WEBVTT - Dirty Rush: Shocking Sorority Rush Behavior 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:06.160 your hosts me Gia. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:08.520 Jude, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.680 Hey guys, it's Ga jud Dice and welcome back to 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:16.160 another week of Dirty Rush. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:17.680 This week, I have a. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.200 Very fun celebrity guest, Mercedes North, up from The Bachelor. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.880 So going into this episode, we kind of wanted to 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.400 bring in celebrities to get their perspective on sorority life, 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.560 but our producers have another idea for us. So we're 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.360 having a total switch up on this episode. And apparently 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.640 it's a topic that we need to talk about. I 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.920 don't know the topic, so let's find out. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:43.640 So. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.680 I just learned about something last night about sorority rush 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.640 that literally has me in shock. So I learned it 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.920 from my niece, who is I'm fifty one, so she 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:58.640 is twenty, so she is almost twenty. She's significantly younger. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.760 She told me this was a thing, and I told 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.240 her she was lying. I said, this is not a thing, this. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:04.920 Is not real. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:06.880 I did not want you guys to know what it 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.600 was because I want to find out genuine reactions. If 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.039 this is now something that goes on in sorority rush. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.559 I heard it has two different names. It is called 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:21.759 throwing around or dead fishing, So I immediately said, what 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.360 are you talking about? And she said, basically, what happens 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.560 is if you're a middle house, because I don't think 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.960 this would happen at a top tier house. If you're 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.679 a middle house, girls that come in want to not 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:40.200 get invited back because they think they are beating the system, essentially, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.399 which people listening this is not work, Like, I'm convinced 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.480 this does not work, this is completely crazy. So they 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:53.400 go in and they intentionally are quiet, not maybe not 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:58.600 even nice, disinterested, so that that house does not invite 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.160 them back. Because I guess it's called dead fishing or 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.600 throwing the round. I guess that the theory for them 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.480 is they think they're beating the system so that if 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.160 they don't get invited back to these middle houses, they 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:11.160 will help them get the. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:11.839 Top ten house. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.920 So they kind of try to shit the bed and 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.600 not put any effort in to a house that essentially, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.400 in their mind they think it doesn't matter, so that 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.440 they'll eliminate those houses and automatically go to top tier. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:31.679 Correct knowing what I know, it seems absolutely insane. I've 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.840 never heard of anything that's crazy. This would never have 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:38.160 happened in my era because I just first of all, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.880 it's trying to game the system, which doesn't work right. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.320 But two it's so mean. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.640 I'm like, how can this be real? So that is 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:53.400 the topic. We have found people who either know about 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.360 this or who may even admit they did it, so 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.160 I would love for you guys to talk to them, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.120 and I just will say, I do not think this 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.560 happened in my era or even like ten years younger 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.760 than me, fifteen years than me. Well, this seems much 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.760 more something now and I'm like horrified by it. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.760 To be honest with you, I have never heard of 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.040 the term, but I feel like regardless, girls have might 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:25.280 have been subconsciously doing it, whether it wasn't a term, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:28.000 because I don't think I've never heard that term when 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.720 I was in when I was rushing, but I feel 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.919 like girls would subconsciously do that if they weren't interested 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.200 in those houses. They wouldn't put their efforts there because 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.560 they want to put their efforts into something else. So 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.400 I feel like, as well, maybe it's not a term 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.080 that I am aware of or that we are aware of, 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.320 but I feel like girls, but it'shavior, it's a behavior. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.080 Yeah, I think subconsciously is like a good word because 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.240 I feel like when we went through recruitment, or when 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.800 I went through like I definitely think there was like 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:58.160 some houses where I was like, I don't think we're 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.880 a match. But I never went in there being like 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.960 I'm gonna be rude or I'm gonna make them think. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.600 I'm like you know what I'm saying, Like I never 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.320 was always nice. I was always I would never you know, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.040 put them in a situation or myself. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.360 I think automatically when you kind of go into a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.480 house and you start that speed dating process, when you're 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.440 in that open house round going through all that, you 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.200 kind of know who you click with and who you 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.599 don't click with. But the problem is I was still 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.200 nice to everybody. I was still myself to everybody, And Okay, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.640 maybe I didn't connect with those girls, but maybe those 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:31.640 girls connected with me. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.400 So you still want to make a good impression. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.920 And because no matter what everyone's talking during the recruitment process, 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.600 so you still want to make a good impression and 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.760 represent yourself how you want your reputation to be. Because 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.880 if you go into a sorority and you're a. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.800 Part for me kind of blowing my mind on it. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.279 And again, nobody unless you work for Panelinic, I guess, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.760 really knows exactly how this computer system algorithm works. But 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.000 the way I understand it is And when I went 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.000 through Rush, it was like, go to these houses, be 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.960 be yourself, but be polite and nice and chatty and 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.839 kind like you would at any house. And if you 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.120 get invited back to every house, then you pick meaning 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.440 we called them the rushie. So the rushie if they 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.560 get invited back to every house, really the advantage is 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.200 to them, they're gonna narrow down and get the houses 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.960 they want. So the thing that's like very befuddling to me, 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.960 and I think some of some people will be able 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.680 to explain it, is how would this possibly work? But 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:40.000 I guess in people's minds they're trying to game the system, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.040 and I just stand by going gaming the system in 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.400 Rush really doesn't work. And I thought it was interesting 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.119 because I had a couple people say to me, oh, yes, 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:50.880 so and so did that, but she didn't end up 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.919 with a house. And it's like exactly, so look for 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:00.880 people listening this whole Rush process is so fascinating because 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.000 it's not just hey, how are you, what's your major, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.480 let's be friends. There's all this strategy and coaches and 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.479 all these things that have changed the game so much 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.960 so I think I wanted to sort of go, let's 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.040 throw what we were going to do out and really 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.120 dig into this as these girls are in rush and 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.919 I'm sorry, but if you're listening, don't do this. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.120 Yeah, do not do this. It's totally bonkers. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.120 And like you were saying, if you really do put 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.560 your efforts in and all the houses want you back, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.159 take that as a compliment literally, But I also feel 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.920 like it's kind of a sense of entitlement. Clearly some 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.359 of these girls think that they're better, and when you 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.559 have that attitude, ninety percent of the time it doesn't 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:41.039 go your way. 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.520 I feel like it has changed so much, Like again, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.839 the coaches, like, that's crazy. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.800 I've never heard of that until this podcast. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.160 And I also feel like when you're hiring a coach 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.680 to get you into this top storty, they're making you. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.359 Someone that you're not. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.520 Here's that saying, so like you're going to get into 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.720 a sorty Yeah, you got into the top sorty that's amazing. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.000 You feel cool for like five seconds, but then you 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.480 look at this other stort and you're like, wait, those 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.440 are my people, Like, those are the people that I 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.600 would be like best friends for life with. Instead, I'm 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.600 in the sorority that I have nothing in common with, 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:12.960 like I don't agree with or not not agree with 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.280 their philanthropy, but like, I think I would match better 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.960 in this one. But it's because you weren't your true 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.240 ones self and you were doing all these things that 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.600 is not what the recruitment process should be. Like has 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:24.880 changed so much it's crazy. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.800 It has. If I hired a rush coach at Rutgers University, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.360 oh please, we would be canceled. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.600 That's crazy, And I think about okay, So I truly 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.680 thought this was made up. I literally said to my niece, No, 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.120 I think that the girl was just having a bad 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.760 day or she was shy, And my niece was like, no, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:52.600 it's intentional. So my thing is the poor Russier. I 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.000 don't forget what you guys call it. A potential new 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.320 member talks to the P and M talks to the 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:01.400 so we called him. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:02.360 The Russia or the Rushi. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.880 That poor girl who's talking to this girl who's a 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:10.200 dead fish must have felt horrible about themselves. And yes 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.960 they go and make sure that girl gets dropped, so 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.240 because it would be so awful. So anyway, I hope 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.280 we have people to really talk about this because this 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.520 is the kind of thing that does give Russia a 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.760 bad name. Whereas like, I love sorority life and I 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.840 love all of it, but this has me sort of horrified. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:29.320 Yeah. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.160 Well again it's that sense of like entitlement and thinking 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.040 who you are, and this is why people have such 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.000 a negative yeah you on sororities. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.240 I also feel like the social media that goes into 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.640 it now too has a big like I feel like 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.319 that's a reason on why it's so. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.200 Like I mean, you think of a typical stereo type 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:55.920 of sorority girl, blonde hair, skinny, like great fashion. I mean, 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.559 I think BAM has a fun, fun school, but I 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.360 think about BAMA, I don't. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.640 Yeah, I'm hearing, And again this will be interesting conversations 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.600 for this episode and others that some of those girls 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.839 doing the ootds and all that is actually hurting their 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.440 chances now that some schools are frowning upon that and 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.760 kind of aren't aren't really so into that, so it'll 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.280 be really interesting. But for me, what's been so shocking 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.640 is the change now at the core. I think, once 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.920 you're in the house and we'll we'll delve into this 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.160 in this series of pledging and initiation and date parties 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.320 and standards and all the things that go along with 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:40.040 rush and sorority life. But the rush process is so 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.360 different now and the pressure, the pressure on the girls 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.120 in the house and the pressure on the girls going 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:47.160 through it just when they're. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.080 So young, Like it's it should be fun, it should 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.400 be like recruitment. You're excited, you're going to college, You're 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.560 gonna be your best friends. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.240 Like, it should not be this intense and weird. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:09:58.920 It's getting weird. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:00.000 It's getting getting weird. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.840 It's in college you're supposed to find yourself and really 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:07.880 find who you are. And I mean, if you're trying 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.920 to paint this picture that you're not when you're joining 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.559 a sorority, how is that going to help. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.080 You find yourself? If anything, that's going to make you 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:13.840 more confused. 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.960 Yeah, so I think let's let's dig into this and 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:21.360 see if this is a real thing, because Yeah, it 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.040 actually shocked me. I was like, that cannot be real. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:42.160 Yeah, Hey, Katie, so is dead fishing or throwing around? 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:43.040 Is this a real thing? 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:44.320 So? 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:45.000 Yes? 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.800 At my school particularly, we call it dead fishing. I 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.199 know it's different everywhere, but I. 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.640 Just telling me where you go. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:54.920 I'm not going to tell you where I go, but 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.080 I will tell you sorority names and my experience dead 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.760 fishing part of the country. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.520 No, I'm not in the South. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:06.880 I'm actually in California. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.160 Oh okay, yes, And why did I think that rushing 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:12.920 wasn't that big in California? 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.640 I know, I definitely didn't think it would be that 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.760 big of a deal at my school, and sure enough 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:18.160 it was. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.360 Wow, Okay, I'm excited to hear about it. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:27.200 Yeah. So, basically, I knew all along that there were 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:32.040 two houses that I really liked, and on pref night, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.240 I had picked the two houses. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.800 I had had those two houses all. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:40.160 Along, and then when I got to opening my bid 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.080 or the app that we use that tells you which 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.600 houses you got back, I saw that I only had 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.800 one of those houses and the other house I had 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.560 was considered a bottom house, and I immediately freaked out 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.160 and didn't really know what to do. So I actually 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.360 had that bottom house as the first party, so I 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.840 had about ten minutes to get myself together and try 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:06.800 to not freak out. And this was when I walked 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.480 into the house and decided my best alternative was to 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:16.320 break the rules and talk about my boyfriend, which, yes, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.520 that's one of the main things we're not supposed to do. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.160 But okay, we can, I just have you. Can I 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:22.319 clarify something quick? 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:23.080 Mm hm? 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.240 So you you're in the final round? You were in 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.120 rough round Pugh round. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:30.520 Yes. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:31.480 So the day. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:37.520 Houses that you voted for were your top two yes, and. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.840 I got dropped from one of them, and then I 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.880 ended up with another house that I did not want? 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.640 Got it? And did you what house did you not 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.400 want tried? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.120 Delt was this house which is a not good strority 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.160 at my school at all? 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:53.920 I don't know. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.199 I mean, yeah, I guess I feel like Nationally tried 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.880 a pretty pretty good one, but it was bad at 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:01.400 your school. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.920 Yeah, and DJ and Kappa were the two houses I 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.400 had liked all along, and those were the two houses 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.200 I had picked the night before, but I got dropped 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:12.720 from Kappa. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:14.600 Okay, got it? 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:15.719 Yeah? 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.160 So you wint talking? 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.880 And then wait, I'm blanking because when you do your 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:26.560 voting system and you rank your houses. You if you 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.920 didn't pick tried out, how did that come up on 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:29.920 your cards then. 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.760 Because I don't think it really mattered, Like I didn't 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.680 necessarily drop them. I just ranked all of the houses 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.280 in the order of which I wanted them. 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.360 So your third house was maybe tried out, and then 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.120 you got dropped from your second, So then they bumped 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.320 your third house up. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.440 To your something along about those lines. But there's no 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.400 way tried out was even my third choice. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.520 Okay, So you were like very much against chidelle, like 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.040 you were like, I did not want to be a 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:58.840 part of that, okay, exactly. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:04.240 And at my they strongly encourage us to not suicide bid. Yeah, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.720 and they tell the freshman that if you suicide bid, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.559 you will end up on the bottom of the house 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.040 that you did picks list. So I had talked to 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.000 my Roquai and she said, you absolutely can't suicide bid, 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.200 like that would not be a smart decision. So I 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.200 was like, all right, then I need to figure out 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.760 a way to not be invited back to this house 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.880 tomorrow on mid day because at my school, especially this 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:33.160 that specific year, if you made it to pref night 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.840 with two houses, then you were guaranteed a bid from 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.920 one of them. So basically, in my head, in the 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.880 ten minutes I had to show up the tri Dee, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.720 I thought my best alternative was to make them drop me. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:50.920 So I get paired with this. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.080 Girl who was so sweet, and I was crying, and 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.280 I think she will probably thought I was crying because 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.320 I had found my home, but no, I was crying 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.560 because I really did want to be there and it 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.080 had just been such a long and emotional week and 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.240 I was like okay, Like she asked me what I 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.360 did this summer or what I'm looking forward to, something 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.400 along those lines, and I said, I'm so excited because 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.280 I'm gonna go visit my boyfriend at the Naple Academy. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.840 And I thought this was like a sly way to 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.880 bring up my boyfriend and it was like relevant to 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.840 the conversation, but like I still knew I wasn't supposed 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:24.440 to be doing that. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.640 But then by pref rown though too, because you've already 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.800 made it so far. Yeah, I feel like the conversations 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.120 start to get a little more personal. You do break 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.160 the rules a little bit, and it's kind of okay 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.920 totally because you're also sitting there having an hour long 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.280 conversation with this person. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:49.040 Totally yeah, but being on the other end of it, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.000 I didn't know that. It was like now, okay, So 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.840 I'm thinking like, okay, this is great, Like I'm gonna 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.160 end up getting dropped from this house. And sure enough, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.640 right as I mentioned naval academy, this girl who I'm 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.000 talking to, who's prepping me, immediately freaks out and is like, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.520 oh my gosh, I have always wanted to go to 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.560 the Naval Academy. And then she goes on and on 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.600 about how she applied there and she didn't get in, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.840 but she's going to enlist after college or do ROTC. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:24.720 I immediately start crying more. Yes, I'm so overwhelmed, and wow. 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:29.360 We're connecting now this I am getting this house exactly. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.400 My plan completely backfired. 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:34.600 And she's just like it's. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.400 Okay, this will be your home too. Like she's just 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.200 feeling really bonded to me in this moment, and I 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:45.040 am losing it and I don't know what I'm supposed 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:49.680 to do from there, but luckily it ended up working 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.080 out for me. I tried to be dry with the 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.640 girl for the rest of the night, and be show 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:00.000 that I wasn't super interested, but while still being respectful 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.000 because I don't have it in me to actually be 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.360 blatantly rude. And I also know now that I could 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.600 have said I don't see myself here, because being on 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.240 the other end of it, I know that that's a 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.800 conversation that girls have while going through the process, and 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.800 in hindsight, I should have said that instead of being 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.960 uninterested and breaking the roles. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.600 But luckily, what did you do in the end for 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.080 when you want to go vote? 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.479 So luckily I had that house is my first party, 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.480 and then I had a break because there were two 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.960 parties that I didn't have, And then I had the 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:39.280 last party at my current house, which is DG, and 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.000 I got to DG and I saw the girl I 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.359 had talked to the day before who I loved and 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.240 bonded with, and actually we were from the same hometown. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.919 I didn't know her super well because she was a 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.840 senior and I obviously was a freshman. But I saw 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:59.200 her and immediately started crying and told her everything, which 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.000 once again again could have backfired. But thankfully she was 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.240 a super sweet girl. And my mom was also a 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.320 DIJI in this house, like at my school. So she 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.200 had a great letter from my mom that she read me. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.080 Well, you and you had legacy at that point. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.480 Yes, so it was pretty clear that I was going 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.560 to be safe. It was just the idea of what 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.159 if they don't like me and I have to sign 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.240 this contract at the end of the night, saying that 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:32.399 I will stick by either house, because that's how they 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.200 do it at my school. If you don't suicide bid 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.879 and then you're not able to be a part of 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:41.720 COB or continuous open bidding that year, you have to 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:47.199 wait until recruitment the following year. So I was terrified, 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.240 but thankfully it all ended up working out. I didn't 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.760 end up suicide bidding, which I think was the smart 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.639 decision because I totally could have ended up without a house. 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:04.480 Who knows, But it ended up working out and I 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.520 could not be happier. But dead fishing is definitely a thing, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.159 and I've definitely experienced it being on the other side, 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.359 and it's not a good position to be in on 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:14.960 either end. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.640 Yeah, I mean, thank you for telling us your story, 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.360 and I'm really happy that you are in DG now 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.040 and you've found your home. But I mean, you also 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.280 realize now that maybe you should have just been honest 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.800 and you should have just told them you didn't see 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.600 yourself here, and it's great that you have that self 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:41.200 reflection to kind of just see that. And I don't 0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:43.479 think you had the worst story she did. She did 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.879 end up connecting with you and really loving you. So 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.639 I mean, I'm happy it all worked out, and you know, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.040 sometimes honesty is the best answer. 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.120 Yeah, thank you so much. 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.600 I think I definitely learned a lot from that process 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.760 and definitely learned even more being on the other end 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.960 of but I'm really happy about the way things turned out. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.639 Yeah, no, same, Well, thanks Katie, thanks so much for 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:12.040 coming on. Thank you, hey, Jane, and welcome to Dirty Rush. 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.399 So let's get into it is throwing around real? 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:17.000 Yes it is? 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.399 Okay, Yeah, it's me. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:26.000 Well, when someone throws around, they don't particularly want to 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:31.000 return to that chapter, and they purposefully act less interested 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.520 in the girls they're talking to, and they act being 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.440 on purpose so the chapter won't ask them back in 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:40.680 the next round, and they can have a better chance 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:45.000