1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: For me personally, it was because I didn't have a choice. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: There was no other option that was taken away from 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: me with the passing of my son's father that I 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: was forced into. I am alone. Now. Who do you 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: trust when you don't have anything else to lean on 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: and stand on? All you have is what you came 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: here with. It's you in the divine. Hey everyone, welcome 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: the world. 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I love these episodes when 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: I get to sit down with dear friends, people that 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I have spent deep, quality, heartfelt time with, and I 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to share them with you because they 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: have such a wealth of insights, such a wealth of wisdom, 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: such a wealth of life experience. But I have to 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: move into my interviewer mode and make sure that you 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: know about how epic they are as well behind the scenes. 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they are doing a lot more than being 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: my friend. So today's guest is none other than Lauren 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: London and la native career skyrocketed after starring in the 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: film ATL and Miss London's career in the year since 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: ATL includes a number of feature films and television series, 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: including This Christmas, Next Day Air, Tyler Perry's Medea, Big 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Habby Family, I Love You, Beth Cooper Baggage claimed The 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Perfect Match, as well as television series HBO's Entourage, nine 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: two one zero, Single Ladies, and The Game. In twenty nineteen, 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: she appeared in the BT series Games People play, which 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: is currently in production on season two. Season one centered 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: around London's character Vanessa King. And then this was a 45 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: movie that I just saw recently. In the spring of 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, Tom Clancy's Without Remorse, starring Michael B. 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Jordan was released with Laurence starring as Pam Kelly. There 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: are so many more amazing things that Lauren's working on 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, so many other incredible things that in 50 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: production and Netflix mini series True Story alongside Kevin Hart 51 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: and Wesley Snipes, and she's producing much more further projects 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: as well. Beyond all of this amazingness on screen, what 53 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: I can truly say is that having spent pretty much 54 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: like four hours a week with this incredible woman for 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the past twelve months, maybe more, is that there are 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: very few people who carry the energy she carries. And 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: in any room Lauren walks into, she lights it up 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: with love, with grace, with this beautiful presence. And my 59 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: wife and I are not only huge fans of her 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: work on screen, we believe she's one of the most 61 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: hilarious people offscreen. We love you, Lauren. Thank you so 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: much for doing the On Purpose podcast, and it is 63 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: so great to have you on the show. Thanks for 64 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: being here, Lauren. Oh, thank you jay Man. The introduction 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: was like a plus plus. You make me excited about myself. 66 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess I've been working for why you've 67 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, you've done so much in your career, and 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: I always feel blessed when I get to see people 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: on screen and offscreen, because I think we're all humans 70 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: that have real lives and real experiences. But I mean, 71 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: everything in that intro was true, So congratulations to you. 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's it's all your hard work 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: and all your achievements. I hope we get a special 74 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: appearance from crossoad Cam today in the shot. You know, 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: one can only hope. I don't want to snack very soon. 76 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: But Lauren, I want to start with just diving straight in. 77 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, you have experienced so much in your career, 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: so many amazing life changing moments, but at the same time, 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: in your personal life, you've been given so many surprises 80 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and pivots and changes and challenges. And I want to 81 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: hear about your journey as to how you've found grace, 82 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: spiritual connection and how have you been guided by that 83 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: through some of the most difficult things that anyone in 84 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: the world would ever have to experience, you know, my 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: spiritual journey. It had so many transformations. So I had 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: a very traumatic childhood, you could say, with just a 87 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of abuse and you know, neglect, and not at 88 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: the hands of my mother though, let me clear that up. 89 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: And so I was very very connected to God at 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: a really early age. I just remember hearing God very 91 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: very very clear. And then you know, as I grew up, 92 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: I lost a bit of my connection to God and 93 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: then got reintroduced to God in another way in my 94 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: early adulthood. And then really when Nit passed, I felt 95 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: like that was when I had to really really get 96 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: to know God personally, not in theory, not an idea, 97 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: not you know, only when things are good to pray 98 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: and devote. It made me feel like I wanted to 99 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: really understand our purpose here on earth, why we were here, 100 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: what are we to do here? I didn't want to 101 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: live a life in vain. I wanted to be on purpose, 102 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: and so it just it was this like this thirst 103 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: for the truth. I think when tragedy happens, you you 104 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: can either just survive or survive and thrive. And I 105 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: really made the choice to survive and thrive, and I 106 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: feel like I can only do that through the grace 107 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: of God and just being a servant of God. That's 108 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: beautiful learning. Thank you for sharing that. Let's let's go 109 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: back to that early childhood that you were mentioning. What 110 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: was like a pivotal moment in your childhood that you 111 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: believe is defined who you are and how you show up. 112 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: What was a moment that happened in those early years 113 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: you think taught you something so powerful that shaped who 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: you are today. Well, you know, I think when you 115 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, my parents were really young, and they really 116 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: tried the best, you know, with what they had and 117 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: just the tools they had in their toolbox. And so 118 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I learned very early about betrayal and how being alone 119 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: because I was the only child and there was a 120 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: lot of violence around me and towards me, how I 121 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: could only depend on God. And I learned that very 122 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: early on that the humans and the adults in my 123 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: life might not have been the best protectors, but that 124 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I was okay because I had faith in God, and 125 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: that depending on God and leaning on God and trusting 126 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: that I would be okay really carried me through my 127 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: young childhood and my adulthood and just you know, clearly 128 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: no one's perfect, and our parents are humans. I think 129 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: that was a really hard lesson for me to learner 130 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that my parents were just humans. I think you've raised 131 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: such an interesting point there, because when I think about 132 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: what you're saying, I think it's so natural as a 133 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: young person to look for role models, to look for protectors, 134 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: to look for shelter, to look for another human to 135 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: be under their wing. And when you're young and that breaks, 136 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: you kind of keep looking sometimes in the wrong places too. 137 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: And I know I did that in my own life, 138 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: where when I couldn't find it from what seemed like 139 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: the natural, traditional places of shelter, I started to find 140 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: it in the wrong areas. Did you ever feel that 141 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: you went down that path when you were younger, where 142 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: you were taking shelter of things that now you wouldn't 143 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: want your kids to do, but you kind of had 144 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: no choice before you got to that God place. It's 145 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: almost like before that tell us a bit about that 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: journey of like looking for shelter in humans, looked at 147 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: everything decided there was also a moment where I just 148 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, my faith dwindled because life happened and I 149 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: was like, well, why would this happen? Clearly there's no 150 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: power to be life is just crumbling around me. I 151 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: was just looking outside of myself for validation. I didn't 152 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: have a really good, strong sense of self worth. And 153 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: so you know kids, I think children internalize everything when 154 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: they're really young, and then around adolescent people always think 155 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: adolescents are so troubled, and but that's when you start 156 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: to express everything you even internalize that age. And so 157 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: around like fourteen fifteen, I start to express everything I 158 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: had internalized, and you know, I started to drink and 159 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: smoke and skip school or not go to school, you know, 160 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: completely not go to school at all. And I got 161 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: kicked out of high school. And I went from like 162 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: an honors student, which is like you know, very magnet 163 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: and all all these ap classes, to never going back 164 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: to school because I was so my anger was starting 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: to come out from everything I had went through. And yeah, 166 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: that and then I had a dream around like nineteen 167 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: of just years of acting out, that I died. And 168 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: I was like, how this is so crazy, How like, no, 169 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sick, no one knows. I'm like walking out 170 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: of my mom's house. And this figure was there and 171 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: the figure was like, you know, I kind of explained 172 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: to me that I was leaving Earth. It was such 173 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: an eerie dream and I was like, where's Jesus And 174 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the figure was like, He's not here for you. And 175 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: I woke up immediately. It was Sunday morning and I 176 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: literally drove myself to church and my life changed after that. Wow, 177 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean that those kind of dreams. Do you have 178 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: dreams like that often? Or was that like a one off? 179 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: And was that like at that time? Had you had 180 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: other dreams around that time that were different to that. No. 181 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: I used to have like very dreams that were kind 182 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: of like premonitions when I was younger. I you know, 183 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: of like areas and places that I would eventually see 184 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: when I was older. So but nothing like that that 185 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: was very specific, I think to my need of transformation. 186 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: I really like the theme, Lauren, that you've kind of 187 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: touched on in your own life and in your past, 188 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: because I think you're spot on that when we're young 189 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: and even when we get older, we're constantly looking for 190 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: a protector and shelter, and we almost go from like 191 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: will you be my protector? And then that person lets 192 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: us down and then we go to this person and say, well, no, 193 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: you be my protector, and then they let us down 194 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: and we keep doing that. The fact that you've raised 195 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: that is really powerful because I think sometimes we don't 196 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: even know we're doing that because you're not saying it 197 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: in those words. You're not saying be my protector, but 198 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: inside in your heart, that's kind of what you're looking for. 199 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: Tell us about those lessons you learned when you went 200 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: down the wrong paths and chose some of the wrong 201 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: I think what I really what I've learned from being 202 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,119 Speaker 1: younger and looking outside of myself for protection and safety 203 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: and comfort, was that the ultimate comfort and protection comes 204 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: from a higher power. It came from God for me. 205 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: And I was telling you just being a single mother 206 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: and a single woman now and you know, yes, I 207 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: have family and I have friends that are protectors, but 208 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: ultimately my protection is divine and it comes from God. 209 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: And really trusting that now and I didn't trust it before. 210 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: And I think when you've gone through tragedy or trauma 211 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: in any part of life, it really makes you. You know, 212 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: they don't talk about how it really it challenges your 213 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: relationship with God and it am I really being protected? 214 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Something really horrible has happened, and I really safe. Something 215 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: horrible has happened. And you know, I'm learning that even 216 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: now that I am protected, that it is okay to 217 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: lean into that, to not have to always be around 218 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: people or you know, not always feeling like I'm not 219 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: protected if I'm alone, that I am totally in trust 220 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: with God. That's a lesson I'm still learning today that 221 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to just cultivate even more. Yeah, it's interesting, 222 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: isn't it. How we've created this animosity with being alone. 223 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Like we think of being alone or lonely as such 224 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: a negative thing, and it's almost been ingrained in our 225 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: life since we were younger. It's like, if you were 226 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: the kid at school who didn't have lots of friends, 227 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: you were the loner. And if you got invited to 228 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: a wedding and you didn't have a plus one, it 229 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh, what's wrong with you? And it's like 230 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: we've always been told that you need a better half 231 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: or someone to complete you. Like the language has always 232 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: being being alone is a weakness, and that being alone 233 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: means you've been abandoned. It's almost like we think being 234 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: alone means abandonment, but that's not true. You can be 235 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: happy alone and have great relationships and friends, but no 236 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: way your shelter is. I want to hear about how 237 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: long it takes you and what you have to go 238 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: through to gain that trust that there's something beyond, because 239 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: now when you're looking back, it obviously makes sense, but 240 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: if you if you remember being in that position, the 241 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is trust that there's 242 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: something greater or deeper or more powerful, because you're like, well, 243 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't even have that trust in myself, you know, 244 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: and we keep transferring our trust to humans, and so 245 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: I just want to hear about some of the pain 246 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: that comes with that, or some of the challenges that 247 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: come with that, or some of that journey before you 248 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: were able to be. When I see you now and 249 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I obviously we know each other, and I see you 250 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: be so confident in that space, I kind of want 251 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: to hear where that confidence came from. You know, For me, personally, 252 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: I think it's all it's really based on the individual 253 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: in someone's individual journey. For me personally, it was because 254 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: I didn't have a choice, There was no other option 255 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: that was taken away from me. Where I was in 256 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: a house I wasn't alone. I was in a relationship, 257 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, I was protected and covered and then that 258 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: was tragically taken away with the passing you know of 259 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: my son's father that I was forced into. I am 260 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: alone now? And who do you trust as far as yourself? God? 261 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: What's that relationship like? When you don't have anything else 262 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: to lean on and stand on, all you have is 263 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: what you came here with, and so you and the 264 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: divine And so I was kind of pushed into communication 265 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: with God. I had to start really talking to God really, 266 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: not just reading the books. And um, you know I 267 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: always say, like applying it and reading it or two 268 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: different things. You can read all the books everywhere, you 269 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: can speak recite what you read in the book, but 270 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: once you apply what you read, that's a different ball game. 271 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: And so I had to learn application. Yeah, that's such 272 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: a such a great point from communication and application. I 273 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: think that's that's so powerful. Let's I've loved watching you 274 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: be a mom. I've only ever known you in this 275 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: this phase of your life, like I didn't know. I 276 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: haven't known you before, and you have two incredible sons 277 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: who are just so fun to be with. Calm is 278 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: like the ultimate gentleman, and you know this this very 279 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: like almost regal person. It's just like so well spoken, 280 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: so gentle, so smart and intellectual as well, and then 281 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: you have crossed. It's just like the cutest little being 282 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: in the world and just has so much like spontaneous energy, 283 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: has your humor, you know, that kind of vibe. And 284 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: I see how much they love you and how much 285 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: you love them, and that connection. It's so beautiful. Lauren. 286 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking you this probably for the first time. I've 287 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: never asked you this before because I believe it's not 288 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: an easy question to answer, But how does it feel 289 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: to have a plan for life and have a picture 290 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: of what life looks like and then have that picture 291 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: being torn? Like? What does that actually feel like? Because 292 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I think that's something that we underestimate because not everyone 293 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: goes through that fully, but the extent to which you've 294 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: been through that, we may all get little pieces of that. 295 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: And so I feel your experience can be a real 296 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: blessing for everyone, and I know you can share it 297 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: with that heart. So I'd love to ask you that 298 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: question now. It is the ultimate lesson in control, not 299 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: having control, letting go. It's really when you have this 300 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: plan for your life as you should. We should manifest, 301 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: we should set goals, you should right you have intentions 302 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: and if or when that gets derailed and you have 303 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: plan being now to go off that you didn't plan on. 304 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: It is the ultimate test of surrender, letting it go, 305 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: letting God now move in your life. You know, I 306 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: think for me, it was I had this idea I had, 307 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: we had the kids, we had a family, and the 308 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: head of the household is not here anymore. Does that 309 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: mean I have no purpose here anymore? No, I still 310 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: have a purpose, I still have a mission, and now 311 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I have to tap into myself. You know, I had 312 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: to surrender my idea of what I thought my life 313 00:18:54,280 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: should be and give God and give my children the 314 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: opportunity for a happy life. Give God my life so 315 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: that now my life is what the divine wants for me, 316 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: and so I flow with the river. I'm not holding 317 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: onto the rocks, I'm not grasping onto things that you 318 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: know you have to let go of. It is literally, 319 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: the I'm gonna say again, the ultimate test of surrendering. 320 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: You have to surrender because at the end of the day, 321 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: as much control as we think we have, we do 322 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: not and it's actually very powerful to surrender. We think 323 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: that it's a weakness, but it's so much power in 324 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: letting go and flowing with the river because life is 325 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna do what it's gonna do, and we are all 326 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: gonna get chin checked by life one way or another. 327 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: So I might as well focus on my enlightenment and 328 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: roll with the river and not fight with the rocks. Wow, 329 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, hearing that from you, I hope 330 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: that people are going to replay that themselves again and 331 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: again and again because everything you just said and the 332 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: fact that you're saying it in what you've experienced, that's 333 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: what gives it so much power. Right, these are not 334 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: just words, and these are not just ideas. It's not 335 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: just a concept. It's like you're actually having to apply 336 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: this in your daily life. Tell us about learn What 337 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: is it that we didn't know about Nipsy and you 338 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: and the connection you add? What is it that we 339 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't see that we didn't know that that people may 340 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: not be aware of that you shared, that you learned 341 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: from each other, that you grew from each other. What 342 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: were the things you taught him and he taught you 343 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: that made this so powerful? And you know, made this 344 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: incredible unit that has continued to propel you to greater heights. 345 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: You know. I always say that, like we were very 346 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: avid readers, and so when we moved in together and 347 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: put our books together, you can really see whose books 348 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: were so like, he was very very he was an intellectual, 349 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: and I always say he was like a spiritual intellectual 350 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: and I was a spiritual emotional person. So all my 351 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: books were like on hard and you know, and so 352 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: to me it really represented masculine and feminine energy. I 353 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: think something that people don't know is that we were 354 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: always talking about how we could have a better relationship 355 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: with God individually and our purpose and our missions in life, 356 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: and you know who how we just wanted to be 357 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: on purpose as individuals, and how we just helped each 358 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: other on our own individual missions, and that our relationship 359 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: was actually more spiritual than it was anything, and that 360 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: we bonded on our you know, quest for the truth. 361 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: That's I mean, what I love about hearing that is 362 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: that anyone who is in a relationship right now or 363 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: wants to be in a relationship is listening to us. 364 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: That feels like such a great north star. Like that 365 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: feels like such a beautiful point to connect. And it 366 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: sounds so normal for you because that's what you both were, 367 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: like you just described, but that's not very normal, as 368 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: we both know, Like, that's not what relationships are based on. Like, 369 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: that's not why we come together, it's not what we 370 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: think about. It's not really what we put in the center. 371 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: But that center feels so strong. Sorry, were you about 372 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: to say something, Lauren? Didn't. I didn't want to cut 373 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: you off. We started and we weren't perfect, and we 374 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: definitely had our you know, it was a lot of 375 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: human moments. But I think in relationship it's really important 376 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: in the beginning if you set an attention what is 377 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: what is our union? How is our union going to 378 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: participate with everyone else? How are we going to contribute? 379 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: How does our union contribute to people outside of us? 380 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: Not just us, you know, not between you know, Oh 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: you love me, give me pleasure. It has to be 382 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: deeper than that, or it kind of fades away. So 383 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: I think we're very intentional on like how us together, 384 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: how does that contribute to our community? Yeah, and I 385 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: think that community part is also again such a powerful 386 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: point that it doesn't just stop at your quest for 387 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the truth it's what you both do in service to 388 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: your community, and that's a space that you continue to 389 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: be active in. Both you were both active in, Like 390 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: that's such a big priority for you, and I think 391 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: that that's another great relationship connection that you've spoken about 392 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: there there is like if your relationship is based around 393 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the quest for the truth, not just pleasure, but then 394 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: your relationship is based around community service and giving back, 395 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: these are the things that really bring you close to 396 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: someone that you that you deeply love and you share together. 397 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: You spoke a bit about the masculine and feminine energy there, 398 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: and I loved how you described yourself as the spiritual 399 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: emotional and him as the spiritual intellectual. That's that's a 400 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: really cool way of looking at it. When when you 401 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: tell us a bit about what you've learned about the 402 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: masculine and feminine energy that has helped you that you 403 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: think our listeners may find an introduction if they're not 404 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: as aware of those ideas. What if some of the 405 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: things that you've taken away that you think it really 406 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: helped you, you know, just being aware that we are 407 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: all masculine and feminine energy. You know, you think it's 408 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: just one way or the other, but that we have 409 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: we're all intertwined, and we have that in us. I 410 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: sometimes operate out of my masculine more than my feminine, 411 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, especially just I think I do more than anything, 412 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: and and starting to open myself up to my feminine 413 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: energy more and more, I've learned that. I think that 414 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: was my That's my biggest takeaway really from that is 415 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: that it is all in all of us, it's not 416 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: one of the other, and that it is so okay 417 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: to nurture both sides at the same time, or some 418 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: are one side, you might nurture more than the other, 419 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: and that's okay. I just you know, it's like the 420 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: best of both worlds. Yeah, no, I agree with that. 421 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: And I knowing which one to use when and knowing 422 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: which one to nourishes such an important decision. And whereas 423 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: if you just base it on gender and you say, well, 424 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm only feminine or masculine, whatever it may be, you 425 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: almost miss out on recognizing that there are powers in 426 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: both that are accessible to all of us all the time. 427 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: I know for a fact, I remember meeting someone a 428 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: few years ago, and I don't know if I ever 429 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: told you, this, but I met someone a few years ago, 430 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: and I don't really connect with him that much anymore either, 431 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: But he said to me, he said, he goes, Jay, 432 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: you are you are like completely balanced in your masculine 433 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: and feminine. And I was, like I did when I 434 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: first heard that. It was a while ago. I was, 435 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know whether to take that as a compliment 436 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: or as a disc and so but yeah, yeah, no, 437 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: I learned that afterwards. You know, It's like my masculine 438 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: ego got in the way of like, what are you 439 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: trying to say? And it's creativity and intuition, and as 440 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: spiritual beings, we just you know, yeah, you want to 441 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: be tapped into that intuition and that create I'm glad 442 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: you raised that actually that you know, feminine energy. Often 443 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: we don't understand the depth of it, but creativity, intuition, connection, synergy, 444 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: like all of this comes from that. And so that's 445 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: a really great reminder. I heard you, Lauren in an interview. 446 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned that you almost made a decision to not 447 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: go back to acting anymore, and I wanted to know 448 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: more about that, because obviously you have gone back and 449 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: you have moved forward, but there was a point where 450 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: obviously that that required an act of bravery. Can you 451 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: tell us what was it that was stopping you and 452 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: then what helped you move back in? What was stopping 453 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: me was that, you know, life change, and so my 454 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: perspective on life change, and you know, I my field, 455 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: the audition process and the rejection and the politics of 456 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you know what came with what I do did not 457 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: align with what I was seeking anymore. I didn't want 458 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: to have to politic I didn't want to have to, 459 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, do things. I felt more in alignment with 460 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: my truth and I just wanted to be myself fully. 461 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: If I could participate in a project wholly, I would 462 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: do it. But if I could not, I didn't want 463 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: to be fake and not give of myself in a 464 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: real way. And so I was like, you know, I 465 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: don't really want to run that race anymore. And so 466 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: a project or without Remorse came and I was like, 467 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't want to do this little 468 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: you know what felt like a hamster wheel for me. 469 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: I didn't like the idea of competition and going against 470 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: I didn't like that, and so I was like, I 471 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to do that anymore. And 472 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: so Michael was like look, just read the script. And 473 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: so I read the script, and what drew me to 474 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: was that I could participate authentically, like I can genuinely 475 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: play this role, because I really resonated with the fact 476 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: that she passes and he has all these visions of 477 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: her and that she's still communicating with him, just not 478 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: physically but spiritually. And that's exactly where I, you know, 479 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: where I felt I was at the time, and so 480 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: it was just perfect. It was in alignment with a 481 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: story I wanted to tell. I could really give my 482 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: truth to this and it didn't have that, it didn't 483 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: have a negative energy on it. It felt it felt 484 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: like so and I want to say easy, because it 485 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: wasn't easy, but it felt like it was just pretty 486 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: much in alignment, you know, such a flow and so 487 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: and not that I'm expecting everything to be easy, but 488 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want a certain energy on it, and this 489 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: had a really good energy on it, and I trusted 490 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: it and went back. Yeah, And I really felt that 491 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: when me and Radie watched the movie together that we 492 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: really felt that too, that you know, looking at it 493 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: from that perspective of of knowing you and speaking to 494 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: you about it, and then watching the movie and just 495 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: being like wow, like you know, how how must have 496 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: that been for Loren to play that role. But but 497 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: then to hear you say what you're saying to me now, 498 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm just like wow, like that that's therapeutic, it's healing, 499 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: it's it's powerful because you're you're transferring that pain into purpose, right, 500 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: You're like bringing it through and you're letting it flow. 501 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: And that that's so powerful that you're able to transform 502 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: your pain in this way, and that feels like a 503 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: massively worthy reason to go back to anything and how 504 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: you're selecting it. And I love what you said there. 505 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, I just I like pointing out 506 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: things that sometimes we miss. You said, I'm not expecting 507 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: it to be easy, but I want it to be 508 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: an alignment. And I think that is such a powerful 509 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: lesson for all of us that if we're looking for ease, 510 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: chances are we don't want to do anything because nothing's easy. 511 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's like that alignment. And you've devoted 512 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: time in helping other people who've lost their loved ones 513 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: through gun violence. Can you walk us through how this 514 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: has been helping you in your healing journey and why 515 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: it's important for people to help even when we feel 516 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: like we've lost because I think what often happen is 517 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: when we feel like we've gone through something, we most 518 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: often don't feel like we're in a position to help. 519 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: But when you've actually going out done that, can you 520 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: tell us how that has actually helped healing or support? 521 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: What have you learned from that? You know? I think 522 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: personally that service is our purpose and that we do 523 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: it in different ways. I went to New York and 524 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I worked with an organization called Life Camp where they helped, 525 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, victims of gun violence and they try to 526 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: stop gun violence. And a woman by the name of Erica, 527 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: who was amazing runs this organization. It made it also 528 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: made I saw. It also made me not feel so 529 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: alone and that how close we are as humans and 530 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: how connected we are. And we feel like our individual 531 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: stories are the things that make us so separate, but 532 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: it's actually a thing that really connects us, and that 533 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: as I was talking to these young women and these 534 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: single mothers that were younger than me, I got so 535 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: much strength from them because so much so many times 536 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: we think what we go through was just us and 537 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: how did this happen to me? And It's not the 538 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: way to think like that. It's like, who am I? 539 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Why not me? Why is this not happening to me? 540 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: It's happening all around the world. How can I be 541 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: of service? How can my story help someone else through 542 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: their stories? So many times I read a book or 543 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: listen to someone's testimony and they have no idea how 544 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: encouraging that is for me at that time, And so 545 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: I just want my I don't want to have I 546 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: don't want to have my pain in vain. I would 547 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: like to give my pain some purpose and transmute the 548 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: pain into purpose. And if I could help or encourage 549 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: or motivate or pull through, I will sign up for 550 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: that every day, all the time. That's beautiful. I'm so 551 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: glad you said that, because again, it just comes back 552 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: to the same thing that we don't want people. I 553 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: think it's those times when you feel you have nothing 554 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: to give. Is when by giving you have so much 555 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: to gain. Right. It's like when you feel you have 556 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: nothing to give, but but in that moment when you 557 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: choose to give, when you actually feel like you have 558 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: nothing to give, you get so much back from it. 559 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: And I feel like if you sposed to give, right, 560 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: isn't that. Isn't that when you're supposed to give when 561 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, when you're really depressed, when 562 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: you're really they say, when you're really down, do go 563 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: do something for someone else. Step outside of yourself and 564 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: go do something for someone else. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And 565 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: I think if if we can all find daily, weekly, 566 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: monthly ways of doing that by working with organizations that 567 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: are important to us. And I think this is one 568 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: of the things that I've noticed too as well. When 569 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: we look around in the world, there's so much pain, 570 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: and there's so much stress and pressure, and it's overwhelming. 571 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: But if you just go and do one tiny act 572 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: of service in your local area and your local community, 573 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to go and change the world. You 574 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: don't have to go and like raise lots of money 575 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: or do this like big thing. You can do this 576 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: really small thing every week. And not only is that 577 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: going to improve the world, of course, it's improving the world, 578 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: it's going to change someone's life. It's going to change 579 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: yours too, And I think we underestimate what it feels 580 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: like to change one person's life. And I always think about, like, 581 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: if you add the option of when we're like Oh, 582 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: but that only helps three people. If you think about 583 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: those three people and their life experience, I'm sure you 584 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: would a thousand percent shoes to change their experience. And 585 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: I think we we've got lost this. We've got lost 586 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: in this world now of like numbers and millions of 587 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: dollars and big change, and we forget that the community 588 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: is changed, Like that is the world? Does that make sense? 589 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: It's right, it's hot, it's right where you stare, you know, 590 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the small things that you go 591 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: up to a big thing. And the big thing is service, 592 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, like it's integrity, like are you gonna do 593 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: this when no one is watching? Absolutely? You know, am 594 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: I gonna make it? It's also like I'm very intentional 595 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: on my day. So if I know I'm gonna be 596 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: working around a lot of people, my intention is that 597 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, I represent God, that I don't give someone, 598 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't put my stuff on someone else, that I 599 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: bring good energy to a set that you know, if 600 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: someone's having a hard day, I don't have to try 601 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: to make them better, but I can just represent, you know, 602 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: some goodness you know, and some truth. And so I 603 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: think it's important also to set intentions when you're around 604 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I remember you telling me that 605 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: when you're on set, you like choose your own playlist 606 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: to make sure the energy is right and the vibes right, 607 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: and like, you know, I think that I get on 608 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: that and that trailer and I play my little Jazz 609 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: or my self care playlists for my instanse sage. I 610 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: pray I just put myself in a space because I 611 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: don't want to be influenced by my environment. I want 612 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: the environment to be influenced by me. Absolutely, well said, 613 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: Well said Lauren. I want to hear about We spoke 614 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: about this earlier briefly, but I want to dive into 615 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: it being a mother, you know, and we spoke about 616 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: Cameron Cross, who you know, I've enjoyed spending the time 617 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: that I have with them. Tell us about what you've 618 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: been trying to share with them, what lessons, what guidance 619 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you've been trying to pass on to them, but also 620 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: what have you learned from both of them in your 621 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: own life too, Like what have you taken from them? 622 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: Where have they taught you? Because I know they have. 623 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: I think I've learned from them more than they'll ever 624 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: be able to learn from me. They're really they're really 625 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: resilient and like unc they love me regardless of what 626 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: I see in myself sometimes and when I'm down. You know, 627 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Cameron heart has a really big heart. And when I 628 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: was his age, I closed my heart up because there 629 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of trauma around me and I didn't 630 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: I used to think that vulnerability was weakness. And I 631 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: realized how easy it is for him to be vulnerable, 632 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: and how easy it is for him to share his 633 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: heart and his feelings, and how strong and brave that is. 634 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: And so a lot of times I'll be in a 635 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: situation and I would even say, like what would Cam do? 636 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: Because it's intention so pure and heartfelt, and his compassion, 637 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: you know, and crosses very and I learned from him 638 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: his freedom of being himself, total freedom. He is fearless. 639 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: He's like, I got this. If I don't get got 640 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: it right now, I'm gonna get it. You know. I 641 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: didn't have siblings growing up, so watching siblings that love 642 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,959 Speaker 1: is like, h I hope if I ever come back 643 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: that I get to have a sibling that I grew 644 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: up in the house with, because it's beautiful. It's like 645 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: they're a part of each other in a way, and 646 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: I personally liked in stealing my kids integrity, honor, honesty. 647 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: You know you're getting big trouble for lying in this 648 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: household and acceptance of yourself fully. You know, I've been 649 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: really big on like you know, Cam had a test 650 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: today he was really nervous about and I'm like, look, 651 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: if you don't ace the test, you don't ace the test. 652 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: Did you try your best? Yes? Did we study? Yes? 653 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to ace it. You have to show 654 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: up and show out. And that's it. The result of that, 655 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: it's in the universe. And sometimes we don't get the 656 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: result of our you know, actions right away. So just 657 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: make sure you put your best foot forward. And just 658 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: I teach them a lot about God and how there's 659 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: a karma check book, so just to make sure you're 660 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: always putting good pennies in your karma bank. And I'm 661 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: always like you, there's always an opportunity you have good karma, 662 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: so make sure you pay attention to all your opportunities around. 663 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: I love what you mentioned there one thing around the 664 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: idea of you don't always get the reward for the 665 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: hard work and that activity in that moment, and I 666 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: think that is such a powerful thing to teach a 667 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: young person because we always think, like, for example, I 668 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: study for this test, but I didn't get the results, 669 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: so that study was useless, and we don't realize that 670 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: that study maybe really powerful, like five ten years down 671 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: the line, when you remember that one piece of insight 672 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: and it actually gets a win, And that is such 673 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: a powerful, powerful thing to teach someone that the immediate 674 00:39:54,920 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: result is not how powerful that input was, Like, the 675 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: immediate result is not how powerful your effort was in 676 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: that situation. You're going to get to see that for many, 677 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: many years, not at all. I'm just I'm just listening. 678 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to listen to you really attentively, because 679 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: I feel like there's so many things that you've worked 680 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: on and you've practiced that have become so normal for you. 681 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: And when I'm listening to I'm like, Wow, that's actually 682 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: really profound, Like that's a really powerful point. And the 683 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: fact that you're thinking about teaching that to your kids, 684 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: like it's you're not just saying, oh, it doesn't matter 685 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: if you don't use the test. What you're actually saying 686 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: is it doesn't matter if you used the test, because 687 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: what you learned is going to help you at some point. 688 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: And I want you to see that. I want you 689 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: to recognize that you studied and that's going to support 690 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: you in more ways than this test. This test is, 691 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: this test is not the proof that you studied. And now, yeah, 692 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: and that is the that's it. Yeah, Yeah, that's really beautiful. 693 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. And tell tell us about as 694 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: you continue to move on. Now, what are the things 695 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: Lauren now at this stage in your life? You know, 696 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: you've done so much service, You've worked for the community, 697 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: you're embedded you, you're supporting all those people are supporting you. 698 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: What are the things that excite you now? Like? Where 699 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: is it? Where are you now? What brings joy to Lauren? Now? 700 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: I really like creating content that I feel is inspirational 701 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: or motivation. Motivation that really excites me. I've been working 702 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: on a couple lines with Puma with clothes and just 703 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: intention behind that, Like I don't want to just put 704 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: out the clothes. What is it? What are the clothes saying? 705 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: How are the clothes going to make someone feel? What 706 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: intention are you putting behind the clothes? And you know, honestly, 707 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: really simple things like Sundays, I love doing you know, 708 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: devotional service on Sundays and learning more about that and 709 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: applying that. But also just like chilling and watching TV 710 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: with my kids. You know, like I used to think 711 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: it was these massive things that brought me joy, and 712 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: so I would always seek those really big things. And 713 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: really it's like a really comfortable room with the kids 714 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: and they're listening to them laugh or listening to them 715 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: play together, and you know, clean socks and fresh sheets 716 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: like those things bring me big joy. And you know, 717 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: hanging with friends and listening to music, just those things 718 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: and creating things that come from my heart. Definitely. Yeah, 719 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: big shout out to your I say Puma back in England, 720 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: but I know it's Puma out here. We say Puma 721 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: really yeah, we see every time I say Puma, I 722 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: just feel so it just I'm like wow, like that, 723 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: so it's so for my mind. It's crazy, but yeah, 724 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: we call it Puma back in England. But but Puma. Yeah, 725 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: the forever stronger line me and rather a big rather 726 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: a big fans. And it's always nice to wear something 727 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: that means something and that represents something for you. And yeah, 728 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: I love that you're bringing that into fashion and places 729 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: like that to have that meaningfulness and that presence and 730 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: that power. And you know, one thing I remember we 731 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: spoke about which I really appreciate from you, and you 732 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: even mentioned it today where you're like, I wanted to 733 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: let go of that competition in the industry and that comparison. 734 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: Walk us through how you've worked through that, because this 735 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: isn't something that only you experience. It's actually what's been 736 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: created by most industries where people are put against each other, 737 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: people are made to compete for things. You're made to 738 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: believe there's only one spot, there's only one thing, and 739 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: if you get it, then you're losing and you're winning. 740 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: How have you worked through that personally? How have you 741 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: been trying to apply wisdom around that area of your life, 742 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: around comparison and competition that I think we all struggle with. Yeah, 743 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, I remember hearing something Reverend Michael said about 744 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: being in the spirit of celebration. So when something really 745 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: good happens to someone else celebrating, because when you're in 746 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: that spirit of celebration, you're just giving out messages to 747 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: the universe that you like to celebrate, So then the 748 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: universe gives you things to celebrate. So I celebrate everyone's wins. 749 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: You know, I've never I've never really been in envious. 750 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: I never really carry that energy, even young. So that's 751 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: why it always feels funny when it's around me. So like, 752 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: I celebrate everyone's wins because I know that that that 753 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: is that's mine too. It's just the energy of celebration 754 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: and genuinely knowing that there's enough to go around. That 755 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: we live in an abundant universe. So just because someone 756 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: is eating doesn't mean that I don't have food on 757 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: the way. Doesn't mean I can't eat either. It's just 758 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: that there's an abundance of it all. So I just 759 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: celebrate everyone's you know, wins, and you know, congratulate and 760 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: send really good energy out to especially you know, women 761 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: and black women like myself that are doing this is 762 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: not easy. I just am like a I love women, 763 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like a woman like I love women winning, 764 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: and I just sit in the spirit of abundance and celebration. Yeah, 765 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: I think when we start realizing that actually, when people 766 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: in our space win, the space wins, and so it's 767 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: not like you know, it's when you make it about 768 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: one versus one, it can feel like a loss. But 769 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: when you see it as a community, an industry, a 770 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: space within an industry. When it's winning, that means everyone's winning. 771 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: I always think about it like, you know, if you 772 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: look at it through house prices, it's like if someone 773 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: on your street sells the house for a lot of money, 774 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: everyone's prices just went up, Like everyone on that street 775 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: just benefited. But you can look at that and be like, oh, 776 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: but they just made loads of money and so no 777 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 1: one's gonna buy my house. But it's like, actually, that's 778 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: not true. The whole value of the whole street just increased. 779 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: Right in that competition. You know, mind frame, you're just 780 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: blocking all the beautiful things God has for you, you know, 781 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: if you know, you just That's why you're supposed to 782 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: celebrate people when they succeeded at something or accomplish something, 783 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: because you just open your world for more to celebrate. 784 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: So I'm not blocking my blessings. I like all my blessings, 785 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: so I love everyone's blessings absolutely. I love that learn 786 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: We end every Own Purpose episode with the final five, 787 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: So these questions have to be answered with one word 788 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: or one sentence maximum, So you can have one sentence. 789 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: Let's do Lauren London. These are your final five. Question 790 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Number one, what is the best advice you've ever received? 791 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: What you give out to the world? You key, Oh, 792 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. That's good. We've never 793 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: had that. I like that. That's good advice. What is 794 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: the worst advice you've ever received or the worst thing 795 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: anyone's ever said to you? Someone making someone like your possession, 796 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: like you have to keep them, or don't do this, 797 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: or you're gonna lose them. That's really bad advice. Yes, good, good, 798 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: good advice on the bad advice? All right? Question number three, 799 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: what how would you define your current purpose in life? 800 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: Transmuting pain into purpose? Beautiful? I love that. Question number four, 801 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: what is something that you used to value that you 802 00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: don't value anymore? Close? I love that. I love it designers, 803 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: clothes and stuff. Love appreciate them, but I don't all right. 804 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: Fifth and final question, If you could make one law 805 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: that everyone in the world had to follow, what would 806 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: it be. I feel like there will be stricter punishment 807 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: and longer harsher punishment on child abusers. Wow, So hopefully 808 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: to hopefully limit people from doing it to Yeah, And 809 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: are the punishment of people that harm children would be 810 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: you know. I know it's not so spiritual at me, 811 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: but it'd be harsh, harsh, harsh harsh. Yeah, thank you, Lauren. Lauren, 812 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: is there anything that I haven't asked you but it's 813 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: in your heart, on your mind, and your soul that 814 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: you want to share with our own purpose community today? 815 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: You've been so generous and kind with your time. Me 816 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: and RADI adore you. This has been such a powerful conversation. Yeah. 817 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: Is there anything that's on your heart, on mind or 818 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: soul that you want to share that I haven't. I 819 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: feel like you've asked me really good questions and really questions. 820 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm just honored that I anyone 821 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: would want to listen to me for real. So I'm 822 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: just grateful to me here. Lauren. We love you. Everyone 823 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: who's been listening or watching, make sure that you tag 824 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: Lauren and I on Instagram, on Twitter, wherever you're using 825 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: social media, because I love seeing and I love my 826 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: guest to see what resonated with you, what connected with you. 827 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 1: I love bringing you into the conversation so that we 828 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: can notice what really left a mark on you and 829 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 1: impacted you. So make sure you tag us both on 830 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. Lauren, I want to thank you from 831 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart for your time. I can't 832 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: wait to see you again in this new year. Give 833 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 1: Cam and Cross a big hug from me and we 834 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you very soon. Thank you so much, 835 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: thank you. Please give my hug to Ron will Well. 836 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: Thanks Lauren, Bye guys. By N