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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. My guest is

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Speaker 1: cellular biologist doctor Bruce Lipton, author of the Biology of

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Speaker 1: belief and Spontaneous Evolution. And we were talking before the break,

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Speaker 1: Bruce about the immune system and immune compromised people or

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Speaker 1: respiratory susceptible people that have for respiratory susceptibility. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any advice for people in that particular community or

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Speaker 1: that sector of people, and is it if you have

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Speaker 1: a healthy immune system? Are there are different set of rules.

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Speaker 1: I think what we have to do is alleviate the

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Speaker 1: fear first of all, Okay, about this particular epidemic that's

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Speaker 1: happening right now, because the fear is motivated by what

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Speaker 1: are called the mortality numbers. Yes, you know, every year

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Speaker 1: there's flu season, and every year they say flu seasons

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Speaker 1: called men get your shots, and people just take it

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Speaker 1: in stride. And every year about point one percent of

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Speaker 1: the population dies from the flu every year. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: always happening. But who are those that die? And I said,

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Speaker 1: those that are compromised, and especially the older people, which

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Speaker 1: are really compromised at some degree. Those are the ones.

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Speaker 1: And I say, if you're in that community, guys, you said,

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Speaker 1: what can you do? And I say, it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing I would do is if I was in any community,

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Speaker 1: And that number one is, first of all, take care

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Speaker 1: of my health. That is the number one thing, and

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Speaker 1: that means eating really good, nutritious, organic, you know, non

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Speaker 1: industrial farm food, because the chemistry of industrial farm food

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Speaker 1: is not really supportive. That's a problem. Number two, I

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Speaker 1: would take any kinds of supplements and vitamins, and especially

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Speaker 1: vitamin C and large doses because that is one of

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Speaker 1: the most effective agents in enhancing immune function, Vitamin C large.

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Speaker 1: Lastly and most importantly well is Bruce focusing on fear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a big one. But tell us the dosage of

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Speaker 1: the vitamin C. That is important, absolutely absolutely, it's it's

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Speaker 1: historically been that way, and I guess not really supported

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Speaker 1: by the conventional pharmaceutical people who who you know, that's

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Speaker 1: not a drug, it's a vitamin, So they're not happy

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Speaker 1: with that. But are you doing like three grams an

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Speaker 1: hour or ten grams a day or how much over

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Speaker 1: over two grams a day? For sure? Three grams is good.

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Speaker 1: Uh and four grams. It doesn't hurt, and it's one

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Speaker 1: of the most important elements and enhancing immune system function.

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Speaker 1: Can you take it? So? Can you take it hourly

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Speaker 1: or is it body just going to eliminate what it

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Speaker 1: doesn't use. I take mine in the morning and uh,

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Speaker 1: and that's it and let it go. And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: not caught up in the fear for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the day as well. The fear is an unfortunate uh,

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Speaker 1: advertising ploy. And I say that for a very important reason,

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Speaker 1: because the statistics are so skewed to not give us

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Speaker 1: a real picture. And the statistics are what they're using,

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Speaker 1: these statistics to throw the fear out because as I said,

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Speaker 1: every year there's the flu season and nobody gets crazed.

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Speaker 1: They you know, get the flu shot. Nobody gets crazy

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Speaker 1: in this year, the flu season comes with a warning, raw,

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Speaker 1: I gonna die. Well, this is now that I've talked to,

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Speaker 1: have had the interviews about this not being the flu.

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Speaker 1: This is not the same strain. It is acts differently.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't behave exactly like the flu because of the

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Speaker 1: level of contagion and the mortality rate. Okay, now here's

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Speaker 1: why it's more And I use the word aggressive than

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Speaker 1: a conventional flu. Okay, and that is this conventional flus

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Speaker 1: which you are coronaviruses as well rhinoviruses or another. There's

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Speaker 1: a little family of viruses that cause the flu. Let's

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Speaker 1: understand why they cause the flu and why it's always

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Speaker 1: in colder weather. And the answer is this. These viruses

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Speaker 1: go into the respiratory system. I say why because they

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Speaker 1: need to grow, but they can't grow well at body temperatures,

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Speaker 1: grow at lower temperatures. I say, so, how can you

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Speaker 1: And the answer is the respiratory tract is breathing outside air.

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Speaker 1: And I go, yeah, So what I say, Well, in

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Speaker 1: the colder air. So that's number one. So don't go

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Speaker 1: outside you'll catch a cold, is actually true? Well level

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Speaker 1: And so the idea is this, the colder the air

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Speaker 1: a simple that's the simple thing. So that's why it's

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Speaker 1: called a cold. More or less. It comes when it's cold.

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Speaker 1: And I say, so what And I say, so, what's

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Speaker 1: what's unique about this? When it's more aggressive? And I

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Speaker 1: go because previous strains and we've had all of us

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Speaker 1: have had coronaviruses. If you've been around here for a

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Speaker 1: few years, you inevitably have hid them because that's the

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Speaker 1: standard kind of virus. And I say, but the versions

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Speaker 1: of the coronaviruses that we've had in the past we

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Speaker 1: hold a memory of. In other words, once you've been

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Speaker 1: affected by something, you hold an immunological memory. If that

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Speaker 1: thing ever comes back again that you can handle it better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you get a novel version of the coronavirus, if

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Speaker 1: to affect almost everybody because there's you don't have a

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Speaker 1: previous exposure. So then all of a sudden, it says, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: then most people are now susceptible to having an influence

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Speaker 1: But then I also go back and say, and the

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Speaker 1: extent of the influence is how how strong your immune

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Speaker 1: system is. And that's why half of the people that

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Speaker 1: virus that have no symptoms. And you go, so what now,

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Speaker 1: here's where the numbers are messing with your mind? And

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Speaker 1: I go, how do you determine death rate? In the answer,

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Speaker 1: those that have been infected. Say why is it relevant?

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Speaker 1: And I say why because immunological memory, we really don't

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Speaker 1: a total exaggeration, so false and so scary because that's

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Speaker 1: the one where they say, well two million people could, right,

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Speaker 1: But well if you got that number, if you yeah,

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Speaker 1: Because it was called the flu? We you know, we

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Speaker 1: For example, every year in the US, deaths from flu

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Speaker 1: But on the CDC, well, it's actually the statistics apartment

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Speaker 1: people die every day, but the people that have a

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Speaker 1: that's reported as the cause of death right right, were

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Speaker 1: and so then those just skew the numbers because they

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Speaker 1: you can't compare the two though. It's like comparing an

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Speaker 1: the other thing, what's the worst outside? Okay, so the

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Speaker 1: those people whose immune systems are compromised, they're already on

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Speaker 1: I say what's the extreme? And they say respiratory distress?

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Speaker 1: I say, is that lethal? And the answer is no,

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Speaker 1: it can be treated to non immune compromised. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: they're scare them your respiratory distress. Actually just find out

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Speaker 1: the statistics are beginning to show up that the use

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Speaker 1: of ventilators is in fact maybe killing people. So they're

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Speaker 1: trying these things out and people, how will they kill people?

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Speaker 1: Because it do you know, I didn't know this myself,

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Speaker 1: but to use a ventilator, you have to essentially put

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Speaker 1: a person in a comato, you know, puts them into

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Speaker 1: unconscious body comatose thing. You have to stop the muscles

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Speaker 1: from breathing, so the machine does it for you. Who

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Speaker 1: is going to come The pressure is coming from the

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Speaker 1: ventilator and so you can't have a diaphragm working, and

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Speaker 1: so they have to give person drugs which shut off

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Speaker 1: their normal ventilation system. Well, that puts them in a state,

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Speaker 1: very different mental state at that point physiologically. Okay, it

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Speaker 1: changes what they are that this procedure itself is very caustic.

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Speaker 1: It's very harmful in itself. So the idea is it's

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Speaker 1: now when they've been looking at it and ventilator studies,

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Speaker 1: so many of the doctors are saying that the ventilator,

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Speaker 1: when they gave the people the ventilators, that made them

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Speaker 1: worse because it weakens this system where it takes the

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Speaker 1: system off of its normal fighting ability. Yes, really, you

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Speaker 1: have to disconnect the system and let the autiphomatic machine

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Speaker 1: work right, and that the system is a tightly integrated

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Speaker 1: mechanism beyond anything that we could even understand. The complex

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Speaker 1: communication in the system. And you want to say, okay,

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Speaker 1: shut it down. It's like you can't just do. But

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Speaker 1: maybe the system really isn't working to its best. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if people really can't breathe, maybe that is the best

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Speaker 1: thing to do. But let me ask you again about

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Speaker 1: the I didn't get the answer I needed about the antibodies.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that even people that had this virus

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Speaker 1: that didn't show symptoms could have the antibodies. Yeah, sure, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's great again, and that's what the system is working

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Speaker 1: on on creating. Yes, And it takes about three or

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Speaker 1: four days to get from the additional the first day

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Speaker 1: of the infection to actually get the production of the antibodies.

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Speaker 1: But the point about it is this, it is relieving

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Speaker 1: the consequences of it. It's you know, reducing the aggressiveness

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Speaker 1: of it in the process of dealing with it. So

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Speaker 1: it didn't necessarily shut it write off. But since it's

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Speaker 1: already armed and begins to work, it doesn't go as

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Speaker 1: far as it would if the immune system was not working.

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