WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc, Iso Joe, and Patrick Beverly react to the Thunder beating the Pacers in G5! 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:18.959 The volume and hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.639 for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.040 watch the OKC Thunder take a three to two lead 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.600 as they head back to Indy one oh nine. Jalen 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.839 Williams was sensational and you know, uh, Shae Gilger just 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.160 did what shake gilg just does. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:35.720 Uh. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.239 He wasn't It wasn't terribly efficient, but he got to 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.400 the free throw line fourteen times that he made thirteen 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.879 of them. He chipped in with thirty one, but it 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.639 was the big forty from Jalen Williams that really did 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.479 the pacers in. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.320 Y'all know me, I'm your favorite unk. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.680 Shannon Sharp filling in for number two is number three 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.640 Little Rock, Arkansas native the universe of Arkansas, Lum. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.880 That is I sold Joe who got a big this weekend. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.800 They were down, but I so Joe refused to let 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:05.920 them lose and they come back and win at fifty 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.200 to forty eight. That is Joe Johnson and joining us 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.840 to break down this game, give us a little better, 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.280 a little better. 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I think they showed 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.399 a graphic. I couldn't hear the sound, but I think 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.080 he's dealing with something, the casf ankle or something. But 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.480 he was all six, all four from three and he 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.400 only had four points and he turned the ball over 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.480 because seemed they were about to get back into this 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.960 ball game. If I'm not Rick, Carlile madershould have left 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.000 those backups in because those were the guys that got 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:50.800 him back in the game. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.840 Guys, Joe, let me start with you first. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.960 How was okc able from this tip take control of 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.360 this ball game? And although they cut it down two 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.200 really never really was the lead from that point on. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.000 Man, I thought, okay, see, you know. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.080 Did everything they could in Indiana can Pete ball to 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.800 get a game, and they did so. They reclaimed home 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:16.480 quarter advantaghed. I love the big lineup man from the jump. 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.800 I always ask, man, why did they switch that lineup? 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.880 Why would he change that lineup? If you look at 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.200 the first quarter, Hartenstein put his stamp on that first quarter. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.440 Yep, his energy, his effort and making. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.240 Plays, getting these guys easy buckets, so they got into 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.320 a rhythm early. I thought, playing through him almost in 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.800 that first quarter to where he was able to get 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.039 back doors, get guys wide open for three and I 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.159 just thought they pretty much opened up the game. But 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.560 for me Unck and Pete Bell if it was too 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.600 close for my life and if I'm ok see, I 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.279 thought they should have put them guys away a lot sooner. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.800 But you know, giving credit to Indiana who's fault this 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.160 whole postseason, and you're probably right, he probably should have 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.360 stuck with the backups because those guys had so much 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:56.840 energy and they got him right back in the game. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.160 Like how they down six points and Hallenberg playing it's 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.719 bad so uh. But I thought laying that fourth quarter, 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:05.760 you know, the thun to put their stamp on it, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.240 you know, with with Williams obviously having an incredible game, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.400 Shade kind of followed up and you know it was 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.360 a side kicked tonight but they did what they do. Man, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:18.039 they got guys who can close. I like, yeah, look 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.320 at that Indy. It looked like from the jump the 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.719 Indy like they came into this game like, well, you 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.719 know what, even if we lose this game, we get 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.080 to go back home. Because I don't think they came 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.160 out with the energy that you look I understand this 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.440 too too, but it didn't look like they came out 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.080 with the energy that I expected the team to come 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.640 out with, especially on the road. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.360 What didn't you like about what you saw from Indy? 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.279 Ill I look at the first play on like you 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.920 feel me like being in the trenches, especially in the playoffs. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.480 I looked at the first play the first play they 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.600 got the ball. Okay, see got the ball in the pocket. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.480 Like Joe said Harlstein, they hit hardstyle in the pocket. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.720 First play out the game, dump boom boom at the tunk. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:56.680 Right. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.600 If I'm them on the other end, I'm telling it. Listen, man, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.560 first minutes, no dumb motherfucker in there. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.120 We we we fired. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.200 Were putting them right to the full. But okay, see 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.320 sat the tone and they can really handle it. I 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.760 think they really really got back into the game. I 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.200 was like punching back that uh that that second unit 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:14.640 that was in the game that third quarter. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.560 Yeah, I mean I agree with you guys, But tonight 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.520 they needed a little bit more from Haller Burton. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.480 They didn't get it them hard. I thought he needed. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.600 Look, if you go back and look at it, they 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.200 got back in the game with Obie top And and TJ. McConnell, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.560 then Pascal Siaka, that was the unit that really got in. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:31.640 The passcal is the starter. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.160 But you look at TJ McCallum, You look at guys, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.640 they were flying around the floor. They've making it and 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.520 then all of a sudden, it was a two point game. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.120 You get a loose ball, okay, see they get a 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.240 second chance points, they kick it out. Jayleen Williams in 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.240 a three and the next thing you know, Haller Burton 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.640 comes down and he turns the ball over. And so 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.600 what was a two point game? All of a sudden, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.880 it's a seven point game. Call the time out. They 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.760 come hit another three and it's a ten point game, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.679 and from that point on the game was over. Look, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.120 I understand, and I think everybody's played. Everybody here been 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.360 a professional athlete for an extended period of time and 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.159 we've all played injured, the hurd it, whatever the term 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.119 you want to use. It's a lot easier said than done, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.400 because your brain knows that you're hurt. Your body's gonna 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.120 gonna favor the injury, be a need, be an ankle, 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.920 a calf, or whatever the case may be. But tonight 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:21.920 I thought Halliburton hurt them more than his presence helped them. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.080 I could be wrong. What did you guys see? 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:24.560 Now? 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.160 I think I think I think from like an athlete standpoint, 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.520 and we all know like you feel me, like you 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.600 want to transistion this playoffs and playing in a big game, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.560 a huge game. You feel me like you throwing in 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.200 a towel and saying like, Okay, I'm hurt. 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:41.480 I ain't gonna play no more. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.080 Can rub it off to some players on a team 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.680 like damn he put on us, Like why wouldn't he? 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.520 Like we as competitors, No, man, if it ain't broke, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.680 come on, let's keep playing. You know, so I look 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:58.000 at that standpoint from competitors. Yeah, hey, look for me, man, 0:07:58.040 --> 0:07:58.600 this is it. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:07:59.160 This is it. 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.920 Guys. I mean, hallam, you can't you can't get it back, 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.960 Like A said, I didn't think that they came out 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:08.520 with that sense of urgency that they needed to compete. Now, Okay, see, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.080 you know they knew they come squander this game away. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:14.120 They like I said, they had got home court advantage back, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.920 and they played like they played resilient. They attacked the basket, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.760 they put pressure on their defense. They probably had more 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.400 wide open shots tonight n mp ball than they probably 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.160 had in this whole series. Yeah, they turned they defense 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.800 that they played great defense was turned into you know, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.800 pretty good offense to where they all kind of got 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.280 into a rhythm. Then you get Wigans making threes, you 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.559 get walked. That's the thing they had stopped that. When 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.800 you got your others playing great, they at home, they 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.440 feel comfortable, it's a rap. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.760 I thought they was gonna blow them out. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.320 So I was surprised that Indiana was able to even 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.360 stay in the ball game. Yeah, I think the thing 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.320 was look at they had seven turnovers in the first 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.160 and it look I think the first game kind of 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.280 gave Indiana false sets because they had twenty five turnovers 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.520 past Bell. They had nineteen turnovers in that first game 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.880 in the first half and they ended up winning, and 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.600 I think they gave them a false sense like, hey, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.360 we can turn the ball. No, you can't, because when 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.240 you turn the ball over against this team, they turn 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.920 them into points, and they turn them into points abruptly. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.760 So and now you look at it, they're right back 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.840 in this game, and they have like three consecutive turnos 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.000 back to back to back, and now what was a 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.560 two or four point game, all of a sudden, it's 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.520 right back to a thirteen point game. I'm like, guys, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.040 you've got to do a better job of They the 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.400 pacers got to do a better job. You know, they 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.280 got very active hands. And when they bring Caruso in 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.920 and they bring that second unit, they get even more active. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.480 And Joe were talking about it the first game. We're like, 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.120 why y'all go to that small lineup? You look at tonight, 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.640 chant hongred worries of that chant holgred five officive rebounds, 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.320 I say, Hartenstein six officive rebounds, lou Dort five offensive rebounds. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.080 Now they had nineteen, but three guys had sixteen of 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.319 the nineteen. You see, now you're getting second chance points. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.360 I don't know what made you think you could go 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:04.080 to a small lineup and play. No, No, I'm gonna 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.000 make you adjust to what I do because I'm the 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.160 one that won six day games. I've got the MVP. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.560 I'm not adjusting to you, but I just throw any 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.760 out of the effort that I thought. And even in 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.400 the second hold on the fourth quarter, they get the 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:16.240 ball and what. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.280 Do they do right at turn the ball over? I'm 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:18.960 playing with damn. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.960 And then he called a time out. There was down 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.360 I think it was down seven. They come out on 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:25.880 the time out and turned. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.800 The ball over again. Be bam. I'm like, bro, what 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.320 are y'all? 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.680 I know, Rick Carlile and draw that bull job up 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.599 in the hoddle and you gotta thing you gotta do 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.480 this A young team too, right, this is a team 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.160 and I'm you know, I ain't really trying to. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.600 Like obviously we could say, oh no, this team win 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.000 the championships. You know, they supposed to play perfect. But 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.600 this is a team that's only been here first time. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.760 You know, obviously they've both been at the first time. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.120 But okay, see has a little bit of experience of 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.920 guys who who who's won on that level? Right, I 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.360 mean as far as guard play, these are young guards. 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:57.600 Right. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.800 If these say they say first really experienced on a 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.880 big show. So you're talking about like making the right 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.319 decision constantly and a hostile environment like okay, see go 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.800 be tough for any player. So what I think they 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.680 gonna play much better at home is we see, we 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.560 know how Indiana play at home. But I just think 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:17.280 that you know, the moment the Haller Birds injury, it took, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.559 it took veterans TJ. Mcconnells. You see the game he had, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.640 you know, like it took guys who's been there before. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.160 The Okay, cool, let me get the ball. Let's calming down. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.360 Let's get the best possession, let's get the best buckets. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.640 So we're gonna say, you know, they can mix that 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.800 in all together, Indiana with that pressure of uh you know, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:33.959 if they lose as old. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.880 Hey, well if you do get before you go, Joe, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:37.360 they get too. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.320 There's two days in between, so they don't play again 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.679 until Thursday, so probably get around the clock treatment tomorrow. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:49.319 You know, Hey, tonight, tomorrow, Wednesday, Hey, be ready to go, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.920 because there is no Thursday. I mean, excuse me, there 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:54.280 is no Friday, there is no tomorrow. If you don't 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.400 take care of business on Thursday, man, you better put 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.880 some dird on that thing, and and and and pass 0:11:58.880 --> 0:11:59.160 it up. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.280 Man, stop playing. Man, We got we got the ball 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.760 game and the web fellas. Hey, hey, do y'all use 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.120 d ms so? Do y'all use d ms so? 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.360 In the NBA, is that it's like a Vetinaria's rubbing 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.120 on horses to take the swordess out of your ankles 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:14.680 and muscles. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.280 I don't take medicine. I'm from the Motherland. I don't 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.520 take medicine. You don't take it. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.240 You rub it on, but it makes your breast belt 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.439 like Garnic. But it does take the sword this out. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.800 They had, they used to had that innocen you know 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:31.320 where Anderson is all, yeah, they get we call it 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.559 that end though they had that innocent boy, he take 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.479 that Enderson, You don't feel nothing, you hear me. Yeah, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.440 they're supposed to be careful taking all that medicine because 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.640 this is really toxic on deliver you know, everything you 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.320 put it in your body. If it's a medicine, it's 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:49.840 got to go through that liver again, he doxifies. So, hey, hey, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.600 anything anything where you can play in comfort the way 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:53.360 you ain't in pain. 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.679 Boy, you bet tore it off. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.840 Well, I know y'all had torn off definitely, Okay that 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.440 I know guys who used to take the leaves sixty 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.240 minutes on the cot every game, faithfully, faithfully every game. 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.680 Yeah man, Hey to to take that pain, well, I said, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.680 I haven't seen people get that shot, get that shot 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.280 in the glue. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:18.680 Oh and uh I have seen it. I have seen it. 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.760 Hey, Look Pete bell Man, it seemed like, uh, Indiana 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.160 was under distress, you know, pretty much the hole. It's 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.520 like they couldn't calm down, they couldn't settle themselves down, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.760 and they got themselves in a lot of trouble, which 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.679 led to a lot of turnovers, and those turnovers led 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.080 into easy baskets, man, wavy buckets, Yeah, which got which 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.240 got OKC going. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.240 And they never they never bounced back from that. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.600 Yes see See it seems like they wanted Look, they 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.720 have a style of play p ball. You played against them, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.160 and it seems like, look, they want to speed tempo. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.880 They won't make her miss We're gonna push tempo, so 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.440 we don't care if you make it, we'll take it 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:55.880 out of the net. If you miss it, we'll get 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.120 it off the rim. But we're gonna go and it 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.560 seems like they wanted to play that style, but it 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.880 was playing right into ok C's hand because you're speeding up, 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.240 but you're speeding yourself up and next thing you know, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 deflections they get ball going the other way. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.000 I'm like, bro, what are you? What do y'all do? 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:11.720 Just settled? 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.360 Just I wish somebody he said like these this is 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.400 a young team, and they are they don't really have anybody. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.960 I think the only guy that Thomas Bryant has been 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.880 in the championship he one one one would uh. I 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.920 think he was Denver when they want a championship, he was. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:35.040 He was the best man plaining about being in l A. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.840 They got him upout it that because he wanted yeah yeah, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.880 and he ain't been seen since. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.440 But I think the thing was, you're right. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.360 They they played at a pace that they wanted to 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.880 play at, but it wasn't conducing for that game. It's 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:51.240 kind of like a team that want to, Hey, we 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.280 throw the football, bro, it's a down pour, it's a 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.000 hurricane out here. Bro, Hey, you gotta pick and choose 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.760 our spots. But we're gonna throw it, but we gotta 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.000 come up with a different game plan. I agree, I agree, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.160 I think, Uh, and that's why, you know, when you 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.280 look at ok C and the makeup of the team, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.640 obviously having the MVP and Shake, you look how poised 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.440 he'd be down the stretch and when it's time to 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.560 get to his spots. Pet Bell, Hey, look, you can 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.080 do all that grab and hold and bumping when I drive, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:18.680 but I'm gonna get on ballants, I'm gonna make some 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.040 tough shots. I thought he made some tough shots to Night, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.120 especially in that fourth quarter, uh. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.640 To give to get him over the Hart. But I 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.359 think that's the difference in the series. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.480 Even though hallen Bergers had flashes, the way he's played great. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.080 I just think OKC, you know, led by Shade and 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.640 obviously Williams. You know, those guys are very patient offensively. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.400 They get they get to their spots and it's nothing. 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.040 You can do about it. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.440 Yeah, And I think, like when you look at the game, right, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.880 and and I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on the other side. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:46.400 And this if I'm. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.520 Indiana, right, and I'm you know, I'm in the front 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.200 office and I'm the numbers guy, right, I'm looking at 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.280 this game, Joe, I'm looking at this game like, oh man, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.120 we could have won that game. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.840 We just shot it back from the three. Yeah, you 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.800 know what I'm saying. So like, regardless of what we're saying, right, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.200 I don't know half of those thirties go down. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.400 With the way they played. This is a totally different game. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.600 So they're getting on the plane mentally like, oh, that's okay, guys, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.920 we're just in the shots regardless of how the game 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.360 is going. So you gotta you gotta kind of understand 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:17.040 how that works too. Going back to ND, I agree 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.880 with you Pee Bell when you look at it. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.160 If I Rick Carlisle, guys, we can't play any worse 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.680 for three quarters now, and we still and we cut 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.720 it with like nine minutes to go to a two 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.480 point game. So just think if we play, if we 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.200 play ten percent better than what we played the first 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.800 three quarters, now, we gotta we got our crowd now, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.000 we can't just become reliant on our crowd. We're gonna 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.760 have to play better, clearly, and I believe we can 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.000 play better than what we played tonight. But guys, think 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.480 about how many we had seven turnovers in the first 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:52.080 quarter on the road. So I mean we're down ten, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:53.400 We're down ten. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.400 Yeah, I think that's my motivation going into the locker room. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.600 That's my motivation. Just like you said, my motivation is 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.600 if I'm Carlisle. Obviously he was a phenomenal coach rack 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.960 and he's been doing it for the every season he's 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:05.959 been in the NBA. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.040 But if I'm him, that's the message the guys. We 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:08.679 miss shots. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.280 Guys, we turned over the ball, protect the ball. Hit 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.000 We're gonna make shots, stay in it and real stuffle, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.840 real easy. Because you don't want to put too much 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.040 pressure on that limitade game. You don't get people kind 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.399 of thinking. Second thing, oh no, I got okay. See 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.760 oh man, I got okay out. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.879 Third, yeah, I got him closing out. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.520 Man, Listen, if if if Hallenburg gonna come out and 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.800 give you what he gave you tonight, I don't see 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.879 how he can be much better in Indiana. I mean, 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.840 if he heard he hurt, I think I think, okayc 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.720 gonna come out and take advantage of that and obviously close. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.359 Him out and gonna win this series. Man. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.480 Uh you just I mean you, you are playing you 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.920