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Speaker 1: E dot com. All right, everybody, my wife's here. She

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Speaker 1: wants to call this episode a pussing the pot. A

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Speaker 1: pussing the pot.

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Speaker 3: Definitely didn't want to call it that.

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Speaker 1: Also joined by Andrew Rajalowski, who uh has then this

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Speaker 1: is your what year?

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Speaker 4: Fifteenth consecutive year.

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Speaker 1: Fifteenth consecutive year being the camp cook, the camp cook

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Speaker 1: at our fish shack.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen years of cooking, i'd say, camp manager.

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Speaker 1: Camp manager.

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Speaker 6: We're still looking for an andy over for our place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, taking a week, Yeah we can we can talk later.

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Speaker 1: Most eligible bachelor on San Juan Island.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna pach it.

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Speaker 1: I'm coming for fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: I don't come. I don't come to the fish Shack

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Speaker 3: without Andy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't like it come without Andy. Andy thinks

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Speaker 1: people like him. They think people like.

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Speaker 3: Him not only the best, the best guy to just

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Speaker 3: be around and hang out with. He also like makes

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Speaker 3: the experience because of the food.

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Speaker 1: We're going to run through your repertoire of dishes keeps

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Speaker 1: everybody happy. We're gonna run through your repertoire of dishes

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Speaker 1: because you have like a you have a someday we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we should do a book called Meals from the Coke. Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a good ideas and the very short cookbook.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just like two weeks worth of of dishes.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, it's a great idea. There you go,

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Speaker 1: pushing the pot. We'll get to.

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Speaker 7: Questions. I can't.

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Speaker 1: Well. I was also the episode Tickles Touches Takes either

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Speaker 1: one of those Tickles Touches and.

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Speaker 3: Takes, anything with tickles fish.

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Speaker 1: Fishing, Tickles Touches and Takes a fishing show. I like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, because there's tickles. Yeah, when you're fishing, there's tickles,

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Speaker 1: there's touches, there's takes. So tickles touches and takes, there's

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Speaker 8: Like grabs and nibbles and smacks and bumps.

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Speaker 3: Or pushing the pot, and especially because you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had to say it that way because yesterday

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell this whole story. It's a great story yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So now and then I'll say something to annoying my

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Speaker 1: wife and it won't take. So we're pulling shrimp pots

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Speaker 1: and I was expressing my enthusiasm to catch an octopus,

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Speaker 1: and I said, I hope we get a big octopus.

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Speaker 1: Then a while later I said pussing the pot and

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Speaker 1: she had zero response. So then I had to say

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Speaker 3: I was annoyed, and I got the.

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Speaker 1: Response I was. Then I got the response I was after,

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Speaker 6: Do you hit that line every once in a while

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Speaker 1: Just to see if it's still So I've been saying,

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Speaker 1: I've been saying, uh, seth ye, owner of the part

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Speaker 1: partial owner of the Rotten A Frame, his co owner

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Morris, a co owner wife Colin, her wife Kelsey Morris,

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Speaker 1: of the Rotten a Frame, and also the wonderful art

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Speaker 1: gallery in three Forks, Montana. Boom, Yeah, plug the gallery.

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Speaker 1: I've been telling you. She come on and plug your gas.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Thanks. The studio gallery and Three Forks literally the

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Speaker 7: only art establishment in town. Three Forks, Montana. It's just

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Speaker 7: I sold agricultural implements.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she sold agricultural implements and wanted to. You know,

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Speaker 1: Left your jade day job, opened a gallery where you

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Speaker 1: sell your own work the works of others. Yes, and

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Speaker 7: Do you people come and hang out and watch me

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Speaker 7: You can go in there and take your time and

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Speaker 1: Know, and you have your own work in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I have a wall, and then everybody else is

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Speaker 7: are really a talented, talented collection. So everybody's different, nobody

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Speaker 1: No, it's great. It's beautiful, and your work looks great,

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Speaker 1: My daughter's close on.

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Speaker 7: Your heels is we're gonna work on that.

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Speaker 1: She's an inspiring painter.

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Speaker 7: I brought her some supplies.

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Speaker 1: And also joining us today is my son, Jimbobwey. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, Buddy Good? I told him to keep his

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Speaker 1: answers very brief and to be very respectful, didn't I Yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: Ill Good have a job he's doing That would have

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Speaker 1: normally taken him a long time to say all that,

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: So here, we're gonna talk about a couple of things

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell my my amazing octopus story with witnesses.

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Speaker 7: I haven't heard this yet, by the way, So get ready.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of versions. I have a feeling already

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Speaker 3: what versions of the octopus story?

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Speaker 1: No, this is one version.

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Speaker 7: I'm imagining the Kraken.

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Speaker 3: You have your version. I have a feeling my version

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because your version was experienced from as far

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Speaker 3: We had different motivations.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the back of the boat.

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Speaker 2: Mom's was also more of a near death experience, and

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Speaker 1: Was picturing us dying, and yeah, I was picturing us

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Speaker 8: The fact, the fact that an octopus can give you

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Speaker 1: Uh, and he just got back from Spain wherein he

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Speaker 1: was eating octopus.

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Speaker 1: They obviously haven't caught on to that my Octopus Teacher

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Speaker 1: cover all things octopus. Oh and also when we talk

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Speaker 1: tell it later. Yeah, Uh, Maui, this is an interesting story.

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Speaker 1: You know what when UH programs like Hunters for the

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Speaker 1: wild game and then the wild game will go, they'll

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Speaker 1: usually grind it to burger. Generally you donate dear me,

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Speaker 1: dear mea gets ground to Burger and it goes to

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Speaker 1: families in need. Oddly, in Hawaii that was not legal,

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Speaker 7: They have no predators, right.

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Speaker 1: No, nothing. So up until HB one three eight to

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Speaker 1: But Governor Josh Green, who I know nothing about, just

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Speaker 1: The problem now they have the bottleneck now is they

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Speaker 1: has very low food autonomy. They're heavily reliant on outside

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Speaker 1: and so they're trying to clean up a system or

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Speaker 1: to the needy. You guys will think anything about that, Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Buddy?

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Speaker 2: I don't really understand it.

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Speaker 1: But okay, there's an island, Yes, it has a bunch

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're in.

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Speaker 3: When we went to MAUI spent time with.

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Speaker 1: It was illegal to shoot a deer and donate the

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Speaker 1: meat for a nonprofit, to take deer meat and donate

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Speaker 1: it to people who don't have enough food.

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Speaker 2: Well, I understand that part of it.

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Speaker 1: Now it's legal.

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Speaker 1: So you do understand?

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Speaker 3: What's the argument against doing that?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: I know, in just being in the food industry, you

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Speaker 1: regulatory change to stop the poisoning campaign of predators and

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Speaker 1: other predator protections. So when they banned finning, like in

445
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: international waters and some state waters, you used to be

446
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: able to go out and just collect shark fins, which

447
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: are valuable. Then they changed it where a vessel. I

448
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: might have my numbers wrong, but it's something like a

449
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: vessel that's transporting shark parts. Fins can only comprise I

450
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: don't have the numbers exactly right, but fins. It's something

451
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: like this, fins can only comprise thirty percent of your

452
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: total shark part hall that you bring into port, which

453
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: makes it economically like infeasible to effectively shark. Other states

454
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: have outright said other states of outright just done away

455
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: with any kind of commercial shark harvest. So you're seeing

456
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: just shark numbers. We're seeing the effects of all the

457
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: all the shark protection where this recovery and expansion of

458
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: shark numbers. But this is trying to make a hook.

459
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Speaker 1: So this article in Time, No, this one's from Bloomberg

460
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Speaker 1: to I'm looking at two articles, one from Time talking

461
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: about a lot of shark bites, one from Blueberg that

462
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: they're expanding the drone fleet in New York, which looks

463
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: for sharks. So they're gonna spend a million bucks deploying

464
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: forty two drones to scout beaches so you can put

465
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Speaker 1: a drone up in the air and scout for sharp arks.

466
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: And they're saying, how say they wanted to see for

467
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: you folks who didn't study journalism when you were youngsters,

468
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: you need a hook. So yet not for fishing sharks,

469
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: but for journalism your hook would be I was almost

470
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: confused there, why now? Why now? Right? So you go

471
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: to an editor, if you're a writer, You're like, hey,

472
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: I want to write a thing about cattle rustling and

473
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: they're like, well, why, now, what's the hook? Well, this

474
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: is hyperlinked record shattering heat driving lots of people to

475
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Speaker 1: the beaches where they might get bit by a shark.

476
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Speaker 3: I mean that is terrifying though. Yeah, man as a

477
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Speaker 3: mom too, having kids in the ocean.

478
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Speaker 5: So if they collecked all this edit from the drone footage,

479
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Speaker 5: then what's the.

480
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Speaker 1: Solution there to close? They just use it to watch

481
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: for sharks cause they got to close the beach.

482
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Speaker 5: Are they beaches or do they just close them all?

483
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Speaker 5: Close them?

484
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Speaker 1: They're putting a drone up when people swiming, they're putting

485
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: a drowne up to watch for great whites and stuff

486
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: coming in.

487
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: Wait, great, why great whites? Aren't they like the least

488
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: of like likely to attack people's.

489
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're bad muthered liquors, and so, I mean there's

490
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: probably other sharks as well, but I think that's a

491
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: real scary one. That's not who's biting folk.

492
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I think it's like.

493
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: More Jimmy, you were just swimming with smelling your own

494
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: over here?

495
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: Did you pause? No, you're still wrong.

496
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Speaker 3: I think we could probably take a little break to

497
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: make sure the shark's not gonna explode.

498
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Speaker 1: It's not, because if it was gonna blowup, it already

499
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: would have done it. Because the pilot.

500
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: Lights lit kind of looked.

501
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: Here's a correction, not a correction on a recent app. So,

502
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: my lovely bride and I years ago this you might

503
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: remember this. This is the kind of thing, you know,

504
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: you remember this long ago? We were in Salta, Argentina, yep,

505
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Speaker 1: And we went to see those inc and yep children

506
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: that were killed and sacrificed on a high mountaintop and

507
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: they were perfectly preserved. And I believe the one that

508
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: was on display when we were there had been struck

509
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: by lightning.

510
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: Yes it was the girl.

511
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: So okay, so way back picture that. Whoa, it's sort

512
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: of like it's not really but kind of like this okay,

513
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: fourteen ninety one, sure, okay, so you're it's this last

514
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: glimpse of the Incan Empire pre European contact. And they

515
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: had these children already told this story once to bear

516
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: with me if you've heard it. So they were able

517
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: to get stable isotopes on these children, and these these

518
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: children that I'm speaking of, these three kids kind of

519
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: my kids ages.

520
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 7: Better watch yourself.

521
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: Stable isotopes from their bodies suggest that they had lived

522
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 1: on potatoes their entire life.

523
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: You about the propane smell, Sorry, I feel.

524
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Like we're list.

525
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like it's like valid enough to

526
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: check out.

527
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: I had to change propane tanks. All of the pilots

528
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: went out. I was trying to get the burner lit.

529
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: I was, oh, the tank's out. So I opened two

530
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: doors for cross ventilation.

531
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: Should we open up?

532
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: When in lit? The pilots heated up. This reheat coffee.

533
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: There's a residual, there's an additive and pro paane. What's

534
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: that stuff called?

535
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: To make you smell it, so you don't.

536
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't smell it. There's an additive. And one

537
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: day my buddy, my late buddy who just to bring

538
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: this full circle, his picture is hanging above the vacuum

539
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: steeler over there. He one time was in which I

540
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: think I believe he was in Wichita, Kansas, and the

541
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: whole town smelled like it was going to blow up.

542
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: And it wound up being the place that makes the

543
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: ship you put in pro paane to give it its smell,

544
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: had had a leak. They leaked the stuff you put

545
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: in propane to make propane smell. So he said, it

546
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: gave you the unnerving feeling that you were going to

547
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: blow the entire planet up if you lit a match.

548
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

549
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to open up the other door because

550
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: I feel like maybe it's psychosomatic, but it is hot

551
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: here too.

552
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: Where was I James? Or was I stable? The children

553
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: child are eating potatoes. So these kids had just eaten taters,

554
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: it seems, and then they had experienced months of this

555
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: very diet full of meats and fishes and things, and

556
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: they had these children were sacked and buried in this

557
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: little rock cavern with literally hundreds of emblems and little

558
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: treasures and carvings and gold and ivory items, and it

559
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: seems as though they had selected some children for whatever

560
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: however they selected them. They had selected some children and

561
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: taken these children on a tour through the Incan Empire,

562
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: and throughout this tour were regaled with with all of

563
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: these treasures and offerings. Then the children were taken up

564
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: to this peak like fourteen thousand feet and gotten. They

565
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: got them drunk on a rice. They got them drunk

566
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: on a nut rice. They got them drunk on a

567
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: fermented potato beverage I believe, I can't remember what it.

568
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: A fermented corn drink. They were giving them cocoa leaves,

569
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: which helps with elevation. They got them drunk, and it

570
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: seems like the thirteen year old girl maybe realized what

571
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: was going to happen and didn't like it because they

572
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: had struck her in the head, But the other younger

573
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: kids were just fine. It seems they got them wasted, yeah,

574
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: arranged them in this rock cavern on top of this peak,

575
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: and just left them there as offerings.

576
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 3: I thought the strike in the head was from the lightning. No.

577
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Then, over the subsequent centuries, at some point in time,

578
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: one of them was struck by lightning.

579
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 7: How were they so well preserved?

580
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Just we're getting to my correction. It's so cold. And

581
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I had years ago, when I was working on an

582
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: article about freeze dried food, I had read up on sublimation,

583
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: and I had later read that the moisture and that

584
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: they sublimated, meaning the moisture in their bodies went from

585
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 1: a frozen to a gaseous state and never melted. So

586
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: you could still see like they were buried with feathers

587
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: and things, and it's perfect. You could recognize the child.

588
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: They only they're only allowed to display one at a time,

589
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: and it's like you're looking at a it's like you

590
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: expect the child to wake up.

591
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 7: That is freaky geez.

592
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Very well preserved, but centuries old. Right. So I had

593
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: talked about how they were sublimated, and some person wrote

594
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: in with a very intimidating correction that they were not

595
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: in fact sublimated. And I read that correction and I

596
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: took my lumps and said, okay, at doing took my lumps.

597
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: Then a guy rode in to say, that guy doesn't

598
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: know what the hell he's talking about. God, they did sublimate.

599
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: He said, you can go watch. Go out on a

600
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: dry winter day. He points out to Montana Souse. I

601
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: live there, he says, go out and watch on a

602
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: dry winter day, snow on a hillside. It never gets

603
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: it never gets above freezing, and snow on the hillside

604
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: it does vanished. Nothing's wet, it just vanishes. You're watching that,

605
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: So that snow sublimates. That could be like not melting,

606
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: it's just evaporating.

607
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: That could be a new game. You know how you

608
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: like the game alive or dead, and you talk about

609
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: that or alive. This could be like sublimated.

610
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about a freaking thing and then talk about

611
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: whether it's sublimated or not. Subamate shams all the time.

612
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: This guy's saying, so take that.

613
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 3: So you take yeah, the think I am or you

614
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: mean that guy is?

615
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: Oh, the guy that wrote in is me and him

616
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: are right?

617
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: The last guy. I want the first guy to jump

618
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: back in right now.

619
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: You'll hear from him. Here's the thing that has nothing

620
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: to do with anything. And if someone wrote in about

621
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: an interesting thing and I don't think they really get

622
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, but it's still interesting, does that

623
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: make sense? Yep? The streisand effect.

624
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 7: Mm.

625
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Okay, you've familiar with this.

626
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 7: I can't define it for you, but yeah.

627
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: And we have covered exhaustively and will continue to cover

628
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: the Wyoming corner crossing case because of its implications to

629
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: land access. Meaning there are millions of federally managed public

630
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: lands that you can't get to. But if you were

631
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: allowed to corner cross meaning you picture a checkerboard land ownership,

632
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: and the black squares are public and the white squares

633
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: are private. If you were if it was legal to

634
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: without stepping on the white, to step from the black

635
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: to the black right, that would open up millions of

636
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: acres of access. It's a contentious issue. So we've covered

637
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: a case that the whole world is watching. Well, that's

638
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: say the whole country is watching. The whole country is

639
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: watching this Wyoming corner crossing case. And I have repeatedly

640
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: over the years of covering this brought up that I

641
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: equate them, and then I apologize for the analogy. I

642
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: like to point out that they were not.

643
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: That.

644
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: Initially I thought that the Missouri hunters that did the

645
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: famous corner crossing in Wyoming which led to this big

646
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: legal challenge, I thought that they were activists, I assumed

647
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: they were activists who were trying to get arrested in

648
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: order to test something in the courts. And I had

649
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: said I had imagined them as being a Rosa Parks

650
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: like figure doing civil disobedience. But they were just dudes

651
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: from Missouri who thought they found a sweet hunting spot.

652
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: Oh no, this guy's comment does make a little bit

653
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: of sense. They never had the intention. And we were

654
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: talking about how now this landowner, No, this guy's exactly right.

655
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: The more I think this through and I'll get to it,

656
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: the landowner used to have a problem with four dudes

657
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: from Missouri now and then corner crossing onto his place.

658
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: But this guy now is gonna have it's gonna you

659
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: know that famous picture during the Alaska Gold Rush of

660
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: people coming out of wait here and going up that

661
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: going up that mountain to get into the Yukon. That's

662
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: what this dude's corner is gonna look like from now on.

663
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 7: The stris in effect, is like when you draw attention

664
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 7: to something, all.

665
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: These guy's exactly right. Had that guy just shut up, yeah,

666
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: instead of those Missouri dudes, listen, I see what y'all

667
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: are up to here, And once you come over and

668
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: have a cup of coffee. Let's just keep this between us.

669
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: You keep hunting because if this gets out, it's gonna

670
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: be a shit show. Yeah, but it's out. So Barbara

671
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Streisand I'd never heard this. Barbara Streisand long ago was

672
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: in a had a photo of her home in Malibu taken.

673
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: It was about coastal erosion. So a journalist was covering

674
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 1: coastal erosion and catches a photo of Barbo Streisand outside

675
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: her home in Malibu, which was suffering from coastal erosion.

676
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: She wanted it taken down. It somehow had wound up

677
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: in the public record, and she wanted her photo of

678
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: her outside of her house in Malibu not part of

679
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: the public record. She takes it to court. Prior to

680
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: her taking it to court, the story even though the

681
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: photo was part of the public record, the photo had

682
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: been accessed six times twice by her own lawyer. Okay,

683
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: after the lawsuit became public in the news, it racked

684
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: up hundreds of thousands of downloads. That's the Streisand effect

685
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: that Also guy wrote in speaking of we talked about

686
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: we had the guest on David Grant, author of the wager,

687
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: making another one of David Grand's books, Killers of the

688
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Flower Moon into a movie. Stgel Simpson is in that movie,

689
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: and someone wanted just let us know that Stgil Simpson

690
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: was also in a zombie movie in twenty nineteen. Thanks

691
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: for the note called the Dead Don't Die. Big thing

692
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: about another starvation experience, We're not going to get into.

693
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: And the last thing I want to cover is this,

694
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: And James, I think you'll take great interest in this.

695
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Ready for this, yep, especially because buddy, you don't know

696
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: this because you were too little. You know that photo

697
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: on our fridge. You guys always putting the magnets over

698
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: everybody's body parts. Oh yeah, because your kids are all skinny.

699
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: Dipping in the river right there, This what he's talking

700
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: about was right there in Caliicoon on the Delaware River.

701
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: We used to fish there a lot, and you like

702
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: to fish there when you were super little. I grew up.

703
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: This is a guy right in what's his name, Dan?

704
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I grew up along the Upper Delaware River between Callicoon

705
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: and Hancock. That was our float. We would float from

706
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Calicoon to hand Hancock, a stretch of river in which

707
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: we caught nine species of game fish. My grandfather first

708
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: started tapping for bullhead in the river back in the

709
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: nineteen forties. He would get so many bullhead that he

710
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: would sell them to local bait shops who would buy them,

711
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: who would sell them to small mouth bass fishermen. Three

712
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 1: to five inch bullhead, he says, the best small mouth

713
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: bass bait, and he would tap for him. Now you

714
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: probably wonder what that means. Yeah, what that means, I'll

715
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: tell you. It involves waiting in zero to eighteen inches

716
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: of water along the bank zero and you gotta get

717
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: a big hammer. Okay, walk up to a rock. Let

718
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: me know when you raise your hand. When you know

719
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: this is going Andy and Seth have raised their hands.

720
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: You walk up to a rock with a big hammer,

721
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: I imagine, yeah, or.

722
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 7: Another rock because it's underneath what.

723
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: Then you flip the rock. It will stun the bullhead

724
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: and knock it unconscious. Its white belly will be turned up,

725
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: scoop it up, put in a perforated bucket that's out

726
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: sitting in the current, and if within a few minutes,

727
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: you'll be woken up and back to fine.

728
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: Oh there, I guess that hot little tip stunner.

729
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: He says. Wally dogs and eels won't lean the loone either.

730
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: He has poked around online and has never ever found

731
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: anyone talking about tapping bullheads. Tubers, kayakers, canoers from the

732
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: city come by, see you out there with the hammer,

733
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: and they just look at you.

734
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 7: I imagine.

735
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Speaker 8: So I used to fish in Delaware a bit, but

736
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 8: it was further downstream around stocked it and then Washington's crossing.

737
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: Oh what fish there? O patriotic?

738
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 8: Yeah?

739
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: What if you just like hit the rock too hard

740
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: with the hammer and just kind of crushed the bullhead?

741
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think you ought to walk out the door

742
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: here and get a hammer and go see if you

743
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: can tap some sculpings.

744
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can some.

745
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Extra tools and then leave your tools down below the tideline.

746
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Then I find them later and scream at you once. Yeah.

747
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy the r day lost a pair of my fishing flyers,

748
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: and I got a text from Brody who's up here

749
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: with us, And Brody said, Jimmy deep six, you're fishing

750
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: plyers and sweating bullets. Yeah, I was down here at

751
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: the end.

752
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: We're working on stuff at our place, and Jimmy paddles

753
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 6: over and he goes, hey, Seys, I got a.

754
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: Question for you.

755
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 6: I was like, what, he goes, what would you do

756
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: if you lost your dad's flyers?

757
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: And Jimmy went to multiple neighbors. He went and asked

758
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: our other neighbor, what advice did he give you?

759
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: To be up front and he won't be mad, but

760
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: he first offered just to give us new pairs.

761
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 7: Of flyerst sneaky.

762
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: Uh, this we haven't covered. This is an old story

763
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: now and it was covered on the meat eater dot com.

764
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to touch on it real quick.

765
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Speaker 1: This would be a good one. This is for James.

766
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: New Zealand has a feral cat problem. James and they

767
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: and they every year they try to kill some millions

768
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: of cats or whatever. They used to have a thing

769
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: where they would get a bunch of youngsters from school

770
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: to go out and kill cats. It's a biosecurity issue.

771
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: Probu well.

772
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: The one piece of advice to the youngsters don't kill

773
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: any people's pets.

774
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: What how would you really tell the difference.

775
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: You win money killing cats. Collar is proud of the difference.

776
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: Animal welfare groups have shut it down. They would prefer

777
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: professionals be out killing those cats and not kids.

778
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: I just.

779
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: For why in the world. Kids wouldn't be allowed if

780
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: the country's trying to get rid of cats, that they

781
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: can't do their patriotic duty and get rid of cats.

782
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: Because I feel like there's like a slippery slope.

783
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 7: Killing cats is like the number one sign of a Yeah.

784
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Steve, you used to kill cats for cash. Yeah,

785
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: so that's probably why you feel like.

786
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: I used to use some cat work. But it's important

787
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: to point out cat work for dairy farmers.

788
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm not saying that you were in this latter category.

789
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 3: They were just talking about like sociopathic children that were

790
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: just killing cats.

791
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: Five bucks cat for dairy farmers who were trying to

792
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: keep to control feline distemper.

793
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: I feel like, how do you.

794
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: Tell a kid like go out and fill that cat

795
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: but not another cat? Like, wouldn't that be confusing?

796
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Well, first off, I'm a kid, so I can say this. Yep.

797
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: Kids are dumb, especially when you were to give a

798
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: kid a weapon and tell him to look for something

799
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: on a cat that would make it different from another cat. Like,

800
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that they'd be very good at following

801
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: those rules.

802
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: You guys aren't ever gonna be on this show again.

803
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying anything against it. I'm just saying that.

804
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 7: Accurate.

805
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, organizers, where do this?

806
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 4: Where's this article.

807
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: From BBC h organizers of the North Canterbury Hunting Competition

808
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: announced the cancelation of the cat event on Tuesdays, saying

809
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: they had received vile in inappropriate emails, probably one probably

810
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: for my wife. We are disappointed and apologize for those

811
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: who are excited to be involved in something that is

812
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: about protecting our native birds and other vulnerable species.

813
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 7: This is a it's a tough one. But do we

814
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 7: have to involve the kids? It's my question, like, you know.

815
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: If only people who knew the damage wild cats cause

816
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: around the place one local route, they also affect our farming.

817
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Goes on to point out all the right and now

818
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: the author of the article in the end even comes

819
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: around to the recognition that they should kill these cats,

820
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: but they would like to see professionals killing.

821
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: How do you be a professional killing cats? Doesn't seem

822
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: like I don't.

823
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Know, you just call yourself, I don't know.

824
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: You just got like kids name tame the little badge

825
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: owner that says, I'm appreciate.

826
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: They start trying to buy it back and then adding

827
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: cats to the hit list, though, is a politically contentious issue.

828
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: It's not a question of whether these invasive felines should

829
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: be cold, but who should do the killing. Then they

830
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: go on to have a nice little cliche. It's not

831
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: rocket science. Not rocket science cat killing. It should be

832
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: undertaken only by experienced people using approved and proven humane methods,

833
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: certainly not children.

834
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 3: How young is too from.

835
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: Handling, handing them guns and desensitizing them to animal cruelty.

836
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: We should be teaching them empathy toward animals.

837
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: How young is too young to kill a cat?

838
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 7: Steve?

839
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: How young is too young to kill a rat? I

840
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: remember your kid being killing a rat? So young he

841
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: shot in his underwear. Yeah, I got him out of bed.

842
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: We got him out of bed to get it.

843
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like five or six.

844
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: And look at how pathological he is now.

845
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: I'm asking a legitimate question, like.

846
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: How how old was he then? He was? He was

847
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: in bed before it got dark out. When was the

848
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: last time you did that?

849
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 7: Two weeks ago?

850
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: Sticking in the summer times exactly?

851
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Alright, So I'm gonna tell my I'm gonna tell my

852
00:48:52,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: octaal story, all right, So pulling shrimp pots and uh,

853
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: the other day we got a small octopus pulling shrimp pots,

854
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: and we went out. We were having a hell of

855
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: a terrible pull. One pot had I don't know what happened.

856
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: One pot had You never see this zero had nothing

857
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: in it? Not a hermit crab. Really, that's rare. I

858
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I feel like it landed on

859
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: something or.

860
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't know the bait was not.

861
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: I can't forgot bait untouched. Not a hermit crab. It

862
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: must I can't picture what it landed on. It must

863
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: have landed on. Like I don't know nothing. You get

864
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: irish lords. Here's what all you get. You get squat lobsters,

865
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: Irish lords. I've seen rockfish come up in them. Uh, starfish,

866
00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: juvenile tanners, sea stars, starfish, hermit crabs, molluscs, coon, striped shrimp,

867
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: spot prawns, you name it, different, box crabs.

868
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 4: Anything down there that's hungry.

869
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: Nothing come up in this thing. And I got to saying,

870
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: if we could get a big octopus. It turned this

871
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: day around. And then I said, you know, so we're

872
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: pulling pots, and I love my my shrimp. And Mentor

873
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: Ron Layton once told me pulling pots always have a

874
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: gaff ready, because he said, now and then a big puss.

875
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: I know, it's just it's speaking of pathological A.

876
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: Big octopus, thank you. What's the diameter of a hole

877
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: on a shrimp pot?

878
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 4: Andy? Oh? Yeah, what is it? Two to three inches?

879
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: Two inch diameter hole? A big octopus? You got a

880
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: twenty pound octopus get into a shrimp pot by putting

881
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: one arm in and then they squished their head in

882
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: and they bench. You get all their arms in there,

883
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: and they'll get in there, and a lot of times

884
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: you'll pull it up and the octopus just be in

885
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: there and you it defies logic how he can wiggle

886
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: himself in there, but they can just get in through

887
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the funnel. But my shrimping mentor taught me that. Now

888
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: and then you get a big one and he'll ride

889
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: the trap up, and it's good to have a gaff

890
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: so you can get him and drag him in the boat.

891
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: And he in particularly, would would make a wonderful smoked octopus.

892
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: And he would jar it, and he would jar it

893
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: without member, not a lot of liquid. He would like

894
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: tenderize it, boil it, smoke it. He'd smoke the arms,

895
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: cut the arms up and then and then jar them,

896
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: but only like a quarter inch of liquid. It Basically

897
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: you could rattle it around. The octopus pressure canned octopus,

898
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: very good dish. His mother was Simshian, that was her

899
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: uh native Alaskan. So he always told me that we're

900
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: pulling pots, and and I'm always stand up on the

901
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: bottle of the boat and stare down and see the

902
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: pot come up. I don't know why, and I can't

903
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: even make out what I'm seeing, like it's like it

904
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: doesn't like what I'm seeing doesn't register. And what happens

905
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: is a pot comes up and it is draped with

906
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: an octopus the likes of which I have never seen

907
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: in my life.

908
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 7: What color was it?

909
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: Orange?

910
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Orange?

911
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 7: Bright like bright orange.

912
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: That's cool. Can you check me on this? If I

913
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: was holding the end of one of his arms right here, yeah,

914
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy could get not to that counter over there, but

915
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: a good way toward that counter, and he'd beholding the

916
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: other arm.

917
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 7: Geez, oh my god, I wish I could.

918
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: Well, I'll get to what all how strong this thing was?

919
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 8: That's like what sixteen eighteen feet now on that big.

920
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: But way the meat of Jimmy.

921
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 7: How big was the head like that's what pull the.

922
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: Man on it like Seth's waist, you know, maybe like

923
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: my weight. Just understandything like it? I mean arms like

924
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: like arms like my thighs at the base.

925
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 5: I'm not ye the video that I saw where it

926
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 5: came off of the main body, where all the legs

927
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 5: came together.

928
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 7: We have a video.

929
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm massive, Katie. Yes, I were you freaking out?

930
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know they got like that. I grabbed the gaff.

931
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: No, could you see all this whole? Like my fishing

932
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: mentor always told me to have a gaff ready. The

933
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 3: gaff was not ready. You did not have the gaff.

934
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: I did grab the gaf. I gaffed it.

935
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: No, you said, hand me the gaff, and then the

936
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: gaff was stuck, and you give me.

937
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 9: The damn gas.

938
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 7: So you did not have the.

939
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: Gaff ready when you were standing at the.

940
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: Front of the boat.

941
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: Left so much chaos. Always say to have.

942
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 3: The gas ready, yes, which you did not.

943
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Well, not that big of a boat, he.

944
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: Said, hand me the gas, and then we got you

945
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: the gas.

946
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: I left detail. He was carrying shrimp under his arms

947
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: like person hall in firewood. The first thing I was

948
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: doing was getting all of our shrimp back because she

949
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: was like unfurling himself from the thing, and I'm throwing

950
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: shrimp into the boat. He's got like remember that time

951
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: one thing he opened up, Tell what happened?

952
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: He was so he just yeah, I had a whole

953
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 5: cash of all kind of stuff that.

954
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: Was he snag on accident.

955
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 10: Yeah.

956
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: I pulled that thing up and went it unfurled it. Yeah,

957
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 5: I just had a cash of all kinds of.

958
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Goods like stuff he's bringing home with him. This guy,

959
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's all tangled and everything, and I'm just

960
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: fireing shrimp into the boat.

961
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 9: True, that's true.

962
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

963
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 7: I have a question about carri shrimp.

964
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: Everybody's got them all wrapped up?

965
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 7: Were his eyes and how big are they?

966
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: Like?

967
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 7: How big?

968
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: So if my fist is his mantle, his eyes are like.

969
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 7: Here, how big were they? You have a visual. I'm

970
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: just trying to it happens looked.

971
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: Happened so quickly. But also also I was a little

972
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: bit reluctant to give you the gaff and I realized

973
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: what this is is I'm gonna really, you know, cast

974
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: myself here as someone who is a show an anime

975
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: of the show. But after the cat conversation. But I

976
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: like my initial instinct was not like to kill him

977
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 3: gaff that thing.

978
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: She thought it was a bit much. I was like

979
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: that a little octopus, but she thought that this was

980
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: a large I was totally.

981
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: In awe of it. And and also I was like

982
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: I said to you, I was like, what's the what's

983
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: your plan? Like, what's your plan? What are you going

984
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: to do?

985
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 9: Like get it into the boat?

986
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: And then I mean this thing was like as big

987
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: as the boat, and so like he was thinking like

988
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: next step, like grab it, But then it was like,

989
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: well what if it grabs him? What if it like.

990
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 7: Pulls him in?

991
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: You know? And then I'm like, also, like that's a

992
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 3: huge octopus. Do we need that much octopus? That we're

993
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: really going to eat that much octopus?

994
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: That yes, you're saying all this. I told her I'm

995
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: going to smoke it.

996
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

997
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: So she's like, not gonna do this, and I'm like,

998
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: maybe we just like watch it, yeah and then let

999
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: it go.

1000
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 7: That might have been my reaction, but I have no

1001
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 7: idea what I would.

1002
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'll get to it. That's all right, that's not

1003
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: now for all you people who are all hopped up

1004
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: on the octopus teacher, My octopus teacher. I'm gonna tell

1005
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: you something. We catch you you. How often do you

1006
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: catch octopus with all eight of his arms? Yeah?

1007
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 4: Not that often.

1008
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: They always losing their arms. I think, Hell, but tear

1009
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: them all.

1010
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: Some asshole with a gaff.

1011
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: No, I want you to know that this story, Like,

1012
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: just to be clear, octopus can lose his whole damn arm.

1013
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: We recently called an octopus that was running out of arms.

1014
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: Were you there for that?

1015
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: No?

1016
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: He had like missing one, he had a half of one.

1017
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 7: Look rough, they regrow, right.

1018
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: They regrow their arms. He's unfurling himself and I'm trying

1019
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: to get our shrimp back and whatnot. And then I

1020
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: take the gaff. And so this is a hal of

1021
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: a gaff. And imagine a night stick, like an old

1022
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: fashioned cop from an old fashioned cop movie from back

1023
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: when they had like Union Busters and whatnot, like an

1024
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: old fashioned cop night stick, a little mini baseball bat,

1025
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: and out of it, at a forty five degree angle

1026
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: is a stainless steel spike about three eighths diameter at

1027
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: the base maybe comes to a fine point. No, barb,

1028
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: what's that spike? Seven inches long? Eight inch spike coming

1029
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: at a forty five degree angle and it's you into

1030
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: a fish. I take the gaff and I and he

1031
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: he's got these big, meaty arms, and I fought into

1032
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: the base of one of his arms, okay, and I'm

1033
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: trying to get him in the boat. But you can't

1034
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: budge this thing because at this point he's latched on

1035
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: to the underside of the boat.

1036
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 7: And probably so strong to.

1037
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: The point where I've got a foot over the boat.

1038
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm straddling the gunwale trying to use one of my

1039
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: feet to get his arms freed up.

1040
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 7: So he detached from the pot and attached to the boat.

1041
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Yes, stuck like all over the boat, and I'm trying

1042
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: to pry him free.

1043
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: He's looking he's looking back at me and Kate and

1044
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 3: these guys are He's like, so you're just gonna stand there,

1045
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: just stare, just stand there, and we're like, what do

1046
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: you want us to do?

1047
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 1: So then finally her friend also named Katie, springs into

1048
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: action and she grabbed was a harpoon shaft. But we

1049
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: don't have my big dive knife that I keep strapped

1050
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: to the boat for bleeding fish. That's not in there.

1051
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't in my normal boat. We don't have

1052
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: the harpoon head. We just have a harpoon shaft, and

1053
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: we're trying to use the harpoon shaft to pry him off.

1054
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 7: But you don't have eight people.

1055
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: The next day, this morning, I realized I could have

1056
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: just started harvesting the arms one at a time.

1057
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: That would have been so upsetting.

1058
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: Which didn't occur to me at the time. Just to

1059
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: start harvesting arms, yeah, growing back and do catch and release.

1060
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: That's like a sustainable harvest. So I got him, and

1061
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: he's working his way down away from me under the boat,

1062
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: and I am giving it all of my power holding

1063
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: the scalff handle.

1064
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 3: Well, then you gave the gaff to Katie, you said,

1065
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: the whole and then she was holding that.

1066
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: I was trying to pry him free. Yeah, and then

1067
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: she couldn't hold it any longer. I grabbed it strong, Yeah,

1068
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: and I grabbed that, and the octopus is now going

1069
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: down down the skiff in a way, and I got

1070
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: where my arms are underwater and you can't get a grip,

1071
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: and eventually I just he overpowers me. Jeez.

1072
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1073
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: And the last we saw him was just all what

1074
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I have no idea what the

1075
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: thing Wade it was was. He ain't, he ain't. At

1076
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: a point gone, I got to think I might catch him.

1077
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Tonight we got we have.

1078
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: To take Halbert slime all around the entire boat to

1079
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: make a slick and carry hand grenage.

1080
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm never play the pistol.

1081
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: I think the story ended the way it was supposed to.

1082
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: I know that kills you.

1083
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 7: But you know he's down there. That's the most exciting

1084
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 7: thing today.

1085
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: I dropped the and I go with duh pus in

1086
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: the pot.

1087
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, stop saying it. But seriously, I don't think.

1088
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 3: I think if we had gotten it in the boat, we.

1089
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: Actually would have had a tussle on our hand. Yeah, yeah, absolute.

1090
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: I showed you that picture that when we got a

1091
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: couple of years back. That was big.

1092
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 3: That was a fraction of the side.

1093
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: Here's what my shrimp and mentor taught me. This is

1094
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,959
Speaker 1: gonna be upsetting to some people, so turn the show

1095
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: off if you're going to be upset by this. My

1096
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: shrimp and mentor, Ron Layton, taught me this. He can

1097
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: very quickly invert. He turns the mantle inside out and

1098
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: it works good. You can turn the mantle inside you.

1099
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: I've done it, the one I showed you in that picture.

1100
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: Andy is taller than me. What does that do to

1101
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: you turn the mantel inside out? It basically shuts it

1102
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: down and you just take a knife. And how does

1103
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: that cut its brain right off? Well, how does that

1104
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: dow does turn?

1105
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: What?

1106
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can just invert it, you turn it right

1107
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: inside out.

1108
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: But that wouldn't That would mean that you would have

1109
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: to it was really strong, and that would just assume

1110
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 3: that you would be able to get a grip on

1111
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: it to be able to do that, which I think

1112
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 3: might have been harder.

1113
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: I believe we would have had a fight on our hands,

1114
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: but I believe we would have gotten to take care of.

1115
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: So.

1116
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 7: Andy.

1117
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: When I came back and told you what happened, you

1118
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: told me a story that you had heard.

1119
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I've seen a couple of different I've been

1120
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 5: on a boat where we actually snagged one with a

1121
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 5: mooching rig and very similar.

1122
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: It came out. It was early days.

1123
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 5: Actually we were fishing in a canoe out on the

1124
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 5: west side. Well, you had actually fished in that canoe, yeah,

1125
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 5: And we had actually hooked a big one and it

1126
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 5: came up and launched itself to the side of the

1127
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 5: canoe and the same thing but it was still attached

1128
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 5: to the hooks. So we had pliers in that trying

1129
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 5: to grab the hook out of this thing because we're

1130
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 5: you know, didn't want to lose our rod.

1131
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: Set handle in the canoe.

1132
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 4: No, no, God no.

1133
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 5: And actually had a hold of with the pliers on

1134
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 5: the hook, and that same thing started moving along side

1135
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: of that boat, and it was so strong that it

1136
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 5: basically pulled itself right off. You know, it was close

1137
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: to losing the pliers, but the point where it just

1138
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 5: got almost out of reach, it ripped the webbing out

1139
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 5: of it, and it same thing that just disappeared, right.

1140
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 5: But I was also talking to an old time fisherman

1141
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 5: at one point where he similar story where they he

1142
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 5: got it on the board. I think he was some

1143
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: sort of if he was saying it or whatever. But

1144
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: that then came up and wrapped around a leg and

1145
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 5: an arm, so he's actually fighting this thing, and then

1146
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 5: another arm got a hold of one of the controllers,

1147
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 5: smoking the block of the the net, and so he

1148
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 5: almost lost his whole boat because all of a sudden, Yeah,

1149
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 5: he's pulling he's pulling hydraug arms that aren't supposed to be,

1150
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 5: you know, in gear. And luckily he had access to

1151
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 5: a knife where he got it off his belt and yeah,

1152
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 5: started hacking at this thing or else he could have

1153
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 5: could have been about all eight arms going at one time,

1154
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 5: and they're strong.

1155
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: They're powerful.

1156
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you could get a little overpowered and in

1157
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: a situation. But yeah, I guess the knife would would

1158
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: handle that.

1159
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: Also, Like let's say that it had gotten up in

1160
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: the boat and it wrapped itself around you and it

1161
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: pulled you down into the Yeah, we don't know, Katie

1162
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 3: and I don't know how to drive a boat like.

1163
01:04:46,680 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 9: Everyone the rock she told me she did.

1164
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: So maybe we would have made helme, but then we

1165
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 3: would have lost dad.

1166
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be the first year.

1167
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: Off had we were drifting out there for an hour.

1168
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: No, I mean everything about it. I still I don't know, man,

1169
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 3: it was.

1170
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 7: Where's a lot of what if you know?

1171
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if it were to pulled down the water,

1172
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: I don't think it would take the time to wrap

1173
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: dead up in its arm and drag him all the

1174
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: way down.

1175
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 3: I think you had your leg over the edge. No

1176
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 3: part of you was worried about it wrapping itself around

1177
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 3: your leg because it you wouldn't have been able to

1178
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: let go, and it was strong enough to go down

1179
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 3: like it could have pulled you down.

1180
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: Man, if that had happened and you like down the road,

1181
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, after a respectable period of time remarried. I

1182
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: don't mind you to go to bed every night thinking

1183
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: about me just vanishing through the depths. Might just smiled

1184
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: with my knife, with my gas fighting that oct Man,

1185
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: I'd be worth it just to have that haunt.

1186
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 6: Well, just waiting for you to pop up like a

1187
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: rock fishing and splatter out.

1188
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm mainly worried about now is now

1189
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: there's octopus with a gas. We were joking about siving

1190
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: around down there. I'm gonna be out there and all

1191
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden that gas spikes will come up to

1192
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: the botto of the boat.

1193
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 2: Middle.

1194
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 7: You know he still has the gap.

1195
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it't They won't stay in him because it's like angle,

1196
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: there's no bar. But he's gonna have it with him now.

1197
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 1: Whatever he's doing, he's gonna bring that gaff with him.

1198
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: Me and my dad were joking about this morning. That

1199
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: thing's gonna gonna be pulled upon. It's gonna ride the

1200
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: pot up, get jumping swinging club my dad in the head,

1201
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: grab and jump overboard and.

1202
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 4: Sink that gaff.

1203
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: And in hindsight, I wish we would have not have

1204
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: tried to tangle with him, knowing that he got away.

1205
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, but if.

1206
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: You if you pull them up again, would you find

1207
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: them again?

1208
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah?

1209
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: Would you try to get your gap back?

1210
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: Is that gonna make you feel? Are you gonna have

1211
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 3: different things in the boat like you didn't have? You

1212
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: had a pocket knife yesterday.

1213
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gonna have a I'm gonna get a shoulder

1214
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: holster shot.

1215
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 4: I like the ide octopus spray.

1216
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: We get some kind of concoction like bear spray, but

1217
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: octopuses start putting pots out. Man. Now, two quick things.

1218
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: This year you were here for this. I found a

1219
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: dead octopus this spring. The commercial shrimpers were working our

1220
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: area and I found a dead octopus with a cut

1221
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: open mantle. And they just catch them and kill them.

1222
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: Why do they do that because they cause they get

1223
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: in there and steal all your shrimp competition. So it's

1224
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: common to kill them and not harvest them. And here's

1225
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: the funny story. I was gonna tell you that not funny,

1226
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: but this is a little thing about human nature. Uh.

1227
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: There's an essay about this. It was called like a

1228
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: Tale of Two Octopuses. And I can't remember where they appeared.

1229
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe the New York Times and

1230
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: the New Yorker. Either way, this is in Puget Sound. One.

1231
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: There was a kid who took ah. There was a

1232
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: kid in high school and he was a diver, and

1233
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: he was in some food class, and so for his

1234
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: senior project or something, he was gonna be that he's

1235
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna catch an octopus and cook it for his senior project.

1236
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: And they sign off on this, and he goes down

1237
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: to a beach and goes out with his dive gear

1238
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: and hauls up an octopus. And people in that community

1239
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: have a fit where he hauled the octopus up on

1240
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: the beach, to the point where they're trying to get

1241
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: the state Fish and Game Agency to ban the harvest

1242
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: of octopus at that location. They were so traumatized. And

1243
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: this is being covered in the Seattle newspaper, and the

1244
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: Seattle Times is being covered with a sympathetic ear to

1245
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: the community. At the same time, a new seafood restaurant

1246
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: opens up in Seattle and their specialty dish is octopus,

1247
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: which gets a rave review in the same newspaper. It's like,

1248
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: especially try the octopus. Yeah, in the newspaper at the

1249
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: same time that they're condemning the high school kid forgetting

1250
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: the octopus. It just shows like a little bit of

1251
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: the out of sight, out of mind, yeah, and that dish.

1252
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: And they confirmed that dish is specific octopus.

1253
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 7: So was there any exposure of the hypocrisy there?

1254
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: The article The Tale of Two Octopuses was an exposure

1255
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: of the hypocrisy. It was very similar to a thing

1256
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: that we covered we touched on Brooklyn earlier. The writer,

1257
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: the Southern writer Ericard Builder wrote in The New Yorker

1258
01:09:53,920 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: he was profiling young youth youth in Nevada training to

1259
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: be professional bull riders. Okay, so he's hanging out with

1260
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: ranch and rodeo families and these little kids who are

1261
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: being groomed to become bull riders and so half but

1262
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: he lives in Brooklyn. He lives near Prospect Park in Brooklyn.

1263
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: So in his article he's juxtaposing these communities where in

1264
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: this community in Nevada, they're training their children to be

1265
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: bull riders. And in his community where he lives, they

1266
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: have installed real rocks in the park, and the people

1267
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: in the community trying to get the rocks removed because

1268
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: someone could get hurt. And this person's like, I assumed

1269
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: they were fake rocks, And when I went up and

1270
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: saw they were real rocks, I was appalled. Do you

1271
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: realize how bad someone could get hurt on these rocks?

1272
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 3: Do you remember when we used to when we lived

1273
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, we went to that park all the time.

1274
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: It was like a community movement to get the rocks

1275
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: out of that park where someone banged their head on

1276
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: the Meanwhile he's like hanging out with like youth bull riders.

1277
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: So just funny. Yeah, our tendencies, Andy Yep lay out

1278
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: your meals from the cove.

1279
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: Well over the last fifteen years. See how this is

1280
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 5: a very remote facility. You kind of have to get

1281
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 5: creative as far as what you're bringing in and make

1282
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 5: sure that you have all your ingredients lined up before

1283
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 5: you get here if you actually want to do conpost meals.

1284
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 4: So I've kind of laid out.

1285
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 5: Some blueprints over the years of how things work up here.

1286
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 5: So I do a lot of repeats just to make

1287
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: my life easier as far as shopping lists go, and.

1288
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Just ease of the dish.

1289
01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 5: You know, we have a fairly decent setup here, but

1290
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 5: you know, pot space and and you know, burner space

1291
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 5: and and oven space is kind of a at a

1292
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 5: limited capacity.

1293
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 4: So if you get kind of.

1294
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 5: Creative, but obviously I've got the cream of the crop

1295
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 5: when it comes to seafood access. I kind of joke

1296
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 5: sometimes about at any given night, there could be two

1297
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 5: thousand dollars worth a fresh seafood on the table that's

1298
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: never even hit the fridge, you know, straight from the

1299
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 5: flay table, crab and shrimp and halve it and salmon,

1300
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 5: and if you put that to a market octopus, if

1301
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 5: you put that to a market value, sometimes it's a

1302
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 5: little overwhelming to think that we're really living in the

1303
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 5: spoils here, But yeah, I try to do the crowd pleasers.

1304
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 5: Fish tacos are always a hit, and that's usually a

1305
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 5: repeat from year to year because everybody kind of knows that.

1306
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 5: And as the years have gone on, the fine teal

1307
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 5: has kind of changed up here. You know, We've gone

1308
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 5: from all kind of thirty something adults to heavy, heavy

1309
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 5: booze and heavy hitting uh, hard charging folks to everybody's

1310
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 5: bringing kids up here nowadays. So it has been an

1311
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 5: interesting transformation of you know, make sure that everybody enjoys

1312
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 5: the food. But that's kind of what I do, is

1313
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 5: make sure that kids are happy when they're eating.

1314
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: So uh some of the ore day asked because we

1315
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: brought some fish to the neighbors and they said, how

1316
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: does he fry his fish?

1317
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1318
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that one I kind of joked as start

1319
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 5: by calling catching really small halibut.

1320
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1321
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were so tender. We wed got into a

1322
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 5: pile of fairly small helbot. And I really think that

1323
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 5: those filets, I mean, they were just so delicate coming

1324
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 5: off the off the fish and you can.

1325
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: See through them almost they're so small, but the flesh

1326
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: is clear.

1327
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and they're actually the right uh thickness. That's

1328
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 5: a big key to frying fish is having the right

1329
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 5: cut of fish as far as how thick you cut.

1330
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 4: It, Because too thick, you're.

1331
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 5: Your outer crust is gonna burn a bit before that

1332
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 5: fish is fully cooked. And if you're cutting just if

1333
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 5: you're just like using little tail pieces, you don't have

1334
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 5: a dried up piece of fish before you even get

1335
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 5: get to where you're going, you know. So those were

1336
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 5: actually the perfect perfect thickness as far as frying goes.

1337
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 5: My little trick is about two hours before I'm about

1338
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 5: to fry them, I actually season them, and I actually

1339
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 5: throw just a spoonful of mao in with them and

1340
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 5: just a little bit just a kind of barely coat them.

1341
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 3: It is.

1342
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 5: I usually like zest a little lemon zest and season

1343
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 5: them pretty good right right in with the raw fish

1344
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 5: and let those sit for about two hours. But then

1345
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 5: I don't I really do the batter. If I'm doing

1346
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 5: kind of a Baha Baja style taco, I'll do a

1347
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 5: real thin batter with them. But this I do actually

1348
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 5: the flour egg wash, and I make a crumb mixture

1349
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 5: panco flour. I throw a little corn starts in there

1350
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 5: to kind of give it that little crispiness. And then

1351
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:19,919
Speaker 5: it's all about seasoning.

1352
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: All cooking.

1353
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 5: It comes down to being able to season stuff properly.

1354
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 5: That's why that kind of had that nice But I'm

1355
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 5: telling you that that was some of the most tender

1356
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: hell but I've ever cooked.

1357
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 7: It knocked our socks off over there.

1358
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the.

1359
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 4: Place was top Yeah, I was, I was.

1360
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 5: I was secretly giving myself a little laugh about this

1361
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: one like that.

1362
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: Another favorite of mine that you do and you might

1363
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: be the only one that doesn't, is a green seafood enchilada.

1364
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that one just kind of came out of

1365
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 5: came out of a lot of leftovers. You know, I

1366
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 5: tend to cook a little too much from night to night,

1367
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 5: so there's always a little bit of leftover cooked fish

1368
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 5: hanging out, and you got to kind of get creative

1369
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 5: with how to use cooked fish and shellfish without overdoing it.

1370
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 5: And that's kind of the perfect application for that. So

1371
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 5: I just kind of mixed lunch cooked al butt, salmon, crab, shrimp,

1372
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 5: mix that all together with you know, sauteed onions and

1373
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 5: green chili's a slancho and lime and make a little

1374
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 5: green enchilada sauce and whipped it all together. Traditionally, seafood

1375
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 5: and cheese aren't kind of paired normally, but it works

1376
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 5: out pretty good. It's a very rich, rich disc dish

1377
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 5: because it's got you know, it's got the heavy, heavy

1378
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 5: base to it, and it's got cheese in it, a

1379
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: little bit of sour cream, but good. Yeah, we might

1380
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 5: revisit that one tonight. Made a little too much.

1381
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: Assemble it and form it up.

1382
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 5: Well, I make the mixture and then roll roll them

1383
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 5: into as you would at any angela. I roll them

1384
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 5: into tortillas and then kind of saw some cheese and

1385
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 5: pop in the oven.

1386
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: Just let them get nice and brown.

1387
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: They're good, man.

1388
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say. Brodie's son Conley has been

1389
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 3: talking about those for a year.

1390
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 4: Since last year.

1391
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the day we got here, he's like,

1392
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: what are you going to make?

1393
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 4: And I think I think they're even better after the fact.

1394
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, we've got a couple of pans left over,

1395
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 5: and actually just carve out those little squares and then

1396
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 5: pop them back in the oven real hot, and they

1397
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 5: just get like nice crispy edges on it because they're

1398
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 5: set now, you know, like that filling has cooled down

1399
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 5: and kind of solidified and all yelled together. Cut little

1400
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 5: squares and christen back up. I think they're better on

1401
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 5: the second day then.

1402
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: Ever year you do a seafood chowder's way right Wait, yeah,

1403
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: the chowder and the curry. I interpted, you haven't hit

1404
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: curry yet?

1405
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 6: NOPEA yeah, we we had your hurry last year.

1406
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was Yeah, amazing that we're still talking about that.

1407
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, this year, well, you guys might get lucky, and

1408
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 5: it's coming around week two. Oh, we did a chowder

1409
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 5: a couple of nights ago, and that's just kind of

1410
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 5: a classic chowder. But yeah, when you're working with all

1411
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 5: the all the goods around here, put crab and shrimp

1412
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 5: and I think I had salmon and cod and halbit

1413
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 5: all mixed in there.

1414
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: What did you put on those scallops last night.

1415
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: That we want to get the scalp I want to

1416
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: talk about. I want to talk about the cut, but

1417
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: you can talk about the sauce now, I'll talk about

1418
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: the cut.

1419
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one, I man, I just whipped up kind

1420
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 5: of looked around what we had on hand, and there

1421
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 5: was some oranges for the kids, some of those little

1422
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 5: cuties or the the small little oranges, and I used

1423
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 5: some of that juice with a little some lime juice,

1424
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 5: a little bit of soy sauce, a little bit of

1425
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 5: sesame oil, some really fine mince, ginger and garlic in there.

1426
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: We're all getting scalps. He started grilling the kids about

1427
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: how many oranges they'd eaten.

1428
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, Mine mind was turning because you

1429
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 5: need some sort of cidic. So basically, yes, Steve was

1430
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 5: out and and Jim, we're out harvesting. Oh and Kelsey,

1431
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 5: all three of you guys were out harvesting. Uh, some

1432
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 5: beautiful rock scalps. And yeah, what are their silver dollar size?

1433
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 5: I mean they're about some of them. All the actual

1434
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 5: the actual meat.

1435
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, like a really skimpy sausage patty, a

1436
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: really skimpy breakfast sausage patty, a chicken nugget, A big

1437
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 1: one is about the size of a chicken nugget.

1438
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good, good size, it's about right round. But

1439
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 5: cutting them, you know, super sharp knife. I went out

1440
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 5: actually the flight table, and I surveyed every knife in

1441
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 5: the house and found the sharpest one out there. And

1442
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,440
Speaker 5: you go against the grain like you'd be cutting.

1443
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: Just coins off the top.

1444
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 5: Like so you can just picture putting that thing on

1445
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 5: a slice and just cutting paper thin shaves from the

1446
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 5: top to the bottom and being that thin and using

1447
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 5: the sauce that I did, and that has just that

1448
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 5: slight acidity to it with the with the juice of.

1449
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 11: The lime and the or the lime and the orange

1450
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 11: just gives it enough to to start to give a

1451
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 11: little cook or a little marinade to where it's kind

1452
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 11: of takes the edge off of that rawness.

1453
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 7: And so you're making like a.

1454
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: C type barely.

1455
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like where you'd go heavy lime juice,

1456
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 5: where you're actually cooking that fish and limes just enough

1457
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 5: to kind of and man, they pick up flavor really

1458
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 5: quick because I literally cut them, put them on that

1459
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 5: plate with it with the sauce, and instantly they picked

1460
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 5: up that flavor. I mean, the soy sauce and sesame

1461
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 5: oil is very strong, so it picks that up pretty quick,

1462
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 5: but just paper thin, and man, they're good.

1463
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: They're just We had a friend not We had a

1464
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: friend up here who was not aware of when you

1465
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: see a scallop what you're seeing.

1466
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 7: I was surprised.

1467
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: She had been always seen scallops and restaurants or whatever,

1468
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: but never realized what it was that you're looking at.

1469
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: We don't eat muscles and clams because of paralytic shellfish poisoning.

1470
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 1: There's no testing on our beaches for paralytic shellfish poisoning,

1471
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit of a gamble. But I'm

1472
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: not making advice to listeners, but I'm just saying how

1473
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: we've come to a decision that we have is that

1474
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: an acquaintance of mine who's a doctor, he's done a

1475
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of research on this, and just no case or

1476
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: the adductor muscle, which is all I'm gonna get to.

1477
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: What you're eating on a scallop when you get scallops

1478
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: is the adductor muscle. Everything in the scallop is edible,

1479
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: but we eat the adductor muscle because there's no known

1480
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: cases where add doctor muscles from scallops have ever transmitted

1481
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: ps and people know the term bivalve. It's like it's

1482
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: got two shells like a clam Like a clamshell, it's

1483
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: the muscle is just attached to each shell. It's just

1484
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 1: what holds the shells together. It's got a hinge apparatus,

1485
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: this weird, crazy purple thing that functions as a hinge,

1486
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: and then that muscle is stuck to the center of

1487
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: each shell. So when you clean it, you're just getting

1488
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 1: in there and scraping the muscle free from each side.

1489
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: And it's just that little deal. And you're talking about

1490
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: laying that little muscle down like how it would be

1491
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: it feels in its shell, you're laying it down and

1492
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: just cutting, like, like I said, cutting coins from top

1493
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: to bottom. And that made a big difference because the

1494
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: thing that used to before you started getting into that,

1495
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: it's just meaier than a bay scallop.

1496
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's grainier.

1497
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: And then I would cut them the other way, so

1498
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: I'd lay it down and cut slices off it with

1499
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: the grain, and that was good, but not nearly as

1500
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: good as that cross grain.

1501
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'd be like cutting a piece of meat kind

1502
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 5: of the wrong way with the grain and you get

1503
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 5: that long chew to it.

1504
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 4: Kind of the same same concept.

1505
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh, they're good.

1506
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1507
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 3: Jimmy, what's your favorite thing that you've eaten this week

1508
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: so far?

1509
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.

1510
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 7: Yeah that What was that sauce that you made with that?

1511
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,480
Speaker 7: That white sauce.

1512
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 5: For the Oh, it's just kind of a tartar check

1513
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 5: charter sauce.

1514
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: Whatever people were talking about it went missing, It went

1515
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: over to the neighbors. Oh, because I heard people talking

1516
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: about what happened to it.

1517
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, we ate it on everything.

1518
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, that was just a it's just a kind

1519
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 6: of run sud on breakfast Britos we're.

1520
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Putting on.

1521
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 7: You know, we're not shack we'll take whatever we can get.

1522
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: So James, to close things out, what is your favorite

1523
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 1: actvity that that that you engage in in these parts?

1524
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 1: What do you like the most? I have two main

1525
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:16,440
Speaker 1: Like I said, nope, two fingers.

1526
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 3: What do you feel like doing to dad right now? One?

1527
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Okay, go on, see how much better you sound now.

1528
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 2: Two things. I can't really decide between either diving for

1529
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: scallops and just looking at a little shrimp and rock crabs,

1530
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 2: and how everything kind of lives underwater where you when

1531
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: you're fishing out here, you really don't know what's beneath you,

1532
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: r what's happening. That's kind of the mystery of and

1533
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: that's what makes it fun that diving here in Alaska.

1534
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1535
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't speak, so that's one of the things.

1536
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 2: And then fishing link cod.

1537
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Fishing, Yeah, and pull them up gigantic calib it.

1538
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, jim caught a real nice Yeah, got a big one.

1539
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy got a giant.

1540
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 7: It was.

1541
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 3: It was cute the other night when it was the

1542
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 3: first or second night we were here, and Matt whispered

1543
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: to me, He's like, I want to go around the

1544
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: table and everyone has to say what they like the

1545
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: most about Alaska and what it wasn't fishing specific or

1546
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: activity specific. But you had a really nice answer, Jimmy,

1547
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: do you remember what you said?

1548
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: Like the family that you build up here is kind

1549
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 2: of like there's like you get to know everybody so

1550
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: much better and get to like be close to people

1551
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: and kind of get to like share an experience you

1552
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: don't really get to share with people like more up here,

1553
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 2: and you get to like really learn about everybody. I

1554
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: just think it's cool that you get to spend that

1555
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 2: time with people and not have to worry about anything.

1556
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: Definitely, what I shared around the table is that in

1557
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 1: John mcfee's listen hear me out. In John mcfee's Pulitzer

1558
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: Prize winning Annals of the Former World, his Pulit Surprize

1559
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: winning work on American geology, there's a couple of nuggets

1560
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: in there. I'm gonna get to the main nugget, but

1561
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: I want to share a couple nuggets in there. At

1562
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: one point in that book, he says, if I was

1563
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: going to sum this book up in one sentence, it

1564
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: would be that the top of Mount Everest is marine limestone.

1565
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: He also points out that if you imagine the world's

1566
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: history as being a timeline stretching from the tip of

1567
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: your finger to the other tip of your finger. With

1568
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: your arms spread out, you would remove human history with

1569
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: one stroke of a nail fire. And he also says

1570
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 1: that he explains how in eighty million years, Japan will

1571
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: have accreted all of the Aleutian Islands into one big

1572
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: land mass, and that land mass will dock up against Alaska.

1573
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: And what's cool about that is it Alaska formed the

1574
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: same way it was accreated archipelagos that formed in a

1575
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: big glob of like just islands accumulating together, and it

1576
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 1: docked up against California, and that's what caused the gold

1577
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: that became the California gold rush in the Sierra because

1578
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 1: that stuff, like all that stuff that went under the plate,

1579
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, bubbled up like that out there. But then

1580
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: this big blobbed it's Alaska, shot up against the California

1581
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: and then road and is riding a transform fault and

1582
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: so far it's ridden north to where it is now.

1583
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I think about that. It's pretty wild.

1584
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 4: That's what you're most thankful about. The cabinet.

1585
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 1: That was, that was that was before that octopus. Now

1586
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: the thing I'm most thankful of is that I might

1587
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: catch him to night round two. Yeah, alright, guys, we're

1588
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up. Yeah, high tide right now.

1589
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 8: Actually I think it's on the fall.

1590
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining, Jimmy. Yep, you got in a lot

1591
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: of trouble this week, but you did a great job.

1592
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: What I controle for you know, losing flyers, Jimmy, here's

1593
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:52,919
Speaker 2: a lot of spinners.

1594
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 3: He's in a weird he's in a weird stage between

1595
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: being a kid and being an adult. He's thirteen, and

1596
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 3: you're expected to now go. You know, your little brother

1597
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 3: and sister get to run around and just be little

1598
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 3: maniacs all day, and you're expected to help in a

1599
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: different way. And I'm sure that's a hard transition, but

1600
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: a necessary one.

1601
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: And if your little brother lost my spinner, I wouldn't

1602
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 1: even have a question for him.

1603
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know a lot of becoming a man of

1604
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 7: the sea.

1605
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

1606
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 4: But you're learning.

1607
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: You learn a lot of stuff.

1608
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 6: Though pred you'll be taking the skiff out by yourself

1609
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 6: or with buddies, and.

1610
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 3: That is so scary but killed me and everyone on

1611
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 3: the boat.

1612
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: No, you did.

1613
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 3: You did a good job. Yesterday when Dad jumped over

1614
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 3: to Brody's boat. Oh that was you talk about that.

1615
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: But that's too embarrassing, he thought.

1616
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 3: For Brody, you also were like, it's a fish, it's

1617
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 3: a fish.

1618
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 7: It was.

1619
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I heard and was telling us about that. You

1620
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: have to bring this up. It takes so long to

1621
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: explain what happened. Okay, we had two skiffs monkey together.

1622
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 1: I very strong current, so strong that the buoy is

1623
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: like throwing ripples, like a rock in the middle of

1624
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: a river. Right, a big incoming tide. Anchored a boat

1625
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: monkey to another boat off that by tying it off

1626
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: behind that. Okay, then on the same ridge line anchored

1627
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: another boat, three boats, two anchors. Brody's fishing out of

1628
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 1: the boat that's tied off on my boat, which is

1629
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: anchored in place. He's jigging, and your jig is way

1630
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: out yonder because it's two hundred and eighty feet of water,

1631
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: So by the time you know you're jigging at an angle,

1632
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: he feels as though he snagged something. But here's the deal.

1633
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Andy's boat in the current is putting so much pressure

1634
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: on his anchor that when Brody's lifting up with his rod,

1635
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: and it's like eighty pound braid. He's lifting up with

1636
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: his rod and it's lifting the anchor out of its bed.

1637
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: He's anchored on my anchor, so he's not moving. But

1638
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: when he lifts up because he's taking he's hooked an

1639
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: admiralty anchor and is pulling it out the other direction,

1640
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: which is causing that skiff to just a little bit

1641
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 1: move down. And when it's going, and I'm like, you've

1642
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 1: got to be snagged on something. And I eventually climbed

1643
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: into his boat and grab that rod and I'm like,

1644
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what's down there, but it's alive because

1645
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: you be home dead still like you're not moving, that

1646
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:42,800
Speaker 1: thing's going and with the same like a shake, then

1647
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta be on a fish. It's under

1648
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 1: something like he wrapped on something like he's wrapped on

1649
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: a rock. I don't know what, and that's what it

1650
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: feels like. But eventually it's like not his way off

1651
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: in some other direction, and I said, let's pull that

1652
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: anchor and find out what's going on. It was on

1653
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: the anchor.

1654
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you're in charge of it, and Jimmy was doing

1655
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 3: an excellent job driving the boat.

1656
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: You wanted to get into the mix.

1657
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 3: Well you didn't. You the boats were getting too close

1658
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 3: and you reversed it and you did a good job.

1659
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 3: You did a great job.

1660
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah you wanted to get in on the fight.

1661
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's good.

1662
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: You can't watch that kind of stuff go down way

1663
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: over far away. Well I said, I said, what I said?

1664
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: What he did?

1665
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 3: He had a sting ray theory.

1666
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: I had a sting ray theory. Well, now and then

1667
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: we'll hook something and you can't get it up, and

1668
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: eventually get it up and it sees huge rays. I've

1669
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: seen that right here on this chart.

1670
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 7: I saw that one.

1671
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 1: Number.

1672
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at that hook next to your face.

1673
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 3: That doesn't feel like that's circle hook.

1674
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: That can't get you all rightybody, thanks for joining, See

1675
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 1: you next time later.

1676
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 6: Oh, ride a.

1677
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 2: Ride on on the seal gray, shine like silver in

1678
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 2: the sun.

1679
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 10: Ride, ride de on along, sweetheart. Were done beat this

1680
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 10: damp horse to death, taking a new one. Ride. We're

1681
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 10: done beat this damn horse today, So take your new

1682
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,600
Speaker 10: one and ride on.