1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: health care already, then you can keep your plan. If 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: you're satisfied with is not any president of the United States, 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: take it to a bank. Together, we will make America 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: great again. You'll never sharend It's what you've been waiting 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: for all day. Buck Sexton with America. Now join the 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: conversation called Buck toll free at eight four four nine 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to eight 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton, Team Buck, 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hut. Freestyle Friday begins. But we've 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: got a lot of news to talk about today. The 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: breaking news in fact that just happened in the last 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: well just happened within an hour so of me going 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: on air here. Um, another shakeup at the White House. 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Previous Ryan's previous is out and General Kelly, who had 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: been DHS head, he is in fact now the chief 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: of staff for the White House. So that's what that's 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: the some of the big news from today. Of course, 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: we've got to talk about health care. UM, I mean 21 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: that's gonna take up a lot of our time today 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: and whatever else you've got on your mind. I should 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: note eight four four buck eight four four to five. 24 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: The the White House Palace intrigue stuff is moderately interesting 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: to me. I do think it's fair to ask the question, 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: what exactly is going on? I don't mean with this 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: White House in terms of what they're trying to do 28 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: across the country. I mean what's going on inside the 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: White House? You know, there's it does seem to be 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: a little unsettled. Um, And it's been quite a week 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: for reporters on this. You had the new White House 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: Communications Director, Anthony Scaramucci, getting much more attention than I 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: think he even anticipated in his first forty eight hours 34 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: or so as White House Comms director. You had the 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: resignation of Sean Spicer, resignation in protest at some level. 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: Now you've had Ryan's previous pushed out by the way. 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: I will note I said yesterday on the show, previous 38 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be. I mean, I don't think this was 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: a hard call to bank, but previous was clearly his days. 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: His days as the White House Chief of Staff were numbered. Um. 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Now I have to wonder is Bannon next. I think 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: that's the question. A lot will be asking I've been 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: telling you Sessions. People said, Oh, they they sent Sessions 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: down to where's he's in Central America somewhere. Uh, he's 45 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: out of the country. They sent him there. Not I 46 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: think so that they could get ready to get rid 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of him. I think they sent him there to let 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: things cool down and then I'll bring him back and 49 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 1: things will go back well. Not I don't know what 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: normal is with this white US. But anyway, all of that, 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: when we can talk more about it, all of that 52 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: is secondary to the fact that, uh, the the GOP 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: is in the midst of an existential crisis right now today, 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: right here, GOP is in an existential crisis. It does 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: not have a particularly compelling answer. I don't even know 56 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: if it has an answer to what do you do 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: that the Democrats don't do? Why are you better for 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the American people? The Democrat Party. Sure, you tell us 59 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of stuff that you want to 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: do that would be better you. You say you share 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: conservative principles with us. You say that the Republican Party 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: is about constitutionalism and limited government and ethics and morality. 63 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: You say all of those things. But then when push 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: comes to shove, when the hour is upon us for 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: action to be taken, and for those actions to speak 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: much louder than any words could. What do we get? Well, 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: we get this. Those were gasps from the moment that 68 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: Senator John McCain decided two resurrect Obamacare. Obamacare could have 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: been gone, um, but or at least on its way 70 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: to being gone. But now I think we do have 71 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: to accept a reality where it's here. It's not going 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: away anytime soon. I don't know what it will take. Um. 73 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: People keep saying, let it collapse, let it collapse. No, 74 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: that's not going to work. That's not the way this 75 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: will play out. There will be cash infusions from the taxpayer. 76 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: Are we really going to say that the federal government 77 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: has created a healthcare system that forces people to buy 78 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: into exchanges and they can't. It's not even possible to 79 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: be a resident of a certain state of several states 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: at this point where you can buy such a healthcare policy. 81 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Know what they will do is they will shovel tax 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: They will throw taxpayer cash at the problem. The the hose, 83 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: the spigot of money, taxpayer money will be turned on 84 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: to save this thing. It's not going to collapse in 85 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: a way that brings us closer to free markets. It's 86 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: going to deteriorate slowly, and with that deterioration will come 87 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: increase political pressure to fix it as is. But let 88 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: me get back to what happened before I get into 89 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: where it's going. I know I'm already going down that path. Um, 90 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: you had Senator John McCain, who came back to a 91 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: literal Heroes welcome in d C. Voted with his fellow 92 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Republicans on the motion to proceed to bring to the 93 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: floor the ability to actually get going on something for healthcare. 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: And then we had a couple of days here where 95 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: it was all about skinny repeal. But before I get 96 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: into what ended up happening here the specifics of the event, 97 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: let's remember what Senator John McCain, when he wanted to 98 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: continue to be Senator John McCain, what he said to 99 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: the American people. You know the messages this healthcare bill, 100 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: repeal and replace, repeal and replace, Repeal and replace, repeal 101 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and replace, repeal and replace, and then if you don't, 102 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna repeal them. We will stop the out of 103 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: control spending in tax increases, and repeal and replace Obamacare, 104 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: Repeal and replace Obamacare, said it time and time again. 105 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: In fact, claimed on campaign posters for re election for 106 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Senate that he was leading the fight, leading the fight 107 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: of the line, in the vanguard tip of the spear 108 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: to repeal and replace Obamacare. Now, I know that Senator 109 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: McCain has um much more of a much more of 110 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: a political shield than many others in the Senate because 111 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: of his incredibly honorable service to the country. But we're 112 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: talking about health care now, and this has nothing to 113 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: do with this service. It really does. This debate has 114 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this service to the country. This 115 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: is about healthcare. This is about millions of people who 116 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: may not be able to get healthcare. We are going 117 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: to now be sitting in doctors waiting rooms wondering if 118 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to pay for the services 119 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: that they will get, or going to be staying up 120 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: late at night wondering whether they're going to be paying 121 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: the medical premiums they have to keep their family ensured 122 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: and covered, or just be laid on the rent and 123 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: hope they don't get evicted, or laid on them mortgage 124 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: and hope they don't get foreclosed on. This affects people. 125 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: This is pain for people in some cases, many cases 126 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: will be literal physical pain and perhaps even worse economic anxiety. 127 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: The wrong decision here has consequences, and you can say 128 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: that you know, well, Buck, you can argue this either way. 129 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: And he did what he thought was right. Now. He 130 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: made a promise, He gave his word. That's what standing 131 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: up and chanting and saying vote for me. I'm leading 132 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: the fight. I'm leading the fight. He lied, He lied. 133 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: He wanted to be the Senator from Arizona still, and 134 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: he lied. Bottom line. I read his tweet today about 135 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: how all the I wanted to repeal, but the replacement 136 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: bill wasn't good enough to the But no, I'm sorry. 137 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: They could have easily repealed this and replaced it in 138 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a series of different bills. It doesn't matter. He promised 139 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: repeal and replace and it was all just a ruse. 140 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: So let's just come to grips with that. And you've 141 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: got Collins and Murkowski. We all, we all knew that 142 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: they're not really Republicans. Fine, we get that, that's been 143 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: clear for a while. Um, But Senator McCain, I think 144 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: this this turned into a legacy issue for him. It's 145 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: notable that you had, uh, John Roberts save Obamacare at 146 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and John McCain now save Obamacare in 147 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: the Senate. And I understand that this was skinny repeal, 148 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: which I don't even really think we can call repeal, 149 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: but at least it was something. At least it was 150 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: a version of, um, what was supposed to what was 151 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. What we've seen here is that the 152 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Republican senator is useless on healthcare. They're just useless. And 153 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, Ted Cruz I think channeled much of the 154 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: anger today. Um, here's what he said. Senators are going 155 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: to go home the next few weeks. They're gonna go 156 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: home to the states, and they're gonna face their constituents. 157 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: They're gonn have hard questions of people, look them in 158 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: the eyes and say why did you lie to me? 159 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, it's not just gonna be the 160 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: senators are voted. Now, the senators voted, Yes, they're gonna 161 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: be asked, why did you lie to me? Because the 162 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: voters are not going to distinguish. They're gonna say, you 163 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: guys promised to do this in your faith. Yeah, that 164 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: is correct, That is correct by the way I saw 165 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: some report. I don't know how much credibility you want 166 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: to put it in or not, that McCain voted against this, 167 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: against skinny repeal, so that other senators who were hoping 168 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: to other senators who didn't want it to pass could 169 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: vote for repeal and replace. So he was giving them cover. 170 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: But I would say, but that's that's uh to borrow 171 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: work for the Democrats. That's collusion in a lie. That's 172 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: giving them cover they should not have. He shouldn't, And 173 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: but I also don't. I just have a hard time 174 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: believing that. I don't believe it. I also think that 175 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: it's it's funny to see people try to put this 176 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: on on the at the president's feet. The President said 177 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: he would sign whatever the Senate passed. You have Republicans 178 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate. You've got senator Senate 179 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: republicans able to get a majority get a bill passed, 180 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it. This isn't on the president. 181 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: This is on Congress. And isn't it interesting that many 182 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: of us have been told for quite a few months 183 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: at this point that Donald Trump will betray conservatives, He's 184 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: gonna he's lying to conservatives, he's a con man. He's 185 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna betray them. Well, who really is responsible 186 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: for at least the first major betrayal of conservative principles 187 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: in the Republican Party. It's not Donald Trump. It's Congress 188 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: and its specifically senators, senators who did not do what 189 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: they said they would do. So this is where, this 190 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: is where we are now. I mean, Mitch McConnell is 191 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: just stayed in the obviously saying it's time. It's time 192 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: to move on. He says, this is UH, you know, 193 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: clearly a disappointing moment. From skyrocketing costs UH to plummeting 194 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: choices and collapsing markets. Our constituents have suffered through an 195 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: awful lot under Obamacare. We thought they deserved better. It's 196 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: why I and many of my colleagues did as we 197 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: promised and voted to repeal this failed law. We told 198 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: our constituents we would vote that way, and when the 199 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: moment came, When the moment came, most of us did. 200 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: I think the American people are going to regret that 201 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: we couldn't find a better way forward. Now, Mr President, 202 00:12:54,440 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: it's time to move on. We're going to what you 203 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: really think it's gonna be so much easier to get 204 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: tax reformed on with the Democrats. Taxes allowed Democrats to 205 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: favor constituencies to engage in massive social engineering, to engage 206 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: in wealth redistribution, socialism under the guise of social justice. 207 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: That's what That's what the tax code is. You think 208 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an easy fight. Come on, Democrats are 209 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: waiting for that one. They are just waiting to be 210 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: able to talk about how any any tax break, because 211 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: we have a system that has higher taxes for higher 212 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: earners is going to benefit those higher earners more. It's 213 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: gonna benefit corporations clearly, if we cut the corporate tax 214 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: rate down to fifteen from thirty or thirty five wherever 215 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: it is now, that's all going to happen if they 216 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: got tax reform. But they're not getting a tax reform. 217 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what we're supposed to 218 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: get excited about for the Republican Party. Look at Democrats. 219 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: They say what you will about them. They know how 220 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: to wield power. They move as a on lith they 221 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: move as a unit. They try to achieve their objectives. Yeah, 222 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: they have their objectives harm the country and they lie, 223 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: cheat and steal to get there. But at least they 224 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: take action, and they take their I said collective action. 225 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: They do it together with Republicans and only yeah, you 226 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: could say it only took a few buck But what 227 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: else are we supposed to do? How are if the 228 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Republicans are a party and they can't agree on this, 229 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: can they agree on anything that's particularly worthwhile other than 230 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: doing favors for their buddies from the chambers of commerce 231 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: and various special interests, you know, the the donor class 232 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: in d C. Republicans are great at keeping them happy. 233 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: But for you, for me, do they do anything worthwhile? 234 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: They didn't help us out on healthcare. And by the way, 235 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: the healthcare just this is just gonna get worse and worse. 236 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: Single payer now becomes a more compelling option, certainly more 237 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: than it was in the past. Why go through all 238 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the wrangling over costs and prices and how many different 239 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: how many different regulations the government's going to add or 240 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: pull back or what? Just just let the government pay 241 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the tab for everything. Right, of course it will be 242 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: very expensive, but we'll make We'll make the next generation 243 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: or the generation after that pay We'll just run up 244 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the national credit card. Twenty trillion, thirty trillion, let's make 245 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: it fifty trillion. Why not? This is what's going to happen. 246 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: And you know, if this turns into the disaster that 247 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: some of us think it will be, meaning that if 248 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: we do go down the pathway of a single pair, 249 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, we are an economic engine and and a 250 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: there s a a beacon of freedom and liberty for 251 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. It doesn't even just affect us. 252 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: It affects the entire planet. It affects the future of humanity. 253 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: But you know, hey, Chuck Schumer's happy about it. So 254 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: there's that eight four four buck eight four four to 255 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: five we got, I mean, so much more to talk about. 256 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: Just stay with me and let up. Those lines will 257 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: be right back. We should replace and repeal. Appeal and 258 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: replace is to be replaced, repeal the law. To repeal 259 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: and repeal, repeal, repeal it repealed the lots. It's gonna 260 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: be repealed and replaced, repeals and replaced, Healing Obamacare, reform 261 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: and replace repeals it needs to be repealed and replaced, 262 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: and repeal to repeal and replace the repeal lists, Repeal 263 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 1: Obamacare and oppose Obamacare, repealing, repeal, replace, repeal and replace Obamacare. 264 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: You get the idea. Let's I gotta figure if wherever 265 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: president's former President Obama is anywhere in the world, he's 266 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: got to just be laughing and laugh and here's a 267 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: right to, here's a right to. Republicans just just stumbled, 268 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: just stumbled around on this thing. And you know Obama 269 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: could be, you know, out there in a in a 270 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: prius doing donuts on their front law and I mean, 271 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, victory. Their Democrats should be doing a 272 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: victory dance. There's no no way around it. Of course, 273 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer saying when we're not we're not celebrating. We 274 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: are not celebrating. We are relieved. We are relieved not 275 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: for ourselves but for the American people. We'll get more 276 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: into what Schumer wants, by the way, going forward at Schumer. Uh, 277 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: but we lines are lit in the freedom huntel and 278 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: it is Friday. So let's take some calls here, Uh 279 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Bob in Virginia on w p T I Hey Bob, yes, 280 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: sir um. All of this we've seen now that we 281 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: have Republicans dressed in Democratic clothes, this party stuff is 282 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of Bologney. Now. Uh, I don't know what 283 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: to say. I'm a sixty year old man, and I 284 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: might feel for my kids. I really don't know what 285 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: to think anymore. We've lost complete civility. Uh. You know, 286 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm tired of being the harsh one called and singled 287 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: out and bullied. But you know what, Uh, it's just pathetic. McCay. 288 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about him. Uh. I've 289 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: always had my opinion. I have respect for the you know, 290 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: for his service. I'm a strong support supporter of military. 291 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: But you know, if this wasn't a set up, I 292 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: don't know what a setup was. And I'm very I 293 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: really am. I never thought I could get like this. 294 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: I am really upset. I am not going to be 295 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: in any party anymore. But I don't see any avenue. 296 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just crazy. I don't know what 297 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: to think. I am lost, and that scares the hell 298 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: out of him. I will say, Bob, for those who 299 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: are um and look, man, I really appreciate your sentiments, 300 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: and thank you shield Tay, and thank you for calling 301 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: in for those who are saying and have been all along. Uh, 302 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: Trump needs to shake up the system. His approach is 303 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: is a necessary counterbalance to this. You know, I've certainly 304 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: had my doubts here and there, but you just had 305 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: the most establishment Republican senator in many ways in the 306 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: US Senate. Make sure that Obamacare is around probably forever. 307 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: So the Republican establishment and in its way of doing things. 308 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: I think we all really know now where where they stand. 309 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear. So if we want something else, 310 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: that's something else might seem enact and be quite different. 311 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to 312 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fun never stops. Five years 313 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: I've served in Senate, there's no issue I have thought 314 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: harder on, devoted more time to than stopping the disaster 315 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that is Obamacare. And mark my words, I am committed 316 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: to this fight. As long as there is breath in 317 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: my body. I will be fighting for the working men 318 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: and women of this country that are being hurt by Obamacare, 319 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and I believe it will be repealed. No party can 320 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: remain in power by lying to the America and people, 321 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: and I hope and pray that our party doesn't try 322 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: to do this anything. I agree with Senator Cruz on 323 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: the sentiments, but the Democrats have been empowered plenty of 324 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: times for plenty of time, and they lie all the time. 325 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: So now we just see the Republicans lie to on 326 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: the big stuff. You know, felect a plan. You can 327 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: keep it, like you doctor, you can keep your doctor. 328 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: That wasn't true, but bog got reelected. Lying is effective. Unfortunately, 329 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: in politics, lying really works. And when you're the party 330 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: of the state, when you're the Democrat party, when you 331 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: are offering state is m when that is your philosophy, 332 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: you're governing political philosophy. One of the most important things 333 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: you can do is to lie to people about how 334 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: much you can give them, and also lie to them 335 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: about how scary everything will be if you don't very 336 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: effective tactic. You lie and say that will provide this 337 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: for you and there will be no cost. You lie 338 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: and say that will provide it for you, it will 339 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: be better. In fact, if we didn't provide it for you, 340 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: you probably couldn't get it. You lie and you say 341 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: that if it wasn't for the states stepping in here, 342 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: you'd have nothing. There'd be no way for you to 343 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: get health care. People would be out in the street, 344 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: they'd be sick, they'd be dying. No one cares. The 345 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: American people don't care about each other, the private sector 346 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: and the market. Those are all just myths that conservatives 347 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: tell themselves as they clink their Scotch glasses together and 348 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the parlor rooms of fancy hotels where they smoke expensive cigars. 349 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all a caricature, right, but it works. 350 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: It works, and what do we have to fight against it? 351 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Republicans who are h after today, how could you say 352 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: anything other than I wish I could sit down the 353 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Republican Party and say, it's not that I'm hurt. I'm 354 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: just disappointed in you. That's how I feel about the 355 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Republican Party. Right about when your parents, if either it's 356 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: ever said that to you is the worst thing ever, 357 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: you know, yelling at you you could handle. But you know, 358 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: it's not that. It's not that I'm at I'm just disappointed. 359 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: And if they really meant it, you're like, ouch, you know, son, 360 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: it's um, I just expected better from you. I'm just disappointed, 361 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, you go, Um, So I'm disappointed. I think 362 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: I think they're I thought skinny repeal. Well no, actually 363 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: I didn't think this was gonna work. I've told you 364 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: how many times this week have I said, I'm trying 365 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: not to be cynical. I'm skeptical, but not cynical. I 366 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: think that's what I said, maybe on Monday or Tuesday. 367 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: But it's just I knew. I knew, and I knew 368 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: in part because you've got people in the Senate who 369 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: call themselves Republicans their conservatives when it benefits them, but 370 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: when they get the opportunity to be written about in 371 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: glowing terms about the New York Times, you know, ego vanity. 372 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: These are very powerful, very powerful, um tools for manipulation 373 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: of public figures, well of everybody, but certainly of public figures. 374 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: You know, the New York Times editorial board put together 375 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: this at the very bottom of their editorial on what 376 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: is really the resurrection of Obamacare? I mean, it should 377 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: be on its way out. I know it wasn't gonna 378 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: be a full repeal. I know they already failed on that, 379 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: but at least it would have been in process, and 380 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: it would have shown the Republicans can do something, because 381 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: if they did something then it worked and it was 382 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: making things better, then they'd have the political capital to 383 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: do something else. A phased repeal, full repeal would not 384 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: have been necessarily perfect what they promised. I get that, 385 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: but at least it would have been moving the right 386 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: direction instead. I mean, we just, my friends, we just 387 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: missed the off ramp from socialized medicine and John McCain 388 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: just hit the gas pedal. My friends, we are we 389 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: are heading now, we're speeding towards single payer, and you know, 390 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: we've got nothing really to slow us down or stop 391 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: us at this point. How why Oh it's because Obamacare 392 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: will fail. I know that Trump is saying this. Look 393 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: Trump said last or the Trump said that this should 394 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: have been done. This was last night. They held this 395 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: vote last night that all the information, all the news 396 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: came in, and Trump was like, yeah, they should have 397 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: done something, they should have approved health care last night. 398 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: But you can't have everything. Boy, oh boy, they've been 399 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: working on that one for seven years. Can you believe that? 400 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: The swamp? But we'll get it done. We're going to 401 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: get it done. You know. I said from the beginning, 402 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: let Obamacare implode and then do it. I turned out 403 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: to be right. I admire the President's optimism, but I 404 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: think he's wrong on this. The worst that Obamacare gets, 405 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: the greater the cries will be for more government intervention, 406 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: more money and for the people who are left out 407 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: in the cold. But you know, the latest, by the way, 408 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: is that hundreds of counties might have no Obamacare ensure. 409 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Hundreds of counties across the country, um at least forty 410 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: counties already are probably gonna have no individual exchange offering 411 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: starting next year. But there are a whole bunch more 412 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: that might have. And by the way, what that's not 413 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: even that's just the tip of the iceberg. I mean, 414 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: there's so many more problems than just whether accounting offers 415 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: a plan or not. The plans are mostly crap. They're 416 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: not good, and people are forced to buy them. And 417 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: if you're forced to buy one but you don't get 418 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: subsidies for it, you are paying a lot in premiums. 419 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: You have to or else you pay a penalty attacks time, 420 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: so you're forced to do it. You're paying a lot 421 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: in premiums. You don't have good doctor access, and you 422 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: have very high deductibles. And by the way, your deductibles 423 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: are so high and your doctor access is low because 424 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: a good chunk of what you are paying is going 425 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: to subsidize other people in the exchange. You're paying for 426 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: other people's healthcare. That that's what is happening, especially the 427 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: moment that we talk about removing um what is insurance 428 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: from the equation, meaning that you're paying based on your 429 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: risk profile. This is all about getting younger, healthier people 430 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: into the exchange to pay for sicker and older people. 431 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: That's what the that's the scheme. That's the brilliant trick, 432 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: the brilliant maneuver here, and that's how all of these 433 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: systems are set up. And they haven't been around that long. 434 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: We're just now seeing the boomer generation getting the full 435 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: benefits that were set up for it a few decades ago, 436 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: and they're not going to be around based on the 437 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: numbers in a few decades. For those who are currently 438 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: carrying the burden, people said, oh, I've been paying into 439 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: these nunnel and programs for decades. Yeah. The average person 440 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: paying into Medicare will take out twice what he or 441 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: she paid in. I'm sorry, but that's not saying for it. 442 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: That's having other people actually pay for a big chunk 443 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: of it. That is a huge subsidy that younger people 444 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: are giving to older people. That's all it is. No, No, 445 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: it's not, it's not politically popular to talk about this 446 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: stuff in that way. But that's how it's that's how 447 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: it's structured. That's what's going on. It is intergenerational theft 448 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: by the political system, but it's popular. And that Obamacare 449 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: is all about getting young people to pay more in 450 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: insurance then they take out in healthcare. Well that's not 451 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: a good deal, is it. But that's how that's how 452 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: they're going to do it. Brian in North Carolina, w PT. 453 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I what's up, Brian, Hey buck, I hopefully can hear me. 454 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of nowhere. Um, you know, I'm 455 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of getting sick of the filing sat mantra that 456 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: keeps them thrown around and even by yourself. The American 457 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: people did not vote for Congress to what voted them 458 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 1: in so that they would repeal it. A term us 459 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: back to a free market system governments again on a 460 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: power insurance look and what we should buy and what 461 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: should be in it, and how old we need to 462 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: buy it? Anything we don't want that? This isn't You're 463 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: supposed to have choices. You want to go back to 464 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: a free market system? No, Brian, But Brian, by the way, 465 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I think your points are excellent's it is a little 466 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: tough to hear you, so hopefully we'll have a slightly 467 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: better signal with you in a second here. But the 468 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: market before Obamacare was not a free market either, my friend. 469 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: There are a tremendous amount of regulations preventing you from 470 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: buying the policy you wanted. There's no you cannot buy 471 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: policies out of state. This is the federal government determining, 472 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: via the you know, the regulation of interstate commerce, what 473 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: your healthcare plan will be in, what is acceptable and 474 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: what is not. So that's why, I mean, I understand 475 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: what you're saying repealing in the place. We're not saying 476 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: get rid of Obamacare to give us a better version 477 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: of Obamacare. But what we really want is get rid 478 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: of Obamacare and actually get rid of a lot of 479 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: the other stuff that existed pre Obama Care. Get rid 480 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: of Obamacare and no, you missed the word return, return 481 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: us to a free market system and buy that. I mean, 482 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: exactly what what that state? What that what that means. 483 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 1: But we haven't been in a free market, Brian. That's 484 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell you. We were not in 485 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: a free market and healthcare before Obamacare that's the problem. No, 486 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying that, Buck, 487 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying we were at one point this country was 488 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: at one point we had employed a free market system 489 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: that is no longer in place. I totally understand that 490 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: with regulations and chrony capitalism. That is our problem, chrony 491 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: capitalism and regulations. We want a return to a free 492 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: market system where I can go out and buy something 493 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: because hey, I want to buy that. It has the 494 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: products that I need in it, and I need that, 495 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and buy it. It's worth 496 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: it to me. Is my choice to do that? And 497 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: what's in that policy is I want, not what the 498 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: governments should be in the policy. That's one thing. The 499 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: other thing, you know, you said that, John mckeans, is 500 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: uh the problem. I can't hear you. I want to 501 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: hear you, Brian, what do you say, Um, I'm for 502 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Brian, I'm so we we can't. We can't. 503 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: If he gets a better connection, he wants to call 504 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: back and finish, we can take him later. But he's 505 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: he is in the middle of the field somewhere or something, 506 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: because like, we can't. He's cracking is connection is no good. 507 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I think he's the sathing with John McKain, which reminds me, actually, 508 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: I didn't even finish what I was saying with John McCain. 509 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I will do that. On the other side of the break, 510 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: there's New York Times editorial that mentions McCain, Um, I 511 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of you're gonna good have thoughts on this. 512 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: I would love to take a lot of calls today, 513 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: So eight four four nine buck eight four four to five. 514 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Maybe next hour we can do some action movie quotes 515 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: if you want to just have some fun. But I 516 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: want to know if you think about the healthcare situation here, 517 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: More to the point, I want to know if you 518 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: think about the Republican Party, what what now we're gonna 519 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do, what we're gonna do? What exactly what's 520 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna get done? Maybe great things, but right now it's 521 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: not looking so good. Quick break, we'll be right back. 522 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: McCain's defection from his fellow Republicans on this issue of 523 00:30:54,080 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: healthcare that kept Obamacare well, I think has put it on, 524 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: taking it off life support. And now Obamacare is for 525 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: the foreseable gonna be the way things are. This New 526 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: York Times editorial that I mentioned before. Ended this from 527 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: the editorial board of the New York Times, so you know, 528 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: from the layer of Satan and Satan himself. Here's what 529 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: it says. After this failure, Republicans must figure out whose 530 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: example they will follow. They can adopt Mr Trump's call 531 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: for yet another scorched earth campaign, or they can listen 532 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: to the likes of John McCain about the benefits of 533 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: bipartisanship and cooperation. Well, that's nice for that's nice for 534 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Senator McCain, isn't it. But for the people who can 535 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: afford their premiums, can't get healthcare policies. And for all 536 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: of us, by the way, who have way too much 537 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: government intrusion and regulation of our health care, who suffer 538 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: because of bureaucrats who think they know better when it 539 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: comes to our health care plans, who stifle the market, 540 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: who prevent innovation. All of this because of people who 541 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: make decisions for you and me that if we refuse 542 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: to abide by well, eventually now either or take away 543 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: all of our stuff or lock us up. This is 544 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: all back with at some level. Government is threat of force, right, 545 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: So they make these decisions for us and if we 546 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: don't like them, too bad, too bad. Oh okay, we've 547 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: got the caller, Brian, who's on a better connection up. Brian, 548 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: I want to let you finish what you were saying. 549 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off, but the connection 550 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: was bad. What were you saying saying? Did you mentioned Kin? 551 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned him as a Republican. That's another note. He 552 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: is in no way a Republican. He is a Democrat. 553 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: There's no way that he is a Republican, and we 554 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: need that's what we need to do. I mean you 555 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: asked earlier, what are we going to do? I mean 556 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: right now, Republicans basically know that the Republican voters who 557 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: are out there in the next election would never vote 558 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: for a Democrats and then they go, well, who else 559 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: I had to vote for? Well, I guess I'll vote 560 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: for the same Republican that's been on the ballot in 561 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. They know that that's what we 562 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: need to do, is primary them and get them out. 563 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Even the Freedom Caucus people are disappointing. I mean, Jim 564 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Jordan was all over the airways yesterday saying, excuse me, saying, basically, hey, 565 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you know Donald Trump could have taken care of this 566 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: with a stroke of a pen. He could have gotten 567 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: rid of a lot of these things with an executive order, 568 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be having this discussion. No, no, no, 569 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm a sorry, Jim Jordans of the Freedom Caucus, the 570 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: supposed uh conservative branch of the Republican Party. An executive 571 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: order can be overturned in an instant when the next 572 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: president comes in. You're supposed to do your job as 573 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: senators and right legislation. Look, I totally agree. I just 574 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: think that you know, we've been through you know, we 575 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: had the Tea Party, We've had that, We've had all 576 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: these young conservatives or new conservatives I should say, coming 577 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: into elected office in the Congress. We have all this, 578 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: and yet here we are. I mean, it's just discouraged. 579 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: We have less than twenty in Congress who are true conservatives. 580 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: And the Freedom Party has done what lately. I mean 581 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: assume that the Tea Party, they haven't done anything. Not 582 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: that I'm blaming them, but I mean the Tea Party 583 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: needs to get their act together and get back in business. 584 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: I mean, the Tea Party gave us back control of 585 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: the Congress. I mean, you know, and now we've but 586 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: the problem is the Congress doesn't. They gave control the 587 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: Congress that and thank you for calling back, Brian. They 588 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: gave us control of the Congress, but the Republican party 589 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: in control doesn't get it done. So I mean, it's 590 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: not the Tea party fault. Otherwise we have Nancy Pelosi 591 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: running the show and Chuck Schumer. Ah. Look, it's it's 592 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: very it is very frustrating, um. But I also think 593 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: we need to be very honest about what happened here. 594 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: People like people like free stuff, and there are some 595 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: key states here where Medicaid expansion is popular and there 596 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: are enough people that want that free stuff that would 597 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: vote those politicians. And by the way, it's not just 598 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: the Medicaid expansion is only it's not just people that 599 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: are are in need who are getting healthcare from the state. 600 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: It's also the hospital systems that benefit from this now, 601 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: right because they can Now you have people that are 602 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: just able to go in there with their Medicaid card 603 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: and get service, whether it's good or not. By the way, 604 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, right because where else are they going 605 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: to go? The hospital systems and states like Ohio that's 606 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: you know, people like rob like a Senator Portman. Oh yeah, 607 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: Medicaid expansions, big business everybody there. Don't don't ever forget 608 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: the corporatest interests in the welfare state because they're very 609 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: real too. And in Virginia. On the I Heart app, 610 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: you've got thoughts on this. What's up? Good evening, Mr Sexton. 611 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: You're apparently suffering from the same quandary. I am I 612 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: love hate relationship with the president. You said you approved 613 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: and then he's wrong. Well, it's not love, heyt I 614 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: just I call him like I see him. Sometimes it's 615 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: a ball, sometimes it's a strike. Okay, So I hate 616 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: some comments and I wish advisors would you know, take 617 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: away his fingers, his tongue. And then I love him 618 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: because my stock market propolio has increased twenty grand since 619 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: he took office. Hmm, well yeah, I mean the stock 620 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: market is doing really well. So that's there was a 621 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: democrat in office. By the way, you'll be hearing all 622 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: the time about how well the stock markets doing, how 623 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: well the economy is doing. All those things right now 624 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: are very strong. Um. And we just saw and and 625 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: thank you for hold of thank you for calling in. 626 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: We we just saw that second quarter economic growth was 627 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: double first quarter growth. That's the kind of thing I 628 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: just came out today. That's the kind of thing that 629 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: would be a big headline under Democrat administration. You know. 630 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: It's a Republican though, and can't be that Trump is 631 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: encouraging commercial activity and encouraging the private sector to do 632 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: what it does. Let the business of the American people 633 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: be business? Or could it? Maybe that is part of 634 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: all this. Look I I can't begin to explain or 635 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: or defend some of what's been going on with the 636 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: Cedior White House people this past week. I mean, interesting 637 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: to talk about, but in terms of making sense of it, 638 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I guess I do. I do 639 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: begin to explain because I do it on a radio show. 640 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I don't have all the answers 641 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: on that. But just because I don't like the the 642 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: style sometimes from his White House, I'm still looking at 643 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: the substance on the executive side, regulations, the way the 644 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: regulatory agencies have been reined in the way that businesses 645 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: are being encouraged and they know that they're gonna have 646 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: a clearer path they in the past. That's all very strong. 647 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: That's all on the Trump side. Congress, I'm looking at 648 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: today and I'm just saying, Republicans of Congress, you know 649 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately? Lately? Republicans not much. 650 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America, buck Sexton his back. 651 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: I asked the question the last hour, what can we 652 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: look to the Republican Party for? I'm not gonna be 653 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: labor the frustration I feel not just with well with 654 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: John McCain, specifically in the vote that he cast in 655 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: order to keep Obamacare complete. It was not going to 656 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: be repealed completely. But now the law is in fact complete. 657 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: There's nothing that changes with it. But what can we 658 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: count on the Republican Party for or the Republican Congress. 659 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: And here's here's an answer, that they will pass sanctions 660 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: on Russia. Okay. In just the last three years under 661 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, Russia has invaded Ukraine and an ex Crimia, 662 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: threatened NATO allies, and intervened militarily and Syria, leaving a 663 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: trail of death, destruction and broken promises in his ways. 664 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: And of course, last year Russia attacked the foundations of 665 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: American democracy with a cyber and information campaign to interfere 666 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: in America's two thousand and sixteen election. I am proud. 667 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: I am proud of the two individuals who just spoke, 668 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: so Or from Maryland and the Center from Tennessee. Both 669 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: of them have worked in a bipartisan fashion and gutting 670 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: legislation to this floor. Although it's long overdue, it is here, 671 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: and I believe we will see an overwhelming vote. And 672 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: I thank them for their bipartisanship. The last eight months, 673 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: what prices Russia paid for attacking American democracy very little. 674 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: This legislation, legislation would begin to change him. The legislation 675 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: would impose mandatory sanctions or transactions with the Russian defense 676 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:36,280 Speaker 1: or intelligence sectors, including okay, a Russian defense grade. On Thursday, 677 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: the Senate did pass something, this legislation that puts new 678 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: sanctions on Russia and also gives Congress powers to block 679 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: the President Donald Trump from easing sanctions against Moscow. Pass 680 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: the Senate to two past the House four hundred nineteen 681 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: to three on Tuesday. Okay, do no Russia sanctions. I'm 682 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: not going to disagree with Russia sanctions because I think 683 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of Russian foreign policy, a lot of 684 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: Russian foreign policy is uh well, against our interests, but 685 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: against our allies interests mostly or and and and then 686 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that Russia acts in away on the world 687 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: stage that is unhelpful to us and is also um 688 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: in many cases, destabilizing. But Okay, this isn't going to 689 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: affect you one way or the other. This is easy. 690 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: It's easy for the Congress to pass votes sanctioning some 691 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: Russian entities. That's not hard. They can spend that one 692 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: way or the other if they have to when it 693 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: comes time for the election, and no one's really going 694 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: to care either. Being increasingly belligerent with Russia, unfortunately, is 695 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: easy for our Republican party that is always interested in 696 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: the the use of US power around the world, even 697 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: if it means antagonizing countries that we might be better 698 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: served to look for some common ground with sometimes and 699 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: a Democrat party that is just hell bent on finding 700 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: some way to get us into deeper and deeper animosity 701 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: and perhaps even future conflict with Russia, because what matters 702 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: to them more than anything else is that Hillary Clinton 703 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: did not win the election. So you have the Republican 704 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: military industrial foreign policy complex coinciding with the Democrats sore 705 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: loser syndrome on Hillary to give us a very belligerent 706 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: foreign policy visa via Russia, which is not going to 707 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 1: get us anywhere. Let's just look at it this way. 708 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: Obama put sanctions on Russia. Did was did that in 709 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: any way change Russian behavior? You're In fact, all Russia 710 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: did was get further and deeper into Syria and backing 711 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: the Assad regime. But you see this now that the 712 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Republicans can be counted on to take brave moral stands 713 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: on foreign policy. Republicans in Congress, you know, they're not 714 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: the ones out there in the field, right, They're not 715 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: the ones that have to bear the consequences of extended deployments, 716 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: and they're not the ones that have to deal with 717 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: the risk to life and limb from the decisions to 718 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: militarily intervene or involve ourselves in these places. And Democrats 719 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: with when it comes to Russia, I mean, they just can't. 720 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: They can't find enough ways to keep it for them, 721 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: It's just about keeping it alive in the new cycle. 722 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: But without getting into much more of the foreign policy 723 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: wisdom or lack thereof, of antagonizing Russia further than we 724 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: already do, which I mean that's the keeping mind. We 725 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: already have sanctions against Russia. We already refer to Putin 726 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: as the thug. We we talk about russia interference the 727 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: elections NonStop in the media. Does it make your does 728 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: it do anything to make your life any better? Here's 729 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: here's another way to look at this. And and someone 730 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: needs to start saying this to to the Republicans. I 731 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: love to just oh, look at us. We're holding Russia 732 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: accountal for its bad behavior. Okay, but that's really minimal 733 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: for the rest of us in terms of benefit. Do 734 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: we do we care all that much? Uh? Is it 735 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 1: going to make your life any easier or any better? 736 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,439 Speaker 1: Are Americans any freer? Are Americans any more prosperous? If 737 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is what less uh less aggressive in Ukraine? 738 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's already sees the crimea and we're not 739 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: about He's not gonna give it back. That's not gonna happen. 740 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: Ukraine is much more important to Russia than our sense 741 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: of the international community's obligation to Ukraine to respect its 742 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: territorial integrity. So that's that's just never gonna happen. I mean, 743 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: I understand that we're we're punishing him for aggressive behavior. 744 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: But that's what the Senate can do, That's what the 745 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Congress can do. This is what we pay them for. 746 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: This is why we give them all this power. This 747 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: is why they have the power of the persons, why 748 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: they can write laws so that they can make sure 749 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: that we do things that annoy Russia economically, that hurt 750 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: the Russian economy, which also, of course, you've got to 751 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: imagine this from the perspective of the of the Russian people. 752 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 1: Why now they have to suffer? Now they have to 753 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: deal with this now. I know that the sanctions are 754 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: are targeted, but the Russian economy has been in rough 755 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: shape for a while now. So I just look at 756 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: this and I think, as as we go off into 757 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: the weekend, we're do the Republicans really think we're gonna 758 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: clop for them? If all the things that, you know, 759 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: if Russia all of a sudden, if Putin stopped abusing 760 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: and murdering journalists or having people do that for for him, 761 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not doing himself. But you know what 762 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if if Putin uh was less of an 763 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: autocrat and get adn't pulled all of his interests out 764 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: of Eastern Ukraine, and there were no more people that 765 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: were engaged in insurgent like activity or insurgency in Eastern Ukraine. 766 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: If if they if they abandon the Assad regime tomorrow, 767 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: would you really care all that much? I think it's 768 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: a fair question to ask what would it matter to you? 769 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: Would have matter to your life? Would it matter to 770 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: the American people? So Republicans are are great on this right, 771 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: And you'll notice the Democrats all went along with them, 772 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: by the way, that didn't seem to bother the Republicans 773 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: that you know a lot of Democrats that usually would say, 774 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we shouldn't you know, the same Democrats 775 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: who will just make excuses for Iran all day all 776 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: the time. We gotta be you gotta reach out to 777 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: the more and more die Democrats want more dialogue with 778 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: every jerk and every uh evil doer running a country 779 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: on the planet except for Russia, right, I mean, never 780 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: mind the fact that if we're gonna talk about human 781 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: rights and oppression and sutalitarianism, China is a little bit 782 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: of an issue too, folks, and and China could do 783 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: a lot more about North Korea, which is looking increasingly 784 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: like the most likely, uh cause us belli for a 785 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: major military exchange. I mean, god forbid something involving nukes 786 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,240 Speaker 1: even in the future. But North North Korea is getting 787 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 1: scarier all the time, and you know, still firing off missile, 788 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: still doing all this, and China plays a huge role 789 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: in that, as we know. But it's all about Russia 790 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,280 Speaker 1: all the time. We're we're going to be sanctioning Russia, 791 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: We're going to continue to try to isolate Russia. You 792 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 1: know this is gonna end with what I mean, That's 793 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: what I would want to ask the Republicans and comic 794 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: is gonna end with what a change in Russian behavior? Unlikely? 795 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: And even if that be a change of behavior happened, 796 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: would you care about it? What I care about every 797 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: think the answer is almost certainly not really on what 798 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: matters to all of us. They can't get anything, they 799 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: can't do anything worthwhile, they can't write laws that make 800 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: us freer. They can't write laws that or let me 801 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: take that, let me take this from a different perspective. 802 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: GOP Congress, Congress in general, across the board, BIPARTI is 803 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: a bipartisan criticism, but I expect more. I expect something 804 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: from Republicans, I mean, Democrats just make it worse. I 805 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: expect Republicans sometimes to do the right thing. I would 806 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: hope at least they say things that make me think 807 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: it's possible they are capable of doing the right thing. 808 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: But where how on what? Maybe they could just make 809 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,479 Speaker 1: the government less intrusive, less damaging, less destructive. That would 810 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 1: be a start, right, that would be progress, real progress. 811 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: But now they can't even do that. So where what 812 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: are we left with? What do we have at the 813 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 1: end of all of this? We'll see, I mean, you know, 814 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: Trump is saying that this is that it will collapse. 815 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. But there's no real leadership on 816 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: healthcare right now, and it's just gonna get worse. And 817 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 1: they want to clap for themselves. A lot of self 818 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: congratulation under the Congress on what's going on here with 819 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: Russia sanctions, and also in the commentary class too and 820 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: in media, Oh yeah, we're really standing up to Russia. 821 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: What I mean, Putin's worth No one even knows how much. 822 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: But Putin is a vastly wealthy and powerful individual, and 823 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: he really cares about some Russian sanctions that are targeted 824 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: against some some agencies or whatever. I mean, this is 825 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: gonna do what exactly, But the history of sanctions as 826 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: a tool of affecting policy is is very bleak. I 827 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: should note by the way we're really going to talk 828 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: about this. Did the did sanctions uh destroy the Irani 829 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: nuclear program? Nope? Did sanctions and Saddam Hussein Saddam Hussein regime? Nope? 830 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm just going down the line. And but sanctions against Russia, 831 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: that's going to stop them from pursuing Ukraine is a 832 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: core interest to the Russian state. The future of Ukraine, 833 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: they believe is a core interest. It is essential to them. 834 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: Is it essential to you? No? Not essential to me? 835 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: And sure I feel I feel badly that they are 836 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: the recipients of Moscow's meddling. But there are plenty of 837 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: places around the world I could point to where there 838 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: are lots of problems that are unfair or people are 839 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: doing bad things. But it's not my problem, it's not 840 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: your problem. But we do seem to have a government 841 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: that wants to make all things Russia our problem, and 842 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: that's dangerous. And at least we have a Congress that 843 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: wants to do that. That's that's dangerous. A lot of 844 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 1: moral grandstanding on Russia, a lot more silence on China, 845 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: And when you start to line them up next to 846 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: each other, you think, really, on one of these is 847 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: is the existential threat to us that we have to 848 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: be constantly on guard against undermining our democracy and all this. 849 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 1: But you know, China, you want to talk about cyber 850 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: and you want to talk about cyber capability as well 851 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: as uh, what would be construed in an in another 852 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: context and another time as continuous violations of of US sovereignty. 853 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, do we do we really think that all 854 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: the stuff that's been going on in the in the 855 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: world of cyber with China and we we you notice 856 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: we don't hear about that, do we? And we only 857 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: hear about Russia. Republicans are are are because they're just having, 858 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: like I said, the Republican military industrial, foreign policy complexes 859 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: are you know, the hawkish Republican Party. So they're they're 860 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: they're going to run in that direction. And Democrats are like, yeah, Russia, 861 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: public global enemy number one is Russia, and so whatever 862 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: keeps that narrative alive because that's why Hillary lost. Of 863 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: course they're all for that. Meanwhile, what what are we 864 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: left with they can't get anything done on health care, 865 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: and they're just annoying. What is a a large nuclear 866 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: power that I we could find ways to be a 867 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: little more constructive with And I look, I think Trump 868 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: is trying to do that, but whatever he tries, he 869 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: gets slapped with the whole Russian collusion nonsense from the media. 870 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, they're being irresponsible and it's actually reckless the 871 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: way that the media is currently portraying the US Russia 872 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: relations and what the Russian state and Russian government are doing. 873 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: Because keep in mind that all the bad stuff they 874 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: complain about now Russia was doing when Obama was in office, 875 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: but that was when Obama was looking over at Medvedev 876 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, after the election, I'll have more flexibility. 877 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: So this whole moral grandstanding thing about all Russia is 878 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 1: so awful, so terrible. It's purely a function of Hillary 879 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: losing the election from the Democrats at least and from Republicans. 880 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: I've got to say Republicans. You know, anytime they can 881 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: flex a little American muscle in the global stage, they're like, yeah, 882 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: let's go for it. At least lately that seems to 883 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: be the case. And Donald Trump is the only one 884 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, maybe we should talk to Russian and 885 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: find some common ground with them. Oh, he's you know, 886 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: he's he's an agent of the Kremlin. It's just crazy. 887 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about it? But yeah, John McCain 888 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: so proud of his fellow senators for the sanctions. Okay, 889 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: who wants to place bets that those sanctions have zero 890 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: discernible effect whatsoever on Russian policy. I wish there was 891 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: a place. I wish there was a place in Vegas 892 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: where I could put money down on that, because I 893 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: promise you I would win. It's gonna do nothing. But yeah, 894 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's let's get all excited about our senators 895 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: who can do meaningless. Meaningless gesture is a lot of 896 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: chess dumping on Russia. Meanwhile, our healthcare is just getting 897 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 1: crappier and more expensive all the time. Alright, alright, white 898 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: House Shenanigans. People talk about that for a bit. And 899 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: it is action movie quote Friday. Can we can we 900 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: action movie quote Friday? There we can kill it the 901 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,400 Speaker 1: movie coast and get together, have a few left quote 902 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: free your Fridays A quote Fridays eight four hundred buck 903 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: eight four four nine eight two five. We'll be right back. Okay. 904 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: So the So the White House is an interesting place 905 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: these days. I assume it's always a pretty interesting place. Um. 906 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: I've been down I've been down there as a tourist, 907 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: and I've been down there on business. But the White 908 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: House is uh yeah, there's some stuff going on there. Um. 909 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: We have Previous out. As I mentioned at the very 910 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: top of the show, he is going out with going 911 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: out with class. I should note previous is being very 912 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: uh well, no, I think there's really no surprise here. Um. 913 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: He's saying that it's an honor and all that sort 914 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: of stuff. Um. He also said, I'm always going to 915 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: be a Trump, a Trump fan. Uh. Look, I think 916 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: that a lot of the heat that he gets, a 917 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: lot of the trouble that previous has had, and with 918 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: the perception in the press or not in the press, 919 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 1: I should say, with the base with conservatives is that 920 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: he's an establishment guy, and Trump is a Trump's whole 921 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: rise was supposed to be honest, ablished, been and so 922 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 1: previous is presence in the White House as chief of 923 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: staff made it seem like you had somebody who was 924 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: ultra establishment a very senior role. So that was that 925 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: was always a marriage with some difficulties, so to speak. 926 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: But now he is stepping aside, and he's got General 927 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: Kelly taken over his chief of staff. Now generals are 928 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: I was never in the military, so I'm just speaking 929 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: about what I could know from the outside. But I've 930 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, I worked at the CIA, and I know 931 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: what it's like to be in a very large bureaucracy, 932 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: and I understand what effective management and leadership looks like 933 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: in that bureaucracy, and General Kelly will understand the management 934 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: and leadership parts of his chief of staff role. I 935 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: don't know what his media relations and messaging skills are like. Really, 936 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: he seems like a great, very honorable, patriotic American, So 937 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: that's all. Really, that's an essential and very positive start. 938 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: But is this the job for him? I don't know, um, 939 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: but Ryan's is coming off like a gentleman here, I 940 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: will say that, and of course that's I know some 941 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: people who know him. I will say this. I have 942 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 1: some friends in the media business who know Ryan's preeb 943 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: as well, and they've always spoken very highly of him, 944 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, off off the record with me, I've always 945 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: said he's a really good dude. So and just like 946 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: that too. He's a good dude. Um. So he's out. 947 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: Richard in New Jersey on w I l M. What 948 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on everything going on? I'm sorry about 949 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: the transmission, Thank you for taking my call. I just 950 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted to say that John Kin has an outstanding war record, 951 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: but he's a very petulant man. Donald. She's getting back 952 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: at Donald Trump, was saying that he's not like a 953 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: war hero and Donald Trump and John McCain is a 954 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: very petulant man. Also, John McCain chose his petulants by 955 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: blasting talk radio. You know, I held them all and 956 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't have a recorder in 957 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: my head. But John McKinnon is a very petulant. Yeah. 958 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the if it wasn't for the 959 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: loud mouth it's on on conservative talk radio, whom I 960 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: don't have to you know the quote loud mouths, I 961 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: don't have to name them here. And if it wasn't 962 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 1: for Fox News, the Democrat party would be it would 963 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: be a one party state. We're living in my friends, 964 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, what do you say, Richard, You're breaking 965 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: up my friends? Sorry, I need people with with solid 966 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: connections here because nothing. We're frustrating for a host and 967 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: for listeners and not be able to hear you. Thanks 968 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: for calling in, Richard. But if he gets if he 969 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: gets a better connection, we'll we'll let him back on 970 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: the finish his statement there. But yeah, I did not 971 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: like McCain's comment about the loud mouths on the loud 972 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: bouts what I mean, he doesn't know who I am. 973 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: But we're right, those of us who were saying that 974 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: Obamacare is a disaster and they promised to repeal it, 975 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: We're actually right. So loud mouth or quiet mouth or 976 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: whatever we are, we were right, just saying, uh, talking 977 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more about the White House intrigue and 978 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: a few stay with me. Felix and Pennsylvania on w A. E. 979 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: B wants to get in on this action. What's up, Felix? Hey, 980 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: my inst or a book. You know when you do 981 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: your deutschouch blacker, you sound just like my cousin Andreas, 982 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: so it must be very true to life impersonation. Then 983 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: it really is also your Hillary. Yesterday you actually had 984 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: me spitting up coffee in the kebin my truck. I 985 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: was laughing so hard all right, thank you very much, sir. 986 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, it distills the essence of Hillary. You know, 987 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: whether it's sonically totally accurate is irrelevant, because you understand 988 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: new Hillary has when you hear the impersonation. If you 989 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: did that audio book, I would have to waste my 990 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: money on it because it's just too good. Maybe I 991 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: should do Maybe I should do, uh what really happened? 992 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: Like my own little version of the audio book. Yeah, 993 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 1: that that would be a great idea. Actually, kind of 994 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: like that. I might mark that one down. That actually 995 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: sounds good. Here you feel like, what do you got 996 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: for me? Okay? Alright? Also you inspired me yesterday I 997 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: figured out, you know, maybe we can get the Canadians 998 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,360 Speaker 1: to pay for our healthcare. You were talking about Canadians 999 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: that come over the border to take advantage of our 1000 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: health care. So wealth, wealthy Canadians do. Yeah, yes, hit 1001 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,439 Speaker 1: them with a big search charge and we can fund 1002 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: our healthcare system here. It's not going to be nearly enough, 1003 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: but it's a it's an idea. It's an idea of Felix. 1004 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: We could say that here's the action movie quotes. You know, 1005 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: that's just the way it always seems to go. As 1006 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: soon as I get to like in someone, they and 1007 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: around what's longer? Character number two? Well, I noticed that 1008 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: when you get to dislike in someone, then around what's longer? Either? 1009 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that like a is it a dirty 1010 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: Harry or Clint Eastwood movie? Because that's usually my weak spot. 1011 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: It is Clint Eastwood. See I knew it was Clint Eastwood, alright, 1012 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 1: hit that was Josie Wales. People say, that's a good one. 1013 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,439 Speaker 1: Is that? What? What? What is that? What is the best? 1014 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: If I have to start catching up on my Clint 1015 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 1: Eastwood because you guys always get me on the word 1016 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: is out I don't know other than like Grand Torino 1017 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: and uh Unforgiven, and you know there's a few that 1018 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: I know pretty well. Grant Sherina is probably my favorite 1019 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: Eastwood movie actually, But anyway, Outlaw Josie Wales has a 1020 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: large body count. You know, it's based at the end 1021 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: of the Civil War. He's a Confederate guerrilla. And when 1022 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: it first came out, me and my brother sat there 1023 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: and I watched them. Know how many times I started 1024 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: timing how long it was before he killed somebody, and 1025 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: was usually like within about five minutes. And if it 1026 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: wound me longer. The body count was a bit larger. 1027 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: M hmm, I missed. I don't know if I missed 1028 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: what you said that what was a bit larger the 1029 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 1: body count? Oh? But what's the best clinics Wood movie 1030 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: for me to go see this weekend? If I would, 1031 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: if I would watching one on Netflix or download one 1032 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: or whatever? What should I see? Um? The Westerns of 1033 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: the Westerns? I see the other ones? The Unforgiven was 1034 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, that's when the one the Oscar Right, 1035 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: all right, maybe I'll check that one out pail Rider 1036 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: or maybe the Outlaw Josie Wales all right? Cool shieldside 1037 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: Felix meant that you for calling in. Good to hear 1038 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: from you. Always have a great weekend. Ed in Ohio, 1039 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: w h l oh, what's up? Ed Ah? Love of much? Sir, 1040 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: was just listen to your comment about President Obama when 1041 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: he told Mends he thought it was off Mike and 1042 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: he was on Mike and he said, tell Vladimir Putin 1043 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: not to worry about the missile shield between Poland and Czechoslovakia. 1044 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: I'll have more flexibility after the elections. And I was 1045 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 1: just wondering, sir, do you think he subconsciously told him, um, putent, 1046 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: it's okay to coo ahead and um and they hate 1047 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: the crime. Beal well, I certainly couldn't pretend to be 1048 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: able to understand the subconscious of either Obama or Medvedev, 1049 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: but I can say that I think the Russian state 1050 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: was pretty sure that under the Obama administration they could push, 1051 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: they could expand they could test the limits and go 1052 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: beyond them without much in the way of pushback her consequences. 1053 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: And you know, it did send quite a message early 1054 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,959 Speaker 1: on that Obama. You mentioned the missile shield. Obama didn't 1055 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: want that because it was going to annoy the Russians. 1056 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: And remember Hillary had a big reset button. I mean, 1057 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, there's so much rewriting of history going on here. 1058 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Ed the Democrats when Obama came in. We're all about 1059 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, new beginnings and new starts and all that 1060 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: with the with with countries around the world that oppose 1061 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: us and that make our lives harder, and that or 1062 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: not make our lives harder, but you know, make make 1063 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: problems for us around the world. Uh. And the Russian 1064 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: reset button, the pivot to Asia, all this stuff, but 1065 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: with Russia in particular, you know, Hillary was all about 1066 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: trying to get warmer relations with Russia. Look, I'm not 1067 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna lie. George W. Bush too said he looked into 1068 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Putin's hard but it was a post nine eleven era 1069 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 1: and the Russians that the Russians have been fighting the 1070 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: jihadas for a long time too. So we do have 1071 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: a we do have a common enemy with Russia in 1072 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: that Russia is if you take the uh the point 1073 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: of view of clash of civilizations and and also if 1074 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: you agree with the thesis in it, Russia represents Orthodox civilization, 1075 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: which is a which is a close cousin to what 1076 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: we think of as Western and American led civilization. And 1077 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: there there is common ground there, to be sure. And 1078 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: I think that the Russians, you know, the Russian people 1079 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: should always be separated out from the Russian regime as 1080 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, we got we got no beef with the 1081 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Russian people. Yeah, I've got a problem with Russians. Yeah right. So, um, 1082 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, look Obama, Obama showed a lot of weakness 1083 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,439 Speaker 1: all over the world and we suffered the consequences for years. 1084 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: And you know, so, but whether or not there was 1085 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: a go head for crimea, I mean I think that's 1086 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: probably going that's a little specific and going a little far. 1087 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: But they did grab Crimea when Obama was in office, 1088 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: and they did go into eastern Ukraine, and they did 1089 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: go into Syria, and you know, look at all that 1090 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: stuff after he said I'll have more flexibility after the election. Yeah, 1091 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: he had. He had plenty of flexibility. I think the 1092 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 1: Russians took advantage of it. So thank you for calling 1093 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: it man shield tie. Uh yeah, you know, it's okay, 1094 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: I gotta we'll talk a little about this White House 1095 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: intrigue stuff because I will. You know, it's fried I 1096 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: wy not. I'll give you my version of it, speaking 1097 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 1: speaking of reading the subconscious of major political figures. I'll 1098 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 1: tell you what I think about what's going on of 1099 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff with the White House. Scaramucci is in, 1100 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Previous is out, Kelly is in, Spicer is out. Yep, 1101 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: A lot of that and more when we get back 1102 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: stay with me in New Mexico calling it on the 1103 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I heart app Hey, bent, hey, buck shield time, manild tie. Hey. 1104 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I just I got an actual movie quote for you 1105 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 1: real quick. Okay, all right, Well there's a scene and 1106 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: the cops are talking together and one of the cops says, 1107 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: bring me everyone, and the other cops says everyone, and 1108 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: he grabs him and he jerks him close to him 1109 01:03:52,200 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 1: and he screams into space. Every word ah the professional. 1110 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I saw that a long time. I think 1111 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,120 Speaker 1: I've only seen that movie once. But um yeah, I 1112 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I think did did they? Did they remake it? They 1113 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: remade it? Right? It was originally a French film, Yes, sir, 1114 01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I think so yeah. I think that's right, all right? 1115 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: And what else have you got from it? Sorry? So 1116 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: you got me on that when i'm I'm I'm not 1117 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: doing well to do in the action movie quotes over 1118 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: too so far? What else is on your mind? No? 1119 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I just I know that everybody's angry at the Conservatives 1120 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: and are the Republicans on this deal? And I called 1121 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 1: you a while back saying I don't think it's gonna matter, 1122 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: which I think it might, but I mean, I just 1123 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: want your thoughts are more than anything. Is. I mean, 1124 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: we got a primary amount, but other than that, what's 1125 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: the alternative? I mean, I don't even think we're gonna 1126 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I think that we're deluding ourselves if we're gonna say 1127 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: that we fix this by primarying them out because you know, 1128 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: look at how many primaries John McCain has made it through. 1129 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, and this isn't the first 1130 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 1: time that he's gone maverick and gotten a glowing editorial 1131 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: commentary in the New York Times about him. Right, that's 1132 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: in some sense you feel like this that's really his 1133 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: His brand as a Republican is the Republican who breaks 1134 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: with I mean McCain fine gold for example, terrible legislation. 1135 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: His brand is the Republican who breaks ranks with Republicans 1136 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: to give Democrats what they want at key moments and 1137 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: gets nice things written about him in the New York Times, 1138 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. And yet he wins Arizona's vote for 1139 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: him year after years. So you know, if you're not 1140 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: gonna primary John McCain, who are you gonna primary? I 1141 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: think that's what you know? Yeah, what else can you do? Though? 1142 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to give it back to 1143 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats? No? Look, I'm not I'm not saying that 1144 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: that that we shouldn't try. I'm just saying I wish 1145 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: it was as straightforward as just well, yeah, we'll we'll 1146 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: throw the throw the bums out of office, so to speak. 1147 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: But that's that's not gonna happen, man. I mean we 1148 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: we we've had now, we've we've had, like I said, 1149 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the Tea Party and the conservative wave and you've got 1150 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Marcar Rubio and Ted Cruz and the 1151 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Freedom cauc is all. You know, all these guys that 1152 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 1: uh and gals who are all about their conservative bona fidez. 1153 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: And yet here we are, here we are, we can't 1154 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 1: get rid of Obamacare. You know what, what else can 1155 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: you really say about it? Other than that I wish 1156 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: I had, you know, you know what we should make 1157 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: you have your Brent said, it's a great time to 1158 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: be alive. America is a wonderful place. And you know, 1159 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I hear New Mexico is beautiful this time of year. 1160 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: So there you go. Well I appreciate it, alright, thank you. 1161 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: So okay, So some of the White House stuff. I 1162 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: don't spend a lot of time on the shenanigans going 1163 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: on inside the White House because first of all, I 1164 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: don't I don't have close ties to this White House, 1165 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: which I think is good in some ways. You know, 1166 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: our media is so obsessed with access that I think 1167 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: they often lose objectivity. Um that just because you can 1168 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: speak to somebody who is either in power or very 1169 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: close to those in power, doesn't mean that you're necessarily 1170 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,360 Speaker 1: getting an accurate picture at all. And the moment you 1171 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: start to trade your objectivity for that access, I think 1172 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: it's very hard to have a a clear view of 1173 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: what's going on at the upper reaches of the administration. 1174 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: So I've just, yeah, I've I've got my sources that 1175 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: I speak to about this stuff who are who are 1176 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 1: closed to things. But for the most part, I'm just 1177 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: looking at it and trying to be an objective and 1178 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: hopefully sometimes insightful observer. But this week was even by 1179 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Trump administration standards, it's just a crazy week. I mean, 1180 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: you had Oh, by the way, before I get into 1181 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 1: this um, next hour, we're going to talk about some 1182 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: national security issues, including what's going on with the with Iran, 1183 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: the missile tests and the nuclear deal, UH, the back 1184 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: and forth about the Temple Mountain UH Palestinian riots because 1185 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 1: of a a an attack by UH Palestinian policeman. I mean, 1186 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I'll give you all the details in the next hour 1187 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 1: that we'll also have a one of our heroes of 1188 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 1: the week joining us to talk about what it means 1189 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: not just for him, but others to be heroes in 1190 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: this country. And then I'll share you share some some 1191 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: last minute, last minute buck stuff with you. Um. So 1192 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: that's coming up all in the next hour. So what's 1193 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: going on in the White House right now? You have 1194 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked about the Scaramucci interviews today. Yeah, 1195 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: we want to said the Scottamoucci. It's fun. It is 1196 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: a fun name to say. I will say that. So 1197 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: you've got the Scottamucci or you know, the American version, 1198 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 1: the mooch. Hey, oh, mooch. Um, it does sound like 1199 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: a the the name that would have been given to 1200 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 1: a character on on The Sopranos. But you know, he 1201 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: embraced he embraces the nickname and people for him as 1202 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: the mooch, and I like, you know, I like that 1203 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 1: aspect of it. Right. People embrace nicknames generally. I'm I'm 1204 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 1: in favor because it means they're not taking themselves too seriously. 1205 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: But you got the mooch and he went down there 1206 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: in d C. He's gotta s problems though it's been 1207 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: there's been some issues with what's been going on. He 1208 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: spoke to I always get Saliza and Liza confuse those 1209 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 1: two reporters. They're both covering stuff. Ones at CNN, ones 1210 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: at the New Yorker. I think I spoke to one 1211 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 1: of them. I think it was Liza uh and went 1212 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: on this long tirade tirade. I hear people say tirade too, 1213 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: but I'd like to say it is tirade, right or tirade, yeah, 1214 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: tirade whatever. He was on one of those things, and 1215 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: a lot of it got printed and it was not 1216 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: so not so great a debut as a communications director 1217 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 1: unless you're Trump. Because Trump liked it. Trump was like, yeah, 1218 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 1: I kind of like it. And there are those who 1219 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 1: are even saying that one of the reasons previous is 1220 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: gone is because, uh, Trump was unhappy this According to 1221 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: the Hill, that Trump was unhappy that previous didn't punch 1222 01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: back at metaphorically speaking at Scaramuch. So is that true 1223 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: or not? I don't know. It sounds like it could 1224 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: be true, though. Trump is a is a rough and 1225 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: tumble guy. He likes, he likes he likes the scrum um, 1226 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure is a rugby term, right. Uh 1227 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: So he likes to get into that huckaby Sanders was asked, 1228 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 1: she's now the White House, you know, press sector. She 1229 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: was asked about this. Here's what she said. Look, I 1230 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 1: think Anthony put out a statement here just moments ago 1231 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: and uh stated that, you know, this is a guy 1232 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,759 Speaker 1: who sometimes uses colorful and uh in many circles, probably 1233 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: not appropriate language. And uh, he's very passionate about the president, 1234 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 1: the president's agenda, and I think he may have let 1235 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,560 Speaker 1: that get the best of him in that conversation. The 1236 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,599 Speaker 1: bottom line is most of us here at the White 1237 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: House are focused on who has a job out in America, 1238 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: not who has a job here. I gotta say, of 1239 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: all the stuff I've seen from Sarah Huckaby Sanders, that 1240 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: was probably one of the best uh moments of Press 1241 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Secretary jiu jitsu. That was pretty She's like, yeah, you know, 1242 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean what and great, but hey, let's move on 1243 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: to policy. I was like, oh, look at that. She's 1244 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: she's uh, she is has verbal agility up there for sure. Um. 1245 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 1: And we heard a little more about this from Senior 1246 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: White House Counselor Kelly Ann Conway. He's making clear that 1247 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: even though these documents are eventually procurable publicly, that somebody 1248 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want him here, and somebody is trying to get 1249 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: in his way and scare him off from working here, 1250 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,160 Speaker 1: which is a huge mistake. There are leaks and then 1251 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: there are people using the press to shive each other 1252 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: in the ribs. That's different than a leak. A leak 1253 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: is did you see the memo Kelly An put out 1254 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: on this Manta? Did you hear what Jared said in 1255 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: the senior staffing. That's that's a classic leak. The other 1256 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: thing that's going on here is people occurring favor with 1257 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 1: the press getting their own positive coverage by hurting their 1258 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,799 Speaker 1: colleagues here. That is a complete disservice to the president. 1259 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: The president is doing so well and when people in 1260 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,759 Speaker 1: this House and throughout the administration do that, it steps 1261 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 1: all over the president's positive message. Yeah, there's a lot 1262 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: of egomania in government. There are a lot of people 1263 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 1: who are quite concerned with the public perception of them. 1264 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: In fact, to run for elected office at the national level, 1265 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to have an ego that at 1266 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: least borders on, if not goes deep into unhealthy territory. 1267 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: But one thing I will say is that I have 1268 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: I've never been particularly impressed with the people who run government. 1269 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: I have been very impressed with some of the people 1270 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 1: have come across in government, meaning they are public servants, UM, 1271 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 1: in the intelligence community, certainly on the military side, and 1272 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 1: in the intelligence community. I've met people who have found 1273 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,680 Speaker 1: very impressive. But even those who are at the very 1274 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 1: top of the bureaucracies and agencies I tend to find 1275 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,840 Speaker 1: deeply unimpressive. Not always, but off and and on the 1276 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 1: elected official side of things. I mean, it just feels 1277 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 1: like it just feels like clowns man. I mean, it's 1278 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 1: this is it's commonplace. Now you get people who are yeah, 1279 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I know all a fair amount of them are smart, 1280 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,839 Speaker 1: but I mean the ones that you Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi. 1281 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, how how upset am I really supposed to 1282 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 1: get about the and this is This is not to 1283 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 1: say that this is not a what about is? And 1284 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,840 Speaker 1: this is a why do I rorism? Which are different things. 1285 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: How upset can I really get about Trump's top people 1286 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,120 Speaker 1: and how they speak to press or whatever? Um? After 1287 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: the press being not just fine with but but going 1288 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: to the mat in defense of the Clinton administration for 1289 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 1: eight years and then doing everything they could for Hillary 1290 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 1: despite all of her shortcomings and and her just greed 1291 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: and grasping nature. I mean, they were doing everything they 1292 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: could for Hillary, someone who is not not ethical, who 1293 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: is very quick to sell access or at least the 1294 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 1: perception of access, in every way that she can how 1295 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: help set am I really supposed to be over the 1296 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: way that this White House functions, over the way that 1297 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 1: people in this White House speak to each other or 1298 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: the press. It's it's hard for me to summon that 1299 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 1: much will to care about this. I should also put 1300 01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: out there doesn't even really think that ram Emmanuel, who 1301 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 1: was famous for and some of it was reported, but 1302 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,600 Speaker 1: famous for using just the most look profanity. I'm a 1303 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,519 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of colorful language in my personal life 1304 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 1: off air. I mean, I think that colorful languages is 1305 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: important and is expressive in the right context. Ram Emanuel 1306 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: was quite the potty mouth from what we have been told, 1307 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 1: and was famously verbally abusive of staff and people around him. 1308 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Yet I did not a lot of not a lot 1309 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,640 Speaker 1: of people all, you know, how could Obama have this 1310 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 1: person and as the chief of staff in his White House? 1311 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 1: So this is really this goes in category of well, 1312 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to finish when I think about this, 1313 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 1: because I realized I've almost run into the break here. 1314 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 1: But stay with me on this. I've got more. I've 1315 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: got more. Major Jim in Michigan. What's up, dude, Dylan's 1316 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 1: shield high shields High. Hey, listen to you a long time. 1317 01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 1: I loved it when you filled in for Rush. I 1318 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: think you will be the replacement when he retires. Thank 1319 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: you very much for very kind words. One can only hope. Yeah, um, 1320 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 1: I got quote I'll get this first icon on action 1321 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 1: movie and hopefully you'll judge it as one. And then 1322 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:38,960 Speaker 1: I got a comment about living space, kick the tires, 1323 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 1: light the fires. I have a need for speed. Uh, 1324 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 1: top Gun? Yes it is all right. There we go, 1325 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 1: redeem myself a little bit. Okay, I mean if I'm 1326 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: miss top Gun, I might as well just finally, definitely 1327 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: an action movie. Definitely so well done on that. Now 1328 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 1: about space, My shed is yeah, I live in your shed, 1329 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 1: although I don't think. I don't think the rent would 1330 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: be the same for the shed as for the tiny 1331 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: apartment I live in New York City, although I'm moving 1332 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 1: next week. Yeah, it's gonna be slightly bigger, but not 1333 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 1: really consider the Midwest, because I mean, I've got square 1334 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: foot garage. Oh my gosh, we're foot on the house 1335 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: and I only paid eight thousand. What what state is 1336 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 1: this I'm in. I'm in Michigan. I'm just one point 1337 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: two miles north of Elkhart, Indiana. I went out to 1338 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: Michigan a little over, you know, maybe about a couple 1339 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: of years ago, like right in the center of Michigan. 1340 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: And I spoke to uh Acosta County? Is that Zetta County? 1341 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: Am I crazy? I forget? What? Yeah? Yeah, fair enough. 1342 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,639 Speaker 1: Local radio station loved to have you on. It's MNCOT 1343 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 1: five Call Call the Call a program. Director Colman put 1344 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 1: on the Bucks Actor Show. It's a It's it's always, 1345 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,960 Speaker 1: it's always a good, good decision. Major J. Man Shields, Hi, 1346 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: thank you very much for calling in. I appreciate it. Um. So, 1347 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I just want to finish some thoughts. And by the way, 1348 01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm not getting into uh, I'm not gonna I'm not 1349 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: sure I have tied this out of Trump. I know 1350 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 1: gave an MS thirteen tackling MS thirteen speech today, um 1351 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: And speaking of tackling, he did say something about getting 1352 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 1: about the police and being rough, and of course the 1353 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 1: media was like, oh my gosh, here's what he said. 1354 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: I said, please, don't be too nice. Like when you 1355 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,679 Speaker 1: guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head, 1356 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, the way you put their hand of, like, 1357 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 1: don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody, don't 1358 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away. Okay, Well, 1359 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 1: you know he was he was joking. I think pretty 1360 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,720 Speaker 1: clearly there he really was joking. But people in the media, uh, 1361 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: are upset about it. I saw people saying the President 1362 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: of the United States is encouraging violence once again, just humorless. 1363 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that you could have a president who 1364 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,040 Speaker 1: is who's so fond of making jokes and and being 1365 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 1: lightheart at a different times than speaking very off the cuff, 1366 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 1: and and yet there are people who who choose very 1367 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: obviously choose to take him literally at every turn because 1368 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: they're just deranged with with animosity towards the president. Um. 1369 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, he said that that you don't have to 1370 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 1: be so gentle. He was referring to, you know, when 1371 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 1: you are putting somebody in the squad car they was watching, 1372 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 1: there was its procedure to make sure that they don't 1373 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,200 Speaker 1: bump the head. Of course, if somebody did bump their head, 1374 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: really are you know, then there'd be a lawsuit and 1375 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,599 Speaker 1: the cops are getting trouble, and we've been through all 1376 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 1: that again. Um, but I think we'll have to. I've 1377 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: been thinking about doing a deep dive on MS their team, 1378 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,960 Speaker 1: the gang, the Central American I think it actually started 1379 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 1: in US prisons, but it has deep links to Central America. 1380 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: And I know that Jeff Sessions is in Central America 1381 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:03,280 Speaker 1: speaking to allies, their partners, law enforcement partners, they're about 1382 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 1: dealing with MS thirteen. I'm gonna do some research into 1383 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,640 Speaker 1: the group and then look into it more because I 1384 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: know they're incredibly violent and very very bad news. But 1385 01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 1: I'd say I'm more familiar with Mexican drug cartels, uh, 1386 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, the various cartels out of Mexico than I 1387 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 1: am with MS thirteen in terms of its history and 1388 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,639 Speaker 1: what it does. So maybe next week or the week after, 1389 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: we'll do sort of a deep dive into MS thirteen. Um, 1390 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: that's we are going to do. National security coming up 1391 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 1: here in just a few minutes. And then also I've 1392 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 1: got a hero joining us, So a lot planned for 1393 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 1: this last hour of the show. Um and uh, if 1394 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 1: you oh, by the way, Buck Sex and dot Com 1395 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: slash store T shirts, hats, awesome stuff including shields high 1396 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 1: T shirts, go check them out. I love freedom hut myself. 1397 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 1: But we'll be right back. We've heard of there's a 1398 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: lot going on in the world of national security and 1399 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 1: international relations, and I know this week, because of the 1400 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,360 Speaker 1: focus on health care, on the shake ups in the 1401 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 1: White House, we haven't spent as much time on those 1402 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 1: issues as we normally do. But to make up for that, 1403 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 1: now we've got a ringer, We've got an ace up 1404 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: a sleeve. Dr Jonathan Schanzer is with us. He is 1405 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 1: senior vice president the Foundation for for Defensive Democracies and 1406 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 1: he also worked as a terrorism finance analyst at the 1407 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 1: US Department of the Treasury. Dr Shans are great to 1408 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: have you, thanks a lot, Buck. Uh, So, can you 1409 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 1: first tell what happened? Because this was a story that 1410 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: at a different point of the news cycle, Jonathan and 1411 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 1: would have gotten a lot of attention. Uh, there was 1412 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,759 Speaker 1: violence at the Temple Mount. Then there was a feud 1413 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: over metal detectors. Just walk us through that from start 1414 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 1: to finish, because I actually haven't brought it up at 1415 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 1: all on the show, yet absolutely so. About three weeks ago, 1416 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 1: there was an incident on the Temple Mount that I 1417 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 1: think shocked a lot of Israelis, and that was the 1418 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: two Arab Israeli policeman. In other words, these are these 1419 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,240 Speaker 1: are Arabs who are loyal to the State of Israel. 1420 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,479 Speaker 1: They're patrolling the Temple Mount and are right outside the 1421 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 1: Temple Mount and they they get shot, uh, and the 1422 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: assailants run to the to the Temple Mount, they run 1423 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 1: to the third Holy a site in Islam, and that's 1424 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: where they seek shelter. It's apparently where they had been 1425 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: hiding their weapons, and so a shootout ensues where Israeli 1426 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: security ultimately neutralized them. Uh. At that point, the Israeli 1427 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 1: has become very concerned that perhaps the Temple Mount has 1428 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,680 Speaker 1: been used to store other weapons, or that perhaps other 1429 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: people could have exploited whatever loophole the assailants had used 1430 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: in the first place. So UH they begin to take 1431 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 1: security measures, and one of the things that they do 1432 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 1: is they install metal detectors on the Temple Mount or 1433 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 1: on the in the entrance to the Temple Mount, at 1434 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:54,200 Speaker 1: which point UH, the Palestinian community uh goes bonkers and 1435 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: UH it was. It was really actually kind of surprising 1436 01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 1: because the Israelis have done essentially what the saudiast have done, 1437 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 1: what others have done when they have uh, you know, 1438 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 1: significant holy sites where lots of people go crowd control anyway, Uh, 1439 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 1: we saw essentially days of rage, in fact, leading to 1440 01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 1: one mass murder uh in the West Bank. A family 1441 01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:20,639 Speaker 1: was slaughtered as they were sitting down the Friday night dinner. Uh. 1442 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: And Uh, the Israelis came under a huge amount of 1443 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: pressure from the rest of the Arab world to remove 1444 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: those metal detectors, and they eventually did capitulate. And UH, 1445 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,639 Speaker 1: I do wonder whether the situation is any safer today 1446 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: as a result of this. I think a lot of 1447 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,040 Speaker 1: world leaders are saying, well, it's good that we've gone 1448 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 1: back to relative calm. First of all, the Palestinians are 1449 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: still rioting. Second of all, I'm not sure we've solved 1450 01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:50,160 Speaker 1: the problem rioting because of security measures on that were 1451 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 1: put in place after a murderous incident at a holy site. 1452 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 1: That that just seems like a strange, a strange reason 1453 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: for Palestinians. I mean, what were what was their version 1454 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 1: of of why there should be. I mean that the 1455 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,000 Speaker 1: people that were upset that we're rioting, and as you said, 1456 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,679 Speaker 1: that involved its own violence, but they were complaining why 1457 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,719 Speaker 1: and what what was their claim uh for this rioting. 1458 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,679 Speaker 1: They were claiming that the Israelis were infringing upon their 1459 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 1: rights their free movement on this holy site. But really, 1460 01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they continue to make it the issue 1461 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 1: that it was that it was metal detectors. What it 1462 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 1: really was was the fact that Israel had imposed these 1463 01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 1: metal detectors, that Israel maintained sovereignty over the Old City. 1464 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 1: This is uh. We actually just passed the fiftieth anniversary 1465 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 1: of Israel conquering that territory during the Sixth Day War 1466 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty seven, and so there it was a 1467 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,720 Speaker 1: lot of tension I think as a result of that. 1468 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 1: And so I mean I always say, when you know, 1469 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 1: when people talk about the flare ups and violence in 1470 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: the Palace in Israeli conflict, they say, well, you know, 1471 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 1: why did this happen? And I and my my answer 1472 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: is always that it's the same war that the Israelis 1473 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: have been fighting since nineteen and that is just simply 1474 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: that they are not wanted there by the Palestinian UH 1475 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 1: neighbors or by many of their Arab neighbors as well. 1476 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Dr Jonathan Schanzer. He's vice president of 1477 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Who've got a bunch 1478 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: of issues to talk to you about. Dr Schanzer, and 1479 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 1: talk to me about the UH. The latest with the 1480 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Iranian missile launch. Well, uh, it is um yet another 1481 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 1: missile launch by the Iranians. Uh, you know, and and 1482 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: what it's done is it's essentially revived the debate about 1483 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,960 Speaker 1: whether or not the Iranians have been adhering to the 1484 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: nuclear deal. The Uranians will say that they have absolutely 1485 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 1: adhered to it. Except the problem is is that when 1486 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 1: the nuclear deal is ratified, it was ratified pursuant to 1487 01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,040 Speaker 1: a new U N resolution that called upon Iran to 1488 01:24:54,600 --> 01:25:00,160 Speaker 1: halt its missile launches. Uh. Now, the Iranians will say that, uh, 1489 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't say that it must halt them. It that 1490 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 1: it just calls upon them to halt. So it's really 1491 01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 1: more of an advisory rather than a demand. But the 1492 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,680 Speaker 1: bottom line is is that when we look at the 1493 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,240 Speaker 1: nuclear deal, it is it's a taking time bomb quite 1494 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,439 Speaker 1: literally that uh. In roughly ten or twelve years, the 1495 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:23,160 Speaker 1: Iranians will have that full breakout capability without having any sanctions. 1496 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,880 Speaker 1: And I think even more worries worrisome is they will 1497 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,040 Speaker 1: have the ability to UH to deliver those weapons and 1498 01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,040 Speaker 1: they will probably be able to do that within the 1499 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: next seven years because the ballistic missile embargo will be lifted. 1500 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 1: So there is this real concern that the Iranians are 1501 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: mastering UH the nuclear cycle. They're mastering some of the 1502 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: technology that they need without having all the enriched uranium 1503 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 1: that they need in order to make a bomb. If 1504 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,520 Speaker 1: you were advising the Trump administration specifically on the Iranian 1505 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 1: nuclear deal, based on where we are right now, right, 1506 01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,600 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the punditry that I 1507 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: see on TV is the worst deal ever and the 1508 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: never should have been done. Okay, fine, but you know 1509 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 1: where we are where we are today. So based on 1510 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,599 Speaker 1: where we are today with this whole thing, Jonathan, where 1511 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,680 Speaker 1: where do you think the administration should go or what 1512 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,400 Speaker 1: what would be your advice? Well, my advice is to 1513 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 1: keep it for the moment, because the Iranians are adhering 1514 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 1: at least to the letter, and of course, I mean 1515 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they're adhering to it and they're still 1516 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 1: doing all of these things should give you an indication 1517 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 1: of in fact, how bad the deal is. Right that 1518 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,080 Speaker 1: it's a good idea for them to obey the deal. 1519 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 1: It can't be that painful, right, exactly right. So now 1520 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 1: the question then becomes, well, what do you do beyond that? 1521 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,560 Speaker 1: And I think that one of the complaints that we 1522 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: hear from critics of the deal is that it didn't 1523 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: deal with any of the terrorism support. It didn't it 1524 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't tackle the support for Hamas and his blood and 1525 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,320 Speaker 1: for the Assad regime, and the hoopies and Yemen uh another, 1526 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: cyber activities, human rights. Uh. I mean, there are all 1527 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: these things that were left off the table, and that 1528 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 1: was kind of the weakness of the deal. But you 1529 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 1: can do a little jiu jitsu here, and you can 1530 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 1: you can point to the fact that because they were 1531 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 1: not part of the deal, the United States has a 1532 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,559 Speaker 1: free hand to pursue Iran through sanctions or other means 1533 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 1: because it was left off the table. Now the Iranians 1534 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: will say, well, that's not part of the deal. But 1535 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,560 Speaker 1: of course, if you if you read this thing, you know, 1536 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: strictly legal interpretation of the deal the United States can 1537 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,840 Speaker 1: pursue Iran over these issues, and so I think there's 1538 01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,360 Speaker 1: lots of room for leverage with the Iranians. I think 1539 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: we can begin to impose new sanctions. We can make 1540 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 1: it hurt as much as it hurt the last time, 1541 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 1: and uh, and and perhaps there might be a way 1542 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,160 Speaker 1: of getting back to maybe the table again to renegotiate 1543 01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,040 Speaker 1: these other things. I'm not terribly sanguine about the prospect 1544 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,600 Speaker 1: of the Iranians halting their support for terrorism, but I 1545 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: do think we can get some leverage and uh, maybe 1546 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 1: in the process, um, you know, uh, weaken the regime 1547 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 1: through perhaps asymmetrical means as well. Now, let's let's move 1548 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 1: a little bit off of Iran towards the Arabian Gulf situation. 1549 01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 1: You're on a piece in the hill these days, it's 1550 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: the clash of the Arabian Gulf. Cache in Washington, what's 1551 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 1: going on there? Well, in late May, the country of 1552 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Cutsar came under a cyber attack. It actually happened on 1553 01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 1: the same day that my organization, the Foundation for Defensive Democracies, 1554 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 1: held a conference in which we really raked the Cutteries 1555 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,719 Speaker 1: over the coals for their terrorism support across the region. 1556 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,960 Speaker 1: They are, of course an American ally, they have a 1557 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,720 Speaker 1: major air base UH in the Middle East, that's where 1558 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 1: most of our war against ISIS and al Qaeda spot. 1559 01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,360 Speaker 1: But down the street, UH, from that base, you've got Taliban, 1560 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 1: you've got no thro affront you know, al Qaida, and Syria, 1561 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 1: you've got Hamas. UH, you've got designated terrorist financiers by 1562 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the United States and the u N that have not 1563 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,679 Speaker 1: been brought to justice. So there is a real double 1564 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 1: game that the cutteries have been playing. So they got 1565 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 1: hacked in late May. They got really angry and the 1566 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 1: some one let's just say for now, no one's proven 1567 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,479 Speaker 1: who it was, but someone hacked the ambassador from the 1568 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 1: U a E to the United States, and UH they 1569 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,759 Speaker 1: tried to essentially smear the U a E For perhaps 1570 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: being behind ftd S event which they weren't, but also 1571 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 1: showing that the U a E was you know, I 1572 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 1: guess as bad or worse as as the cutteries. I 1573 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,840 Speaker 1: think they probably failed in doing that. But shortly after 1574 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,519 Speaker 1: that hack back, let's call it UH, that's when we 1575 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 1: saw UH the full rupture with the Gulf States that 1576 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE as well as Egypt, all cut 1577 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 1: ties with the cutteries. They blocked maritime roots, they blocked 1578 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,760 Speaker 1: air routes, which was devastating for the cutteries. You saw 1579 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 1: a plummeting of their of their currency, their stock market 1580 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 1: took a hit, and they were very, very isolated. And 1581 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: what we've seen since is that the Arab states have 1582 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 1: you refused to relent, and so the cutteries remain defiant. 1583 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 1: They continue to say that they're innocent. They are not. 1584 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is that, you know, if you look 1585 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: at the countries that are that are kind of lashing 1586 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 1: out of the cutteries, they're not exactly innocent either, right. 1587 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the Saudis are lecturing the cutteries on sponsoring terror, 1588 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: aren't they right? Well, now, look, I would say that 1589 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,479 Speaker 1: the Saudis have turned a corner. They're better than they were. 1590 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Are they innocent? No. They continue to spread Wahabism, which 1591 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 1: is the most radical interpretation of Islam, and they're spending 1592 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,559 Speaker 1: billions of dollars a year doing it, so they're kind 1593 01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 1: of creating terrorists for us, which you know, I don't 1594 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 1: really appreciate. Uh. And and then the Kuwaitis are actually 1595 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,479 Speaker 1: worse than um than everyone other than the cutteries, and 1596 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,760 Speaker 1: most people don't know this. So and they all have 1597 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,400 Speaker 1: a democracy deficit. Neither none of them are you know, 1598 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 1: are exactly you know, liberal places, uh you know, to 1599 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,600 Speaker 1: to live. So it's a bit of a case of 1600 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of baldmin fighting over a comb. But at the 1601 01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 1: at the at the very least Turkeys involved in this too, right, Well, 1602 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,240 Speaker 1: the Turks have come to the assistance of the cutter cutteries, 1603 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 1: right because they're kind of pro Islamits these days as well. 1604 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,160 Speaker 1: They are, and I would actually say that the Cutteries 1605 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,680 Speaker 1: and the Turks are the pro Muslim brotherhood block uh 1606 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,960 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and so they have they have 1607 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: a strategic alliance, and so the Turks are coming to 1608 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 1: the rescue of the Cutteries. I would actually say that 1609 01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 1: if this thing drags on, the Turks might be dragged 1610 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: into it as well. The airb states might get fed 1611 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,559 Speaker 1: up to uh. Most of these Arab states, when they 1612 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: speak quietly with us, they'll tell us that, uh, you know, 1613 01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,800 Speaker 1: they're the number one threat is Iran, second as Cutter 1614 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 1: and servius Turkey. So uh, it is a full on 1615 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:44,160 Speaker 1: economic war right now. This isolation campaign against against the cutteries, 1616 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,720 Speaker 1: and they are defiant. The Arab States are calling for 1617 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: the closing down of Al Jazeera, which is, you know, 1618 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 1: the flagship television station for for for coats are so uh, 1619 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: it's it's become very nasty. I actually testified before Congress 1620 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,439 Speaker 1: two days ago on this issue. There was a lot 1621 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 1: of interest, a lot of lobbyists who are all weighing 1622 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 1: in on this thing, and that was kind of my 1623 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 1: point about the clash of the of the golf cash. 1624 01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:14,160 Speaker 1: There's so much money splashing around in Washington, uh that 1625 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,160 Speaker 1: is designed to kind of whitewash these Gulf states, and 1626 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,480 Speaker 1: in the end, I think it's actually been very detrimental 1627 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,680 Speaker 1: that we've lost sight of the fact that they are 1628 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 1: harming our national interest. Cutter I think in particular, but 1629 01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: these other countries are not innocent either, and I think 1630 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,439 Speaker 1: that we really need to take a hard look at 1631 01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,719 Speaker 1: at how the lobbyists are operating and how much influence 1632 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,160 Speaker 1: they have, because it's really become I think of a 1633 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,840 Speaker 1: very disturbing phenomenon. Dr Jonathan Schanzer, Foundation for Defensive Democracies. 1634 01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:43,800 Speaker 1: Great to have you, sir, Thanks for coming to hang out. 1635 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan come back soon any conduct. Thanks team, We're going 1636 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,400 Speaker 1: to hit a break and we'll be back with much more. 1637 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Stay with me, Bug, sextend with America. Now are the 1638 01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,240 Speaker 1: Freedom Hut is fired up as team Buck assembles shouldered 1639 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:07,400 Speaker 1: as shoulder shields high call in eight four four Buck. 1640 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: That's eight four four D to eight to five are 1641 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. It is American Heroes Week and we 1642 01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 1: have been spending some time talking about that here on 1643 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: the show. The White House declared it to be a 1644 01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,679 Speaker 1: week to think about, to UH, commemorate and to honor 1645 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 1: the heroes in our midst first responders, police, US military, 1646 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 1: our men and women in uniform. So I wanted to 1647 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,160 Speaker 1: talk to our friend Brandon Webb about what this week 1648 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: means for him and for those that he served with. 1649 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 1: Brandon Webb as a former Navy Seal in combat veteran 1650 01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,360 Speaker 1: with deployments to Afghanistan and iraq Um. He also is 1651 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,360 Speaker 1: a New York Comes bestselling author. He has The Red 1652 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 1: Circle UH to his credit, as well as The Killing 1653 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 1: School and the Power of Thought. But we're going to 1654 01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,160 Speaker 1: talk to him right now about his book Among Heroes. Brandon, 1655 01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 1: great to have you any thanks for having me Buck, 1656 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 1: So it's Heroes Week. According to the White House, you 1657 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,720 Speaker 1: wrote a book about heroes. Um, what what does it 1658 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: mean for you? Brand? I mean when somebody says to 1659 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 1: you you served with heroes, Brandon Webb, and I'm sure 1660 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,800 Speaker 1: they also say to you because it's true, you're a hero. 1661 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think of you as my friend, but 1662 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,240 Speaker 1: you're also a hero. But what does it mean to 1663 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 1: you when when people ask you know what it was 1664 01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 1: like to serve with and be among heroes? As your title? 1665 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 1: As the book title says, the whole reason I wrote 1666 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 1: Among Heroes was to tell the story and honor my 1667 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,880 Speaker 1: friends who gave all. You know, they they gave all 1668 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 1: sin snile. Loving these guys, their stories would not be 1669 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:45,799 Speaker 1: heard if guys um. For instance, my friend Chris Tonto 1670 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,679 Speaker 1: Pronto wrote Thirteen Hours, which also featured my best friend 1671 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,720 Speaker 1: Glenn Doherty who gave his life and Benghazi. So and 1672 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,360 Speaker 1: these stories need to be told. And it's it's one 1673 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,600 Speaker 1: of the reasons I as much as writing is therapeutic, 1674 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:01,519 Speaker 1: I really apreciate the guys that have the courage to 1675 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 1: get out and put pen to paper and write these 1676 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 1: stories and honor their friends and heroes. And that's it 1677 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,760 Speaker 1: was the whole driving purpose behind among heroes for me 1678 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:16,759 Speaker 1: was truly honoring the my friends who gave their lives 1679 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,559 Speaker 1: since NY eleven when I served with them the Seal teams, 1680 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,040 Speaker 1: and to honor them and their families and tell those 1681 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,639 Speaker 1: stories and in a positive way so that the reader 1682 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,200 Speaker 1: could walk away and go, wow, I've got a little 1683 01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,400 Speaker 1: bit of Glenn Doherty inside me, and and I'm a 1684 01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,800 Speaker 1: better person for having read the book you mentioned thirteen Hours. 1685 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:39,120 Speaker 1: We actually had John take Teagan on the show yesterday 1686 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,559 Speaker 1: to talk about about his experience in in Benghazi. I'm 1687 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 1: sure he's someone you've you've spoken to and come across 1688 01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: in the past. Brandon. The one thing that I think 1689 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 1: is so remarkable about guys like John. You mentioned Tonto, 1690 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,920 Speaker 1: Chris Baranto, and you mentioned some other seals that you 1691 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,120 Speaker 1: served with, including seals who lost their lives fighting for 1692 01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 1: the country, is the humility. And this is one thing 1693 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, Brandon. You're a guy who's who's walked the 1694 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,960 Speaker 1: walk and then some. And I've always noticed this about 1695 01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:10,080 Speaker 1: those who who are really out there and really doing it, 1696 01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,439 Speaker 1: they don't they don't flaunt it. There's a humility that 1697 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,719 Speaker 1: comes along. I mean a real operator or somebody who's 1698 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 1: happy doing the mission and knowing what they bring to it, 1699 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 1: knowing what their skill set is, uh and not feeling 1700 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,439 Speaker 1: like they have to walk around and make a big 1701 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 1: deal out of it all the time. There's a humility 1702 01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 1: that I feel like always comes across from these guys, 1703 01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a humility. And you know, guys in in my book 1704 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 1: among Here, I was like Dave Scott. Dave was was 1705 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,360 Speaker 1: an enlisted seal that went on to become an officer 1706 01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: was that Georgetown and wrote a paper about as Bin 1707 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,519 Speaker 1: lad in the eighteen months eighteen months before Night eleven 1708 01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,280 Speaker 1: and his his professor, and his paper was about how 1709 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,560 Speaker 1: the Lattam was coming to rise to the position he 1710 01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:00,920 Speaker 1: was in and how he was planning to attack the Westons. 1711 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 1: Professor practically laughed him out of his class. And eighteen 1712 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 1: months later Dave and I are serving together on Seal 1713 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,320 Speaker 1: Team three and the twin Towers come down. So, I mean, 1714 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 1: there's there's so much complexity um around these these guys, 1715 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,880 Speaker 1: and and we've lost so much since nine eleven in 1716 01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:21,400 Speaker 1: the form of this human capital that I'm just glad 1717 01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm able to capture their stories and and bring their 1718 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,920 Speaker 1: share their lives with with the readers, so that that's 1719 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:30,639 Speaker 1: what it was all about. And I think that we're 1720 01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,679 Speaker 1: speaking of Brandon Webb, by the way, as a former 1721 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,639 Speaker 1: Navy seal author of The Red Circle. Brandon actually designed 1722 01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: the Navy Steel Sniper Course, which is what The Red 1723 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 1: Circles about. He's also a New York Times bestselling author 1724 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,600 Speaker 1: of a few books, including The Killing School, which is 1725 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 1: his latest, The Power of Thought and Total Focus. We're 1726 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 1: talking to about among heroes, Brandon. You know, if when 1727 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,240 Speaker 1: we look at what's going on right now in the country, 1728 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,840 Speaker 1: I think that with this administration, UM, there is a 1729 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 1: renewed focus on first responders, on on police and and 1730 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,920 Speaker 1: at least I'm hearing from people in the military, and 1731 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,560 Speaker 1: I know that this always I don't like to politicize this, 1732 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 1: but that that there's a there's a sense, there's a 1733 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 1: sense that, uh, there's a greater a greater pride from 1734 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,439 Speaker 1: the very top, shall we say, about US military efforts 1735 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,600 Speaker 1: past and present than there has been previously with the 1736 01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:25,280 Speaker 1: previous administration. UM. What do you think about that? And 1737 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 1: do you think it affects people? Absolutely? I mean, you know, 1738 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,160 Speaker 1: people are upset about Trump's administration. He's doing exactly what 1739 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:35,759 Speaker 1: he said he was gonna do. He's going to flip 1740 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,760 Speaker 1: the political table up up on end, and he's doing that. 1741 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:46,120 Speaker 1: He's not running a traditional organization, and I don't see 1742 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 1: why anyone is surprised of what's happening. But as far 1743 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:55,400 Speaker 1: as the military goes, absolutely, the morale of the U. S. 1744 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Military is at a very high level, much higher than 1745 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,760 Speaker 1: it was under the Obama administration. And when you see, 1746 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, the video of the marine I think it 1747 01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:10,560 Speaker 1: was it was the the marine helicopter that flies to 1748 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,760 Speaker 1: President around when one of the Marines standing there had 1749 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,400 Speaker 1: lost his hat and blown off in the wind, and 1750 01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,200 Speaker 1: Trump picks down, grabs the hat and puts it on 1751 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,280 Speaker 1: the on the marines had. I mean that that's just 1752 01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:27,120 Speaker 1: a big difference between you know, the president Trump and Obama. 1753 01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you never see something like that. Every politician 1754 01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 1: knows Brandon as you well know that they have to say, oh, yes, 1755 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 1: I support the troops, so much respect for the troops. 1756 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,400 Speaker 1: But the troops, the troops know what it's pro forma. 1757 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: I think they know when it's really heartfelt. Yeah, yeah, 1758 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 1: And you know, you can say what you want about Trump, 1759 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: but he has this military um. He has a lot 1760 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: of respect for the military, and I think he sees 1761 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,960 Speaker 1: the tremendous sacrifice that the military men and women have 1762 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,519 Speaker 1: made since nine eleven and the fact that they're really 1763 01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 1: being let down on now by the Veterans administration, an 1764 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:07,280 Speaker 1: administration that is rife with fraud, wasted abuse, millions of 1765 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,720 Speaker 1: dollars of waste, you know, a pain management program that 1766 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: turns veterans into victims instead of empowering them. They they 1767 01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 1: they throw pills at them and it's a big reason them. 1768 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,280 Speaker 1: Give a shameless plug for our documentary the guys that 1769 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,720 Speaker 1: I made a documentary called Big Mountain Heroes which comes 1770 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,880 Speaker 1: out in the fall, all about using the outdoors as 1771 01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:33,080 Speaker 1: a form of therapy as as opposed to medication. And 1772 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:35,720 Speaker 1: our motto in the in the movie is where where 1773 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: can people go to see more of that or to 1774 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: see more about that that whole process, Brendan. They can 1775 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:44,680 Speaker 1: go see the trailer to our our indie documentary. It's 1776 01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,639 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Just just go search YouTube for Big Mountain Heroes. 1777 01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 1: The documentary will be out this winner. It's about five 1778 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,160 Speaker 1: special operations that's to go to charge Big Mountain Alps 1779 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:01,719 Speaker 1: ski and snowboard and give these really in depth interviews 1780 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,680 Speaker 1: about their personal transition into the military and how they 1781 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,840 Speaker 1: use sport and sounds great man, I will be there. 1782 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out and everyone else should as well. 1783 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Webb, former Nabcal, author of Among Heroes and my friend. 1784 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Man, great to see you are 1785 01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 1: great talking. I'll see you soon. Thanks for thanks. Team 1786 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: hitting a break, We'll be right back. Well, it was 1787 01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,760 Speaker 1: quite a day of news to him. I'm glad we 1788 01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,560 Speaker 1: got to get through all of it together. I know 1789 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,240 Speaker 1: for a Friday it was it was a lot. Usually 1790 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:30,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I get to roll in on a 1791 01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 1: Friday and kick the feet up on the desk, hang 1792 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:36,559 Speaker 1: out in the hut, and chill with the team here 1793 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,519 Speaker 1: a little bit. Get excepted about the weekend. Today. We 1794 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of ground to cover, and as soon 1795 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:43,320 Speaker 1: as I finish up in here, I get to go 1796 01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: home and prepare for a move. I am moving on Monday. 1797 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 1: Not that this effects the show or my work, so 1798 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm just moving where I live. I'm moving from one 1799 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:59,400 Speaker 1: very overpriced box in New York City to a slightly larger, 1800 01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,679 Speaker 1: but overpriced box in New York City. It did allow me, however, 1801 01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:08,560 Speaker 1: to purchase my first actual couch as an adult. So 1802 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,000 Speaker 1: I realized that I'm thirty five and this is my 1803 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 1: first full I had had. I bought a love seat once, 1804 01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,720 Speaker 1: not because I am so full of love or have 1805 01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,600 Speaker 1: a thing against full sized couches, but I did not 1806 01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,000 Speaker 1: own apartment that had or not own. I did not 1807 01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,519 Speaker 1: rent in an apartment that had the room for it. 1808 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,599 Speaker 1: So I was able to go and get an actual 1809 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 1: couch like a like an adult who has a job 1810 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: and a place for a couch, which was nice. These 1811 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 1: are the things that when you're New York City gets 1812 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: you excited. I know, for the rest of the country 1813 01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 1: you're probably chuckling to yourself, like, really, couches, Oh yeah. Once, 1814 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,840 Speaker 1: once you get a couch in your living space, you're 1815 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,720 Speaker 1: you're you're definitely living, You're definitely approaching adulthood. And once 1816 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,280 Speaker 1: you have a washer dryer that you can call your own, 1817 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,200 Speaker 1: it's it's the American dream. It's the American dream. We 1818 01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:54,880 Speaker 1: we don't have those sorts of things here in New 1819 01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,800 Speaker 1: York City. So those are those are the benchmarks of 1820 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even call it success, just making it to 1821 01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: to adulthood in some capacity. I know for many of 1822 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 1: you it's like having children, sending them off to college, 1823 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,960 Speaker 1: maybe getting a boat if you're into boating or something. 1824 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: In New York it's yeah, if you get a wash 1825 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,719 Speaker 1: or dryer, then you've really managed to accomplish something special 1826 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 1: and fantastic. But it was interesting as well, because you 1827 01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:20,760 Speaker 1: know when you when you get ready to move, and 1828 01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,439 Speaker 1: I've moved a lot of times. I've moved well. I 1829 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:29,080 Speaker 1: think I lived in three different places in Washington, d C. 1830 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,920 Speaker 1: And have lived in four or five different places in 1831 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,600 Speaker 1: New York City. And so that's also one of the 1832 01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: reasons why I've never really had much in the way 1833 01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 1: of stuff. I don't really own a lot um. I've 1834 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,400 Speaker 1: just got a bed and a desk. I've had the 1835 01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:49,679 Speaker 1: same old wooden desk now for I don't know fifteen 1836 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,040 Speaker 1: twenty years I did. I can't remember if I had 1837 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:53,879 Speaker 1: it in college or not, or maybe it's just afterwards. 1838 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,160 Speaker 1: But I've got a tremendous amount of nostalgia attached to 1839 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:02,719 Speaker 1: this old wooden desk, which I should probably either fix 1840 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,479 Speaker 1: or give away. But you know, when you when you move, 1841 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 1: you actually look over your stuff. You see what you 1842 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,120 Speaker 1: have and what you're carrying around in life, because for 1843 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,280 Speaker 1: the first time, you've got to go and I mean, 1844 01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm telling you some things. Here. I've got a corner, 1845 01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:21,160 Speaker 1: for example, where it's and this is in a very 1846 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 1: tight space, but it's just a corner where I stash 1847 01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:26,600 Speaker 1: stuff that I don't know where to put otherwise, you know, 1848 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 1: I just I just have a place where I sort 1849 01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:32,920 Speaker 1: of marked it off and I should probably put bio 1850 01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 1: hazard tape around it or something because it is not well, 1851 01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not organized that there is no method to the madness. 1852 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,680 Speaker 1: It's just Buck's corner of stuff. But I started to 1853 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,560 Speaker 1: go through it, and it's funny what you what you 1854 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,360 Speaker 1: find when you see that when you're like me and 1855 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 1: you have so little space to organize in the first place, 1856 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,920 Speaker 1: you can start to go through things and um, I 1857 01:44:56,600 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 1: come across old keepsakes, things that I picked up abroad. 1858 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 1: Um when I was in the C I a pick 1859 01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,760 Speaker 1: up things from my time working for the n y 1860 01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 1: p D. You know, just the things that you get 1861 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,720 Speaker 1: when you're in a in a marketplace or you're in 1862 01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,880 Speaker 1: a foreign country and you're like, oh, this will be 1863 01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:18,479 Speaker 1: a fun thing to bring home, and you know, like, 1864 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:20,960 Speaker 1: how many It's a fair question to ask, right, how 1865 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:26,080 Speaker 1: many curved daggers and various tribal knives can someone really 1866 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,519 Speaker 1: pick up before they have enough of them? I mean, 1867 01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 1: these are the things that when you move you start 1868 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,560 Speaker 1: to think about. Um. I also found old photographs. I 1869 01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,559 Speaker 1: think it's kind of funny. Maybe some of them will 1870 01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:41,680 Speaker 1: actually take and put on take I guess take a 1871 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,000 Speaker 1: photo of the photograph now with my phone the easiest 1872 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:47,080 Speaker 1: way to do it, and post them because who takes 1873 01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,640 Speaker 1: photographs anymore? And I was in a store and I 1874 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:53,640 Speaker 1: was getting some of the things, uh that you know 1875 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,720 Speaker 1: you need when you're you're moving and getting into a 1876 01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:00,200 Speaker 1: packing tape and boxes, and they were selling pick sure 1877 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:01,760 Speaker 1: frames and I was like, I gotta think that the 1878 01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,920 Speaker 1: picture frame businesses been under a lot of pressure. And 1879 01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,240 Speaker 1: since we all carry around photos with us all the 1880 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,720 Speaker 1: time and we're we're documenting our lives in a way 1881 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,719 Speaker 1: that well, twenty years ago, nobody really could have dreamed 1882 01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 1: of or thought would be where it is now. I mean, 1883 01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 1: between all the social media platforms, you can see now 1884 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,920 Speaker 1: that people's lives exist in this digital realm, whereas in 1885 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,160 Speaker 1: the past, if you had a really great photo. You 1886 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 1: know that there was something if you've got a great 1887 01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,519 Speaker 1: family photo, it was it was like its own little 1888 01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,280 Speaker 1: personal piece of art. You really cherish it. I feel 1889 01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 1: like now everyone's taking such great photos all the time 1890 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:43,400 Speaker 1: because we've got photographic equipment and display display capability ourselves, 1891 01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 1: and and I just thought it was kind of funny. 1892 01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,720 Speaker 1: I was like, so, I guess maybe I could get 1893 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,560 Speaker 1: a picture frame and blow up a photo just to 1894 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,360 Speaker 1: have one in my home. I don't, I think, I 1895 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,760 Speaker 1: don't even I might have two or two or three 1896 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 1: photos that I have up somewhere framed. Uh. You know. 1897 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,519 Speaker 1: The other are things I'm just coming to, coming across 1898 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 1: the various iterations of Apple products. I stashed them in 1899 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,840 Speaker 1: this drawer and I was going through it, and I 1900 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:15,680 Speaker 1: remember getting an iPod and it was the coolest, and 1901 01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't have the I wish I did. They now 1902 01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,200 Speaker 1: go for a lot of money on eBay. Actually, I 1903 01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,799 Speaker 1: don't know if it's for nostalgia purposes or it's because 1904 01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:28,160 Speaker 1: people just really uh like having what is effectively a 1905 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,839 Speaker 1: hard drive exclusively for music, which is what the original iPod, 1906 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,519 Speaker 1: you know, the little wheel on it and everything. I 1907 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 1: think those go for real. They go for like a 1908 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,680 Speaker 1: thousand box maybe more on on eBay. But I I 1909 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,519 Speaker 1: had the iPod shuffle, which was a tiny little thing 1910 01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,120 Speaker 1: that I clipped onto my belt, and I found one 1911 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,000 Speaker 1: of those, and I remember going to the gym and 1912 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was so so cool. Um and it 1913 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,680 Speaker 1: was I was like, I'm gonna be using this for 1914 01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,720 Speaker 1: the rest of my life, you know. Now on the 1915 01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately these days increasingly rare occasion that I get to 1916 01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 1: the gym. I was really good for a while, but 1917 01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,519 Speaker 1: I've I've fallen off in the last months or so. Uh. 1918 01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't listen to music anymore. Actually, I actually like 1919 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,280 Speaker 1: the If I had my way, I might even sure 1920 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,800 Speaker 1: there'd be any music onto the gym. I would just 1921 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 1: have like quiet. Yeah. I know they're looking at me 1922 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,160 Speaker 1: like I'm weird. You can say that's weird. Yeah, I 1923 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:15,920 Speaker 1: know that's a little weird, right, but it's a little 1924 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,880 Speaker 1: zen and trunk whatever. Fine, I agree that's weird. But 1925 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:20,920 Speaker 1: the music they play in the gym, I go, dude, 1926 01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:22,600 Speaker 1: it's like the same CD and I've just heard it 1927 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 1: all so many times and it's not good. Um. Oh. 1928 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,559 Speaker 1: And of course there's like little pieces of exercise equipment 1929 01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,360 Speaker 1: that I've picked up over the years. And when I 1930 01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,920 Speaker 1: mean little, I mean things that you squeeze for wrist strength, like, yeah, 1931 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:35,959 Speaker 1: that's gonna give me a six pack if I squeeze 1932 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 1: this little thing enough, that's you know, grip strengthener. And 1933 01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 1: trying to think of some other fun you know, stretch 1934 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,000 Speaker 1: I've got. I found some stretch bands. I've used those never. 1935 01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,240 Speaker 1: And you don't know about these things. You don't think 1936 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:50,760 Speaker 1: about it until you move, and then all of a 1937 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,400 Speaker 1: sudden you're like where, where where did I How late 1938 01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,759 Speaker 1: at night was it? And how many rounds of tequila 1939 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: had I had when I thought it was a good 1940 01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: idea to buy, like that thing that's supposed to give me, 1941 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, six minute abs or whatever. Look, we've all 1942 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,679 Speaker 1: been there. There's a reason why those guys make millions 1943 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 1: of dollars on those ridiculous infomercials where they're like, yes, 1944 01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,040 Speaker 1: like you two will be a fitness model if you 1945 01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,920 Speaker 1: just buy this piece of plastic made in Taiwan that 1946 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really do anything. Um, but anyway, I've gone through 1947 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 1: some of those, and also of course, you know you see, uh, 1948 01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm at the age now where I have clothing that 1949 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 1: is so old that it really is now a question 1950 01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,280 Speaker 1: is it Is it going to come back into fashion? 1951 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,680 Speaker 1: And like it was kind of cool maybe ten years ago, 1952 01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,519 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, do I hold onto this? You know, 1953 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,040 Speaker 1: will there ever be a time again we're wearing two 1954 01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:38,120 Speaker 1: polo shots and pop two polo shirts rather and popping 1955 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,960 Speaker 1: both the collars. Will that be cool again? And I 1956 01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,720 Speaker 1: think producer Amy is telling me the answer is no, 1957 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 1: that is unlikely to be cool. And I think, actually 1958 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,320 Speaker 1: it was never cool, is what I'm being told. Okay, 1959 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:51,200 Speaker 1: good talk, good talk. But maybe maybe you know, maybe 1960 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 1: shambre shirts will make it come back, you know, you 1961 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,040 Speaker 1: just you don't know, you know know, it's a crazy 1962 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,360 Speaker 1: world that we live in. So anyway, I'm moving and 1963 01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,599 Speaker 1: if I find any really cool mementos, maybe next week 1964 01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,599 Speaker 1: I'll do to like Bucks memento moment and I'll tell 1965 01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:04,920 Speaker 1: you if I find I think it's really funny. Um, 1966 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean I found a photo of me. I mean 1967 01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:08,880 Speaker 1: I had a pet bird for a little while. It 1968 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,760 Speaker 1: was this looks so crazy. It's a crazy Yeah. His 1969 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,640 Speaker 1: name was Ace. Uh, there's some crazy stuff going on 1970 01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,559 Speaker 1: in the world, in the world of buck, So anyway 1971 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,240 Speaker 1: I will, I will leave it there, but I will 1972 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,800 Speaker 1: be on the lookout this weekend for interesting items that 1973 01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:23,880 Speaker 1: have a story attached to them. This is like my 1974 01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,920 Speaker 1: own version of Antique Road Show, except it's just my stuff. 1975 01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,240 Speaker 1: Please do download the podcast. Go to buck Sexton with 1976 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:34,880 Speaker 1: American Out on iTunes. You can also go to buck 1977 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,920 Speaker 1: sexton dot com slash store and you can buy T 1978 01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:42,679 Speaker 1: shirts there, including Shields High, which is a T shirt 1979 01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,240 Speaker 1: that we now offer up on bucks Exton dot com 1980 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,360 Speaker 1: slash store. T shirts haven't flying off the shelves. I 1981 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Well, there's actually no shelves because of 1982 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Amazon Amazon ification of the world that 1983 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:56,639 Speaker 1: we live in now. But you know what I'm saying, 1984 01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,439 Speaker 1: they're they're getting sold. So that's great. Tell a friend 1985 01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:00,680 Speaker 1: about the show if you know a mind. That's the 1986 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 1: way we get the word out here. I Heart app 1987 01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,640 Speaker 1: allows people to listen anywhere across the country. It's a 1988 01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:07,799 Speaker 1: great way to listen. If you've got internet or cell access, 1989 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,640 Speaker 1: you can listen to the I Heart app. I have 1990 01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:11,559 Speaker 1: a feeling we're gonna have a very busy week next 1991 01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,120 Speaker 1: week my friends here in the Freedom Hunt. So until 1992 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 1: then have a great weekend and shield time.