WEBVTT - Chase Edmonds 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.920 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, Let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.040 am about it? Then we're about to let you know. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:42.800 It's all Sorry, fellas, what up backstage? Joe? What's going on? 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.199 Do Let's cut right into this. So I want to 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:50.720 have a debate discussion me and my boys and on 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:55.280 group chat. The other day, as Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.480 and Tim Duncan were inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.840 we start to have in this this text discussion around 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.760 who's a legend and who's an icon. Some people are 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.280 saying Kobe Bryant is an icon. I say Tim Duncan 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:10.319 is a nicon right, one of the best power forwards 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.800 of all time. And this isn't a necessarily a discussion 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.679 about just basketball, but what makes a person a legend, 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.920 what makes a person nicon, whether that's sports, whether that's whatever, 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.360 But what's the difference between the two. And I don't 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.480 think that there's a right and wrong answer. It was 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.680 just a lot of good dialogue. So I wanted to 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:32.560 ask my two guys, who have extensive history in sports, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.840 what's a legend and what's an icon? It's hard to 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.880 really we utilize that word so much. And what's funny 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.440 is you know, you you know, I always like to 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.680 I like to look up words, the definition of the word. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.560 Which definition got you got dialed up? Right now? Icon? Okay, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:04.080 less commonly mhm mhm, s it bro, I said. Another 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:08.960 one is a graphic symbol on a computer display screen. Anyway, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:13.360 we're gonna have to ask Siri. That ain't helping me. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.680 When I think sports, I always think, I go to 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:25.160 the word legendary. I don't know if I've used the 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:30.240 word icon from a sports perspective, but more like from 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:35.840 an entertainer or a musician perspective for me. So, like, 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.560 you know, if you think about what singing icons or 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.079 like like jay Z I call icon, I would say 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.239 he's an icon. I don't say legendary, you know, but 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.520 you know, you look at Michael Jordan's and I, well, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.919 you know that I think the group, you know, top 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.160 of the line is he's a legendary, he's not iconic, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.880 And you brought up Kobe, so I filled this back. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.840 Was was Kobe legendary while he was dunking on folks? 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.040 And because he's moved on, is now the iconic? So 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.160 people that have left us and gone to another place? 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.560 I think we use the word icon much more than 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:22.360 we do legendary. It almost seems as if do you 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.960 have to earn being a legend? Yeah? You know what 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.800 do we dub people icons and you have to earn legendary? 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:37.840 It is it transitional? So yeah, that's what's So here's 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.000 the here's the question that started off. So we reset 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.760 it even though we don't what do we deem it 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:52.080 more prestigious being an icon or a legend? Because here's where, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.800 here's where I go, Here's where I go. I don't 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.360 know if Joe was going here or not. But you 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.280 can be a legend and no one knows who you are, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.880 right Like they're people we probably know from back home 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.840 that man, they were a legend, but maybe they didn't, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.280 maybe they didn't make it. Here's what I'm asking and 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.640 this little this group of three out of the two, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:16.560 is legend one icon two? Or is icon one and legend? 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.120 I put icon higher than the legend r I would say, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.800 I would say, I'll read what legend is coming down 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:37.200 from the past popular regarding as historical, A person or 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:44.160 thing that inspires that's legend. So again, based off those two, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.520 what do you deem or what do you say if 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:55.400 we're trying to summarize the chicken or the egg? You know, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.599 what do we believe is more valuable to be a legend? 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.240 Where a person or thing that inspires you coming down 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:12.200 from the past or always saying icon, I think an 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.600 icon is almost transcendent, right, Like like you mentioned jay 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:20.680 Z is an icon in rap. Everyone everyone can Everyone 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.479 has not established a career or reached the heights that 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.360 the jay Z has, right, but you can be a 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.839 legend in rap, right like we've we we talked to 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.239 Mr Cheeks right like he is he is a legend. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.360 What what he did with Lost Boys being on Uptown records, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.640 He is a legend. It may not be an icon 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:42.039 and rap. I don't really know which one Kobe is. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:48.080 I just know that he was someone. Whether you like 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.400 them or not, he may impact on the game. Right 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.280 when you're talking about when you talk about the Los 0:05:54.279 --> 0:06:00.640 Angeles Lakers and you have the Walton, you have the 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:14.640 Korean Magic. Now where's Kobe? I feel whatever area you consider, 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.160 if legend is one the icons tour icons want and 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.120 legendars too, that it seems like it's a case by 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.640 case basis. It is. But here's what I but here's 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.919 what we do get confused and and I agree to, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:40.760 is sometimes we are saying a good player is legendary, 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.880 and then you go and look up where they are 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:50.120 on the stats, and they like, can you can you 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.360 be legendary? Can you be legendary? And one in one 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.279 field and maybe not another? Like you may not have 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.280 been a good here's what the NFL player, but you 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.560 were legendary in college or well here's what I think 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:07.159 what happens. I think your player in your region, you 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.480 have a different status when it comes to nationally. Yeah, 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:18.560 like I agree, I agree, you know, like, um, I 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:23.120 wouldn't say Alan Irison is iconic. I would say, but 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.000 he a damn great legend right of the little guys 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:33.400 he inspired? Right, Um, he was popular even at his age. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:39.520 He's still popular to some degree. But if you take 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.040 Alan Irison, you compare him to some of the other 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:49.840 point guards and shooting guards in the NBA. You know, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.880 I think it becomes a very heated argument. Again, it's no, 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.280 it's no one size fits so. So, I mean, we 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.240 could debate about this all day, but I just thought 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.640 it was good because they're what they're our conversation in 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.760 that group chat with the same conversation we just had. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.600 There is no right or wrong answer. It can be 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.560 there's iconic imagery. There can be one day, or you 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.400 can be an icon the next. It just depends was 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.679 in that Oh well, I know one icon that he knows. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:29.480 It's a legendary symbol. Don't nuts gots crown appreciate you? Hey, 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.120 who we got next? Alright? Coming up on the Cut 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.200 to A podcast, We've got Chase Edmonds, or running back 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.120 for the Arizona Cardinals. He attended Fordham University. He's a 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.400 native of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and he's six all time in 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.640 n C double A FCS rushing history. Chase Edmonds on 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:59.400 the Cut to It podcast, So, Chase, where are you from? 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:05.360 And the play you consider your hometown Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, The 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.520 real bird of Pennsylvania I hear, I hear a lot 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:15.720 of Pittsburgh or that it's Harrisburg. Okay, he said, Okay, shot, 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:22.400 how far is it from Hershey Park? Twenty minutes? Okay? 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.240 How far is it from the Amish country out there? 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.679 Forty five minutes? That's cool. I just wanted to know. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.560 I'm I don't go there a lot. So I've been 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.959 to Hershey Park. That's the closest I've been to you. 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.720 Am You ain't missing You ain't missing line on Harrisburg 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:41.440 or Hershey Park, not Harrisburg. You're not missing none. It's 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.880 not nothing. Is that the real bird? Then? It's just 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.880 it's the capitalist that's the real bird. That's where I 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.040 hear a lot of people from Pittsburgh always talking about 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.040 the Burg of p A. It's just that's what you know. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.360 You take pride to that growing up, I guess for 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:01.160 whatever reason in state rivalry. Yeah. Yeah, when you think 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.920 about athletes, the Burg is not what you're thinking about. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:15.079 Just uh, all right, man, how they're growing up in 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:21.079 Harrisburg really shape who you are. Ah, talk to me 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:25.240 a lot about sacrifice, bro, because uh, you know, growing up, 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.080 the friends that I had, Um, it's not to say 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.120 that you know, there was this and I was that, 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.280 but it's just we wasn't really on the same path, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.360 you know, in terms of life goals or whatever the 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.199 case may be. So my father will always be on 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.280 me real hard, just teach me about sacrifice and just 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.800 in terms of you know, you got guys that want 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.280 to do this and go party and ship like that. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.079 My dad talking about, now we gotta wake up seven 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.760 thirty eight o'clock in the morning to do this workout. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.400 So I wasn't able to do some of else, some 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.480 of that stuff growing up in high school, early ages. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.800 So they're really talking about sacrifice and just you know, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.920 sacrifice and what you want now for what you want later. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.880 And how did you when your dad was doing that? 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.640 How did you receive that as a kid? Now, I 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.560 know your answer maybe differently today because you have seen 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:14.199 that you have reaped the benefit of your diligence your 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.120 dad instilled, didn't you. He was diligent in teaching you 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.720 the right way, and you were you were forcefully diligent 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:25.480 and listening to him. Yeah, you really interact with that 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.280 because I kind of get on my board a little 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.320 bit sometimes, yeah, eyes a little bit, and I'll be 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:36.760 like it was annoying his hell at first. Um, and 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.600 then I feel like the more I did it, started 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.040 doing the pattern, you know, started getting good habits. I 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:44.880 just I just kind of fell in love with that. Bro. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.199 You started seeing results, you started seeing the payoff. Now 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.559 you want to go back? Do you know? You want 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.280 to go more? So we're doing three sets and I 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.720 let's do forcess today. We got an our work up 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.079 and I let's do an hour and a half work out. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.360 So it really just you know, obviously as a young kid, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.880 first it was annoying his hell. Man, just you wanted 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.199 to be doing what your boys are doing. He was 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.000 kind of the guy out cut out. But you said, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.120 as you grow older, man, you know grow wise. You know, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.360 you figure it out a little bit for yourself and 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.679 you figure out what it takes to to become successful 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:20.440 growing up. How big of a road did your parents 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:25.120 play in your life? Oh? Man? The biggest I remember, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.160 because you know, I'm I'm a small school guy, bro, 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.280 So I didn't have none of these offers pouring in 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:31.800 and coming out of high school. So I just remember 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.080 the sacrifice that my dad would do just taking me 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.000 to various camps. Uh, Like I wanted to the day 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.720 the Little Army Navy National Combine. Now at the time, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.640 I didn't know that was basically really just a plot 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.160 to get some of my bread. They already knew it 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.559 was to that that Bowl game, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.320 But my parents still to drop that cheese and give 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.480 me a hotel to go out to San Antonio, give 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.240 me the flight to go out, just give myself an 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.160 opportunity to possibly get noticed. So stuff like that, Man, 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.319 just I don't likely at all, you know, the sacrifice 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:06.880 that they made with their time and their money and 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.120 there after trying to help me out. I mean, you 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.199 kind of you kind of alluded to. But what what 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.160 was your high school experience? I went to a public 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.440 school East basically growing up Central Golf and East was 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.120 only like a a thirty two game losing stream. I 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.040 mean it was it was bro I'm talking about like 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.600 winless seasons, and so most of most of the talented 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.400 guys where your Harris were, they would go to the 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.839 private school, uh Bishop mcdevit. That's what Shady went. And 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.640 it was like for me, I kind of wanted to 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.839 change the mold a little bit. I wanted to be 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.640 the guy that that tried to turn around to the 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.520 east in that program. So I stayed put and I 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.160 just I kind of put that way on my showers 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.880 to do what I could do. And my freshman year, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.520 what we want, uh varsity want three games? Sophomore years 0:13:53.520 --> 0:14:00.720 you want like five? Was slow, very slow progress, drop 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.080 back down to like four. Then it was the first 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:08.679 twenty five years to make the playoffs. So I know, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.840 I came from my school was getting clapped, being clap bro. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.920 I mean, bro, yeah, it was. It was some bad days. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.320 But senior year we finally ended the drop like twenty years, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.760 twenty five years, and then it kind of paid off 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.600 into the program kind of took some strides going forward. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.000 So and then you also mentioned not getting a lot 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.120 of attention recruiting wise, how did that impact you while 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.720 you're in high school? I remember them days, bro. I 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.680 remember going into my senior year, we had pretty high, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.240 high prospects in my area, both running backs. When two 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.760 finally jumping off and you started seeing guy being all 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.880 these offers like, oh he got a six team off, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.760 you got a seven teeth offer. I'm here butt naked 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:53.040 was zero. And then I finally remember I got my 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.800 first one, and that was that was the time when 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.520 I just got some great advice from my mother. She 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.360 just you know, she told me talking about pay just 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.800 how you know, everyone has their own course. And I 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.040 remember that day like it was bro crown on my 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.480 mom's lap like it was just today. Because I didn't 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.040 have a Scholargehi ball and that's something that I always 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.000 growing up. So it was just it was big time motivation. Man. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.200 I had ship with me going into college and I 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.240 still carry that trip with me to the NFL to 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.720 this day, just because that's kind of what made me 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.520 who I And that's kind of really that breeding my 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.040 work eutic. You know. So, so what lands you at 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.680 ford them? I mean, you're in the Bronx, Ford in 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.040 the Bronx. I don't I don't equate. I equate Bronx 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:41.480 with basketball, skip to my louse, street ball, football, pizza, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.320 but not always what what what land you afford them? 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.400 Hold on, yeah, I'm gonna be traveling at some point. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:55.080 You're about to Italian They got they got it's like 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.320 little Italy over there. Uh damn, what was that, Arthur 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.520 bro They got the best original Italian food you ever 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.040 have in your life. Arthur Right New Braun said, pizza. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.560 I don't know Italian. You like a tow No, I'm 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:15.400 from Cali. I like stages. I can't deal with the 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.200 Mexican food. Yeah, why are you shaking your head and 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:23.400 discuss you are kid? I can't deal with the Mexican food. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.000 But I'm not really I'm not big on the spices. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.440 Is a little too spicy from them. You can have 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:34.680 a good street tacosh, I said, Street Street, don't come harsh. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:42.000 Shell Street is the little I would not use, I said, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.600 tortilla corn. I'm out the hardest off. No, I don't. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.400 I'm not doing that. And the Boogie Bronski. We had 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.800 little heroes. You ever had that, the little heroes, little 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.680 stairs on the corner. I'm like skinning your dark skin. 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.520 Do you think I know the little hero is. You 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:04.960 might have called it a gyro? Oh yeah, there you go, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:10.720 there you go. Yeah, that was our street taco. That 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.760 ain't even just say. I know that's not the same thing, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.280 but that's how I related. That was our street taco. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.639 It's not even ac it's not a taco. It's not 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.359 a taco. You're right, it's cut off free. It's great 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:30.439 it's great. But here's what I'm telling y'all. I'm telling y'all, 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:35.200 I didn't get with the tacos. No thatly noted due 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:40.119 in Arizona. Tao. Yeah no, bro, But can I get there? 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.479 Can I get the pizza reference? Because he was in college. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:49.560 I know you had a late night snack. What was it? 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.479 What was it? Yeah, you know, I'm trying to think 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.119 of a good pieces. That's the white sauce, right, the 0:17:55.119 --> 0:18:03.080 white sauce. That's the white sauce. Right. No, it's not 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:12.200 the white sauce. It's afraid o son. No white sauce 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.119 is out Alfreido sauce. I'm talking about Sicilian pieces, the 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:20.000 thick crust, the thick crust, Yes, that Sicilian pizza. You 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.000 got a phone? How about your YouTube that when you 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.800 go by the end of this show, you're gonna have 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.720 a laundry list of you. You're gonna be the first 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:32.199 podcast episode afterwards. No, no, no, don't do that to me. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.520 Don't do that to me. I said, what the white sauce. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.879 Don't do that to me. Gracious man, boy, if I 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.920 had Thursday night were Arizona. I'm bringing this back up 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.320 when he is the player of the game. He's on 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.600 the desk. I'm saying, hey, did you have that white 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:59.920 sauce pizza. He's gonna be like, what Steve and Steve 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:05.000 White sauce pizza. Alright, but let's go back disappointed. What 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.040 later did you in for them? I had a high 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.680 school coach, Gump May, and he uh, he was like, hey, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.640 I got this. I got this old high school kid 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.440 I used to coach. He's, uh, the o C at 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.199 a school called for them. I'm like, Florida, They're not 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:22.600 for them. For uh, that's what you expect from white 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:29.240 sauce Florida. Boy, No, Florida games back. We can we 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:37.240 can do that, he said, for them for them? Hey 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.880 you original man. I like you boy man bro I said, 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.040 I ain't never heard of that school before. He said, no, no, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.800 they they Division one Double A, you know, but they 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.720 built on the program and at the time they had 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.240 uh Joe Moorehead. So Joe Moorehead was my head coach, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.040 and he was my head coach, but two years he 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.800 coached up at Pens State when they had sat Quantum Boys, 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.480 and then now he's he's the o C origin. So 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.960 he was bringing in that new spread style offense, and 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.240 I was, you know, I looked, I looked at the 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.600 team a little bit kind of looked out. I said, okay, 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:13.520 so here's my choices really between Fordham and Villanova and 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:18.000 James Madison, and I slowly made my decision off of Okay, 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:19.720 where am I gonna get on the field the earliest, 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.480 because if I'm going SCS ball, I need I need 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.560 enough time and enough film on just you know, preparing 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.359 myself and really get the most exposures possible. So I 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.240 felt like that Ford and Michael winning job over my 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.879 freshman year, and um, that that's what I did. So 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.800 that saw I landed up there. We have to take 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.000 a break and the morning thing, we gotta pay some bills. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:48.560 H you got checks. I love cut to It and 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.679 I love it even more when you download us and subscribe, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.800 and you can follow us on social media too, Smithie 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.200 where where at at? Cut to It on Instagram? What 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:04.399 about Twitter? At cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:08.200 featuring Steve Smith sent your what about online and you 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.640 can follow us at cut to It podcast dot com 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.960 where you can buy merch and you can subscribe to 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:17.119 us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:21.560 answers questions. Uh yeah, I got all my questions answered. 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.200 That's what I'm here for. A brother cut to a 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:30.320 podcast dot com. How would you describe your time at 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.640 for them? Looking back? You know, was it the best 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:39.560 move for you? For me? Yeah? Yeah, I remember that 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:41.159 just because I remember my mom. She wanted to be 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.560 going going up the bad as hell, and I kind 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.160 of just sat it down and I said, look, I'm 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.280 looking at this business decision. You know, I want to 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.920 make to the NFL. I'm not worried about nothing else. 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.200 And again I know that probably something crazy like okay, 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.560 you're going to afford them, you're worried about the NFL. 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.280 But that was my I felt like I could play earlier. 0:21:57.720 --> 0:21:59.920 I feel like I've got success there. So I took 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:01.680 that leave the faith of my own on my own. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:03.639 I chose for them. I felt like it was the 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.080 best time for me. But going there, man, I hated 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:08.240 that there. In school, I ain't got a lot of 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.920 you had had to do school work. The school work 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:16.040 was crazy. Oh my gosh. How ye. I looked up 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.239 for them, and I looked up bro as far as 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:29.600 Ivy leaves right right, They're not a big name. But oh, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.440 you can't go on there. You can't go on there 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:36.639 like some of these running backs tiptoeing through the books. Man, 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.040 that's a that's a quarter of a million dollar scholarship, 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:42.280 like they was charging sixty years grand a year, and 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:48.280 you you out there stealing free education. I appreciate. Now, 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.240 did you really pay attention on where you really just 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.639 there as a as a as? I mean, I did 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.520 my work, you know, I had to do my work. 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.639 You know. It's crazy though, as much as I hated it, 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.040 the class that I think I just learned the most 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:11.280 about in terms of his life and respective perspective with theology, awesome. Yeah, 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:16.400 Like because we were doing theology and philosophy, they would 0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:18.840 just ask you these these these very what's the word 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.480 I'm looking for? They would ask you some some intellectual 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:27.080 ask questions and and you really have to think think 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:31.159 about your answer, why, why? Your why? Your answers is 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.600 what it is, what your answers ought to be the 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.560 owners that were ought to be. And that just opened 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.760 my mind a lot. Like we was we had a lesson. 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.800 We were trying to prove the existence of God and philosophy, 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:43.640 and I really that's what that's one that I really 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.640 respect because like you talk to people, you know, I'm 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.480 a Christian, you talk to people who are atheist, you know, 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.000 whatever they are, And as a Christian, I feel like 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.520 that's my duty too to spread the word of God 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.159 and spread his ideas and show his love and how 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.600 his grace helped me in my life. So when we 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.640 really that lesson or just proving the existence of God, 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:04.960 that's something that come on and then actually maybe start 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:09.280 to appreciate that class. My daughter took that and they 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:15.560 call apologetics. Apologetics. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing, 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:19.840 talking about how God and be able to, um, make 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.720 your point and make your point and some of that. 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.920 But they're they're looking at it because, um, if I'm 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.200 not mistaken, isn't that that it's a Catholic school, correct? Yeah, yeah, 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.800 so it was. It was it was base, biblic clube base, 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.640 or spiritual base. So it's teaching you how to maneuver 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.440 through life and be able to see how God is 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.520 in the existence of everything, whether you want that or not. 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.760 The fact that an atheists can say they don't believe 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.320 in God, which means that that's actually do that exists, 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.280 that they don't believe in that's you know, that's literally 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.280 what they were talking about. They were talking about life. 0:24:54.480 --> 0:25:01.040 I didn't go there though, actually don't. I don't know 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:08.960 the conversation. I'm just I'm just I'm just like that, Okay, dude, 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:16.480 I'm just like that. I have a transition. You know. 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.200 I love about this podcast. Sometimes it really gives me 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.960