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Speaker 1: I got an interview that I recorded with the former
Speaker 1: Steeler linebacker Ryan Shazier. He discusses the journey after his
Speaker 1: career ending injury, and also we take you behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of one of our rejected calendar pictures, Fritzie mclovin
Speaker 1: try to portray Simon and Garfunkel. So that'll be on
Speaker 1: the newsletter later today. It's usually released around five Eastern time.
Speaker 1: Whole question, Nickolobin, what are we going with an hour
Speaker 1: or two? Okay? Our one was which vacancy would you
Speaker 1: want Raiders, Jag or Bears. The Raiders run away with it.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. You could build around
Speaker 1: one young wide receiver in the NFL. Who are you taking?
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is twenty two, Jamar Chase is twenty one,
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf twenty four, and maybe Deebo Samuel twenty five?
Speaker 1: That's a twenty five and under a crew. Jaylen Waddle
Speaker 1: and DeVante Smith I think are too young. So I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if there's anyone else that jumps to mind.
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool not quite there. Well, if you're gonna put
Speaker 1: in Jamar Chase, and you gotta put in Jaalen Waddle
Speaker 1: because why would you think he's that and that he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a hundred catches? Yeah, I mean they came
Speaker 1: out in the same draft. I still think everyone would
Speaker 1: pick Chase over him right now? Probably, yes, Well, you
Speaker 1: don't focus on the Dolphins. It's one of those where
Speaker 1: you look at two his numbers and you go, those
Speaker 1: are decent numbers. Waddle has had a really good year,
Speaker 1: a quiet year because they weren't winning. Now they're winning.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm taking Justin Jefferson because he's proven it now.
Speaker 1: You know, for two seasons, Chase started out great, kind
Speaker 1: of cooled off, I think, but yeah, i'd probably DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1: I just I think there's a fascination and he'll always
Speaker 1: have highlights. I don't know if he's going to be
Speaker 1: a great receiver. I just don't know. You know, you
Speaker 1: have to be able to run routes. You can be
Speaker 1: physically imposing, you can be fast, you can be strong.
Speaker 1: You look at guys who kind of defy logic. They
Speaker 1: ran routes really well, precise, great hands, consistent. You know,
Speaker 1: he got a lot of receivers who just want that
Speaker 1: home run ball that you got to do the dirty
Speaker 1: work too. And I don't know if DK Metcalf is
Speaker 1: in that system, you know, if he's the right guy
Speaker 1: to do something like that, or it might be one
Speaker 1: of those guys that goes, hey, he had two catches
Speaker 1: and one was for sixty four yards on the club.
Speaker 1: We already got to note ceed Lambs twenty two seeing
Speaker 1: that list too. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if they spread the wealth there, but
Speaker 1: it feels like he's, you know, he's a number one receiver.
Speaker 1: He makes plays. You know, you have to clear your
Speaker 1: schedule now with what's going on with COVID, because the
Speaker 1: NFL moved two games to tonight because of teams dealing
Speaker 1: with COVID, And you know, both of these games have
Speaker 1: playoff implications. With the win over Seattle, the Rams will
Speaker 1: take sole possession of first place in the NFC West.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Washington are both in the running, as is
Speaker 1: everybody for a wild card card spot. The Rams have Seattle,
Speaker 1: then they're at the Vikings and at the Ravens closing
Speaker 1: out their season. But you know, these games will feature
Speaker 1: a lot of players you probably never heard of. All
Speaker 1: four will be starting multiple backups here, and the quality
Speaker 1: of play doesn't appear to be a big concern for
Speaker 1: the NFL. The schedule change has led to shortened weeks
Speaker 1: across the NFL, and all four teams will be forced
Speaker 1: to play on four days rest next week, which leaves
Speaker 1: them very little time to game plan, even less time
Speaker 1: for the players to rest. And it's far from ideal.
Speaker 1: You're making a final playoff push, and this just comes
Speaker 1: down to mental toughness, you know, just the health of
Speaker 1: your roster. It's it's a battle of attrition and it
Speaker 1: was that with a sixteen game schedule. Now you add
Speaker 1: a seventeenth and you just hope that teams are able
Speaker 1: to field something that resembles who they really are, because
Speaker 1: that's the shame if somebody would miss out because you know,
Speaker 1: a shortened work week, or you know their their roster
Speaker 1: is greatly reduced to their star players. But that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: The NFL is going to plow a him. I think
Speaker 1: Mike Florio pointed this out that the NFL is playing
Speaker 1: these games and they don't care who's playing in these games.
Speaker 1: They just want to get to the postseason. And I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe you do away with Week seventeen and be fair
Speaker 1: to the teams going into the playoffs. I know we'd
Speaker 1: love to have the seventeenth game, but do you want
Speaker 1: to have quality play in the playoffs? Do you want
Speaker 1: to have guys who have been injured had that opportunity
Speaker 1: level the playing field for everybody. But the NFL has
Speaker 1: no interest in that. It's full speed ahead. We're getting
Speaker 1: these games in no matter what. Yeah, Paul I saw
Speaker 1: the interview with Doctor Sill's NFL's doctor with Jeremy Shappan.
Speaker 1: He said, the policy is when you come to the facility.
Speaker 1: If you're vaccinated, you are not tested unless you voluntary
Speaker 1: walk up to a medical staffer and say I've got
Speaker 1: an issue, I want to be tested, I feel something,
Speaker 1: And otherwise you just go about your business. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't have to tell anybody anything. If you have symptoms,
Speaker 1: then if you want to come forward. I think it
Speaker 1: encourages players to not say anything. And it feels like
Speaker 1: the NFL is quietly okay with this, like all right,
Speaker 1: you know we're not going to test. If you feel bad,
Speaker 1: you know you got flu like symptoms, then just let
Speaker 1: us know. And I talked to a doctor, this was
Speaker 1: two days ago, and he said, you know how contagious
Speaker 1: this variant is right now, but it in his mind,
Speaker 1: is going to burn off in about a month. But
Speaker 1: it's going to be this this tidal wave. But it's
Speaker 1: not going to hospitalize people. It doesn't infect your lungs.
Speaker 1: And because I was curious because I have autoimmune issues
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to make sure because I've had
Speaker 1: the shots and I had the booster, and he said,
Speaker 1: you've done everything you can do. If you do get it,
Speaker 1: you're probably going to feel like you have the flu.
Speaker 1: That's that's what we're seeing is pretty much the prevalent
Speaker 1: feeling that that people have. So you know, for whatever
Speaker 1: that means, but it feels like in a month's time
Speaker 1: that maybe there is some relief there. But that's coming
Speaker 1: from a doctor who's involved in this field. Yes, mclove.
Speaker 1: Is it interesting how a lot of what I seem
Speaker 1: to know about this is through the sports world, you know,
Speaker 1: that's where it starts with all these NBA and NFL
Speaker 1: and NHL players get it. But this is playing out
Speaker 1: on TV for us that we know people who have
Speaker 1: this and how it affects players or teams. Twitter, it's
Speaker 1: playing out. Everybody has an opinion. You know. There was
Speaker 1: a story that was going around yesterday that you know,
Speaker 1: you had Mark Davis, the Las Vegas Raiders owner. He
Speaker 1: complained that his team was given a competitive disadvantage because
Speaker 1: the game was moved another day for the Cleveland game,
Speaker 1: and the Raiders cornerback Casey Hayward. He wondered on Twitter
Speaker 1: if the Browns got a break and they were able
Speaker 1: to move it till last night because JC Tretter, who's
Speaker 1: the starting center for the Browns, is the NFL Players
Speaker 1: Association president So there's a lot of things going on here.
Speaker 1: It's not simple. And now you've got people wondering if
Speaker 1: somebody's getting favors with the NFL Players Association. Yeah, mclev.
Speaker 1: There's also a report the Philadelphia Eagles ownership and management
Speaker 1: when nuclear on the NFL for moving the Big Game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I understand it. I understand it from their perspective
Speaker 1: or like we're doing everything now you're going to give
Speaker 1: them an extra day that you're going to allow them
Speaker 1: to get healthier, and they're probably saying, why why can't
Speaker 1: we play the game when we're supposed to play the
Speaker 1: game with whoever is available to play. And I think
Speaker 1: that there's there's concern. I gotta be careful in how
Speaker 1: I describe this that certain teams are benefiting from this
Speaker 1: and they shouldn't. That if you if you do what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and you know you're going to
Speaker 1: have an outbreak of COVID, But the question is, as
Speaker 1: you know, how many does it take before you move
Speaker 1: the game, And it should be similar numbers for both teams.
Speaker 1: Because it felt like Washington was devastated by this and
Speaker 1: the Eagles not as much. But then this game got
Speaker 1: moved to Tuesday, all right, eight seven seven three D
Speaker 1: show email ADDRESSDP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle
Speaker 1: a TP show. Rick Stroud, who does a great job
Speaker 1: covering the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times, he was
Speaker 1: with us yesterday and I wondered Chris Godwin's out for
Speaker 1: the year with the torn ACL Mike Evans is a
Speaker 1: little banged up with a hamstring injury, and I wondered
Speaker 1: that if those guys were healthy, are they bringing Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown back? And Rick Stroud said, what Tom Brady wants,
Speaker 1: tom Brady gets. Tom Brady wants Antonio Brown back. Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: Buccaneers head coach, is tired of the topic. What was
Speaker 1: the decision making process for you? Like knowing that some
Speaker 1: people might go back to those comments you publicly about
Speaker 1: Brown and say, wait a minute, hasn't this guy had
Speaker 1: enough chances? I could give it what they think. The
Speaker 1: only thing I care about this football team and what's
Speaker 1: best for us. It's a fair question. He told us
Speaker 1: last week that you know it could go either way.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what it came down to. You know,
Speaker 1: we know what Antonio Brown did. He did serve three
Speaker 1: games suspension, but you know, Tom Brady wanted to keep
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in New England and he's not letting go
Speaker 1: of Antonio Brown for whatever reason. Well, the reason is
Speaker 1: he knows he's still a valuable football player. Yes, Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians has been pretty consistent though, saying he always says
Speaker 1: that one line, We're going to do what's best for
Speaker 1: the football team. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I mean
Speaker 1: his job is to win games. He's not worried about
Speaker 1: being popular. He wants to win football games. Ye. And
Speaker 1: the national reaction and local reactions usually quite different. Now,
Speaker 1: national is more judgmental because we don't care if the
Speaker 1: Tampa wins a loser. But Tampa, the local fans, they're like,
Speaker 1: just get him on the field. Yeah, we'll deal with
Speaker 1: issues later. Yeah. Everybody, it feels like, has a with
Speaker 1: their favorite team. There's a player that you love that
Speaker 1: they're on your team, but you would hate that player
Speaker 1: if he was playing against your team. I mean, I
Speaker 1: grew up with the Cincinnati Reds with Pete Rose. Loved
Speaker 1: Pete played hard, winning his player in baseball history. But
Speaker 1: if I was a fan of somebody else's playing against
Speaker 1: you know, the Big Red Machine with Pete Rose, I'd
Speaker 1: hate Pete Rose, but he was my guy and loved him.
Speaker 1: But there's always that guy, that agitator. Yeah, Paul. There
Speaker 1: are some athletes, though, that are so good at what
Speaker 1: they do that they both bother you and your respect.
Speaker 1: I was a Cubs fan, obviously, but when Mike Schmidt
Speaker 1: would come to town, I hated what he did to
Speaker 1: the Cubs. We're like, man, he's good. I would do
Speaker 1: anything to have Mike Schmidt on my baseball team. And
Speaker 1: I think there's certain athletes like that. Jeff and Indiana
Speaker 1: leads his song, Hey, Jeff, what's on your mind today? Hey?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Fellas? Hey? Shout out to the dance
Speaker 1: and you guys chirp chirp for BSU fly to w
Speaker 1: for the Cubs. Hey, I got three quick things. One
Speaker 1: I actually used to date because of the Chicago quarterback
Speaker 1: I won't say the name for a long time. Actually
Speaker 1: mother's nephew. But we broke up because of the same
Speaker 1: thing Chicago had problems with. I didn't have enough execution. Secondly,
Speaker 1: night he him, didn't he get a good contract from
Speaker 1: the coach. Yet he's out performing like Taylor. Yet Taylor's
Speaker 1: a better running back. And thirdly, you guys are talking
Speaker 1: about taking a blowout and equated it to a girlfriend
Speaker 1: dumping you. Forget that man, blow up the DM that way.
Speaker 1: No one knows love you guys. Thank you. Jeff kind
Speaker 1: of felt a little all over the place there. Journalists
Speaker 1: blow Anthony, who claims to have spoken to a source
Speaker 1: with knowledge from someone close to Woods, says Tiger is struggling.
Speaker 1: Did he date somebody's cousin's sister who's was the Bears quarterback?
Speaker 1: Did I get that, Lenny and Troy lack of execution? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and in rehearsal it was great. Yeah, I bet when
Speaker 1: he was in this car, like I got this, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna crushed. Okay here, I'm gonna say it this no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm gonna say it thing. No, no, it's
Speaker 1: gonna kill He's rehearsing in a stoplight there, yeah, drive
Speaker 1: up right by him. He's they're talking to himself. And
Speaker 1: then I'm and I dated the sister of the cousin
Speaker 1: of the quarterback of the Bears. And lack of execute
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not easy. You got about
Speaker 1: thirty seconds to nail it. You know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure and you got all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: hear your name and get buzzed in. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta do it now. Well Todd can't do it,
Speaker 1: and he's a professional cannot No, you're not, I never
Speaker 1: will not able to do it. You guys ever call
Speaker 1: into a radio station before Nick Levin, I randomly did
Speaker 1: to w IP in Philadelphia. They did a night where
Speaker 1: there who is the ugliest professional athlete? And it was
Speaker 1: so funny that I had to weigh in, and I
Speaker 1: said Paul mcktski of the Box Big Moe. And they
Speaker 1: also had Randy Brewer and Alton Lister, who are not
Speaker 1: exactly mattenee idols. Remember that era of Milwaukee bus. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you had to be seven foot and ugly. Um who else?
Speaker 1: Willie McGhee always gets votes there, Oh he was on
Speaker 1: that show. Yeah. But by the way, I could barely breathe.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous. It was a nighttime shift at
Speaker 1: w I paid, and I was sixteen. It was terrifying.
Speaker 1: I tried to call in. I never got in. Um
Speaker 1: Bob Trumpy, former tight end of the Cincinnati Bengals, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'd i'd call, I'd be like die on
Speaker 1: you didn't you know, you didn't have speed dialing, you know,
Speaker 1: you just had to pound those numbers or you had
Speaker 1: to go the old phones there, the rotary phones. But
Speaker 1: never got in. I thought, oh, I'm gonna show this
Speaker 1: guy I know sports there, never got into to tell
Speaker 1: him that Paul you Yeah, in Chicago. I was probably eleven,
Speaker 1: so my voice hadn't changed yet. And remember guy named
Speaker 1: chet Copic. Oh yeah, great old chet shit chit check coming.
Speaker 1: He was a classic Chicago sports host. And I got
Speaker 1: on and my little and he's got this booming voice.
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think that very fensic is
Speaker 1: going to be healthy for the playoffs? He not talking
Speaker 1: about Fensic tonight, kiddo, but we'll talk about that after
Speaker 1: the BA He blew off my call because of a
Speaker 1: stupid question, but yeah, you can think he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Uh so you were Jake before Jake totally Jake. Yeah, yes, McLevin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it was Chet me about it,
Speaker 1: like Dan, I know, I know, I know, as my
Speaker 1: wife says, not everybody gets your sense of humor. And
Speaker 1: that was a classic moment there. Uh, you were just
Speaker 1: being funny with Jake I was trying to be funny.
Speaker 1: I was trying like, oh no, Jake, we're not talking
Speaker 1: about that. I was just trying too just and I went, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, like I'm supposed to do. Really wait, wait, Jake,
Speaker 1: don't overreact like this. You're you're better than that. Rights
Speaker 1: give my opinion. I know, I'm kidding. It's worse. It's
Speaker 1: worse than I remember it is. It is. I just
Speaker 1: given my opinion like i'm supposed to. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: tell a nine year old you're better than that? Yes?
Speaker 1: You did, Jake, don't overreact. All right, you're better than that.
Speaker 1: Just trying to give my opinion like I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1: And that's why you're probably surprised that my four kids
Speaker 1: have grown up with some normalcy. That I once said
Speaker 1: to them, if nobody beats me in a foot race,
Speaker 1: there's no gifts for Christmas. I once said that to them.
Speaker 1: It's a challenge. I did front yard and I said,
Speaker 1: are you because they're like, hey, let's have a race,
Speaker 1: And I said, all right, if you guys, don't, if
Speaker 1: nobody beats me, no gifts for Christmas. And and so
Speaker 1: my wife goes, what are you doing? I go that
Speaker 1: gotta learn, and she goes, no, that that this isn't
Speaker 1: how you learn. Is that like a Christmas tradition in
Speaker 1: the Midwest somewhere that we don't know about the Great
Speaker 1: Christmas Race. I didn't even have a race and I
Speaker 1: didn't get gifts when I was growing up. Kids who won?
Speaker 1: I did? You did? Yeah? And then where they crying tears?
Speaker 1: Oh it was God? Once again. Not everybody gets my
Speaker 1: sense of humor. Yes, you know, Jake's well on his
Speaker 1: way to becoming the youngest general manager NBA. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: incredibly impressive. A kick, Yes, yeah, Jake the Oracle probably
Speaker 1: partially dude to getting tough and up when you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like Urban Meyer. You know these guys
Speaker 1: are soft. Now you're welcome, Jake. I may kick you
Speaker 1: during the break, Todd first time. Let's take a break, meadhead.
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Speaker 1: you are. He's the host of the Ross Tucker Football podcast,
Speaker 1: and he was the color analyst for the Raiders Browns
Speaker 1: game last night on Westwood One. He'll be going to
Speaker 1: the Eagles game. He'll be doing pregame for that tonight
Speaker 1: ahead of Washington versus Philadelphia. How are you feeling. I'm
Speaker 1: doing fine, man. It's football season. I got about a
Speaker 1: month more to push through. Although I will tell you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't often do what I did yesterday. I mean
Speaker 1: I live in central Pennsylvania, the Harrisburg Hershey area. I
Speaker 1: drove out to Cleveland in the morning, listen to you
Speaker 1: guys the whole way. The mclovin's friend that came up
Speaker 1: to you during taps had me rolling, but I listening
Speaker 1: to the whole way out five hours. I got to
Speaker 1: the hotel, worked out, showered, did the game, and then
Speaker 1: just drove home. Got home at like two am. Last night.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like staying over. I had too much
Speaker 1: stuff to do. I don't I don't often do that,
Speaker 1: and I don't often Dan go to a game not
Speaker 1: knowing who was going to play in the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I really like, like I've heard of a game time
Speaker 1: decision before, we're now getting we're in the era of
Speaker 1: a lab time decision. Like I was waiting to hear
Speaker 1: back from the lab to see who would be the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns three hours before the game.
Speaker 1: Do you think players just don't want to be tested anymore, Like,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just go, let's just you know, we're
Speaker 1: in the home stretch, and who cares if somebody test
Speaker 1: positive or got flu like symptoms or they're asymptomatic. Does
Speaker 1: the NFL care? Well? I think there are some players
Speaker 1: that do, and those players had been previously pushing for
Speaker 1: daily testing. I think the majority of the players at
Speaker 1: this point are like, you know what, I'm vaccinated, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm boosted, maybe I'm not. You know, eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the guys they're testing positive now are asymptomatic. Like, we
Speaker 1: got to play these games because Dan, it's kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: right the game was supposed to be Saturday at four thirty.
Speaker 1: They postponed it forty eight hours. The Browns got three
Speaker 1: guys back, Whyatt Teller as well as Tach McKinley and
Speaker 1: John Johnson. But they lost Jadevion Clowney and they're starting
Speaker 1: right tackle James Hudson in those forty eight hours. So
Speaker 1: the Browns got a net one more guy, Dan, one
Speaker 1: more guy. So they moved the whole The NFL moved
Speaker 1: everything forty eight hours for one extra player for the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I'll tell you what's really weird now. The
Speaker 1: two things we got to talk about. Number One, they're
Speaker 1: not testing guys unless you have symptoms. Well, guess what
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna say they have symptoms. Can you imagine me
Speaker 1: an NFL offensive lineman and what your offensive line coach
Speaker 1: of saydie if you came in said, uh, yeah, trainer,
Speaker 1: I have the sniffles. I mean, they would look at
Speaker 1: you like you have three heads. But then I just
Speaker 1: found out yesterday I didn't realize this. Do you know
Speaker 1: They're still gonna do some random testing though, like almost
Speaker 1: like you're at the airport and it's tsa pre check
Speaker 1: and you go through and you get buzz and you're like,
Speaker 1: I don't have any metal. I mean, they're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: it's just a random they're doing random, which I think
Speaker 1: dan presents a real issue, Like what if next week
Speaker 1: they randomly get a starting quarterback and he's positive. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the team they're playing, the only guy they randomly test
Speaker 1: is the practice squad punter. I think when you do
Speaker 1: things randomly like that, it opens you up to criticism
Speaker 1: and skepticism about how random it really is. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they did that. Can you refuse? I don't know. Is
Speaker 1: it like when you get pulled over for a DUI
Speaker 1: or something you're you're refusing the breathalyzer. By the way,
Speaker 1: I heard you guys talking about that yesterday too. But
Speaker 1: my point is is, um no, I don't think you
Speaker 1: can refuse. That's a great question. What are they going
Speaker 1: to do if you do refuse? If you do refuse,
Speaker 1: they say you're a positive or they find you that's
Speaker 1: a that's actually an amazing question. We're talking to Ross
Speaker 1: Tucker and the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Also, let's see
Speaker 1: at Rosstucker NFL. That's so where he is on social media.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of things. Let's start with Cleveland.
Speaker 1: How bad are things in Cleveland and how much worse
Speaker 1: is it gonna get? Well? I think things are going
Speaker 1: to get better in the sense that they'll get a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys off the COVID list. The problem
Speaker 1: is their schedules brutal. I mean, everybody in the AFC
Speaker 1: North is they got to play the Packers on Christmas
Speaker 1: Day on Saturday. Now, I think they'll get Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and some of these guys back by Saturday. But I
Speaker 1: guess you don't know how long it takes for the
Speaker 1: virus to get out of your body so that you
Speaker 1: don't test positive. That was a huge loss last night.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember ever calling a game. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that were surprising last night, but
Speaker 1: I can't remember calling a game where if the team won,
Speaker 1: they were in first place in their division and they
Speaker 1: were the four seed. But because Derek Carr led the
Speaker 1: Raiders for that field goal late and the Browns lost
Speaker 1: Dan that the twelve seed. Now they went from the
Speaker 1: four seed to the twelve seed. I've never heard of that,
Speaker 1: and it's because there's about twenty five teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL that have seven or eight wins right now. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And you look at the whole AFC North, they all
Speaker 1: have tough schedules moving forward. It kind of feels like
Speaker 1: the Bengals are the team with the best chance right now.
Speaker 1: The Ravens are kind of reeling, Steelers are still kind
Speaker 1: of beat up. The only thing I thought I knew
Speaker 1: before the season was that the Bengals would be the
Speaker 1: worst team in the AFC North and they might end
Speaker 1: up winning the division. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the Cleveland Browns if they don't make the playoffs, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you assess Baker Mayfield for that next big
Speaker 1: contract that kind of hanging over the franchise. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're going to give them one. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you remember after the Lions
Speaker 1: game him they won and he didn't talk to the
Speaker 1: media the day after the game and his wife had
Speaker 1: a social media post. And then even last week when
Speaker 1: they beat the Ravens, he talked about how they were
Speaker 1: too conservative. He talked about internal things like what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I mean, what's he First of all, this
Speaker 1: is the worst he's played in a while. But secondly,
Speaker 1: why is he going back to a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago when he's saying things in the media that just
Speaker 1: don't help the team, internal things, calling out the coaching
Speaker 1: staff when being too conservative. My read on it is,
Speaker 1: I think that the contract things bothering him. I think
Speaker 1: that he's seen what happened with Josh Allen. I think
Speaker 1: he probably has a feeling that maybe the organization doesn't
Speaker 1: love him, and that's got to be hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's always had the chip on his shoulder. He walks
Speaker 1: on a Texas Tech, they don't love him, he leaves,
Speaker 1: he goes to Oklahoma. It's got to be telling to
Speaker 1: be a number one overall pick a year ago. He's
Speaker 1: the toast of the town and the Browns are And
Speaker 1: I think on some level, part of this build up
Speaker 1: is because he's getting nervous that they're not going to
Speaker 1: make him the guy, They're not going to give him
Speaker 1: the long term deal. Yeah. I just wonder what the
Speaker 1: Browns how they assess this. And I was surprised when
Speaker 1: he talked about he talked about something internal and it
Speaker 1: felt like there was a disconnect with him and Kevin Stefanski,
Speaker 1: the head coach. It feels like Baker's involved in all
Speaker 1: of these controversies. You know, it's Odell Beckham. It's play calling,
Speaker 1: wanting to play, I decide if I'm going to play
Speaker 1: or not. And I think it just there's a little
Speaker 1: too much there for me and not enough production that
Speaker 1: I can put up with this. If you give me
Speaker 1: that and it right now, then that's a balancing act
Speaker 1: that I don't like well. And to add on to that, Okay,
Speaker 1: they won both of those games. To me, Dan as
Speaker 1: a former player, I'm an offensive lineman. Why is he
Speaker 1: creating drama after wins? I mean, we should be happy
Speaker 1: we won the game. And yet against the Lion they
Speaker 1: didn't score very many points, they didn't talk to the media,
Speaker 1: and against the raven they let the Ravens come back.
Speaker 1: They had so he says internal things, these are wins.
Speaker 1: Why that's the part of it that probably bothers me
Speaker 1: the most. I was wondering about the job openings you got.
Speaker 1: The Raiders will be opened, The Bears are open, the
Speaker 1: Jags are open. If I gave you all three to
Speaker 1: choose from door number one, two or three, I think
Speaker 1: I think I might go Raiders one and that will
Speaker 1: surprise people. I took the Raiders too. I think Derek
Speaker 1: Carr's a top ten quarterback in the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was impressed by him again last night. You know,
Speaker 1: they dropped a bunch of passes. His old lines now great.
Speaker 1: They typically can't run the ball a lick. He's been
Speaker 1: under pressure forever. I think he's I don't know, the eighth, ninth, tenth,
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFL. I'm gonna I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with that, right. I mean, I think you could say
Speaker 1: the Jaguars entry point is better because anything after urban
Speaker 1: Meyer will be a positive. They'll be patient with you.
Speaker 1: You have Trevor Lawrence. But I'm not sure that Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to be a top ten quarterback. I
Speaker 1: already know that Derek Carr is. And they were rolling
Speaker 1: this year until they had the Grooden drama, the Henry
Speaker 1: Ruggs accident, you know, getting rid of our net. They
Speaker 1: just had a lot of drama this year. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you get a good coach in there, you stop the drama.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders could be a playoff team next year.
Speaker 1: I mean they could be a playoff team this year.
Speaker 1: Still Chris Collinsworth brought something up on Sunday night, and
Speaker 1: it's that dirty secret that if you ask players would
Speaker 1: you rather get hit low or get hit in the head,
Speaker 1: most players would probably say hit me in the head.
Speaker 1: I can lose a you know, I can be out
Speaker 1: for a game as opposed to I can be out
Speaker 1: for the season. Like Chris Godwin, if I ask him today, hey,
Speaker 1: would you rather get hit low or get hit high?
Speaker 1: He's gonna say, I'll take the concussion here. The NFL
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear this, or doesn't want us to
Speaker 1: hear this. But players feel this way, like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got a concussion. If I get a torn ACL, I'm done.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on this? If I if I
Speaker 1: took you back to when you're twenty six years of
Speaker 1: age and I said, hey, they can hit you low
Speaker 1: or they gonna hit you up high, Well, you know
Speaker 1: a couple of things. First of all, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be in either or proposition, right, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can hit a guy high, but not be in the head.
Speaker 1: You know you should the target should be above the
Speaker 1: knee to the shoulder. I mean neither shoulder should be
Speaker 1: a pretty big target range. But Ross. Let's be fair.
Speaker 1: This is like the strike zone in baseball where they go, oh,
Speaker 1: it's from the knees to the armpits. It's not. It's
Speaker 1: it's far smaller than that. And these defensive players, if
Speaker 1: you're playing it and it moves so fast, I may
Speaker 1: accidentally hit you and you know, get fined or suspended.
Speaker 1: I hit you in the helmet, I get it. I
Speaker 1: can get tossed from the game. It's just they haven't
Speaker 1: the playing fields not level for what a defensive player
Speaker 1: is allowed to do well. And to your point, Dan,
Speaker 1: if I played defense, I would definitely air on the
Speaker 1: side of caution and I would go low. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want the fine, I don't want the penalty. I
Speaker 1: would go low. And to answer your question, because they've
Speaker 1: actually changed this rule as of this year, but when
Speaker 1: I was playing, you get out there on a screen
Speaker 1: pass Dan, or you'd pull out to the outside and
Speaker 1: there's a corner or a safety. Those guys would come
Speaker 1: flying up and they would dive at your knees. That's
Speaker 1: what they were taught because they can't go up high.
Speaker 1: If they go up high, you're gonna just grab him
Speaker 1: and throw him. So Dbs used to go up my knees.
Speaker 1: I hated that. I would much rather of them come
Speaker 1: high at me. It hit me in the head. I
Speaker 1: have a huge head. You guys know that I'd much
Speaker 1: rather them hit me in the head than go low.
Speaker 1: They've actually changed that rule that outside the tight end
Speaker 1: box they can't go low anymore. And the dbs don't
Speaker 1: really even know what to do. If I watched a
Speaker 1: flag get thrown this weekend where there was a five
Speaker 1: foot tent defensive back and he had a six five
Speaker 1: lineman and he couldn't do anything, he had to basically
Speaker 1: say go ahead and steam roll me. Because he couldn't,
Speaker 1: he went low and he got flagged for that. Because
Speaker 1: there's no other place like you can't go up top
Speaker 1: with a lineman. No, no, I mean that's just physics.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna work. What those guys really have to
Speaker 1: do is they gotta just try to make you miss.
Speaker 1: You know, they got a jab inside pop back outside.
Speaker 1: They can't take you on at all, But they used
Speaker 1: to be taught take the lineman down right there and
Speaker 1: create a pile. Do you ever get knocked out? Never unconscious?
Speaker 1: And in fact, when I played, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: really think we thought it was a concussion unless you
Speaker 1: were knocked unconscious. I've seen multiple guys on the field
Speaker 1: a sleep like a baby. At one guy in college
Speaker 1: at a night game, and one time Drew Bledsoe we
Speaker 1: were playing at the Metal Lands Dan. He was laying
Speaker 1: on like the forty two yard line like this, like
Speaker 1: a sleep like a baby. And by the way, he
Speaker 1: might have came back into that game. Now that I
Speaker 1: think about it, I'm not even sure just to tell
Speaker 1: you how different it was, but I do know in
Speaker 1: hindsight several concussions that I got. But back then it
Speaker 1: was just like you kind of just saw stars and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, that was crazy, but you just
Speaker 1: kept playing. You didn't really know that that was a concussion,
Speaker 1: and you should say something and you should come out
Speaker 1: of the game. Most important game for which team tonight? Seahawks, Rams,
Speaker 1: Washington Eagles. Out of those four, who has to win? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say the Eagles. I would say the Eagles.
Speaker 1: You know, if the Rams win, then they're right there
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals, which is great, but if they lose,
Speaker 1: they're still going to be the five seat in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Seattle is not going to be able to get back
Speaker 1: into it. There's too many teams with seven wins now
Speaker 1: for Washington, I mean as of right now. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens at four pm, but as of right now,
Speaker 1: they have like sixteen, eighteen guys whatever it is on
Speaker 1: the COVID list. Eagles have to win this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are coming off of a bye. They're playing
Speaker 1: against a team has a bunch of guys on the
Speaker 1: COVID list, including their top two quarterbacks. The Eagles. If
Speaker 1: they win, then they're seven and seven right there in
Speaker 1: the playoff mix. Eagles have to win tonight. There's there's
Speaker 1: no way around it. Always great to catch up with
Speaker 1: you and hopefully you get a breather here next couple
Speaker 1: of days, and I roll on Christmas. Thank you, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm Merry Christmas to you, buddy, And thanks you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, that's Ross Tucker, host of the Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: Football podcast. He works for CBS Westwood One. Did the
Speaker 1: Browns Raiders last night. It's got the Eagles pregame tonight
Speaker 1: against Washington. We'll take break phone calls coming up. The
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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke and the Washington football team had to Dallas
Speaker 1: to take on Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. NFC Showdown
Speaker 1: Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. One of the
Speaker 1: common ingredients for most Super Bowl teams is staying healthy.
Speaker 1: Last year, if you remember, the Buccaneers had almost their
Speaker 1: entire team available for the playoffs, and that kind of
Speaker 1: luck doesn't normally happen, or it doesn't last very long.
Speaker 1: And Tampa's now scrambling after the shocking shutout laws at
Speaker 1: home to the Saints. They learned yesterday Chris god went
Speaker 1: out for the season torn ecl Mike Evans has a
Speaker 1: hamstring injuries day to day. Leonard Fournette also has a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. He could miss some time. Tom Brady looked
Speaker 1: miserable on Sunday without his weapons, and hopefully evans injury
Speaker 1: won't linger. But you know Brady's going to get Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown back and he wants him back, so he's coming back.
Speaker 1: You know, the Bucks have two games against the Panthers
Speaker 1: and one against the Jets, and you know then they'll
Speaker 1: finish the regular season. So let's say they end up
Speaker 1: with but twelve wins. McLevin, they maybe thirteen if they
Speaker 1: win all three. Does that sound right? Yes? I believe so. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they have two games against the Panthers, one against
Speaker 1: the Jets, and there's time to write the ship. The
Speaker 1: question is how healthy are they going to be when
Speaker 1: they get to the postseason and are you going to
Speaker 1: be able to have that number one seed in the NFC.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's going to be green Bay, is
Speaker 1: that right? Thirteen and four and green Bay? What's green
Speaker 1: Bay's schedule? I know they have Cleveland coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1: I think they got Detroit and the Vikings. Does that
Speaker 1: sound right? The last two games Vikings and then Detroit?
Speaker 1: All right? Yes, So they have the Viking and at Detroit, okay,
Speaker 1: And if they win two of three, they're gonna end
Speaker 1: up at thirteen wins. Yeah, I believe so, which would
Speaker 1: give them? And do they have the tiebreaker? Were you
Speaker 1: just saying that sorry over the Bucks because there was
Speaker 1: let me see, yes, PAULI, this is a really good
Speaker 1: schedule coming up the next few days. Thursday, you have
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Titans, both still playoff eligible, like you said,
Speaker 1: Brown's Packers, Colts Cardinals on Christmas Night eight and six
Speaker 1: Colts ten and four Cardinals. Cardinals could lose the division
Speaker 1: with that game. Buffalo at New England yep, Baltimore at
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is spicy, and San Francisco at Tennessee Thursday night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that's one of those games that you're gonna
Speaker 1: maybe figure out, you know, what these teams are, because
Speaker 1: right now I'm not sure San Francisco is winning. I
Speaker 1: just don't know how good they are in Tennessee looked
Speaker 1: great and now they they looked very beatable. Yeah, McLevin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Packers have every edge to get that number one seed,
Speaker 1: but the number two seat will play one of these
Speaker 1: bad teams like they're watching football team or Vikings. Is
Speaker 1: that so much of a penalty this year? Do you think, um, well,
Speaker 1: didn't Tampa have trouble with Washington? There it is. That's
Speaker 1: a great point. I mean Tampa had trouble with the Saints.
Speaker 1: They had more trouble with Washington than they did with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Yeah. Yeah, Paul. Sunday Bills at Patriots. I'm
Speaker 1: curious if that gets chippy after what happened last game,
Speaker 1: kind of being embarrassed the Bills get chippy at all.
Speaker 1: And the other one I thought was saucy was the
Speaker 1: Steelers should not beat the Chiefs on Sunday. They should not,
Speaker 1: that it would be a classic Ben Roethlisberger best game
Speaker 1: of a season game, and now you have to consider
Speaker 1: bringing him back. Well, if you want to put t J.
Speaker 1: Watt in the MVP race, Pittsburgh wins that and he
Speaker 1: has a eight game then t. J. Watton will be
Speaker 1: at least mentioned, and there have been some, you know,
Speaker 1: really good seasons turned in by defensive players. Arnaldo in Maryland.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I got that right, Arnaldo? Yeah right, what's on
Speaker 1: it me? I actually just wanted to talk about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys getting on a number one seed, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: every other team that's the Penna four records, they'll mention
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Why would that be? Just forgot, Arnaldo. I
Speaker 1: believe they have the actually being the benefactors and having
Speaker 1: that weak division. I believe they have the best odds
Speaker 1: obviously the Packers or a game ahead. But I am
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan too. I have to state that I
Speaker 1: do have like the bias. The most covered team in
Speaker 1: football by far, no matter what what year it is,
Speaker 1: they're the most covered team, Arnaldo. And I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: I it slipped my mind to mention the Cowboys. I apologize.
Speaker 1: Great shame, great shame. Yes, that is really interesting too,
Speaker 1: because I don't think the average fan thinks of them
Speaker 1: that that in that Packers Bucks mix yet. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're right there. Yeah, sure so are the Rams. If
Speaker 1: you want to put teams up there, it's fine, good
Speaker 1: with that. So I'm the one host who doesn't spend
Speaker 1: endless hours talking about the Cowboys. Water Yeah, when they're losing.
Speaker 1: I don't spend endless hours talking about the Cowboys when
Speaker 1: they're winning, all right, I'll mention when it needs to
Speaker 1: be mentioned. You know, the fascinating part of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: is Jerry Jones just won't shut up. Like if Dak's
Speaker 1: going through a slump, it's okay. You don't have to
Speaker 1: say publicly that he's gone through a slump, Like, just stop.
Speaker 1: You know, it's his ego is just you know, he's
Speaker 1: the only owner hosts his own radio show or has
Speaker 1: his own radio show. You know, you're not tell me.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I wouldn't want to beat Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: And you know, hey, Jerry says, you're you know, slump
Speaker 1: all right, And and then he was he's talking about
Speaker 1: the receivers running the wrong routes. I go easy, Jerry,
Speaker 1: you know, like somebody gave him, you know, football for dummies,
Speaker 1: you know kind of tutorial. And he's like, you know
Speaker 1: they're rounding off their routes there, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna take the top off the defense, Yes, mcclub they
Speaker 1: do have an unremarkable schedule here. They beat the Giants
Speaker 1: with Mike Lennon twenty one six, they edged the beat
Speaker 1: up Washington football team, and they only beat New Orleans.
Speaker 1: He's tasting health through about eight interceptions with a broken
Speaker 1: finger in the second half. That was very close. They
Speaker 1: haven't really been the juggernaut from early in the season. No,
Speaker 1: but they're still dangerous because I got two really good
Speaker 1: defensive players, and I like dak Um you got, you
Speaker 1: got a good running game. Overall, you've got some good weapons.
Speaker 1: I'm not big on, you know, the Cowboys out coaching anybody,
Speaker 1: but they're they're they're a talented team in a really
Speaker 1: bad division. So tomorrow Cowboys for three hours. That's a
Speaker 1: different show. Yes, zing, I'm just gonna ask Steve Young
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys coming up next time. Don't forget Lebron
Speaker 1: and Lebron uh final hour coming up? Come on, let's go.
Speaker 1: Every day is the Super Bowl. Come on, let's go,
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