1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Clay Travis 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. A huge, huge day in the 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: news with Roe v. Wade done. It took fifty years, 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: give or take. But here we are. We'll get into 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: all of this. I'm solo today. Clay is tending to 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: family matters. He may be joining us via phone at 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: some point during the show, depends on his obligations today. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: But this is Buck Sex then. I'm down in Florida 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: currently and I was watching live this morning as the massive, 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: massive Supreme Court decision came down, arguably the biggest Supreme 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Court decision in my lifetime, certainly in the top two 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: or three, I would think, massive decision six three here 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: two hundred page opinion released by the Court this morning. 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: So I was reading it feverishly to get through as 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: much as humanly possible before coming on air. So there's 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: a couple of ways to look at this, and we're 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: going to break down the legal aspect of it, the 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: political implications, the possibility for civil unrest from Democrats of course, 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: as we know they are despite the one time they 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: are fixated on a riot coming from their political opponents. 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: The Democrats are the riot as normal political discourse party 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: that could happen, and we'll certainly look at that. What 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: does this mean for the mid term elections as well? 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Can Democrats capitalize on this decision as a means of 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: mobilizing the Democrat base. There's so much going on here, 27 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: There's so much to look at, But I would start 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: with the very simple proposition here that life wins in 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: this case. The Supreme Court decision has not made abortion 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: illegal nationally, but it will result in and I believe 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the state of Missouri has already because it had some 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: laws ready to go in case of this decision, it 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: has effectively outlawed almost all abortions. But it does mean 34 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: that there will be far more babies born. There will 35 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: be far more children who grow up to be adults, 36 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: people who have lives that they are able to lead, 37 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: and parents who will have made the right decision and 38 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: will know that in time, even if they were scared 39 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: at first, even if it was unplanned, even if it 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: was a surprise or an inconvenient time, or any of 41 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: those things. So there will be now millions, millions of 42 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: lives over the decades to come that will occur. I mean, 43 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: it's not even to say that the wives are saved 44 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: as true. But there'll also will be people who get 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to enjoy their full lives, get to enjoy the experience 46 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: of life, and parents who will enjoy the experience of 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: their children of being parents as a result of this decision. Now, 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: there will still be abortion in New York and California, 49 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: and Colorado just recently passed a radical state level abortion 50 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: law abortion all nine months of her pregnancy. But in 51 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: this six three decision, the critical change here is that 52 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: both Row and Casey were overruled. Both Rowe and Casey 53 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: were found to be bad law. Rov Wade and planned 54 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: parent whould be Casey. Now, there's a lot of intricate 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: legal analysis when you read this opinion authored by Aldo 56 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: in the majority. When you read this opinion, you find 57 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: yourself saying, it's stunning. Honestly, at this point in time, 58 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: it is stunning to look back and see how flimsy 59 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: and dishonest and obtuse and just the whole Row regime 60 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: was built on lies. The legal analysis was preposterous. It 61 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: can't even begin to hold up to rational scrutiny. It 62 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: can't even begin to be looked at as a good 63 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: faith argument. I mean, you can start with this proposition. 64 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: The right to an abortion, according to Row, came from 65 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: a right to privacy, neither neither of which are actually 66 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: mentioned in the Constitution, neither of which actually exist. And 67 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: then the right to abortion that comes from a right 68 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: to privacy was somehow tied to a bunch of different amendments. 69 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: They weren't sure how many different amendments. They threw a 70 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: bunch of numbers in there, and then later on it 71 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: was well, it's actually a liver already right that comes 72 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: from a due process right. I mean, this was a 73 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: complete This was not only, of course, violence to all 74 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: the millions of preborn children who suffered as a result 75 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: of this Row regime. This was violence to the law. 76 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: This was lunacy. It was astonishingly dishonest for the legal 77 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: regime in this country to have upheld this as long 78 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: as it did. It was astonishingly obtuse for Democrats to 79 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: walk around with this certainty, this slogan a constitutional right 80 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: to an abortion. At the time of Row, dozens of 81 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: states outlawed abortion. There was a long history of abortion 82 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: as illegal. An abortion was certainly not even a prescedure 83 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: that one could engage it at the time of the founding. 84 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: So this was completely contrary to the rights. And this 85 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: is all laid out in the opinion, the right that 86 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you would find as a result of diving into our history, 87 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: looking at our history, and what the implied and foundational 88 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: rights are as a result of that history. So this 89 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: was always bad law. We knew it. I said it, 90 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and I've been thinking stretching back to last fall, that 91 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: they would be willing to do this. It is a 92 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: massive step in the right direction for the rule of 93 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: law and also for decency and morality in this country 94 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: on so many levels, to demand that people not only 95 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: accept that babies were being killed as a function of 96 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: not only this massive abortion industry in so many of 97 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: these planned parenthood and other facilities across the country. And 98 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: we know that's that's what was going on. We know 99 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: just based on the language they always use. Oh, it's 100 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: about a freedom of a woman to control her destiny. 101 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: It's can you kill babies in the womb? That's actually 102 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the question. They can talk about all these other things, 103 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: but the fundamental question was the protection of a life 104 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: in the woo and now the states can look at 105 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and determine, well, when does that life begin? And this 106 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: is something that on the state by state basis there 107 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: will be different responses. But to make everyone in this 108 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: country go through with this, it was almost a Soviet 109 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: level pretense. Yes, there's a constitutional right to an abortion. 110 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: No one really thought that. It's not in the constitution, 111 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: It's not in our legal and constitutional history. The basis 112 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: for this was a fabrication. And so in that sense, 113 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: they were forcing us all to be complicit in a lie. 114 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: And what do I always say, borrow from the great 115 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: souls and eats, and speaking of anti Soviets, live not 116 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: by lies. Row forced us as a nation to live 117 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: by lies for decades. And now these different states that 118 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: have these policies are going to have to justify what 119 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: they're doing. They no longer have this catch all, they 120 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: no longer have this facade. If it's a constitutional right, 121 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: shut up, decided, it's over, not anymore. Now, what's the argument? Now? 122 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Who is going to want to be that state legislature 123 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: that stands up in Colorado and says a baby at 124 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: nine months in the womb is not a baby. Do 125 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: anything you want to it. It's fine, it's legal. Who 126 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: wants to make that barbarous argument? Now? I know there 127 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of very ardently pro abortion legislatures out there, 128 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and others among them, who have been saying 129 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: such things. But what you're going to see is now 130 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: it becomes much more difficult. Now they have to actually 131 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: engage with the substance. They have to engage with the 132 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: merits of the argument. What is it then, at nine months, 133 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: if it's not a baby at eight months, at seven months, 134 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: at six months, what is that little heartbeat? What are 135 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: those tiny fingernails and eyes and the nose and the 136 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: adorable little toes? What is all of that if it's 137 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: not a baby? Now Democrats are acting out with rage 138 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: in a frenzy right now because for the first time 139 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: in any of their you know, well basically a first 140 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: time in memory. I mean, some people may remember a 141 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: pre row era, but very few these days comparatively, and 142 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: for the first time, they're going to have to make 143 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: the case that convenience overrides a right to life, and 144 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: that the state, which has a fundamental foundational responsibility to 145 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: protect innocent life, should turn the other way. As people 146 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: continue to make this decision. This often just so barbarous, 147 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: it's so clearly morally wrong. And yet here we are, 148 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: after how many decades of this, after how many decades 149 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: of having to pretend that this made sense, to pretend 150 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: that it was constitutional, to pretend that there was some 151 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: ethical understanding that we had all reached as a country. No, 152 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: we had not, I want to say, and it would 153 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: be I'd be remiss if I did not say it. 154 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: Huge amount of gratitude should be given to those who 155 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: have been working patiently, tirelessly in the pro life movement, 156 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: For those who have been convincing people who have been 157 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: providing assistance to mothers who are having a crisis pregnancy, 158 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: who are having a difficult time with this in their lives. 159 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: For those who worked in the legal circles and the 160 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: legislature on the Federalist Society. There has been an army 161 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: of righteousness that for decades has been fighting to get 162 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: to this point. Now it's not over. The army cannot disband, 163 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: so to speak. Remember, an army of righteousness means one 164 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: that is lawful and kind and loving and supportive of 165 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: all lives, and supportive of lives of the unborn, helping 166 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: everyone who is having a difficult time with their pregnancy, 167 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: helping their fellow Americans understand why this is such an 168 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: important issue, and now taking it to the legislature. But 169 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the fight continues on because now we'll see what states decide. 170 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: There will be some states that protect life, there will 171 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: be other states that decide they want to go as 172 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: far as possible. And this is going to be a 173 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: political issue now. I think you're going to see a 174 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: bit of hysteria from the Democrats about they want to 175 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: ban contraception, they want to ban condos, they want to 176 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: ban No, that's not what's going on right now, but 177 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: they are very upset. And I would just leave you 178 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: with this thought before we get into some of the 179 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: politics of this in a moment, And I mean, you know, 180 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: the electoral, who's in power, who's calling the shots components here, 181 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people for whom today and 182 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: it will take time for this to sink in, but 183 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: either through their own personal actions or their support of 184 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: the abortion regime for decades, will slowly come around to 185 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: realizing that the constitutional justification for this was always a falsehood. 186 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: And then that leaves you only with your own conscience 187 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: and your own morality, and it's going to be a 188 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: whole lot harder for people. It's going to be very 189 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: difficult on a lot of a lot of people in 190 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: this country right now, I think who have the ability 191 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: to think critically and engage in some level of introspection 192 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: over this. It's going to be painful when this finally 193 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: seeps in that this was not some constitutional right all along, 194 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: and that something, something else, something very different, was at 195 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: work here. So it is a day that, as I've said, 196 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you can summarize with life wins, but the battle is 197 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: not over. It is a great day for the legacy 198 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, There's no question about it. It's 199 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: a great day for the Supreme Court. They did not 200 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: buckle to the obvious pressure campaign from the left to 201 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: continue with this regime of infanticide. And it's a good 202 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: day for the country because the rule of law is 203 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: starting to, at least for a moment year, feel like 204 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: it means something again. And it's not just the whim 205 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: of dictatorial activist judges. It's not the demands of the 206 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: mob out on the street or in front of the 207 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: judges homes. 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Wade Overturned, we have our friend and 249 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Coulter joining thirteen time New York Time's best selling author. 250 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: She's got a fantastic sub stack. You can subscribe to 251 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Unsafe by end Coulter, Miss Culter. Good to have you. 252 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a fantastic day to be here. Buck. Yeah, 253 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: I just want to give you just go with it. 254 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: You've been in this battle, You've been in this fight 255 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: for for years. What does it feel like today's It's wonderful. 256 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, not just as a human being, but as 257 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: a lawyer. I was just thinking there. I mean, every 258 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: lawyer in America who isn't a lawyer is happy about this. 259 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: This was just such an intellectually offensive decision. The left 260 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: has been using the courts, well since the war, in 261 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: court as their personal philosopher kings to hand them all, 262 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, the quote rights. That really the legislation they 263 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: want that they couldn't get Americans to vote for, either 264 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: in the states or or or if it is a 265 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: national type law, or nationally, so they can't win in democracy. 266 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean. The most beautiful example of that was, of course, 267 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: the gay marriage issue, which was voted down in about 268 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly thirty three states with direct initiatives 269 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: allowing the people to vote. Even in California it was 270 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: voting voted down buck sex and despite being wildly overspent, 271 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: the same thing in Oregon. So what do what do 272 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: liberals do? Let's go to our philosopher kings on the 273 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: Supreme Court and they'll drop lsc read the Constitution and say, 274 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, a document drafted by 275 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: our founders two hundred years ago, who we never saw 276 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: this before. There's a right to abortion. It's just a 277 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: BS way to do a constitutional law. If we could 278 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: move away from this, and I certainly hope we will 279 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: have a court that stays within within the bounds of 280 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: that Constitution and they just enforce constitutional rights as they 281 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: did with a gun decision yesterday, and don't pretend to 282 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: hallucinate non existent rights. Then it goes back to the 283 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: states most of the time to the states. Sometimes it 284 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: may go to Congress, but most important decisions that people 285 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: care about in their lives, in the kinds of places 286 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: they want to live, are decided by state legislatures, which 287 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: is the most freedom promoting idea any government has ever 288 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: come up with. If you don't want gay pride parades 289 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: with you know, sodomy being performed on the streets. Okay, 290 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: don't live in New York City or San Francisco or 291 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: California at all. You can live. You can live in 292 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: one of the more conservative states. And if you don't 293 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: want school prayer, you live in San Francisco or New York, California, 294 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: the places that hate Christians and hate God. Therefore, you 295 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: create a little environment for yourself where you're living in 296 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: a place that is good for you, fits you not 297 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: in all ways. Maybe there may be trade offs, but no, 298 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: that's not good enough for the left. They want. This 299 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: is why they want everything to be federal, national, so 300 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: that they can bully five Supreme Court justices or just 301 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: snark them into ruling the way they can. They want 302 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: the rule to be Speaking of a culter, you can 303 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: subscribe to her sub stack unsafe on the substack platform 304 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: a to look for her columns or syndicated column And 305 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: the politics of this, I've been thinking all along that 306 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: it's it's very much overstated. That now because because I 307 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: kept hearing Democrats say it, which I usually think is 308 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: the tell, oh, this will mean that now the mid terms, 309 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't see that meaning that this is going to 310 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: bail out the Democrats and the midterms in any meaningful way. 311 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: Do you see it that way? And also, I mean 312 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: you've got AOC telling people to take to the streets. 313 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: To me, this doesn't strike me as likely to turn 314 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: into something like the BLM movement, just because you know, 315 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot of unhappy cat ladies with blue hair 316 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: out in front of the Supreme Court. Like, I don't 317 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: think that they're going to necessarily riot the same way 318 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: we've seen Democrats on other issues. But but I don't know. 319 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: I can't predict the future. What do you think, Well, 320 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that this isn't going to be 321 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: BLM riot, and that is something I was concerned with. 322 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I may have have admitted to you before when when 323 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: the decision first leagues, my immediate reaction, despite being both 324 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: a human being and a lawyer capable of reading, was 325 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: not yea, it was oh, I wish they could have 326 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: waited a year. I don't want anything screwing up the 327 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: mid terms. Not that Republicans aren't screwing up the mid 328 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: terms as much as they can on their own. Between 329 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Ukraine and what twelve of them voting for. I want 330 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: to ask you about the gun vote in a second, 331 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: but keep going well that and then observing, as you say, 332 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: the ones who are most the people most vocal and 333 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: hysterical about Oh my gosh, abortion is being sent back 334 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: to the States. We're going to have to win this 335 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: horrible process known as democracy. And it's just, you know, 336 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: I can't sleep at night knowing that women in Louisiana 337 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: I can't get an abortion in the third trimester. M 338 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: don't worry, lady, you're in New York. I think they 339 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: are unappealing and hysterical and disingenuous enough that, if anything, 340 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: it hurts them. And by and large, my impression is 341 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: people just they don't like to think about it, which 342 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: is why you get weird, weird results from poles where 343 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: on one hand, at the top of the New York 344 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: Times article, you know in paragraph two, two thirds of 345 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: Americans agree with Roe v. Wade, and then you read 346 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: eighteen paragraphs down and you get the fact that two 347 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: thirds of Americans think that abortions should not be legal 348 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: after the first trimester. Well, that's not agreeing with row 349 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: baby cake. That's probably where even the restrictive states, and 350 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: it looks like right now about half the states are 351 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: abortion will be the same as it always was, maybe 352 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: even more available. If this reminds me an of the 353 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: of the poll speaking of Ukraine on the no fly zone. 354 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, for there was a moment there where I 355 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: think eighty percent of the country or seventy percent of 356 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: the country was yeah, no fly zone. And then the 357 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: next question is you realize that means we're blowing up 358 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: Russian surface to air Mitchell's probably on Russian territory, right, 359 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: which would mean war. And then and then it's and 360 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: then it's you know, like ten percent or something. All 361 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden it goes WHOA, no, we don't we 362 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: don't want that. Oh, we're speaking to Ann Coulter. Everybody 363 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: her Her substack is fantastic unsafe. It's called by Ann Culter. 364 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: You can subscribe. And I do have to add, obviously, 365 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: a huge day, and it's I it's a great day. 366 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: It's a great day for logic reason, the law life 367 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: life wins. I think should be the headline for at 368 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: least today. Um, but I do have to ask you 369 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: about these Republicans who went along with this red flag bill, 370 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, red flag gun bill or no law or 371 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: about to be law, and why is it that we 372 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: have there there is some some kind of sickness in 373 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: the minds of certain Republicans where it's it's been too long, 374 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: it's it's been a year for some of them, maybe 375 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: six months, you know, for Lindsey Graham, maybe three months, 376 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: where they haven't gotten a pat on the head from 377 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: the New York Times, and so they just turn on 378 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: the base. I don't Democrats don't do this. Why do 379 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Republicans do this like these twelve senators. Yes, I think 380 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: it comes back to the media. People like you and I, 381 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: thank god, are not influenced by the media, except maybe, 382 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, if if you don't have a position on 383 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: an issue yet, check to see where the New York 384 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Times is and just pick the other side. But most people, 385 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: I guess aren't like that, and we see which ones 386 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: are the weakest women. I do think this has a 387 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,239 Speaker 1: lot to do with it. I mean, we've both just 388 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: assumed this is this is like you say, a pat 389 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: on the head from the New York Times. I oh, 390 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: these are the moderate ones. The media is very powerful 391 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: in persuading the weak minded, and we've got a lot 392 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: of weak minded Republicans, especially by the way, I think 393 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: every correct me if I'm wrong. Every single actual biological 394 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: woman I don't mean like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell women. Um, 395 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: every biological woman in the Senate voted in favor of 396 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: these correct. Is there anyone who didn't? Um, I'd have 397 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: to check. Check that. Yeah, I'd have to check because 398 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: to how about Collins? You having a check right now 399 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: there on our team? Check. I have to see, I've see. Okay, 400 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: never mind, there's a lot of people listening for me 401 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: to be Google search again. Okay, I will just blather ahead. 402 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: I will go on to say that the one secret 403 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: pleasure I may take from this is because I'm a 404 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: little mad at Alabama today. Um, they gave us the 405 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: Roy Moore fiasco, they gave us Doug Jones, the redd 406 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: est state in the Union and the worst voters. Well, 407 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: they just voted for a girl Senate nominee over the 408 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: magnificent Mobra books. I've always liked mo Brooks. I didn't 409 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: really understand why he didn't win that one. Well, apparently 410 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: not many people voted, but I don't care. I'm holding 411 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: Alabama responsible for this, and I was thinking, Wow, think 412 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: of the irony in a very pro gun state. Like Alabama. 413 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Looking at the way the girls senators are voting on this, 414 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: if it was there a girl senator who voted to 415 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: take away their Second Amendment rights someday. 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Someday 441 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people can't afford a sixty thousand dollars 442 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: electric car, and they also are having a hard time 443 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: affording gas right now. That sounds like a painful transition. 444 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: So how much of that kind of pain is the 445 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: president of Okayway, No, that transition. We are in a 446 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: transition to clean energy. That's going to be really important 447 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: to have a ward electric car. The average price is 448 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: sixty one thousand dollars. Well, we're going to continue to 449 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: move forward with what we have put for the the 450 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: five person five dollars gallon gas for a sixty one 451 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollars that is not First of all, you're that's 452 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: apples in the ridges is not the same is the 453 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: choice boxes? Uh? Peter Doocey asks a five dollar a 454 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: gallon gasoline or a sixty one thousand dollars electric car. 455 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: The White House doesn't have a good answer. Maybe our 456 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: next guest does. Larry Cudlow is with us now, the 457 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: Fox News host and former Senior Economic advisor under the 458 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Trump administration. Larry, thanks for coming back. You know, Buck, 459 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: I could be had. I could support build back better. 460 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: But I want the top of the line Tesla. I 461 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: want one hundred and fifty thousand one. Is that the plaid? 462 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: I think it's fancy. If it's if they just give 463 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: one to me, you know, I might reconsider. So what 464 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: happens now, Larry, gas prices the administration's got, Yeah, I know, 465 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: I like. I actual think Tesla's are cool too, I 466 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: gotta say. I mean, and now that Elon may be 467 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 1: trying to single handedly save free speech on the internet, 468 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: at some level, I'm even more of a Tesla fan. 469 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: But it can't all be on his shoulders, and he 470 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: obviously can't do much about the gas prices. The Biden 471 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: regime says they can do something about the gas prices, 472 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: which is funny to me because a couple of weeks 473 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: ago they were saying they couldn't. So which is it 474 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: and where is this going? Where are they going wrong? Well, 475 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: you could start with yesterday's meetings, okay, which is bait 476 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: and switch. Biden shows to meet with the windmill makers 477 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: in the Roosevelt Room in the White House, and he 478 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: sent his underboss, Jennifer Granholm to meet when the CEOs 479 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: of the oil gas companies in the Energy Department. All right, 480 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: So there's a statement right there. The boss wouldn't even 481 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: meet with the top guys. And I know from friends 482 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: of mine who are at that meeting, the energy meeting, 483 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: not the window meeting, I know that they got nothing. 484 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a nice meeting. At least Granholm 485 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: didn't attack them or brate them or insult them the 486 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: way Biden usually does. But other than that, they asked 487 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: for all kinds of waivers for these onerous regulations that 488 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: have stopped permitting and hence stopped bracking and drilling and 489 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: typelining and any new refining. They asked for waivers and 490 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: she couldn't give it to them. Killer. That's a part 491 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: of this that I think more and more of the 492 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: American people are just seeing clearly, which is that on 493 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: the one hand, the Biden regime, people like Carrie whose 494 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: their climates are will come out and say, you know, 495 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: this is a good opportunity for everybody to really focus 496 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: on the real issue, which is climate change while people 497 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: can't afford gas to get to work, to go pick 498 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: up their kids and live their lives. Granholm says it 499 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more delicately than that, but siar similar things. 500 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: It can on the one hand, be that the Biden 501 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: administration is willing to invoke the Defense Production Act for 502 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: solar panels and on the other unwilling to waive regulation 503 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: as you just pointed out, And they don't have an 504 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: underlying ideological hostility to fossil fuel production. That's a huge 505 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: problem right now. It just doesn't all add up. Well, 506 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: they do have an underlying hostility administration. I mean, the 507 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: ministration is dominated by the radical climate change ideology. Right 508 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: This is part of their woke progressive program which is 509 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: so terribly unpopular in the country and why they're going 510 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: to lose the Congress in November. I mean, the oil 511 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: guys want to negotiate in some good faith. Look, this 512 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: is their business and they do it better than anybody 513 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: in the world. And by the way we make the 514 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: cleanness oil and natural gas and the cleanest gasoline in 515 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: the world. That's why our carbon emissions have been falling 516 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: for years and they continue to fall. So all they 517 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: really wanted was some sense that the administration would wave 518 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: some of these onerous regulations, including the You know, here's 519 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: the thing for folks to think about. Leases are one thing. 520 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: You can buy a lease, you know, some leases you 521 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: get oil and gas, some you don't. But if you 522 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: don't have a permit, then you can't drill. And the 523 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: administration is withholding permits everywhere. I mean, it started with 524 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: the Keystone pipeline, but lately they've even stopped permitting. They 525 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: promised they would go through with it, and then they 526 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: canceled it in Alaska and the Golfrom Mexico. Golfrom Mexico, 527 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: by the ways, cheapest oil in the world, thirty dollars 528 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: break even. So they wanted some sense, they all guys, 529 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: and they didn't get it, And so that's that there's 530 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: nothing else they can do. Their current refineries buck are 531 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: operating capacity. They can't get any more out of them, 532 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: and it's not easy to start one up anyway. But 533 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: the point is, if if Biden would be willing to 534 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: let up on these permits. You would see the futures markets, 535 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: oil prices would come down, and therefore gasoline prices would 536 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: come down. You'd see it probably a twenty five thirty 537 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: five dollars drop right away, you know, from one hundred 538 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: whatever a hundred change down at least seventy five bucks. 539 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow of Fox News and former senior Trump advisor 540 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: Larry just want more for you. Do you think that 541 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: we are? Are we in a recession even though it's 542 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: obviously not official by the numbers yet, and are we 543 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: going deeper into whatever this economic malaise is? I mean, 544 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hearing people use the word procession a 545 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 1: lot more, but also stagflation, and people are saying growth 546 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: is going to really stall out. What does it look 547 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: like as far as you can tell under this Biden 548 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: administration for the next six to twelve months. Well, I 549 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: think you know, we're in the front end of a recession. 550 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: We're not seeing it yet in the jobs markets, but 551 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: we are seeing it with the decline in real wages, 552 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: and we're seeing it in a decline in real retail sales. 553 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: So those are very important statistics and real incomes are falling, 554 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: so I'd say we're on the front end. I think 555 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: Jay Powell, the fedhead, basically told us in his hearings 556 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: in the Senate now this week that we're going into recession. 557 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: That was one of his messages. And it's too bad, 558 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: because you know, if we'd slash taxes and we'd slash 559 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: regulations on oil and other industries, we might avoid it, 560 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, or at least we'd paved the way for 561 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: a growth recovery. But we're not doing that. So I 562 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: think you've got inflationary recession. That was the Milton Treatment 563 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: term many many years ago. Some people call it stagflation. 564 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: In other words, outfit. It's going to go down, the 565 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: economy is going to think, and the inflation rate is 566 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: going to stay high at least for another year. So 567 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: it's an unholy combination. But I think that's that's the problem. 568 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, this election is going to 569 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: be all about inflation. It's not going to be about 570 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: Roe v. Way. It's going to be about inflation and 571 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: then recession. And I think you're right. I think that 572 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats wish it would be about Roe v. Way. 573 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: But that's not gonna. It's not gonna bail out Biden. 574 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't see it. Larry Cutlow, everybody Fox Business, go 575 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: check out Cutlo on Fox Business. Great show. Larry. Always 576 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us. 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It has been decades in the making, 603 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: and we have to now turn to our co host, 604 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: our good friends, Clay Travis, who has family obligations today 605 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: that have kept them away from the mic for the 606 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: three hours of the show. But he is calling in 607 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: now because I know a lot of you wanted to 608 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: hear his take on what all this means. Clay. First, 609 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: audience has been asking how are you doing. It's a 610 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: tough day and by the way, I'm on the road 611 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: or pulled off here on the side of the road. 612 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: So you know, cell phone reception is always a tough 613 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: situation like this, but you know, he was sixty two 614 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 1: years old, listened to the Russian Limboss show for over 615 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: thirty years, his wife and daughter. His daughter did a 616 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: phenomenal eulogy, which she's young. To be in that position 617 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: where you're eulogizing your father or your mother is something 618 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: that is incredibly difficult for anybody to do. They came 619 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: up and they said they had heard from so many 620 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: people after we talked about it, because so many of 621 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: his friends listened as well and had been fans of 622 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: the show for a long time. It was tough, and 623 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: I think, you know, in addition to the daughter, my 624 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: uncle is still alive verse ninety and to hear at 625 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: over ninety that one of your sons has died totally 626 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: unexpectedly is just, you know, a brutal thing I think 627 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: for anybody to have to experience. So I appreciate I 628 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: had so many people reach out to me for on 629 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: behalf of so many people from the show who were 630 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: listening and have been through this. And obviously we are 631 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: in many ways a big family, all of us together, 632 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: and so that's been tough, and that's why I wasn't today. Obviously, 633 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: the news broke, and it broke right as I was 634 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: going in basically for the funeral. But you know my thoughts, 635 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: first of all, Uh, on the the news is fuck 636 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: and and I'm curious what you think, but I'm extremely 637 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: disappointed in John Roberts not signing on to the overturn 638 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: of Roe v. Way. Uh. I know he supported the 639 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: Mississippi law and concurred there, but then did not sign on. 640 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: And my concern is looking forward, we've had a lot 641 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: of time to discuss all of this. My biggest concern 642 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: is all of these justices from the conservative majority have 643 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: a monster target on their backs still, and I just 644 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: think it's an awful for someone like John Roberts, who 645 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: claims that he cares so much about the legitimacy of 646 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: the court, buck for him not to be willing to 647 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: stand up for the legitimacy of the court and say, hey, 648 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: we're going to make this a six three to decision 649 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: so that all the nut jobs out there, and we 650 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: already know this tried to happen with Brett Kavanaugh, so 651 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: that someone's not trying to kill adjustice to change the 652 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: outcome of this case. To me, I'm disgusted with John 653 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: Roberts for not joining this majority and making at six 654 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: three and then bigger picture, Buck, I think we've discussed 655 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot of implications and ramifications already, but it is 656 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: to me, Hey, if you truly believe in the democratic 657 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: process in the United States, then right now you get 658 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: the opportunity to make a choice about what you think 659 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: the law should be as it pertains to abortion in 660 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: this country. Whatever state you're in, whatever community you live in, 661 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: you now have the opportunity to make those decisions. And 662 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: it's the ultimate democratic process. The court deciding on their 663 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: own was the anti democratic process. To me, this is 664 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt, a moment for democracy 665 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: to triumph, for us to have hard conversations about what 666 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: the law should be all over this country and to 667 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: hopefully reach a moment of realization as a country in 668 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: the democratic process as should have existed fifty years ago. 669 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: And then the last thing I would say, and then 670 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you would say about all this is 671 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: will we have this violence? Right? Are we going to 672 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: have the mostly peaceful protests breaking out all over this 673 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: country tonight I'm going to be in Atlanta, Georgia. I 674 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: know you're down. I believe still in South Florida. People 675 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: are listening to us all over the country. Are they 676 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: confidence that their cities and states are going to be 677 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: calm tonight? Or are we going to see a reprisal 678 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: of the summer of twenty twenty when everything came undone. Yeah, 679 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all Clay about Roberts being unwilling 680 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: to go along with the overturning of Row. I'm less 681 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: concerned about the long term implications for that, although clearly 682 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: the tension around the court is and it is also 683 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: a little bit confusing, I think for folks because you 684 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: hear it, well, it's a six three decision, so he's 685 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: with Roberts is with the majority on the Mississippi law. 686 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: So everyone's reporting this as a six three decision. But 687 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,959 Speaker 1: Roberts did his own separate concurrence to site the State 688 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: that he would not have gone along with the overturning 689 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: of Row. Specifically, he would have done it in perhaps 690 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: a more phase process. I've always thought that he just 691 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: lacks internal fortitude and is a an institutionalist beyond above 692 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: all else. But overall. I mean the impact here is 693 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: Row is gone. So that's obviously hugely momentous. And you know, 694 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: now I wonder because these two things are tied together, right, Clay, 695 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: the midterms coming up, and your concern, my concern, everyone's 696 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: concern about riots, violence, anything like that. You know, we 697 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: had Ann Coulter on before and I asked her about this, 698 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: I do think and I wanted your take on this. 699 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: There's the pro there has been some violence against pro 700 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: life pregnancy centers and other things, but it's been vandalism 701 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been on the scale of say, Thelm 702 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: riots that we saw in twenty twenty. Do you think 703 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: that that may come from this decision? But also, how 704 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: does the recognition of the imminent elections of Democrats. You know, 705 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: it's not a good look to burn down buildings usually, right, 706 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean they got away with it in twenty twenty, 707 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: but Trump was president and the left was insane. What 708 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: do you think about all that? Yeah, so that's such 709 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: an important question as we head into the weekend, and 710 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: you and I have been discussing about when this opinion 711 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: was going to come down, and I kind of floated 712 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: the idea. I think I don't know if I said 713 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: it on the air just in our conversation that maybe 714 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: they would hold it into the long holiday weekend of 715 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: July fourth. They obviously released it on a Friday going 716 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 1: into a weekend. I don't know. We had this Supreme 717 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: Court leak, and Buck, the Supreme Court leak obviously did 718 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: not work, and it may I think I hope have 719 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: alleviated some of the tension because people have had weeks 720 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: to be angry about this decision. And I also think 721 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: Democrats have recognized that this isn't their huge saving grace 722 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: when everything is going wrong, because the base of the 723 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: Democrat Party did not seem to be super motivated like 724 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Democrats thought and hoped they 725 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: would be. So given the fact that we've had five 726 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: or six weeks to come to grips with the fact 727 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: that this opinion was coming down, I like to think 728 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,479 Speaker 1: that maybe we have alleviated the overall tension that could 729 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: lead to an explosive protest. But but the other part 730 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: of me thinks so much of this protest felt manufactured 731 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: and organized, And to your point, Buck, the party in 732 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: power bears more of the brunt of the blame. But 733 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm still concerned that in some places there may be 734 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: an incentive to create violence, and then there are lots 735 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 1: of people out there who are not political in any nature. 736 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: Then when violence occurs, they take it as an opportunity 737 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: to riot, to loot, to plunder, and it doesn't take 738 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: very many people in order for all hell to break loose, 739 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: as everyone listening to us right now knows who lived 740 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: through that summer of extreme violence in twenty twenty. So 741 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: the other thing I would say too, if our associated 742 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: with this buck is we still don't know who the 743 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: leaker was, and I still want to find out how 744 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,439 Speaker 1: that happened for purposes of the courts legitimacy. And also 745 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: I'll circle back around to go Jensaki on everybody here 746 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: to what you said about Roberts as an institutionalist. I 747 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: agree with that to certain extent. But if you are 748 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: an institutionalist, your number one goals should be to protect 749 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: the institution. And when you have an attempt at assassination 750 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: attempts going on against your conservative justices, and you're allowing 751 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: this to be a five to four decision, look when 752 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: you get to be in your sixties and seventies, as 753 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: I should know, and everybody else out there should know. 754 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: Though things can happen unexpectedly in terms of health. And 755 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: so when this decision is hanging by the thread of 756 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: one justice and we know already a left wing lunatic 757 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: went to Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh's house with the express 758 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: intent to kill him, so this law would not become 759 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: the law of the land between now and the midterms. 760 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: Buck Joe Biden theoretically would have the ability to replace 761 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: a conservative justice if a opening emerged. I don't like 762 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: the fact that John Roberts has allowed that same incentive 763 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: to continue to exist in that if someone is killed, 764 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 1: and I hate to even have to talk about it, 765 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: but coming off of an assassination attempt, I think it 766 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: would be failure if we didn't if someone has killed, 767 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: this opinion, given that it's a five to four opinion, 768 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: could flip to me. If you're an institutionalist like John Roberts, 769 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 1: he had an obligation to support his institution and make 770 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: this a six three decision. So this choice doesn't hang 771 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: on the heart of one justice, and right now, that's 772 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: all it does. And there are enough crazy people as 773 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: we all know, who could be motivated. There's already been 774 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: one to try to take up arms over this issue. 775 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: I think John Roberts failed the court. I think he 776 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: failed the country, and I think he failed his own institution, 777 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: most prominently by failing to sign on and make this 778 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: a legitimate six three decision. As you mentioned, a lot 779 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: of people are confused because it's six three upholding the 780 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: Mississippi law, but it's only five four in terms of 781 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: overturning Roe v. Way right, we're speaking of Clay Travis, 782 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: co host of this show, but he's dealing with family 783 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: today and was at a funeral this morning, so we 784 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: want him to call in to share with all of 785 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: you his thoughts. Clay, while one more thing before I know, 786 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: you got to get back to taking care of the fam. 787 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: Former President Donald Trump forty five put out this statement, 788 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: Save America by or Save America President Donald J. Trump. 789 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: Today's decision, which is the biggest win for life in 790 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, 791 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: were only made possible because I delivered everything is promised, 792 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong constitutionalists 793 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: confirmed to the United States Supreme Court. It was my 794 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: great honor to do so. I did not cave to 795 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: the radical left Democrats. They're partners of the fake news 796 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: or the rhinos who are the true but silent enemy 797 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: of the people. Who goes on a bit more. But 798 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: Clay most, I mean, first of all, it's it's so Trump, right, 799 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: but most pro life president by the numbers, by the 800 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: reality in my lifetime. I think you'd have to say, 801 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: in our lifetime. When you look at what Trump did 802 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: and getting three youngish, highly qualified justices onto the court, 803 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: it is maybe the most consequential presidency since I think 804 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: it's fair to say Ronald Reagan in terms of advocating 805 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: for conservative views. And I think if you had told 806 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: anybody buck when Donald Trump came down that escalator in 807 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: Trump Power and announced that he was running for president 808 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: back in I guess it would have been now what 809 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: the summer of fifteen or whatever, I can barely even 810 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: keep up. I guess it would have been the yeah, 811 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: the summer of fifteen, basically when he announced that he 812 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 1: was going to be running for president. If you or 813 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: I had said, hey, he's gonna win, and followed it 814 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: up by saying, and he's going to be the most 815 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: successful president in terms of transforming the court and advocating 816 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: for conservative views in most of our lives, maybe frankly, 817 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: almost anyone's life, even going back past before Reagan. I 818 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: don't think anybody would have believed it, but I think 819 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: the consequences are here. Look you look at John Roberts. 820 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: He had no spot and when he has been faced 821 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: with tough decisions, he's tended to worry about what everybody 822 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC thought, Amy Coney, Barrett, Brett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch. 823 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: They all were Trump appointees, and they all came in 824 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 1: and delivered. They did not waver, they didn't go suitor, 825 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: and and conservatives have been hoping for choices like these 826 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: for generations. I think you have to give credit to 827 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: the federalist society. You know, people may not pay a 828 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,280 Speaker 1: lot of attention to them, but they made the choice 829 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: that they were going to vet the justices and vet 830 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: judges and get fully qualified constitutionalist on the bench. And 831 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: they have had a transformative impact on the federal judiciary. 832 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: And given how crazy Democrats have gone, that formative impact 833 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: has been transformative but also incredibly protective, protective of constitutionalist ideals. 834 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't have bet on it, but my goodness, 835 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: what an incredible legacy for Trump, even if he only 836 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: ever serves one term as president. This is kind of fun. 837 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: I get to say, everyone, be sure to listen in 838 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: to Clay Travis on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 839 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: Show on Monday, which is the show that he co 840 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: hosts with me every day. But you and I usually 841 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: worry about cell phone signals. Did I sound okay? That's 842 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: what I was most concerned about calling in on my 843 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: cell phone, nah Man, Crystal clear, all good to go. Look, 844 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers to you and yours. Appreciate you sharing 845 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: your insight on a day when you have a lot 846 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: of family stuff to tend to. And obviously you and 847 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 1: I will be back in the cockpit on Monday, my friend. 848 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, no doubt. I appreciate everybody out there. 849 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the condolences and all of the 850 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: incredibly heartfelt expressions. And I'm glad that I could talk 851 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: to everybody here. Back to the family now. I hope 852 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: everybody has a fantastic weekend, and I hope we actually 853 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: don't have any rioting, louding, plundering to have to worry 854 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: about all throughout the country. Amen to that, talk to 855 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: you Monday, my friend. Thanks Clay. 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