WEBVTT - 12/21/21 DPS Hour 2 Ross Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>that wraps up the show, you get that every afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an interview that I recorded with the former

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<v Speaker 1>Whole question, Nickolobin, what are we going with an hour

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<v Speaker 1>or two? Okay? Our one was which vacancy would you

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<v Speaker 1>want Raiders, Jag or Bears. The Raiders run away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. You could build around

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<v Speaker 1>one young wide receiver in the NFL. Who are you taking?

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Jefferson is twenty two, Jamar Chase is twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>DK Metcalf twenty four, and maybe Deebo Samuel twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a twenty five and under a crew. Jaylen Waddle

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<v Speaker 1>and DeVante Smith I think are too young. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if there's anyone else that jumps to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Claypool not quite there. Well, if you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>in Jamar Chase, and you gotta put in Jaalen Waddle

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<v Speaker 1>because why would you think he's that and that he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a hundred catches? Yeah, I mean they came

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<v Speaker 1>out in the same draft. I still think everyone would

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<v Speaker 1>pick Chase over him right now? Probably, yes, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't focus on the Dolphins. It's one of those where

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<v Speaker 1>you look at two his numbers and you go, those

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<v Speaker 1>are decent numbers. Waddle has had a really good year,

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet year because they weren't winning. Now they're winning.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm taking Justin Jefferson because he's proven it now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for two seasons, Chase started out great, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cooled off, I think, but yeah, i'd probably DK Metcalf.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think there's a fascination and he'll always

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<v Speaker 1>have highlights. I don't know if he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a great receiver. I just don't know. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to run routes. You can be

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<v Speaker 1>physically imposing, you can be fast, you can be strong.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at guys who kind of defy logic. They

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<v Speaker 1>ran routes really well, precise, great hands, consistent. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a lot of receivers who just want that

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<v Speaker 1>home run ball that you got to do the dirty

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<v Speaker 1>work too. And I don't know if DK Metcalf is

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<v Speaker 1>in that system, you know, if he's the right guy

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<v Speaker 1>to do something like that, or it might be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys that goes, hey, he had two catches

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<v Speaker 1>and one was for sixty four yards on the club.

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<v Speaker 1>We already got to note ceed Lambs twenty two seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that list too. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they spread the wealth there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like he's, you know, he's a number one receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes plays. You know, you have to clear your

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<v Speaker 1>schedule now with what's going on with COVID, because the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL moved two games to tonight because of teams dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with COVID, And you know, both of these games have

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<v Speaker 1>playoff implications. With the win over Seattle, the Rams will

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<v Speaker 1>take sole possession of first place in the NFC West.

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia and Washington are both in the running, as is

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for a wild card card spot. The Rams have Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>then they're at the Vikings and at the Ravens closing

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<v Speaker 1>out their season. But you know, these games will feature

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of players you probably never heard of. All

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<v Speaker 1>four will be starting multiple backups here, and the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of play doesn't appear to be a big concern for

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. The schedule change has led to shortened weeks

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<v Speaker 1>across the NFL, and all four teams will be forced

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<v Speaker 1>to play on four days rest next week, which leaves

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<v Speaker 1>them very little time to game plan, even less time

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<v Speaker 1>for the players to rest. And it's far from ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making a final playoff push, and this just comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to mental toughness, you know, just the health of

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<v Speaker 1>your roster. It's it's a battle of attrition and it

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<v Speaker 1>was that with a sixteen game schedule. Now you add

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeenth and you just hope that teams are able

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<v Speaker 1>to field something that resembles who they really are, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the shame if somebody would miss out because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a shortened work week, or you know their their roster

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<v Speaker 1>is greatly reduced to their star players. But that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL is going to plow a him. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florio pointed this out that the NFL is playing

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<v Speaker 1>these games and they don't care who's playing in these games.

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<v Speaker 1>They just want to get to the postseason. And I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you do away with Week seventeen and be fair

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<v Speaker 1>to the teams going into the playoffs. I know we'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to have the seventeenth game, but do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have quality play in the playoffs? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have guys who have been injured had that opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>level the playing field for everybody. But the NFL has

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in that. It's full speed ahead. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>these games in no matter what. Yeah, Paul I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the interview with Doctor Sill's NFL's doctor with Jeremy Shappan.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, the policy is when you come to the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're vaccinated, you are not tested unless you voluntary

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<v Speaker 1>walk up to a medical staffer and say I've got

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, I want to be tested, I feel something,

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<v Speaker 1>And otherwise you just go about your business. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to tell anybody anything. If you have symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>then if you want to come forward. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>encourages players to not say anything. And it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL is quietly okay with this, like all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're not going to test. If you feel bad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you got flu like symptoms, then just let

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<v Speaker 1>us know. And I talked to a doctor, this was

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<v Speaker 1>two days ago, and he said, you know how contagious

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<v Speaker 1>this variant is right now, but it in his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to burn off in about a month. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be this this tidal wave. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to hospitalize people. It doesn't infect your lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I was curious because I have autoimmune issues

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted to make sure because I've had

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<v Speaker 1>the shots and I had the booster, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you've done everything you can do. If you do get it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to feel like you have the flu.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what we're seeing is pretty much the prevalent

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that that people have. So you know, for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that means, but it feels like in a month's time

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe there is some relief there. But that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a doctor who's involved in this field. Yes, mclove.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it interesting how a lot of what I seem

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<v Speaker 1>to know about this is through the sports world, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it starts with all these NBA and NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and NHL players get it. But this is playing out

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<v Speaker 1>on TV for us that we know people who have

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<v Speaker 1>this and how it affects players or teams. Twitter, it's

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<v Speaker 1>playing out. Everybody has an opinion. You know. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a story that was going around yesterday that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had Mark Davis, the Las Vegas Raiders owner. He

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<v Speaker 1>complained that his team was given a competitive disadvantage because

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<v Speaker 1>the game was moved another day for the Cleveland game,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders cornerback Casey Hayward. He wondered on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>if the Browns got a break and they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to move it till last night because JC Tretter, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the starting center for the Browns, is the NFL Players

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<v Speaker 1>Association president So there's a lot of things going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not simple. And now you've got people wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's getting favors with the NFL Players Association. Yeah, mclev.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a report the Philadelphia Eagles ownership and management

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<v Speaker 1>when nuclear on the NFL for moving the Big Game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand it. I understand it from their perspective

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<v Speaker 1>or like we're doing everything now you're going to give

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<v Speaker 1>them an extra day that you're going to allow them

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<v Speaker 1>to get healthier, and they're probably saying, why why can't

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<v Speaker 1>we play the game when we're supposed to play the

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<v Speaker 1>game with whoever is available to play. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there's there's concern. I gotta be careful in how

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<v Speaker 1>I describe this that certain teams are benefiting from this

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<v Speaker 1>and they shouldn't. That if you if you do what

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to do and you know you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have an outbreak of COVID, But the question is, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how many does it take before you move

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<v Speaker 1>the game, And it should be similar numbers for both teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it felt like Washington was devastated by this and

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles not as much. But then this game got

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Tuesday, all right, eight seven seven three D

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<v Speaker 1>show email ADDRESSDP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle

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<v Speaker 1>a TP show. Rick Stroud, who does a great job

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times, he was

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<v Speaker 1>with us yesterday and I wondered Chris Godwin's out for

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<v Speaker 1>the year with the torn ACL Mike Evans is a

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<v Speaker 1>little banged up with a hamstring injury, and I wondered

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<v Speaker 1>that if those guys were healthy, are they bringing Antonio

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<v Speaker 1>Brown back? And Rick Stroud said, what Tom Brady wants,

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<v Speaker 1>tom Brady gets. Tom Brady wants Antonio Brown back. Bruce Arians,

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<v Speaker 1>Buccaneers head coach, is tired of the topic. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the decision making process for you? Like knowing that some

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<v Speaker 1>people might go back to those comments you publicly about

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<v Speaker 1>Brown and say, wait a minute, hasn't this guy had

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<v Speaker 1>enough chances? I could give it what they think. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I care about this football team and what's

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<v Speaker 1>best for us. It's a fair question. He told us

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<v Speaker 1>last week that you know it could go either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know what it came down to. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what Antonio Brown did. He did serve three

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<v Speaker 1>games suspension, but you know, Tom Brady wanted to keep

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown in New England and he's not letting go

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<v Speaker 1>of Antonio Brown for whatever reason. Well, the reason is

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<v Speaker 1>he knows he's still a valuable football player. Yes, Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Arians has been pretty consistent though, saying he always says

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<v Speaker 1>that one line, We're going to do what's best for

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<v Speaker 1>the football team. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>his job is to win games. He's not worried about

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<v Speaker 1>being popular. He wants to win football games. Ye. And

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<v Speaker 1>the national reaction and local reactions usually quite different. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>national is more judgmental because we don't care if the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa wins a loser. But Tampa, the local fans, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>just get him on the field. Yeah, we'll deal with

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<v Speaker 1>issues later. Yeah. Everybody, it feels like, has a with

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<v Speaker 1>their favorite team. There's a player that you love that

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<v Speaker 1>they're on your team, but you would hate that player

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<v Speaker 1>if he was playing against your team. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with the Cincinnati Reds with Pete Rose. Loved

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<v Speaker 1>Pete played hard, winning his player in baseball history. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I was a fan of somebody else's playing against

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Big Red Machine with Pete Rose, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>hate Pete Rose, but he was my guy and loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's always that guy, that agitator. Yeah, Paul. There

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<v Speaker 1>are some athletes, though, that are so good at what

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<v Speaker 1>they do that they both bother you and your respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Cubs fan, obviously, but when Mike Schmidt

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<v Speaker 1>would come to town, I hated what he did to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs. We're like, man, he's good. I would do

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<v Speaker 1>anything to have Mike Schmidt on my baseball team. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's certain athletes like that. Jeff and Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>leads his song, Hey, Jeff, what's on your mind today? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Fellas? Hey? Shout out to the dance

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys chirp chirp for BSU fly to w

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cubs. Hey, I got three quick things. One

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<v Speaker 1>I actually used to date because of the Chicago quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say the name for a long time. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>mother's nephew. But we broke up because of the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing Chicago had problems with. I didn't have enough execution. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>night he him, didn't he get a good contract from

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<v Speaker 1>the coach. Yet he's out performing like Taylor. Yet Taylor's

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<v Speaker 1>a better running back. And thirdly, you guys are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about taking a blowout and equated it to a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>dumping you. Forget that man, blow up the DM that way.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows love you guys. Thank you. Jeff kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt a little all over the place there. Journalists

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<v Speaker 1>blow Anthony, who claims to have spoken to a source

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<v Speaker 1>with knowledge from someone close to Woods, says Tiger is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he date somebody's cousin's sister who's was the Bears quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I get that, Lenny and Troy lack of execution? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and in rehearsal it was great. Yeah, I bet when

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<v Speaker 1>he was in this car, like I got this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna crushed. Okay here, I'm gonna say it this no,

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I'm gonna say it thing. No, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill He's rehearsing in a stoplight there, yeah, drive

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<v Speaker 1>up right by him. He's they're talking to himself. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm and I dated the sister of the cousin

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<v Speaker 1>of the quarterback of the Bears. And lack of execute

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not easy. You got about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seconds to nail it. You know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure and you got all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear your name and get buzzed in. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do it now. Well Todd can't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a professional cannot No, you're not, I never

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<v Speaker 1>will not able to do it. You guys ever call

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<v Speaker 1>into a radio station before Nick Levin, I randomly did

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<v Speaker 1>to w IP in Philadelphia. They did a night where

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<v Speaker 1>there who is the ugliest professional athlete? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>so funny that I had to weigh in, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said Paul mcktski of the Box Big Moe. And they

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<v Speaker 1>also had Randy Brewer and Alton Lister, who are not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly mattenee idols. Remember that era of Milwaukee bus. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to be seven foot and ugly. Um who else?

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<v Speaker 1>Willie McGhee always gets votes there, Oh he was on

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<v Speaker 1>that show. Yeah. But by the way, I could barely breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so nervous. It was a nighttime shift at

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<v Speaker 1>w I paid, and I was sixteen. It was terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to call in. I never got in. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Trumpy, former tight end of the Cincinnati Bengals, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd i'd call, I'd be like die on

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't you know, you didn't have speed dialing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just had to pound those numbers or you had

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<v Speaker 1>to go the old phones there, the rotary phones. But

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<v Speaker 1>never got in. I thought, oh, I'm gonna show this

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<v Speaker 1>guy I know sports there, never got into to tell

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<v Speaker 1>him that Paul you Yeah, in Chicago. I was probably eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>so my voice hadn't changed yet. And remember guy named

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<v Speaker 1>chet Copic. Oh yeah, great old chet shit chit check coming.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a classic Chicago sports host. And I got

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<v Speaker 1>on and my little and he's got this booming voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, do you think that very fensic is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be healthy for the playoffs? He not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Fensic tonight, kiddo, but we'll talk about that after

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<v Speaker 1>the BA He blew off my call because of a

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<v Speaker 1>stupid question, but yeah, you can think he'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so you were Jake before Jake totally Jake. Yeah, yes, McLevin, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it was Chet me about it,

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<v Speaker 1>like Dan, I know, I know, I know, as my

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<v Speaker 1>wife says, not everybody gets your sense of humor. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was a classic moment there. Uh, you were just

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<v Speaker 1>being funny with Jake I was trying to be funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying like, oh no, Jake, we're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I was just trying too just and I went, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, like I'm supposed to do. Really wait, wait, Jake,

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<v Speaker 1>don't overreact like this. You're you're better than that. Rights

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<v Speaker 1>give my opinion. I know, I'm kidding. It's worse. It's

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<v Speaker 1>worse than I remember it is. It is. I just

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<v Speaker 1>given my opinion like i'm supposed to. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 1>tell a nine year old you're better than that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>You did, Jake, don't overreact. All right, you're better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just trying to give my opinion like I'm supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you're probably surprised that my four kids

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<v Speaker 1>have grown up with some normalcy. That I once said

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<v Speaker 1>to them, if nobody beats me in a foot race,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no gifts for Christmas. I once said that to them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a challenge. I did front yard and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>are you because they're like, hey, let's have a race,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, all right, if you guys, don't, if

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<v Speaker 1>nobody beats me, no gifts for Christmas. And and so

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<v Speaker 1>my wife goes, what are you doing? I go that

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<v Speaker 1>gotta learn, and she goes, no, that that this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>how you learn. Is that like a Christmas tradition in

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<v Speaker 1>the Midwest somewhere that we don't know about the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Race. I didn't even have a race and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get gifts when I was growing up. Kids who won?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? You did? Yeah? And then where they crying tears?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was God? Once again. Not everybody gets my

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor. Yes, you know, Jake's well on his

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<v Speaker 1>way to becoming the youngest general manager NBA. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly impressive. A kick, Yes, yeah, Jake the Oracle probably

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<v Speaker 1>partially dude to getting tough and up when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of like Urban Meyer. You know these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are soft. Now you're welcome, Jake. I may kick you

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<v Speaker 1>during the break, Todd first time. Let's take a break, meadhead.

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles game. He'll be doing pregame for that tonight

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of Washington versus Philadelphia. How are you feeling. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing fine, man. It's football season. I got about a

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<v Speaker 1>month more to push through. Although I will tell you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't often do what I did yesterday. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I live in central Pennsylvania, the Harrisburg Hershey area. I

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<v Speaker 1>drove out to Cleveland in the morning, listen to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys the whole way. The mclovin's friend that came up

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<v Speaker 1>to you during taps had me rolling, but I listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole way out five hours. I got to

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel, worked out, showered, did the game, and then

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<v Speaker 1>just drove home. Got home at like two am. Last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like staying over. I had too much

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to do. I don't I don't often do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't often Dan go to a game not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing who was going to play in the game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really like, like I've heard of a game time

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<v Speaker 1>decision before, we're now getting we're in the era of

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<v Speaker 1>a lab time decision. Like I was waiting to hear

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<v Speaker 1>back from the lab to see who would be the

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns three hours before the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think players just don't want to be tested anymore, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's just go, let's just you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the home stretch, and who cares if somebody test

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<v Speaker 1>positive or got flu like symptoms or they're asymptomatic. Does

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL care? Well? I think there are some players

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<v Speaker 1>that do, and those players had been previously pushing for

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<v Speaker 1>daily testing. I think the majority of the players at

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<v Speaker 1>this point are like, you know what, I'm vaccinated, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm boosted, maybe I'm not. You know, eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they're testing positive now are asymptomatic. Like, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to play these games because Dan, it's kind of crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>right the game was supposed to be Saturday at four thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>They postponed it forty eight hours. The Browns got three

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<v Speaker 1>guys back, Whyatt Teller as well as Tach McKinley and

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<v Speaker 1>John Johnson. But they lost Jadevion Clowney and they're starting

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle James Hudson in those forty eight hours. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns got a net one more guy, Dan, one

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<v Speaker 1>more guy. So they moved the whole The NFL moved

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<v Speaker 1>everything forty eight hours for one extra player for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns. I'll tell you what's really weird now. The

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<v Speaker 1>two things we got to talk about. Number One, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not testing guys unless you have symptoms. Well, guess what

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna say they have symptoms. Can you imagine me

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL offensive lineman and what your offensive line coach

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<v Speaker 1>of saydie if you came in said, uh, yeah, trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the sniffles. I mean, they would look at

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<v Speaker 1>you like you have three heads. But then I just

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<v Speaker 1>found out yesterday I didn't realize this. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>They're still gonna do some random testing though, like almost

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<v Speaker 1>like you're at the airport and it's tsa pre check

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<v Speaker 1>and you go through and you get buzz and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any metal. I mean, they're like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a random they're doing random, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>dan presents a real issue, Like what if next week

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<v Speaker 1>they randomly get a starting quarterback and he's positive. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the team they're playing, the only guy they randomly test

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<v Speaker 1>is the practice squad punter. I think when you do

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<v Speaker 1>things randomly like that, it opens you up to criticism

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<v Speaker 1>and skepticism about how random it really is. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>they did that. Can you refuse? I don't know. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it like when you get pulled over for a DUI

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<v Speaker 1>or something you're you're refusing the breathalyzer. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you guys talking about that yesterday too. But

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<v Speaker 1>my point is is, um no, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can refuse. That's a great question. What are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to do if you do refuse? If you do refuse,

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<v Speaker 1>they say you're a positive or they find you that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's actually an amazing question. We're talking to Ross

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker and the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Also, let's see

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<v Speaker 1>at Rosstucker NFL. That's so where he is on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of things. Let's start with Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad are things in Cleveland and how much worse

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<v Speaker 1>is it gonna get? Well? I think things are going

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<v Speaker 1>to get better in the sense that they'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys off the COVID list. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is their schedules brutal. I mean, everybody in the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>North is they got to play the Packers on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Day on Saturday. Now, I think they'll get Baker Mayfield

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<v Speaker 1>and some of these guys back by Saturday. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you don't know how long it takes for the

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<v Speaker 1>virus to get out of your body so that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't test positive. That was a huge loss last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't remember ever calling a game. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that were surprising last night, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember calling a game where if the team won,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in first place in their division and they

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<v Speaker 1>were the four seed. But because Derek Carr led the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders for that field goal late and the Browns lost

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<v Speaker 1>Dan that the twelve seed. Now they went from the

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<v Speaker 1>four seed to the twelve seed. I've never heard of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's because there's about twenty five teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL that have seven or eight wins right now. It's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>And you look at the whole AFC North, they all

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<v Speaker 1>have tough schedules moving forward. It kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are the team with the best chance right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens are kind of reeling, Steelers are still kind

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of beat up. The only thing I thought I knew

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>before the season was that the Bengals would be the

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 1>worst team in the AFC North and they might end

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>up winning the division. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out the Cleveland Browns if they don't make the playoffs, Like,

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>how do you assess Baker Mayfield for that next big

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 1>contract that kind of hanging over the franchise. I don't

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to give them one. I really don't.

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, if you remember after the Lions

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 1>game him they won and he didn't talk to the

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>media the day after the game and his wife had

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a social media post. And then even last week when

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>they beat the Ravens, he talked about how they were

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>too conservative. He talked about internal things like what are

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you doing? I mean, what's he First of all, this

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>is the worst he's played in a while. But secondly,

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 1>why is he going back to a couple of years

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>ago when he's saying things in the media that just

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 1>don't help the team, internal things, calling out the coaching

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>staff when being too conservative. My read on it is,

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that the contract things bothering him. I think

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that he's seen what happened with Josh Allen. I think

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>he probably has a feeling that maybe the organization doesn't

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 1>love him, and that's got to be hard. I mean,

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 1>he's always had the chip on his shoulder. He walks

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>on a Texas Tech, they don't love him, he leaves,

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>he goes to Oklahoma. It's got to be telling to

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>be a number one overall pick a year ago. He's

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the toast of the town and the Browns are And

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I think on some level, part of this build up

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is because he's getting nervous that they're not going to

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>make him the guy, They're not going to give him

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the long term deal. Yeah. I just wonder what the

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Browns how they assess this. And I was surprised when

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>he talked about he talked about something internal and it

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>felt like there was a disconnect with him and Kevin Stefanski,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the head coach. It feels like Baker's involved in all

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>of these controversies. You know, it's Odell Beckham. It's play calling,

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>wanting to play, I decide if I'm going to play

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>or not. And I think it just there's a little

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>too much there for me and not enough production that

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I can put up with this. If you give me

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 1>that and it right now, then that's a balancing act

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that I don't like well. And to add on to that, Okay,

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>they won both of those games. To me, Dan as

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a former player, I'm an offensive lineman. Why is he

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>creating drama after wins? I mean, we should be happy

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>we won the game. And yet against the Lion they

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't score very many points, they didn't talk to the media,

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>and against the raven they let the Ravens come back.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 1>They had so he says internal things, these are wins.

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Why that's the part of it that probably bothers me

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the most. I was wondering about the job openings you got.

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>The Raiders will be opened, The Bears are open, the

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Jags are open. If I gave you all three to

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>choose from door number one, two or three, I think

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I might go Raiders one and that will

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>surprise people. I took the Raiders too. I think Derek

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Carr's a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I mean,

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I was impressed by him again last night. You know,

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>they dropped a bunch of passes. His old lines now great.

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>They typically can't run the ball a lick. He's been

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>under pressure forever. I think he's I don't know, the eighth, ninth, tenth,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.959
<v Speaker 1>best quarterback in the NFL. I'm gonna I'm gonna go

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>with that, right. I mean, I think you could say

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars entry point is better because anything after urban

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Meyer will be a positive. They'll be patient with you.

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>You have Trevor Lawrence. But I'm not sure that Trevor

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is going to be a top ten quarterback. I

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>already know that Derek Carr is. And they were rolling

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>this year until they had the Grooden drama, the Henry

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Ruggs accident, you know, getting rid of our net. They

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>just had a lot of drama this year. I feel like,

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>you get a good coach in there, you stop the drama.

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the Raiders could be a playoff team next year.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean they could be a playoff team this year.

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Still Chris Collinsworth brought something up on Sunday night, and

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it's that dirty secret that if you ask players would

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you rather get hit low or get hit in the head,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>most players would probably say hit me in the head.

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I can lose a you know, I can be out

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>for a game as opposed to I can be out

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>for the season. Like Chris Godwin, if I ask him today, hey,

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>would you rather get hit low or get hit high?

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna say, I'll take the concussion here. The NFL

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to hear this, or doesn't want us to

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>hear this. But players feel this way, like, Okay, I

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>got a concussion. If I get a torn ACL, I'm done.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Where do you stand on this? If I if I

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>took you back to when you're twenty six years of

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>age and I said, hey, they can hit you low

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>or they gonna hit you up high, Well, you know

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. First of all, it doesn't have

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.479
<v Speaker 1>to be in either or proposition, right, I mean, you

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>can hit a guy high, but not be in the head.

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You know you should the target should be above the

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>knee to the shoulder. I mean neither shoulder should be

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a pretty big target range. But Ross. Let's be fair.

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>This is like the strike zone in baseball where they go, oh,

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>it's from the knees to the armpits. It's not. It's

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it's far smaller than that. And these defensive players, if

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>you're playing it and it moves so fast, I may

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>accidentally hit you and you know, get fined or suspended.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I hit you in the helmet, I get it. I

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:19.000
<v Speaker 1>can get tossed from the game. It's just they haven't

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the playing fields not level for what a defensive player

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>is allowed to do well. And to your point, Dan,

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>if I played defense, I would definitely air on the

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>side of caution and I would go low. Yeah, I

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want the fine, I don't want the penalty. I

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>would go low. And to answer your question, because they've

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>actually changed this rule as of this year, but when

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I was playing, you get out there on a screen

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>pass Dan, or you'd pull out to the outside and

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a corner or a safety. Those guys would come

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>flying up and they would dive at your knees. That's

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>what they were taught because they can't go up high.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>If they go up high, you're gonna just grab him

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and throw him. So Dbs used to go up my knees.

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I hated that. I would much rather of them come

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>high at me. It hit me in the head. I

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>have a huge head. You guys know that I'd much

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>rather them hit me in the head than go low.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>They've actually changed that rule that outside the tight end

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>box they can't go low anymore. And the dbs don't

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>really even know what to do. If I watched a

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>flag get thrown this weekend where there was a five

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>foot tent defensive back and he had a six five

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>lineman and he couldn't do anything, he had to basically

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>say go ahead and steam roll me. Because he couldn't,

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he went low and he got flagged for that. Because

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no other place like you can't go up top

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>with a lineman. No, no, I mean that's just physics.

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>That's not gonna work. What those guys really have to

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>do is they gotta just try to make you miss.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, they got a jab inside pop back outside.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>They can't take you on at all, But they used

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to be taught take the lineman down right there and

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>create a pile. Do you ever get knocked out? Never unconscious?

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, when I played, you know, I don't

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>really think we thought it was a concussion unless you

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>were knocked unconscious. I've seen multiple guys on the field

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a sleep like a baby. At one guy in college

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>at a night game, and one time Drew Bledsoe we

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>were playing at the Metal Lands Dan. He was laying

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>on like the forty two yard line like this, like

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a sleep like a baby. And by the way, he

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>might have came back into that game. Now that I

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>think about it, I'm not even sure just to tell

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you how different it was, but I do know in

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>hindsight several concussions that I got. But back then it

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>was just like you kind of just saw stars and

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh man, that was crazy, but you just

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>kept playing. You didn't really know that that was a concussion,

0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and you should say something and you should come out

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the game. Most important game for which team tonight? Seahawks, Rams,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Washington Eagles. Out of those four, who has to win? Yeah,

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say the Eagles. I would say the Eagles.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, if the Rams win, then they're right there

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>with the Cardinals, which is great, but if they lose,

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>they're still going to be the five seat in the NFC.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Seattle is not going to be able to get back

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 1>into it. There's too many teams with seven wins now

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for Washington, I mean as of right now. We'll see

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>what happens at four pm, but as of right now,

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>they have like sixteen, eighteen guys whatever it is on

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the COVID list. Eagles have to win this game. I mean,

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles are coming off of a bye. They're playing

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>against a team has a bunch of guys on the

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>COVID list, including their top two quarterbacks. The Eagles. If

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they win, then they're seven and seven right there in

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>the playoff mix. Eagles have to win tonight. There's there's

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>no way around it. Always great to catch up with

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you and hopefully you get a breather here next couple

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of days, and I roll on Christmas. Thank you, Dan, Yeah,

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm Merry Christmas to you, buddy, And thanks you guys.

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Football podcast. He works for CBS Westwood One. Did the

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Browns Raiders last night. It's got the Eagles pregame tonight

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>against Washington. We'll take break phone calls coming up. The

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famers Steve Young will join us coming up

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.600
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0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.080
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0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.839
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0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.120
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0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:03.920
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0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:09.399
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0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Heineke and the Washington football team had to Dallas

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.240
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0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. One of the

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>common ingredients for most Super Bowl teams is staying healthy.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Last year, if you remember, the Buccaneers had almost their

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>entire team available for the playoffs, and that kind of

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>luck doesn't normally happen, or it doesn't last very long.

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And Tampa's now scrambling after the shocking shutout laws at

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.839
<v Speaker 1>home to the Saints. They learned yesterday Chris god went

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out for the season torn ecl Mike Evans has a

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>hamstring injuries day to day. Leonard Fournette also has a

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>hamstring injury. He could miss some time. Tom Brady looked

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:55.800
<v Speaker 1>miserable on Sunday without his weapons, and hopefully evans injury

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>won't linger. But you know Brady's going to get Antonio

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Brown back and he wants him back, so he's coming back.

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, the Bucks have two games against the Panthers

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>and one against the Jets, and you know then they'll

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>finish the regular season. So let's say they end up

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>with but twelve wins. McLevin, they maybe thirteen if they

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>win all three. Does that sound right? Yes? I believe so. Okay,

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>So they have two games against the Panthers, one against

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the Jets, and there's time to write the ship. The

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>question is how healthy are they going to be when

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they get to the postseason and are you going to

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>be able to have that number one seed in the NFC.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It feels like it's going to be green Bay, is

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 1>that right? Thirteen and four and green Bay? What's green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay's schedule? I know they have Cleveland coming up this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they got Detroit and the Vikings. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>sound right? The last two games Vikings and then Detroit?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Yes, So they have the Viking and at Detroit, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And if they win two of three, they're gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>up at thirteen wins. Yeah, I believe so, which would

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<v Speaker 1>give them? And do they have the tiebreaker? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that sorry over the Bucks because there was

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<v Speaker 1>let me see, yes, PAULI, this is a really good

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>schedule coming up the next few days. Thursday, you have

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers Titans, both still playoff eligible, like you said,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Brown's Packers, Colts Cardinals on Christmas Night eight and six

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Colts ten and four Cardinals. Cardinals could lose the division

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>with that game. Buffalo at New England yep, Baltimore at

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati is spicy, and San Francisco at Tennessee Thursday night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's one of those games that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>maybe figure out, you know, what these teams are, because

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<v Speaker 1>right now I'm not sure San Francisco is winning. I

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>just don't know how good they are in Tennessee looked

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>great and now they they looked very beatable. Yeah, McLevin. Yeah,

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the Packers have every edge to get that number one seed,

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>but the number two seat will play one of these

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>bad teams like they're watching football team or Vikings. Is

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that so much of a penalty this year? Do you think, um, well,

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't Tampa have trouble with Washington? There it is. That's

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a great point. I mean Tampa had trouble with the Saints.

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>They had more trouble with Washington than they did with

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. Sunday Bills at Patriots. I'm

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>curious if that gets chippy after what happened last game,

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of being embarrassed the Bills get chippy at all.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And the other one I thought was saucy was the

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Steelers should not beat the Chiefs on Sunday. They should not,

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that it would be a classic Ben Roethlisberger best game

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>of a season game, and now you have to consider

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>bringing him back. Well, if you want to put t J.

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Watt in the MVP race, Pittsburgh wins that and he

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>has a eight game then t. J. Watton will be

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>at least mentioned, and there have been some, you know,

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>really good seasons turned in by defensive players. Arnaldo in Maryland.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I got that right, Arnaldo? Yeah right, what's on

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it me? I actually just wanted to talk about the

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys getting on a number one seed, and you mentioned

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.799
<v Speaker 1>every other team that's the Penna four records, they'll mention

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. Why would that be? Just forgot, Arnaldo. I

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>believe they have the actually being the benefactors and having

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that weak division. I believe they have the best odds

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously the Packers or a game ahead. But I am

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a Cowboys fan too. I have to state that I

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>do have like the bias. The most covered team in

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>football by far, no matter what what year it is,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.680
<v Speaker 1>they're the most covered team, Arnaldo. And I'm sorry, I

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I it slipped my mind to mention the Cowboys. I apologize.

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Great shame, great shame. Yes, that is really interesting too,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think the average fan thinks of them

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.439
<v Speaker 1>that that in that Packers Bucks mix yet. But yeah,

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>they're right there. Yeah, sure so are the Rams. If

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to put teams up there, it's fine, good

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>with that. So I'm the one host who doesn't spend

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 1>endless hours talking about the Cowboys. Water Yeah, when they're losing.

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't spend endless hours talking about the Cowboys when

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>they're winning, all right, I'll mention when it needs to

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>be mentioned. You know, the fascinating part of the Cowboys

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is Jerry Jones just won't shut up. Like if Dak's

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>going through a slump, it's okay. You don't have to

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 1>say publicly that he's gone through a slump, Like, just stop.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's his ego is just you know, he's

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 1>the only owner hosts his own radio show or has

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>his own radio show. You know, you're not tell me.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, but I wouldn't want to beat Dak Prescott.

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And you know, hey, Jerry says, you're you know, slump

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, And and then he was he's talking about

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the receivers running the wrong routes. I go easy, Jerry,

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like somebody gave him, you know, football for dummies,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you know kind of tutorial. And he's like, you know

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 1>they're rounding off their routes there, you know, if you're

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna take the top off the defense, Yes, mcclub they

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>do have an unremarkable schedule here. They beat the Giants

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 1>with Mike Lennon twenty one six, they edged the beat

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>up Washington football team, and they only beat New Orleans.

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>He's tasting health through about eight interceptions with a broken

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>finger in the second half. That was very close. They

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 1>haven't really been the juggernaut from early in the season. No,

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.919
<v Speaker 1>but they're still dangerous because I got two really good

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive players, and I like dak Um you got, you

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>got a good running game. Overall, you've got some good weapons.

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on, you know, the Cowboys out coaching anybody,

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>but they're they're they're a talented team in a really

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>bad division. So tomorrow Cowboys for three hours. That's a

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>different show. Yes, zing, I'm just gonna ask Steve Young

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>about the Cowboys coming up next time. Don't forget Lebron

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 1>and Lebron uh final hour coming up? Come on, let's go.

0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:42.440
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