Speaker 1: This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at
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Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this
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Speaker 1: It's all Sorry, fellas, what up backstage? Joe? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Do Let's cut right into this. So I want to
Speaker 1: have a debate discussion me and my boys and on
Speaker 1: group chat. The other day, as Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 1: and Tim Duncan were inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: we start to have in this this text discussion around
Speaker 1: who's a legend and who's an icon. Some people are
Speaker 1: saying Kobe Bryant is an icon. I say Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: is a nicon right, one of the best power forwards
Speaker 1: of all time. And this isn't a necessarily a discussion
Speaker 1: about just basketball, but what makes a person a legend,
Speaker 1: what makes a person nicon, whether that's sports, whether that's whatever,
Speaker 1: But what's the difference between the two. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that there's a right and wrong answer. It was
Speaker 1: just a lot of good dialogue. So I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask my two guys, who have extensive history in sports,
Speaker 1: what's a legend and what's an icon? It's hard to
Speaker 1: really we utilize that word so much. And what's funny
Speaker 1: is you know, you you know, I always like to
Speaker 1: I like to look up words, the definition of the word.
Speaker 1: Which definition got you got dialed up? Right now? Icon? Okay,
Speaker 1: less commonly mhm mhm, s it bro, I said. Another
Speaker 1: one is a graphic symbol on a computer display screen. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to ask Siri. That ain't helping me.
Speaker 1: When I think sports, I always think, I go to
Speaker 1: the word legendary. I don't know if I've used the
Speaker 1: word icon from a sports perspective, but more like from
Speaker 1: an entertainer or a musician perspective for me. So, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you think about what singing icons or
Speaker 1: like like jay Z I call icon, I would say
Speaker 1: he's an icon. I don't say legendary, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Michael Jordan's and I, well,
Speaker 1: you know that I think the group, you know, top
Speaker 1: of the line is he's a legendary, he's not iconic,
Speaker 1: And you brought up Kobe, so I filled this back.
Speaker 1: Was was Kobe legendary while he was dunking on folks?
Speaker 1: And because he's moved on, is now the iconic? So
Speaker 1: people that have left us and gone to another place?
Speaker 1: I think we use the word icon much more than
Speaker 1: we do legendary. It almost seems as if do you
Speaker 1: have to earn being a legend? Yeah? You know what
Speaker 1: do we dub people icons and you have to earn legendary?
Speaker 1: It is it transitional? So yeah, that's what's So here's
Speaker 1: the here's the question that started off. So we reset
Speaker 1: it even though we don't what do we deem it
Speaker 1: more prestigious being an icon or a legend? Because here's where,
Speaker 1: here's where I go, Here's where I go. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Joe was going here or not. But you
Speaker 1: can be a legend and no one knows who you are,
Speaker 1: right Like they're people we probably know from back home
Speaker 1: that man, they were a legend, but maybe they didn't,
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't make it. Here's what I'm asking and
Speaker 1: this little this group of three out of the two,
Speaker 1: is legend one icon two? Or is icon one and legend?
Speaker 1: I put icon higher than the legend r I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say, I'll read what legend is coming down
Speaker 1: from the past popular regarding as historical, A person or
Speaker 1: thing that inspires that's legend. So again, based off those two,
Speaker 1: what do you deem or what do you say if
Speaker 1: we're trying to summarize the chicken or the egg? You know,
Speaker 1: what do we believe is more valuable to be a legend?
Speaker 1: Where a person or thing that inspires you coming down
Speaker 1: from the past or always saying icon, I think an
Speaker 1: icon is almost transcendent, right, Like like you mentioned jay
Speaker 1: Z is an icon in rap. Everyone everyone can Everyone
Speaker 1: has not established a career or reached the heights that
Speaker 1: the jay Z has, right, but you can be a
Speaker 1: legend in rap, right like we've we we talked to
Speaker 1: Mr Cheeks right like he is he is a legend.
Speaker 1: What what he did with Lost Boys being on Uptown records,
Speaker 1: He is a legend. It may not be an icon
Speaker 1: and rap. I don't really know which one Kobe is.
Speaker 1: I just know that he was someone. Whether you like
Speaker 1: them or not, he may impact on the game. Right
Speaker 1: when you're talking about when you talk about the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers and you have the Walton, you have the
Speaker 1: Korean Magic. Now where's Kobe? I feel whatever area you consider,
Speaker 1: if legend is one the icons tour icons want and
Speaker 1: legendars too, that it seems like it's a case by
Speaker 1: case basis. It is. But here's what I but here's
Speaker 1: what we do get confused and and I agree to,
Speaker 1: is sometimes we are saying a good player is legendary,
Speaker 1: and then you go and look up where they are
Speaker 1: on the stats, and they like, can you can you
Speaker 1: be legendary? Can you be legendary? And one in one
Speaker 1: field and maybe not another? Like you may not have
Speaker 1: been a good here's what the NFL player, but you
Speaker 1: were legendary in college or well here's what I think
Speaker 1: what happens. I think your player in your region, you
Speaker 1: have a different status when it comes to nationally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I agree, I agree, you know, like, um, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Alan Irison is iconic. I would say, but
Speaker 1: he a damn great legend right of the little guys
Speaker 1: he inspired? Right, Um, he was popular even at his age.
Speaker 1: He's still popular to some degree. But if you take
Speaker 1: Alan Irison, you compare him to some of the other
Speaker 1: point guards and shooting guards in the NBA. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it becomes a very heated argument. Again, it's no,
Speaker 1: it's no one size fits so. So, I mean, we
Speaker 1: could debate about this all day, but I just thought
Speaker 1: it was good because they're what they're our conversation in
Speaker 1: that group chat with the same conversation we just had.
Speaker 1: There is no right or wrong answer. It can be
Speaker 1: there's iconic imagery. There can be one day, or you
Speaker 1: can be an icon the next. It just depends was
Speaker 1: in that Oh well, I know one icon that he knows.
Speaker 1: It's a legendary symbol. Don't nuts gots crown appreciate you? Hey,
Speaker 1: who we got next? Alright? Coming up on the Cut
Speaker 1: to A podcast, We've got Chase Edmonds, or running back
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. He attended Fordham University. He's a
Speaker 1: native of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and he's six all time in
Speaker 1: n C double A FCS rushing history. Chase Edmonds on
Speaker 1: the Cut to It podcast, So, Chase, where are you from?
Speaker 1: And the play you consider your hometown Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, The
Speaker 1: real bird of Pennsylvania I hear, I hear a lot
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh or that it's Harrisburg. Okay, he said, Okay, shot,
Speaker 1: how far is it from Hershey Park? Twenty minutes? Okay?
Speaker 1: How far is it from the Amish country out there?
Speaker 1: Forty five minutes? That's cool. I just wanted to know.
Speaker 1: I'm I don't go there a lot. So I've been
Speaker 1: to Hershey Park. That's the closest I've been to you.
Speaker 1: Am You ain't missing You ain't missing line on Harrisburg
Speaker 1: or Hershey Park, not Harrisburg. You're not missing none. It's
Speaker 1: not nothing. Is that the real bird? Then? It's just
Speaker 1: it's the capitalist that's the real bird. That's where I
Speaker 1: hear a lot of people from Pittsburgh always talking about
Speaker 1: the Burg of p A. It's just that's what you know.
Speaker 1: You take pride to that growing up, I guess for
Speaker 1: whatever reason in state rivalry. Yeah. Yeah, when you think
Speaker 1: about athletes, the Burg is not what you're thinking about.
Speaker 1: Just uh, all right, man, how they're growing up in
Speaker 1: Harrisburg really shape who you are. Ah, talk to me
Speaker 1: a lot about sacrifice, bro, because uh, you know, growing up,
Speaker 1: the friends that I had, Um, it's not to say
Speaker 1: that you know, there was this and I was that,
Speaker 1: but it's just we wasn't really on the same path,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of life goals or whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be. So my father will always be on
Speaker 1: me real hard, just teach me about sacrifice and just
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, you got guys that want
Speaker 1: to do this and go party and ship like that.
Speaker 1: My dad talking about, now we gotta wake up seven
Speaker 1: thirty eight o'clock in the morning to do this workout.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't able to do some of else, some
Speaker 1: of that stuff growing up in high school, early ages.
Speaker 1: So they're really talking about sacrifice and just you know,
Speaker 1: sacrifice and what you want now for what you want later.
Speaker 1: And how did you when your dad was doing that?
Speaker 1: How did you receive that as a kid? Now, I
Speaker 1: know your answer maybe differently today because you have seen
Speaker 1: that you have reaped the benefit of your diligence your
Speaker 1: dad instilled, didn't you. He was diligent in teaching you
Speaker 1: the right way, and you were you were forcefully diligent
Speaker 1: and listening to him. Yeah, you really interact with that
Speaker 1: because I kind of get on my board a little
Speaker 1: bit sometimes, yeah, eyes a little bit, and I'll be
Speaker 1: like it was annoying his hell at first. Um, and
Speaker 1: then I feel like the more I did it, started
Speaker 1: doing the pattern, you know, started getting good habits. I
Speaker 1: just I just kind of fell in love with that. Bro.
Speaker 1: You started seeing results, you started seeing the payoff. Now
Speaker 1: you want to go back? Do you know? You want
Speaker 1: to go more? So we're doing three sets and I
Speaker 1: let's do forcess today. We got an our work up
Speaker 1: and I let's do an hour and a half work out.
Speaker 1: So it really just you know, obviously as a young kid,
Speaker 1: first it was annoying his hell. Man, just you wanted
Speaker 1: to be doing what your boys are doing. He was
Speaker 1: kind of the guy out cut out. But you said,
Speaker 1: as you grow older, man, you know grow wise. You know,
Speaker 1: you figure it out a little bit for yourself and
Speaker 1: you figure out what it takes to to become successful
Speaker 1: growing up. How big of a road did your parents
Speaker 1: play in your life? Oh? Man? The biggest I remember,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm I'm a small school guy, bro,
Speaker 1: So I didn't have none of these offers pouring in
Speaker 1: and coming out of high school. So I just remember
Speaker 1: the sacrifice that my dad would do just taking me
Speaker 1: to various camps. Uh, Like I wanted to the day
Speaker 1: the Little Army Navy National Combine. Now at the time,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was basically really just a plot
Speaker 1: to get some of my bread. They already knew it
Speaker 1: was to that that Bowl game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But my parents still to drop that cheese and give
Speaker 1: me a hotel to go out to San Antonio, give
Speaker 1: me the flight to go out, just give myself an
Speaker 1: opportunity to possibly get noticed. So stuff like that, Man,
Speaker 1: just I don't likely at all, you know, the sacrifice
Speaker 1: that they made with their time and their money and
Speaker 1: there after trying to help me out. I mean, you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of alluded to. But what what
Speaker 1: was your high school experience? I went to a public
Speaker 1: school East basically growing up Central Golf and East was
Speaker 1: only like a a thirty two game losing stream. I
Speaker 1: mean it was it was bro I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: winless seasons, and so most of most of the talented
Speaker 1: guys where your Harris were, they would go to the
Speaker 1: private school, uh Bishop mcdevit. That's what Shady went. And
Speaker 1: it was like for me, I kind of wanted to
Speaker 1: change the mold a little bit. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the guy that that tried to turn around to the
Speaker 1: east in that program. So I stayed put and I
Speaker 1: just I kind of put that way on my showers
Speaker 1: to do what I could do. And my freshman year,
Speaker 1: what we want, uh varsity want three games? Sophomore years
Speaker 1: you want like five? Was slow, very slow progress, drop
Speaker 1: back down to like four. Then it was the first
Speaker 1: twenty five years to make the playoffs. So I know,
Speaker 1: I came from my school was getting clapped, being clap bro.
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, yeah, it was. It was some bad days.
Speaker 1: But senior year we finally ended the drop like twenty years,
Speaker 1: twenty five years, and then it kind of paid off
Speaker 1: into the program kind of took some strides going forward.
Speaker 1: So and then you also mentioned not getting a lot
Speaker 1: of attention recruiting wise, how did that impact you while
Speaker 1: you're in high school? I remember them days, bro. I
Speaker 1: remember going into my senior year, we had pretty high,
Speaker 1: high prospects in my area, both running backs. When two
Speaker 1: finally jumping off and you started seeing guy being all
Speaker 1: these offers like, oh he got a six team off,
Speaker 1: you got a seven teeth offer. I'm here butt naked
Speaker 1: was zero. And then I finally remember I got my
Speaker 1: first one, and that was that was the time when
Speaker 1: I just got some great advice from my mother. She
Speaker 1: just you know, she told me talking about pay just
Speaker 1: how you know, everyone has their own course. And I
Speaker 1: remember that day like it was bro crown on my
Speaker 1: mom's lap like it was just today. Because I didn't
Speaker 1: have a Scholargehi ball and that's something that I always
Speaker 1: growing up. So it was just it was big time motivation. Man.
Speaker 1: I had ship with me going into college and I
Speaker 1: still carry that trip with me to the NFL to
Speaker 1: this day, just because that's kind of what made me
Speaker 1: who I And that's kind of really that breeding my
Speaker 1: work eutic. You know. So, so what lands you at
Speaker 1: ford them? I mean, you're in the Bronx, Ford in
Speaker 1: the Bronx. I don't I don't equate. I equate Bronx
Speaker 1: with basketball, skip to my louse, street ball, football, pizza,
Speaker 1: but not always what what what land you afford them?
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, I'm gonna be traveling at some point.
Speaker 1: You're about to Italian They got they got it's like
Speaker 1: little Italy over there. Uh damn, what was that, Arthur
Speaker 1: bro They got the best original Italian food you ever
Speaker 1: have in your life. Arthur Right New Braun said, pizza.
Speaker 1: I don't know Italian. You like a tow No, I'm
Speaker 1: from Cali. I like stages. I can't deal with the
Speaker 1: Mexican food. Yeah, why are you shaking your head and
Speaker 1: discuss you are kid? I can't deal with the Mexican food.
Speaker 1: But I'm not really I'm not big on the spices.
Speaker 1: Is a little too spicy from them. You can have
Speaker 1: a good street tacosh, I said, Street Street, don't come harsh.
Speaker 1: Shell Street is the little I would not use, I said,
Speaker 1: tortilla corn. I'm out the hardest off. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. And the Boogie Bronski. We had
Speaker 1: little heroes. You ever had that, the little heroes, little
Speaker 1: stairs on the corner. I'm like skinning your dark skin.
Speaker 1: Do you think I know the little hero is. You
Speaker 1: might have called it a gyro? Oh yeah, there you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, that was our street taco. That
Speaker 1: ain't even just say. I know that's not the same thing,
Speaker 1: but that's how I related. That was our street taco.
Speaker 1: It's not even ac it's not a taco. It's not
Speaker 1: a taco. You're right, it's cut off free. It's great
Speaker 1: it's great. But here's what I'm telling y'all. I'm telling y'all,
Speaker 1: I didn't get with the tacos. No thatly noted due
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Tao. Yeah no, bro, But can I get there?
Speaker 1: Can I get the pizza reference? Because he was in college.
Speaker 1: I know you had a late night snack. What was it?
Speaker 1: What was it? Yeah, you know, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of a good pieces. That's the white sauce, right, the
Speaker 1: white sauce. That's the white sauce. Right. No, it's not
Speaker 1: the white sauce. It's afraid o son. No white sauce
Speaker 1: is out Alfreido sauce. I'm talking about Sicilian pieces, the
Speaker 1: thick crust, the thick crust, Yes, that Sicilian pizza. You
Speaker 1: got a phone? How about your YouTube that when you
Speaker 1: go by the end of this show, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a laundry list of you. You're gonna be the first
Speaker 1: podcast episode afterwards. No, no, no, don't do that to me.
Speaker 1: Don't do that to me. I said, what the white sauce.
Speaker 1: Don't do that to me. Gracious man, boy, if I
Speaker 1: had Thursday night were Arizona. I'm bringing this back up
Speaker 1: when he is the player of the game. He's on
Speaker 1: the desk. I'm saying, hey, did you have that white
Speaker 1: sauce pizza. He's gonna be like, what Steve and Steve
Speaker 1: White sauce pizza. Alright, but let's go back disappointed. What
Speaker 1: later did you in for them? I had a high
Speaker 1: school coach, Gump May, and he uh, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got this. I got this old high school kid
Speaker 1: I used to coach. He's, uh, the o C at
Speaker 1: a school called for them. I'm like, Florida, They're not
Speaker 1: for them. For uh, that's what you expect from white
Speaker 1: sauce Florida. Boy, No, Florida games back. We can we
Speaker 1: can do that, he said, for them for them? Hey
Speaker 1: you original man. I like you boy man bro I said,
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard of that school before. He said, no, no,
Speaker 1: they they Division one Double A, you know, but they
Speaker 1: built on the program and at the time they had
Speaker 1: uh Joe Moorehead. So Joe Moorehead was my head coach,
Speaker 1: and he was my head coach, but two years he
Speaker 1: coached up at Pens State when they had sat Quantum Boys,
Speaker 1: and then now he's he's the o C origin. So
Speaker 1: he was bringing in that new spread style offense, and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I looked, I looked at the
Speaker 1: team a little bit kind of looked out. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: so here's my choices really between Fordham and Villanova and
Speaker 1: James Madison, and I slowly made my decision off of Okay,
Speaker 1: where am I gonna get on the field the earliest,
Speaker 1: because if I'm going SCS ball, I need I need
Speaker 1: enough time and enough film on just you know, preparing
Speaker 1: myself and really get the most exposures possible. So I
Speaker 1: felt like that Ford and Michael winning job over my
Speaker 1: freshman year, and um, that that's what I did. So
Speaker 1: that saw I landed up there. We have to take
Speaker 1: a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bills.
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for. A brother cut to a
Speaker 1: podcast dot com. How would you describe your time at
Speaker 1: for them? Looking back? You know, was it the best
Speaker 1: move for you? For me? Yeah? Yeah, I remember that
Speaker 1: just because I remember my mom. She wanted to be
Speaker 1: going going up the bad as hell, and I kind
Speaker 1: of just sat it down and I said, look, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this business decision. You know, I want to
Speaker 1: make to the NFL. I'm not worried about nothing else.
Speaker 1: And again I know that probably something crazy like okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to afford them, you're worried about the NFL.
Speaker 1: But that was my I felt like I could play earlier.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've got success there. So I took
Speaker 1: that leave the faith of my own on my own.
Speaker 1: I chose for them. I felt like it was the
Speaker 1: best time for me. But going there, man, I hated
Speaker 1: that there. In school, I ain't got a lot of
Speaker 1: you had had to do school work. The school work
Speaker 1: was crazy. Oh my gosh. How ye. I looked up
Speaker 1: for them, and I looked up bro as far as
Speaker 1: Ivy leaves right right, They're not a big name. But oh,
Speaker 1: you can't go on there. You can't go on there
Speaker 1: like some of these running backs tiptoeing through the books. Man,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a quarter of a million dollar scholarship,
Speaker 1: like they was charging sixty years grand a year, and
Speaker 1: you you out there stealing free education. I appreciate. Now,
Speaker 1: did you really pay attention on where you really just
Speaker 1: there as a as a as? I mean, I did
Speaker 1: my work, you know, I had to do my work.
Speaker 1: You know. It's crazy though, as much as I hated it,
Speaker 1: the class that I think I just learned the most
Speaker 1: about in terms of his life and respective perspective with theology, awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like because we were doing theology and philosophy, they would
Speaker 1: just ask you these these these very what's the word
Speaker 1: I'm looking for? They would ask you some some intellectual
Speaker 1: ask questions and and you really have to think think
Speaker 1: about your answer, why, why? Your why? Your answers is
Speaker 1: what it is, what your answers ought to be the
Speaker 1: owners that were ought to be. And that just opened
Speaker 1: my mind a lot. Like we was we had a lesson.
Speaker 1: We were trying to prove the existence of God and philosophy,
Speaker 1: and I really that's what that's one that I really
Speaker 1: respect because like you talk to people, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a Christian, you talk to people who are atheist, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever they are, And as a Christian, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's my duty too to spread the word of God
Speaker 1: and spread his ideas and show his love and how
Speaker 1: his grace helped me in my life. So when we
Speaker 1: really that lesson or just proving the existence of God,
Speaker 1: that's something that come on and then actually maybe start
Speaker 1: to appreciate that class. My daughter took that and they
Speaker 1: call apologetics. Apologetics. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing,
Speaker 1: talking about how God and be able to, um, make
Speaker 1: your point and make your point and some of that.
Speaker 1: But they're they're looking at it because, um, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, isn't that that it's a Catholic school, correct? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was. It was it was base, biblic clube base,
Speaker 1: or spiritual base. So it's teaching you how to maneuver
Speaker 1: through life and be able to see how God is
Speaker 1: in the existence of everything, whether you want that or not.
Speaker 1: The fact that an atheists can say they don't believe
Speaker 1: in God, which means that that's actually do that exists,
Speaker 1: that they don't believe in that's you know, that's literally
Speaker 1: what they were talking about. They were talking about life.
Speaker 1: I didn't go there though, actually don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: the conversation. I'm just I'm just I'm just like that, Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm just like that. I have a transition. You know.
Speaker 1: I love about this podcast. Sometimes it really gives me
Speaker 1: the show like my you know how clown around and
Speaker 1: yeah I am goofyfy, I'm goofy. Hey, what are you're surprised?
Speaker 1: I'm now I know you goofy. I knew I was
Speaker 1: gonna hear some ship. I just like, uh oh, that's
Speaker 1: what was your expectation. He's on the team with he
Speaker 1: was on the team with like Fish Gerald. So sometimes Larry, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's a big bro. So yeah, I'm with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: LARRYN told some stories. But sometimes it's cute with Larry
Speaker 1: that's all fool man. I got a story free Steve.
Speaker 1: What you don't think I know the story? This is
Speaker 1: pro bowl right, larrally telling me this story. Oh you
Speaker 1: know where I'm going with this one. Yeah, but Larry
Speaker 1: did left out some stuff just my podcast, so we
Speaker 1: can do it. Go ahead, we could do it. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the Pro Bow. Yeah, Larry told me. I
Speaker 1: don't I forget what years was in the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: but you and Larry was on the same team obviously,
Speaker 1: And he said, I guess y'all wasn't like the reds
Speaker 1: On or something like that, and they had subbed you out. No. See, look,
Speaker 1: he told me he got stubbed in or something like that.
Speaker 1: They wanted him to take some type of play. I
Speaker 1: can tell you. I'll let you tell your story and
Speaker 1: I can tell you and also, you know Larry, So
Speaker 1: when I tell it, I'm bringing it right back to you.
Speaker 1: Just just kind of go, yeah, I can see Larry
Speaker 1: doing that. Continue my brother proceed, he said. He said
Speaker 1: some player had got called in and they wanted Larry
Speaker 1: to take the place. So Larry had he subbed in
Speaker 1: for Steve and I did he scored a touchdown on
Speaker 1: that play, right if I'm not Yeah, okay, And and
Speaker 1: and we were just talking about, like you know, all competitors,
Speaker 1: and he said, Steve was what I said. Again, I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is true or not. He says.
Speaker 1: Steve looked at Larry, he said, motherfucker'd you ever take
Speaker 1: me out? And you still that bread off my off
Speaker 1: my table. This you know, No, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's all I know. That's all I heard. That's all
Speaker 1: I know. You ready for the story, and I'm ready
Speaker 1: for truth. I'm ready for the truth. That is truth
Speaker 1: in a dent? Do you want to hear the the
Speaker 1: thoul wou truth between a boxer. Fitz is a boxer.
Speaker 1: He's he's an alpha dog rock waller. Okay me you
Speaker 1: I'm the rock waller meaning the boxer to get you,
Speaker 1: but the rock wall and you tell yours got you? Okay.
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. So we had the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: and let me go backwards and set the stage. This
Speaker 1: is the year that he and Kwan they went to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and lost to the Steal. This is
Speaker 1: was after the Super Bowl. Now Eli Manning, Roddy White,
Speaker 1: Steve Smith, that Fitzgerald and Kum Bolder. Now all week,
Speaker 1: Roddy White and Steve Smith are running routes because the
Speaker 1: two wide receivers have to go from the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: deal with the loss, go back home, pack up, get
Speaker 1: their family and go to Hawaii. That takes a lot
Speaker 1: of time, logistics and the emotional roller coaster losing at
Speaker 1: the end with Santonio Holmes. So we get there. Not
Speaker 1: it's not fits or qus fault why they didn't get
Speaker 1: there on time. I would have been the same thing,
Speaker 1: and I get there. When I get there, they were
Speaker 1: voted the starters, not mine. I'm all right with that. However,
Speaker 1: I do feel some type of way that I'm damn practicing.
Speaker 1: All yeah, you're you're running. I'm running this brother coming
Speaker 1: here fresh leg right. So we go and so we
Speaker 1: had our quarters where we say, hey, you do this
Speaker 1: quarterback quarterball ball. So we're playing and at this time
Speaker 1: you can go back statistically, at this time, we need
Speaker 1: to move the ball down the field. So who what
Speaker 1: thoroughbred do they start feeding? Do you see any around? Yes,
Speaker 1: So they start feeding me the ball down there. Now
Speaker 1: as we're getting down there in the red zone, I
Speaker 1: guess about three or four passes in the row, but
Speaker 1: I get some yardage and some yat now unbeannounced to me.
Speaker 1: Guess who's on the sideline massaging the coach. Ain't don't
Speaker 1: be a jump ball. Don't me a jump ball? Have
Speaker 1: you heard that or seen that? On the sideline from
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer named does does that ring
Speaker 1: a bell, It rings a bell, thank you. Look it
Speaker 1: does that not ringing twenty twenty ring a bell with
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins out there on there in number eleven, sitting
Speaker 1: on the sideline while he's matriculating the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: So he cuts me out and I look at you. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with you, and I'm cool with Fits. But
Speaker 1: I look at you because me and Q we're not
Speaker 1: talking talking. I say, it's a run play to fits.
Speaker 1: You know it Fits tells me nah, I said, it's
Speaker 1: a pass play. Fits goes. Nah. I look at you,
Speaker 1: I said, yo. Q looks his head down down, he knows.
Speaker 1: Now the switch up. Here's the problem I had. Good friend,
Speaker 1: former teammate John b said light gas like me, Yo, Smitty,
Speaker 1: you're gonna let him. Oh, that's the wrong thing to
Speaker 1: do with you him. Do you like the plot? You
Speaker 1: know he's over. They're telling coat And I said, fist
Speaker 1: and so I look, ain't a lot of more mad.
Speaker 1: I'm not mad now. So I go and I said
Speaker 1: a story, I said, yo. And when I run, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: it's a pass play, na, Na, No, it's your run play. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you looked at me and my eye fits and
Speaker 1: you clearly lied to me. Man. So I go Sithlan
Speaker 1: and I look at him. I said, yo, Bro, you
Speaker 1: ever do something like that again? I said, I will
Speaker 1: blankety blank blankety blank black blank blank if you ever
Speaker 1: do that to me. I can see you at the mall.
Speaker 1: No you up, No, Steve, Bro, don't lie to me again.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. And that's why I went off
Speaker 1: on him. And and it wasn't more of it wasn't
Speaker 1: that he took something from it. It's in the manner
Speaker 1: of which he did it. While I'm out there on
Speaker 1: the field doing work. You over there besides of the coach,
Speaker 1: ain't don't be allowed. Don't be allowed. Bro, come on dog,
Speaker 1: let me let me do my work, man. And so
Speaker 1: that's why I kind of I I went off on him,
Speaker 1: but I felt there was justified because Bro, we all
Speaker 1: out here trying to eat, and it's it's obviously you're
Speaker 1: gonna be at a disadvantage of you out here doing work.
Speaker 1: You're out here, man, throw me a lot. And then
Speaker 1: they go out there and what did they do next play?
Speaker 1: They threw him a damn loud touchdown. So I felt
Speaker 1: some type of way about it, but I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: go and talk about behind around his behind his back.
Speaker 1: I went straight to him. Look the minute as I
Speaker 1: told him what would happen if he ever did that
Speaker 1: again to me? Man, we didn't have no problems after that.
Speaker 1: We were as as I say on this podcast, we're straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're straight. All right, let's keep it that way because
Speaker 1: if you do that to him again, consequences and recus No,
Speaker 1: I'm woop your asked. That's what happened. Now he didn't
Speaker 1: tell that part, did he exactly? So that and that's
Speaker 1: what happened that That's one of those stories where and
Speaker 1: I was how to fit for that man because he
Speaker 1: kind of plays he because he kind of played victim
Speaker 1: on that. And who was the wide receivers coach for
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles at that time? Would you like to
Speaker 1: know the head coach for the Houston Texans? Oh? Done,
Speaker 1: Dune done, Yep, that's all I'm gonna say. I had
Speaker 1: a number of interacts is with him. He was also
Speaker 1: the at the time. After that, he made an announcement
Speaker 1: with the receivers when we came to me, he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I know we all played for our different teams and
Speaker 1: because he knew I don't. I don't listen to nothing,
Speaker 1: he saying, but we just uh we go ahead and
Speaker 1: um um, we'll go ahead and make sure everybody's a
Speaker 1: pro bowler here and I'm over there, like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be coached by you. Oh
Speaker 1: speaking to another Pro Bowl. Hey, how about this one.
Speaker 1: I was at the Pro Bowl. It was me Donald
Speaker 1: Driver and I just remember Roy Williams and so we're
Speaker 1: up there and they had me at Z and had
Speaker 1: Roy at X and he said, hey, if y'all want
Speaker 1: to play different positions or play the boy? Roy said,
Speaker 1: Roy only play Z. Yeah, I said cool, because I
Speaker 1: play X boy. Roy. Because when you go to Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: you gotta learn other offenses and they dumb it down
Speaker 1: because you got literally learned their language on the two
Speaker 1: Tuesday to play on Sunday, and you gotta learn like uh,
Speaker 1: you know plays and you know if you come from
Speaker 1: a number system, worse system throw you off transition. So man,
Speaker 1: I remember that you're talking about the Proud be some
Speaker 1: funny stuff. Bro. Roy only plays Z. I'm like cool,
Speaker 1: I'll play X. So he literally only played at one position.
Speaker 1: He couldn't play in the slot. You know it's for
Speaker 1: they go for Why Roy only played Z. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I learned. I was like, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play everybody, Yeah, limit yourself down playing Z X F Y.
Speaker 1: Let's play all compositions. All right? So what was your
Speaker 1: old crap moment in the league. Damn my rookie year,
Speaker 1: second game of the season, we just playing Chicago and
Speaker 1: they had that damn terminator over that when they're k
Speaker 1: little Mac, little Mac defense. Yeah no, but now I
Speaker 1: was talking about the main terminator over there, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know you you're going there. You know you got
Speaker 1: the game plans. Okay, God, look every past play you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna you're gonna check. You're gonna check your pressure,
Speaker 1: not mean check your responsibility. And you are chipping fifty two.
Speaker 1: It don't matter where he is. And and uh, on
Speaker 1: the right, you had your fourth year show. This is
Speaker 1: this is this is when we was terrible twenty. This
Speaker 1: is my rookie team. Okay, so this is so your
Speaker 1: receiver's coach, your offense coordinator, which you used to be
Speaker 1: my receiver's coach, Mike McCoy, Yeah, Mike McCoy that offense.
Speaker 1: Broy Hey, hey he always he always doing ship like Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get one more hash yep, he always doing
Speaker 1: with the finger broke. Hey he played that long Beach
Speaker 1: State with Troy, with Trel David did. Yeah, don't get
Speaker 1: a twist to hear game, banger man. Okay, okays, wrong,
Speaker 1: bro text you are you are? You're gonna get rolled
Speaker 1: up on my football days are a long ron, But
Speaker 1: I know what some of that means. No, I just
Speaker 1: met you now, Uh yeah, So you had Mike McCoy.
Speaker 1: Who did you Who you had Mike McCoy, Bristo, yeah,
Speaker 1: buck yeah, yeah, bucket left, bucket left, bucket love. He
Speaker 1: just came your head coach. Uh yeah, he was my
Speaker 1: defense coordinator, Caroline Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think who else do we let you right to know?
Speaker 1: And that's uh, I had a whole bunch. Y'all have
Speaker 1: Alice de decordinator. Yeah, who's your special who's your special?
Speaker 1: Team's coach? Rogers? Jeff Rogers, he's still there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know Jeff. I like Jeff a smartass coach. He's really smart.
Speaker 1: So so they wanted you to chip fifty two. They
Speaker 1: wanted me to chip fifty two, Bro, great great game player.
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, and it's going to get bad now.
Speaker 1: Would didn't get terrible, But it was just I tried
Speaker 1: to chip that man, Bro. And it was kind of
Speaker 1: like explained as the chip like when you lined up
Speaker 1: with what was tried? Like, are you saying like I
Speaker 1: tried to cook a burger. I's your attempt on try.
Speaker 1: I gave food, I gave full effort. I put my all,
Speaker 1: I'll put my all. I'll try to chip him right
Speaker 1: by his hip, you know, the hip go go. And
Speaker 1: he took and he was the right tackle, and he
Speaker 1: took that disrespectful. He took that disrespectful. That's kind of
Speaker 1: hitting him low. That's not but no, but Steve, but Steve,
Speaker 1: that's not hitting him. I respect thee write a five nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he only Well, you can tell me whatever you want
Speaker 1: to tell me. Khalil mcnim take it that way, did it?
Speaker 1: Kalil back a't take it that way. Khalil was like
Speaker 1: a long arm and the right tackle right, so he
Speaker 1: had he had his left r free bro his back
Speaker 1: hand his back hand in hand was free. I tried
Speaker 1: to I tried to get up under like he didn't
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, red area, and he
Speaker 1: just man, it happened so fast. He threw at the club.
Speaker 1: I mean, like like a little net. Just just flick
Speaker 1: you off. I told, I told my friends after the game.
Speaker 1: But I said, Bro, that was shot being I ever
Speaker 1: came in contact with. And see how I could tell
Speaker 1: by you not in a negative way. After he flicks
Speaker 1: you after the game, you want to make sure apologize
Speaker 1: to kind of explain where you're coming. Bro, I ain't
Speaker 1: doing that football, Yeah, but you just do money do
Speaker 1: my eyes at the club? You're right? So okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask what you thought about it though. Did you
Speaker 1: attempt to chip him anymore during the game? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had that work out. It works a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit, look and then the next and then
Speaker 1: we don't have to run. But when you got the
Speaker 1: chance to run the ball, he amped it up, didn't he? Yeah? Him?
Speaker 1: And uh what was it? Boy, Keem Keem Higgs bigger Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a that was a nasty front from fourth.
Speaker 1: I think it's about that time. Just take a little
Speaker 1: breatherd do. Let's get down to do it. Hey, Gerard,
Speaker 1: why did you get that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh? Yes,
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Speaker 1: where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys
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Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. Let me ask you this because I
Speaker 1: was looking at your stats, Broness, remarkable, So you got
Speaker 1: to explain this to me. Freshman year and for them
Speaker 1: at for them, you get nine hundred yards average, hundred
Speaker 1: thirty one yards a game. Sophomore year seventeen oh five,
Speaker 1: average goes up through hundred thirty seven yards. Junior year
Speaker 1: a hundred eight, hundred fifty eight yards average, a hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty three here's and then you had a nine eight.
Speaker 1: He had three hundred fifty nine yards in one game,
Speaker 1: and then against le High three hundred forty seven yards. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. Now, some people will say, oh, look
Speaker 1: at the look at the competitions, bro, I didn't play
Speaker 1: some bad teams. I ain't never had three d in
Speaker 1: one yards are yards fifth in n C double A
Speaker 1: FCS history in correct rushing yards, she's been number one, brother. Oh,
Speaker 1: number one, what still should have been number one all time?
Speaker 1: Still mad about that that senior year. Yeah, senior year.
Speaker 1: I had an ankle injury Week one, and my my dumbass,
Speaker 1: I was I was proudeful. I was chasing that record
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you know they was talking about
Speaker 1: you know, you need to just sit out. You sit
Speaker 1: out one week, We're ready to go, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I can play, you know, I can play and not
Speaker 1: rehurt myself. And uh ended up reinjuring my ankle and
Speaker 1: it's like the knicks and it was just it was
Speaker 1: just down here. After that. He was playing from behind
Speaker 1: all the time, all the time. Man, your numbers are impressive.
Speaker 1: I just love everything about it. But let's go through.
Speaker 1: I think it's also interesting your freshman year, you average
Speaker 1: are hunting thirty one yards per game. You basically nainety
Speaker 1: eight yards from two thousand yards. Right. However, you also
Speaker 1: become a father. Take me through that process of trying
Speaker 1: to have some success to get to the NFL, but
Speaker 1: also now becoming a dad. How did you balance becoming
Speaker 1: a father and still staying on the path and the
Speaker 1: journey of trying to or attempting to become an NFL
Speaker 1: football player. Uh well, first I had a great support system.
Speaker 1: That's that's the first thing. You know, my obviously my paying,
Speaker 1: my mom, my dad, but really Coach Moorehead, I mean
Speaker 1: he fully understood man. He let me do some things
Speaker 1: we were like, whether it was you know, we had
Speaker 1: a game, maybe a p A or something like that,
Speaker 1: the team of ride back. I still be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, stay at night with Avery and then I
Speaker 1: just get get a ride back to back back to school.
Speaker 1: So I had a great support ships and that really
Speaker 1: understood my my whole process and kind of where everything
Speaker 1: was at and um. But my daughter did for me
Speaker 1: was just amplified everything and amplified my motivation. I was
Speaker 1: already already thought I was in grond mood. But when
Speaker 1: I had Avery and a little girl, I said, I
Speaker 1: gotta make it. You know, it ain't there's no more.
Speaker 1: Oh if this if now, I I gotta make it.
Speaker 1: You know. Now I got somebody depending on me. I
Speaker 1: gotta put food on the table for at such an
Speaker 1: early age. So it just amplified everything for me, Stephen.
Speaker 1: As I got older, you know, I started to learn
Speaker 1: how to really balanced it, how to be able to
Speaker 1: find time to because you know, I mean I was
Speaker 1: doing summer school. I was always at for them, trying
Speaker 1: to graduate early, trying to really sell my stuff where
Speaker 1: I felt like it could put myself in the best
Speaker 1: position once I hit my senior year to make it
Speaker 1: to the NFL and just have my success going into
Speaker 1: the NFL high it's possible. I mean it was hard, man,
Speaker 1: it as hard I had. I had a lot of
Speaker 1: times where I couldn't see my daughter, a lot of
Speaker 1: times just you know, for a lot of outside circumstances
Speaker 1: where it was the communication was kind of you know,
Speaker 1: not to where it were young parents, very young parents,
Speaker 1: eighteen what emotions I was my oldest is broke my
Speaker 1: older Okay, so how old you when you had your
Speaker 1: old young? Yeah? Also, man, you know we me and
Speaker 1: my wife have four kids, got you we we we
Speaker 1: we've been together twenty some years. So we've had some
Speaker 1: highs and lows and living life and trying to parent.
Speaker 1: You know what this thing is, trying to trying to
Speaker 1: being a kid and a parent and trying to parent
Speaker 1: a kid when you're a kid at the same time.
Speaker 1: How do you figure all that out? You don't you
Speaker 1: don't you don't don't. We We hate this, We hate
Speaker 1: it said this way, but sometimes we said, man with Peyton,
Speaker 1: here's the guinea pig. We're figuring it out, especially especially
Speaker 1: if you know, if you don't know how without having
Speaker 1: other friends, and also the way your dad parent you,
Speaker 1: how are you maneuvering through still being fathered by your
Speaker 1: own father and now your father? Yeah, WHOA, I know
Speaker 1: that I appreciate it was a great and that was
Speaker 1: a great question. It was a great question in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, like parenting is parented right, but correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Steve, you probably parented your son
Speaker 1: a little differently than your parent to your daughter. No,
Speaker 1: m depends on the day, something like here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm screwed it up with all of them. And I
Speaker 1: think depending on the day is very much an acceptable
Speaker 1: answer because you you can't do it the same everything
Speaker 1: that you you you don't even know why you are
Speaker 1: irritated that day. Here's the here's the one that throws
Speaker 1: you off. Man, there's just some days I want to
Speaker 1: remove the daddy name plate. H Like, Matt, here's what
Speaker 1: I used to love, Here's here's what I mean. By
Speaker 1: re moved the daddy name play. One time Peyton was
Speaker 1: in my car, picked him up from a birthday party
Speaker 1: and there was another player's birthday, so they had a
Speaker 1: football cake. He said, Daddy, I'm not feeling too good. Well,
Speaker 1: let me roll down. Want to get you some fresh
Speaker 1: air down the window to do. Threw up on the
Speaker 1: passenger seat and guests was stopped to throw up from
Speaker 1: hitting the floor. The the what does that even called?
Speaker 1: In the back seat the pouch. The pouch caught all
Speaker 1: the throw up. I had to clean out my car
Speaker 1: in the power The pouch was full. I guess what
Speaker 1: color the throw it was football green throw up or
Speaker 1: at two in the morning, daddy, I don't feel good,
Speaker 1: and my wife patched me, like hey, yo yo yo, turn,
Speaker 1: I don't feel good. One time my daughter was like,
Speaker 1: I'm like go to the bathroom and she couldn't. So
Speaker 1: I had to catch the throw up in the blanket.
Speaker 1: You know that throw throw throw blanket that everybody has
Speaker 1: on the couch. Yeah, we don't have like four or
Speaker 1: five of See this again, that's my goal to now
Speaker 1: if you leave it up your dad or that that
Speaker 1: outfit this again, I'm not washing it I'm not staying again.
Speaker 1: I'm going that thing away. I don't care if you're
Speaker 1: a good parent, bad parents, young parents, old parents. Man,
Speaker 1: each kid, and you'll learn each kid has their own
Speaker 1: personality and they do not adhere to the convenience of you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's raining outside. Cool, I want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Oh you're sick today. I got a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: Oh I got a broken leg, that's cool. I want
Speaker 1: to learn how to rid my bike. None preference your
Speaker 1: broken leg and stitches and cast on me. Nothing on
Speaker 1: my bike ride. So I got a story, man, that's
Speaker 1: that's funny. I was. I had Avery at the museum
Speaker 1: talking about she didn't feel good. I said, baby, in
Speaker 1: the bathroom right around the corner. We're gonna get you
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. We're gonna be all good. She just stopped.
Speaker 1: She stopped walking. Oh, her body shut down. Down. Everything
Speaker 1: is this little motion started throwing up everywhere. Bro, And
Speaker 1: I'm here like, man, what the hell do I do
Speaker 1: right now? I got people staring at me. Did you
Speaker 1: do like most people do when they when they walk
Speaker 1: the animals and they poop, you just you just act
Speaker 1: like it didn't happen, Like get out of that one. Look,
Speaker 1: I started looking left and right. I had to worker
Speaker 1: staring and I'm like, can I get some towels? Can
Speaker 1: I get like? You see she throwing up? So I
Speaker 1: need sometimes. So I got some towels, you know, cleaned
Speaker 1: her up. And the funny thing is to go to
Speaker 1: the bout to be clean her up. She talking about
Speaker 1: she want to stay now she feels better. Bro, we
Speaker 1: want to und with her breasts thinking first and you
Speaker 1: got a holder, right, because now she wanted now, daddy
Speaker 1: got a holder. Yeah, and now you to throw up? Parents?
Speaker 1: Is that that throw up there right there? Yeah? We
Speaker 1: got right about it there. M. So you're going into
Speaker 1: your fourth year now with the Arizona Cardinals. So what
Speaker 1: can we expect out of you? Man? How about this? What?
Speaker 1: Because I can see him, he's trying to I'm trying
Speaker 1: to kind of say that, right, what would you like
Speaker 1: to happen happen in your fourth year? The Pine of Sky,
Speaker 1: the Poet of the Sky. Pro Bowl Steve, And I
Speaker 1: know that I know that sounds so so just do
Speaker 1: a lot of people. That's what That's what it's me.
Speaker 1: That's good Pro Bowl, Probow Steve. People to watch him
Speaker 1: right ten Super Bowl. Come on, bro, you could be
Speaker 1: on a good team and somebody dropping past and that's
Speaker 1: the end of your your season. So, okay, pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: But what is making a Pro Bow mean as well?
Speaker 1: What is that? What does that role? What? What does
Speaker 1: your role do? Does it increase decrease? You're talking about
Speaker 1: special my role expence. Obviously, know my role is going
Speaker 1: to expand that's one thing I think that I'm pretty confident.
Speaker 1: But are you preparing for your role to expand a
Speaker 1: lot of routes, A lot of routes. That means that
Speaker 1: that offense is that that air air rage at a
Speaker 1: lot of being well, not necessarily are raight, but just
Speaker 1: being more in tune with all of football run catching it.
Speaker 1: So show I played forty four percent of the snaps
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, humble, Okay, that's whatever solid you know
Speaker 1: I was? I was? That was you know, I had
Speaker 1: a role. That's what that was to me. Okay, third
Speaker 1: down back, a little bit of carrious first and second out,
Speaker 1: but I was mainly the receiver specialist. Guys, so like
Speaker 1: if we didn't hurry up, if he was in twenty
Speaker 1: percent or something like that, to go straight to the slot.
Speaker 1: You know, I go straight to the slot or yeah,
Speaker 1: so boys, I'm trying. I'm trying to do with the
Speaker 1: big boys. Yeah, utes, I'm running real routes, running on
Speaker 1: real routes. I run real routes. Work with I work
Speaker 1: with the reves. Yes, I run real routes. So let
Speaker 1: me actually this, Can you run an efficient? Lookie though
Speaker 1: in efficient? Use different terminology, y'all call it it. Y'll
Speaker 1: call it snag or look and go. That's when you
Speaker 1: got the you know, if he's inside, you take him
Speaker 1: dart back out. If he's outside, across his face. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can run real routes. I never heard lukie though.
Speaker 1: That's an old school West West Coast. Yeah, okay, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: our last segment it's called deep three chase, and so
Speaker 1: basically the three questions that just take us to a
Speaker 1: deeper level of understanding you, beyond who you are as
Speaker 1: a football player, beyond your jersey underneath the shoulder pass.
Speaker 1: So smitty ahead, all right, what's been the hardest thing
Speaker 1: about being a dad? And what's been the most rewarding
Speaker 1: thing about being a dad? The most reworded thing, by
Speaker 1: far is just the enjoyment and really the process seeing
Speaker 1: your daughter or your son grow up and then the
Speaker 1: personality start to grow. Like I remember having a conversation
Speaker 1: with every she's six years old now, man, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's crazy how smart they are, how much things they
Speaker 1: pick up on her mom had sent me a video
Speaker 1: a few days ago of every singing the song I
Speaker 1: put it on in the shower, you know, like and
Speaker 1: just and seeing stuff like that. Man, seeing your influence
Speaker 1: on your child is Uh, it's such a rewarding and
Speaker 1: great feeling. The most the hardest thing is just I
Speaker 1: don't know, like literally, I don't know. I've been learning
Speaker 1: on the go because I started at such a young parent,
Speaker 1: so just just learning through my failures of how to
Speaker 1: raise my daughter, how to you know, bring I want
Speaker 1: to really bring her up because times are changing, man,
Speaker 1: Like you see the younger kid generation and what they know, well,
Speaker 1: how they act. I'm just trying to raise my daughter up.
Speaker 1: And there is no perfect environment. But I'm trying to
Speaker 1: raise my daughter up as best of a perfect environment
Speaker 1: as I can. Were. Um, I'm protecting her, but I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm also trying to obviously didn't get to that agent,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to show her what life really is
Speaker 1: you know, like you ever see those kids man, that
Speaker 1: just been protected their whole life and then they get
Speaker 1: to college or something like that, they get to high
Speaker 1: school where they finally get some freedom and they just
Speaker 1: go off the rails possibly, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that that that's probably the hardest challenge
Speaker 1: to me. All Right, So if we as a teammate
Speaker 1: of yours to describe you in three words, what do
Speaker 1: you think they would say? They're gonna say goofy so
Speaker 1: say loyal and the third ambitious? What experience that you've
Speaker 1: had so far in your young life that you wish
Speaker 1: you can do over to perfect that experience? Damn, that's
Speaker 1: a good question, Steve, Thank you appreciate it. I'm patis
Speaker 1: from back at you what experience? Because I live over
Speaker 1: so I can perfect that experience, not see, not do
Speaker 1: over or like, but to perfect it because a lot
Speaker 1: of times it's it's it's a number of things though
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't do that, but to perfect it, man,
Speaker 1: I'd probably say we're on the East coast time over here.
Speaker 1: So just like you know, I know, bro, I know
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a hard and I'm really, I'm
Speaker 1: really trying to give you a good I don't want
Speaker 1: to get you know. No, bs, here's the thing, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. It's your life right and over.
Speaker 1: I just said. I didn't say do over like I
Speaker 1: would do it over and then not happen. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about to perfect right then. It's just my craft right now.
Speaker 1: Probably know when I'm out there in football that that
Speaker 1: rep where you might not have rent the route as
Speaker 1: well as you want to do it over, so you
Speaker 1: obviously do it over. It's it's probably always gonna be
Speaker 1: with my craft and football, because when I get on
Speaker 1: that field, man, and we're getting a zone, we start working.
Speaker 1: It don't matter how hot it is. You know, you
Speaker 1: want to do everything perfect. You know, like what uh like?
Speaker 1: The epitome of what I'm talking about is the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy game against Monday Night. And while I had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the play, me Kristen Kirk and my
Speaker 1: boy Transuer I field, we was out here March April
Speaker 1: busting our ass and I always remember were always ending
Speaker 1: on like a deep post goal ball and you know
Speaker 1: where they throw that. They throw that thing out there
Speaker 1: and you gotta go get it. Sometimes you get a
Speaker 1: fingertip catch. Sometimes you get a fingertip drop. And what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I say do over like to
Speaker 1: perfect it. When Kurt caught that a dr post bomber
Speaker 1: and seven yard post bomber, he caught that thing by
Speaker 1: his fingertips and you see the picture and it's you know,
Speaker 1: preparation breeds success. Well, I think was the caph and
Speaker 1: he said, man, and that that's just what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get at in terms of just perfecting my craft,
Speaker 1: like all those long and nobody saw those long hours
Speaker 1: in the in the heat and the sun. Nobody saw
Speaker 1: the drops that we had trying to do that post ball.
Speaker 1: But on Monday night when the lights was brightest, you know,
Speaker 1: Kurt Wayne got that thing and it paid off. Well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, I I it took
Speaker 1: me a long time to really you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people belay practice makes perfect right, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Practice makes improvement. Yeah, visit the progress and you have
Speaker 1: to improve. But why I love practice makes improvement is
Speaker 1: because improvement means that you are you have the ability
Speaker 1: and willingness to look yourself in the mirror and say
Speaker 1: you have flaws and defects. I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't want to admit those flaws, and I think
Speaker 1: that was one of the things I always knew about myself.
Speaker 1: Always knew my defects all these knew the areas in
Speaker 1: which in my route running that I struggle with, and
Speaker 1: always worked on that. Because if your opponent knows your
Speaker 1: defects and your and your faults and you don't, you're
Speaker 1: going into you You're going into a situation handicapped. You're
Speaker 1: going in there and you think you have you know,
Speaker 1: you think you have six knives. But if your left
Speaker 1: hand is your weakest and you don't work on it,
Speaker 1: and your opponent knows it, and you only got really
Speaker 1: three knives because all the ones that you can reach
Speaker 1: on your right side, which is a dominant side, and
Speaker 1: the left side you can't because you're fumbling a bumbler.
Speaker 1: So that's why practice makes improvement. I'm gonna keep that quote.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Just tag me alright, hey man, this was
Speaker 1: this is a this is a great opportunity, man, It
Speaker 1: was really this was fun. Really enjoyed you taking the
Speaker 1: time out of your day, man, and uh just rapping
Speaker 1: with the shooting a breeze man. It's uh, it's exciting
Speaker 1: to watch your play. It's exciting to watch the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: What you guys gonna do with obviously all those fantastic
Speaker 1: players you got, and then also too, man, what you
Speaker 1: bringing to the table. So I had I had to enjoy.
Speaker 1: I enjoy doing the research about you before you became
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal. I appreciate that he gave real sense
Speaker 1: of what you're capable of as an as an NFL player.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your see for real, I prey share y'are
Speaker 1: having me, man, this is a when they hit me
Speaker 1: with this opportunity, said Steve Smith. I said, I'm on it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Talk to you, man, chat out with you.
Speaker 1: You a legend, bro, and uh, obviously just obviously being
Speaker 1: a short ass guy like myself and seeing what you
Speaker 1: did in your career and bold out being a dog
Speaker 1: that you are. I really do appreciate this opportunity. You
Speaker 1: are a unique person. You are well worth it. You
Speaker 1: are competent and most of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith, Singior.
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