1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Nor along with Rich Martini. We're talking about his latest 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: work called Divine Counsels in the Afterlife? Who Picks the Council? Rich? 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Just to finish up that story about Michael Newton, it 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: was just that the thing that he recounted was somebody 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: seeing our council felt that he had been a very 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: generous person in life, and they asked him who did 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: you help? And then they showed him a woman that 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: was crying on a bus and this guy had put 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: his arm around her and said, everything's going to be okay. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: And then they showed him that one act of kindness 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: reverberated out through the universe, through her universe, her family 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: and everything. So the council members themselves, they grow in number. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: So every lifetime that you've learned something very difficult, because 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll ask the council members what are you representing his 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: person council and say, let's say courage. And then I'll say, well, 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: did they earn your presence on their council through a 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: difficult lifetime something they had to do it was courageous 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and they'll say yes, and then I'll say, well, can 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: you show that to them? And then suddenly the person saying, okay, 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: it's the Renaissance and I'm in the midst of this 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: battle and i sacrifice myself for my comrades. And that 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: was when that person became their council member. And so 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: it's like the amount could be anywhere, like from three 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: to fifteen, but then numbers grow. The other thing is, 27 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: when doing this kind of work, you can get to 28 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: a council and they'll say, well, I'm seeing twelve chairs, 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: but there's only six people here, and I'll ask about 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: that and they'll say, well, they are they busy? Are 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: they playing golf? You know? What are they doing? And 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: they'll say, well, it's because if this person saw this 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: individual now, it would disrupt their path. So it's like 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: they don't show up for these media, you know, having 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: this conversation. And then I also ask the question because, 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: like I said, generally counsels get visited by the person 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: that you know, they're watching over twice for each lifetime, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: and then here I am in the middle of their lifetime, 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: bringing them back, you know, and asking questions to them, 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: to show them that we're always connected to our council members. 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Then I'll ask you, is this okay? I mean that 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: we're disrupting them, and they'll they know it's and I've 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: heard this. It's not me talking. I've heard this from 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: other people saying it's important for humanity that people need 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: to hear this, that we're always connected to them. We're 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: tethered to them. So when they feel alone and lost 47 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: and lonely, all they have to do is ask for 48 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: our help. Again. They can't intercede because we did sign 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: up for a lifetime, but they can help us access 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is we need to access. Whether it's whether 51 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, a person before they go gambling in 52 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Vegas to say, you know, help me win, help me 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: be successful. The same thing can happen when it comes 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: to go into a job interview. Ask your guys, ask 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: your these council members to give you support, an insight, 56 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes before you go to sleep, you can ask 57 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: them to come forward and say, look, I just I 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: need some help with this thing, and can you do it? 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Can you do it in a non invasive way, so 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm not terrified what I you know, see, whoever it 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: is do they quietly make things happen rich apparently? So 62 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: that apparently coincident? You know? And then how do you 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: make things happen well? People will report, you know. Jennifer 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: and I, Jennifer Schaeffer and I have been doing this 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: for a while. We have that podcast Hack in the Afterlife, 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: and every week we talk to people on the flip side, 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: and I always ask about process. How did you make 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: that happen? How did you get that quarter to appear 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: in front of my friend? And how did you put 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: that piece of jewelry in their pa? Ask and they 71 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: talk about a couple of things. One is their outside 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: of time, so it's not hard for them to see 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: all the parameters that are involved to get that song 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: to play on the radio at the exact time you're 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: driving by your friend's house who passed away, so that 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: you remember your friend. They talk about coincidence, about creating 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: visuals for you, it's much easier than creating dialogue and sound. 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: You need air to create sound, but you can't put 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: a thought in people's minds. You can put a thought 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: in someone's mind when they're dreaming, much easier because their 81 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: filters are down, so that idea of bypassing. They're bypassing 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: your filters and we're bypassing our filters in order to 83 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: make this connection. So, you know, you've heard that thing 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: of eleven eleven, you know, and people talk about it 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: all the time as if it's some kind of magical 86 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: And I've asked the question, so what's up with eleven 87 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: and eleven? What was that about? And what I've gotten 88 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: from them is the idea that it's a physical manifestation 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: of visualization of what's going on. They're on one side 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: of a fence. Think of eleven as a fence, and 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: there the colon in between, and they're on one side 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of the hall and we're on the other side of 93 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the hall. They need to slow down because their frequency 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: is so much exponentially different than ours. They need to 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: slow down in order to pass messages, ideas, thoughts, nudges 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: to us. For us, we need to speed up. So 97 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: how does that work? Meditation could be a relaxation, could 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: be just being in an happy place so you can 99 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: accept it. One more key is being open to the 100 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: possibility that a person still exists. If you're not open 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: to that possibility, then it's like locking the gate because 102 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: they come up and they're trying to communicate with you. 103 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: If you don't believe it's possible, then you will never 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: hear from them. But if it's possible on some level 105 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: that they could communicate, that apparently is the key to 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: open up the door so that they can show up 107 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: in a song, show up in a visual memory. Sometimes 108 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: people have cigar smoke while I'm talking to them doing 109 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: one of these guided meditations, and they suddenly are overcome 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: with tears because they're saying, oh, my gosh, this is 111 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I can smell the pipe smoke of my professor. You know, 112 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: I haven't smelled it since they passed away, and it's 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: in my face right now. So those kind of things 114 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: they can let us know viscerally that they exist, that 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: even though we might not consciously know who they are, 116 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: we can bypass those filters to access them to learn 117 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: new information from them. Are these council members people we 118 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: have known in their lives before they died or are not? 119 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes yes, And that's it's fascinating because it's a lot 120 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: of times people will say, oh, I'm seeing an old 121 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: person is a very ancient looking I asked him to 122 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: describe him or her and they'll say, you know, white 123 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: hair or white robes or etc. But sometimes, like I said, 124 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: council members could be a young person. They see like 125 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: a young like somebody that I is in a book. 126 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Saw a girl like a young girl I got a bicycle, 127 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: and it was like so young. But so I asked her, 128 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: what do you represent in this person's thing? And it 129 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: was the joy of the new, That's what she said, 130 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: finding something new. And she had had a number of 131 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: lifetimes on earth and most recently I don't know how 132 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: many years ago, I forget, but she said that was 133 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: the thing. She represented something about the joy of the new, 134 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and that was important for this guy who's a screenwriter 135 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: and she's helping him with that to always remember what 136 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: it was like to find something fresh and new in 137 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: his work. So it really depends. And sometimes people see relatives, 138 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: some like a great grandfather or and I'll ask that person, 139 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: are you are you this person's great grandfather? Are you 140 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: just visually giving them something as comfortable to remember? And 141 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll say it's the comfortable thing, and they're just 142 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: giving them somebody that looks like their grandfather so they 143 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: can have a conversation. One of the most interesting is 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: in the book where there's a podcaster out of England, 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Simon Bone, who we did a very long session where 146 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: at some point he's talking to his council member and 147 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: he comes upon like a tough guy, almost like a Fonzarelli, 148 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, leather jacket, smoking a cigarette. Every one of 149 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: his answers with snarky and Simons from Cambridge. This council 150 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: member was in the Vietnam War and was from San Diego, 151 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: and he had all the references that somebody from you know, 152 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: SoCal would have what he was talking about. And at 153 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: some point I was he was being very a taciturn 154 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: with me and like a tough guy, like what are 155 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: you asking that for? And I said, um, what do 156 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: you look like to other council members? And he paused 157 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: and said, okay, you got me. I look like a 158 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: light That's what I look like. So in other words, 159 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: he was presenting this tough guy with a leather jacket's 160 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: open a cigarette to this Simon and you know, so 161 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: that and one of the other council members says, oh, 162 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: that's just Frank, that's just what he is who he is, 163 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: you know. But to them he is a light he's 164 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: an energetic light. And then they manifest as an individual, 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: as a person, as a you know, older person, as 166 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: a whatever that is, whatever they prefer to manifest as. 167 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: And it's almost like an agreement between us and them. 168 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: We see them as this person that's wise, and they 169 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: see us as their sort of student who's learning. It's 170 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: a fascinating look at how to figure out why we're 171 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: on the planet. Are they guiding us while we're alive, 172 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: or are they trying to help us once we die? 173 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: Well there's two answers to that. One is they're totally 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: trying to help us while we're here. They're always they 175 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: want to say that they've always got our back because 176 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: I'll ask how they like Guardian Angels, rich like Guardian 177 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: Absolutely like Guardian Angels, because I'll ask, you know, is 178 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: there ever a moment in time where you guys are 179 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: so busy running around doing something else that you forget 180 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: us in a laughter And they'll say, no, we're tethered. Literally, Well, 181 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: you're doing something and you're focused on something. We're aware 182 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: of it, and we again, they can't interfere, but they 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: can support. So it's that thing of saying you know, 184 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and you start to think about, well, this is this 185 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: the same thing as creativity, Like when I'm saying up 186 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: something and I'm trying to be creative and I'm trying 187 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: to well, it appears to be something similar to that, 188 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: which is you're opening up the field to get an idea, 189 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: an image, a sound, a taste, a flavor, and it's 190 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: almost like they're helping you do that. This happens a 191 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: lot when I'm working with Jennifer Worse. I'll ask a 192 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: question and she'll say, they told me that you were 193 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: going to ask that question. It's like they pop the 194 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: question into my head and I said it, but she's like, 195 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: but it didn't, or she'll finish my sentence before I've 196 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: even started it. It's like as if because she's hearing 197 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: what they're telling me to ask, what are these council 198 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: members like when they're as signed someone like a Jeffrey 199 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: DAHMERH my god, what do they do about that? Well? 200 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: You have to it's so complicated, and I try not. 201 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to chuckle there. It's a difficult topic 202 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: because but it comes up all the time, and so 203 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: we have to sort of examine what is going on 204 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: because of course we're talking about a theater. These are 205 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: actors that are cast to play a role in a theater, 206 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: and they've the people that are in the theater are 207 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: aware of it. We only bring a portion of our 208 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: conscious energy to a lifetime, so there's part of our 209 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: consciousness is always back home. So while we're here on stage, 210 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: we're also off stage. The portion off stage is aware 211 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: of all of our lifetimes, aware of why we're on stage, 212 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: but the portion on stage is not aware because of 213 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: the filters. So now you have a person, let's not 214 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: use Jeffrey, Let's just say somebody who's causing chaos and 215 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: causing difficulty. We have our higher sells back home to 216 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: ask like, what's going on? What does this person doing here? 217 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: Why did we agree to participate in their nonsense? Or 218 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: did they go beyond what they were planning to do? 219 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: Or were they so abused on the planet that they 220 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: turned into an abuser which is often the case, Something 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: something toxic happened to their DNA while they were here 222 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: that turned them into this kind of monster. And why 223 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: would we What lessons do we get from that? The 224 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: weird part of this research is to discover that everybody 225 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: that we sort of really dislike a portion of them 226 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: still exists, whatever that is, and we can access that 227 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: and we can ask them questions and their guides and 228 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: their council members, what's up with that? What were you 229 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: guys thinking? Why did you allow this chaos to happen? 230 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: And they will answer those questions, well, how did they intervene? Though, 231 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you stop a Jeffrey Dahmer if 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: you have to well, I mean if you're a council member, 233 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: if you're a council member, you know you'd have to 234 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: think again, why did they allow him to choose his lifetime? 235 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: That's the question. And then they'll tell you, well, in 236 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: a previous lifetime, this happened to him, This identical thing 237 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: happened to him. And so when we were talking to 238 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: them about learning from abuse, and you know how he 239 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: wanted to come and experience abuse again. He wanted to 240 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: learn these lessons. Things got haywire. I don't know, really 241 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: know his story so well that I could you killed 242 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: seventeen people. No, I know that, and I know what 243 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: he did to him, and I know he's from Milwaukee, 244 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: and I just I didn't watch this series. It's not 245 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: my cup of tea. But that being said, you know, 246 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: from Adolph Hitler on, we know the planet has always 247 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: had players that are really out of control, and you 248 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: you ask yourself, well, why why did they allow this 249 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: person to be there on in the stage at this time? Well, 250 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: because we have free will, don't we? But we also 251 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: learn lessons. We sign up to learn lessons, and it 252 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: might be to learn lessons because nobody dies. Those seventeen 253 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: people still exist. They're they're back home. They left the stage, 254 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: and you can talk to them and say, why did 255 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: you why did you choose this? They may have left 256 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the stage too early though they left too early exactly, 257 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: or they were bumped off stage, but still when they 258 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: get home, they go they'll they can explain it because 259 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: their higher conscious self understands why they agreed to all 260 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: the parameters. So it's very difficult for me to say, well, 261 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know these people, so I don't know why 262 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: these things happened. However, we can ask them. You can 263 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: actually even a guided meditation. You sit down with somebody 264 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: who was a peripheral player, let's say a cop who 265 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: was involved, and you ask him to access his higher 266 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: self and his counsel and his guides, and while you're 267 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: doing that, you say, now, what's up with this event 268 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: that happened in his lifetime that was part of this journey, 269 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: and they'll give insight into the education that was involved, 270 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the people that learned lessons. As difficult as that sounds, 271 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: because there's no journey that doesn't include lessons. 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