1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: What's up. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: y'all know how much I love talking about health, about fitness, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: but I don't really let it work out. But Shante 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: is here with me today, let's go. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Don't You don't have no pressure in working out? You 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It starts with just thinking about 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: something that you want to do. I'll give you props 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: for that. 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: I watch workouts on TV. You know how you lay 11 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: there in the hotel room and you're. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: Like, oh, they got to work out. 13 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: And you know what else I do. 15 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest and we'll talk about some Shawnte 16 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: history in a second. But the other thing that I 17 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: do is I look on Instagram and then I see 18 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: workouts people do and I'm like, I'm gonna try that later, 19 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: and I actually save them and then I never do them. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 4: But you want to know what something funny. 21 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: This is gonna sound very shady, but we talk about 22 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: like when when fitness influencers on Instagram show like six 23 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: workouts and like do this for a minute, and I'm like, 24 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: no way, you can't do it for a minute, though, 25 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: Like they do it for like eight seconds and slow 26 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: it down. I feel bit, but I don't blame you 27 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: for not doing. 28 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: It though I went to I have every intention. 29 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: And then you see those like thirty day challenges and 30 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: it's like day one, you know you're gonna do ten 31 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: push ups, and then day two and I. 32 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Just I don't know how many days do you make none? 33 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: I just look at it. I told you I saved 34 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: them one day. 35 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: But that's why I'm glad you're here, because I'm sure 36 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm not alone that and you Shanty have had quite 37 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: a journey. Just knowing your whole story of how you 38 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: got to where you are today, where you the person 39 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: that everybody knows from insanity, you know, and. 40 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: Also hip hop abs. 41 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: That was very important I think for our community because 42 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: we all want some. We still want some hip hop ads, 43 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: we do, but let's talk about your history and how 44 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: you even got there, because this is our first time, 45 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, sitting down together, and so I just want 46 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: people to know where you came from. 47 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: Well, I came from Camden, New Jersey, but you know, 48 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: I grew up in you know, at the end of 49 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: the day, I like to tell people I grew up 50 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: with not a lot of money. So I got a 51 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: scholarship to college, which came with a food card, and 52 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: I could eat all the food I wanted and the dominoes. 53 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: Dominoes delivered with the food cards. 54 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: So I just remember my freshman year, I would just 55 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: order Dominoes off the top, like, oh my gosh. And 56 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: I wasn't running track at the time, and so by 57 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: the time I got to my sophomore year, first semester, 58 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: I was fifty pounds heavier than when I left high school, 59 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: and freshman fifteen people had the freshman fifteen. 60 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 4: I had the freshman fifty. And then so what I 61 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 4: did was I was like, you know, I forget this. 62 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: I looked in the mirror, I was like, very unhappy 63 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: with what I saw, and I was just like, I'm 64 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: just going to hit the gym. I got on the treadmill. 65 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: I ran for ten minutes a day for a while. 66 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: Then I went to the weight room, eventually starting to 67 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: love fitness outside of track and field because I always 68 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: played sports, so it was easy to be motivated by 69 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: like winning, but just internal motivation to want to get better. 70 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: That was a different strategy for me mentally, and so 71 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: I changed my major from communications to sports science. And 72 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: after I did that, I had to teach group exercise classes. 73 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: Very first class I promoted on the college campus, and 74 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be like, you know, fifteen 75 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: twenty people come. Ninety people showed up. So my very 76 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: first day of ever teaching, I had to teach two 77 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: classes back to back. 78 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 4: And then I like fell in love. 79 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: Let me ask, how did so many people show up? 80 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: Like why is it that ninety people showed up? What 81 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: was it that you did? 82 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: So I was the guy at the parties in the 83 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: middle of the circle, and you know, I was. I 84 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: was very popular on campus for my freshman year, just 85 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: like being active on campus. I was always involved in 86 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: stuff and I was, you know, really interested in fraternities, 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: and so I actually pledged Alpha pa Alpha fraternity, so 88 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: I knew a lot of people. And so once that happened, 89 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, I just like absolutely just got a lot 90 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: of people to come to class. 91 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: And I was really. 92 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: Surprised though, right and choreography was was your thing? Really 93 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: at first? 94 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 95 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: So at first I did a hip hop of Erobi's class. 96 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember the grind workout. This 97 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: is dating me. I don't know how you are. I'm 98 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: forty five, so the grind workout with the real world 99 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: cast remember. 100 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Eric needs Oh my gosh, yes I do, so you 101 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: can date me all you were, We're all day to here, 102 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: we're in our forties. 103 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: Go. So, so I taught that particular routine my very 104 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: first class. I still remember to this day how it goes. 105 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: And then from there, you know, the rec center was like, 106 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: can you teach more classes? Can you teach more classes? 107 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: So then how to get certified and kickbox and step 108 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: and you know, basic aerobics, you know AffA certified. 109 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: It's amazing, yeah, because you were making money from a 110 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: young age then, yo, and you. 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: Know how much money I was making because I was 112 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: like the only one in town that was like, can 113 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: I put myself on the back that good I was 114 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,239 Speaker 3: at the time, I was making fifty dollars a class, 115 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: which is unheard. 116 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: Of when I was in college. I was making fifty 117 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: dollars a shift exactly, and was I Yeah, I had. 118 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: To work a long time to make that little fifty dollars, 119 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: so okay, so yeah, it was numbers. 120 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: So then from there I got into dance, and then 121 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: from dance I got more into fitness, and then I 122 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: got into fitness conventions, and then with fitness conventions, I 123 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: applied to be a presenter and I started teaching. 124 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: All over the world. I wanted to work. 125 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: For best International presenter. And then I was in a 126 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: pharmaceutical industry, you know, health and wellness and pharmaceuticals, and 127 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: I left that industry because I wanted to be a 128 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: professional dancer. 129 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 4: Moved to LA, started teaching group exercise. 130 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: And I watch you and so during that time, you 131 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: also dated somebody who was not very supportive of you. 132 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Yes, moving to LA oh oh, you know, yeah, and 133 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: doing your thing. 134 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: And I want to talk about that because sometimes the 135 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: people around you and your circle can actually help dictate 136 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: whether or not you chase your dreams or I feel 137 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: like I can't do this, you know, And that's an 138 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: important lesson too. 139 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: So can you talk about before moving to LA what 140 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: that was like for you? 141 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 4: Yo? So this is crazy. So I was dating this guy. 142 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: I still have scars on my body from like him 143 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: throwing plates at me and stuff like that was wild. 144 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: So when people say they've been in abusive relationships, they 145 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: you know, they oftentimes think it's only women that you know, 146 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: get that abuse. But like you know, especially in same 147 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: sexual relationships, it happens, right. So I just remember coming 148 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: home from one of my biggest choreography shows. 149 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 4: It was actually my first big choreography show. 150 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: I got so much like love and support from the community. 151 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 4: It was a few different cities that came to this theater. 152 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: And I got home and I was just happy, and 153 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: I was in my bedroom and my boyfriend at the 154 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: time was like, I just want to let you know 155 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: you'll never be a professional dancer. 156 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Like, where was it? What was he doing? 157 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 4: Well? He was just jealous. Yeah, And that was the moment. 158 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: I was like, that was it. Because there's one thing 159 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: to go through abuse and like having to mentally navigate 160 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 3: your way through that, but it's another thing for me 161 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: to tell me I'm not going to do something that 162 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: I'm passionate about. And so, like two weeks later, he 163 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: went to work. I called my brother. I was like, yeah, 164 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: all the trash bags that you can. 165 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 4: He was at work. He only worked a mile away. 166 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Me and my brother like packed up all my clothes 167 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: and then we just bounced. 168 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: So I moved back to my mom's house. 169 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's important because I did want you to 170 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: talk about that because sometimes, like you said, people are 171 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: always like, oh, how could you stay in an abusive relationship? 172 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: But that was me. 173 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: I would have did X, Y, and Z, And it's 174 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: not always easy to get yourself out of that situation. 175 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: And sometimes we also feel like maybe they're right. 176 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, oftentimes it comes to self confidence, self love, 177 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: and it also comes down to what you experienced as 178 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: a child, because I was sexually abused as a child 179 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: from the time I was eight to the time I 180 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: was twelve, and so I found this. 181 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: Out in therapy later. 182 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: But what I found out was that my confidence was low, 183 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: and I felt that I deserved that kind of life. 184 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 3: So we oftentimes look at people who are getting abused 185 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: and we're like, oh, my gosh, like if that were me, 186 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you can't say if that were me, 187 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: because you're actually not in it, Nor do you know 188 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: what that person had to go through and what they 189 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: haven't worked through to be able to not make the 190 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: decision that you're saying you would make now. And so 191 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: you know, I just tell people out there, like, give 192 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: people a little bit of credit, a little bit of 193 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: space to just like kind of work through that and 194 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: also give them love and support instead of just judging 195 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: them for not making the quote unquote right decision, especially 196 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: when it comes to your physical abuse. But more importantly, 197 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, the mental abuse is actually worse 198 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 3: because it scars you for much longer. 199 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: And I want to ask you, even dealing with the 200 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: sexual abuse, You've been very open about that as well, 201 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: how did you, like, how did that stop? 202 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: So this is so. 203 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: Wild, So I'm just going to be super candid here. 204 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 3: It stopped when I was able to have an orgasm. 205 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: So my abuser was my stepfather, and he would literally 206 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: come up in the middle of the night. 207 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: He would always do it when he came home drunk. 208 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: I would hear him pull up in. 209 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: A driveway because we had like a gravel rock driveway, 210 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: and I just knew what was going to happen. He 211 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: fought with my mom, which their bedroom was right under 212 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: my bedroom. He come upstairs, go into the bathroom, turn 213 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: on the light because in the bathroom, you know you 214 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: have the vent, So turn on the bathroom, close the door. 215 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: So he my mom probably thought like he just went 216 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 3: upstairs and went to the bathroom, but he would come 217 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: my room, start by rubbing my butt, turn me over 218 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: perform oral sex with me. 219 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 4: And it was so weird because like I. 220 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: Actually had the feeling of an orgasm from the time 221 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: I was eight, but I never ejaculated. And the first 222 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: time I did that was the last time it stopped. 223 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: Now here's the crazy thing that a lot of people 224 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: don't know happens. 225 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 4: So for me, once he stopped, that was like my 226 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: first heartbreak. 227 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: Because you think that this this person's going around saying 228 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: they love you and like you're their favorite child and 229 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: you're doing this and you're protecting them by not telling. 230 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: And so I used to do things like when I 231 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: knew he was coming upstairs, I would just be in 232 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: my underwear, like I would do those things. Stockholm syndrome 233 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: to the tea. I was gonna say that at the end, 234 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: thanks for saying that, and so to a tea. And 235 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: nobody understands, like what it's like. When I tell people that, 236 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: they're like, what, Like that's crazy, and I'm like the 237 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: foundation of my youth was that. And I, you know, 238 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: weather to storm for that because I thought I was 239 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: protecting my brother who was in the room next door, 240 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, at least he's going to 241 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: stop fighting with my mom, so I can take the 242 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: brunt of this abuse, and he's going to leave my 243 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: mom alone, right, And so it ended up happening. He 244 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: actually stuck around for a long time. I never told 245 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: anyone until I was twenty one years old. However, I 246 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: told my mom after she called me and was like, 247 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: you know, he finally left, like he had a gun 248 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: to my head. And she was like, it's you know, 249 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: he finally left, and that was like the end. 250 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Do you feel like she had any idea prior or 251 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: do you think she really didn't know? 252 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 3: Yo, she had no wow idea because he was like 253 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: the person in the family, you know when we would 254 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: go to the Philadelphia like his family like he was 255 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: you know, he was the what I like to call 256 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: the h and I c you know what I'm saying, 257 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: and so everyone like worshiped him and they thought he 258 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: was the best. 259 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: And so when we would go there, he would. 260 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: Be like walking around with me, and I looked like him, 261 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: but he wasn't my biological father, you know. So I'm 262 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: walking around like, oh yeah, like I'm the prince of 263 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: the family, holding this secret and just going along with 264 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: what everyone else thought about him. And you never know, 265 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: but you want to know what's like even crazier. So, 266 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: once I got into college and I started dancing, I 267 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: actually ended up getting accepted into this really amazing dance 268 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: concert in Philadelphia. And i'd never talked to him as 269 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: after I told my mom everything, Do you know that 270 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: he showed up to this dance concert and stood in 271 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: the back of the theater while I was dancing. 272 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 4: It was fucking psychotic. I was like, this dude is psychotic. 273 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: WI. 274 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: So here's what I did. 275 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, you have two options here. 276 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: You can walk out of the room like act like 277 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: you don't see him, or you can perform the fuck 278 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: out of this dance, which I did, and I walked 279 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: up to him. I was like, I hope you enjoyed it. 280 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: I turned away and I walked away, and that was 281 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 3: the last time I ever spoke to him. 282 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: That is wild, And so he's never gotten any accountability 283 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: or had any repercussions. 284 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: No. But here's what's even crazier. No one ever really 285 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: asked me about this this deep So thank you because 286 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm able to share this. So come and find out 287 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: years later, I'm sitting in the house with his sister 288 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: and my cousin who's her daughter, and they ended up 289 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: telling me he passed away. 290 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: I had no idea how he passed away. 291 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: And then they they also don't know that I was molested, 292 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: like they I wrote my book, but they had no 293 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 3: idea that this happened. So they're telling me this and 294 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, good and then they say, you know, we 295 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: just want you to know that the last things that 296 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: he was asking for was he was like, do you 297 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: think because he died of cancer and they were like, 298 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: he was like, do you think you know? My boys 299 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 3: would come see me, which is me and my brother, 300 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: and I'm like are you Like are you fucking crazy? 301 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: And so here's the crazy thing. 302 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: So on TikTok, Like a couple years later, I did 303 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: this story or this TikTok video about how I was 304 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: in the lesson. I explained this over the course of 305 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: like how this song portrayed the TikTok to go. And 306 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: that's when the rest of the family found out. They 307 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: never found out from my book. They found out from 308 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: that TikTok. 309 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 310 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, and it follows you forever. I mean that 311 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: happened less than five years ago. 312 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: So in my forties you know what I'm saying something 313 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: you're still processing and always dealing with them. 314 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: You know, well, I actually don't. It's always with me. 315 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: I use it as power now because I've been in therapy. 316 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: I went to therapy forever. I'm still in therapy. That's 317 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: something else in therapy, like last week, which is a 318 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: whole other conversation. 319 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I also say you did your 320 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: DNA testing. 321 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: I sure did. 322 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Listen, Shanty, I know we got to get back to. 323 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: The but I do know we don't need to get 324 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: the fitness. 325 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: Let's talk. 326 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: This is the real This is real life. This is 327 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: real life. 328 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: Anybody can see me with a six pack of big biceps. 329 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: But like, what's behind the six pack? Right, what's behind. 330 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: The behind the six path? 331 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because if it could empty, 332 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: I could just be full of myself or you can 333 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: know why I'm telling you. 334 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes people do think that that's the 335 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: that is sometimes the preconceived notion. Now he's got a 336 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: six pack, he's a you know, a dumb jock exactly, 337 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: And people do sometimes have a tendency to feel like, oh, 338 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: he's just a guy that goes to the gym, a 339 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: gym wreck all the time, but nothing behind that. So 340 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: I want you to talk about this DNA testing and 341 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: this sister that you discovered your biological father, all of that. 342 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: Yo. So this is like crazy, YO, I'm like, ampt, 343 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: I'm getting to tell all my stories. These are stories 344 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: that I tell my friends. Are we out to dinner 345 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: and they're like what? But so my husband, so we 346 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: did a DNA test because my husband. My husband was like, 347 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: I want to prove to you that I'm one hundred 348 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: percent white. And I'm like, there's and you know, I'm 349 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: like everybody derives from black people. You know. He was like, 350 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm proving to you that I'm one hundred percent white. 351 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, let's see. So I don't 352 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: know what we were doing, but we had friends over 353 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: that day. It was like another couple, myself and my husband, 354 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: and it was his mom and dad. So it was 355 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: six of us, and you know, the DNA test came 356 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: and we're like spitting in this thing. So anyway, you 357 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: send it away and then like six or eight weeks 358 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: later you get it back. So we opened them up 359 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: and he literally is like, I told you I was 360 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: one hundred percent white. I'm like, damn, you want one 361 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: hundred percent white? Like damn? Right and then right, and 362 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: so you know, I found out was I knew what 363 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: I was, like, I knew I was twenty five percent white, 364 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: I was seventy five percent black. And it even told 365 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: me where my family migrated to, which was like the Carolinas, 366 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: because my grandmother was always like, you're from the Carolina's 367 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: like that's where your family was. Cool. So I don't 368 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: think anything of it. And about a couple of weeks later, 369 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: I get this notification in my inbox in the emails 370 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: that they send out, and it said that I had 371 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: a first cousin, but I ignored it. So then my 372 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: mom calls me and she's like, Yo, you need to 373 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: check your inbox for you know, the DNA test you took, 374 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: because there's a woman that's a the wife of my 375 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: brother's barber that's saying that she thinks that you're their 376 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: cousin or sister. It's wild, I know. And so they're 377 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: like thinking, she's thinking that we're first cousins, and my 378 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: brother's like, oh my god, that's so crazy. 379 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 4: Like I've literally known this. He's been going to this. 380 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: Barber shop for like fifteen years, right, So he's like, 381 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: I've known this person, I saw them, like their kids whatever. 382 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: Anyway, so she reaches out to me. We kind of connect. 383 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: So she thought that my biological father's brother was her dad, 384 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: but it actually ended up being my biological father wow. 385 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: And he got her mother pregnant when they were in 386 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: high school, and her mother, I believe, made her give 387 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: the child up for adoption. So they gave my sister 388 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: up for adoption. So she found this family. She lived 389 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: with this family who you know, raised her and loved her. 390 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: But then she went on a search to try and 391 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: find her biological family. So anyway, once she found me, 392 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: everything started to unravel. And so she ended up reaching 393 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: out to my biological father's mom, my grandmother, and was like, yeah, 394 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: it's like that's your dad, and so we ended up finally, 395 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 3: so she's been really close to my mom and my 396 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: brother for about seven years. I actually didn't meet her 397 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: right away just because I live in Arizona and I 398 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: never got a chance. 399 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: But we went out to dinner. 400 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: And I was just like, you are one hundred. 401 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Percent my sister, like you ahead of time. 402 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: It was just like it was crazy. It was just crazy, 403 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: like we don't look one hundred percent alike, but our personalities, 404 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: like she, myself and my brother share this one type 405 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: of thing that we do with our personalities. And it 406 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: was just really cool to see. And she's so sweet. 407 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: She messaged me if I don't mess her for like 408 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. She always messages me like hey brother, 409 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 3: because she actually didn't grow up, she didn't know our family, 410 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: so she's just good at like staying connected. 411 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: It's really really sweet. 412 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: You got a lot going on, Sean tis going behind 413 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: the six pack. 414 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: It's a lot going on. You know. Robin Robbers wrote 415 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: a book that said everybody's got something, you know what 416 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: I mean. So when you look at someone, you can 417 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: judge anyone on the surface. They can look at you, 418 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: they're like, oh she pretty. You know she's successful. You know, 419 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 3: they can think you somehow somebody gave you a lot 420 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: of money and that's how you got your successful exactly. 421 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: I would love that anybody listening, I'm fine, I don't 422 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: do not mind. 423 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: So if you want to be my sugar daddy, honey, nah, 424 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: but cer anyway, you know, you can look at anybody. 425 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: Michelle is nothing but what people want you to see. 426 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 427 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: No, And I think that's great because you've always been 428 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: so open with everything that's happening in your journey. That's 429 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: probably part of the reason why people feel connected to you. 430 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know, when I teach group exercise, no one 431 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: really understands this. When I'm saying I know you can 432 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: do it, it's coming from a deeper place than I 433 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 3: know your muscles can push you up. 434 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: I know you've worked this hard. 435 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: I know you can do way more than what you're 436 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: doing now, not just inside the workout, but outside the workout. 437 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: So anyone out there that's about to work out, if 438 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: you ever want to do one of my fitness programs. 439 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: Just know it's hard. 440 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: I do not it's hard, But I actually don't care 441 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: if you can do the push up. I just want 442 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: you to take that into the motivation that's making you 443 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: do the push up to help you achieve things outside 444 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 3: of the workout in your. 445 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: Life and listen for you. You even said that some 446 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: of the workouts that you have is hard for you 447 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: to do. 448 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: Listen, I ain't got time listen. 449 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: I'll be the first one to tell you I don't 450 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 3: have time for insanity anymore. You're not like gonna make 451 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: me do a power jump. I mean, I'll do it 452 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: if somebody paid me for real, for real, But you 453 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: know it's hard. I'm not everyone says, you know, it's 454 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: like when you see a person who's fit or they 455 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: do have a six pack. I don't know if you 456 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: ever heard or have you ever said to somebody like, oh, 457 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: you can eat anything you want. No, Like, the only 458 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 3: reason why I look like this is because I had 459 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 3: to have a tremendous amount of will power and commitment 460 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 3: status in my own brain to stick to the plan. 461 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: You know, people say that as far as getting into shape, 462 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: it's seventy percent diet, thirty percent workout. 463 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: What do you think is the balance. 464 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: I mean it's one hundred percent mental. That's why I 465 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 4: have a tattoo on my arm. 466 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: It says, conquer your mind, transform your life, because without 467 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: the mental fortitude to push forward, you're not staying committed. 468 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 3: Like if your body can do it, if you have 469 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: a healthy enough body to do it, your mind is 470 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: telling you I'm going to keep doing it. Somebody can 471 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: work out for a year straight and their mind can flip, 472 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: or they can have one bad day, or someone can 473 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: pass away in their lives or they can get broken 474 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: up with and it'll all go to shit. If your 475 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: mind is saying like no, like you gotta fight, like 476 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: I gotta keep going forward. 477 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: As we are watching people transform their bodies with ozembic 478 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 2: and all these other regovi and all these other medications, 479 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: and then I'm hearing like clearly was these are medications 480 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: that have been around. People have been using them doctors 481 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: for diabetes and for other things. But now people are 482 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: using it because they want to lose weight. And I 483 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: understand that sometimes obesity can lead to other diseases. 484 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: So there's that. 485 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: I think you know that notion about like, don't just 486 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 2: take this as a quick fix, but it is important 487 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: sometimes to get medication because you don't want to get 488 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: these diseases. It can't be preventative. But what are your 489 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: thoughts about that? Because I know you have to use 490 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: those pretty much forever, right, is what they're saying. 491 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: For them to continue to work, kind of like Rogain 492 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: for your. 493 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 4: Hair, Come on Rogain, or you can get the new 494 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: hair transplants. They work. 495 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: They actually are really good. 496 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: But that's another rich will. 497 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: I will get back to your question. But in insanity 498 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: and in my early days of fitness. I was bald, 499 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: and I was bald by choice because when I was 500 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: in college, I couldn't afford twenty dollars a week for 501 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: a haircut, so I would just start shaving my head. 502 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Choice. 503 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: Baby, So right, So I when I started growing my 504 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: hair out in til twenty five, they were like, oh, like, 505 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: is that a wig? Is that that? I'm like, no 506 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: offensive people who do, because I'm like, go for it, like, 507 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: live your best life. 508 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: But no, bitch, is money money new right? 509 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? But my money didn't buy 510 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 3: my hair. But anyway, back to ozepic, semi glue, tide 511 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: and all the other fun stuff that people are using. 512 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: So here's my take on that. I equate that to somebody. 513 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: Who's getting breast in plants, who's getting a Brazilian butt lit, 514 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: who's getting a mommy tummy tuck. Like, these people are 515 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: doing this for whatever reason they need to do it. 516 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: Is it confidence? 517 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: Is it? 518 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: Most of the time? It's confidence? Most of the time, 519 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: it's something they don't like about themselves, So it's helping 520 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: them actually live a better quality of life by thinking 521 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: of themselves as a better person. This just now happens 522 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: to be a medication. The only thing that it gets 523 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 3: hairy is that it is very true. These drugs make 524 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: you less hungry, explos your digestive down, digestive system down, 525 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: and you know it does help you burn the fat 526 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 3: basically because you know that's why people with diabetes takes it. 527 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: The thing is there's no support people are getting. It's like, here, 528 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: take this and it's a cosmetic drug. But unlike when 529 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: someone gets gastric bypassed and they have to go through 530 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: six eight weeks of mental evaluation and mental health support 531 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: and going to a counselor teaching them how to get better. 532 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: This is how your life is going to change because 533 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 3: you've ever been thin before. They're just giving them the 534 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: drug with no support behind it, and I just think 535 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: that that's the one thing that's missing. If someone chooses 536 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: to take this drug and the FDA says it's fine 537 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: to take for the rest of their life, cool, but 538 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: are you actually going to change the action that got 539 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: you to the place where you were unhealthy? 540 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: Or are you taking it because you have. 541 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: Worked so hard and you you were never able to 542 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 3: lose weight and you were eating as best you can. 543 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: So there's so many different variables for me to. 544 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: Be like, oh my gosh, like that's so dumb, Like 545 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: I can't believe people can do that. 546 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, look, it's your body, you know. I can 547 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: easy say like. 548 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: You shouldn't do that, like you should work hard like. 549 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: And I think it's hard when people do say oh, 550 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: just work out and eat better, because that's if it 551 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: was that easy, we would all do it. 552 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: It is not that easy, and no one. I think 553 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: the thing that we all fall down. 554 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta go down to go up. 555 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: I think what's really really annoying about that entire process 556 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: is that every person that's listening and every person in here, 557 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: we've all judged somebody on something. 558 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: But perfection is temporary. Change is constant. 559 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: So we have to stop focusing on judging people and 560 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: be like, how am I going to actually change myself to. 561 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: Be a better person. 562 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: You know, if they're grown, if they're above over eighteen, 563 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: they have to decide what it is that they want 564 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 3: to do for themselves. I just wish that something like 565 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: ozempics and we glue tye, these peptides that are helping 566 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: people lose weight. I wish more support, yeah, just you know, 567 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 3: either weekly or monthly support to be like, how are 568 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: you doing? 569 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 4: Did you change your diet? But oftentimes doctors, no shaded doctor, 570 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: A lot of doctors. 571 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: Want to give you medicine before they want to give 572 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: you the guidance on how to change and how to 573 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: eat and how to exercise. So I just think that 574 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: there's needs to be a bigger conversation around it because 575 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: there's some people who are taking it that they probably 576 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: see that they don't need to take it, and they 577 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: would be much more mentally healthy and more confident by 578 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: doing it themselves. 579 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: Now, let me ask this about yourself personally, since we've 580 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: been doing this this whole time, but you've also been 581 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: doing a different fitness journey now, right, you've been doing 582 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: the these fitness competitions, yes, and so your body has changed. 583 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: How is that for you mentally? Because I know sometimes 584 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: we're so used to seeing ourselves a certain way that 585 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: now you're bigger as far as you know, bulking up, 586 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: How is that for you? 587 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 3: Yo? 588 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: So it's I'm gonna be super honest. 589 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: So when I first started the journey, I had shoulder surgery, 590 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: so everything changed, like I couldn't do my hit training 591 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: or insanity, didn't want to do it anyway, you know, 592 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: Burbie suck. 593 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: But anyway, so. 594 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: I started to know. So I started lifting weights and 595 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: I got this amazing trainer name is Kristin and she 596 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: just like Kristin Bennett, and she just whooped my ass 597 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: in a jim. 598 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: And throughout that process, I loved it. 599 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: I remember getting the two hundred and twenty pounds and 600 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 3: looking different, and each time I would weigh myself and 601 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: I would staying two hundred and twenty pounds. My body 602 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: was changing. But simultaneously as that was happening, you know, 603 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm a forty plus year old man, and I realized, 604 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: like one day, me and my husband were having an 605 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: intimate moment. 606 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 4: And so afterwards, I was like, yo, he ain't as 607 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: strong as he was before. 608 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: I'm like something, something's happening up, you know what I mean. 609 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like down there is not feeling the same. 610 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 3: So I went to the doctor and I was just like, 611 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: you know, what can I do about this? I mean, 612 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: I wasn't like I could still perform, but it just wasn't. 613 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't wasn't it wasn't all the way. 614 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't wasn't exactly. 615 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 3: So then he was like, you know, we have you know, 616 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 3: testosterone support for men, and so I actually got my 617 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: first like testosterone actually got pills the first time, like 618 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: pellets that they release every now and then. Anyway, I 619 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 3: switched to like getting testosterone shots and it changed everything. 620 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: I became like happier, more energy. I even slept better, 621 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: and uh my husband realized that I got stronger, if 622 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, quote unquote. So it just 623 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 3: made me. It just made me become so much more 624 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: confident that I just told my my trainer. I was like, 625 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: I think I want to compete, and she was like, 626 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: are you sure? And she actually said to me, she 627 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: was like, I'm worried more about the mental effect that 628 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: it's going to have on you rather than the physical effect. 629 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: She was like, cause you're gonna feel strong, you' gonna 630 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: look good. 631 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: And I was like why and she's like, because on 632 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 3: show day you're not gonna look how you really look, 633 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: because on show day you're basically taking your body and 634 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: trying to emphasize your kinesiology, right, You're trying to like 635 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: your muscular skeletal system. You're like, how rip can I be? 636 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: How symmetrical can I be? And she was like on 637 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: that day, do not get attached to that face. And 638 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: it's so interesting. I remember like looking at pictures like 639 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: a couple of days later, and I was just like, oh, 640 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, I look so good that day for the show, 641 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: but I'm like, that is not the face. 642 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: But here's the thing that's like really tough. 643 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: So then I had to go into a place where 644 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: the judges were like, I got I won, you know, 645 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: five first place metals and I made it to Nationals. Okay, 646 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: so I'm going to right your little flex there. So 647 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to Nationals in July. And so my coach 648 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 3: was like, now you have to bulk up, and they 649 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: were like he and my coach, he and my trainer, 650 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: Justin and Christen were like, he said, you got to 651 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: get to two thirty five and she's like, you have 652 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: to get the two hundred and forty pounds now. Mind you, 653 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: why did I start this journey in the first ways 654 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 3: Because I was two hundred and twenty eight pounds and 655 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: I hated the way that I look. So there was 656 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 3: a total mental fuck that was happening as I was 657 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: gaining weight. And the one thing that I absolutely hated 658 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: about myself when I saw myself in the mirror that 659 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: day is like my full face, right, and I like 660 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: still struggle with that today. Like my husband's like, oh 661 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: my god, you're absolutely beautiful. And anytime somebody hits on 662 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: me in the gym, thank you very much. When you 663 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: hit on me at thirty five, I appreciate it. You 664 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: have no idea, so just keep on hitting on me. 665 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 4: But so that's the only thing that's like really tough. 666 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: And I love my body. 667 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: I love the thickness, you know what I mean. Thicker 668 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: than a snicker is a real thing. And you don't 669 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: have to eat snickers, but you can. I'm a snicker, 670 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: but you know. So I love the body. I loved 671 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: the building of mysel I can feel it. But I 672 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: still kind of have a problem with the full face 673 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 3: thing that I'm working through it. 674 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: And oh, my weight goes to my face whenever I 675 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: gained like three pounds. My face is like the first 676 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: thing I feel like you could always tell looking at 677 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: my face right before I get my period. 678 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: My face is like yeah, I see it. 679 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah it's annoying because then I annoying. I hate certain 680 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 2: like angles. 681 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: But no one else thinks that way about us. 682 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: Now, I hear it. 683 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: Now we're on the same page. You're on the same page. 684 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: Like I look at somebody like even when I see 685 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: guys who I think are hot that were in, you know, 686 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: a show, and I see them in their bulky face, 687 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, damn it even hot or bigger. Like when 688 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: somebody says that to me, I'm like, it doesn't apply 689 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: to me. You know what. I'm saying something with you. 690 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: I saw that you also, because since you're so open, 691 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: I saw you on I guess it's called X now 692 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: saying that you feel you have sex like three to 693 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: four times a week. 694 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Okay, Oh follow me on X follow me. 695 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen some X on x X. 696 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: I actually just showed I actually just showed two in 697 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 3: the thirty five pounds of feet back here because I'm 698 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: like listening to the Yeah I don't know X. But yes, 699 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: me and my husband have been together thirteen years. And 700 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: let me tell you something. So the V too, Yes, 701 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: the V is there. I don't go too low, not there, 702 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: but Angela, you are taking me. You're taking me all 703 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: the way there and I'm here for it. Yeah, you know, 704 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: I think. So here's one thing. So I almost partner 705 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 3: with this cockering company, and when we were going through 706 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: the process of partnering with him, you I found a lot. 707 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: I found out a lot and learned a lot about 708 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: you know, male health down there. And one of the 709 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: main reasons people get testicular cancer and things like that 710 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: is because they don't use it. And the one reason 711 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: why people really get you know, limp down there is 712 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: because you know, you have to use it. 713 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: If you don't lose it, use it. 714 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: You lose. So you got and my husband, first of all. 715 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: My husbands, he's fifty two. He doesn't look at you 716 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: can follow him on X to Scott Blocker and I'm 717 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: forty five and I'm like, bro, like you're outperforming me. 718 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: Like I gotta pull up, you know what I say. 719 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: The testosterone help soon. But yeah, we have a lot 720 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: of fun after Still. 721 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: So what happened with the Cochrane company. 722 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: They didn't want to pay me enough money. 723 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Okay, if I'm showing my cock your. 724 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: Own, it's going to be some money behind it. 725 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Do you hear you should develop your own I think 726 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: so too. 727 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: Actually, one of the woman who. 728 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: In that case, you know, I've had a. 729 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 4: Request to get for me and my husband to gets. 730 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a real. 731 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: Demand for that, I know, but I'm like, that's a 732 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: one time purchase. I got to figure out how to 733 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: make passive income from it. Now. 734 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: Some people use them enough and they got to get 735 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: a new one if it gets worn out. Moving on, listen, 736 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: we got to talk about dig Deeper, because that is your. 737 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: This whole time, you know, speaking of dil dos. 738 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back on the fitness train. 739 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Back to that. 740 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 2: So let's talk about dig Deeper and why you just 741 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: decided to develop this new program for people. 742 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: It actually goes back to what I was saying about 743 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 3: my shoulder surgery. I just realized that as I've gotten older, 744 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 3: train in the way that I was training before. While 745 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: I felt really great in cardiovascular health, there's nothing better 746 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: than putting on muscle. The energy and where people have 747 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: to understand, especially women, because y'all say, oh, you're not 748 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: gonna get bulky. 749 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, you're not gonna get bulky. It's not possible. 750 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 3: However, you turn your body into a fat burning machine 751 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: the more muscle you have. But to make that more 752 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: like in Layman's terms, you will increase your metabolism. The 753 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: more muscle you have and so you know, a large, 754 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: a large part of my audience for home fitness is women. 755 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 3: It's way above eighty percent. But at the same time, 756 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: women carry more fat than men. Naturally. You have boobs, 757 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: your hips, you have your cycle, you know these, all 758 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 3: of these things going to play and so what I'm 759 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: trying to do. Obviously, guys they follow it, they get it, 760 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: you know whatever. But I want women to understand, like, 761 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: building muscle is not a bad thing. It is literally 762 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: your best friend. 763 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: And now I agree it helps your metabolism. That's why 764 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: my trainer to always tell me you have to do 765 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: strength training because I love doing cardio, I will run, 766 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: I will do all of that, but strength training is 767 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: so hard for me. But it definitely does. And I 768 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: think with your pasture it helps so much. As we're 769 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 2: getting older and we're all like looking down like this, 770 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: even being able to work these muscles in your back, 771 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: that's what's going to really help you with any type 772 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: of pain that you have there too. And I notice 773 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: when I do follow a regiment, it does help. 774 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: Yes, so perfect, I love it. You just gave a 775 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 3: plug for dig Deeper. And what I do is I 776 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: teach people. It's designed in three different phases or collections, 777 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: if you will. And the first one is like these 778 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: giant circuits that just get your muscles sore, get the 779 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: moving I'm teaching how to activate. Then it goes into 780 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: like super set and time under tention, where you gain 781 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: more control of your muscles. 782 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: You really start to build. And then it goes to. 783 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: The build phase where that's where a lot of people 784 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: find it difficult, but it's more fun because the weight 785 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 3: is a little bit heavier, and that's where a lot 786 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: of women get afraid. 787 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, that wasths too heavy. 788 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna you know. 789 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's me, this is it, but this is 790 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 4: a good day. 791 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: But remember the first you were I don't know about you, 792 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: but like for people out there, the first time you're 793 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: able to do a push up, and how powerful that felt, right, 794 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: you know? 795 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just like the consistency that's building your strength. 796 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: Even a plank for me, if I remember when I 797 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: was doing yoga all the time, and then I was 798 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: able to plank for sixty seconds. At first, because I 799 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: couldn't do it, my whole body would be shaking. And 800 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: then after I kept going and kept going and I 801 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: was able to do that for sixty seconds. 802 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: It was amazing. I couldn't believe it. 803 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: Yeah it's yeahs just over time. 804 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: So dig deeper is all strengths. 805 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. 806 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: I don't you need a bench in dumbbells. You can 807 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: do it at the gym if you want. You know, 808 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: you can stream it and I take you through. And 809 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: I'm telling you the results that people are having just 810 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: after thirty days, not necessarily not weight loss, like body recomposition, 811 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: just seeing their body change because I always say, like 812 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 3: a pound of fat is this big and circumference a 813 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: pound of muscle is there? 814 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 4: Okay, so people are so focused on weight loss. 815 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, focused on fat loss and your body's going 816 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: to get smaller and stronger rather than focusing on losing weight, 817 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: and you're losing muscle too. That's why just doing cardio, 818 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 3: unless you really like it or you're a marathon runner 819 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: or something like that, is not really the thing that's 820 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: going to give you the max benefit, especially if you're 821 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: just a quote unquote regular person that's like, yo, you know, 822 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm a mom, I got to go to pick up 823 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: my kids, Like what. 824 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 4: Can I do to keep myself strong? 825 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 3: Fine? Forty five minutes a day lift and do some 826 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 3: cardio after and the combination will be great. 827 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: All right, well good, Well, I'm definitely going to dig deeper. 828 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to do this work out because I 829 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: am trying to be better and making sure that I 830 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: do some strength training because I know it's important for me. Yes, 831 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: and you know I always talk about nutrition with my 832 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 2: juice bar about to reopen and all of those things. 833 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: So incorporating all of this together, I think is the 834 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 2: most important thing. And I want to make sure it's 835 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. You know, we got to lead by example, 836 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: and it's January. I see a lot the gingin a lot. 837 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: Let's crowd it already, you know. But anything that you 838 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: can do at home is a win to me. 839 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easy, it's accessible, and zero boundaries of barriers 840 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: for you to actually get to the gym because you 841 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: can do it at home. 842 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: Because sometimes people. 843 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 2: Like people are watching you when you haven't been working out. 844 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: You're like, I want to go to the gym and 845 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: people laughing at me. 846 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: I want to make a point to nutrition because I 847 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 3: didn't develop a nutrition program with this, even though I 848 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: wanted to. But nutrition is majorly important for any kind 849 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 3: of body recomposition or body change, weight gain, weight loss, 850 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 3: weight maintenance. You just have to like roll a thumb, 851 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: get in the protein. Get the protein, and don't be 852 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 3: afraid of carbs. If that's the two things I can take. 853 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 4: So people, you know you got to do carbs tonight. 854 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: Why like if you actually do strain training tomorrow, you're 855 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 3: gonna burn. Like that's what's burning when you're lifting the carbs. 856 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: And good there's good sugar too. I always tell people 857 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: that too, like. 858 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: Good sugar fruit. 859 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, fruits. 860 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: You know my favorite thing in the morning. 861 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: With my oat meal. 862 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: Okay, see there you have it. 863 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: Well, I have a trick. I have a quick hack 864 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: okay with blueberries. So have you ever been to the 865 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 3: carnival and you got like a candy apple? 866 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: I love candy. 867 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: So get some blueberries, a bowl of blueberries if you 868 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: want to snack, and then you get some honey and 869 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 3: you just kind of drizzle it over frozen blueberries. Okay, 870 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: let us sit there for like sixty seconds, and when 871 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 3: you eat the blueberries, it tastes like candied apples, like 872 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 3: candy blueberries because the honey gets hard and it's so good. 873 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 4: You won't even crave ice cream. 874 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: All right, well, look, I feel like you need to 875 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 2: put this nutrition program. 876 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: Together to trust and believe. 877 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be looking for it and trust and believe. 878 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 2: Also the podcast, you guys make sure. 879 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but my podcast name is changing to Tears for Transformation, 880 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: and it's I'm reshooting it and relaunching it in just 881 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 3: about a few months. 882 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: See look at us. We covered all types of things. 883 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. 884 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad we were able to dig deeper today 885 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: with you also, by the way, and definitely you got 886 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 2: to come back when I start doing the workout too, 887 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: I'll let you know so we can see what my 888 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 2: transformation is looking like. All right, well, thank you so much, 889 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: you guys. And how can people follow you and find you? 890 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you can follow me. 891 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: If you want to follow me on for fitness, you 892 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: can follow me on Instant Graham and Facebook s h 893 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 3: A U n T. If you want to follow me 894 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 3: for fun, you can follow me on TikTok. If you 895 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: want to follow me for ratchetness, follow me on x 896 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 3: all of this at shawnte And if you. 897 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: Want, yes, she follows me in a real place. 898 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: You get the fitness, the fun and the ratchetness and 899 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: a few cheeks here and there. But if you want 900 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 3: to get dig deeper, go to dig deeper nation dot com. 901 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you so much. It was really 902 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: a pleasure. I appreciate you. 903 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 4: It was my pleasure to thank you. 904 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: It's way up 905 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: WAM