1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: All right, this is Derwin James and you listen to 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: the Charges Podcast Network. What's up, guys, Welcome to a 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: virtual zoom Beat writer's round table. Chris Avery, Haleyo Wood, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Popper of The Athletic, Jason Herschelore and Sports Illustrated, 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Joe Manzano Southern California News Group. And I think we're 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: expecting one. Jeff Miller, La, time's gonna pop in probably 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: at any minute. Guys, it's been a strange couple of weeks. 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: I hope everybody's staying safe, staying at home. If you're 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: listening to this, let's just start there. How have these 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: last two weeks been for you guys? As folks who've 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: covered a number of different sports, a number of different teams. 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: This is kind of the new normal now, Daniel, Yeah, 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: it's obviously been a little weird, erie scary. You know. 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a difficult time for everyone as as we 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: start to enter these unprecedented waters. As far as like 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: the NFL hasn't really changed. It's been sort of business 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: as usual. Obviously, it's the off season. And while there's 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: been in some handcups as far as getting physicals done 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. For the writers, it's been 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: sort of normal. For other sports, it's been weird. I know, 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Idea athletic we have, you know, baseball writers that are 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: missing the start of the season. Opening day was supposed 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: to yesterday, Basketball obviously stopped, and you know, down the 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: home stretch of the season, so that, you know, it's 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: been a little bit of a whirlwind trying to figure 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: out for those guys and women, you know, what they're 27 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna write, what they're going to talk about. Um, But 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: we've been doing our best and more importantly just looking 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: out for our loved ones and trying to stay in 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: contact with everybody, stay stays, you know, stay home and 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: do the social distancing policies to the best of our 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: abilities to prevent the spread of this thing. Yeah, what 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: about you, Jason, Yeah, I mean a lot of what 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Popper said is true for our sport in particular. While 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: this is a busy time, it's a time that we 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: usually spend at home covering things remotely, talking to agents, 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: talking to team contacts. So that part of it really 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: hasn't changed all that much. It's everything outside of that, 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, not leaving your apartment very much other than 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: to go to the grocery store. But everyone here, I'm 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: sure he's dealing with some version of that right now, Gil, 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure you get that, go all that. Yeah, same 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: thing for me. It's kind of weird because right maybe, 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: right now we would be meeting in person and colose 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: to Mason to get to meet Chris Harris, I'm involve 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Joseph and all those guys trade turn or all the 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: new guys, and you know we're here talking to video chats. 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: That's kind of weird. But for the most part, we've 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: been working from home. But kin'd been tough, kind of 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: being away from your family, your loved one. So you 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: gotta do your part. You gotta stay home. But so 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: far has been okay. And by the way, we gotta 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: give Gil a happy birthday shout out, Happy Thursday Thursday birthday. Gil. Yeah, 54 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: thank you for yeah, trying to stay twenty one forever, 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: but that's not the case. So I am thirty one now. Yeah. 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: You know, Haley, Haley, we have talked over the last 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think free agency has provided a 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: little bit of rescpe for fans in terms of just 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: getting something to be excited about. For the upcoming season 60 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: and let's just get right into free agency. Um, right now, 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: go Jeff Miller. Is he here? Jeff Miller? I think 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: is connecting. Yeah, he'll be in in like a second. 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, he may look so happy to 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: see us, Jeff, Jeff, what's up? Jeff? Hey, Hailey? What's upbody? 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: The Harris? Chris? What's going on? Guys? Good? We we've 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: already started. We're three minutes into this thing. Of course 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: we did. You know the reality of that is, I'm 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. Yeah, I just like making dramatic appearances, 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: and so that's what I'm not. That's all this is. Jeff, 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: You've been a very decorated sports writer over the years. 71 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: We were just talking about the last two weeks and 72 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: just how kind of erie it's been for for everybody 73 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: having to stay at home. Have you ever, I guess, 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: can you really compare this to anything you've covered before? Yeah, 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean nine to eleven after that. You know, we 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: all went through a period there there There was wasn't much. 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't nearly as long as this is going to be. 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: But really that's the only thing other than that, you know, 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: in our in our lifetimes and in the lifetimes of 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: these leagues, not just the NFL but Major League Baseball, 81 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: and nobody's really been through anything like this. So it's um, 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a day to day existence, and we 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: wake up every day and try to figure out how 84 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: to get through this day, and then we get up 85 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: the next day and do it again. That's right, that's right, Haley. 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I want to get your overall reactions to what the 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Chargers have done a free agency before we get into 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: the individual guys that the team has agreed to terms with. 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Your thoughts are what Tom and company have done to 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: really kind of solidify this roster. You know, this is 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: a team I think I'm going into my seventh season now, 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and if you follow the Chargers and you hear from 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Chargers fans on Twitter, it's what are they going to 94 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: do in free agency? Will they do anything? And I 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: think to have five guys initially off the bat, that's 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: pretty bold. And I think you can see sort of 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: positions in certain parts of positions I guess sort of 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: being remade in the image of free agency and adding 99 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: to the guys that they already have. I mean, I 100 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: know you said we won't go into new guys right now, 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: but look at just the right side of the offensive line, 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: and we can, I guess, maybe sort of segue there 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: by adding Trey Turner, by adding Brian Bouloga. Literally that's 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you know. It was a roller coaster for the Chargers 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: over the last year for sure, with injuries happening, young 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: players needing to step up. You add a guy like 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: James Campin, who spent over a decade with the Green 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: Bay Packers, played for the Packers, ended up coaching with 109 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: Cleveland last year, and now coming here and sort of 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe remaking that line in his image. Jason, I'll throw 111 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: to you because I know you've had some experience covering 112 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: the Packers, but we've obviously known about Trey Turner. But 113 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: adding Brian Bouloga, what will he add to this Charger's 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: offensive line. Well, besides you securing right tackle presue movie tackle, 115 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: we should say it's also about the buy in with 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: James camp And I think he made a very good 117 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: point of that because Campin has been one of the 118 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: better offensive line coaches in the NFL for a while 119 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and one of the things that he does that is 120 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: so unique amongst offensive line coaches is he doesn't decide 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: there's one way want all my offensive linemen to block 122 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: and make everybody conform to that. He allows his offensive 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: linemen to have a lot more freedom. Like in Green Bay, 124 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: Josh Sitton would just take several more steps back than 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: a traditional offensive guard would and just basically catch pass 126 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: rushers coming into him. But because of his anchor he 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: could do that with David Bakari and bolog there. He 128 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: also let them use their hands a little more freely 129 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: than you see with offensive linemen. Some of them would 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: go to the shoulders, some of them would go inside. 131 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: They would switch it up, and that's the kind of 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: thing that you're going to see with the Chargers this year. 133 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's not something that's going to pop when 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: you're watching the game on the broadcast, but it's really 135 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: going to free up these offensive linemen to do what 136 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: they are most comfortable with and having blog they're really 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: just to you kind of communicate that to the other 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: guys that I think is going to be of great 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: value to Los Angeles. Yeah. Bulaga thirty one years old, 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: one hundred eleven starts in ten seasons, and next to him, 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Trade Turner entered the league when he was twenty years old. 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Five Pro Bowls in six seasons. Gil, your reaction to 143 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Trade Turner and just kind of piggyback of what Hailey saying, 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the right side of this offensive line instantly remade down. Yeah. 145 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I know the games haven't been played yet, but on paper, 146 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: it might be the best right side to an offensive 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: line in the NFL. Trade Turner. Turner's only twenty six 148 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: years old. He as you mentioned, five consecutive Pro Bowls 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: at right guard, buying Bulaga. I think he's been starting 150 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: for ten years, and I think he started in his 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: entire career, So that tells you how much experience have 152 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: on the right side. But yeah, it's it's a brand 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: new right side. I'm still wonder about the other side, 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: but that right side is very good. And where's a quarterback, 155 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. I'm still gonna appreciate that side. Jeff, 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: what do you think of trade Turner? And we had 157 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: them on the phone for a few minutes last week, 158 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: But first off, Gil, are you rocking just a solo stack? Yeah? Yeah, 159 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I started watching Parks and Ranks. You know I'm watching 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: and I want to try it out. I love it. 161 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I love it. Uh yeah, you know. Uh. One thing 162 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I want to say about the offensive line. Um, I 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: think it's clear. You know, we asked all all of 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: us you know, on this on this call, here, on 165 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: this on this inner, this meeting whatever we call these things. 166 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: Well it's a zoom the uh. We all uh, we 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: all asked questions all seas about the offensive line. And 168 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: because we knew, everyone knew they weren't you know, they 169 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they were atrocious last year, but they 170 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: were very inconsistent and I think that really played into 171 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: why Philip struggled. And now we're seeing what the Chargers 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: are doing. They've done a ton on their offensive line 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: and there and they're not done. I think they're still 174 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna probably add another guy or two. And I think 175 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: one thing I want to say is we asked a 176 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: million different ways. We asked Philip about this, a million 177 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: different ways. He never blamed the offensive line, right, He 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: always talked about they want to do well, they worked hard, 179 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, and and the fact that they care so 180 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: much is really important. Well, obviously everyone in that room 181 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: and that building rather knew that that was that was 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: a shortcoming, clearly shortcoming. And now John Falesco has made 183 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: a couple of big moves I think to shore that up, 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, bringing in a new coach, all that stuff. 185 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: They're addressing what you know, with their moves, they're addressing 186 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: what they wouldn't tell us. You know, what we all 187 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of knew is that the offensive line needed help 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and they needed to be needed to be bolstered, and 189 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: they appear to have done that. I'm not going to 190 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: stand here and pretend like I know a lot about 191 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: offensive line play. You know, you look at the two 192 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: guys they brought in. Everyone speaks highly of them, so 193 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: there's no question they've upgraded. And you know, they they 194 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: they seem like offensive line type. So I've heard a 195 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: couple interviews of both of them. We had turned around 196 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: the call, and you know, they're very offensive line type 197 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: type guys. You know, they not it's all about the 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: team and fitting in and doing your part. And so 199 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: I think it's uh, I think it's their steps forward, 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's worth acknowledging that that that 201 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Chargers did a good job last year 202 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: and not throwing these guys under the bus and and 203 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: just you know and kind of trashing you know, guys 204 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: who were trying hard but just just weren't in a 205 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: position to to give the protection and open the holes 206 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: that this team needed. Haley, I want to let you 207 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: t up Chris Harris Junior in a second, but before 208 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: we do that, popper real quick. The offensive line with 209 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: James camp and coming in some of these young guys, right, 210 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: Trent Scott, Trey Pipkins. Um you hope for Slamp can 211 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: come back from injury and contribute. Scott Quisenberry came in 212 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: from Mike Pouncey. What do you think Camping's impact is 213 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: going to be on the guys who are court on 214 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: the roster. We talked about that left side, but obviously 215 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: when you draft a guy like Trey Pipkins in the 216 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: third round, you're hoping he's going to become an eventual 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: started in the NFL. Well, that's really been the biggest 218 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: issue with with you know, the offensive lineman that Tom 219 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Telesco's draft. It's not like he hasn't invested draft capital 220 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: in offensive lineman. He's done it frequently. The problem is 221 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: that these guys haven't developed to the point where you'd 222 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: expect him to. And I think that was the driving 223 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: force behind going out and hiring a guy like James 224 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: Campon who has a proven track record of turning not 225 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: just early round picks, but late round picks into successful 226 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman. You know, that's the interesting thing with 227 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the left side. It's like, you know, everyone inside the 228 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: building loves straight Pipkins. You know, they like what he 229 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: showed when he was in games last season, even though 230 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: they didn't want him in games. They feel like he 231 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: can develop into a starting left tackle. So does it 232 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: make sense to sign a potential left tackle to a 233 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: long term deal? Does it make sense to draft another 234 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: left tackle when you feel like you have one in 235 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: the building that can develop into that. The problem is 236 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: you need to have competition there and you need to 237 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: have a backup plan in case Tray Pipkins doesn't progress 238 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: the way you want him too. And that's why, and 239 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I echo what everyone else has said here. You know 240 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: you expect even another move. But one last thing on 241 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line in general, to Lasco. Tom Tlasco said 242 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: at the combine that this was a priority. Yeah, and 243 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: he put his money where his mouth is. Literally, he 244 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: went out, he made deals, he signed players, he traded 245 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: for players, and he's revamped his offensive line, and like 246 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Jeff said, you know, like they wouldn't outwardly say that 247 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line was bad, but I think the moves 248 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: indicated that's what they thought of the group, and they 249 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: went out and they did something about it, you know, significantly. 250 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I'd like to throw one more pointing on that. So 251 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: obviously they traded Russell Okung, their left tackle for the 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: last few years. If you look at the cap hit 253 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: he was going to have for the Chargers this season, 254 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: and you look at the cap hits from trade or 255 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: four trade Turner and for Brian Bulaga, it's pretty close 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: a dollar for dollars. So you know, Russell Okung extremely talented. 257 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: They are going to miss him. But if you can 258 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: turn that cap space into two high quality offensive linemen, 259 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a very strong move by the general manager. Absolutely. 260 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: As we set up top five total free agent players 261 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: that this team has either signed or agreed to terms 262 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: with at this point. Two on offense so far, three 263 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: on defense, we'll talk about Chris Harris Junior now going 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: from the No Fly Zone to the jack Boys. He's 265 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: obviously extremely familiar with this Chargers team, just given his 266 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: eight years he spent with the Denver Broncos and playing 267 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: each other and all of that there. But whoever wants 268 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: to take this just how do you overall see him 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: fitting in in this Charger secondary? I can take it away. Yeah, 270 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: So honestly this is the most sorry to jump in. 271 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: But I'd have some thoughts on very unlikely, right, so unlikely? Yeah, 272 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: this is the most surprising move for me, for agent, 273 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: because Chris Harris, despite playing outside last year, is at 274 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: his best when he's defending the slot. That's where he's 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: made a name for himself, that's where he earned his 276 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: All Pro and that's where he wants to play and 277 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: where he should be playing. Frankly, the weird part is 278 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers already have a really good slot corner on 279 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: the roster and Desmond King a former All Pro slot defender. 280 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: So the question is what happens now. Does Chris Harris 281 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 1: play outside, does he play inside and Desmond King moves 282 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: to a different role. It seems, based on what Chris 283 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: Harris has said in various interviews, that he's expecting to 284 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: play in the slot, which means Desmond King is going 285 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: to move to a different position. Both safety spots are 286 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: pretty much locked up, you know, Desnmy King has the 287 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: ability to play safety, but Ray sean that the coaches 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: love him and think that he's the starting free safety 289 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: of the future. Obviously, Drwin's at strong safety. So where 290 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: exactly does Desmond fit in here? You know, the idea 291 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: I have is that Adrian Phillips has gone. He was 292 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: playing that six defensive back role and dime packages, and 293 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Desmond King is a similar type player, tackles as well, 294 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: hits hard, has that kind of physicality to play that position. 295 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: Is that where he fits him? The only question with that, 296 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: of course, is that that dime package defensive back doesn't 297 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: play a ton of snaps. So you're looking at maybe 298 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Desmond King going from playing forty to fifty snaps a 299 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: game down to fifteen to twenty snaps the game. Is 300 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: that how guts Bradley wants to do it. It's really 301 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see how it works out and where everyone's playing. Um. 302 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, in my mind, it would make a lot 303 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: of sense to have Chris Harris to play outside, played 304 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Desmond King in the slot, and that way you upgraded 305 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: all your positions, because in my opinion, Chris Harris would 306 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: be an upgrade from from Michael Davis. But it's going 307 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: to be fascinating to see how that works out. I 308 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: think one benefit to him coming in is the fact 309 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: that he's reunited with Ron Milis, Chargers defensive backs coach, 310 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: who was his DBS coach in Denver his first two 311 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: years in the league. So if there's anyone who has 312 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: a good idea as to where he fits in, it's 313 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: coach Milo. But Jeff similar to bolog ast Hie with 314 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: James Camping. Just how beneficial is that to have that 315 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: familiarity there. Well, you see it all the time in 316 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: the NFL, right, I mean you see it in other 317 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: sports too, but this this league especially, you you know, 318 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: as soon as you know, as soon as Camping came 319 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: on board, how long was it after that where people 320 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: started talking about bolog coming joining the Chargers. I mean 321 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: it's such a natural tie. And you know, this sport especially, 322 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: we always hear about trust and about you know, having 323 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: that that familiarity. I mean, that's why I think Anthony 324 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: Lynn is so comfortable with the Tyrod Taylor, the idea 325 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: of Tyrod Taylor, while some people aren't comfortable with that idea. Uh, 326 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, Anthony lenn is very comfortable with it because 327 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: he knows Tyrod, and Tyrod started for him before, so 328 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: he knows exactly what he's getting, exactly what it's going 329 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: to look like. So that all that those those ties 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: are very important. And I mean, I thought it was interesting. 331 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Harris has been in the league for a 332 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: while now and and that was one of the things 333 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: he mentioned and some of these interviews that Pop talked 334 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: about where he mentions that he's going back to his 335 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: original you know, dbat coach, which is interesting him. He's 336 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: been in the league a long time, accomplished a lot, 337 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: and yet he still remembers, you know who one of 338 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: his coaches from when he first got in the league. 339 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: So just that alone tells you how important that is. 340 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: Gil and Jason, I want to ask you guys about 341 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: the versatility in the secondary and the fact that you're 342 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: in a division with the Kansas City Chiefs and obviously 343 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos are loading of a little bit offensively. You know, 344 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders are probably going to do the same. We 345 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: talk about offensively trying to you know, outscore a team 346 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, but how about trying to neutralize their offense. 347 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: And they have a lot of pieces now and it 348 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: may look different week to week based on what Popper 349 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: was talking about. When you have a guy like Desmond 350 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: King who could probably play safety in the slide, Chris 351 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: Harris can play outside, inside, and then you have Derwin 352 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: James who could play essentially anywhere. So when you talk 353 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: about a secondary one of the best in the league, 354 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Chargers are building towards that. Yeah, it's almost a sorry, 355 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: he'll go ahead, Oh okay, but it is starting to 356 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: look like almost like a positionless basketball team in terms 357 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: of that that secondary. And it's not even just what 358 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Popper said with Desmond King being able to move around, 359 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: it's also Derwin James can play almost literally anywhere, and 360 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: we saw him do that last season. You know, when 361 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: he came back from his injury, they were lining him 362 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: up almost like an edge rusher as a linebacker. So 363 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: if Gus Bradley really wants to get creative, and he 364 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: has the tools now to do so, he can even 365 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: just move during James down, play more linebacker and then 366 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: free up some of those spots in the secondary for 367 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: all that excess talent. And this way you do fill 368 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: some holes closer to the line of scrimmage while still 369 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: being able to use all of your talented players in 370 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: the back four or five. That was an amazing analogy. 371 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: The position was basketball team. That's perfect analogy for the 372 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: secondary is going to be. Seriously, that was awesome. Compliment 373 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: from Popper does not happen very often. Wow, take it. 374 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to top that now. Yeah, But Derwyn James, 375 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: What can I say after that? I don't know, but 376 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: Derwin James could do everything. I could say that there 377 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: were James with a guy you didn't really have there 378 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: for the start of the year, and you bring them 379 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: back with Chris Harris. I know you don't have Adrian 380 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: Phillips there, but I think Chris Harris and Desmond King 381 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: could do a lot of what Derwyn James could do. 382 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: But I forgot I was going to say, because Jason 383 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: to everything I wanted to say something. Move on. I'm sorry, Gil, 384 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: don't forget about Nader. There you go. I have another 385 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: we haven't even seen. You know, we've seen what he 386 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: could do in one preseason game. If he comes back 387 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: and does some stuff of it, that secondary is really good. 388 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think Pop was right. I don't 389 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: know if any of us, seriously, did anybody see the 390 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: Chris Harris thing coming. I didn't. I thought they would 391 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: sign an outside corner like I thought they thought they 392 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: would go after maybe Trey Waynes or Ronald Darby or 393 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: somebody like that, just to compete outside. I did not 394 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: see them splurging on the best slot corner and they 395 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: got a good deal. Yeah, so we're seeing a theme 396 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: with guys like you Camping Bulaga, Milo, Chris Harris, and 397 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: just a couple of fact that Chris Harris is a 398 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion of four ball pro and he knows 399 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: this division from a quarterback perspective better than anybody. Yeah. 400 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Well that's the point you make, Chris. That's one hundred 401 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: percent in the minds of all these guys, whether it's 402 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: Tom tleasco Anthony Lynn, the coaching staff, Ron Milis, Gus Bradley. 403 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they're all thinking about how do you stop 404 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's how it was what everyone's thinking about 405 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: in the league, that this is the team to beat 406 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: and you're playing him twice a year, how do you 407 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: beat them? And in their mind, having as many talented 408 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: defensive backs on your roster as possible as a way 409 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: to get there. And it makes a lot of sense 410 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: because he can do a lot of different things. You 411 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: need tackling and each speed and the way you do 412 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: that as you put defensive backs in the field, you 413 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: could tackle Chris Harrits fits that profile perfectly, which is 414 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: why the signing makes sense when you put it in 415 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: the context of playing the sheets and you have a 416 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: pass rush like Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram and another 417 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: guy Lindval Joseph Haley, I know you spoke to Corty 418 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Cronin of NFL Nation Minnesota Vikings reporter. What did she 419 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: have to say about Linville. She had just said that basically, 420 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: he's best suited at the nose tackle position. And I 421 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: think this signing makes sense, or or bringing him on 422 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: makes sense when you lose a guy like Brandon Mebain. 423 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: But it reminds me in a way though of in 424 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when to LESCo brought me Bain on, because 425 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: here's a guy who's spent ten seasons in the league already, 426 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: so he's got that veteran presence about him to sort 427 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: of come in. He's best suited at the nose tackle position. 428 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: He's a great compliment to the guys on the ends. 429 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: And I think in the sort of new reality that 430 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: we're in. I had asked Courtney about this in terms of, look, 431 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: you have guys again like Chris Harris and Brian Bolaga 432 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: who have familiarity with their coach. Is we don't know 433 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: at this point what's happening with the off season program. 434 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: But when you bring in a guy who's had a 435 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: decade of experience in this league navigating these waters and 436 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: knowing as a pro how to handle yourself in the 437 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: off season, let alone a very uncertain offseason, will be 438 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: beneficial to him because just again he's got that sort 439 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: of weir with all about him and Jeff, you brought 440 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: us a great point about kind of a red shirt 441 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: year for Adderley. How about Jerry Tillery He missed last 442 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: off season's program from a training camp and kind of 443 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: got a later start, almost liking it to Mike Williams 444 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: his rookie year missing all of the off season. When 445 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: you have a rotation now with Tillery, who you expect 446 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: to make a jump justin Jones, and now you add 447 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: a veteran like Joseph, that's a nice little rotation to 448 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: start out twenty twenty. Yeah, they you know this is 449 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: a one thing. That's the situation where right now, this 450 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: new reality is this off season program was going to 451 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: be a huge artillery. I don't think there's any question 452 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: about that because he missed so much of last year, 453 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: and so if this gets pushed back and he's not 454 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: able to, uh he's not around the team, he's not 455 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: able to do the some of the stuff that that 456 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: that they want, or it could you know, it could 457 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: conceivably hold him back some more. But uh, you'd expect 458 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: him to take a step forward, and these guys really 459 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: need him to take a step forward. And also draft 460 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: pick last year, court Has Broughton. I mean, we'll go, 461 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: we'll get to see if you know some of him. 462 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: We obviously he had issues last year with Mono, right 463 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, like I had that right, Yeah, 464 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: he was the one that I gotta right, Jaffe, you 465 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: gotta rank you. So he we lost him for so 466 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: long or the Chargers lost him for so long. So uh, 467 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: you know he'll come back. And those are guys that 468 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: again they would benefit from this offseason program. And where 469 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: we're at now and what this offseason program is gonna 470 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: eventually look like it it could continue to kind of 471 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: hold those guys back, So that's something to watch him. 472 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: That's something you know, certainly in Hillary's case, the first 473 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: round pick, we're gonna be all of us will be 474 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: watching really closely. One the Chargers eventually get dug it 475 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: back together and are doing team activities whenever that is Jason, 476 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: how important do you think it was to replace a 477 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: guy like Brandon Mebane who was a captain with another 478 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: veteran like Hailey was alluding to guy who's been in 479 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: the league for ten years and it's been around the 480 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: block a little bit to help ankor that defensive line. 481 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: It's not even just Mebane. I mean, all the guys 482 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: who are playing substantial snaps at nose tackle are gone 483 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: right now, or you know, they might come back later 484 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: on a free agency. But at the moment, Lindvall jose 485 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: To absorbs all of that responsibility and it's good for 486 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the team. They play that position at such a high 487 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: level for a long time, and for the most part, 488 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't miss substantial time, which is very important because 489 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: in most defenses, including Gus Bradley's, having someone who can 490 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: really two gap it's it's not a two gap front primarily, 491 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: but the nose tackle is going to take on a 492 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: lot more having Lindvall Joseph there to really just take 493 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: on so much of that offensive line pressure. It's going 494 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: to be huge for the pass rush and it's it's 495 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: everything that everyone else has talked about paper. Yeah, I 496 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: just I wonder about the death Like I think the 497 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: Lindball Joseph signing was both important in one hundred percent 498 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: necessary because they didn't really have a nose a legitimate 499 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: nose tackle, prove a nose tackle on the roster before then. 500 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: I wonder what who's backing him up Um Cortes Broughten obviously, 501 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: as Jeff mentioned, is you know in that depth chart spot. 502 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: Now the question is do they bring a back a 503 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: guy like Damian Square who filled in that nose tackle 504 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: while Brandon me Van was out last year, played really 505 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: really well and can also back up Joey Bosa at 506 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: the big end spot the strong side of the defensive 507 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: end spot, or do they look to bring another young 508 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: guy in the draft. There are some nose tackles that 509 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: they could target on Day three to bring in some 510 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: competition with Cortez Broaden. I think the Lindball Joseph signing 511 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: made a lot of sense. M. My question now is, Okay, 512 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: what do you do as far as depth, and we'll 513 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: see what happens and how that plays out over the 514 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: next few weeks and obviously in the draft as well. 515 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Gil the linebacker position, Thomas Davis goes to Washington. Nick 516 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Vigil from Cincinnati comes in. Started sixteen games last Year's 517 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. We're gonna start to see a 518 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: new look linebacking corps, especially with the emergence of Drew 519 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: trank Will last year. But your thoughts on bringing Vigil in, Yeah, 520 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: the linebacker is still I think a need for them. 521 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: You mentioned Thomas Day was leaving, but I feel like 522 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: adding more depth there is going to help out a lot, 523 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna see a lot of Drew Trank 524 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Will not especially with Thomas Dave was going to Washington. 525 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: So I'm excaded to see that. I'm excaited to see 526 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: more Kaiser White. Denzel Perriman is gonna stay, but I 527 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: feel like they still need maybe one more playmaker or 528 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: adds atlamic position. But yeah, I didn't Bringing more guys 529 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: a better competition is always good, but I still feel 530 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: like they need at least one more athletic playmaker. Maybe 531 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: they can get them in the draft, but so far, 532 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: when you got Perriman there and Tranko from when it 533 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: is as a rookie, I think they're okay for now. Yeah, 534 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: that's where that high draffic the Chargers have could really 535 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: come in handy because there are actually a lot of 536 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: really out athletic linebackers in this class. So even if 537 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: they don't go for a player like that at six, 538 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: maybe someone like Clemsons, Isaiah Simmons, you know, maybe at 539 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: the back end of the first round they want to 540 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: trade in or in the second round. They really have 541 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: options there. So yeah, Gill's right, it is an area 542 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: of need right now, but they have plenty of resources 543 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: that they can to vote to that position before the 544 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: start of the regular season. Yeah, I think they. I 545 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: think they need to add one more competitor at that 546 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: will spot. That's as far as he's going to replace 547 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Thomas Davis. The question is what do they do with 548 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Drew Trankle because he was playing at the mic spot 549 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: at the middle linebacker Perryman was injured and he was 550 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: getting a lot of time there was playing really really 551 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: well at that spot. But now you bring you keep 552 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Perryman on the roster and you have Drew Trankle too. 553 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: You want to get them both on the field. And 554 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Lena said numerous times that they would be willing 555 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: to move Drew Tranquil to the will spot week side 556 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: linebacker spot and feel like he can play there. He 557 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: didn't get any snaps there in season. How will he 558 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: know acclimate to that spot over the course of training camp. 559 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: If it happens, is he the shoe in to start there? 560 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Will he be complete even competing with vigil And And 561 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: with that in mind, I think bringing in another like 562 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: like Gill and Jason said, bring in another athletic linebacker 563 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: to compete at that will spot, which is needs a 564 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: very athletic player and Gus Bradley scheme would make a 565 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Whether it's another player and bre agency 566 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: are more likely, you know, sort of in that day two, 567 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: day three spot in the draft. This is just a test, 568 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: this is a this is a complete silence. I'm just 569 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: seeing who's gonna It's like a it's like a draw, 570 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: it's like a Western h I could have kept going 571 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: things on backlog. I just said one thing, one thing 572 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: I want to say about the linebacking situation is. I'm 573 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: looking forward to the start of training camp so that 574 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Popper can explain to me again, how did identify who will, 575 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Sam and Mike? Who these guys are? Yeah, I still 576 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: for two seasons I've been covering the NFL, and I 577 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: still can't have a hard time figure out who who's 578 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: in what spot. So I'm looking forward to that part 579 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: of the training camp. I remember those days. Finally needs 580 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: jotting on a notepad, Gus Bradley scheme. It was great. 581 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I know. I can't wait till we're all together to 582 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: do that again. I want to I want to keep 583 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: this going weekly because I think this could be fun 584 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: for our fans and especially as we lead up to 585 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: the draft. Let's just end on this and then we'll 586 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: hopefully pick this up again next week. But off the field, 587 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: some new logo, new new marks for the Chargers. I 588 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: want to get some thoughts and we're gonna starts participating. 589 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: By the way, By the way, I'm I'm deficient here. 590 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: I got the old logo, we're waiting. We're waiting on 591 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: the new gear. Um, but I think it's a real 592 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: clean look and I love that Popper already has the 593 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: smiley faces in the background. Let's start with you, Daniel, 594 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: what do you think? I think it looks great. I mean, 595 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: let's be real. Everyone loves the powder blue, loves it. 596 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: It's my favorite uniform probably in sports, to be honest, 597 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: and I love seeing it on Sundays, and so it 598 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to pivot into that, to 599 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: lean into that. And it's what the fans love. It's 600 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: what you know, the rest of the legal loves, it's 601 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: what you know, all the fans of the NFL love. 602 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: They love seeing the powder blue. So it made a 603 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: lot of sense. And you know, the bowl is so iconic, 604 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: like there was no reason to do a full change 605 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: of the logo when you have a great logo already, 606 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: just fine tune it and leaning into the things that 607 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: everyone loved. So in that respect, I thought it was 608 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: a huge success. Yeah. The subtle it was just very subtle, 609 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: and I think it looks clean. What about you, Jason. 610 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: The best logos in sports are those that are simple 611 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: and distinctive, and not that the Chargers logo prior to 612 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty wasn't simple and distinctive, but it's even now simpler. 613 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: It's just the two colors, but it's stole the logo 614 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: that everybody knows. Everybody attaches that with the chargers. They 615 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: could not have done a better job in my opinion, Gil, 616 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: I think for me it is adding the Los Angeles part. 617 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: That that little bolt with the A at the bottom, 618 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool for me. They've been in Los 619 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Angeles for a now four years, so you know, throw 620 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: that in there somehow, and it was I know it wasn't. 621 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't little too much. I know that the bolt 622 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: was not a change, but just adding the Los Ange 623 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: to the bottom. I thought that was kind of cool. 624 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Popped out a little barn and keeping the powder of 625 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: blue with the sunshine gold is what it's called. The 626 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: color sunshine gold. That's pretty cool, yep, Jeff. Jeff pointed out. 627 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: You found out out real quickly, the sunshine gold. That's 628 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: the first thing I noticed. I love those I love 629 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: I love the color names just I'm making them up 630 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: and I love it. Uh. The one thing I will 631 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: say about the logo is, uh, no one has compared 632 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: it to any parts of the human body. And like 633 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: the other team in LA which is uh so, I 634 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: think the beauty of it is the Charters totally totally 635 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: crushed the rams and the rebranding of the logo here 636 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: this week, so I think the whole franchise should be 637 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: proud of that. I'm excited for the uniform release. What 638 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: I want is nineteen seventy two uniform powder blue tops, 639 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: gold pants, and the numbers on the helmet with yes. 640 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Give me that. That's the move. Yeah. The less the 641 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: less they do to the uniforms, I think the better. 642 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: And I think they're smart enough that they won't. We're 643 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: not gonna see him some dramatic change, although I do 644 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: like Gill's idea of the smiley face on the hills 645 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: for a Thursday night game or rush Yeah, exactly football. 646 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep driving at home. I'm gonna try and 647 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: make the smiley face a mean. I'm gonna keep trying, 648 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: throw it up, put it up again. Haley giving closing 649 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: thoughts on the logo. UM. I spent an hour yesterday 650 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: modeling variance of the logo with the Zoom backgrounds in 651 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: my apartment. My cat made her Chargers dot Com appearance. 652 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: But if you would like, as Daniel is now modeling, 653 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: if you'd like to download any of those for your 654 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: zoom pleasure visit Chargers dot com because they're all up there. 655 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: We got a Sofi Stadium one. But but I think 656 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because this, at least it's sort 657 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: of as crazy as this look at this guy, as 658 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: crazy as this new world that we're all just kind 659 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: of trying to navigate. Is to sort of tie in 660 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: what the team did with announcing the new logo marks 661 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: and the type and all of that with something as 662 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: tangible as a zoom background that you can upload yourself 663 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: is is pretty cool. So hopefully we'll see more of that. 664 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: I know we got some stickers on Instagram. The smiley 665 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: face is a sticker on Instagram. So if you search oh, 666 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: shoot Chargers or bolt up or something on on Instagram gifts, 667 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: I think you'll be able to get it. But just 668 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of bring it brings everyone together in this time, 669 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: which is what's most important, as long as we're keeping 670 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: our distance from each other at the same time, yes crucial. Yeah, 671 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: well we're all keeping our distance. I didn't know how 672 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: this was gonna go. I thought it could be a 673 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: train wreck with everyone talking over each other. But I 674 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: give everyone an a plus because I think it's really 675 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: hard I tried really hard to stay quiet. It was 676 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: very well done. It was very well done. We're gonna 677 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: get this on the site for our fans search there 678 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: you go. Look at this, guys, just technology, technology. You 679 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: know what. I want to ask you guys, one more 680 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: thing before we leave. Oh, look at that. One more thing. 681 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: What are you guys doing? Are you any any books, 682 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: any any shows that you're watching to kind of keep 683 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: the days rolling? Tire King? Yeah, yeah, we could go. 684 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: We could go ninety minutes on that if you want. 685 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: I've already done two one thousand piece puzzles. I'm reading 686 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Crime and Punishment and watching Brooklyn nine nine. Very that's working. Yeah, 687 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: and like writing about football, yeah, when I have some 688 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: free time. Yeah. Just just a few recommendations for people 689 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: who need shows to watch. Guilt what Gill said was great, 690 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Tiger King is ridiculous and worth your time. But also 691 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: You're the Worst. Not a show currently on the air, 692 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: but you can find out on Hulu. It's hilarious. And 693 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the first season of Righteous Gemstones for people who liked 694 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Ride Wonderful, Righteous Gemstones is a is a hit. It's amazing, incredible, 695 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: hal and I've talked about Joe Exotic a few times. 696 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: So there's a podcast about it too. I listen to 697 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the podcast while I was driving down to Costa, Mesa 698 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: from where I live up in the Hollywood. So the 699 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: podcast is incredible. I don't know how much I could take. 700 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more Joeotic I can take. Yeah, 701 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Low I can take. Yeah. Oh I finished it. Yeah, 702 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: the Carol Baskins do it? Listen? We can't. We can't 703 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: spoil it exactly, spoiler a large. Jeffer has not seen it. Jeff, 704 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: have you seen it? I have no idea what you 705 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: guys are talking about. I didn't want to set Popper 706 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: manage to throw in then he lives in Hollywood. You 707 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: guys get that I live somewhere else. Well, I'm just 708 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: sure you didn't have to say that. I'm not sure 709 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: if you if you lived in Lamorada, would you would 710 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: say that. I say wherever I live. My address is 711 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: in West Hollywood. So I'm gonna tell people that I 712 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: live in West Hollywood, all right? Just I just okay, 713 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: that's cool. Really, I think what we've learned here is 714 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: that none of none of this has changed, even if 715 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: we're all on zoom it's pretty much all the same, Yeah, 716 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: it is. I just I expect Popper to do it 717 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: from his his Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame. Yeah, 718 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: next week, Yeah, no problem. They're actually they're working on 719 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: it right now. It seemed essential, Yeah, essential, exactly. Yuys. 720 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: This was fun. We'll do it again next week if 721 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: we can get everybody together. It was. I think it 722 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: was informative and give us our fans a little insight 723 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: as to what's going on. In charge of land. Daniel Popper, 724 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: Jason Hirshhorn, Geomanzano, Jeff Miller, and Haley Elwood. I'm Chris Harry. 725 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: Look at Daniel Popper here. Get that background on zoom. 726 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: If you have conferences, and hopefully we'll see you next week.