

464
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Speaker 2: and those guys have built this team is we have

465
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Speaker 2: a lot of versatile players, not guys who can only

466
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Speaker 2: play one position, which which makes it great for us

467
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Speaker 2: as coaches.

468
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Speaker 1: What did you see from Nate Wiggins in year one?

469
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Speaker 1: When you go back and look at his season in totality,

470
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Speaker 1: how much did he grow throughout the course.

471
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Speaker 4: Of the year. They grew so much, man, he grew

472
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Speaker 4: so much. Loved.

473
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Speaker 2: Like I just was talking at lunch today, I'm shocked

474
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Speaker 2: that he went thirty. They dropped to thirty. And I

475
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Speaker 2: remember he came on his visit. We told him, He's like, look, man,

476
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Speaker 2: if you sitting there, I doubt you'll be there at thirty.

477
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Speaker 2: But if you there, we might have to move some

478
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Speaker 2: furniture to make sure that you were Baltimore. But everybody

479
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 2: was on the same page and we got him and

480
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 2: so we knew he was talented.

481
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Speaker 4: New you know the football, all cares. They love football.

482
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: Competitor, he was gonna be a heck of a player,

483
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: but you saw its growth. It's always a learning curve

484
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: man for a rookie when they come into the league,

485
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Speaker 2: especially at that position. To me, he's out there at

486
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Speaker 2: the outside corner position. You're on that island a lot

487
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: of times, you're gonna end up being on a lot

488
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Speaker 2: of top top receivers.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a covering CD Lamb. Welcome to the NFL. And

490
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 4: he understood, like the speed of the game.

491
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Speaker 2: He was able to adapt to the speed of the

492
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Speaker 2: game and how important technique was, how important you have

493
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Speaker 2: to play with technique every single play.

494
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Speaker 4: Like all of us you played college football.

495
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Speaker 2: If you make it to this level nine times and

496
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: ten you were better than the man across from you.

497
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Speaker 2: So you can get away with a lot of different things.

498
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Speaker 2: And it's like every rookie he saw that, I can't

499
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Speaker 2: slip on my technique because no matter how talented I am,

500
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks are too good, the receivers are too good

501
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 2: that I'm either gonna get called for a flag, I'm

502
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Speaker 2: gonna give up a play. And once he realized that,

503
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: and he honed in on the technique. He got better

504
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: and better every single week, and that started in practice.

505
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: They're starting to practice in the classroom. He got better

506
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: every single week and you really started to see it

507
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: down the stretch man. He was really locked down for us.

508
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: He's a big, big piece of our team, our defense

509
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Speaker 2: going into year two, and we expect him to be

510
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 2: one of the best corners in National Football League. We

511
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Speaker 2: expect him to take that jump from year one to

512
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Speaker 2: year two, a real big jump, and he has the

513
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Speaker 2: ability and the talent to do it. So we got

514
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Speaker 2: it along with him. We have to help him, get

515
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Speaker 2: him get him there, and I'm confident we'll do that.

516
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Speaker 1: He's gonna be one hundred percent of the snaps kind

517
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Speaker 1: of guy out there outside.

518
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Speaker 2: Yes, I definitely feel that. I definitely feel that he's

519
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Speaker 2: going to be that guy.

520
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Speaker 1: It's exciting.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm curious also about the pass rushers. We're

522
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Speaker 3: kind of working our way around the defense. There's a

523
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Speaker 3: big conversation about the pass rusher. Do you add a

524
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Speaker 3: pass rusher and you're always looking to add at that position.

525
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Speaker 3: You on one hand, sure, it'd be great add more

526
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Speaker 3: pass rushers. That's always exciting. On the other hand, it's like, well,

527
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Speaker 3: the Ravens were second in the league in sacks last year.

528
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Speaker 3: You had two guys who were double digits and sacks

529
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Speaker 3: and van Ney and adafeo way, So how do you

530
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Speaker 3: view that pass rush conversation?

531
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Speaker 2: I mean, first thing is past Russ is important. You

532
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: definitely need you need guys who can go get the quarterback.

533
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: That is that is very important, right, You need guys

534
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Speaker 2: who can go get the quarterback.

535
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Speaker 4: You can never have too many of those guys. You

536
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: never can. I think the most important.

537
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Speaker 2: Thing though, is is you have to have a group

538
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Speaker 2: that can go get the quarterback.

539
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Speaker 4: It's it's not a guy who could win a one

540
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Speaker 4: on one.

541
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Speaker 2: You could win, you could beat You could be an

542
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Speaker 2: edge guy and beat the offensive tackle, but your three

543
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: technique he doesn't middle push, he doesn't cover the B

544
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Speaker 2: gap and a quarterback escape. So yeah, you won your rush,

545
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: but the quarterback got the pocket. It's four guys rushing

546
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Speaker 2: as one. And I think you look at the group

547
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Speaker 2: of guys that we have and that we're going to

548
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Speaker 2: look to continue to add. You know those guys preach

549
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: that we preach that we all work together to go

550
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Speaker 2: get the QB and it's it's beautiful to see that

551
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: that group work together, man, that they're into it. Of course,

552
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: those guys love going to get the quarterback, which we love.

553
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: But you see the preparation in the meeting room, see

554
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Speaker 2: the preparation in practice, and you see the rush plan

555
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 2: that uh, you know, those guys go out there and

556
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: execute that's helped put together by h Dennis Johnson, Matt Robinson,

557
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 2: obviously Chuck Smith, and those guys go out there and

558
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: go execute it.

559
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Speaker 4: And as it happened to be, is great.

560
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Speaker 2: Man, Like we got guys who can go get the

561
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: quarterback one on one, like you line up fe Oway,

562
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Speaker 2: Kyle van Noyd, Justin Mattabk, Travis Jones, Tavius Robinson. I

563
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: can name the whole group, Progerck Washington. I line those

564
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: guys up one on one, they could win. But it's

565
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: how they work together, man, And I think that's what

566
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: makes this beauty beautiful and special. And that's where you

567
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: see the last couple of years we've been top of

568
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Speaker 2: the league in sacks. So it's four guys working working

569
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Speaker 2: together to get the QB. And then you know, obviously

570
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Speaker 2: you add in the dbs. We've got dbs who can

571
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Speaker 2: blit and we've got linebackers who can blitz as well,

572
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: right right.

573
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Speaker 1: I think fans too often just put pass rushing sacks

574
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Speaker 1: on the outside linebackers. It just it just feels that way.

575
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Speaker 1: They're like, go get a pass rusher, and they're talking

576
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Speaker 1: about an edge, right and and I like, you're saying,

577
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: it's a holistic you have to take a holistic look

578
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Speaker 1: at it. How much do you feel like another defensive lineman,

579
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Speaker 1: you know, penetrating kind of style three tech or whatnot,

580
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: could help Nomdi, you know, kind of get back to

581
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: his previous numbers, his sack production and elevate this whole group.

582
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 4: Definitely.

583
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Speaker 2: I think all the edge guys, which you know, I

584
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: know here they know football, but any edge guy who

585
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: knows ball, they will tell you, I need a middle

586
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: push presence. I need somebody in the middle that's gonna

587
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: help me, because if you don't push the pocket from

588
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Speaker 2: the inside, then the edge guys have so long to

589
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: so so long a way to go.

590
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Speaker 4: To run around to get your quarterback.

591
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Speaker 2: So you want to kind of compress that pocket, so

592
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: that having that in middle push another interior guy who

593
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 2: can go get the QB, who can command respect is

594
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: so important and we have those guys, but like I said,

595
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Speaker 2: you could never have enough. And I think with the

596
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: second part it will help out. It will help out

597
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: mattabeeks for sure. But I think this year Mattabeak's actually

598
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: helped out the other guys on the edge because he

599
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: commanded more attention and he still did his thing. I

600
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: think he played great and ours. The numbers weren't what

601
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: they were a year ago, but look at the numbers

602
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: of the people around you. They ate off of they

603
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: ate as well now that they ate off of you

604
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 2: as well. Now they had to go win rushes. But

605
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: you were a part of that. So, like I said,

606
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: it goes back to that deal of all.

607
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 4: These guys working together. Man.

608
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Speaker 2: But that interior push is so important. If you asked quarterbacks,

609
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Speaker 2: the guys running around them on the edge.

610
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Speaker 4: Okay, that's cool.

611
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Speaker 2: The natural reaction is do what first thing I'm doing

612
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Speaker 2: is try to step up right. Well, if I can't

613
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: step up, now, I try to go backwards. That's where

614
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: strip sacks happen. That's where the edge guys just collect

615
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: their sacks. So that that middle push in the pocket

616
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: is so important.

617
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. Michael Pierce announced his retirement. How much does

618
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: does that hurt?

619
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Speaker 4: You know?

620
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Speaker 1: And I know I know a lot of us kind

621
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Speaker 1: of felt like, all right, it could be coming. It

622
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Speaker 1: wasn't a total shock. But how tough is he to replace?

623
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: Travis Jones played a lot of snaps last year. Do

624
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Speaker 1: you see him kind of stepping into that role? But

625
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: he's also another one. I mean, he's so good. Yeah,

626
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: you also want to turn them loose to get the

627
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: passer too, because he's such a just beast that way.

628
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: So how do you see that all kind of playing out?

629
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it definitely, it definitely hurt for multiple reasons. Uh. First,

630
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Speaker 4: thay Man Mike.

631
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: Mike's a great, great dude, great person, great guy in

632
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: the locker room, in the building.

633
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 4: You can never have enough of.

634
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: Those people, right, Yeah, great player in his role what

635
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: we ask him to do. He's a guy you can

636
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: look at the stat box stat sheet. He ain't gonna

637
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: show up in the stat sheet a lot, but he's

638
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: gonna command double teams. He's been a he's been a

639
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: major part of why we've been able to play real

640
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: good run defense the last couple of years, because if

641
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: you don't double him, he's gonna make the play or

642
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: the line's gonna be in the backfield. And when you

643
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: double and when you do double team, he's not getting

644
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: pushed off the ball. He's gonna worst case scenario, he's

645
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: gonna Stalemateschi and now the backers are going to be free.

646
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: So that is very that is very tough to replace.

647
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: Now we had we had Travis Jones, will so we

648
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: was just rolling two guys. You know, you're tired, you

649
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: need to breathe go out there. So that standpoint. Another

650
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: reason why I hurts is Man, I've seen me personally.

651
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: I seen Michael Michael appears when he first came in

652
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: as a as a rookie Man in twenty sixteen.

653
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: Never forget the game he had New Orleans.

654
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Never forget just touch down in the preseasons, Man epic.

655
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 4: We still talk about it to this day.

656
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: So it's like seeing his seeing the beginning of his

657
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: career all the way through. Man, an undrafted guy making

658
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: a mark in his league, you know, getting paid, coming back,

659
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: helping helping row a new group, him from him being

660
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: a young guy to him being an old head what

661
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: we call in the football world, and and and leading

662
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: a group of guys.

663
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: Man was great.

664
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: So he's gonna be he's gonna be tough to he's

665
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to replace.

666
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: Man, it's gonna be tough to replace. You know.

667
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: It's a lot of great guys out there, and phrase

668
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: a lot of great guys on the draft we had.

669
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: We love the guys we have on our roster right now,

670
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: but you can never have enough big guys. Honestly, you

671
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: really never can. And I think that's what makes this

672
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: place unique. Like you know, coach Harball, Eric, those guys

673
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: put an emphasis, man, we need to have some big

674
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: guys in the middle of our defense that command double teams,

675
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna eat up blocks so we can play great

676
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: run defense because that's where defense starts with.

677
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: You have to be able to stop the run.

678
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna need another ball hawking defensive tackles.

679
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: Got about that, definitely? That is true.

680
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: That is definitely true, because that what's crazy about that play, man.

681
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: That play has been around for a long time, and

682
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: we always tell those guys and people first see it,

683
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: why you got these big guys out here? Why you

684
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: got these big guys dropping It's a rhyme too, it's

685
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: a reason for it.

686
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: But we always tell those guys to help sell it.

687
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: It's true, like, man, get to this landmark, snap your

688
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: head back, the ball might hit you in your hands.

689
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: And at least my time here.

690
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: It might have happened, happened in practice maybe once or twice,

691
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: but it's never happened in the game. And for it

692
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: to happen in that moment, man, was was so great

693
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: and so memorable. It was it was crazy, like I was.

694
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: I was speechless. I was peaceless. Man, I was speech

695
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: It was great. Now when we told him, got to

696
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: work on that slide, now, that was that. That scared everybody,

697
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: but it was it was great. Man, that was great.

698
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: We do need another ball hawk, and he set the standard.

699
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: Down when you're looking at when you're looking at film,

700
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: and these guys reads the draft like the hands.

701
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: Definitely definitely, because what's crazy. If you'd have dropped it,

702
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: he would have got He would got greater than minus

703
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: on the table. This opportunity, big play. So I'm glad

704
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 2: he called it. Man that that was such a great play. Man, great,

705
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: great hands, great athleticism. I mean, that's crazy. Man, that's

706
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: gonna live forever.

707
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: I still wish you would have tried to take it.

708
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Speaker 4: Back.

709
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: I know it's a bit.

710
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: He got a stiff arm. Man been good.

711
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: He had the all time quote though, and he said

712
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: the buses out of gas.

713
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: That's true definitely.

714
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: So uh, before you go, I got to ask you

715
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: about this. So your your family, the family business is coaching.

716
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: It's your family businesses. I've loved getting to know your

717
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: family over the years, and your brother's played and our coaching.

718
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,959
Speaker 3: But but what's up? So the Chiefs just hired your

719
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: brother as a.

720
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Speaker 1: Defensive This is kind of not cool.

721
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: Yes, and this is the first job in the NFL, right, yeah,

722
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: this is his first jobs and ask fool.

723
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: So he calls you and he's like, hey, Zach, good news,

724
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: I got a job and working in the in the NFL.

725
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: But it's for the Chiefs. Like how did this conversation go?

726
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 4: Man? So, I it's crazy.

727
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: I had a I knew it was a possibility because

728
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: he actually did it a summer internship with the Chiefs

729
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: this past summer, and I was like, man, I was like,

730
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: there's no other teams you can do. I'm okay, I'm

731
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 2: like all right, so go ahead, I know that's what

732
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: you want to do. So we went and did that,

733
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: and you know, obviously we know some coaches over there.

734
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: We know I know, I know Spags, I know Joe Culling.

735
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Got a chance to know a couple of other coaches

736
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: over there, and they say he did that remarkable job,

737
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: a heck of a job. And I was like, man,

738
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: that's good man. I'm proud of proud of my brother.

739
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 4: He did a good job. So I'm happy for him.

740
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: Happy for that. Okay.

741
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: So then you know, he goes he's coaching at Jackson State.

742
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: They do a good job, win a national championship.

743
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: Happy for him.

744
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: And then he actually was on an interview with the

745
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars. He was he was interviewing with UH for

746
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: a position on their staff. I'm okay, cool, You're on

747
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Jacksonville new staff.

748
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: You know. I was sending them places, good places.

749
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: These are good places, good areas, you know, for for

750
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 2: your family. And then he calls me later that day.

751
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go to Kansas City.

752
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm like what, I'm like, you going to Kansas City.

753
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, let me say, Okay, I'm happy

754
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: for you. I'm really happy for you.

755
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: I love you.

756
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: I know this is what you want to do.

757
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Happy for you go into obviously a great organization with

758
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: with some great coaches that we got great respect for.

759
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: But then I was like, all right, man, you know,

760
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: you know we talk all the time. I said, now

761
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: during the season, man, we're gonna have to we got

762
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: to just keep it just family.

763
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: I ain't don't talk about football.

764
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Asked me no questions like, I don't know if I

765
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: really can help you out, but I really I don't

766
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: have it.

767
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: I can't do that like you. You are the competition.

768
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: And my whole family's on board with that, like they

769
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: told him, besides his besides his wife, and my parents,

770
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: my other brothers, my son, my nephews, my nieces.

771
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: They Raven fans, the Raven fans.

772
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: They said, he tried to are you gonna roof No,

773
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: told him that sticking with the Raps. He understands that.

774
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: And then we told him, we said, man, look man,

775
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: you just got there. You know, this is a relationship

776
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: that's been built built up over time. We'll talk to you,

777
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: we love you and everything, but we're walking with the

778
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: purple and black. It's definitely gonna be it's definitely gonna

779
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: be interesting. Man, it's definitely gonna interested. But I'm happy for.

780
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Him, but it's so funny.

781
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: All right.

782
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: My last question is, you know we've talked a lot

783
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: about kind of takeaways from last season, lessons learned and whatnot.

784
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: And when you went back and reviewed the tape and

785
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you look at the tape of the when you jumped

786
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: on our Darius's back, the takeaway, what's the lesson learned

787
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: that you're gonna apply for next year when it comes

788
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: to celebrating with your players.

789
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: Man, the takeaway is, shoot, Honestly, I tell people this like,

790
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I really didn't know I did that.

791
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: I really didn't I was so amped up and so

792
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: fared up, Like I literally I blacked out. I didn't

793
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: know that happened until after the game. My people showed

794
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: me that we were down there in the family area.

795
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Was like, man, look at what you did. So, like

796
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: my take I cannot guarantee that won't happen because I

797
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: was just so excited.

798
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: I didn't know what happened.

799
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: Obviously, if I I didn't plant, I would like to

800
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: celebrate a different way besides taking a hard fall on

801
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: the ground and potentially injuring myself. But man, it was

802
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: just a great moment, just the series events that led

803
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: to it. Man, we were battling our butts off. We

804
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: got thought we had a fourth down stop, got called

805
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: for a flag that you know was debatable. So they

806
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: get all the way down there and they go forward

807
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: on fourth down and many a heck of a player

808
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: ad made a heck of a play just running to

809
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: the ball, physical tackle, big momentum shifter, and man, so

810
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I think that, uh, just let your emotions loose.

811
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: Man.

812
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: You know, I was smart. I didn't go I didn't run.

813
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: On the field, wait to cut to the sideline, so

814
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: it wasn't gonna get us a flag. But I think,

815
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 2: just man, all our team, man, we just feed off

816
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: of that. Man, Like, just let you show emotions. Show

817
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: We encourage our players that, man, and in the in

818
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: the right way. You know, be passionate out here. Football

819
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: is a passionate game.

820
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Man.

821
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: Celebrate those those small victories within the game and then

822
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: lock back in. And I think just us being able

823
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: to show that and demonstrate that is great, man, because

824
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: I honestly believe the play that uh those guys made

825
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: on that goal line stand. I felt like that really

826
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: shifted the game right there. Like it was a good

827
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: game going back and forth. But now after that moment,

828
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: those guys were like, you guys aren't scoring.

829
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 4: You guys not scoring.

830
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: You guys pulled out everything you guys can do and

831
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: you guys can't get it done against us. And I

832
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: think that was that was a great change, great great moment.

833
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: So my takeaway is make sure I continue to work

834
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: out so I can at least try to brace myselves

835
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: and limit the damage on the fallow that happens again.

836
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: And then takeaway is, man, I would like to have

837
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: more of those. That means we make a lot of players.

838
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

839
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 4: That would be great.

840
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, we knew when you were hired last year that

841
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: you'd bring the passion, so you delivered it. Definitely can't

842
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: wait to see more of a family man.

843
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Appreciate you, appreciate Welcome back into the Lunch podcast. We're

844
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: coming to you from the seat Geek Studio. We also

845
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: want to mention our partners with Draft Kings Sportsbook. They

846
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Speaker 3: are an official sports betting partner or the Baltimore Ravens

847
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Speaker 3: Draft King Sports Book. The Crown is yours. Well, thank you, Zach.

848
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: He's always been one of my favorite interviews as a

849
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: player and I as a coach, he's got one of.

850
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: My favorite dudes, not just an interview. Sure, he's a

851
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: great dude.

852
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: He's a great dude, and I think that that comes

853
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: across when you sit down and talk with him. Great energy.

854
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: I think you can see why players like and respect him.

855
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: Like he's authentic, he's on it, he's honest, he shoots

856
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: you straight. But he also brings like a lot of

857
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: positive energy and wants the best for players. And I

858
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: think that that came across in his first year's coordinator.

859
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: I think he's only gonna grow in that regard.

860
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really excited about this defense coming up in

861
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. I think, you know, it's also much

862
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: of the focus so far personnel wise this offseason has

863
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: been with the offense. Right, you resign Ronnie Stanley, you

864
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: re sign Patrick Ricard, you know you bring in d

865
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Hop Right, the offense is.

866
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush is a backup quarterback.

867
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is a backup quarterback, exactly like the offense

868
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: has kind of gotten the love so far. But I

869
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: really think that now it's kind of time for the defense.

870
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: And I do think, particularly from a draft perspective, that

871
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: that could be the avenue where this Ravens defense really

872
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: gets an infusion of new talented youth.

873
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: So the Ravens have eleven draft picks. Yeah, how many,

874
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Speaker 3: in your mind are on the defensive side. I'll put

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Speaker 3: you on the spot right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that.

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00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: You can't say if you say six.

878
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna say seven.

879
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 3: I was gonna that was my number two. Yeah, everyone's

880
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: gonna be seven.

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: You know so, I mean, and it could even be

882
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: like eight. I mean, I think it could even be higher.

883
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: Pretty that'd be pretty stacked. But I'll go with seven.

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00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking too.

885
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: And I then you're gonna have multiple picks on defensive line.

886
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a safety, You're gonna have a corner

887
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: that's four right there. You're gonna have an addresser that's five.

888
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: Right.

889
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you.

890
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Speaker 1: Could you could double you could get inside linebackers six.

891
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can double up on the defense line. You

892
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: could double up in the secondary, you could.

893
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could take two two corners. Certainly that's six

894
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: right there that I think are almost a slam dunk.

895
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

896
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: So getting to eight or getting to seven is not challenging.

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00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: Eight no surprising, I think. But I think seven probably

898
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: is a sweet spot, assuming they have all eleven of

899
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: those picks, and then that gives Zach and the staff

900
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: a lot to work with. And I'm with you, I

901
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: think the defense is gonna be really good. I think

902
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: that they're gonna I think that they're going to pick

903
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: up where they left off at the end of the year.

904
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: The second half of last season, they were the best

905
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: defense in the league. They have a lot of pieces that,

906
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: of course there's some replacing, but you have your core

907
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: players coming back. You have your pass rushers, you have

908
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: your interior defensive lineman about a BK. You have your

909
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: middle iebacker Roquand, you have Kyle Hamilton, you have Marlon

910
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: hunt for you have Nate Wiggins, who he had great

911
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: things to say about. So I think that, like from

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00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: a core the foundational standpoint, your pieces are in place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost these complimentary pieces like we were talking about,

914
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Speaker 1: you know, he's talking about a third safety, Yeah, third corner,

915
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, the inside linebacker, depth, defensive line, Like they

916
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: have a good defensive line. How can you bolster that?

917
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: It's complimentary pieces that also allow your stars to really

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Speaker 1: do what they do best to shine. Yep, right, and

919
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: that's a good position to be in.

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00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: Like, those are important positions, but anytime you're talking about

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Speaker 3: like the third of anything, you're in a pretty good

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00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: start up, exactly, like exactly, So I think, yeah, I'm

923
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Speaker 3: excited about this defense with Zach and I think that

924
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: it's going to be a great group and he's going

925
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: to continue to shine as a defensive coordinator. So, as always,

926
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Speaker 3: you can send us your thoughts and your emails at

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Speaker 3: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you

928
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Speaker 3: so much for watching, thank you for listening, and we

929
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Speaker 3: will talk with you again.

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Speaker 1: So