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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome into One Bill's Live. Mattie Glab filling

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Speaker 1: in for Chris Brown this week alongside Steve Tasker on

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Speaker 1: this lovely early Wednesday afternoon. We've had two days together.

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Speaker 1: Now day number three together, number three. Countdown continues. The

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Speaker 1: top nine and in this article that's posted on NFL

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Speaker 1: both their coordinators and that it's really the offensive philosophies

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Speaker 1: and I imagine the defensive philosophies as well in the

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Speaker 1: NFL have changed vastly since since I was a player

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Speaker 1: back in the nineties. The the way they run it now,

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Speaker 1: and we've had offensive coordinators come through Buffalo and even

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Speaker 1: when I played after after the Super Bowl years and

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Speaker 1: throughout you know, the early decades of the two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Here they you get these coordinators who come through who

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Speaker 1: have a system they want to run, and that was

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Speaker 1: a big That was the way everybody did it back

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Speaker 1: in the eighties, nineties, and I'm sure back in the

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Speaker 1: sixties seventies as well. They had a philosophy of offense.

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Speaker 1: They ran, you know, the whether the West Coast offense

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00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: or the ground and pound, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: They all wanted to run a system of of offense

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Speaker 1: that they knew they could they could execute. Now it's

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00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: not that way anymore. It is not that way anymore.

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Speaker 1: Coaches in the NFL have gone to a level much

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Speaker 1: beyond where they were back in that at that time period,

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00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: because now they have the ability, you know, through the

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Speaker 1: through the process of becoming an NFL coach, of recognizing

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Speaker 1: what they have in their players and letting their players

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Speaker 1: do what they do best most of the time, if

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Speaker 1: not all the time, and they're limited now in back

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Speaker 1: in my day, I always thought Don Shula was a

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Speaker 1: fantastic coach because that's what they would do. He was

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Speaker 1: the winning is coach in NFL history because every year

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Speaker 1: they would come up and they would have guys and

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Speaker 1: they would be in certain years they would be really

458
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Speaker 1: simplistic defensively because they didn't have a versatile enough safeties

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Speaker 1: or corners to do a lot of different things, either

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Speaker 1: zone or man or whatever. They couldn't switch back and

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Speaker 1: forth as well as they liked. They'd had to play

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Speaker 1: a lot of zone, or they had to play they

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Speaker 1: like to play a lot of man because their guys

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Speaker 1: weren't very good zone. Whatever they did well, they did it,

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Speaker 1: and now they weren't deviating from that. They were limited

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Speaker 1: because of that, right, So they didn't do certain things,

467
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: but the things they did they did really well, and

468
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Speaker 1: they want a ton of games that way, and that

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Speaker 1: coaching style started to permeate the rest of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. So even now Brian Dable and the guys

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Speaker 1: here around and around the league, all the good offenses

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Speaker 1: you see around the league, and almost every one of them,

473
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Speaker 1: now they look at their own roster. What do we

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Speaker 1: do well, what do we what can we do and

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Speaker 1: what are we going to do best? That's what we're

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Speaker 1: going to look like, and from there we'll try and

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Speaker 1: expand a little bit as our players get more comfortable

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Speaker 1: and they can, you know, broaden their horizons a little bit,

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Speaker 1: we'll do a little more. We'll give him a little

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Speaker 1: more and then by the end of the season we'll

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Speaker 1: be in a much different place, hopefully. But that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Brian Dayble has been brilliant in the development

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Speaker 1: of Josh Allen and conversely, Josh has been a huge

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Speaker 1: weapon for Brian day Ball in his ability to run

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Speaker 1: the football and the throws that he can make and

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Speaker 1: how smart he is. As the fact that they he

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Speaker 1: got Josh got better game by game by game by

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Speaker 1: game and day Ball the red zone offenses they put

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Speaker 1: together last year, the concept were phenomenal and that that's

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Speaker 1: just one example. It's it has really been just a

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Speaker 1: great example of what the NFL is all about. And

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Speaker 1: having the all these guys back, the coordinators and all that.

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Speaker 1: That's where the Bills sit right now. And that's why

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Speaker 1: it's Super Bowl or bust, right I mean, they want

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Speaker 1: that's their ex expectation and I think they feel it

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Speaker 1: and are and rightfully so rightfully, so that's there's for

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Speaker 1: the taking and I think that's where you've got to

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Speaker 1: be as a team. Yeah, that confidence breeds a calm attitude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they don't seem like I know, it's the off

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Speaker 1: season and we've just seen them for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we're not we're not even close to

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Speaker 1: training camp. Training camp is a month away still. But

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Speaker 1: there's also the calm attitude and it's not like they're

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Speaker 1: on their toes like, oh, we gotta figure this out.

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Speaker 1: We got to figure that out. And again I go

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Speaker 1: back to the conversations that we've had with these players

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Speaker 1: and talking to Josh throughout Mini camp when he was

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Speaker 1: talking to media over zoom, it was we're able to

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Speaker 1: pick up at a different place this mini camp. Last

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Speaker 1: mini camp there was no mini camp because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: but this mini camp, it's not you know, figuring out ABCD.

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Speaker 1: We're on EFG on day one because we returned so

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Speaker 1: many to this roster. We know what the expectations are,

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00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: we know the coaches. There's nobody new walking around here

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Speaker 1: except your free agents and your draft picks, which it

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00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: is a decent group of new people. But when you

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Speaker 1: have so many people in the locker room who understand

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Speaker 1: expectations and understand what they need to do, day to day.

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Speaker 1: The new players kind of fall in line to that

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly, I think. And you're bringing in new players

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Speaker 1: who seem like very mature guys, especially some of the

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Speaker 1: vets that are walking into this locker room, and also

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Speaker 1: some of the rookies that we've been able to talk to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been impressed just hearing from them in

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Speaker 1: their interviews that they've already been able to do with us.

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Speaker 1: But there's this calmness about this group this year too,

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Speaker 1: and I think it comes from the confidence that they

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Speaker 1: have and the way that they've been able to pick

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Speaker 1: up where they left off and not necessarily have to,

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Speaker 1: you know, start day one, all right, this first day

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Speaker 1: of class, first day of school, I'm nervous. I don't

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00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: know where to go, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, we've been doing this for a few

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00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: years now, we get it. What you what you're saying

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Speaker 1: reminded me. Reminds me of what I remember coming back

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Speaker 1: after a Super Bowl, or coming back after the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight AFC Championship game where we lost to the

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Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati Bengals, and coming back after the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl years and knowing you've got a ton of guys

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Speaker 1: back and you look good. It's it's you feel ready

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Speaker 1: to play really early in training camp, and it really

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Speaker 1: early in OTAs. You feel really comfortable in what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: plus confident in it, and plus with the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: of the one we had, particularly in the in the

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Speaker 1: late eighties early nineties, when we had you know, Teddy

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Speaker 1: Marcha Brod and Nick Nikolau and some really outstanding coaches,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you've got flexibility enough so that you're

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Speaker 1: not just sitting there going, Okay, we're gonna do exactly

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00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: what we did last year. We're gonna win and stuff,

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00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: and you feel confident in your ability to adjust to

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00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: anything and to really execute any play they need to win.

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Speaker 1: And I think this team reminds me that the tone

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Speaker 1: of voice you're talking about, these guys having these interviews

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00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: reminds me of that those teams. Then you feel so

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Speaker 1: comfortable with the guys around you and so confident in

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Speaker 1: their ability, and also not just not just the fact

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Speaker 1: they're going to come back and do what they did

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00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: last year, but be better. You know they're working hard

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00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: to get better, and the coaching staff is implementing new

560
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: things and refreshing things. You just feel so you know,

561
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: on point about everything about your team. You just you

562
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: want to play. You know, you're really ready to play.

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00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: You feel ready to play opening day or training camp

564
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I wish you know, let's go.

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00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: It's that kind of confidence and eagerness to participate. And

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Speaker 1: I that what you said just then reminded me of

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Speaker 1: that atmosphere we had on those early Super Bowl teams

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Speaker 1: that these guys must feel the exact same way there.

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Speaker 1: The amount of cohesion they've got is really unique in

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Speaker 1: this day and age because a free agency and all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a good atmosphere to have. It's an impressive atmosphere

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00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: to have. And it's a unique atmosphere to have. It's

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Speaker 1: something that doesn't come around every single year. And I

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: think this team and we have been blessed with it,

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00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: with an atmosphere that that they've had for several years now,

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Speaker 1: where it's just I mean, we probably are so used

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Speaker 1: to it we don't appreciate it enough. You know, I

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00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: think there's still enough of us around, you know, enough

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Speaker 1: Bills fans in this area. Remember the drought. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we love the continuity, right, I mean this, if this

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00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: was a normal cycle like it was ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: we weren't a head coaching search. Remember, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know Rex was gone after two taster. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: I came in in twenty nineteen. I only know good

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Football's let's remember that Doug Morone opts out

586
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Dick Giron, he signed him, they signed him to an extension,

587
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they go oh for you

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00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: know after that, you know Chan Gaily. These guys come

589
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: in and see the better part of a five year deal,

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00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: three or four years, and it's just like, no, not working.

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Speaker 1: This is Sean mcder coming into Seaan mcdermot's what is

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00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: his fourth fifth year, fourth year, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: his fifth year, fifth year. I mean, normally it's a

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00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: hiring cycle for the Bills, and that is no way,

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00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: shape or form happening. So it really feels a bit

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00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: unique for a long term for you know, for lifers

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00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo, which is it's a fun place to

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00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: remember being when you think back to the last guy

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00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: to do is probably Marv. It's a long time. So

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Speaker 1: you guys appreciate a little bit more than I. Scientists

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00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: came into good Buffalo Bills football. Maybe you're the you're

602
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: the Rabbits. No no, no, no, Sean McDermot, Brandon be

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00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: and starts with them. I have nothing to do with it.

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00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm just lucky enough to get to report on this team.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to take our first break of the day.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll jump into this tweet sheet

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00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: and have some early responses on our Twitter question. So goof,

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Speaker 1: it's a call if you want to add in. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty will be right back. One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Rack here on One Bills Live Maddie glab

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Speaker 1: and Steve Tasker. We've got a Twitter poll out today

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Speaker 1: and it is if the Bills win their first Super Bowl,

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00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: it will be because of what Is it going to

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00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: be because Josh Allen wins the MVP? Is it going

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00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: to be because the Bills have a top five defense

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00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: that's unstoppable? Maybe home field advantage throughout the playoffs or

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Speaker 1: something else? Tweet us, call us, let us know what

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Speaker 1: you think. Eight three five fifty. We're gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the phone lines right before we get into our tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: We've got Bobby from Lancaster, who's on with us. Bobby,

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Speaker 1: why do you think the Bills could win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: What do you think it would be? Because of all right,

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Speaker 1: cool aid Maddie. Just playing with you and Steven, this

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00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: is what I got for you, all right. I see

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: a lot of analogies with this team and your team

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00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: back thirty years ago, and I'll get in that. Of course,

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00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: you are right. We gotta play better on that particular day,

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Speaker 1: and it starts with Josh Allen subpower a little bit

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but we know he has it in him.

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Speaker 1: If Josh Allen plays Sam as Mahomes, I believe we

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00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: can win that game, all right, So we gotta play

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Speaker 1: better on that day. Like you said many times, now,

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Speaker 1: I want to give you a little caveat here with this.

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Speaker 1: What I believe the Bills need to win their Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and what will put them over the top is

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Speaker 1: their front office and Brandon Bean and mc dermott. These

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00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: guys are terrific. They seem to make no wrong moves.

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00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: A little analogy here. We got an eighty five Bruce Smith,

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Speaker 1: we got Jim Kelly eighty six. I gotta steal in

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Speaker 1: the second round with Sermon and eighty eight. We made

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Speaker 1: the Biscuit trade. You got some guys in like Leonard

643
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: Smith and McKellar, and we just started building, building, and

644
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: it was in the late eighties, well here was in

645
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: the late seventeen eighteen nineteen, the last few years we

646
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: started building and getting all these players. You make a

647
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: trade for Stefan Diggs, just like the Biscuit one. I'm

648
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: the lead drafting guys like Edmonds and Josh Allen, and

649
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: they're drafting of third, fourth, and fifth rounders that are

650
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: turning into stars, like Dave Davis Milano, this kid Spencer

651
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: Brown to tackle on the third round believing he is

652
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: going to be a star. I see so many similarities

653
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: to your team back thirty years ago and what's going

654
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: on with these guys. So I do believe that it's

655
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: going to be the front office and these guys that

656
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: are running the show because I said before, I trust

657
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: them with my family because I know they know what

658
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: they're doing, and that is going to be the reason

659
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: they keep drafting like you said earlier, and keep putting

660
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: these guys in the third, fourth, fifth round that are starters,

661
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: not just contributors, but you got guys getting a contract

662
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: like Milano. These are serious, serious drafts raises. And this

663
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: thing even going to your first round is with Rousseau

664
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: and the other guys up and us isn't everything which

665
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: are going to contribute. So I see so many similarities

666
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: back to when we built that team Napoleon back in

667
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: the early late eighties. But now, but I believe, of

668
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: course we got to play better in that day, like

669
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: you said, and it's all on Josh's back. However we

670
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: win the super Bowl, it's that's front office that will

671
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: put us over the top, is what I believe. I'll

672
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: let all the things what you gotta see about it. Thanks, Bobby,

673
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: appreciate it your What are your first thoughts on what

674
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: he all the things he said, I mean, I totally

675
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: agree with that in some aspect and in a lot

676
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: of ways. It starts with Brandon being in that scouting department,

677
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: because if they don't see these players and they don't

678
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: grab them in free agency or they don't draft them,

679
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: he is completely right. We don't have the team that

680
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: we currently have without Brandon being and that coaching staff

681
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: and the vision that Brandon and Sean have together. And

682
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: I think the way that they're able to work together

683
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: is also a big part of it. The way that

684
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: Sean and Brandon can do their business and the way

685
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: that Sean is involved in some of that stuff, and

686
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: the way that Brandon is involved in some of Sean's stuff.

687
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, in a lot of ways, it does start

688
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: with when you're scouting, how you're how you're looking at

689
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: talent um, the projections that you're giving players. I mean,

690
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: let's go back to when Josh Allen was going to

691
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: be was a draft pick, right, he was not at

692
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: the top of everyone's list. Sean and Brandon saw something

693
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: in him that a lot of people didn't see happening,

694
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: or they thought there was the potential there, but it

695
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: wasn't worth the pick or and it wasn't worth spending

696
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: that to see if it could happen. If it wasn't

697
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, a guaranteed in their eyes, based on the

698
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: film they studied and based on the scouts that they have, Right,

699
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: He's right, it is about there's so many things that

700
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: come together for a Super Bowl championship. I mean, let's

701
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: be real, You're right, the coaching, in the in the

702
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: roster management of the GM. They have to be on point.

703
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: They have to They have to find guys in the draft.

704
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: They can't miss on that many draft picks. They got

705
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: to get it right a lot more than they get

706
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: it wrong, more so than other teams do. Anyway, They

707
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: got to hit on a quarterback absolutely, I mean than

708
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: this day and age, I think more so than any other.

709
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: You gotta have a guy's playing really well at that spot.

710
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: You can't, I mean, Rex Grossman's don't go to super

711
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Bowls anymore. Right, So there's that, and He's right, there

712
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: were there are some similarities. But but there are similarities

713
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: between every good Super Bowl team, every win super Bowl

714
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: winning team, and teams who get there or teams who

715
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: are aspiring to get there, you know. So yeah, the

716
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: teams of the nineties do have some things in common

717
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: with this one. Bruce Jim Thurman, Andre Reid, and of

718
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: course you know Cornelius Bennett getting a blockbuster trade to

719
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: have him come in. It's the same kind of it's

720
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: the same kind of difference he made that Steph Diggs

721
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: made this last year, only on the other side of

722
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: the football. So all of that stuff goes into the mix.

723
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: And I've always said, and I've said that not just

724
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: because I'm a former player. But the game is the players.

725
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: The game is the players. The coaches and the gms

726
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: decide who those players are going to be and what

727
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: kind of players do they want on their team. And

728
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: then the fans or what makes the NFL, I mean

729
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: the players of the game, the fans of the league,

730
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: and they all all as there's a million moving parts

731
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: in all of these franchises, and Bobby came in and

732
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: he just he touched on all of them. Good players,

733
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: high draft picks, low draft picks that contribute out of nowhere.

734
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: Coaches who make all the right moves on game day,

735
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: don't blow time out to use the clock, you know,

736
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: maximize their possessions, all of that stuff. The GM who

737
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: makes unexpected and yet savvy moves for the right reasons,

738
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: reasons that nobody else kind of sees like he knows

739
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,240
Speaker 1: something about a guy that nobody else does, Like nobody

740
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: knew Josh Allen was the most intelligent of the twenty

741
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: eighteen quarterback class. I mean he by tests, standardized tests,

742
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: he tested significantly higher than any of the other guys, Baker,

743
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Sam Lamar, Josh Rosen, significantly higher than all those guys.

744
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: He also grew up on a farm. He grew up

745
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: working hard, and he's really smart and he's supremely gifted.

746
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: If you look at your if you're a GM and

747
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: you get that guy, and you look at your coaching staff,

748
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: you can't do something with that guy there, right, So

749
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: that's the guy they get, and that's those are the

750
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: decisions they make and they turn out. Plus the guy's

751
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: like Milano and Levi Wallace and you know, you can

752
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: go down the list, right. So there's a million things

753
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: that have to come together, but those are the same

754
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: million things every other team's dealing with. Two So when

755
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: you get up there to the last the final four

756
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL, all that kind of stuff, even if

757
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: it's just for one year, all that stuff came together

758
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: for that team. What's going to set the bills apart?

759
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be playing in this building

760
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: with these fans, with yeah, with these fans late January,

761
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: with that kind of momentum of over that that progression

762
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: that we have seen, plus you know, splashing back down

763
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: with the fans in the stands after being gone for

764
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: a year. I think that's a hard combination to be

765
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that steam rolls him

766
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: into the into the Super Bowl this year. If it,

767
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: if it, if it happens that way, it's going to

768
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: be a spectacular site. We'll go back to the phone lines.

769
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: We've got Justin on with us, if I can get

770
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: this mouse right, All right, Justin, you're on with us.

771
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: If the Bills win their first Super Bowl? Why do

772
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: you think it'll be Steve task or comes out of

773
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: retirement and play special. That was the other I was

774
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: looking forward. That'll give him a flat time. I mean,

775
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that wasn't one of the answers, but you know,

776
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: I had to throw a guy in there, because special teams.

777
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: It's just that sneaky, secret, little ingredient that you need

778
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, take it all the way that

779
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Steve knows. But anyway, and all seriousness, Um, I look

780
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: back at the era when Steve was part of the

781
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: team and did go to the Super Bowls with us,

782
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't have stats off the top

783
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: of my head, but I think that the Bills were

784
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: in a position back then where you know, obviously, over

785
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: those four years, our offenses you could consider it pretty explosive.

786
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: They could score almost at any time, and maybe from

787
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: one season to another statistically they redressed, but that defense

788
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: was always there, you know, and there were games where

789
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: the defense would bend but it didn't break. But otherwise,

790
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, you had you had pretty consistent play and

791
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: pretty solid defense. So I think that the recipe then

792
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: this year would be, you know, let's assume that the

793
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: offense does take a step back and they go from

794
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: twenty nine points a game to twenty six twenty five.

795
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: If the defense makes that difference up and plays it

796
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, obviously has the scheme correctly and and figure

797
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: out obviously, at the end of the day, how do

798
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: you stop Patrick Mahomes or Baker Mayfield. As long as

799
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: we've got some consistency over the season, you know, and

800
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: guys back in key pieces and health on our side.

801
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: If our offense isn't as explosive as it was last year,

802
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: but it is still considered pretty solid offense, you know,

803
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: even if they go down by a couple of points

804
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: per game as opposed to last year. I think if

805
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: the defense makes that difference up, you know, game by game,

806
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: we're right there. And I think, you know, we found

807
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: ourselves in that position last year against Kansas City where

808
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: we had. You know, we started off with a lucky bounce,

809
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: but we scored, you know, and then it just we

810
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: couldn't figure anything out. Kansas City just you know, tore

811
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: us up at will. I think, you know, if the

812
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: defense can be healthy, have a full training camp, which

813
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: they're going to have this year, I think we're going

814
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: to hit the ground running and I think it can

815
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: carry through as long as we're healthy to a super Bowl,

816
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: which I totally expect. If not by week ten, Steve,

817
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: I expect to hear. I expect to hear your coming

818
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: out of retirement. Many we lost him, lost him as

819
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: he coaxed me out of retirement. That's there's something to

820
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: be said for that. But yeah, yeah, if you consistent

821
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: play and the defense can pick up. And he said,

822
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, last year, if if the offense is a

823
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: little different this year, if it regresses a couple of

824
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: points a game, the defense got a step up. This team,

825
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: this team may look a lot like it did last year,

826
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: but let's not forget it doesn't have to, because last

827
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: year's team looked way way different than the two nineteen Bills.

828
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: If you remember, that's just one season removed from a

829
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: playoff team that won ten games, they turned into an

830
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: offensive jugger, not that won thirteen games with the AFC Championship.

831
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: That potential for that much change is still there for

832
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: this team to look very different than it did. What

833
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: are we gonna do if Josh Allen comes up and

834
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: in sixteen games last year he threw for forty five

835
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: or forty six hundred yards or whatever it was and

836
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: through for all those touchdown what if this year he

837
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: throws for four thousand yards flat, has a few less

838
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: touchdown but the running game all of a sudden runs

839
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: for you know, twenty five hundred yards from scrimmage on

840
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: the on the ground, and we turn into that kind

841
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: of team because of the trend in the league. Says that,

842
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: and who cares? But there's that I'm just saying, and

843
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: I bring it up as an example, is there's at

844
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: We don't know what this team's gonna look like. A

845
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of guys are the same, so it you know,

846
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: you kind of think it's headed towards being what it

847
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: was last year. But He's right, Justin's right. Whatever changes

848
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: are made in this team, the results are going to

849
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: be on the scoreboard, wins and losses, points scored, points

850
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: allowed yards and I'm I'm he's right. You don't want

851
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: to get caught up in saying Josh's gonna come out

852
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: and even go further this year. He's gonna do this it.

853
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't care. I just wanted to win another thirteen

854
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Speaker 1: or fourteen games this year, right, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: win a bunch of games. I don't care. It looks

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Speaker 1: like so and that's what you gotta remember. It may

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Speaker 1: look different than it did last year, but as long

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Speaker 1: as you get a w at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: we're all happy. Yeah, thanks for the call, justin a

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Speaker 1: good point. Sorry we lost you, but we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a few minutes off here when we come back. Some

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Speaker 1: more discussion about if the Bills win their first Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: what could it look like and why would it be?

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Speaker 1: Because of We'll catch you back here, and a few

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into One Bills Live on this Wednesday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Twitter poll Twitter question out if the

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Speaker 1: Bills win their first Super Bowl this year, it will

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Speaker 1: be because of what Josh Allen MVP season, the defense

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Speaker 1: bawling home field advantage in the playoffs or other. We're

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Speaker 1: going to dip into our tweet sheet, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and will start first with Tiffany Daniels.

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Speaker 1: She says, great quarterback play usually defines a championship season.

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Speaker 1: If the Bills are going to bring home the Lombardi Trophy,

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Speaker 1: it will fall on Josh playing at an MVP level

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Speaker 1: and dominating in the playoffs. He's heading into his prime

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Speaker 1: with weapons and his OC returning. We have a shot.

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Speaker 1: We do have a shot. Expectations are high, no question.

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Speaker 1: She's right. I mean every over the last I don't know,

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Speaker 1: at least ten years. You can't get to the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl unless he's got a quarterbacks playing really well. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he has to be playing at

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Speaker 1: an MVP level well, but he's got to be playing well.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, he can't go to the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with Rex Grossman anymore, right, So we'll see how that

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Speaker 1: plays out. But yeah, and John, and even if John

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Speaker 1: didn't win this MVP last year, if he plays like

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Speaker 1: he did last year, they got a shot at it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, even if he's not in the MVP if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't win the MVP, although the year he had

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Speaker 1: last year in certain years would have been in the

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Speaker 1: money for an MVP. So um. But you got guys

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Speaker 1: like you know, Aaron Rodgers playing lights out and doing

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Speaker 1: really am playing at an elite level. But that's what

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Speaker 1: it's It's not easy to win the MVP, right, so um,

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Speaker 1: if Josh has a kind of year he did last year,

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Speaker 1: certainly he may or may not be in the MVP conversation.

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Speaker 1: But that'll be good enough for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: team to pick up the slack and win a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl to get there, I say it again, they were

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Speaker 1: good enough last year, but you got to play well

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Speaker 1: and that's up to Sean McDermott and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the guys to do that, you know, on any given Sunday.

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Speaker 1: And plus I've always said this, you know, people, gosh,

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Speaker 1: how'd you lose four super Bowls in a row? I

907
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Speaker 1: will listen. You don't play three and thirteen teams in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl you played. He played. He played the

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Speaker 1: best guys. So it's hard to beat those guys. And

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Speaker 1: that's the way it always is. And even if the

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Speaker 1: Bills go to and we're not able to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, lose another Super Bowl. That other teams it's

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Speaker 1: not going to be easy for them. So they gotta

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Speaker 1: get back there play well. And the expectations are that

915
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Speaker 1: if you go there, your quarterbacks got to be playing well.

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Speaker 1: They have to have their best game. If you don't

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Speaker 1: have a few of a game like you did against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the AFC Championship last year, you're not

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Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl, you're not winning the AFC Championship.

920
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Speaker 1: That the best game. You gotta show up, you gotta play.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't always happen that way. Sometimes you just

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Speaker 1: have an off game. But hopefully this year, by the

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Speaker 1: time they make to the playoffs, they just plow through

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Speaker 1: those teams. It's right, all right, We've got another break

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Speaker 1: coming up here for us. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: will take a couple more calls. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three, five fifty. If the Bills make their

928
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Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, why would it be? What would it

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Speaker 1: looked like? We'll see you back here in a few

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Speaker 1: On One Bill's Life presented by Clyde of Health. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio had a steep tasker who has

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Speaker 1: put all all river Fields. How unique he was kind

933
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Speaker 1: of a dual role player for you state a state

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Speaker 1: a blimp. We're not even in the straded beer of normalcy.

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Speaker 1: He welcome into One Bills Live, our number two of

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Speaker 1: the show. Maddy glabs Steve Tasker here. Coming up at

937
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: two o'clock. We're gonna have ESPN's Bill Barnwell on. We're

938
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the twenty eighteen draft class. He did

939
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: a deep dive into some of the numbers that the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks have put up over the last few seasons since

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Speaker 1: they've came into the NFL. Of course, Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: on that list, so we'll ask him about the draft class,

943
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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, how he ranks against those other guys,

944
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Speaker 1: and you know, what to expect for this season. It's interesting.

945
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Speaker 1: His article is pretty interesting to read. And obviously we've seen,

946
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Speaker 1: you know, we saw Baker Mayfield in the second half

947
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Speaker 1: of his rookie season bounced back, and then the first

948
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Speaker 1: half of his second season, um not actually the second

949
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Speaker 1: half of his second season just come up. Everything came

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Speaker 1: apart with Freddie Kitchens in a head coach, and then

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Speaker 1: Stefanski put him back into sadly had a really good

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00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: second half of last year, played really well, got him

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs and won a playoff game. And so

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield um has been a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: roller coaster. Lamar Jackson obviously had the huge MVP type season,

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Speaker 1: but the offense he runs is a little bit limited.

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Speaker 1: And of course, now you know, after after year one,

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Speaker 1: Baker was probably number one. After year two, obviously Lamar

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Speaker 1: was number one after year three, I think Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: number one. We'll see how it ends up when their

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Speaker 1: careers are done. And that's kind of what Bill Barnwell

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Speaker 1: got to in his in his ranking. You know, Baker

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Speaker 1: got off to a fast start, played well, and then

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Speaker 1: when they made the head coaching change, when Freddy Kitchens

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Speaker 1: became the head coach, it kind of went south. Lamar was,

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Speaker 1: you know, sat there behind Joe Flacco or with Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco his first year. Then when he took the reins

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Speaker 1: and they ran that really really creatively run game oriented offense,

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: he was MVP. So you know, you gotta put him

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Speaker 1: at the top of the class on that year. And

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Speaker 1: then this last year Josh was runner up in the

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Speaker 1: MVP valoting and they often scored five hundred points. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Josh is really seems the one that seems to

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Speaker 1: be consistently ascending. When we've got a Twitter poll Twitter

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Speaker 1: question out that we've been discussing at length already in

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Speaker 1: this show. If the Bills won their first Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: would it be because of Josh Allen winning the MVP,

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Speaker 1: the top five defense, or home field advantage in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs or do you think it's going to be something else?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three five fifty tweet

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Speaker 1: in your answer if you're watching on MSG. We're looking

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Speaker 1: at the Twitter poll right now. Forty two percent of you,

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Speaker 1: which leads the vote, think it's gonna be because Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen wins the MVP. Forty one point three percent think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be because of a top five defense.

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Speaker 1: That'll be why the Buffalo Bills win their first Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Twelve and a half percent think it could be because

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Speaker 1: the Bills have home field advantage the number one seed

989
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: and other is four point one percent. We're actually seeing

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Speaker 1: the change here in the Twitter poll, your new number

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Speaker 1: one leading the way with forty three point one percent

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Speaker 1: since the first time we looked at it. Just change.

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Speaker 1: Top five defense leads the way and why people think

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Speaker 1: the Bills could win their first Super Bowl. Do you

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00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: think that's because they're taking it a little bit for

996
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: granted that Josh, you're gonna play well in the offense

997
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: is going to play well. So if the defense is

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Speaker 1: top five or gets back into the top five, that

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Speaker 1: the teams complete, I think I think it's discounting of

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Speaker 1: a regression of whatever nature would take to take the

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Speaker 1: offense out of the top echelon of the league. They

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Speaker 1: often is there to stay, is what they're saying. The

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Speaker 1: offense is there to stay. But if even if the

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Speaker 1: offense takes a tiny step back, I think the defense

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Speaker 1: is what you need. So you need a solid defense, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need solid defense. Didn't show up against the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: it seems today and today's NFL. Certainly, if you got

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Speaker 1: a pass rush, like if it's a healthy forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers pass rush or a Steelers pass rush with Dupree

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Speaker 1: in the mix. You know last year they were they

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Speaker 1: were just dynamite. If you've got a pass rush like that, okay,

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00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: that's great. But what you really need around the league

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00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: good defenses, for the most part, are the ones that

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00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: every so often when your team needs they make a play,

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Speaker 1: it's not It can be about keeping the other team

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Speaker 1: off the field and keeping them off the scoreboard. The

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Speaker 1: Patriots are notorious for being really good. They'll give you

1018
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: all kinds of yards if you want it, but you

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00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: can't score on them. That's a great defense. That's an

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00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: elite defense. But a lot of the defenses for very

1021
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: good teams around the league are defenses that are timely

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Speaker 1: and turnover oriented and great at third down defense. Not

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Speaker 1: so much first and second, but on third down they

1024
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Speaker 1: get you off the field. Situational football. So it's not

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Speaker 1: one of these old time you know Chicago Bears, Monster

1026
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Speaker 1: of the Midway or the eighty five Bears, or you

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Speaker 1: know the Seattle Seahawks defense or the Legion of Boom defense.

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Speaker 1: It's more about a defense that plays well situationally, and

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Speaker 1: there are at times when it looks bad or not

1030
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: as good, but in certain situations that are crucial, they

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: seem to consistently come through. Defend a pass, force a fumble,

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Speaker 1: get a sack, you know, pick out a tipped interception,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. They seem to come through

1034
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Speaker 1: in certain situations. So it's not a lot of these

1035
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Speaker 1: really good defense to me, a lot of good defenses

1036
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Speaker 1: are more about playmaking than they are about being stifling

1037
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Speaker 1: defenses and having the great run fits and that kind

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00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: of thing. They get a guy on a sweep or

1039
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Speaker 1: a screen pass, they tackle a guy for a five

1040
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Speaker 1: yard loss on second, second and long. Now it's third

1041
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: and long, and they get them off the field. One

1042
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Speaker 1: play every three plays is kind of good for a defense.

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Speaker 1: If they can win that play outright, it puts them

1044
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Speaker 1: in a better better position. A lot of offenses just

1045
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: aren't good enough to overcome that, whether they drop a

1046
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Speaker 1: pass or in complete pass or you know whatever. So

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Speaker 1: I think the Bill's defense could improve a lot if

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00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: they get a consistent contribution. Are they they got a

1049
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: consistent contribution from their secondary they have for five straight

1050
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Speaker 1: years or four straight years. But if their pass rush

1051
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Speaker 1: turns into something different, something special, and if they don't

1052
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: on early downs give up a seam on a run

1053
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Speaker 1: play and they do that consistently, both those things consistently, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they they they climb the rankings really quickly, because that's

1055
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Speaker 1: really what it was last year. An early early down

1056
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Speaker 1: run play that gets to second in short or second

1057
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Speaker 1: and medium, or a gas run play or a mistap whatever.

1058
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Speaker 1: Those early downs get them into bad positions. They just

1059
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Speaker 1: couldn't get teams off the field. And that's if they

1060
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: can get back to playing great situational football. Defensively, they

1061
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: don't really need nine thousand sacks. We're gonna go back

1062
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Speaker 1: to the phone line. We've got somebody who's been hanging

1063
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Speaker 1: on for almost thirty minutes. We'll go to Ederick from

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. If the Bills win their first Super Bowl,

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00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: why do you think it will be because of what's up? Guys?

1066
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: It's playing and simple. It's it's beating Kansas City and

1067
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: beating them twice, beating them in the regular season and

1068
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: beating them in the playoffs. And unfortunately, we did nothing

1069
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: to get better at beating Kansas City. There are our

1070
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: main concern. You know, we lost handily twice. And you know, Steve,

1071
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: I disagree you think we can beat Kansas City. We

1072
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: can't bank on them not showing up. And the end

1073
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: of the day, I believe if they're at their best

1074
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: and we are at our best, they will beat us

1075
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten. Heck, I think they'll beat

1076
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: the ten times out of ten. And there's no bigger

1077
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: proof than an AFC Championship game. They spotted us ten

1078
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: points and in the even teams, that's the difference in

1079
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: the ballgame. That's the difference though that that mistake they

1080
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: made should have been their nail in the coffin, you know,

1081
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: and they just beat us like a drum. I mean

1082
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: they reversed the ten and beat us by two touchdowns,

1083
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, and they got better. They loved in the

1084
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They saw their quarterback get harassed. They said,

1085
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: you know what, we need to upgrade offensive line, and

1086
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: they did that. We stayed pat with the same guy

1087
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: that we had, which were terrific guys, and we can

1088
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: beat any team in the AFC. We can. I believe

1089
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be very hard for us to be

1090
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City for a while now. I do think there

1091
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: are three things because obviously we couldn't do anything to

1092
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: get exponentially better because we were restricted with cap and

1093
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: with players available. UM, but there are three things in

1094
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: the house that can happen Stephen Maddie that I think

1095
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: can can take us over. UH. Number one is Josh

1096
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: taking another step, which would be almost unfathable because I

1097
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: mean Josh was just absolutely terrific last year. UM. Number two,

1098
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: which I think is a more realistic one, is at

1099
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: Oliver really taking a step and and really becoming a nuisance.

1100
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking Aaron Donald or or or like

1101
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: a J. J. Watt, but just just to a level

1102
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: where he's a difference maker down in and down out,

1103
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of what we had out of Kyle, you know,

1104
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: to just to make it relatable, so we remember what

1105
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Kyle was from twenty ten to two thousand and fifteen. Man,

1106
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Kyle was elite. I mean, that guy was as good

1107
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: as it comes. Um. And then my third one is

1108
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: if Greg Rizzo and Boogie Basham, I think really gotta

1109
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: be not difference makers, but contribute. And I'm talking let's

1110
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: say they combined for sixteen sacks and they and they

1111
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: harass quarterbacks every now and then, and that could be

1112
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: the difference. But until that, until then, I see us

1113
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: beating the New York Knicks and then being the Michael

1114
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: Jordan's man, because let me tell you it was rough

1115
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: those two games last year. They really were guys. Well,

1116
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in. I mean, we're definitely you're definitely

1117
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: right on with with what right here? And I don't

1118
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: but I here's the thing. I don't agree with a

1119
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: couple of things you said, or at least not to

1120
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: the agree. You gotta acknowledge the Chiefs are really good.

1121
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: The Chiefs played their bet. The Chiefs will beat and

1122
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, Yeah, it's the Chiefs will beat

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00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: anybody they play in it. And so the Bills, the

1124
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: Bills are a tough out. You asked, You ask a

1125
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: lot of the AFC teams, and who the tough teams are?

1126
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: The Bills are in that conversation, the Bills are closer

1127
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: to beating the Chiefs than anybody else in the in

1128
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: the conference, maybe anybody else in the league on a

1129
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: consistent basis. The Bills did get better. They got they

1130
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: drafted two high first round draft picks on the defensive line.

1131
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: They're getting Starlow, two lay back on the defensive line

1132
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 1: as well. Ed Oliver's coming into a third year where

1133
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: he's going to get more help than he's ever had

1134
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: before as well. They also and this build and I've

1135
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: heard a lot about it. Hey, Kansas City finally got

1136
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: their offensive line, but their offensive line didn't need to

1137
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: be fixed. They got two tackles hurt and the AFC

1138
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Championship Game, their offensive line was great all year. So

1139
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: this thing about how they hobbled through the season with

1140
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line is not true. They had a

1141
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: really good offensive line all through last season. They had

1142
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: a couple of guys opt out, but the guys that

1143
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: went in there were really good players. They got bad

1144
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: break in the AFC Championship game when they lost two

1145
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: guys on consecutive plays or right in that game, and

1146
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't play in the Super Bowl. That's what lost

1147
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: him the Super Bowl. The Bucks have got the Bucks

1148
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: have pass rush is good, but the Chiefs offensive line

1149
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: was a bunch of just guys. They were They were hobbled,

1150
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: and that's why Pat Mahomes couldn't throw the football. The

1151
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs would not have gotten thumped by the Bucks if

1152
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: they'd have had both tackles healthy. So the fact that

1153
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: you think they got better on their offensive they just

1154
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: had to get new guys. The guys they replaced were

1155
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: good anyway. So I don't think the Chiefs got better

1156
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: on their offensive line. I think they just got younger

1157
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: and healthier. So you can say what I'm telling you,

1158
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: You're right. The Chiefs are a tough team to beat,

1159
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: and when they play their best not too many teams

1160
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: can beat them, if any. But I would say the

1161
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: same thing about Buffalo, and I've said it ten times.

1162
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: The Bills played their worst game in ten weeks against

1163
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game. Their worst game

1164
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: in ten weeks the Chiefs. If you go back and watch,

1165
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: go back and look at all those games, you tell

1166
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: me the Chiefs didn't play their absolute best game and

1167
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game in two months. They played their

1168
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: best game against the Bills in the AFC Championship Game.

1169
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, the Chiefs knew they didn't have

1170
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: to play their best in the two months before that,

1171
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: and that's why they were in the Super Bowl. They

1172
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: got beat. They went to the Super Bowl and won it,

1173
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: and then they went or a FC Championship game and

1174
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: got beat. They went to the Super Bowl and won it.

1175
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: They went back to the Super Bowl and almost won it.

1176
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: That's a team that knows when the chips are down.

1177
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: They got to play their best. The Bills were not there.

1178
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: The Bills went into AFC Championship Game not knowing what

1179
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: to expect because nobody had ever been there. The Chiefs

1180
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: played that like old, like old school guys. They knew

1181
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: what the score was, a something Mattie and I talked

1182
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: about earlier in the broadcast. The Bills had not been there.

1183
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: It was just part of the process for the Chiefs.

1184
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: That was the game the Chiefs had been focusing on

1185
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: for two months, and they finally got there when they

1186
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: were ready. The Bills didn't ever know or believe they

1187
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: were going to get there until they were actually there,

1188
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: and they did not play their best so and that

1189
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: turned into a two touchdown loss for the Bills. Those

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: two teams are not as far away as Chiefs fans

1191
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: and Bills. To me, they're not as far away as

1192
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: Bills fans. Chiefs fans tend to think they are. I

1193
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think they're that far apart. Certainly,

1194
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a more illustrious pedigree over the last

1195
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: five years because of Andy Read and Mahomes and all

1196
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: of that stuff, no question about it. But the Bills

1197
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: have no reason to think they can't stand toe to

1198
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: toe with those guys in play. And I get it.

1199
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: They beat them twice, and I would say this, and

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01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: I was thinking this too, And I don't know if Edrich,

1201
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: if you're still there to answer me this. I almost

1202
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: think it would be better if the Bills didn't beat

1203
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the priests in the regular season this

1204
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: coming regular season and got to see him in Buffalo

1205
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, because I don't want the Bills to

1206
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: give the Chiefs any kind of chip on their shoulder

1207
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: when they do meet in the playoffs, as I think

1208
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: they will. I would rather have the Chiefs look past

1209
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: the Bills in the playoffs than having lumped them up

1210
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: in the regular season then getting a rematch and having

1211
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: the Chiefs something to prove. You know what I mean. Yeah,

1212
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: But I just think losing to them again, see, would

1213
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: be catastrophic. It would be catastrophic. It would be it

1214
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: would be mental. Now I get you, now, it's mental.

1215
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: It would be mental for you and me because we're fans.

1216
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: But I know from this from the inside being a

1217
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: former player. Now, you take your they'll take their swing.

1218
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: They'll take those guys they won't get they won't A

1219
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: loss to the Chiefs won't be crushing because it's just

1220
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: one loss and it has nothing to do with the

1221
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: two losses or three losses they've had to him over

1222
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: the past two years. The Bills players count. Every game

1223
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: is a separate entity, and the Bills team that plays

1224
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 1: him this year, even if it's Josh and Tremaine, Edmonds,

1225
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: Milano and the whole gang, the same gang from mostly

1226
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: from the year before, there's it's still gonna be a

1227
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: different team. So that, while you're right, it crushes fans

1228
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: to keep getting beat by the same team over and over.

1229
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: It's not the same for the team because they know

1230
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: every game is different. So don't I know that's true

1231
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: for us, it's not true for them. I don't know, man.

1232
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: I watched this lose. It was a sixteen seventeen games

1233
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: in a row in New England, and I think sometimes

1234
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: it was mental. See God, no doubt about it. I

1235
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: get it. I get it, you know, I mean it.

1236
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: It'd be tough, man, But but I'm with you. I

1237
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: mean we obviously, any given Sunday, anyone can win in

1238
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: the league. Um, that's true. We just got all you got, listen, Idric,

1239
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: all you can ask for it. Let your team play

1240
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: their best and then see what happens here. You can

1241
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: live with it. Yeah, that's all right. Thanks, Thanks, We'll

1242
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: go back to the phone lines. We've gotten Mike from

1243
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Hilton head on with us. Mike, if the Bills win

1244
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl, what do you think it'll look

1245
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: like and why do you think it'll be because of Well,

1246
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: I have two points, and the first point is if

1247
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: the Bills win the first Super Bowl, it would be

1248
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: because they have the least injuries during the season to

1249
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: keep players. And I think that if you look at

1250
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: the football in general and some of the key teams,

1251
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: taking for example Dallas last year losing their quarterback, the

1252
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: injury effect in the National Football League is so critical.

1253
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: And if you get that kind of an injury to

1254
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: someone like our quarterback, um, and it's not it's not

1255
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: the second game, and it's not a week long thing,

1256
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: but it's a fourteenth game, you're in trouble no matter

1257
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: how good you are. So I'd like for you guys

1258
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: to talk about the injury aspect. And secondly, Maddie, I

1259
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: want you to know this is your fellow alumnus at

1260
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: Missoo j School and I want to know whether you're

1261
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: rooting from Missoo or Tennessee in the SEC. Well, you

1262
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: know what, if it's in the SEC, if they're playing

1263
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: against each other, I gotta go with my alum Nigh family,

1264
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: which is going to be from Miszoo. So thanks for

1265
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: calling in, though, oh gosh, I don't want to bore

1266
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: people with that, and you know, and you don't want

1267
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: to hear Maya singing a voice. It's not that good.

1268
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: That's what do you think, Steve? In terms of the injury, yeah,

1269
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: you're right, you know, and that's something we forget about

1270
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: because I think it's so much out of everybody's control.

1271
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: There's no question the bills through the sports science department here,

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Speaker 1: the health and the strength conditioning programs, the way they

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Speaker 1: work together, the recovery, the recovery facilities they have here

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Speaker 1: that are available to every single not just the top

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Speaker 1: flight player. Fact that we have a sports science program now,

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: they've got a recovery unit here that is second to

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Speaker 1: none of the NFL. That to me, is vital to

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Speaker 1: their success because he's right, the healthier these guys are,

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Speaker 1: the better they play. And I said it last year,

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Speaker 1: it's not this in this building. The real genius of this,

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Speaker 1: you know, they just two years ago they built this

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Speaker 1: twenty two million dollar facility. It's it's as much about

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01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, so it is it's infrastructure, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: weight room. It looks awesome. They can use it for

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a multi use thing where they can

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Speaker 1: hold meetings in there, they can have walkthroughs in there.

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Speaker 1: It's man with all the recovery stuff, from nappods to cryogenics,

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: to acupuncture, to massus's to sleep pods, everything. Everything's got

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: a cryo chamber, a hyperbaric chamber. It's got everything in there.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just that they got people who staff

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Speaker 1: that facility who are top notch in helping the players

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: address whatever aches and pains and hurts they've got get

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Speaker 1: in it. So in that respect, what happens is not

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Speaker 1: only do the players are healthy to play on Sunday,

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01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: they're also feeling good enough to practice on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 1: so they're prepared to play well. They don't just sit

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines and watch practice from a knee And

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: while they're trying to get healthy, they're healthy enough to

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Speaker 1: practice because they recover faster, quicker, and more. Completely, all

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Speaker 1: of that stuff goes into the fact that it's one

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: of the one of the healthiest rosters in the league

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01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: last year and have been for the last couple of years.

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: Is not by accident. You can say it is, but

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01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: it's not. Now. Injuries are different than aches and pains

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: and exhaustion and workload and all that. But the GPS

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01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: stuff they have and they are absolutely on top of it.

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: You're never going to escape injuries. But Mike from Hilton

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01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: Head is right. Healthiest teams are the ones that go

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: the furthest late in the year. Now you can make

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: you you can pave the way by winning games early

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: and giving yourself a margin of varius. So if you

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: get guys hurt, they can get healthy and kind of

1313
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: you can hang in there until everybody's healthy. Again for

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: the playoffs, that happens once in a while. But the

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: healthiest teams are the ones that go deep, and the

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: Bills were one of those teams last year. Mike, thanks

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Speaker 1: for calling in. Yeah, I completely agree with that. I

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: think another aspect of it is also what the strength

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: staff does before the season and throughout the season to

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: keep the players bodies in the right shape. You know,

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: there's stuff that you can do injury prevention wise in

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: the weight room that sets you up for the season

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: that you can do before a week one kicks off

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01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: and then these players are lifting throughout the week. It's

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: not as heavy as in the off season, but there's

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Speaker 1: things that you do to manage what's going on with

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01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: your body in season. I also think the coaching staff

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01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: does a great job of trusting the veterans on the

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: team and giving them rest days when they need it

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01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: and not forcing guys to do more than they need

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: to do during the season, especially when you get towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. This year we'll be playing

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01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: another regular season game, so weeks fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen.

1334
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: Given these guys a break when they need one, maybe

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: not going every single day on practice. And I think

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01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: the trust aspect of that too is in there with

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01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: how their bodies feel, communicating that to the coaching staff,

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: to the trainers, to the strength coaches, and when your

1339
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: communication is on par, you're a well oiled machine. And

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01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: they've got more hard evans to give credence to what

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: the players feel like. And so it's used to be,

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01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, in my era, it's like, I don't know,

1343
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: I feel funky today, I don't know what the deal is.

1344
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I'll trying to fight through it.

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Whatever you'd go do it, get out there now. They say, yeah,

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01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: you're feeling funky because you ran twenty percent more than

1347
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: you have at any point this you know, this season,

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01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: yesterday because you were having to take extra reps and

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01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: so today you're doing this. Not you're not practicing fully,

1350
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: but you are doing this, So take this or today

1351
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: you're taking a knee, you're not taking any reps. Um.

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01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: It's hard evidence and data that tells him like, yeah,

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: you know what, he should be feeling funky because he'd

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: had an extra workload this week because we forgot you know,

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: for instance, Dane Jackson comes in, he said, Man, I

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: feel I feel funky today. He said, well, yeah you

1357
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: should because you took all of Levi Wallace's reps yesterday

1358
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: because Levi's got a twisted ankle. So now you're feeling funky,

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's hard evidence that

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: gives the coaches like, oh, yeah, you know what, he's right,

1361
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: because what happens if Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson go down, right,

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: So now you are stuck with a hole in your roster.

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: You got nobody played corner. So that kind of hard

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01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: evidence and technology and the fact that you got people

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: who know what to do with it, and a coaching

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01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: staff who will listen to those people. Yeah, that's key.

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Speaker 1: There's coaches in the NFL right now that do not,

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Speaker 1: like I don't believe in that stuff and don't think

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: it's a competitive advantage and don't have a sports science

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01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: department on their staff. You've got the coach. Not every

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: single NFL team has that to think about it. You

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01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: got still newer in you can think about old guys

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: like me. It's like, what do you mean you feel funky?

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01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: Get out there? Yeah? Right? Not today? Like what do

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: you mean like, oh we had yeah, okay, all right, yeah,

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: we'll hold him out today. That's a truth. That's a thing.

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01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: That's the thing. You can all remember the old coach

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: from back in the day when you're in grade school

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01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: or you know, for me, is at a higher level,

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 1: but we're the days just hey, two days aren't what

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01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: they're supposed to feel bad. Let's two days, let's go,

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: you know. So, um, there's something to all of that

1383
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: and the technologies they have, the people who man it,

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: and the fact that the coaching staff knows how important

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: it is and listens to those people and trusts them

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01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: keep them healthier through the season. That's a that's a

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01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: good call by Mike. Yeah, good point. It all plays

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01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: into why this team could be so good for twenty

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01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: twenty one. You got to have health on your side.

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: I think that's number one on the list when you

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: get into the season, is those big injuries to those

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01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: key players. It can't happen, and if it does, it

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 1: can't They can't be out for long. I think Matt

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01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: Mlano and his injury didn't help us during the season.

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 1: The offensive line and their injuries didn't help us. Thank

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: God for depth on this team and the depth that

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: we will have this season, But you got to have

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01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: health on your side in order to make it far.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. When we come back

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Speaker 1: more on One Bill's Live. We've got Bill Barnwell from

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01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: ESPN coming up at two o'clock. Stick with us here

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Clyde to Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back into One Bills Live, Mattie Glabs,

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. We're going to jump into our Twitter poll

1405
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Twitter question that we have going on. If the Bills

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01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: win their first Super Bowl this year, it will be

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: because of what Josh Allen in an MVP season, a

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: top five defense, that's unstoppable, home field advantage in the playoffs,

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: being the number one seed, or something else. We have

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01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: five defense winning. That's that was your vote too, That

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Speaker 1: was my room. Now tell me the job. Were you

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: a front running when you voted? Did you see the

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: I did not vote myself, But remember number early Number

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01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: one was Josh Allen and an MVP season that that

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01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: took the cake. The jumped up fast. I said, Bills,

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: get on the one seed. You like the home field advantage.

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely for someone who's been there before

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: and been a part of home field advantage, you get

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: it and you think that would help a lot. It

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01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: really helps. It also says something about your team. Well,

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01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 1: only twelve point three percent of people agree with you, Steve,

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01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? I am undeterred. I

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01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: will that's a hill I'll die on. I'm the number

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01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: one See it means you're the best team in the

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: conference of the regular season, a seventeen game season, by

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: the way, and you're the number one seed. That means

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01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: a couple of teams have banged the Chiefs up at

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: least a couple Unless you're seventeen to o, which I'll

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: take that as well. That means you beat the Chiefs

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01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: once as well too, so and be okay with that.

1431
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: And what happens if if you're seventeen or sixteen and

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: one and the loss you had was to the Chiefs

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: and they're coming and they have to come back here

1434
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: because they dropped to two others, like you know, for

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: whatever reason, you got the one seed and they have

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01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: to come back here to play you after going there

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: and getting beat for your only loss of the season.

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Speaker 1: And well, you went through the last yesterday. I was

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01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna say last week yesterday, we were talking about the

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: schedule and you went through. You said, what worst case scenario,

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: we win eleven games? Worst case That's that's where I'm

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01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: at today. That's where I'm at today. Best case it's

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01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: north of north of fourteen fourteen, right, I would like that.

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01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: It's It's true though, I mean, Glija Willikers. I mean,

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: this is the schedule is not the same schedule that

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: the Bills plowed through last year. And you can say, well,

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: you might think why they should have gotten beat by

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: the Rams and but but they should have beaten Arizona.

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: You know, they beat that team. So I'm you know,

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm this is thirteen wins is a giant season. Yeah,

1451
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: and I think it can happen this year with this team.

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01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: With the schedule that they're playing, their tough stretches aren't

1453
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: as long, and in my opinion aren't going to be

1454
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: as tough as they were last season. I think this

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01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: team is taking a step forward. You could make the

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01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: same case for teams on our schedule who are going

1457
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: to be playing against that are getting better as well.

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: The stretch of the season that's rough, there's two of

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01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: maybe stretches of games. It's the Kansas City, Tennessee Miami

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: stretch because that's because and I put Miami in there

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01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: because their division. It'll be the second second time you've

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Speaker 1: played them folloween game, right, that's kind of right, and

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01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: the buy is mixed in there. But the real schedules,

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01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: the real tough stretch, are the four weeks between eleven

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: and fourteen. Eleven Indianapolis Colts at home, then they go

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: to New Orleans on Thanksgiving, then they've go then they've

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: got New England at home for the first time this

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Speaker 1: during the season. They're going to see New England Patriots,

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: and then of course they go to Tampa Bay and

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Speaker 1: the world defending world champions. One thing, one thing I

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Speaker 1: don't like about our schedule. I don't like that we

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01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: see the Patriots for the first time December sixth. Why

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: is that. I would have liked to have seen them

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier in the season because I think

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01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: this that roster has a good amount of stuff figure out,

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: i e. Quarterback position, probably going to have that figured

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: out in the early part of the season, but getting

1478
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 1: stuff down the chemistry, I think is not going to

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01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: come on maybe until the second half of the season.

1480
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: We know Bill Belichick, He's always going to put up

1481
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: a fight. I mean the games that we played against

1482
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: them last year. I know we won both, But that

1483
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: first win against the Patriots last season came because we

1484
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: forced to fumble. Justin Zimmer forced to fumble and Dean

1485
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: Marlow recovered it with less than two minutes left in

1486
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: that game. It all counts, though, it all cares, just

1487
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: like the hail Murray counts. You know it all came.

1488
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: That popped up on my Twitter again today. Somebody tweeted

1489
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: two great photos from Sports in the Past Year award

1490
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: winning photo and that was on my Twitter timeline think

1491
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,560
Speaker 1: about this though, the Bills. I think you talk about it.

1492
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot had never eaten Bill Belichick in the three

1493
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: years prior to last year. He was like oh and

1494
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: six against him. So he goes in there and they

1495
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: get that punch out and they finally get that little

1496
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: monkey off mcdermot's back and the team's back. Well, then

1497
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: now that they did that, it's like, all right, Then

1498
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: they go in there and beat him thirty nine nine

1499
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. They beat They thump, they'd beat

1500
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: him bad. I think that was a real moment. I

1501
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: was a little nervous for that second. I was two.

1502
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: I was too. You know, we got a lot of

1503
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 1: scar tissue from the page. They've beaaten us when they

1504
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: shouldn't have beaten us, even when we didn't weren't very good.

1505
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I had real questions about

1506
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: that game. But man oh man, they lumped him up,

1507
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: and I think that was I think that was a

1508
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: turning point in the for a lot of people in

1509
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: their perception about Sean McDermott and what they were building

1510
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,879
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. And I think that maybe Bill Belichick

1511
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that it was a kind

1512
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: of a revelation to this was going to be a

1513
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: different kind of ball game from here on out. And

1514
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: then what did he do in the offseason. He threw

1515
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: money every to put together tougher roster. I have a

1516
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: hard time thinking after the game that Josh Allen put

1517
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 1: together against New England, plus the games that they had

1518
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: leading up to that. It was Week sixteen that they

1519
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: played sixteen, thirty eight to nine, thirty eight to nine,

1520
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: they beat him. Um, I think Bill Belichick probably knew

1521
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: going into that game, the thirty eight to nine win

1522
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: by the Bills on Monday Night football in Foxborough. He

1523
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: knew Josh Allen was the guy. I mean, he was

1524
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: a stud and they played like that, and I think

1525
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: he knew this off seat. I think he'd proved that

1526
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: that less than this offseason. We said, he, if we're

1527
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna beat these guys, we're gonna have to score points.

1528
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a couple of tight end wideouts, and

1529
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: we got to start keeping up. If we're gonna keep

1530
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: up with that team that beat us thirty eight to nine,

1531
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: we got to score points because that guy they're taking

1532
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: snaps for them is special. I think that was I

1533
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: think that was evident in their philosophy in the off

1534
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: season of what they did in free agency. They kind

1535
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: of they could and I agreed with them, they could

1536
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: probably count on their opt outs coming back defensively to

1537
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: help them a little bit. Got Van Noy back, Yes,

1538
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: got Carras back from the from the Dolphins. They got

1539
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: a couple of guys back who really helped them, who

1540
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: would really help them or solidify their roster. But they

1541
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: knew they had to get really better on the offensive

1542
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And I'm because I, yeah, I

1543
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: think they know what they were looking at when they

1544
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: were getting ready for that game against Buffalo late in

1545
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: a season and they had no answers that night. Yeah,

1546
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: they had eight opt outs this past season that did

1547
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: not help them, quite a few guys on their defense,

1548
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: and then some players on their offense as well. So

1549
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: we know that team's gonna look better, and we know

1550
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: they're on the Bills schedule twice starting in December. So

1551
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: that's a game that I'm looking at, and that's a

1552
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: game that I'm looking forward to for the competition between

1553
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: both of those teams, because I do think the Patriots

1554
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: are going to be better this season. I'll tell you.

1555
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: I I yeah, the opt outs were huge, and I

1556
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: think I feel what you're saying about. You know that

1557
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: it's late in the year, week thirteen before you see

1558
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 1: him for the first time, and they're gonna know, we're

1559
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna kind of they're gonna have their identity set. So

1560
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a really tough game. We

1561
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: see both Dolphins games are gone long before you even

1562
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: see the Patriots. So in fact, both Dolphins games are

1563
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: gone before you see the Jets or the Patriots. Yeah,

1564
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: Dolphins games are gone right before November, right, Um, Yeah,

1565
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: I know what you mean that the Patriots are going

1566
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: to be a different animal in the minds of Bills fans.

1567
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: I think until Bill Belichick is you know, in a

1568
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: rocking chair by the fireplace and or with a steak

1569
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: through his heart, whichever you prefer, you know, you know,

1570
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: so I'm joking, of course, but the Yeah, as long

1571
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: as Belichick is there and in that organization, they're gonna

1572
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna hold a special place in the in the

1573
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: angst of Bills fans. Second year without Tom Brady, I

1574
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: feel like he also wants to prove something that they

1575
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't prove this past season. It's compelling because we've talked

1576
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: about this before as well. The Patriots that the game

1577
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: they've got, um, let's see, yeah, the game they've got

1578
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: Week four. We've talked about when's when's Mac Jones gonna

1579
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: take over that kind of thing. The Patriots host Tampa

1580
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:51,919
Speaker 1: Bay week four of the season, October third. The quarterback

1581
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 1: dynamic in that game is really going to be something

1582
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: I want to see the Is Mac Jones gonna really

1583
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: take on Tom Brady on a Monday night football game

1584
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: in Foxborough when Brady is not with the Patriots as

1585
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: a rookie? Can you imagine a more pressure packed moment

1586
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: for a quarterback that's not a super Bowl or something

1587
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: like that. I can't imagine at this point. Maybe it'll

1588
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: change by then, but I can't imagine at this point

1589
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: that that would happen. Yeah. I don't think that's going

1590
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: to be the first If Mac Jones is there, guy

1591
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: he's playing before, that can't be his first game. No, no, no, no,

1592
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: no no. There's way too much mentality that goes but

1593
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: mental stuff that goes into that game. What if he

1594
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: started on opening day plays against the Miami Dolphins for

1595
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Then he goes and plays for

1596
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: the for the New England Patriots against the Jets. You know,

1597
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins come into Foxborough opening day. You throw your

1598
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: guy Mac Jones out there against Tuah. I can see

1599
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: that happen. Patriots saying we can beat that guy. Then

1600
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: at the Jets, our Mac Jones against Zach. We'll take

1601
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: our guy against Zach Wilson. He can beat that guy.

1602
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: We can beat them. Then the Saints, that's Jamis. I

1603
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: would say the Saints is your first a good defense.

1604
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: If you look at it like that, it's like they

1605
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: gotta be sitting up there in foxbur We're going you know,

1606
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: this might be the perfect time to start a rookie quarterback.

1607
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: You got like almost two of them on the first

1608
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: two weeks of the season that you're playing against. So

1609
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: your guy gets off, maybe get a two and oh start.

1610
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: And then you go into New Orleans at home. You

1611
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: get them at home, and they're not gonna have Drew Brees.

1612
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have Jameis Winston or Taysom Hill. We'll be

1613
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: all right again. They won't score them many points against

1614
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: our defense. Then you got Tampa Bay. Then that's the

1615
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: question mark, what you're gonna do against that guy. You're

1616
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: not gonna just chalk it up as a loss and

1617
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: say I just get through it, you know, or we're

1618
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna say, okay, this game, Mac, you've you're

1619
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: three and oz after beating the Dolphins, the Jets and

1620
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: the Saints. You're three and oh. But we're gonna sit

1621
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 1: you down and let Cam play against Tom do that

1622
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: it could happen. If that won't happen because he's not

1623
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: gonna be three and oh and then get benched. Hey

1624
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: but it is Bill Belichick. But that's that's I could

1625
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: see that happening. That's the one that would be because

1626
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: two of would virtually be a rookie in his first game,

1627
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, with he has an extra offseason. Is the

1628
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: only thing I would think, Yeah, you'd like your chances

1629
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: if you're Bill Belichick in that game against Tah knowing

1630
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: what you know about him already, and then the second

1631
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: game the Jets, your guy Zach Wilson against your guy.

1632
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: You gotta think our guys better. You know, we're gonna

1633
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 1: be able to do more against him with our roster

1634
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: than they're gonna do against our guy with their roster.

1635
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: So to me, this is kind of screaming that Mac

1636
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: Jones gonna be there and Cam won't. Patriots first four

1637
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: weeks are going to be intriguing, very intriguing. I'll be

1638
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: paying attention for sure. Now they'll they'll know I mean,

1639
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm not surprising. Bill Belichick likes certain players

1640
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: and you know all that night. But that's gonna be

1641
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: really intriguing for me to watch who there's who's taking

1642
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 1: SNAs F one because Bill Bonichick. The only reason Cam's

1643
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 1: there's because Bill likes him for whatever reason. Because he

1644
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: can't play. He's not Cam Newton twenty fifteen. He's not

1645
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: even clothes, so unfortunately he's not well. All right, break

1646
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: time for us. Don't go anywhere, because when we come back,

1647
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna have ESPN's Bill Barnwell on with us talking

1648
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: about the twenty eighteen QB draft. Class Stick with us here,

1649
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,879
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Claude Health. This is Buffalo

1650
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. We are back on One Bill's Live. Maddie Glabs,

1651
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. We've got ESPN's Bill Barnwell coming up at

1652
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: two o clock. In just a couple of short minutes

1653
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: to talk about the twenty eighteen QB draft class, does

1654
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: and evaluations. But before we take a break, we're going

1655
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: to dip back into the tweet sheet, which is brought

1656
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

1657
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. If the Bills win their

1658
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl this year, it will be because of

1659
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: what Eli says. It will be because of A, B

1660
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: and C so Josh Allen MVP, top five defense, and

1661
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the playoffs, and because of that,

1662
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: they will be the best team in the league. Also

1663
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: will be the team carrying the momentum the last few

1664
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: weeks of the season into the playoffs. Momentum is real,

1665
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: asked Tampa Bay Bucks when they clicked they won it all.

1666
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can do all three, right,

1667
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a tall task. Well, if

1668
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: all three of those things come to pass, super Bowl

1669
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: is a better ha fad, A complete almost right, I

1670
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: mean that's a Swiss. It's got a You got the

1671
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: MVP of the league, of top five defense and home

1672
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: field advantage going through the playoffs. If that would be crazy.

1673
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Anything less is a disappointment. Yeah, Yeah, all three of

1674
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: those things is quite a bit. We'll do one where

1675
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Nick t says if we win the Super Bowl, I

1676
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be because our defense returns to its twenty

1677
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: nineteen form. They don't even need to be top five.

1678
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: We won fifteen games last year with the defense that

1679
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: took a step back and was inconsistent. If they improve

1680
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: this year, there's no stopping us. Nick T. I'm right

1681
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: there with you. I think twenty nineteen form would be

1682
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: pretty great for this defense. Yeah, no question, that's it'll

1683
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: make a big difference. You're gonna see They're gonna see

1684
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 1: a lot of desperate offenses. If our offense plays the

1685
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: way it did last year, teams are going to really

1686
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,440
Speaker 1: be behind the eight ball, trying to manage their possessions,

1687
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 1: trying to stay on the field and score points. And

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01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: if your defense doesn't allow that to happen, not too

1689
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: many teams can dig out of that hole. Yeah, that

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01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: is for sure. One other thing that's for sure. We've

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01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: got Bill Barnwell coming up in a couple minutes here

1692
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: at two o'clock, so that means we have got to

1693
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: take a break to make sure he's on with us.

1694
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere one Bills Live, presented by Clyde Health.

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01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. We'll be right back at

1696
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Speaker 1: a Steep Tasker who has spread all over the creels.

1697
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual roll

1698
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: of pleasure free Stave abolutely, Steve a blimp. We're not

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Speaker 1: even in the threaded beard of normalcy. Our number three

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Speaker 1: of one Bills Live on this Wednesday afternoon, Mattie glab

1701
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: in for Chris Brown alongside Steve Tasker. We've got our

1702
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 1: Twitter question, our poll, which is if the Bills win

1703
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: there's first Super Bowl, it would be because of Josh

1704
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: Allen in an MVP season, a top five defense, number

1705
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: one seed in the playoffs, or other. So make sure

1706
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: you had to Twitter to give us your response or

1707
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: give us call at eight o three oh five fifty.

1708
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: We've been teasing the fact that Bill Barnwell would come

1709
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: on at two o'clock. We're going to get into his

1710
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,799
Speaker 1: article that he wrote on the twenty eighteen quarterback draft class,

1711
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: which kind of dives into the twenty eighteen group, what

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01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: they did in their first couple of seasons projections for

1713
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. How this group, at first it was

1714
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: Baker and then it was Lamar and now it's Josh Allen.

1715
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Is it going to change again for twenty twenty one?

1716
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: Are we going to see Baker, Lamar or Josh take

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01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: another step forward here in their fourth season? So we're

1718
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 1: gonna go right to Bill Barnwell from ESPN. Bill, thanks

1719
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: for taking the time to be with us. And we've

1720
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: been talking about the article that you released today about

1721
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen draft class, and it's really interesting to

1722
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: see some of the index metrics that you used to

1723
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: make this article and in the case that you make

1724
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen this season that he had last year

1725
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and what could happen with this team in twenty twenty,

1726
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 1: you know, diving into this article more just general thoughts.

1727
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: Was it intriguing and interesting for you to kind of

1728
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: get into the first year some of these quarterbacks and

1729
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: how they've progressed in their first three seasons, especially some

1730
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 1: who have jumped out to a quick lead and then

1731
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: some of them who have regressed already in their first

1732
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 1: three years as quarterbacks of the NFL. Yeah, I mean

1733
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I've ptt to have these guys after each season, and

1734
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: so I've really sort of given some thought to, you know,

1735
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: how our opinions, how our feelings have changed. And you know,

1736
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: for so many of these guys, it's been just dramatic

1737
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: changes year year. Lamar Jackson pretty consistently good. Baker Mayfield,

1738
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean last year, Baker Mayfield was a mess. Even

1739
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: Josh Allen last year. You know, I think major strides

1740
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: shown in twenty nineteen. But I think still there's a

1741
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: lot of skepticists and that he was going to be

1742
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: an NFL caliber starting quarterback. And I was one of

1743
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 1: those skeptics, and I very clearly I am wrong. I mean,

1744
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was awesome in twenty twenty, and I think

1745
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: draftly changed kind of the range of possible outcomes from

1746
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: him moving forward. And I think that, you know, one

1747
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: important thing to keep in mind that was just how

1748
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: dramatically things can change in a year. I mean, who

1749
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: would have imagined not only the Josh Allen would have

1750
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 1: been a top three quarterback last year, but then on

1751
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: top of that that, guys like Carson Wentz and Jared

1752
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: Goff franchise icons. You know, guys who were vocal points

1753
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: of those teams are gonna get traded. So I mean,

1754
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: so much can change from year to year, but I think,

1755
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, looking at Josh Allen's performance, looking at these

1756
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: quarterback performance, it's really been fascinating to see how things

1757
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: have changed year after year. Yeah, it was really a

1758
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,560
Speaker 1: deep dive by you into what these guys looked like

1759
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: on film and some of the statistics that have a

1760
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: company quarterbacks and a lot of these statistics are you know,

1761
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty mine steeped in minutia a little bit,

1762
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: but there is a lot of information in there. And

1763
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna ask you how much because you look at

1764
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and he's been a little bit of a

1765
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: roller coaster. Right with Freddie Kitchens now Stefanski, and before

1766
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens it was it was a different head coach,

1767
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: but Kitchens was the offensive coordinator. So Baker Mayfield has

1768
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,799
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a roller coaster. Lamar Jackson

1769
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: has been m was went from being behind Joe Flacco

1770
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 1: sort of with Joe Flacco and then an MVP, and

1771
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: then last year not an MVP, and then of course

1772
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That has been a steady, stare step of

1773
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: a climb to what you said he's been. He played

1774
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: at an elite level last year, how do you how

1775
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: much do you lend to the players and their hard work,

1776
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: and how much is the environment around them? You know,

1777
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: you gotta figure it's so valuable when it comes to

1778
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: that environment. And look at Josh Rosen, right, I mean,

1779
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen comes into the NFL as a better prospect

1780
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: in most circles than Lamar Jackson. I was gonna win MVP,

1781
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: we know. Two years later and Josh Rosen comes in

1782
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: with a coach who's won and done in Steve Willips,

1783
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: a offensive line that is a mess. He has had

1784
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: five backup linemen that first season in Arisota for most

1785
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: of his time as a starter, a receiving corps that

1786
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: was not doing all that well. He gets traded to Miami,

1787
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,879
Speaker 1: a team that has another terrible offensive line that's tanking

1788
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: essentially when it comes to their season a mess. I mean,

1789
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 1: two organizations were just wrong fit, wrong time and doesn't developed.

1790
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: Of course the players matter, of course, you know, if

1791
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 1: you put Josh Allen into a different situation, things that'd

1792
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: be different. But Josh Allen still going to be maybe

1793
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. But I think he's so blessed to

1794
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 1: end up in Buffalo, and it's not a knock on him,

1795
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: It's not a knock on anybody. It's just the reality

1796
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: of the Bill has done a great job of building

1797
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: around Josh Allen from that first season where his top

1798
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: receiver as Robert Foster, a guy who's not even I

1799
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 1: think in the league right now. The offensive line was

1800
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: a mess. They invested so much of that offensive line,

1801
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: and then of course adding the receivers one by one

1802
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 1: and then getting Stefon Diggs to sort of top out

1803
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: the bunch. I mean, he said everything you could add before,

1804
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: and then on top of that has worked really hard

1805
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: and played at a high level, and I think that

1806
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: it's been great for him, just like having Greg Roman,

1807
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 1: who's a very run heavy, a very creative running mine

1808
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson's work. So I think it's a real

1809
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: lesson in just you know, talent's talent, and guys are

1810
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: going to succeed or fail. But I think you can

1811
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: get the most out of those guys if you do

1812
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: have the right people around them. And I think that

1813
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Allen and Jackson and Baker Mayfield as well this past

1814
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: year are really the examples of that. We've talked at

1815
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: length today just about the jump that Josh Allen took

1816
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty in the jump that

1817
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: he could take in twenty twenty one, maybe more of

1818
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: a small step forward, I think is what a lot

1819
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: of us are thinking. We know a jump like he

1820
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 1: did last year is not something that's going to happen

1821
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty one, and we know that he

1822
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: could take a step back in twenty twenty one. You know,

1823
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 1: you can't predict the future. And in this article you

1824
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: say quarterbacks who grow as dramatically as Allen did last

1825
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: season often take a step backward the following year. But

1826
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: in your next off you say, but there's also a

1827
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: good case that Alan could even get better in twenty

1828
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: twenty one with the guys that he has around him,

1829
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: when you look at his weapons and his offensive line.

1830
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: So with the deep dive that you did into Josh

1831
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Allen in his first three seasons in the NFL, do

1832
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: you think he could take a small step forward here

1833
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: in season number four? Yeah, I think it's not out

1834
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: of the question at all, because, I mean, so many

1835
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: people are coming back when Brian daball is maybe going

1836
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: to leave. Certainly a lot of people thought he was

1837
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: going to be a head coach. Well, he stays to

1838
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: find fags this back. Emmanuel Sanders is a placed one

1839
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,560
Speaker 1: of the few guys who left in John Brown. But

1840
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is still a useful veteran receiver. Gabriel Davis,

1841
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: of course, the young player coming into a second year.

1842
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: There's been rumors about, you know, Zach ERT's coming to

1843
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: upgrade a tight end. That could be another weapon for

1844
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen he didn't have a year ago. And then

1845
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 1: of course you bring back Daryl Williams, you bring back

1846
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: towns Lais down, and you keep posts that line intact.

1847
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he has pretty much every key component of

1848
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: last year's team all around him, and I think that

1849
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: has to be impossive. And I think you know, the

1850
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 1: funny thing is you can say, well, Josh Allen might

1851
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: deplin next year, and look at history most guys who

1852
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: improved as much as Josh Allen did. I mean, the

1853
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: names are incredible. It's Joe Montana, Brett barr Ken, Anderson Carson,

1854
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: went Drew bled to Joe Sisman. I mean, hall of

1855
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: famers for very good quarterbacks for a long time at

1856
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,759
Speaker 1: the NFL level. Both of them took a step backwards,

1857
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 1: but even if that happens, Josh Allen can still be

1858
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. Like, you know, it's not as

1859
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: if he's just on the principis of being a good

1860
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 1: quarterback in any step backwards would be dangerous. Like if

1861
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's three to five percent worse next year, he's

1862
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: still a Pro Bowl. I mean, that's how good he

1863
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: went last year. He can give up a little bit

1864
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: and still be a really valuable player. So of course,

1865
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: like anything, you know, if they lose the Undawkins, if

1866
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 1: they lose the fun days that you know Allen gets

1867
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: hurt or the candids breakdown because it's hurt, you know,

1868
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff want to play. But the days of

1869
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: worrying about Josh Allen like he's not going to be

1870
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: an NFL caliber starter, I think those days are over right.

1871
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I think that's just floritha point is a pretty good

1872
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback and when we know his ceiling is MVP

1873
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: candidate or maybe even straight up MVP. Yeah. And it's

1874
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: interesting because here's the problem if Josh Allen, I don't

1875
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 1: think it's possible for Josh Allen to take a step

1876
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: forward as big as he took last year. Right, I

1877
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: don't even I've never seen a quarterback play that well.

1878
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: He's just too good, right, I mean he was too

1879
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 1: good last year, right, Yeah, he was too good last

1880
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: year to play significantly better this year. So what are

1881
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the realistic expectations? Certainly a regression is would be okay,

1882
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: still be really good, even if he only you know,

1883
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 1: if you through you know, even if he was the same,

1884
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: he'd be really good. But or you know, get you know,

1885
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: tougher to complete pass, his teams are kind of got

1886
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: a better handle on the offense. Whatever the case may be,

1887
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: there's no way anybody can realistically think Josh Allen's going

1888
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: to take an enormous step forward from what he was

1889
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 1: a year ago. I mean, if you take from an

1890
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: armor step forward, he's going to be the greatest quarterback

1891
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: who ever lived. So that's a good thing to worry about,

1892
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the strategy took forward. But

1893
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it's more about just

1894
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: refining things, right. You know, it's not going to be

1895
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: about him suddenly developing his footwork, because his footwork is

1896
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 1: great now, it's a problem two years ago it is

1897
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,439
Speaker 1: top level. Now you see him setting and resetting outside

1898
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 1: the pocket. He's so good at, you know, finding a

1899
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: comfortable throwing lane and hitting those throws, whether it's you know,

1900
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: from a different armang or whether it's side arm, whether

1901
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: it's over the top, whether it's traditional. I mean, he

1902
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: is so much more confident and fluid with his motions now,

1903
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, it's just more about refining things.

1904
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen could be a little better in the right zone,

1905
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: he could be a little better, you know, on third times.

1906
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 1: He's still really good at those situations. But you know,

1907
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 1: I think it's just little things here and there that

1908
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: he could pick up on. And by all accounts, Josh

1909
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Allen is a super hard worker. So I mean, there's

1910
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: every reason to think that he's going to be the

1911
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback who will continue to improve. But at

1912
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, at this level,

1913
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the difference between your numbers being better or

1914
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: work might come down to three or four passes over

1915
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: the course of the entire season. I think Josh Allen,

1916
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 1: in terms of his talent, in terms of his skill level,

1917
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: is going to be at the same place whether he

1918
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 1: was a year ago. I don't think the numbers really matter.

1919
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: All that much when you're at this higher level he

1920
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: has a seventy percent completion percentage or a sixty eight

1921
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage. I don't think it makes a huge difference,

1922
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: but in terms of that skill level, in terms of

1923
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 1: that talent, knowing that you have a quarterback who can

1924
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: keep me in the game every week, who can win

1925
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: you games in the fourth quarter, and who can win

1926
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: a shootout possibly with the Chiefs in the postseason, that's

1927
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 1: something very few teams have and that those have to

1928
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: feel thrilled about ending into twenty twenty one. And when

1929
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: we talk about the possibility of Josh Allen maybe taking

1930
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 1: that tiny step forward in accuracy or in those couple

1931
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 1: throws from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, maybe some

1932
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: of his decision making. And then you look at a

1933
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: contract extension, do you think it's in the Bill's best

1934
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: interest to get that done now or wait for him

1935
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: to possibly even take another step forward, and then you're thinking, oh, dang,

1936
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: we have to pay him even more because he had

1937
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: an even better season or the team looked even better

1938
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 1: as a whole. We talked about that contract extension yesterday

1939
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 1: on the show, and also what it could look like

1940
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: if it could be more of a Patrick Mahomes type

1941
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: extension where it's it's long and it's team friendly at times,

1942
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: or if it's going to work week something like the

1943
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: Cowboys did and with Dak If it could be a

1944
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: shorter where you get paid a lot up front. What

1945
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: would you do if you were with the Buffalo Bills

1946
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 1: trying to sign this guy to an extension. Yeah, I

1947
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: think you look at the Prescott deal. I mean, the

1948
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes contract is scary, but obviously, you know, I think

1949
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to disparage sash Out because he just

1950
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: had an awesome season. But Patrick Mahomes is, to me,

1951
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: you know, a tier to himself. Patrick Mahomes had an

1952
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: MVP and a Super Bowl MVP by the time he

1953
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 1: got that deal done with the Chief. I would look

1954
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: at the Prescott deal. Four years at one hundred and

1955
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: sixty million, it's probably going to cost you a little more.

1956
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 1: It might be one sixty four, one sixty five. You know,

1957
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be maybe in that ballpark and maybe

1958
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:58,680
Speaker 1: Cashallens says, hey, I want to take a discount. I

1959
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: want to keep guys around. Out of the question, I

1960
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame him for taking you know, every dollar he deserves,

1961
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: because I think he deserves a big contract. Studient now

1962
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 1: is better just because you have more runway to work with.

1963
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 1: You have two years left on Josh Allen's where he

1964
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: deal the fourth year of his an initial contract and

1965
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: then that fifth year option, and having those two years

1966
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: allows you to keep the cap hit down for the deal,

1967
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 1: gives you more run way to work with over the

1968
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: course of the entire contracts. I give the big signing bonus,

1969
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: you can spread that over five years. That gives you

1970
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 1: more time and lets you to keep those cap hits

1971
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: down and lets you add more players around around Josh

1972
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Allen in the years to come. I mean, obviously there's

1973
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 1: going to have to be some sacrifices here and there,

1974
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's going to go from making you know,

1975
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: five six million dollars a year to fourty million dollars

1976
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 1: a year. You're going to have to account for that somewhere.

1977
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: But the best way to do that when you have

1978
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: a guy who you trust is going to be part

1979
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: of your franchise for a long time, is to give

1980
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: him an extension as early as possible. Spread out that

1981
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: signing bonus for as long as possible five years MAPX

1982
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 1: and use that sort of trust to get those contracts

1983
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: down around him, and think that wouldn't be shocked if

1984
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: we saw that contract in August. And I'll tell you,

1985
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: like guys, I mean, history tells us with that Prescott deal,

1986
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: with any contract with quarterbacks, the price only goes up.

1987
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 1: So you know, you might as look at the deal

1988
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: done now because even at Josh Allen does take a

1989
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 1: small step backwards, he's not going to be any cheaper

1990
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: this time next year. If you're if you're betting, I mean,

1991
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: what do you who do you think signs first? Baker Mayfield,

1992
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. Who gets their deal done the fastest.

1993
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I would say Josh, because I

1994
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: think there's difficult factors when it comes to two guys

1995
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson one MVP, and I think that complicates the

1996
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: things because there's not really many comparables for large Jackson.

1997
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 1: The only guy is Patrick Mahomes Adamolt. The Ravens want

1998
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: to do it Patrick Mahomes sized deal with that length

1999
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson just given that as talented us Mr

2000
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Jackson is, he's still a running quarterback, and that is still,

2001
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, a scary proposition, even though I think he's

2002
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: incredibly smart when it comes to protecting his body. But

2003
01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I mean, so inconsistent. Baker Mayfield was, you know,

2004
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 1: took a major step backwards a year or two. You're

2005
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: three much better, for sure, But certainly a guy who

2006
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, is playing in an offense that didn't ask

2007
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,799
Speaker 1: him a throw ball, that frequently a run first offense

2008
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: with a very healthy and effective offensive line. I think

2009
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: we want to see Baker Mayfield be the guy who

2010
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: sort of stirs to drinking Cleveland, the guy who is

2011
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: the you know, who really pushes that team forward, because

2012
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: you haven't really seen again he's really been sort of

2013
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 1: the secondary part of that offense. So to me, Josh Allen,

2014
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: I think kind of the clearest path to an extension.

2015
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 1: And I think of those teams that you know, they've

2016
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: gotten deals done with guys and they've all been pretty good.

2017
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, matm Alloda took less money to stay here.

2018
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,760
Speaker 1: Tudevius White probably took a little bit less money than

2019
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: the market to stay here. You know, Daryl Williams took

2020
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: maybe a little less money than they would have got

2021
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: on to the open market to stay in Buffalo. I mean,

2022
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: so many guys have sort of made those sacrifices. So

2023
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,720
Speaker 1: I think there is a lot of space to work

2024
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: with for the Bills, and I think it just makes

2025
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: so much sense to get this deal done now. So

2026
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if you know, by mid August,

2027
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was the first of this bunch to get

2028
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 1: his contract done. One of the things we were talking about.

2029
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: We had a heated discussion about this for the show

2030
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: went off the year yesterday. If I'm the Brown if

2031
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm Baker Mayfield and his representation, I would not sign

2032
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: any deal. I would go force them into arbage into franchising.

2033
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I would because he has been you know, he's been

2034
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: up and down. And I think Baker can say, hey,

2035
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 1: if if I'm starting, I'm the guy who ended it.

2036
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: If and Baker's leverage is the fact that he's playing

2037
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns, does he want to be the

2038
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: guy that got away? After the twenty five player list

2039
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that went through Cleveland before Baker Mayfield showed up,

2040
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: they were in purgatory for two decades. Baker's got some

2041
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: leverage in that respect. If the Browns let Baker Mayfield

2042
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: walk in any way, shape or fashion, they might not

2043
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: be able to sell a single ticket. So should he

2044
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: maximize that? And if he does sign a deal, is

2045
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: that because he's not willing to bet on himself. I mean,

2046
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,839
Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to the Baker Mayfield situation.

2047
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: As up and down as it's been in Cleveland, his

2048
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: leverage is the fact that he's the only guy that's

2049
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 1: there standing. Yeah, that's very fair. I think you can

2050
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: see both sides of it, right. I think you laid

2051
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: out Baker's argument really well. And we know Baker Mayfield's

2052
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: a confidant guy, and he deserves to be. He's had

2053
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: a lot of success at the college level. At the

2054
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: pro level, I would insult him for being considant. So,

2055
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, if anyone's going to bet on themselves and

2056
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: go year to year later in their contracts, Baker Mayfield

2057
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: might be that guy. Now, I don't know. I've never

2058
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to signs for forty million dollars a year.

2059
01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,600
Speaker 1: Esgen is very generous. They're not, unfortunately that generous to me,

2060
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 1: So you know, I think it'd be tough to turn

2061
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: the money that money down, but I think Baker Mayfield

2062
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: is someone who is extremely confident and half aout of possess.

2063
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: And I think to your point about the Browns, you know,

2064
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: having I was just thinking of that jersey with all

2065
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 1: the names on it. You know, Baker Mayfield has been

2066
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: much better from those guys. Even having two good seasons

2067
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 1: is more than any Brown's quarterback going back to Geez

2068
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe Bernie Cosar. So you know, I think they have

2069
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 1: to feel like Baker is going to be their guy

2070
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: for the next decade, even if he doesn't maybe have

2071
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen side upside. So you know,

2072
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a really fascinating situation.

2073
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,679
Speaker 1: I think it comes down to, you know, both sides.

2074
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 1: They'd be having something to lose, something to game, and

2075
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: having to do sort of a tough negotiation, whereas I

2076
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: think with Josh Allen, you know, I think both parties

2077
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: are on the same page. I think it's so easy

2078
01:48:23,080 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: to get that deal done because I think both parties

2079
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: are really thinking about the same things from the same perspective.

2080
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be a really fascinating situation,

2081
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be shocked if Baker Mayfield, did, you know,

2082
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 1: go a year to year and kind of go slower

2083
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and wait to see what happens and hope that maybe

2084
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: by betting on himself a year or two from now,

2085
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: he does get an even bigger deal, and he would

2086
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: have by signing this contract right now. Looking at the

2087
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: class as a whole, is there a quarterback in the

2088
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft class that you think could take a

2089
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: the biggest step forward here in twenty twenty one based

2090
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 1: on the new environment that they may be in, or

2091
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 1: based on the team that they have around them. Yeah,

2092
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the two guys with Baker and

2093
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 1: Sam Garnald. And again that's just because Josh Allen and

2094
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson have already been so great, you know, I

2095
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: think they can't get that much better than they've already been.

2096
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: And Josh Rosen unfortunately, you know, on a different path

2097
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: at this point, but I think he can make cases

2098
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: for Baker or Sam. Sam Donald of course moving away

2099
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: from the Jets to a Panthers team that has a

2100
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 1: ton of weapon Christian McCaffrey, DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, Terrence

2101
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Marshall a really exciting group of young talents there. Offensive line,

2102
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 1: there's more mixed questions that left tackle, but Taylor Modem

2103
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: there right tackle is one of the best players in

2104
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 1: football at his position, and definitely some talent there up front.

2105
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, of course, with so much success with Joe

2106
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: Burrow in twenty nineteen for LSU. I think that you know,

2107
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald did not do well with the Jets. You

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Speaker 1: can blame that on Adam Gaze, you can blame that

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Speaker 1: on the players around him. I think Sam Donald deserves

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Speaker 1: some of them blame, but hey, this is his chance

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Speaker 1: to prove otherwise. And then I think Baker Mayfield if

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Speaker 1: we've heard about you know guys who have been in

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Speaker 1: that second year in that Shanahan Kubiak style offense. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan one MVP if your years the Falcons in

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Speaker 1: the second year with Kyle Shanahan. Last year it was

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers playing for Matt Lafour and Green Bay where

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Speaker 1: he took a big leap forward in his second season,

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Speaker 1: and one MVP. This is Baker Mayfield second year under

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in that you know, play action heavy outside

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Speaker 1: its own heavy Brown's you know, Kevin Stefanski, Gary Kubiak,

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Speaker 1: Kyl Shanahan, Mike Shanahan offense, and you know, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: could take that leaf. He was much better in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season last year than he was

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Speaker 1: in the first half. So with that extra off season

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Speaker 1: to work with, getting some in person practices for the

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Speaker 1: first time during the off season, you know, Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: could take a huge leap forward. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that you know, he has so much writing on

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Speaker 1: this season, I think more so than even Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: on La March Action, just because I think there's so

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Speaker 1: many different ranges of outcomes for Baker Mayfield where he

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Speaker 1: could be ANFVP candidate, or he could be a guy

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Speaker 1: who struggles like we saw it in twenty nineteen and

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Speaker 1: Sean we don't know if he's the guy for the

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Speaker 1: Browns in the future. So much writing on twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one for Baker Mayfield. Well, speaking of wide range of outcomes,

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Speaker 1: We've got a bunch of rookie quarterbacks who were drafted

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Speaker 1: this last offseason, which how do you think, you know,

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Speaker 1: give us the spectrum of where you think these guys

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Speaker 1: will land, maybe even in the big picture career long

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Speaker 1: and what it looks like for them going forward to

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Speaker 1: hear at the earliest possible stages of their NFL career.

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Speaker 1: How do you think this year is going to turn out,

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Speaker 1: and which one do you think kind of landed Maybe

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Speaker 1: in the best situation. Yeah, I'll call it the best

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01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,600
Speaker 1: situation long term. I gotta go with Trey Lands, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just you know, Kyle Shanahan's track records pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: With some quarterbacks who have not all that great or

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Speaker 1: guys who were decent but you know, not necessarily superstars.

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Speaker 1: He's put together some pretty talented offense. Not Ryan, probably

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Speaker 1: selling him short a little bit, but about Ryan's career

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01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: was revitalized by having Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta, and Tray

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Speaker 1: Lance is going to have a very good offensive line

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01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 1: with Tray william Signs for the long term, they have,

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01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,799
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Glincha and the other side a tackle

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01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: George Kittle of course, a bunch of young white receivers there.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a guy who could grow

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Speaker 1: in the years to come around that impressive offense and

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Speaker 1: with a really creative play callers. So I think Trey

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Speaker 1: Land's kind of landed in the dream situation for a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback in San Francisco in twenty twenty one. Though,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. I wonder if it's going to

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Speaker 1: be Mac Jones where I think Justin Fields is going

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01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: to be very exciting. I think Trevor Lawrence is going

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Speaker 1: to be a guy who impresses quickly, a guy who's,

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Speaker 1: you know what, was already overqualified for the league, maybe

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Speaker 1: after his first college season. I don't know what I

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer's offense and Daryl Bubble's offense is going to

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Speaker 1: look like in Jackson though, that's going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 1: But with Mac Jones, I think the offense is going

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01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:33,600
Speaker 1: to be very simple. You can see a bunch of

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Speaker 1: our pos. You're going to see a bunch of you know,

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01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: play action at a twelve personnel. There's definitely talent there

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots, a very good offensive line, and I

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01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 1: think they're going to try and make his life easy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be the most

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Speaker 1: you know, exciting quarterback when it comes to the numbers.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to have, you know, the Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: style of plays. But I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: an offense that works with Mac Jones under center, and

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Speaker 1: I think that you know you're going to see him

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Speaker 1: probably before the end of September, and I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked if he was successful day one after a new

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the New England Patriots. Yes, since you bring

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Speaker 1: up Mac Jones in this last segment, we went on

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Speaker 1: a Patriots and Mac Jones rampage going through their season,

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Speaker 1: especially weeks one through four. So they have the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: week one, Week two they they play the Jets. Then

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Speaker 1: week three they host the Saints at home. Week four

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Speaker 1: they have the Tampa Bay Bucks at home. We were thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to see mac Jones, we probably see

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Speaker 1: him week one because you have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a tune up there before you get the Bucks. And

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Speaker 1: if it goes south against the Bucks, then that may

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Speaker 1: be the first game. Because it's Bill Belichick as a

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Speaker 1: head coach, that maybe the first game. If Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is not playing how he did the first three weeks,

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Speaker 1: we could see Cam Newton walk into the picture there,

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Speaker 1: or it could be the reverse of that. It could

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01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,719
Speaker 1: be Cam Newton all the way up until the Bucks

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Speaker 1: and then you know, after the Buccaneers then it's Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones show. But do you think about it, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: play the Dolphins, then the Jets. You play the Dolphins.

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01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Two doesn't have that much more experience than Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: does the Jets. Zach Wilson has probably less experience than

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones does. I mean be known because he's played

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Speaker 1: at a higher level of college football. So, and then

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Speaker 1: the Saints with Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill, you could

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Speaker 1: it could be the perfect scenario for a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: to come into a franchise and get off to the

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Speaker 1: best start possible. Yeah, I think you can make case

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Speaker 1: with both of us. And I think there's a third

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Speaker 1: case that I would argue when it comes to Mac Jones,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know that game Patriots Buccaneers, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: coming back to New England. That's going to be chaos.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is going to be a circus in

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Speaker 1: New England and circus nationally. In a game you would

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Speaker 1: expect the Patriots salute. I mean, the Bucks are going

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01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: to be favored in that game. The Bucks should be

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Speaker 1: favored in that game. Wouldn't be shocking if Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: won that game. And we know what Bill Belichick. We

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01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 1: know what you know with that organization, what they wanted

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01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 1: he was, they control the story. They move on immediately.

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01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: Remember that famous loss to the Chiefs a couple of

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01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: years before, Belichick said hey, you know, we're on to Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and they went on to Cincinnati won that week. No

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Speaker 1: one want to win the super Bowl. Wouldn't be shocking

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01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 1: if after that Fuccaneers game, if Cam was the starter,

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01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 1: the first thing they do was say, okay, Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: was going to be our guy. Week five and they

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Speaker 1: play at Houston that's probably gonna be the worst team

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Speaker 1: in the league. After Houston Texans Week five, you get

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones in we you know, we're moving on from

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01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 1: the Bradys story. The news in New England is now, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is our new starting quarterback. This is the guy

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Speaker 1: who's the big story now, and he's gonna get this

2237
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Speaker 1: tuneup match against the worst team in the league wee five.

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Speaker 1: Then he gets Cowboys, who aren't a great defense, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets at home the following week. So three pretty

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Speaker 1: easy matchups to start his career with. Maybe if he's

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Speaker 1: going to be the starter then so I could see

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Speaker 1: him coming in week one. I could see him coming

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Speaker 1: in early in the season. I could also see him

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01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: waiting until that Bucks game, you know, after Week four,

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Speaker 1: and then that being sort of the hey, we're moving on,

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01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: this is our new story. Tom Brady's in the past

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01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 1: back being Bill Belichick's way to change the story for

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01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 1: the Patriot Yeah, since they're in the AFCs, it's definitely

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Speaker 1: going to be a storyline that Bill's fans will be

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Speaker 1: following for those first couple of weeks to see when

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Speaker 1: he gets his first starters, first couple plays of action,

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Speaker 1: whether that's coming into a game possibly in the second half,

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01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: or who knows when. But Bill, thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on with us and breaking down this article you put

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Speaker 1: out about the twenty eighteen quarterback draft class. Certainly interesting

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01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: to see where these guys have gone since coming into

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Speaker 1: the league and where they could go here in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Yeah, for sure, Thanks guys, anytime. Appreciate you. Bill.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's Bill Barnwell from ESPN. It was good

2260
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Speaker 1: to hear him break down and get into some of

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Speaker 1: those quarterbacks and what he had to say about Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: I recommend his article on ESPN. It hit bus, it

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Speaker 1: goes down, It goes to and it's a little bit

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01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 1: it's a little bit gag alicious. I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: get into this, he's well, they're completion percentage year over year,

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Speaker 1: and he goes back in the time and takes other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks who've done him. It's a great article and does

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Speaker 1: compare statistically where these guys went after a stellar year

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Speaker 1: like Josh had last year. What typically they go through

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Speaker 1: the next year and there is always a regression. But

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Speaker 1: there are some pretty good names on that list of

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Speaker 1: guys who had phenomenal careers, you know, Joe Montana being

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Speaker 1: one of them. Man that those are the kind of

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Speaker 1: guys who had that breakout year and might have regressed

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01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: in the second year, but stayed really close to that

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01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: level all the time. Yeah, if you're a numbers type

2277
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: of person, it's definitely an article to jump into and

2278
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 1: to get into because it's cool to see some of

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Speaker 1: the different types of index metrics that they use. It's

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 1: not your common statistics thing you see in a box score. Yeah,

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01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 1: it's my type of things. So it was it was

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01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: fun to dive into. But we're going to take a

2283
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Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, we will get into

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Speaker 1: our Twitter poll Twitter question. Maybe round that out before

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Speaker 1: we close out the show here at three o'clock. So

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Speaker 1: thanks for being with us so far. And One Bills

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Speaker 1: Lie presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Well

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01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: back into One Bills Live Maddi glab and Steve Tasker.

2289
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: We've been discussing if the Bills win their first Super

2290
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 1: Bowl this year, it will be because of what And

2291
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: the question came about because Adams Shine wrote an article

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01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com. It was the Shine nine style

2293
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: if you've read his stuff before, and it detailed the

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01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: twelve teams who have yet to win a Super Bowl

2295
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: and he ranked them one through nine, so some didn't

2296
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: make the cut, but one through nine who had the

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01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,879
Speaker 1: best chance to win their first Super Bowl. The Bills

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01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 1: were number one on the list. Of course, because of

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen his year last year. What it could be

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01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: this year. The continuity with the coordinators on the coaching staff.

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01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 1: You know, you return Brian day Ball, you return Leslie Frazier,

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Speaker 1: having those two minds and room together, and what they've

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01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,520
Speaker 1: been able to do with the defense and the offense

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01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: over the last few seasons. Mix that all together with

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Speaker 1: the type of defense that this spills defense. This Bills

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01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: team has been known to have. Last year not the best,

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Speaker 1: but still pretty good. Twenty nineteen, they had a top

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Speaker 1: five defense this season. Before that, they had a top

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01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: five defense, and he put them at number one because

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Speaker 1: of all that. So, yeah, he said, the experience on

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01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: their defense is really what got him. It's not the

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01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: production so much last year, they said, because they've got

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01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 1: an experienced secondary, experienced leadership up in their front seven.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, Tremaine Edmunds coming back and being the

2315
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 1: centerpiece with a lot of experience even still being young,

2316
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: Matt Malano resigning. They got a lot of guys who

2317
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 1: were experienced in the system, plus the opt outs of

2318
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 1: Starlow tu Lele coming back, and a bunch of high

2319
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 1: draft picks up front that are starting that hopefully will

2320
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 1: come into their own and also make a splash when

2321
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: they hit the field. So a lot of good things

2322
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 1: to look forward to for the Bills. We all know that,

2323
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 1: and it's Adam Shine said. Not only does he know it,

2324
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 1: he thinks of all the teams, that's interesting, there are

2325
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: twelve teams in the NFL who have never won a

2326
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He thinks the Buffalo Bills have the best

2327
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: chance of those twelve to do it this year, which

2328
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 1: is fun to think about those twelve Cardinals, Falcons, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Texans, Jaguars, Chargers, Vikings,

2329
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: and Titans. So to continue that conversation, we're going to

2330
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: go to the phone lines to Trent, who's been hanging

2331
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: on for a second. Trent from Rochester, what do you

2332
02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 1: think it'll take for the Buffalo Bills to win their

2333
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 1: Super their first Super Bowl? In all honesty, I believe

2334
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 1: it's going to take a combination of all of those things.

2335
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I believe Josh Allen is going to improve, and I

2336
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: believe he's going to be the unanimous MVP this year.

2337
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 1: I believe the defense because of the stable of pass

2338
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: rushers that they have, I believe guys like Addison and

2339
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: them are going to be pushed to perform better. So

2340
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna end up being a top five

2341
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 1: defense because the other guys behind them are really good already.

2342
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 1: So get the pass rush together, get Josh Allen going

2343
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 1: his mental game, which is so underrated. I think that

2344
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 1: takes the step forward. So if I got to give

2345
02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 1: you Josh Allen of twenty twenty one. I might as

2346
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: well combine Dan Loreno, Cam Newton, I'm sorry, Randall Cunningham,

2347
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:14,400
Speaker 1: and then maybe someone else, Peyton Manning. But this guy

2348
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 1: is special. He can do things that no other quarterback

2349
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 1: can do, and I believe he's gonna show that this year.

2350
02:01:20,680 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 1: So that's why I have so much faith at him.

2351
02:01:22,840 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 1: And he's got the work ethic. If it wasn't for that,

2352
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have so much faith. But he's not satisfied.

2353
02:01:29,360 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: He I'm looking at a multi super Bowl winning quarterbacks,

2354
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at. What do you think about?

2355
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 1: And if I might ask Trent, what do you think about?

2356
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: The odds are if that can the Bills beat the Chiefs? Absolutely.

2357
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: The thing about the Chiefs losing to them twice last

2358
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 1: year is not only give them the motivation, it's schematically.

2359
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: It made them go out and do what you saw

2360
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 1: them do. They're like, we need to get a pass

2361
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 1: rush to this guy. So Josh Allen, I think the

2362
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs are like, is a nemesis. He's gonna pull away

2363
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 1: from them this year. And I don't think it matters

2364
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 1: whether it's the Chiefs or anyone else. Is just the

2365
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,040
Speaker 1: fact that they're not going to be able to keep

2366
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 1: up with them. So yeah, I believe they're gonna beat

2367
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: the Cheers. Even if they don't beat them in the

2368
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 1: regular season. It's that playoffs thing. I believe they're going

2369
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: to come out and literally attack the Chiefs the way

2370
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: you need to, and that's going to get the job done. Well,

2371
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:27,440
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Trent, appreciate Trent, No problem, you all

2372
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: have to go. Yes, I like his enthusiasm on the

2373
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 1: fact that Chiefs coming down when we play them in

2374
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I do think we're going to get one

2375
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:41,400
Speaker 1: against them this year. Well we'll see. I mean, I

2376
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: hope it's the second one, right, But if I had

2377
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 1: to pick one, it would be sec every day. And

2378
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest with all with ourselves. And certainly

2379
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: you got to think at certain level, the Bills have

2380
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: gotten better. They brought in a lot more talent on

2381
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: the offensive line to compete for a starting job. They've

2382
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: drafted another year where they've got multiple high draft picks

2383
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 1: on the defensive front. They've got their offensive line bolstered

2384
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 1: with a youth and talent, a lot of young, really

2385
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 1: talented players. They brought in a veteran wide receiver who

2386
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: is a playmaker and a guy that the Bills have

2387
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 1: been trying to get for a year for more than

2388
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: two years, so they were trying to get him before

2389
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: they got Steph Diggs. So a guy that they really

2390
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,480
Speaker 1: have high hopes for to help Josh Allen and to

2391
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: replace John Brown. Devin Singletary looks completely like a completely

2392
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 1: different player coming back this year. Starlotuls back on the field.

2393
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 1: So all the stuff's going on and you think, Okay,

2394
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 1: we're getting better, it's easy to forget as Bills fans,

2395
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 1: Patriots got better, Dolphins got better, Jets got better. Chiefs

2396
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 1: feel like they're even getting better. The Rams feel every

2397
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:48,720
Speaker 1: team in the league at this point in the year

2398
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: we're in June, everybody feels like they're better, not only

2399
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,120
Speaker 1: because they learned what they were deficient at last year

2400
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:56,720
Speaker 1: and they can remember that. They also feel like they've

2401
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,120
Speaker 1: kind of fixed it right. They took steps towards fixing it.

2402
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 1: So every team in the league is kind of where

2403
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo is right now. They're going to be better than

2404
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. The question is who's right,

2405
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:09,400
Speaker 1: and we don't know that yet. I think the interesting

2406
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: thing is the teams in twenty twenty one regular season

2407
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: are going to be very different than the teams in

2408
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty regular season. The Niners are going to

2409
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 1: be different, the Bills are going to be different. They're

2410
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 1: all gonna be if someone will be better and someone

2411
02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: will be kind of the same but look completely different.

2412
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: That's the interesting part about it. The Bills were a

2413
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 1: better team, but they were and they were completely different

2414
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,000
Speaker 1: than they were a year before in twenty nineteen that

2415
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: a top five defense and an offense that was just

2416
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: barely good enough, scoring like fourteen or sixteen points a game.

2417
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 1: They were barely good, and they were playing They scored

2418
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 1: nineteen points a game in twenty nineteen nineteen. Then over

2419
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 1: the course of sixteen games, they scored you know, twenty

2420
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 1: nine and a half, right, So they were way better

2421
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: and their defense was middle of the pack instead of

2422
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 1: top five. They were completely different team and won three

2423
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: more regular season games, and they did a year go

2424
02:04:57,320 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 1: and won a couple of playoff games. A lot. Both

2425
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 1: teams were a lot of fun to watch for Bills fans,

2426
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 1: but they were completely different. I think the intriguing part

2427
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: is we got thirty two teams and we don't know

2428
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: what they're gonna look like, none of them. You think,

2429
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 1: you know that Patriots are going to be completely different

2430
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: this year with Hunter Henry and John new Smith and

2431
02:05:16,040 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 1: the receivers they got and Mac Jones and Slash Cam Newton,

2432
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 1: whoever that's gonna they're gonna be completely different football team

2433
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 1: and the opt outs coming back defensively, We don't know

2434
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:28,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this season. So I think it's a

2435
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun to think about. You know, Trent calls

2436
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 1: in and thinks the same thing that Bills. There's a

2437
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 1: lot of reason to be optimistic. But let's you know,

2438
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 1: let's open our eyes and look around a little bit too. Right,

2439
02:05:40,440 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Mark from West Seneca, who's on

2440
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: the line. Mark, if the Bills were to win their

2441
02:05:45,720 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl, what do you think it would be

2442
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 1: because of I've got two answers for you guys. The

2443
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 1: first is the obvious one, Josh Allen. But Steve alluded

2444
02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:00,400
Speaker 1: to something earlier in the show that is my reason

2445
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 1: for picking Josh, which is his intelligence. He alludes to

2446
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 1: the fact that he had the highest score on the

2447
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:08,800
Speaker 1: Wonderlood Test out of all the quarterbacks in his class.

2448
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: His talent is undeniable. Josh maybe the most talented quarterback

2449
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 1: in a package in the league. I don't know that

2450
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 1: anybody has the athletic package that he has. But put

2451
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 1: together his work ethic and his intelligence, and now that

2452
02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:28,600
Speaker 1: he's with the Deable again for another year, I think

2453
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 1: that's where his growth is going to come from, from

2454
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,040
Speaker 1: between his ears, knowing the game, knowing what he's looking at,

2455
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: and just exploiting defenses that way. And the other thing

2456
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 1: that I wanted to mention was, and I don't think

2457
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 1: anybody has mentioned it yet, is don't sell short our

2458
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 1: head coach and his ability to lead men and to

2459
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:53,200
Speaker 1: keep this team focused week to week to week. There's

2460
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of hype around this team and even nationally now,

2461
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 1: and it's really easy to get ahead of yourself. But

2462
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 1: McDermott he will have those guys focused and he will

2463
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 1: not let them get too far ahead of themselves, and

2464
02:07:08,280 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 1: he'll take you one step at a time. I absolutely

2465
02:07:11,120 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 1: believe that he's one of the best coaches in the

2466
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 1: league now. So thanks for the call. Thanks for the call, Mark, Yeah,

2467
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about the hype and team not

2468
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: buying into it. This team is not let that go

2469
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 1: into the locker room yet. From what I can see

2470
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: and from how the players portray themselves and how they

2471
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:37,120
Speaker 1: carry themselves is always been like McDermott says, humble and

2472
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 1: hungry type of attitude, and you could tell just how

2473
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 1: much that word and that phrase is used. We draft

2474
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 1: our draft picks and this past draft class and Greg

2475
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Russo gets on zoom to talk to media and I

2476
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 1: think he dropped a humble and hungry or one of

2477
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 1: the Sean mcdermotisms, and I was like, Oh, there it

2478
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,040
Speaker 1: is already. But it's it's it's the right mindset to have.

2479
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 1: And it's a reason why, um, the hype and the

2480
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: the attention that was on the Bills this last season

2481
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:11,960
Speaker 1: and the attention that's going to be on them this

2482
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: season doesn't flood into that locker room because they have

2483
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 1: those veteran leaders, They have that presence from the coaching

2484
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 1: staff to to have that confidence that they need to have,

2485
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: but not in a way that it turns into a

2486
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 1: cocky type of confidence. And when you do buy into

2487
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 1: the hype and it becomes too much for you. Yeah,

2488
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 1: we spoke about it earlier in the show, and I'll

2489
02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 1: go back to it. We we all had this thing

2490
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 1: like what the Bills needed because they got beat in

2491
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:42,360
Speaker 1: Houston on the road down there two years ago after

2492
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: going ten and six and getting in and and so

2493
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,839
Speaker 1: everybody thought this that last offseason, you know, last offseason

2494
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 1: when we weren't distracted by the pandemic that you know,

2495
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 1: we got we gotta get a home playoff game. We

2496
02:08:54,240 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: gotta get a home playoff game and have people come

2497
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 1: in here so where we feel comfortable and stuff. So

2498
02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:00,680
Speaker 1: they did that last year and that, but that goal

2499
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 1: has now been reached and they got to the AFC

2500
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 1: Championship game. They won two home playoff games against two

2501
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 1: really good football teams, and they get the AFC Championship

2502
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: game and you know, they got beat by a really

2503
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: good football team playing at a really high level. I

2504
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 1: think this is one of the things too, and you

2505
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: mentioned it. It's the mindset now for the team, is

2506
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 1: that getting a home playoff game and getting to the

2507
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game is now just part of the process.

2508
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:26,400
Speaker 1: It's not part of one of these lofty goals like

2509
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 1: we got to take another step. We gotta have a

2510
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 1: home playoff game and win a playoff game. We got

2511
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 1: to show people that we're legit contender. Well, okay, now

2512
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 1: that's part of the process. That there's no longer a

2513
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 1: lofty goal out there. That's not the super Bowl. You know,

2514
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's no way you can be satisfied with

2515
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 1: anybody but going through the entire process once again, getting

2516
02:09:46,160 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, getting home playoff game, playing well in

2517
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: those games, getting to the AFC Championship game, and then

2518
02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:55,720
Speaker 1: playing well that day instead of not playing well and

2519
02:09:55,880 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 1: then going on to the super Bowl. That's now stead

2520
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 1: of being that loft eagle, that's it. We need to

2521
02:10:01,840 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: we need to we need to get a playoff game,

2522
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 1: we need to get a home playoff game. We need

2523
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 1: to win a playoff game. Well, that's all now done.

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Speaker 1: That's it's now. It's part of the process. So there's

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Speaker 1: no big wall between you and what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: strive for. You've been every step of the way, and

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Speaker 1: now you can you can think about, you know, playing

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Speaker 1: well rather than you know, I hope we're doing this right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's that been there, done, that attitude that they have

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Speaker 1: and that they are going to continue to have this

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Speaker 1: season and seasons to come. We're going to take a break,

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. A couple of minutes left here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, presented by Clyde to Health. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, it's time for what have

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Speaker 1: we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

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Speaker 1: equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills, And today we

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Speaker 1: learned what you all think about. If the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: win their first Super Bowl, it could look like the

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Speaker 1: winner in our poor poll was a top five defense

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Speaker 1: for the Bills this season. But a lot of you,

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02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 1: said Josh Allen. In an MVP season, A couple of

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02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 1: people said Steve ear Thing was home field advantage, number

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02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: one seed for the playoffs. If you get number one seed,

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02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: it says a lot about where your entire team is.

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02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:23,760
Speaker 1: If your quarterback wins the MVP, it means he had

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02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 1: a good year. Aaron Rodgers won the MVP last year

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02:11:26,520 --> 02:11:28,080
Speaker 1: and didn't even appear in the Super Bowl. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to go to and win it, your whole

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02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 1: team's got to be playing well. We saw the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. You know, Tom Brady was certainly

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Speaker 1: the centerpiece of it, and with his wide receivers and

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02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,640
Speaker 1: his weapons, but it was their defense and their pass

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02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:41,720
Speaker 1: rush in the actual game that made the difference for

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Speaker 1: the Bucks to win their for Super Bowl. I think

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02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 1: it takes fifty three guys and all the coaches and

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02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 1: everybody hitting it on the all cylinders to win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I think if you're doing that, it

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Speaker 1: means you got the number one seed and you've been

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02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 1: doing it the entire year. So if they're playing well

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Speaker 1: enough to get the number one seed in a conference

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Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs in the same conference with

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Speaker 1: the tamp that the New England Patriots in their division,

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Speaker 1: with so many teams that are playing well, it says

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Speaker 1: a lot about where you're at, and you've got to

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02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 1: be playing well. And I think the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Bill's got deep last year will help them get there

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02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 1: again because there will be no there'll be no unknowns

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02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:21,640
Speaker 1: for them. Now. They got to go and play well

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Speaker 1: in that game that they couldn't play well in last year.

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Speaker 1: I think that sticks with you as a player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: their defense last year they ranked sixteenth, allowing twenty three

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Speaker 1: point four points per game and thirteenth allowing two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty two passing yards a game. Seventeenth against the run.

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Speaker 1: But then in the second half of the season is

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Speaker 1: when they really turned it on defensively. It was after

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Speaker 1: Week twelve that then they ranked fifth, allowing eighteen point

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Speaker 1: three points per game. So I think they're going to

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02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 1: be able to pick up from a good point where

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Speaker 1: they left off last season. I know that Chief's loss

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02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the best for the defense, but they got it

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Speaker 1: together in the second half a last season, and they

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Speaker 1: returned several people. And I talked about Matt Mulana's health

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02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:05,440
Speaker 1: so many times that dude's healthy. This defense is going

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02:13:05,480 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: to be pretty illeital Don't forget how much pressure the

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Speaker 1: offense put on all those teams to be good and

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02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 1: score points. The Bills were singing offensively and it helped

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Speaker 1: their defense, and maybe the reverse could be true this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see training campus about a month away. There's going

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of great competitions going on when

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Speaker 1: you look at position groups and just how many battles

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Speaker 1: we will have on defense and offense. But thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us here on Wednesday on one Bill's Live. Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker and I will be back on Thursday, so catch

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Speaker 1: us back here at noon. We'll see tomorrow