1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hi everyone, 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Kelly, and I'm Mike Lynch and I'm Michael 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: bar And this is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: where we explore the big money issues in the world 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: of sports today. Super excited to be talking with Todd Ramassar. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: He is the founder and the CEO of Life Sports Agency. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: It's a global sports media and tech company geared towards 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: maximizing client performance, brand value, all the rest of it. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: It's a perfect time to be talking to him. He 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: works closely with a lot of NBA players and we're 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: just talking a little bit Todd before we came on 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: about how the NBA they have managed to become a 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: year round story. Lots of people looking at the summer 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: league that just wrapped up, of course, the draft. What 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: do you make of this time of year? What's your 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: life like right now? You know, just trying to sort 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: of pull all these threads together. Well, for first of all, gentlemen, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys having me on, and you know what 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I tell you, it's good to be back because I'd 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: like to think that this is a normal off season. 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: But with all the circumstances that all of us have 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: been dealing with with the pandemic. It was just great 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: to be back, um, not just as a relates of 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: free agency, but also just being back UM at the 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, the NBA Summer League that just concluded yesterday, 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just seeing UM some familiar faces 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: and just being back in that normal cycle and routine. 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's great. And then um, of course UM 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: is still being in free agency now we're about going 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: on week three, are going into week three or free agency. 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: We've seen some interesting signings and seeing how teams are 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: just preparing for this upcoming season, which will be back 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: on a normal track of you know, eighty two regular 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: season games and playoffs, and the calendar itself, the NBA 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: calendar is back to normal because it's a go back 36 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: in last off season with the bubble and then obviously 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: a shortened off season and then a short and regular season. UM, 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: it's just good to see things back into a normal flow. 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: The NBA Draft just completed a few weeks ago. Uh, 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Pistons got the number one draft Kid Cunningham. I go 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: on down the line. Uh, that has turned into a 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: huge media event. Which years ago nineteen dirt you never 43 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: heard of that back then, but now it is must 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: see TV, especially if you're an NBA fan. I think 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of that is you know, this is my 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, twenty plus year in this industry that started 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, And I tell you the evolution 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: of this business to to that point is like I 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: been a lot of it to uh, to social media 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: and just the news cycle in in overall in sports. 51 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: So you know, the NBA Draft, everyone's tuning in and 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: it's this uh big event in spectacle that you know that. 53 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: I think the NBA has done a tremendous job of 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: marketing and branding. And you know, for a fan, you know, 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: for your fan base and people that you know follow 56 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: their teams in the NBA, they want to tune in 57 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: because they may be seeing their team land the next 58 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: superstar face of the NBA. UM. And I think that 59 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: event is going to just continue to grow um, you 60 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: know um over the next few years, especially as the 61 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: game of basketball and the NBA grows globally. Uh. You know, 62 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: it's not just you know, North American fans that are 63 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: tuning in. You have fans that are are tuning in 64 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: and uh, in markets globally as well as you know, 65 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: streaming the events that they could see it and if 66 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: they're not watching it live, just based on social media 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and how that news is being disseminated. Uh, they're they're 68 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: they're getting excited about who these players are, both you know, 69 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: domestic players as well as international players that are being drafted. 70 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Hey Todd, it's Mike lynch up in Boston. UM. With 71 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: two trunc aided seasons behind us. Now, did the players 72 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: who were free agents on this market this summer received 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: fair market value? Do you think? I think so? I 74 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: thought we saw some some good signings. UM. I think 75 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: if we look at all of the most recent free 76 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: agency and markets, like the players that you know produced 77 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: in their contract year and depending on what in some 78 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: ways the market dictated. Um, you saw at least this, Um, 79 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: you saw this offseason that free agents were getting paid 80 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: their fair market value. UM. So I didn't see any surprises. UM, 81 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see any surprises whatsoever. We may have read 82 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: about some players I won't name any of that you know, 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: may have received UM contracts lower than maybe anticipated, and 84 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: there was less than a handful, but that was maybe 85 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: because they timed the market wrong. Uh, And they may 86 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: have had opportunities in the past assigned contract extensions at 87 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: what I think we're their fair market value. But you know, 88 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're when you're trying to time the market 89 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: place in your favor, sometimes it works against you. And 90 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: we saw that this year. Um, so, I don't think 91 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: it was a matter of teams or excuse me, players 92 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: receiving less than their market value opposed that maybe them 93 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: timing the market improperly. So Todd talked to us about 94 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: kind of weaving together so many different elements in the NBA. 95 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: You have player empowerment, which takes on obviously some social activism, 96 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: but also for lack of better terms, sort of economic 97 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: activism in many ways. And and the NBA gets written 98 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: about and talked about a lot, as you know, a 99 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: very player driven league in many ways. What are sort 100 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: of in your estimation, sort of the upsides and the 101 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 1: downsides of that, because it is a little bit different, 102 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and and you do have some some old timers, as 103 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: it were, saying, well, it's just about the players, it's 104 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: not about the teams anymore. And these super teams being created, etcetera. 105 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: As you sort of distill all that down. As someone 106 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: who is representing players, what do you make of it? 107 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: I think the league is evolving with their demographic of players, 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not just the league as a whole, 109 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: it's also society, you know. For me as an agent, 110 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I was up in the business now 111 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: over two decades, you know, I started as a teenager 112 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: in this business. In my perspective was probably was was 113 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: was really player centric because these were my peers. As 114 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: I've gotten older and I've continued to guide my clients, um, 115 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: my experience has obviously changed and evolved, but my lens 116 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: is always staying in tune with what that demographic wants 117 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: right or or how they're viewing the world. So for me, 118 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, people are always going to have 119 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: their opinions. I have my opinions that at times maybe 120 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: isn't completely aligned with you know, maybe as an old 121 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: school way of thinking or I say, a traditional way 122 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: of thinking. But I think you have to change and 123 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: adapt with the times, and if you don't, then you 124 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: get left behind because as you mentioned, old timers, you know, 125 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: old timers at some point become irrelevant. We all do, 126 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: and it's always the next generation behind us that is 127 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: dictating the future. And that's where I commend the m 128 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: b A. It's like, you know, um, their progressive um 129 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: there forward thinking. Uh, in the moment, we may not 130 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: agree with it or or let's just what I say 131 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: we as you know, people may have their opinions that 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: is not aligned with that. But I think Adam Silver 133 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: has done a tremendous job of leading the NBA and 134 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: its owners. And you know, I think that's proofen in 135 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: terms of m that they're doing a good job in 136 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: terms of the growth of the game and again not 137 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: just here in the US, but globally. So I want 138 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: to press you on that point. I can if I 139 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: can a little bit, because I feel like we're getting 140 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: something really interesting here, which is this notion of you know, 141 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: you played the game in college. You know you can 142 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: speak to these players maybe in a different way than 143 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: agents of your could in many ways. You think about 144 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: all the press and we spend some time in this show, 145 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: and I've spent some time talking to Rich Paul in 146 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: sort of his perspective. I mean, you guys to collectively 147 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: or are bringing a different attitude, a different perspective that 148 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: seems to have an effect on on this broader both 149 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: empowerment and sort of seizing control, I would argue, in 150 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: a very good way, um, you know, and and sort 151 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: of shifting the balance of power. Do you agree I 152 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: I do. Um, you know, I like to think I'm 153 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: a very good listener. I think, as I've gotten again 154 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: more experience in this business, is better to listen than 155 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: to to share my thoughts. Initially, I do a I'm 156 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: very intentional about listening to my clients and their perspectives 157 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: and how they view the world. And you know, unlike 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: maybe twenty years or prior to that, like you know, again, 159 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: this generation, what I find, they want to be socially active. 160 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: They want to use their platform to give their their 161 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions on social issues, um, humanitarian as well, 162 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: and and that's them, that's that's their voice. And I 163 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's just in sports. I think it's across 164 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: again it and you know, we've seen it in entertainment 165 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: probably for some time. I think sports is following suit, 166 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: especially as sports becomes that much more synonymous with entertainment. 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: And I don't I don't see that changing. I think 168 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: as again, um, you know, for an older demographic or 169 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: in even mine. It's like growing up watching the Michael 170 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Jordan's of the world and and other star athletes. They 171 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: may not have been so out you know, maybe outspoken 172 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: or give their thoughts on some of these issues. But 173 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: again with social media, in these platforms and and all 174 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: these world events that have impacted this generation that's coming 175 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: to age, that's that's what they want to speak to. 176 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: And some people agree with it and some people don't. 177 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, my my my role as an agent in 178 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: a mentor and an advisor in a fiduciary and a 179 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: number of other hats I wear, is to guide my clients, 180 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: advise them properly, but at the end of the day, 181 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: support them in the impact that they want to make 182 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: with their lives, both on and off the court, you know, 183 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: whether it be their families or communities. Speaking of old 184 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: school geezer, that's me. I'm gonna go back even farther 185 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan. Can you imagine if Luel Sender had 186 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Twitter or if Dave Bing had Twitter back in the 187 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: day compared to now? It's is it a different mindset 188 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: today than what it was back in the day of 189 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: like a Dave Byng or in an hour back. That's 190 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: a great question. I think things go in cycles to UM, 191 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: like it's um, it's one of those things to your point, 192 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: like lu a sender or or Muhammad Ali is you know, UM. 193 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: You know some of these great athletes and social activists, 194 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: like if they had those platforms, they may have been, UM, 195 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: they may have been more outspoken on those platforms and 196 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: be maybe more broadly accepted. Also, when you think about, um, 197 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: the business of sports, you know, how many opportunities did 198 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: those great athletes to men and and and and women 199 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: lose in corporate America right in terms of sponsorship or 200 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: other opportunities because those ideas weren't so widely accepted. I 201 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: think now some of those brands and you see cause 202 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: marketing and some of their social initiatives knowing that the 203 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: broader demographic is changing and they want to have social impact. UM, 204 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: and not just athletes. I'm talking about consumers and fans. 205 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: They're they're a lot more accepting of athletes having their 206 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: opinions on social injustices or philanthropic initiatives and things of such. 207 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's more broadly accepted. So UM, those you know, 208 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: the lual senders of the world, you know, the Muhammad 209 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Alis of the world. Those were the U I guess 210 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you could say the trailblazers for this that this generation 211 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: may look back to. But it's something that's constantly evolving. 212 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: Who knows what the next a few decades dictates and 213 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: and how that may be impacted even further from again 214 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: world events in different trends. Hey Todd, this is something 215 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: a discussion I have with a lot of the agents 216 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: we have on this show. UM, And I'm involved with 217 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: it at the high school level in Massachusetts, financial literacy. Um, 218 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: it's an issue. It's a challenge. Sometimes it's a roadblock. 219 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: Where do we need it? Do we need in high school? 220 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: Do we need it in colleges? Do we need it 221 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: with every representative of every player in every sport? And 222 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: is it a real hard issue to deal with? Um? 223 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: It's not a hard issue if there's a right approach, UM, 224 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: And I guess to answer your question more direct, it 225 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: should start as young as possible. And it's and it's 226 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: and it's a in some ways a complex issue in 227 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: my opinion, being African American, it's like, UM, you know, 228 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to have parents that are entrepreneurs 229 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: and had success in business, So certain conversations maybe at 230 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: the dinner table or even um, you know, maybe even 231 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: some of the things that I've learned through osmosis of 232 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: just being in the environment, Uh you know, it's led 233 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: me to be an entrepreneur myself. That we can't say 234 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: that that's the case for for every demographic, right. So 235 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: the big part of my role that I found success 236 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: with my client intos explaining the why I always say 237 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: that to my guys is always ask why, like why 238 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: am I advising this or or or as it relates 239 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: to financial literacy, like how or why do things work 240 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: this way? I think the sooner that we're able to 241 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: educate um you know, um you know, athletes or entertainers 242 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: or individuals that are going to be high income earners 243 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: at a very young age that don't have, you know, 244 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: that background in finance or or um or or financial literacy, 245 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: the younger that we could get to them and educate them, 246 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I think, the more empowered they're going to be in 247 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the future once they come into um, you know, come 248 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: into you know, uh, you know, that that high income 249 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: that they're earning year over year. Because what I find 250 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: is if that foundation isn't laid or early once once 251 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: you know they're starting to see those checks that are 252 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: in six figures or seven or eight figures, you know, 253 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: every two weeks or every month for a long period 254 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: of time, and there's not an understanding of the tax 255 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: implications and just other things. It becomes much harder for 256 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: them to understand those concepts in the future. Well, because 257 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: for a lack of immollect, it's just a lack of 258 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: maybe knowledge or someone taking the time to explain things 259 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: to them early on. Well and Todd, it's so interesting 260 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to hear you say that and about the complex and everything, 261 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: because we've been we'll seeking a lot of late on 262 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: this show, and I'm sure you have with your clients 263 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: as well, and you've been thinking about it as well, 264 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: especially as a former college athlete, about n I L 265 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: and the rules there and how much that has changed 266 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: immediately the economics of all of this. How do you 267 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: figure that in, especially with that lens that you have 268 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: as someone who went through that process of being a 269 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: college athlete with the former rules and now um kind 270 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: of weaving that into your business. UM. I think it's 271 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: great that n I L IS is now available to 272 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: high school athletes, student athletes and collegiate student athletes. As 273 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: a former student athlete, UM, I think, UM, I think 274 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: it's a long time coming and long overdue. I do 275 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: have some concerns when things are introduced so quickly, because 276 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: there may you know, I think I try to put 277 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: myself in my eighteen year old self and not just 278 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: what I you know, what I experienced, but also what 279 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: I observed from teammates that are still close friends and 280 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: what they came through based on their backgrounds. Is I 281 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: guess my concern is, you know, for any eighteen year old, 282 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: as you're a high income earner, um is the responsibility 283 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: that comes along with that. I tell you, guys, my 284 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: best time of my life was college. You know, my 285 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: college experience at U C l A. And it wasn't 286 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: just the academics of relationships. It's it's the social aspect 287 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: as well. I think a lot of us could speak 288 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: to that, right and when you're when you when you 289 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: don't have much, you make the most out of circumstances. 290 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: I could only imagine if I had access to ten 291 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, a hundred thousand, or a million dollars as 292 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old on campus or even in high school. 293 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: That's where these individuals need to have a strong circle 294 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: or family background or foundation to again educate them and 295 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: in some ways protect them from themselves because you don't 296 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: know what you don't know when you're young. And you know, again, 297 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: when these are all ten nine income earners not W two, 298 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: are they going to understand the tax implications that come 299 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: along with those earnings. Um All, so if you're an 300 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: international student athlete, you do not have the ability to 301 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: earn in the US because you are on a student 302 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: visa opposed to a work visa. UM. So, like just 303 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: making sure that these student athletes and the families and 304 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: in their circle are educated. UM. I think it's going 305 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: to be crucial in not just the success of n 306 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I l UH implementation, but also making sure that it 307 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: continues to grow over time. Those opportunities and there's no 308 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: I guess you could say negative outcomes that come about 309 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that people point to, say n I l being the 310 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: reasons for a potential fallout. The NFL has adopted a rule, 311 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: according to the league that if a team has to 312 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: forfeit a game because of a COVID outbreak UH, not 313 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: only will the team forfeiting lose a paycheck, but also 314 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: the team that was they were supposed to show up 315 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: and play will lose a paycheck. I can see that 316 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: being even more of a problem in the NBA because 317 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: you're only fielding so many guys. First of all, is 318 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: what the NFL doing? Is it fair? And two could 319 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: we see something like that in the NBA. That's a 320 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: great question. Um. I think a matter of it being 321 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: fair enne is relative to the policies and procedures in 322 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: place better governing the overall health and safety of not 323 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: just the athletes see and say the NFL or the NBA, 324 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: but are protecting the health and safety of all the 325 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: personnel involved as well. I do believe in freedom of choice. Obviously, 326 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's once prerogative too to be vaccinated or 327 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: choose not to be vaccinated. But at the end of 328 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: the day, if there's a policy in place hypothetically where 329 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, all the athletes and personnel are vaccinated and someone, um, 330 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: someone contracts COVID and now it impacts the whole roster 331 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: in which a game is suspended, then no, I don't 332 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: think it's fair that their salaries are being impacted, right, 333 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: because that's no different than everyone coming down with the 334 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: flu and they can't participate in that activity right in 335 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, Now, if there's a freedom of choice and 336 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: the policies are allowing that, then they need to be 337 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: There need to be certain policies in place that protect 338 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: both vaccinated and unvaccinated personnel, both players and team personnel, 339 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: so that it doesn't lead to those outcomes that could 340 00:21:54,960 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: then impact that personnel, including players financially. Todd, what is 341 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: it appear that the players Association in the NBA has 342 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: the best relationship with labor relationship, best relationship with the 343 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: owners and the commissioner as opposed to all the other 344 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: major sports. Why do you think that is? Why? And 345 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I understand your question 346 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: as it relates to the NBA specifically between the union, 347 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: there always seems to be a rift or a chasm 348 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: between the baseball players and the Commissioner's office, Football players 349 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: and Roger Goodell. The relationship between Adam Silver and going 350 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: back to David Stern with the players seems to be 351 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: the tightest relationship business wise, labor wise, and even the 352 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: friendship wise. Why do you think that is? I think 353 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: it's I think it's a number of things that that 354 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: is uh to Adam Silver and Michelle Roberts credit as 355 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: both the leaders of the union in the league. Also 356 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: we touched on it earlier. The NBA is a player 357 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: centric league that understands that I think their players happiness 358 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: and success leads to the overall growth of the NBA. 359 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: UM And you know, in times like this, when there's 360 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: an act of God, like a pandemic, you need a 361 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: strong relationship to come up with solutions because the reality is, 362 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: like in most labor negotiations, you have agents and players 363 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: on one side, you know, the league office and owners 364 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: on another side, and sometimes you could get contentious in 365 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: terms of that negotiation in times like but but even 366 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: when it gets contentious, if you're looking in the same 367 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: direction again, you can have outcomes that are beneficial to 368 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the both sides. And that's the outcome I would I 369 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: would hope that any league or business would want in 370 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: the NBA's cases, having that strong relationship and that dialogue. 371 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: That's that's constant. And Adam has been you know, in 372 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: the league office has been open to you know, conversations 373 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: with players individually. Um, you know, I've taken my clients 374 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: up to the league office to meet with UM, you know, 375 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: with Adam and some of the other senior executives there, 376 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: and it's been great in terms of the support, not 377 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: just in terms of their play on the court, but 378 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: there again their social initiatives and things that uh, you know, 379 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: resonate with the players or players as a whole. So 380 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: I think it's just the outreach. It's it's the constant 381 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: communication and dialogue, and then it just comes down to 382 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: leadership at the top on both sides. You know the 383 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: fact that Michelle and Adam have a great relationship when 384 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: it comes to those tough decisions that have to be made, 385 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: whether again it's acts of God's or acts of God 386 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: or or or other policies, they're they're able to come, 387 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, find a solution or an outcome that that 388 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: both sides are happy with. Alright, how before we let 389 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: you go, just one last question is is you think 390 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: about UM this upcoming season. You know, you've got an 391 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: All Star in in your myths, you've got a top 392 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: draft pick in your mids. What's the biggest challenge business 393 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: wise for the NBA as we get into what should be, 394 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: hopefully we think, the most normal season we've seen in 395 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: a while what's on your mind from a businessman's perspective. 396 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, if if all things being normal, when I say, 397 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: um normal, not dealing with the pandemic, I think everything 398 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: is great. The fact of the matter is we're in 399 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: a pandemic still. I'd like to think, you know, we're 400 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: towards the light at the end of the tunnel. Um. 401 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: We educate ourselves on these pandemics. They say two years 402 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: and typically we're out of it, even with variants like 403 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: the delta variant we're dealing with now. But when you're 404 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: dealing with something that major, that's very fluid, that in 405 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: some cases are out of um, out of our control. 406 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: And when I say are not me as an agent 407 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: or my clients, but the league or society as a whole, 408 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: it's like you're dealing with curveballs being thrown at you 409 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: left and right, and you know right now, you know 410 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: is we went into spring. It's like we're very optimistic, 411 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: things are opening up, economy is moving back in the 412 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: right direct direction, and then we're hit with the delta 413 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: variant right, and we're seeing infection rates increase. Obviously we're 414 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: promoting vaccinations. Now they're talking about a booster shot. Like 415 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: my point being is when it's evolving like that, the 416 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: toughest challenge is in some ways you gotta you gotta 417 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: just trust the other side, or you gotta try. You 418 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: gotta work as a as a unit. It's not players 419 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: in the Union on one side, the league on another side. 420 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: It's you know, you've got to deal with matters as 421 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: a collective to make sure again that you're having the 422 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: outcomes that are beneficial to boats. It's and that's the 423 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: challenge going into this season is what is the winter 424 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: going to bring? What is travel going to bring? As 425 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: we you know, traveled back, you know, we're dealing with 426 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: in some cases to jurisdictions in the NBA. We still 427 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: have a team in Canada and their laws and their 428 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: approach is much different than it was here in the US. 429 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: I felt it personally in working with one of my 430 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: clients that plays for the Raptors, in terms of that 431 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: being the case or that being the case, And it's 432 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: not so simple. I think a lot of times maybe 433 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: fans or spectators are seeing the league is just like, oh, 434 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: you're it's entertainment, it's fastball. But when you're dealing with 435 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: laws and immigration and visa issues and a number of 436 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: different you know factors that are impacting the games or 437 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: travel or or even a case of the Raptors where 438 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: they had to relocate to Tampa in your uprooting families 439 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: not of just the players, but of personnel, where every 440 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: home game is an away game. You saw how that 441 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: impacted the Raptors, right for example, that's a team that's 442 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: accustomed to winning fifty plus games of BENO playoffs, that 443 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: not being in the playoffs. Um. So just we try 444 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: to deal with it as best as we can, trusting 445 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: leadership and uh and just working together as a unit 446 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: so that we have a successful season that's coming up, 447 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: or you hope to have a successful season that's not 448 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: going to be interrupted or impacted where you have to 449 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: cancel or reschedule games and um and then you just 450 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: continue moving forward so that you know overall from an 451 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: economic standpoint that it's a healthy season and you just 452 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: can continue building as we hopefully, um put the pandemic 453 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: behind us. Yeah, absolutely well, And to your point, I mean, 454 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: you even think about the different you know, laws and 455 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: regulations in Los Angeles versus Allas, versus Atlanta versus New York. 456 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean you know all that comes into play, UH 457 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: as well. We're really really good to get some time 458 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: with you. Thank you so much, Todd Ramazar. He is 459 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: the founder and CEO of Life Sports Agency based out 460 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. But if we know anything about this business, 461 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: he's always on the move. So really good UH to 462 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: catch up with you, and here's to a very successful 463 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: upcoming season and continued good luck with your business. Thank you, 464 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you gentlemen for having me on and 465 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: it's I hope to do it again sometime soon and 466 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: all the best all of you, Todd, Thank you, sir. 467 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast. I'm Michael 468 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Barr on Twitter had Big Bar Sports. Thank you, Todd. 469 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Lynch. 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