1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Didna hit the air at any point of time. We 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: all can be in trouble right now, but me because 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: I got an spray right in front of me. 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: Right. 5 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: I try to try to share one time done. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: Somebody got about to story, so I'm gon go ahead. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: It's about to tail a story. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: What's up, everybody, I'm Peanut Tollman and this is the 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: NFL Players Second Act Podcast with me as always, my 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: trusty co host, my old man, my uncle Roman Harbor. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 4: What's up? 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm doing good man, even though you're older than me. 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 5: It's really good to be here. We got a special 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 5: special guest. I'm really excited to see and talk to 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 5: this young man because he's somebody that we all got 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 5: to grow up watching it all, being a fan of. 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 5: Whether you hated him or loved him, you were definitely 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 5: had an opinion about him. 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 20 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Three times Super Bowl champion, he's an m v P. Yes, 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: he's in the Hall of Fame. Yes, ladies, gentlemen, Amos Smith. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Not only that, I. 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 5: Mean you left out the most important thing was that 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 5: he's the NFL's all time leading and rusher. 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: Like we're pressed for Tom, I can't, I can't. Okay, 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: thank you. 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to do you a disservice, brother, it's 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: just too long. 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not worried about 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: that at all. 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 6: Just if on the set with you brothers come on 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 6: and having the chance to just have chopping up about 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 6: some football and some stuff that's going. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: Around, et cetera. 35 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: That's that's that's really what this is all about, bro, 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: So don't worry about the resumes. 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate you just like I am. Thank you, sir. 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Reive it man. 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 5: So last night we were at the honors, Peanut and 40 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 5: I were both there, and some guys got inducted into 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: the NFL's Hall of Fame. Not everybody went in on 42 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 5: their first time. What does it mean to be a 43 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 5: first ballot Hall of Famer? I don't think enough people 44 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 5: will take enough credit or realize what that part of 45 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: it means. 46 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 6: You know, being the first ballot Hall of Famer itself, 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 6: after completing up however longer career you've had, it means 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 6: a lot. At this stage of a one's life. 49 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: It is the culmination and the final piece, the final 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: chapter of your whole entire career. When you're going into 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And then the fact first ballot 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: means I don't have to wait any longer. 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: It is now. I don't have to worry any longer. 54 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 6: My worry is over, because once you're in, it's a 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 6: class and a group. 56 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: It's one team that you make. It's one that you 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: cannot get cut from, and you're there, immortalized. 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: Forever, forever. And so that feeling and that knowledge that. 59 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 6: It's behind me, now, that's for someone else to worry 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 6: about now and so, and even if you become a. 61 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Second ballot or third ballot, like my man Darren Woolson, 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: for example, I mean I feel for him. I mean 63 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: he's a guy, and I feel for some of my 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: other cowboy teammates. How can you have the NFL all 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: time leading Russier in the Hall of Fame and the 66 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: quarterback of that team and the wide receiver of that 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: team and only have one lineman in the Hall of 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Fame and that's Larry Elly. 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: Where's Biggie and Big E? 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Went up against Reggie White who's a Hall of Fame, 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: and Michael Strahan who's a Hall of Fame, and other 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: folks who tried to get Detroit, but couldn't get through 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: Big E. 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So, and then you look 75 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: at Darren Woodson. 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, there needs to be more cowboys from 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: my era and from our team in the Hall of 78 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Fame with us and so being the second ballot guy, 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what that experience is like, but I 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: definitely know what the first ballot guy just like. And 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: now right there was cool for me because I got 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: a chance to celebrated with my pops, my moms and 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: everyone else right in and there. 84 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be errant or anything. Somebody was like, 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: why are you worried? 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, anything can happen, but I'm like, and back on 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm saying, hid in the. 88 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 6: World are going to keep the all time leading rushing 89 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 6: out of the Hall of Fame when the first go around. 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: That's the unheard of. 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: So there was an expectation that it was going to happen, 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and I was excited because Jera Rice was going in. 93 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: Jero Rice and I both retired at the same time. 94 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Tim Brown retired the same time. All of us retired 95 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: at the same time, and so going in there and 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: Tim Brown is Hall of fame. Yeah, so all of 97 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: that meant a lot, especially be in the first. 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: Battlet Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: So you're the league's all time league rusher, but you're 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: also the league's all time leader in rushing attempts. Do 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: you know what those attempts are? 102 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 103 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: Forty No, no, don't short stack yourself. Twenty four to nine. Yeah, 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: that's durability. That is durability, and a lot of people 105 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: don't talk about that. So I'm glad that you brought 106 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: it up, because durability durability. 107 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: But what's more important if you could pull up the 108 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: stat of how many fumbles? I want to know how many? 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: And you are a guy that mostly kept it in 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: your left arm all the time. Yeah, I'm more both ways. 111 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm proud of the. 112 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm curious about the number of fumbles because I don't 113 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: think about it that much. I'm like, that's a lot 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: of carries, a lot, and that means longevity. It is 115 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: that does. Like I said, people, the best ability is availability. Yes, 116 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: if you're not available, you can't get the carriages. If 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: you're available, you get the carries. Yeah, I wasn't tapping 118 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: out like I see kids these days. Tap out, they 119 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: get a long right hand, he run into the sideline right. No, 120 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I get along run. I want to finish what I 121 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: just started. 122 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: And so you think you could have made him fumble, No, 123 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: he's not. 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: I always thought it was very unique that Emitt always 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 5: carried the ball in his left hand where he's going 126 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: to the right, where everybody tells you got to put 127 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 5: the ball in the outside hand. You were different. There's 128 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 5: no wrong reason to it. Leaders all the time, Rusher 129 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: so Hat. I always thought that was very unique about 130 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 5: your game. And the other thing that I always thought 131 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 5: was beautiful was that it didn't matter who got y'all 132 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: down there. Emma was gonna come in and score it. 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: We got down there, and good job. 134 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: Y'all going over there. 135 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 7: I got. 136 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: All the time. 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 6: Thank y'all, I got this from you so mad. 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: They knew it was coming, You know it was coming, 139 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: and this is what it was. 140 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 5: And to me, I always thought it was very unique 141 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 5: about what you guys cowboys were at the time and 142 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: what NFL. 143 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: That's what I grew up on, right Well, we took 144 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: pride and everything that we did. Jimmy did a great 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: job of colchivating the right culture and creating the right 146 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: chemistry and the right competitive spirit amongst the team, even 147 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: doing practices. Uh, and so when it came down to 148 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the game times, we probably so daggled hard. 149 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: Games were a lot. 150 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 6: Easier than most people want to give me credit for it. 151 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 6: It's because we was well prepared. 152 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: And we were built to play in or fight in 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: close quarters combat. 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were built for that. 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: And so that grinder when it came down to putting 156 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: pressure on others, Yeah, they felt more pressure than we 157 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: did because we were built for it. And that's the 158 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: way Kansas City, she's a built right now, you give 159 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: them a one two point stroke game, they gonna find 160 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a way to win. 161 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: Thiswly, you can't keep it close. 162 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: You know what's been interesting is that how many of 163 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: the former football guys are all like dude, Kansas City, 164 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: like everybody the football that played, appreciates what Kansas City 165 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 5: has been able to do. This run they've been on, 166 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 5: this greatness, this lane that they've been in, and just 167 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: that man, when it gets close, it's just something about 168 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 5: them that is different. 169 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: Hey, look, I looked it up real quick. 170 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: You had sixty one fumbals in your career and so 171 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: basically that's less than one percent of this, that's less 172 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: than one percent of your care. So that that speaks 173 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: to how great, how great you are. The durability the 174 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: only reason why I carried the ball on my left hand. 175 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: I do two things in my left hand. I cared 176 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: the football on my left hand, and I shoot pool 177 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: left handed. 178 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I am right handed dominant, Yeah, and the football 179 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: in my left hand feels more comfortable. Yeah, I feel 180 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: like I'm a fumble more if it's in my right hand, 181 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: and that's my dumbinant hand. I feel better with the 182 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: c stick in my left hand than I do on 183 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: my right hand. 184 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: It's weird. 185 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: It's weird, and so they tried, trust me, many coaches 186 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 6: have tried, and many coaches hell with it. 187 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: I do have a course to talk to me about 188 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: what you're doing with NARK hand, with narkn nasal spray 189 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: and and and emerging. 190 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 6: I'm continuing to spread awareness around open yourd overdoses. 191 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 192 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 6: The epidemic itself has plagued the whole entire country, and 193 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 6: even on a national basis, even though statistics are coming down, 194 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: but here in New Orleans they're steady rising. Bro. 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: And so while we're here at the Super Bowl's weekend. 196 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to continue to talk about North Can nasal 197 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: spray and how available it really is over the counter 198 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: and how to use it. We have a lay spray 199 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and state method is what we call it. And as 200 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: you know in football, if you stay ready, you don't 201 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: have to get ready. And that's what we're saying about 202 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: North Can. We want people to carry it. Many of 203 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: us will walking around or it's never gonna affect me 204 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: because I don't do drugs. I don't do this, but 205 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about the drugs. It can be findinal 206 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: Finno can hit the air at at any point in time. 207 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: We all can be in trouble right now, but me 208 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: because I got spray right in front of me. 209 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: I try to share. Try to share somebody. It's about 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: to tell the story. So I'm going it's about to 211 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: tail a story. 212 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 6: Anyway, you're gonna fumble that we're gonna be we like 213 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: the commercial, everybody jump around for the North Can. But 214 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 6: on a serious still, that's really what we're trying to 215 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 6: do is get people to understand that you have the 216 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 6: ability to save another person's life, and why not take 217 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 6: the initiative to do that and be ready, whether you 218 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 6: have it in your backpack, having in your car, or 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 6: have it in your gym locker, have it in your home, 220 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 6: because most overdose do occur at someone's home may not 221 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 6: be yours, may be someone else, and oftentimes we don't 222 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: know what other people involved in right, even o closest 223 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 6: friends don't tell us everything. 224 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: Russ people do drugs, they do drugs. 225 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Other places don't do it around the people that don't 226 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: do drugs. So being equipped and being ready is really 227 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: what we're trying to get people to start thinking about. 228 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm appreciate the work you're doing. Nar Can Hey, 229 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: appreciate you coming on the pod. Thanks listeners, talk a 230 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: little bit of football talk, a little bit of nark 231 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: Can you are awesome. 232 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: I grew up with San Francisco forty nine as fan, 233 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: but I've become a more MS Smith fan today. 234 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: Thank I'm an MS Smith fan. I try to be consistent. Yeah, 235 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm a big time fan today. My dad does not 236 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: like the Cowboys. Live in Texas, so I grew up 237 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 3: not liking the Cowboys, but I love thank you. 238 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: I like that too. 239 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: I get that in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, I hate the cavoys. 240 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: But I like you. I love I love that says 241 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: you have crossed over. Yeah, that's it, That's all that 242 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: matters to me. Coming on, Yes, sir, you'll be good. Brother. 243 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: Hey, we got one of the greatest safeties to ever 244 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: play this game. He's a Hall of Famer. Ladies and gentleman, 245 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: welcome and read to the pod. 246 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Something brow doing. Man, I mean we're chilling. We're chilling. 247 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: I just win. I'm in. I'm in football royalty right here. 248 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: This is this is just this is the man right now. 249 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: We did okay, but you you was him. 250 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was a huge I never got a 251 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: chance to tell you this when we played, but like 252 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: just huge fan of yours and what you did on 253 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: the field, how you ran the ball, how you read, 254 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: how you ran downhill, and how you used to smack 255 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: people in the mouth. Like I was just like, oh love, 256 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: I wish I wish I could have played one. I 257 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: wish you could have been on the same team. I appreciate it. 258 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: Well, you know, and what does that feel like because 259 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: how many young safeties and young people even including us, 260 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: who you consider as peers because we all played around 261 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: the same time. Is that you know, when we look 262 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: at you that you are the embodiment completely of a 263 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: full blown safety. You make plays on the ball, you 264 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 5: hit people, you play great in coverage, and you're also 265 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: smart and be able to communicate. 266 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: Line guys up. What does that. 267 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: Feel when you get the when you are considered really 268 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: almost like the goat of the free safety and the 269 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: complete player and package what you brought to this game? 270 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: Man, Thank you, Bro. 271 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 8: Grateful to God man to give me those talents and 272 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 8: you know, to nurture you know, like I said, but 273 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 8: I did watch y'all still too, like for real man, 274 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 8: y'alloy balling I here, you know. 275 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 7: And that was part of my study. 276 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 8: That's what made me even more great, like learning from y'all, 277 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 8: Like I took little things that you did good, you know, 278 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 8: and added to my game, you know why not? You know, 279 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 8: And I'm gonna continue to work on that, you know 280 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 8: what I'm saying. So, Man, that means a lot to me, 281 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 8: Bro to hear that come from y'all bro getting my 282 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 8: flowers like that. You know, I wanted to be a standard, 283 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 8: you know. I reached to be a standard. Can't say 284 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 8: I didn't. I really wanted to make quarterbacks mad more 285 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 8: than anything, Like my goal was to Honestly, it wasn't 286 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl and all that stuff until my last 287 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 8: year as much. I mean, it was the super Bowl, 288 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 8: but it was really to have quarterbacks pissed. 289 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: Off like that was my goal. 290 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 8: Like you're really good at it, yeah, Like if I 291 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 8: can make them frustrated like that will do something to them, 292 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 8: you know, because they don't have to think as much. 293 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 8: So when you get guys like Brady and Belichick talking 294 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 8: about fine at every play. 295 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 7: Like that, that was it. Like, that was what I 296 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 7: wanted to accomplish. 297 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 8: And they had everybody else listen because everybody was shooting 298 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 8: to be them. 299 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 7: Yes, you know what I'm saying. 300 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 8: And then they had everybody running the two overs and 301 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 8: the speedo. 302 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 7: You know, and. 303 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 8: You know that that was all part of it, man, 304 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 8: Like for real, bro, Like, I just really wanted them 305 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 8: to be mad and trying to be a standard, you know, 306 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 8: and outside of coming from you know, New Orleans here Louisiana, 307 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 8: you know, just play football. 308 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, talk to me about some of the work 309 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: you're doing with direct TV. Yeah. 310 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 8: Man, it's direct TV has a streaming package and my 311 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 8: sports dot Com they can go to. 312 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 7: It's what ESPN fox is everywhere. 313 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 8: You know, you get on DirecTV dot Com and the 314 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 8: sports package are streaming everything what you need right there. 315 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 7: You know, Like we grew up watching football. 316 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 8: I said it over there out of shime, like you 317 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 8: got to watch the sports that you want to play. 318 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 8: These youngsters I see today like don't watch it as much. 319 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: You know. 320 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 8: They they play the game and figure it. Okay, that's it. No, 321 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 8: you like we used to emulate guys. Like I said, 322 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 8: I watched y'all, like I still watched it, you know, 323 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 8: as I still watch it now a little different than 324 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 8: when we played seeing the twenty two, but that's part 325 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 8: of it, you know. So yeah, man, direct TV, I've 326 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 8: been partnering with them and they have the streaming live 327 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 8: ESPN foxes everywhere. 328 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: Go get it well, and man, I know you got 329 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: to go go TV man. 330 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: But I'm just every time you get to sit down 331 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 5: and talk to you, I'm so appreciative of it. And 332 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: I'm just like this young man with the Eagles hat on. Man, 333 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: it's just pointing that you just appreciate your read How 334 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: ready is you appreciate your tradition? 335 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, look you gotta beat the champs. 336 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 8: You got to say, you gotta beat the champs, you know, 337 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 8: But for me, I'm like, if get one, you should. 338 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: Be in there. Appreciate you coming. Said, alrighty bro, we're 339 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: gonna take a short break and we'll be right back. 340 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: This next guy's coming up. This is the second time 341 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: on the podcast. NFL Legend and CEO of Cosm Ladies 342 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: and Gentlemen, J Terry. 343 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me on. Boys. 344 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: Good to be here. Yeah, man, I'll take the NFL 345 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: Legend all day. Like, thanks for that intro. Come on listen. 346 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 4: You know a lot of changed last time you were 347 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: on the show. You were starting to introduce and now 348 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: I've seen you on, so kind of walk me through 349 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: that process. 350 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: What exactly is Cosm? What exactly is Cosm? That's the 351 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: question everybody has. Man, It's the world's coolest viewing experience 352 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: in our opinion. 353 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: We built this amazing place where fans can come and 354 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: lean in and it's like you're actually there. We've created 355 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: a new category, which has been something that's been really 356 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: rewarding because all it is is just Cosm. So people 357 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: now are defining our experience by the name of the brand, 358 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: and fans can come in to our venues and it 359 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: is the coolest sports entertainment watch party experience you've ever 360 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 4: been to. 361 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: The coolest part though, is like, this is your second 362 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: time on the show. You're on about a year ago 363 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: and you briefly talked about projects that. 364 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: There were with COSM that were up on the ras. 365 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, tell us what those were in the last year, 366 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: because a lot has happened in the last year, so. 367 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: We've seen you. A lot has happened. 368 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: So we've announced a lot of the things we're doing 369 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: on the business front. We're opening two more venues next year. 370 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: Where are they at. We have la we have Dallas, 371 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: We're opening Atlanta, and we're opening Detroit. Okay, you didn't 372 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: want to come to We're looking. 373 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: Got to sign in Chicago. I gotta, I gotta sign 374 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: in Chicago. Let's let's do this. We can make something. 375 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: I know people, it's cool it in Normals and it's 376 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: cool it in Charlotte. 377 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: Did I say that? Allowed? Yes? I did that is correct? 378 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: Keep going. I'm sorry. 379 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 4: Look, we came out a lot of people to know 380 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: what we were doing, right, So we had to build 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 4: this brand. We had to start driving fans. When fans 382 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: came in. 383 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: It just went viral. 384 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: We always expected it to, but people can't help themselves. 385 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: They take out their phone and it's it's gone. Every 386 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: sport that we've done, people are talking about it. And uh, 387 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: we actually get to, you know, finish out the football 388 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 4: season with the super Bowl on Sunday. 389 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: It's going to be the hell of a show. 390 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: How cool is it to where what you said to 391 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: me I thought was so important? Is that the brand 392 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 5: recognition Now the experience literally is causic, like it's defining 393 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: the thing because nobody really knows what it is. It's 394 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 5: almost like we don't know what Jordan is. We just 395 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: know the Like the young people, they never watched. 396 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: Them, they just know the Jumpman logo. That's it, right, 397 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: you know? Is that? How cool does that feel? 398 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 5: When you start to recognize that that is what Cosm 399 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: is starting to become. 400 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: That is the most rewarding thing you wear your swag 401 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: or swag anywhere, especially in La or Dallas. People are like, oh, 402 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: Cosm right, It's one of those things where people are 403 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 4: starting to see it, which is which is really really rewarding. 404 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 4: And then you ask someone who's been there, they go, 405 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 4: why don't you describe Cosm and like, I can't, I 406 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: can't describe it. 407 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: It's like a. 408 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 4: Dome and it's immersive and it's high ris and it's 409 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: just the coolest place I've ever been. And that's been 410 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 4: the best part because fans can't describe, they just know 411 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: they like it. Yeah, and that that's the beauty of 412 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: the business that we've built, because we find it hard 413 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: to be for people to compete against this. Right now, 414 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: there will be competitors coming, but because of everything we 415 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: put together, the fact that we've kind of defined the category, 416 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: if someone does come up, they're gonna be like, oh, that's. 417 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Just like a worst version of Cosm. 418 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 5: Right, all right, what are you guys doing for Super 419 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: Bowl with COSM? I know it's the biggest most watched 420 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 5: sporting event probably America. 421 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: So what are you guys doing for. 422 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we have the game live in LA and 423 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: Dallas and Dallas it's actually going to be of a 424 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: rising fan fest. So they're doing these around the country. 425 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 4: Cosm is the home of that one. And then in 426 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: LA we're open to the public. We have a big 427 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: you know, block party, the streets blocked off out front. 428 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: You guys have been in the offices over there right 429 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 4: by that that's all blocked off. Huge fan fest there, 430 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: and it is going to be like you're in New Orleans. 431 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 4: You know. The tagline we're working on is like, if 432 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 4: you can't be there, be a cosm and we're going 433 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: to transport the super Bowl there. We've got programs and 434 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: cups and swag and it's gonna be. 435 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: It's gonna be held of a show. That's cool. So 436 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: what is it? 437 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 5: What is the slogan? If you can't be there, be 438 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 5: a cosm, be a that is a slogan. He just 439 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: said it. 440 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: You didn't you didn't get it. I got it, you 441 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 3: got it, I got it was there. 442 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 4: You know what's the coolest thing is we have the 443 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: super Bowl on Sunday. The night before, we have UFC 444 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: three twelve from Sydney, Australia right in an NHL game 445 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: and EFL soccer match. So we're running the. 446 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 3: Thing about Cosmo is you have to have those special cameras. Yeah, right, 447 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: So do you is this done a year in advance 448 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: as far as like getting your camera specific camera in 449 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: like Australia or at a soccer match or a football 450 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: match or a UFC match, Like, how does that work well. 451 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: So that's the coolest part about the story, right is 452 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: there's so many layers to what we've built, and we've 453 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: been building this for the past five years, right, So, yeah, 454 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: it is our production crew. We've got twenty two cameras 455 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: here in the stadium today, okay for Sunday, Yeah, doing 456 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: things for the broadcast and also doing production for COSM. 457 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 4: We have a team that takes a kit and goes 458 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 4: out there, flies to Australia, sets it up, runs back. 459 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: Only two people have to go to that really lightweight 460 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: set up. And we're gonna be doing more and more 461 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 4: about this. You're gonna see more of our camera tech 462 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: show up around sport in general. And it's a big 463 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: growth vertical for our business because we offer some really 464 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: cool views. Because you guys know the pylon cameras, Yeah 465 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: you're diving, that's us, Okay, Yeah, we do about sixty 466 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: percent of that, and the line to gain ones that move, 467 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: that's us. And so now we have all these immersive 468 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 4: views everywhere around the field. 469 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think the camera angles have 470 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 5: really changed the game, the game in which the way 471 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 5: the viewers see it feel like we're there because we 472 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 5: can actually see where the line to gain is, and 473 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 5: you know, we see the yellow line, but they always say. 474 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: That's not that's the official thought about putting cameras in 475 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: the in. 476 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 4: The first Yeah, you thought about it, but then they're 477 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 4: not wired. There's oref there's all sorts of things. But yes, 478 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: there there's always wonderful. It feels like it makes we 479 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: can do that. That's our thing, that's your thing. Maybe 480 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: we could do that. Well, it's not our thing anymore 481 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: because we just told everybody we can take this, this 482 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: is not this isn't lit. We can tape it, we 483 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: can edit this, we can edit all this out. 484 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: So you want to edit that out. I absolutely want 485 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: to edit that. We're going to talk to Thomas in 486 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: the corner here. Gona edit that part out. Why specifically 487 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: you got You said Detroit and Atlanta? 488 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: I get Atlanta. Why why Detroit? 489 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: You look at Detroit firstly, right, it's got the numbers 490 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: of population to support we're doing, like that's the filter. 491 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: You absolutely, But then you look at the fandom that's 492 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: going on there, and there's just rabid sports fans. Detroitter's 493 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: come out, they do right, there's four major sports teams there. 494 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: You got the Lions, the Red Wings, the Pistons, the Tigers, 495 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: and we have a fantastic spot right where the draft 496 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: was last year. So you remember the draft. 497 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: The record numbers though, record numbers, record numbers for the 498 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: draft they had. 499 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: It's like seven hundred and fifty thousand. Yes, crazy Detroit 500 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: showed up last year. They show up. 501 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, So you know, great relationship with our development 502 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: partners there. There's a lot of reasons to like it. 503 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: And look, we have call it six more venues in 504 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: the pipeline right now. We're about to announce cities and 505 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 4: do that. So we're scaling this. 506 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: Tell me where would you guys put this place at 507 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 5: in Atlanta? Yeah, I would like to know where, and 508 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: then tell me some of the other cities that you 509 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: guys have in mind with. 510 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: So Atlanta, we're in centinial yards, so you know the 511 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: new developments happening right there by State Farm and Mercedes 512 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 4: Benz and so they're building that whole thing up. It 513 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 4: is going to be a killer entertainment district. So we're 514 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 4: right there. More cities we're looking at. We're looking at Chicago, 515 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: We're looking in New York, bust in Nashville, Tampa, Phoenix, Vegas, Charlotte, 516 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: We're looking in Austin, Houston, San Antonio. We think every 517 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 4: major city in the US can have a COSM, some 518 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: of them can have two or three cool So that's 519 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 4: and that's the enterprise we built as a company is 520 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 4: to be able to do that. So yeah, we're gonna 521 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: announceding more here soon. 522 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: What's one sporting event that you see COSM hosting that 523 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: you don't have currently right now we. 524 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: Don't have Probably will be an F one race. Okay, 525 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: we're looking at cricket. I want to bring cricket to COSM. 526 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if you know how to play cricket, well, 527 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: you don't need to know. Just all you need to 528 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 5: know is that it lasts a long time. 529 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: It lasts a long time. It can last like a day. Right, Yeah, 530 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: we won't do we'll do the day. We like the 531 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: three hours. 532 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: But the cool thing is it's got a cool day part, 533 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: but meaning we can show it at night when we 534 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: don't have sports that are happening in the US. So 535 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 4: you think about that, and there's just fans everywhere. The 536 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: cricket community is massive, billions of fans. So that's one 537 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: I think we'll probably explore, but we have done almost 538 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 4: everything else. 539 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 5: Okay and Jim without downplaying anybody Else's what has been 540 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: your best experience of like game watching at Cosm. Like 541 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 5: for me, I imagine it would be a World Cup game. Yeah, 542 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 5: the emotions, the field, World Cup is different, it already 543 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: is different. Yeah, and so that would probably be my 544 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 5: number one fan experience. Five was in cos It's about yours, 545 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: all right. I loved that we had a lot of 546 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: NFL snow games this year. It just looks different, and 547 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 5: the snow coming down, it feels it literally feels like 548 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 5: you're getting snowed on you, like people are putting on 549 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: their Jackets's kind of it's wild. It's it's it's I'll 550 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 5: show you videos on my phone. It's it is crazy 551 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: how people react. But the Dodgis World Series was next, 552 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 5: well actually probably one of my top probably five sports 553 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 5: all time memories. Now, I was sitting in Cosm Game one, 554 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 5: Freddie Freeman Grand Slam, bottom of the tenth, the top blue. 555 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 5: I mean, then you went absolutely nuts. It was a 556 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: breakout moment for our company, but it really proved what 557 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 5: we're trying to do. Fans felt like they were there, mean, 558 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: fans were crying and hugging, and then going through that 559 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 5: World Series run was just insane. We had confetti machines 560 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: and and that's when we realized not only what we 561 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: can do from an execution perspective as a company, but 562 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: how fans can lean in and be like they're there. 563 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: Fans were like, fans were just losing their minds. 564 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: It probably might be cheaper just a fly to La 565 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: and experience there then actually going to the event. Not 566 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: probably that's cheaper. Okay, sorry, it is cheaper. Yeah, I 567 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: might just have to do that. I don't want to 568 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: go to a World Cup. Well, it's also cool because 569 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 3: like the whole dog, I can totally imagine that. I 570 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 3: watched that game with the Dodgers, and yeah, the thing 571 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 3: was like having show Hey like be right there in 572 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: front of Freddie Freeman, so like that's what you thought 573 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: it was going to be. 574 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then show he gets out everybody and then 575 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: the whole crowd's. 576 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 4: Going fady and everyone's just going nuts. 577 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Man, that was great. That was a cool moment. I 578 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: can imagine that. That was really really cool. 579 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: Now do you see yourself just doing mostly cosm events 580 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: or do you still go out and actually try to 581 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 3: go to an actual sporting event. 582 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: There's nothing like going to the actual event. Okay, I 583 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 4: let me put that out there. Yeah, we are not 584 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 4: taking away from people buying, that's right. So being in 585 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: the actual game, right, it's it's tough. You're never gonna 586 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: be that, but we love it being the kind of 587 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: The third place is cosm. So yeah, at stadium, at home, 588 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 4: at cosm, right, that's that's where we're thinking. And and look, 589 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: the convenience of it is awesome. And if I'm taking 590 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: my whole family, you know, my wife, three kids, going 591 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: to cosms pretty easy, right, cheaper. 592 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 5: I have to ask this question because naturally, as former 594 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: athletes and players, you don't get to actually be involved 595 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: with the experience of the games, right, right, you go, 596 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 5: you play, you're not really you don't feel the vibes. Yeah, 597 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: what made you understand that part? But understand like, man, 598 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 5: what game did you go to? It's like, man, I 599 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: got to be able to recreate this and take this 600 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: somewhere else, and then all of a sudden, you got 601 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 5: to recreate cosmic. 602 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: It's a great question, A great question. Well, look, I 603 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: loving sports like we do, or you're inherently a fan 604 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: of the game. 605 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. 606 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: And one of the things I saw actually when I 607 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 4: was playing football, like I was an alignment, not a 608 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: big name. I was in Tampa and fans when they 609 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: came through a fan fest. You know, they've got the 610 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: Buccaneers tattooed on their chest and stuff like that. They're 611 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: asking for my autograph. That's more Florida, man, man. And 612 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: but you're looking at this, You're looking at this, and 613 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: you're going, man, this fandom is just real. 614 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: It is. 615 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: It is pervasive, and so from a business career, it's like, 616 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: all right, how do I take what I know about 617 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: sports and super serve these fans with cool stuff? 618 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: Right? That's kind of been the through line. And then 619 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: when I worked at Fox, I. 620 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: Got to see the other side of it, like the 621 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: event side, the production side, seeing what the fans were doing. 622 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 4: And that's why coming up with COSM was really the 623 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: combination of all these various experiences and then knowing the 624 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 4: fan passion is just so real. Anything you can do 625 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 4: to give them more and give them a quality experience, 626 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: they're going to lean into. And look, it's a huge responsibility. 627 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: You can't have a water down product. You got to 628 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: lean in and have respect for that passion. And if 629 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: you do that, the fans will lean in back and 630 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: they'll just lean in and have fun with it. 631 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: And you've got to let me know when y'all come 632 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: to Chicago. I'm so, I'm where where would you? 633 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: Where? Where should I go in Chicago? Where would I 634 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: do it? In Chicago? Lincoln Park? Lincoln Park is a 635 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: good area. They got space. I like that area. 636 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: How much room do you need actually for your four 637 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: your set up? Not a ton? 638 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 4: Thirty thousand square feet is the footprint? Oh so less 639 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: than an acre? 640 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: Fulton Market? Fulton Market? And you know how you waked 641 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: every when I said that, I was like, how much? 642 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Fulton Market. That's that's the spot. It's the 643 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: spot I was just there to last week. 644 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh happened. Let's go. This is happening right now. I'm 645 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: loving this. I'm loving this. 646 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 3: Come to Chicago. I'm I'm there, I'm a I'm a partner, 647 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: I'm a fan. Let's do this, Let's do that's the 648 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: energy we need. 649 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: Let's do this. I'm for it. Let's do this. Rome 650 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: come on, well, pick yourself. 651 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna come home and get us up out of 652 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 5: here man, So Jeff, thank you so much. Man, you 653 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 5: did an awesome job as always. 654 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: Thanks. 655 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 5: I'm so excited for continue to grow success everything that 656 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: you are doing and as cause of your family. Beautiful 657 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: job man, Thank you. We can't help wait to continue 658 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: to support. Appreciate, thanks you. 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