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Speaker 1: Listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Roden, Karen.

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout to

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rod Joiners always.

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Speaker 1: Guest.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is comedian and writer for Nickelodeon's Warp The

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Speaker 1: It's the Next The Next Problem.

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Speaker 2: Area's co host of the yub Nub podcast, which I

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Speaker 2: listened to and now creator of Comedy Central's animated short

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Speaker 2: Maurice on Mars.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? It's my man, Tim Barnes. How you

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Speaker 1: doing man?

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing good. I'm so happy to be here. One question, though.

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Speaker 1: You're married. Yeah, we're married, yep.

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Speaker 5: And you live in the same house, yes, yep, and

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Speaker 5: you're just in two separate rooms.

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Speaker 4: I am trying to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we're in the same room.

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Speaker 4: Just okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I turned my camera, you can see Karen's over there,

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Speaker 2: all right, So I just yeah, just a very professional

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Speaker 2: looking setup, you know. But uh, I mean we when

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Speaker 2: I was in New York, I did have three We

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Speaker 2: did have like two or three months, so we were

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, it didn't.

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Speaker 5: Happen because I don't know if I'm breaking the fourth

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Speaker 5: wall for the people just listening to the podcast, but

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Speaker 5: it's two different mic setups, and so that's what yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And then I was my brain was going, am I

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Speaker 5: am I somehow gaining some details that the listeners don't know.

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Speaker 2: The relationship the nerd the nerd, the nerd motif is

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Speaker 2: what really brings us all together here.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of Star Wars, Mario stuff, Dad,

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Speaker 1: and we.

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Speaker 3: Like picked our own corner.

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Speaker 6: So it's like I made my own background and he

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Speaker 6: made his own background. Every now and then, if I

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Speaker 1: So Tim, it's our first time getting it.

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Speaker 2: Like virtually meet you, but I have listened to the

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Speaker 2: yub nub podcast for a while.

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Speaker 1: You my coworker homie Greg y'all.

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Speaker 2: Do this podcast together with a third person who what's

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Speaker 2: the third guy's name?

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Speaker 5: His name is Jim, Jim Fagan Jim. He's a great

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Speaker 5: comedy writer and producer. Uh. The most difficult thing I

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Speaker 5: think for this podcast is that it's two black hosts,

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Speaker 2: You know what's so funny about that is like there's

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Speaker 2: a level of a woke that people get to where

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Speaker 2: they're like, there's no such thing as sounding black or

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but we all have phones. Like

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Speaker 1: we've all had that awkward moment where we guess the

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Speaker 2: Someone told us that shit and like it's okay, Like yes,

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Speaker 5: But it's a blessing and a curse being a black

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Speaker 2: It's like great, it's great for like when you need

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Speaker 1: But if you talk to my name is Roderick, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the verse of that situation for me, it's

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Speaker 5: I can't switch it up.

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Speaker 4: It's an issue.

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Speaker 5: That's why you know, I'm in therapy now trying to.

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Speaker 6: Figure it's the whole ordeal, because particularly when you have

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Speaker 6: a name like mine, Karen, everybody assumes that I'm white

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Speaker 6: until I walk into the room, because you know, my

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Speaker 2: That's the thing about Roderick too, is like it's another

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Speaker 2: disappointments like you just getting the interviews like I really

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Speaker 2: wish i'd name me like Laquentis or some shit.

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Speaker 1: So we just just rip the band aid off. I'm black.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming in the room everyone, if you're gonna hire

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Speaker 2: me Iron a black person, yeah, and I have to

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Speaker 2: deal with this bullshit otherwise you get the surprise.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, that's the response you get all thought

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Speaker 6: y'all was getting away from me all right?

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Speaker 2: Oh was so Karen? Oh okay, Karen. What are those

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Speaker 2: karens that.

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Speaker 5: Every black person has their given name and then a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, I would love that. I honestly like,

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Speaker 2: I would love like a dope like name that goes

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Speaker 2: all the way back to like the Motherland, because I

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Speaker 2: like like one search algorithms.

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Speaker 1: It's so much better like when I.

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Speaker 2: Meet like I'm jealous now when I meet somebody has

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Speaker 2: I bet you can get to dot com to that.

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Speaker 1: I bet you had the only Instagram with that ship.

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Speaker 1: Like man, man, you lucked out.

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Speaker 2: But you know before I was all like, oh, what

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Speaker 2: a great name, Roderick, I can always get a job,

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Speaker 2: and now it's like, oh god, I should have Now

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Speaker 2: it's all digital work for myself.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was Laquentis man. That ship would be you.

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Speaker 3: You would stand out of money.

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Speaker 1: There's not There's no Laquintas number two on Instagram. There's

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Speaker 2: But TM, how did you get your start in like

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Speaker 1: Was it like on stage? Was it all the way

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I guess that is kind of a tough tough question

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Speaker 5: to answer. It it was on stage, But before that,

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't, by any stretch of the imagination say I

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Speaker 5: was the funniest person in my family. I have like

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Speaker 4: My dad is one of eight kids. All those kids

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Speaker 5: My mom has this big extended family. They know how

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Speaker 5: to crack each other up, they know how to do acteps,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big that's a big thing for skill settoo.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing for me is I'm more a quiet

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Speaker 3: Out loud, and I'm a part of that crew.

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Speaker 2: Like just a collection of the funniest people I know,

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Speaker 2: oh man, he's so funny. But if it's just like

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Speaker 3: Roger is a fly on the wall.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of always been like that, and yeah, I'm

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Speaker 6: like the opposite. I like, take all the energy. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll be here for all the energy and

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Speaker 2: But I think that does help with like being able

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all about finding the right people. And I was, like,

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Speaker 5: I think before I started doing stand up, it was

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Speaker 5: when you start diving into like what's going to happen

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Speaker 5: So I would play with like saying that, like the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that has always been a mainstay of my routine.

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Speaker 5: Is that, like as the introduction to who I am? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So just like I think that's how I developed a

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Speaker 2: And how often were you getting on stage or are

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Speaker 2: you getting on stage?

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Speaker 5: I guess in the pandemic, even in the pandemic, it's

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Speaker 5: not very often, I would say, Actually, like a couple

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Speaker 5: like last week, I had one of the worst sets

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Speaker 1: It's exciting.

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Speaker 4: It's the rush of any emotion.

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Speaker 2: No one's laughing and you're just in your head like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, drama finally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like Darth City is.

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Speaker 1: Finally I have something to talk about.

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Speaker 5: But I got into a good like case, especially because

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know that.

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Speaker 4: I'm in New York.

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Speaker 2: show as opposed to like a eight pm show because

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00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 2: you know that's gonna be full or whatever. And so

450
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, but if you go to those

451
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 2: three pm shows, that's when people are in there fucking.

452
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: I was like, surprisingly, Roy, no one's fucking anymore. I

453
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, but our generation was the last

454
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 2: finger banged generation.

455
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 1: I think the kids now.

456
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: Got FaceTime and shit, it was like, no.

457
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: The kids earning some different shit.

458
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: Now, man, we got TikTok?

459
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 1: So what was what happened with the story?

460
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 5: So do you remember there was a three d owl

461
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: movie called Guardians of the Whool.

462
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Speaker 1: Or yeah yeah, Guardians at the Hool.

463
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

464
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 5: So I was I was tearing tickets and this was

465
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 5: like I feel like I was in the middle of

466
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 5: the week, like.

467
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Speaker 4: Was it a matinee screening?

468
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 5: And I worked at this theater that was like right

469
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 5: across the street from UC Riverside, and uh, the only

470
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 5: two groups of people that went into this theater it

471
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 5: was a nuclear family, a mom, a dad, and a

472
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 5: little kid and a college couple and uh. Movie starts

473
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 5: about twenty minutes in. I get a tap on my shoulder.

474
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 5: It's the mom. She's complaining about a sound she's hearing,

475
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 5: and I kind of I just I probably just like, oh.

476
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: It's maybe it's just a speaker's mable gun.

477
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 5: And she says, no, it's a it's a slurping sound

478
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 5: and said it in a way where it was.

479
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 4: Like, Oh, okay, you.

480
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 6: Don't want to explain to sound mommy, can I have

481
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 6: a surping?

482
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 4: No?

483
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: Baby?

484
00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: That kind of surce.

485
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 5: I go to the manager. The manager says, you just

486
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 5: got to go in there and make it stop. So

487
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 5: I walk in. This is a This was a movie

488
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 5: that was all about the full three D experience, right,

489
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: So everyone's wearing.

490
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 4: Three D glasses.

491
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 5: I see there's the nuclear family sitting the mom's angry

492
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 5: arms crossed. About four rows behind them. At the very

493
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 5: end of the very very back of the theater is

494
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 5: the couple. Where what I think is the couple because

495
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 5: all I see is a guy leaned back with his

496
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 5: three D glasses.

497
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: On really getting full new dimensional experience.

498
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Speaker 1: He was in the four D before, before we had

499
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Speaker 1: forty X, he was in forty.

500
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Speaker 5: So I walk up slowly, another head pops up and

501
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 5: they were so embarrassed. And then I think the mom

502
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 5: really just wanted an opportunity to officially call.

503
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 4: Them out so that she can go in on them.

504
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if you want to, the racial breakdown of

505
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: this is that it was a black family.

506
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 4: And white college students.

507
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's an underrated that's an underrated juxtaposition because

508
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people when they think of

509
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: racism and race, they think of like it's always bad,

510
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: when like the white people are coming down to black people.

511
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: But when black people have the rare chance.

512
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 2: To really go in and from white people for being nasty,

513
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: like that is a big pastime of black people, is

514
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: like finding a nasty white person.

515
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: It was like, whether it just be your shoes on

516
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: the dash of your car.

517
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Fucking like not, you know, the galory for bed, we

518
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: find out you don't watch your legs in the shower

519
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: like that shit is forever.

520
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: So like I know, she was like, let's go.

521
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I'll never.

522
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 5: Think that this couple had the couple could have gone

523
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: through the emergency exit, but instead they did a walk

524
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 5: of shame lobby when all of my coworkers knew what.

525
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: Was just happening.

526
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 5: And uh, for the like, what I try to figure

527
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: out now is who sat where first? Yeah, it doesn't

528
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 5: make total sense to me that the couple sat all

529
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: the way in the back first and then this family

530
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 5: decided to sit only four rows of.

531
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Speaker 1: Them, right. Yeah, Oh that's tough.

532
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: That's tough, I mean because I feel like those are

533
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: the blow job seats in the theater, back in the

534
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: corner or the end of the They.

535
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: Must have been all set.

536
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're like Oh, look, this family's just gonna

537
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: we came here specifically for this task.

538
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that like that's the other thing. I guarantee you.

539
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: They weren't big guardians of the guy.

540
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: Who fans guarantee, like they were just going anything.

541
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Whichever theater had the showing that at blow job o'clock

542
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: was the one they were gonna go in.

543
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: So I was just like, Oh, here we.

544
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: Go, and it's like, Oh, this family's coming in, which

545
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: is the worst, because like that's the other thing. School

546
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: if it would have been like this kid's movie, right,

547
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: Like it's really on the blow Job couple because like

548
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: if you would have went and saw like say.

549
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Super Troopers or something.

550
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Like that, I feel like, well, even if people would

551
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: have been in there and there's like this whole like

552
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: of course.

553
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna get blown in super Yeah, it's gonna be adult.

554
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 1: Yeah like that this is on me, Like I'm for it.

555
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: I move two worlds down and I won't hear slurping

556
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: or even better like the oh the slurpers.

557
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: And the cot mam like is I added.

558
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: I love these questions in here? How loud was the slurping?

559
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if I didn't hear the

560
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 5: slurping when I got.

561
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I imagine I imagine the grapefruit lady. Y'all remember

562
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: the grapefruit lady. That's that's what I imagine was happening,

563
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: because I mean, there's also like a certain level of

564
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: slapping where you would be like, it's inconvenient, but not

565
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: the end of the world. But if it was like

566
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: so loud, you had to stop. Like this woman. I

567
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all have ever seen this video, but

568
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: she's teaching.

569
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: You how to greape fruit that were going to do.

570
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that's enough for me to go get

571
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: an us.

572
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm gonna get a I think I might have

573
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: to get USh. I'm sorry.

574
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like and honestly, like I didn't even

575
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: know those kind of This sounds like it was a

576
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: while ago. I didn't think those kind of blowouts that

577
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: were loud came into styl until like the late two thousand.

578
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it used to be like wiet mom's experience. Yeah, yeah,

579
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 5: but the mom's experience watching this movie like a horror movie,

580
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: and you hear this sound, you're like, huh.

581
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you know, because you know, her first

582
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: thought you know this black woman's first thought was, I

583
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: know I'm not hearing what I say. I'm here, right,

584
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: So you ignored by the first few times, like you

585
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: know how mad she had to be to go to

586
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: the usher because like, I'm the whole because the whole

587
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: process you gotta think about too, is that her husband

588
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: definitely was like, girl, come on ahead and.

589
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: Just watch the movie.

590
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: Like so she got that extra level of and then

591
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: you got the kids asking the questions, what mommy?

592
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 3: So then it stuff like this whole other thing.

593
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Right, He probably rolled his eyes when she got here.

594
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: She go about to bust the people from getting blow

595
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: jobs again.

596
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 5: Why don't we just why don't we just move closer

597
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: to the screen.

598
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm not moving right, it's the principle. I'm not.

599
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: We paid for this seat. You're like, oh god, just

600
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: do it just right.

601
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: We could have moved three rolls down.

602
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 6: But no.

603
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: It's like it's like whenever A Karen decided I was like,

604
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: we the food. I didn't get the food that I

605
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: ordered her something right, Oh yeah, and I try to

606
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: be like cool about it, like.

607
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 3: It's all good.

608
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: I could eat this with blue blue cheese instead of ranch.

609
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: Now it's not what you ordered.

610
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, all right, she's doing the thing.

611
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna shut the fuck up.

612
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, nope, that's not what you are enjoying

613
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: my ranch.

614
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Hope they don't spit in it, and uh, we'll see

615
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: what happens. Oh.

616
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, So that was was that like as you

617
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: were still doing stand up and stuff that you were

618
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: working at this theater, you were back home and just

619
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 2: working at the theater.

620
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 5: That was like in that transition, Like I was working

621
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 5: at the theater before I started doing stand up, and

622
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: I was still working at the theater when they had

623
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 5: started doing stand up at that moment, maybe that was

624
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 5: the moment that was like I gotta get.

625
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: Out of.

626
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: Get out of blow job pund It's time to go.

627
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 1: That is That is definitely a change. That is like

628
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: in the montage of your life. That is the.

629
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: Scene in your Autobiogey movie. It's like, and that's today

630
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: he realized you need to change his life.

631
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: The blowjob day. It changed everything.

632
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I was cruising along and the next

633
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 2: thing you know, people getting blown at my job and

634
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: I gotta break it up. Like I remember when I

635
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: worked at the wide part time to YMCA, and there

636
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: would have this women's zoomba class, and all I was

637
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: was a gym monitor. So basically I helped run the

638
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: list for basketball, make sure people, you know, run the clock,

639
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, make sure people play by the rules.

640
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: And I got a free membership, which is why I

641
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: did it, because I just played basketball for free.

642
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Basically, I was like cool, this is dope. Yep. I

643
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: was already gonna do all this stuff.

644
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: But some days they'd be like, well, on like Tuesday

645
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: and Thursday, women have a zoomba class and we need

646
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: you to come in and be like a monitor for

647
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: the class. And I'm like, I what they have a

648
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: they have an instructor, and they were like no, dudes

649
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: will come yes and hang out by the window, the

650
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: glass and just watch these women. Some will even come

651
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: in and sit down on a bench and not even

652
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: work out.

653
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: Just stare at these uh these women. Normally these are

654
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: like moms and stuff there. It's very weird.

655
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: And so.

656
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: I remember having to go and be that guy, like hey, man,

657
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: so the ladies are a little uncomfortable with you sitting here,

658
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: and you can either participate in the class, so.

659
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: You can you have to keep it moving. They're like

660
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: what and they all do the like are we not

661
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: a nation of laws? You know, like they all turn

662
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: into fucking.

663
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: They turned to Roman senators and ship all of a sudden,

664
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: and I'm like, bro, just just you're looking at but

665
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: just please, for the love of God, move on.

666
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: And a couple of times, uh, I'm there's a woman

667
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: behind glass.

668
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: It seems like open.

669
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Opportunity, just far pulling out dollars.

670
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: There's a taco bell near me where they have it

671
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 5: makes no sense. There's like a Chipotle set up where

672
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 5: you can see all the employees making yeah bell all

673
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: the all the employees are usually women here, and I

674
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: tell you how often.

675
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: Just some creepy dudes yeah, standing outside like touching the

676
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: glass like a prison movie. And then you're like a

677
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: couple of times I had to go get the police officer,

678
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: which is like crazy, but that's the level of entitlement

679
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: because it'd be like, hey, man, I already warned you once,

680
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: but like, can you please they're saying that you need

681
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: to move out, and this is my job and it's

682
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: embarrassing for me to have to tell you this because

683
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I would think a grown man would know better, But okay,

684
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: you don't, could you just please move outside or keep moving?

685
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't I pay my membership. I don't

686
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: have to do all right, Well, I'll just see what

687
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: the officer sayss like and now you got a cop

688
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: tailing somebody just to stop looking at butts.

689
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: It was the craziest thing.

690
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: And I just remember thinking like, man, I don't know

691
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: that the money's worth it. Maybe I should pay to

692
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: play basketball. This ship is embarrassing to me at this point.

693
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: And they loved me up there, like because I would

694
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: actually do the job, and like, after all the women

695
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: in the class like, thank you so much you were

696
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: doing they such a good job. These other guys come

697
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: here and they don't kick anyone.

698
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Out, blah blah blah. And I'm like, yeah, I know,

699
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: it's just just fucking sucks.

700
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: Yes, because the thing about it, at one period of time,

701
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 6: they would just put black whenever they had the class,

702
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 6: they would actually put this black plastic or paper over

703
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 6: the door so the dudes couldn't actually sit there and stare.

704
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 6: I remember one time it was similar. I was in

705
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 6: the Zuba class. And because the way this class goes,

706
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 6: you have the bottom is two levels. So you have

707
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 6: the bottom level where the women would be like on

708
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 6: the floor, and then you have a level above us

709
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 6: whe'ld be like exercise equipment and like the thing you

710
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 6: walk around and all that stuff. So what was happening

711
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: which I didn't see it, but I was a dude

712
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: on an upper level that was actually up there with

713
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: binoculars on. I guess some of the women found out

714
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 6: he was doing that and went and told the instructor,

715
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: so literally instructor literally had to stop the entire class.

716
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 6: It was like, we got to stop the class now,

717
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 6: and the officers had to come and basically escort him

718
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 6: away because he was just determined.

719
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: Who was like, dude, you got binoculars on and and

720
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: and let me tell you this, I don't.

721
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 6: And what's so weird is that if you participated in

722
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: the class, you could stay all the ass you won't.

723
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they understand that. Like if we're.

724
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: Doing yoga, whatever we're doing, if you would just participate

725
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: in the class, you could get a whole apple and

726
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 6: nobody would have a problem because you're participating the promise.

727
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 6: When you're not participating and you just want to.

728
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: Stay, well, see, the thing is if you participate, Caroll,

729
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: then you're gay.

730
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

731
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: That's how they think. Those dudes are very much like

732
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: heatero whatever. So it's like, I don't want to do

733
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: no gay zoomer shit. I just want to buy binoculars

734
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: and stare at ladies like like wed.

735
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 5: And then there would be guys who were in there

736
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Speaker 5: and do the rock aware.

737
00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: They weren't.

738
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: There would be occasionally there would be like super cool,

739
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: chill kids like no, maybe younger dudes who would just

740
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I can do the class because it's

741
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: low key. That was like there's two groups. There's the

742
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: weirdos that were normally older dudes that under stare dudes,

743
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: but there were young people that wanted to be like,

744
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: isn't okay if I want a room full of women

745
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: that I want to do the classes And they'd be like, yeah,

746
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: y'all can go do the class, and they're like, oh,

747
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I got sign up, and others like nah, and they

748
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: be up in there getting it to the motherfucking like

749
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: Beyonce they do.

750
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: And we'd be having a ball. Because of the thing.

751
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: You want the women to feel safe. The creeps don't

752
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: make you feel safe. Yeah, but yeah, it's the YMC

753
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: a Christian and they were still doing that.

754
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: So so blow blow.

755
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: Job day happens and you're like, I gotta change your life.

756
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here.

757
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: What's what's the next steps to Like, like, how'd you

758
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: get it? Get out of that situation?

759
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah?

760
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: So, Uh, my friend Ian and I we kind of

761
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 5: just planned to move to Chicago. I had saved maybe

762
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: just like just about three thousand dollars.

763
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: We flew there, no game plan.

764
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: Uh, we like lucked into just like do the magic

765
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 5: of Craigslist finding some places in time for us.

766
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: When we got there.

767
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 5: I think my first job was at the California Pizza

768
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: Kitchen in downtown Chicago as a host. So that was

769
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: my you know, California Pizza Kitchen host by night by day,

770
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: stand up comic by night.

771
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: That kind of did you put that you blake?

772
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: Did you have to put up put did you break

773
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: up blow jobs on your resume?

774
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Was that like a skill? They're like, oh, you know what,

775
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: that happens.

776
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: A lot here high you hih, it's pizza yet people

777
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 6: lights of pizza.

778
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: People are like hosts their restaurants. That's a tough job.

779
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: Basically.

780
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: Politicians, Yeah, they got to keep all the servers happy.

781
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: And they don't get tips, even though they do get

782
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: minimum wage in a lot. So like for at least

783
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, I know, like I was getting like

784
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: two fifteen as a waiter, but did tips. Hopefully you

785
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: make enough tips to make up to minimum wage at

786
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: minimum Yeah, and then the server, I mean the host

787
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: gets like minimum wage of not more, but they deal

788
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: with so much shit.

789
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

790
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: Man, it's like any any waiter that's not happy, any

791
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: customer is not happy. Like it's just come come do this,

792
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: come change this, do your You gotta.

793
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: Do everything, almost like a runner.

794
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, even further to go food, they used to have

795
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: to like put out a to go food together. They

796
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: don't get a tip on that. It was it was

797
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: such a weird type of job to have.

798
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to you know, casually take someone into a

799
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: seat that you know no one wants.

800
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: That's the toughest part.

801
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: Casually walking a couple to a seat right next to

802
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 5: the bathroom. Yeah yeah, just walking away fast enough before

803
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: they can process they don't want.

804
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, you want to be here real quick by yeh yeh.

805
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 6: And And the thing because me and Roger both works

806
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: at a restaurant, and maybe this is just me.

807
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: One thing that irks me.

808
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 6: If we go into a restaurant and this absolutely positively empty.

809
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: It might be.

810
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: Three tables in there. Why do you set me beside

811
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: another table?

812
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: Like? And I will tell them, can you set me

813
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: anywhere else? They look at me like I'm crazy.

814
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, this whole big ass restaurant and you plopped

815
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 6: those right beside the other couple.

816
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: Come on now, Yeah, it's big. It's big, like using

817
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: a urineo next to somebody's energy.

818
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 6: Right, it's like, I want to be able to talk

819
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: and breathing. One thing about restaurants too, and I know

820
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 6: that I feel bad for the hostesses.

821
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: Restaurants be trying to save space.

822
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 6: They probably have gotten better at coronavirus, but at one

823
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 6: period of the time they used to make this.

824
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: The place is so tight that if you.

825
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 6: Bumped your being, your elbow, you were bumping on somebody.

826
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 6: You couldn't have a full conversation. I was like, who

827
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 6: made these tables so close together that if I stand up,

828
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 6: my butt is bumping into their heads?

829
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're doing stand up?

830
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: And is this when you start getting into like like

831
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: writing and so many package and stuff like that.

832
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: How did you learn about that?

833
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

834
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, my my, I'm gonna try and fast forward through

835
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: my path because it's like long and winding.

836
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: But I was, I mean, you've been working for a minute.

837
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Like I looked on your IMDb, like at least its

838
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, Like that's that's a hell of a that's

839
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: a hell of a history.

840
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Man, it's at least ten years in the game.

841
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the first Uh there's so I

842
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 5: was doing a lot of a lot of stand up. Okay,

843
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: what I knew about Chicago at the time was like

844
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: stand like improut, stand up and WB easy. Like I

845
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: was listening to this stuff like this American life. So

846
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 5: I was excited to uh to and I was I

847
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 5: was young, younger, so I was excited to have this

848
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: feeling of like going out into the world, trying to

849
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 5: ingrain myself in a new city, you know, trying to

850
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: be the It almost sounds like I was trying to

851
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: be like the comedy Barack Obama, like what Barack Obama.

852
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 4: Did and he got the Chicago.

853
00:38:53,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, just trying to grassroots community organ and that's kind

854
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: of what I did. Like I made a lot of

855
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: friends and I made this a lot of like amazing

856
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: connections with people who just like are really a part

857
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: of Chicago, and I ended up like early on there

858
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: someone recommended that I like start volunteering as a way

859
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 5: to like feel.

860
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: Involved with the world of Chicago.

861
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: And also when you're volunteering, you often get a lot

862
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: of free food for these events you're volunteering.

863
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: At, so that was also a win win.

864
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: So I started volunteering doing stand up. My volunteering kind

865
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 5: of led me to start volunteering for the WBEZ radio station,

866
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 5: and so that coincided into like a sort of point

867
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 5: that kind of connects to everything where there's this comedian

868
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 5: Brian Babylon, who.

869
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: Is from Chicago.

870
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 5: He's a freaking guest on Weight Wait don't tell me, uh,

871
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 5: and he had a more he coasted a morning radio

872
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 5: show at this radio station called Vocalo that is the

873
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 5: sister station to wb EASY, And so he would always

874
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 5: see me at volunteering at public radio events, but then

875
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: also always see me at these comedy shows, to the

876
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: point that one day he just walked up to me

877
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: was like, who the hell are you, Like, what's your

878
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: Are you stalking me?

879
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: That kind of thing.

880
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: I was just telling him like, these are these are

881
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 5: my interests and that's why I like, you know, And

882
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: so he really got me my first like real entry

883
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: into the world of media. He like very quickly made

884
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 5: it so that I could be an intern and for

885
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 5: his radio show, and so that was a big step.

886
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 5: And at that time I was working at at Dunkin Donuts,

887
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: and I was so excited to have this sort of

888
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 5: official path open up that I quit my job at

889
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 5: the Duncan Donuts for this unpaid internship. And I really

890
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 5: have blacked out out in terms of like how I

891
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: survived in that in that period, but everything from then

892
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 5: on kind of gave me this like path of.

893
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 4: Like doing stand up.

894
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 5: It's also like behind the scenes, if you had been

895
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 5: if you had.

896
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: Been like getting ship about your voice up until that point,

897
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: it's also like, well, this is the one area where.

898
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, that's a good NBR voice, you know

899
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: what I mean.

900
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's to me, like, well listen, I know,

901
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what they'd be saying it around Englewood,

902
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: but fuck that shit, we gotta figure out way to

903
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: get you on the mic.

904
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 6: Yes, And it got to be more than Welcome to

905
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 6: Dunkin Donuts.

906
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so ultimately it was just like I had

907
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 5: that internship that led to a podcast internship that WBZ

908
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: and this podcast that I had started just like as

909
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: an experiment. I was editing it in my friend's basement

910
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 5: because he had the only like computer that wouldn't crash

911
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: shafter fifteen seconds. I had been working on making that

912
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: it was this podcast.

913
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: It's all true. The head of the podcast.

914
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: Department at WBZ like that was a part of my

915
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: interview for that internship. He liked it, and so there

916
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 5: was this point where that podcast was a part of

917
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: the WBEAS podcast network. And so I had this like

918
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 5: from that internship, this wb easy email and I would

919
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: try and like get like comedians who are coming in

920
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 5: town to be on it. So I interviewed Wyatt Sanak

921
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 5: in Chicago. I interviewed Harry Kondobolu in Chicago. I interviewed

922
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 5: people like Eddie Izard through this like weird connection of that,

923
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 5: and by the time I came to New York, some

924
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: of those connections from just like recording those podcast episodes

925
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: came in handy because.

926
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: One of my early.

927
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: Podcast producing jobs in New York was producing this part

928
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 5: of season two of this podcast called Politically Reactive that

929
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 5: w kmal Bell and Harry Kundobolu co host, and so

930
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: Harry remembered me from Chicago and recommended me for this job.

931
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: So that was great.

932
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: And then when there was that when Wyatts and act

933
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 5: was starting his HBO show, I think, you know, a

934
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 5: part of him already knowing me from this random interview

935
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: in Chicago a couple of.

936
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 4: Years prior also helped.

937
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: And so it's just it's just been a series of

938
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 5: weird connections like that. And I used to feel very

939
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: caught in between, like this feeling of like none of

940
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: the stand up comedians really think of me as a

941
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: as a stand up and then also like you know,

942
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm a producer but not really a producer,

943
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: Like I was always like like half way in and out.

944
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: Of these of these two worlds. But as soon as.

945
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: I really started, I got my first staff writing job

946
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 5: and kind of have kept writing in television.

947
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: All those like skills you get from video.

948
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: Editing, audio editing, you know, having to get notes to

949
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: people producing talent you know, comes in handy when you're

950
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 5: writing for a late night show, Like it's not just

951
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: being funny. It's a lot of like like kind of

952
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 5: like boring, basic, basic work very often, and I had

953
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: gotten used to that, and so now I'm like very

954
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 5: happy that I've had the path that I did.

955
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: But I think you threw it.

956
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: Also, the fact that they thought of you favorably and

957
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: were like, oh, he would be good for this is

958
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: a skill in itself, you know what I mean, Because like,

959
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: there there's a I don't know, and especially in entertainment,

960
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: there's this idea of like, well, some people are so

961
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: good you just had to tolerate that they're a piece

962
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: of shit towards you, like, and it's like, I guess.

963
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: There's people that believe that.

964
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: But for me, I know that if I was starting something,

965
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pick the people that were assholes but

966
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: so talented. I'm gonna be like, no, I want to

967
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: work with people and have a fun time because I'm

968
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: gonna be here all day, right, And I think, you know,

969
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: it helps that people you know thought of you and went,

970
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: oh yeah, damn, let's get them all here.

971
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

972
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's just so funny how this uh, this

973
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: industry works too. Like when I when I think about

974
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 5: certain things like uh, early on to me moving to

975
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: New York, I think uh z Way reached out to

976
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: me like do you want to co host a stand

977
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 5: up show? And now I think about that, like we

978
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 5: used to co host this like stand up show, and

979
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 5: it's like insane how much your career has skyrocketed and

980
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: it's like beautiful to see. So it's it's yeah, yeah,

981
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: it's all about just like connections. And I don't know,

982
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm just saying, you know, random words

983
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 5: at this point.

984
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I mean it's like when people ask

985
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: us about advice for podcasts and then we have to

986
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: be like, all right, so I'm gonna tell you something

987
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: you are you know, Like I'm like, like it might

988
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: be something magical here.

989
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than likely you don't want to hear it

990
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: and you.

991
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: Don't want to end or you don't want to do it.

992
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably don't want to hear to do it.

993
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: But this is this is the thing. It's it's it's

994
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: it's the advice you already know. And and and then I

995
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: also think like in that in the entertainment game, it's healthy,

996
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: but it's probably hard for people to be able to

997
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 2: root for other people because it's pitched as a meritocracy,

998
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: which is not. There's also like a scarcity thing because

999
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: it's only so many opportunities at so many places, even

1000
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: though opportunities have really opened up a lot because everyone, yeah,

1001
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: people can do more stuff on their own. But also

1002
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: there's just like a ton of competition with all these

1003
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: streaming services and shit, like they're just buying up all

1004
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: the content. They might not be as committed as they

1005
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: used to be the other stuff, but like they'll give

1006
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: you a shot.

1007
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: When they used to just be like.

1008
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Man, fuck you w don't like come back with a

1009
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: famous person. Now they're like, listen, we got a fourth

1010
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: quarter spending expenditures are down.

1011
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: You know, they just ub a bunch of shit.

1012
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 2: But it is I think it's healthy to be able

1013
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 2: to like see somebody have success and be like, yo,

1014
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: that's dope for her, as opposed to like, because I

1015
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: think there's a ton of Communians that would.

1016
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: Have been like but why wasn't it me?

1017
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: A lot of people have.

1018
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 5: What is like middle child syndrome with the industry, and

1019
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 5: I've never understood that, Like, uh, I don't know. That's

1020
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: that's always like the sort of scary part of it

1021
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: to me anyway, like the schmoozing and trying to get

1022
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 5: a booker to like you and then trying to get

1023
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: you know, you know, a network exec to like you

1024
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: in a particular way. I try to avoid thinking about

1025
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: that sometimes to my detriment, maybe because I really try

1026
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 5: to as an equalizing tactic not know what people do. Ever,

1027
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: so I try and treat people well with that without

1028
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 5: ever knowing what anyone does. I try and equally treat

1029
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: everyone very well. Yeah, And I think, but having that

1030
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 5: extra details just make me so anxious and heroids.

1031
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 4: So I just don't want to know what you do.

1032
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: The thing for me that I think it's interesting is

1033
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 2: because I want to know what everyone does, right, because

1034
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: the way the way I look at it is and

1035
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: it's not even for smoozing, right, because I'm just trying

1036
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 2: to learn to be honest, Like I don't have enough.

1037
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: Let I don't have enough experience to be like I

1038
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: got it, Like I really be like, so.

1039
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: What do you do?

1040
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 2: And I'll sit down and talk to anybody about what

1041
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: they do. But the funniest part is it's the people

1042
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: that people look over overlook that.

1043
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: Can fuck it all up.

1044
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Like it's like for executive producer, somebody might decide if

1045
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 2: you get a season two, which is obviously a major thing,

1046
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: or you know, like or like whoever the executive is

1047
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: over at the company, like they decide.

1048
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: If they're going to pick you up and all that

1049
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: that that matters.

1050
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: But like a bad line producers everything, like you won't have.

1051
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: To worry about it getting into a decision. You know

1052
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you just got.

1053
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers that the cameraman is is ship, like you just

1054
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: fuck from jump.

1055
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 3: A bad pa all of a sudden, don't get done.

1056
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was talking to like everybody.

1057
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 5: That exact Like if you like, if the execs assistant

1058
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 5: you're mean to them or something, then right next to

1059
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 5: that person's ears, they can.

1060
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Say exactly yeah.

1061
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: So that's like, so like I don't I just treat

1062
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: everybody nice as a baseline just just just because of that,

1063
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: But like, uh yeah, like I at the same time,

1064
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: I know you're right that it may have even hurt

1065
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: opportunities because I'm not schmoozing, like like you know what

1066
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like an executive doesn't come in and I'm.

1067
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: Like, oh, what's up, Jane girl, what you're doing.

1068
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: Over here, Like I'm just like that's jam's that I

1069
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: have anything to.

1070
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: Do with it.

1071
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1072
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of the same way because I really

1073
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: hate that shift in a room or it's just you're

1074
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 5: just comedians hanging out and then an important person walks

1075
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 5: in and you can feel it's like the one ring

1076
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 5: of power and the rings you can feel.

1077
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: Man, that was a thing that was a we were

1078
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: writing a sketch and we didn't get like notes on

1079
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: the sketch, but we got like suggestions and it was like, Yo,

1080
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: this person kind of with like like they want to

1081
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: see if y'all can work these jokes in, and like

1082
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 2: we're racking our brains.

1083
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I guess we could say it this way,

1084
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: or I mean this is important.

1085
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: And then we get to the like the end of

1086
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: the process and now and our sketch is like a

1087
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: little too long, so you got to cut some stuff

1088
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: and like we're just going around circles and finally out

1089
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: just look at Tommy, like we just got to cut

1090
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: them jokes.

1091
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: Man, Like.

1092
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: Look our shit hotter than that, and like like if

1093
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: they're mad at us about that, then it's like they're

1094
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: mad at us for doing our job, But our job is.

1095
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: It gives them the hottest ship possible.

1096
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: And then when we gave it to him, they were like,

1097
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: oh no, this is perfect, Like it's fine. They weren't

1098
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: even that pressed about if y'all use it or not.

1099
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad because I was in my head

1100
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: about like, this person has a big name, you gotta

1101
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: put it in there, and they're like, no, man, if

1102
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: it's what happens is what's best is if we have

1103
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: a good show, right, So how'd you get go from

1104
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 2: there to getting on Fallon?

1105
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: Like writing for own Fallon?

1106
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and New York was really.

1107
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 5: Like I got a manager when I was in New

1108
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 5: York and I started writing a bunch of packets. I

1109
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: think the path to Fallon was so I was a

1110
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 5: web producer in season one of Why It's an X Show.

1111
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 5: And then the next job for me was as a

1112
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: digital writer at Comedy Central. So I was writing, and

1113
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 5: this was like the big step for me because I

1114
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 5: think what they essentially wanted was a hybrid person, someone

1115
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: who could write but also edit and produce and stuff

1116
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 5: like that. But when I interviewed for this, and you know,

1117
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 5: I had sent some stuff I had written before and

1118
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: all that. I really suggested that all I can do

1119
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 5: is write, Like, I don't.

1120
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: Know how to edit audio.

1121
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: I don't like That's kind of what.

1122
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: I was presenting.

1123
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: And so I got hired as just a digital writer,

1124
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: which was a huge step for me because I was like,

1125
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 5: I want to move into writing, especially writing for television,

1126
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 5: and if I keep all of this production stuff on

1127
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 5: my resume, it's going to be a long journey for

1128
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: me to get there. So when I got to Comedy Central,

1129
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 5: I was just a writer, and I was so grateful

1130
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 5: that I was in this cubicle that just had a

1131
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 5: Dell computer that didn't have any software. Literally, all I

1132
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: could do on this thing was right, and I wrote

1133
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 5: more than I needed to. I wrote more than could

1134
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 5: possibly be produced, and so I was just very excited

1135
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 5: to have things that I could say that I pitched

1136
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: and wrote getting produced and going onto Comedy Central's YouTube,

1137
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 5: an official comedy brand and stuff like that. So and

1138
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: I think I was there for about like a year

1139
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 5: and a half, maybe two years. And when my manager

1140
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 5: heard about this like that, all that, the reboot of

1141
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 5: all that, was looking for writers. It was incredibly helpful

1142
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 5: to one have this like sort of path that I

1143
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 5: had of like being a web producer for an HBO show,

1144
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 5: now being a digital writer at Comedy Central, and then

1145
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 5: being able to send a bunch of produced comedy sketches

1146
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 5: that I had written, so that it's just a click

1147
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 5: of a button just to watch this and be like, oh, yeah,

1148
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 5: let's give this guy an interview.

1149
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: It was just a phone interview I had done.

1150
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 5: I had gone through cycles of this before, just like

1151
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 5: doing an interview, nothing happens. You write a packet, nothing happens.

1152
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure what to expect, but I thought that

1153
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: that was like one of the best conversations I'd ever

1154
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 5: had in an interview, and I was lucky that they

1155
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 5: wanted to bring me on. And I you know, had

1156
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 5: to a couple like a week or so after that,

1157
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 5: had to fly from New York to LA to write

1158
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: for All That, which is a sketch show that like

1159
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 5: I loved them. Yeah, I'm honored that All That is

1160
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: my first official TV writing credit.

1161
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Now, did this mean that you had to join the

1162
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: Writers Guild and all that stuff? Like, was this like

1163
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: was the digital stuff writers Guild stuff, or was it

1164
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: like this was your first like actual Writers Guild job?

1165
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: This was my first Writers Guild job.

1166
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, the digital stuff wasn't and it's uh and so yeah,

1167
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 5: I was there for for six months. I knew that

1168
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: I wanted to stay at Stay New York, so I

1169
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 5: was like, can we talk to like, can we find

1170
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 5: anything in New York? And h I don't know exactly,

1171
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 5: but I know that at some point my manager had

1172
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: set up just like a meeting with me and some

1173
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: of the producers at the Tonight show and that and

1174
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 5: that meeting was in was in l a And it

1175
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 5: went well, it actually went in a way. It was like,

1176
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1177
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm thirty. I must have been thirty.

1178
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: Then, and I and you see how I am. You

1179
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: see how I talk, and I seem like an old man.

1180
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 4: Trapped in a body.

1181
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 5: And I was just like, the tight show seems very youthful.

1182
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 5: I am having fun. So I didn't know if I

1183
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 5: presented a youthful, uh, youthful glow, but it.

1184
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: Was the same thing.

1185
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 5: I think it was like having seen some sketches I

1186
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 5: had made, knowing that I've been writing sketch at all

1187
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 5: that And I don't know if they looked at some

1188
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 5: of my old packets or not. But they brought me on.

1189
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: And this was right before the pandemic. This was before

1190
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 5: anyone was talking too much about the coronavirus, right, And

1191
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: so I knew that I was stolen all that, and

1192
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: I was going to move go to New York and

1193
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 5: start writing for the Tonight Show as soon as that

1194
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 5: season wrapped.

1195
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 4: And then I was still writing at all that.

1196
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: When the when like the day that everyone like it

1197
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 5: was real all of a sudden in America. Uh, and

1198
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 5: we were everyone like remember we were writing a sketch

1199
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: and like in the room like group writing a sketch,

1200
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 5: Like every five seconds, we were getting texts and like

1201
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 5: these like rumors like this rumor that New York's gonna

1202
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,479
Speaker 5: go in lockdown and not gonna let anybody in or out.

1203
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, my next job is in

1204
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 5: New York. My girlfriend's in New York. I don't know

1205
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 5: how bad this pandemic's gonna be. Like maybe, like this

1206
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 5: the Night Shows, I'm gonna be the only person and

1207
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 5: like with my parents and my family working, like maybe

1208
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: I need to go to New York so I can

1209
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 5: make enough money to send to my parents. Like I

1210
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 5: have no idea what this reality is. So that that night.

1211
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 5: I flew like I flew to back to New York

1212
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: that day because no one knew what the state of

1213
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 5: anything was. And then so I started writing for the

1214
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 5: Tonight Show when it was in Jimmy's house and then

1215
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 5: I and I worked there for a year and a half,

1216
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: all from my apartment. Never step foot in thirty Rock

1217
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 5: for the show. Never met Jimmy in person, even though

1218
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 5: I've been in sketches with him, Never met you know,

1219
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 5: like ninety eight percent of my co workers.

1220
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: It is a very twilight Zone late night.

1221
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody boxes like the Brady Butch.

1222
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody went remote, man, And it is an interesting

1223
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: time to be going remote and not.

1224
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Being able to see people and stuff.

1225
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: And then like what is the working like, what's the

1226
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 2: flow like for a late night show? Like how much

1227
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: are you required to write every day? Or you know,

1228
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: is it an everyday thing?

1229
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's an everyday thing.

1230
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: It's I feel like It's night show more than every

1231
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: other late night show has to be the most hectic

1232
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 5: because like Colbert is mainly just interviewing people. There's not

1233
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 5: a bunch of games for every guest or anything like that.

1234
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 5: For the Tonight Show, it's like constantly specific things, uh changing.

1235
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: Well not just that, but like Jimmy Fallon is like

1236
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: a variety shama like yeah, like yeah, like like like

1237
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: Tim is saying like, you know, Colbert is gonna be

1238
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: like an interview, you know, maybe musical actcetera.

1239
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: This this ship is like Jimmy Fallon be like, all.

1240
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: Right, god, we got the water goes, We're gonna point

1241
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: water like the.

1242
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,479
Speaker 3: What is happening here?

1243
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 4: It's a lot.

1244
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: It's it's like come on out class.

1245
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 5: Basically, it's like split between monologue writers and sketchwriters. I

1246
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 5: was a sketch writer, and sketch writing is like for

1247
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: this night show, it's like writing. But also it almost

1248
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 5: was like fifty to fifty writing and producing. So you

1249
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 5: either like if you pitch something that uh that gets

1250
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 5: the green light to go on the show, you're in

1251
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 5: charge of of making sure that everything happens. Or sometimes

1252
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 5: like that's something will get handed to you and you're

1253
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 5: in charge of it. So it's like my favorite example

1254
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 5: is I had there's always you know, a document where

1255
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 5: you're like pitching I for a guest and is like

1256
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 5: cutoff times and everyone's like this is I was like

1257
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: right in like a minute. I had to write this,

1258
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: uh before the cutoff time, an idea for a game

1259
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: because Seth Rogan had that pickle movie coming out. I

1260
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: think it's called an American Pickle. So it's like, okay,

1261
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 5: Seth Rogan pickles Jimmy game. They play a game called

1262
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: the Pickle Juice Challenge. They asked each other pickle related

1263
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 5: trivia and then whoever gets wrong has to take a

1264
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 5: shot of pickle drips. And I wrote this is like

1265
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 5: this is yeah, just like I'm just you know, that's

1266
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: always when the best ideas come.

1267
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: I got picked.

1268
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 5: I am this idea that I wrote in a whim,

1269
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 5: like okay, now I am producing the Pickle Juice Challenge.

1270
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 5: After rite pickle trivia, I have to talk to the

1271
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: graphics peeple about what the pickle points are going to

1272
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 5: look like. This is when it like the you know,

1273
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 5: it was on it was on Zoom, but at the

1274
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 5: studio at this point.

1275
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, all the logistics of that you have to figure.

1276
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: We have to talk to some production people how we're

1277
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 5: gonna ship a jar of pickles to Seth Rogen so

1278
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 5: that he stuff like that, which and all for my

1279
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: apartment by the way, So that's right. It was like

1280
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 5: it and then I know the game, but there's not

1281
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 5: a studio audience there. So at the end you're like,

1282
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 5: I did all this work so that two people could

1283
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: have fun.

1284
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 4: Hie.

1285
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like it because like at that when there's

1286
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: no audience, you're like, I hope it's funny.

1287
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because they.

1288
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 2: Had fun, Like what's the Yeah, our first episode of

1289
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: Gate there we had no studio audience, and I mean

1290
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: I wrote a lot of that episode and I was

1291
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: so proud of it, and you know, my friends and

1292
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: stuff were like, oh, watch it is great. But then

1293
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: when we had a studio audience, we like because as

1294
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: we were doing the show, we started knowing how to do

1295
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: a show.

1296
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: And so like five six episodes in, I.

1297
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: Remember Vo came and it was like, dude, can you

1298
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 2: imagine we knew what we were doing week one, Like

1299
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: this shit was like I was like, man, the audience

1300
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: would have killed that dude, sketch would have killed And

1301
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 2: it was like like in hindsight, you know, and then

1302
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: the pandemic you have to make decisions like that, like

1303
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny to us in the room, it's

1304
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: funny us as writer, it's funny to the host possibly,

1305
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: and and and then just and then you're involving seth Rogen.

1306
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: So now you got like it's kind of a wild card.

1307
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna be good. And uh, those are like proud moments.

1308
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: I know. We wrote a sketch where it was uh,

1309
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: the the Street Masters or whatever. It was like people playing.

1310
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: Golf in the streets, and it was me and Sidney

1311
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: like like they just kind of presented this like rough

1312
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: outline of like this kind of way we want to think,

1313
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: this is how I think the sketch would go. And

1314
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: then we were both like in the room with just

1315
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: like fifteen minutes like nah, and then we changed this

1316
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: and then all right, we got this will be a

1317
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: good idea, and you know we were cracking it like

1318
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: real tears coming out of I.

1319
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, this is funny.

1320
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: And then we hand it in and you're just and

1321
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: there's this moment like I hope they think it's funny,

1322
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, And when you have like a hole that

1323
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: you know, when you have producers all this stuff, it's

1324
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 2: like you hand it into somebody, they don't it doesn't

1325
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: matter if they think it's funny. Yeah, So like they're like,

1326
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: oh it's good, cool, thanks man, and we'll see what

1327
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: they think. And then they go filming and stuff and

1328
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: that was like I think the first time I got

1329
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Speaker 2: the right like.

1330
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: A sketch and it was like they loved it.

1331
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Speaker 2: Oh god, but it was so funny they and I'm like,

1332
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: all right, well, we'll see you in the edit.

1333
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: They didn't change anything, like they just killed it.

1334
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then someone in the chat is asking

1335
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: you what does producing actually mean?

1336
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 5: Uh, that is a great question. I feel like it's

1337
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 5: a million dollar question.

1338
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 4: No one really.

1339
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's different things and different like sometimes a producer

1340
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 5: for a film is the person like actually like funding

1341
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 5: it like money.

1342
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 4: It's really about managing.

1343
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: It's really you know, being a general manager basically, like

1344
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: it's uh, managing the money, making sure you stay on budget,

1345
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 5: managing the talent. And it's it's different in like different

1346
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: specific things, but generally producing is uh is a producers

1347
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 5: is the person in between the talent and whatever networker studio,

1348
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 5: making sure that both are happy, but more so probably

1349
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 5: the network.

1350
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1351
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1352
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting because you know, you get introduced

1353
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 2: to different people and like there could be like five

1354
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: executive producers that could be like there's like.

1355
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: All kinds of stuff the showrunners did this, did that.

1356
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 5: And yeah, what executive producer means I think that is

1357
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: like that could that kind of mean anything?

1358
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, Sometimes it's like here's the money. I'm

1359
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 6: not really involved, y'all spend the money.

1360
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: They could pay for everything.

1361
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: Or it could be like literally the person at the

1362
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: end of the day going take this joke out, take

1363
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 2: that out, move this around you.

1364
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: You really don't you don't know. It definitely means be.

1365
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 2: Nice to him, you know, like, don't be a but

1366
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: so uh now I gotta I have to bring up

1367
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: this because I'm a fan.

1368
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: How did you start the Yubna podcast?

1369
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: That?

1370
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

1371
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 5: That is a podcast that could have like started in

1372
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 5: so many different ways at so many different times. I

1373
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 5: remember Greg, who I think we crossed the past a

1374
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 5: few times when we were both in Chicago. Uh he uh,

1375
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 5: you know, we we got drinks when he first came

1376
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: out here to write for Colbert, and we naturally fell

1377
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 5: into just like talking about Star Wars, which is always

1378
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 5: a great sign to me when when when the conversation

1379
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 5: like you know, starts off how you doing, How's how's life?

1380
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: And then an hour about Star war Wars.

1381
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 5: And so I think from that conversation, you're like, yeah,

1382
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 5: we should do something about Star Wars. And it's one

1383
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: of those things where you know, you kind of say

1384
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 5: it and then it kind of fizzles out, but it's

1385
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: the thing you keep saying whenever you bump into each other.

1386
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 5: And then I was at when I was as a

1387
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 5: digital writer at Comedy Central. I was Jim Fagan was

1388
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 5: a director there, and he was always talking about Star

1389
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 5: Wars and he would he knew that I loved Star Wars,

1390
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 5: and every now and then he'd walk up to my

1391
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: cube was like, we should do something about Star Wars.

1392
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 5: And so these were the two guys in my ears

1393
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 5: saying we should do something about Star Wars. And you know,

1394
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: I think that like for a year, maybe two years,

1395
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: I like tried to connect us, like let's make some

1396
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 5: sort of Star Wars podcast together, and it finally kind

1397
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 5: of made sense in the pandemic.

1398
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 4: For us to.

1399
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, just like three guys talking about Star Wars.

1400
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 5: Very atypical, right, three guys.

1401
01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,959
Speaker 4: We want to talk about Star Wars.

1402
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: What's a typical to me about it? What's a typical

1403
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 2: to me about it is. It's a Star Wars podcast

1404
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: for people that like actually like Star Wars. I'm angry

1405
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: because I feel like most of the Star Wars content,

1406
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 2: especially from dudes, is like how much they used to

1407
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: like being how much they used to like being ten

1408
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 2: years old.

1409
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: It's really was like I liked everything when I was eight.

1410
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Why can't like being like eight years old?

1411
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, and at the same time, like I don't

1412
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,959
Speaker 2: feel like it's pandering or dishonest. So like if y'all

1413
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: don't like something or there's something that kind of rubbed

1414
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: you the wrong way, like y'all will bring it up.

1415
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: It's not like y'all avoiding those things a lot of times.

1416
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: Just still keep it funny when it's like it's like

1417
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 2: nobody likes jar Jar Binks or whatever, but there's a

1418
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: lot of comedy to be had in that there's jar

1419
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: Jar Binks in this movie or and I think that's

1420
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 2: a more honest take on it as opposed to like

1421
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: if you go on YouTube and just put Star Wars

1422
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 2: or something, there's so many people that clearly like they

1423
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: hate it, and then also there's a reward for hating it.

1424
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 3: Yes, but algorithm love that.

1425
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be like the first thing and likes JW

1426
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 2: ruined Star Wars and it's just some white dude for

1427
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: seven hours mad about like one comment.

1428
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: From Kelly Marie Tran.

1429
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 6: Women in an interview and so like that that Galaxy

1430
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 6: fall fall fall away, no women allowed.

1431
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 2: That's what I really liked about it. And I think

1432
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: there's like it's like healthy that way. You also get

1433
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: like good guests and stuff like people that have been

1434
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: involved in in writing and involved in Star Wars stuff,

1435
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: so you get some behind the scenes stuff y'all saw

1436
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: fans y'all gone to like the Star Wars park and

1437
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: like giving up given reports or like this is what

1438
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: it's like out there. And so I think that's the

1439
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: enthusiasm that makes me really like the show. And while

1440
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm such a fan, and like I said, that's the

1441
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: difference because yeah, we've all heard three dudes give you

1442
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 2: the give you the why we gotta hate it. But

1443
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: I think it's rare to see people tell you why

1444
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: they like something.

1445
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1446
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think once we kind of zeroed in

1447
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 5: on the idea that this is for people who actually

1448
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 5: like Star Wars. No matter what we're feeling, if we

1449
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 5: go on a rant. We try and like always go

1450
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: back to that feeling like and this is why we

1451
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 5: love it.

1452
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, we love that.

1453
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 5: We love that Star Wars. Is this all encumbassing thing

1454
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 5: where we can have these debates. Yeah, so kind of

1455
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 5: returning to that that feeling is mostly out of jest.

1456
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: I was thinking about, these are just movies. This isn't

1457
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 4: a religion, This isn't right.

1458
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: We shouldn't take it that seriously, but there are things

1459
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 5: worth debating about.

1460
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: Like I was watching Obi Wan today. I haven't finished it.

1461
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 2: No spoilers, I want fo.

1462
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: Anything, but I was like, man, I love Star Wars.

1463
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 2: I even love the stupid shit about Star Wars. Yes,

1464
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: like like even the dumb stuff is still fun to me.

1465
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: Like I remember people were arguing about something. It might

1466
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: have been the prequels or something, and you know, everybody's

1467
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: crashing them or whatever. And I still remember thinking to myself, like, dog,

1468
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: there's noise in space.

1469
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: Like like used to be like a long long time ago.

1470
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: You could hear me.

1471
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: Apparently there was a lot of oxygen out there.

1472
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: We just didn't know, like you know, like it's like

1473
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: you hear blasters. Yeah, I'm like I love this stuff, man,

1474
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: this is so fun, like and I even.

1475
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: Love when they do.

1476
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Now with all the new content and all the you know,

1477
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: people involved, it's having this effect that and it seems

1478
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: to happen to everything that's big, right, it always starts

1479
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: off what is normally the imagination of one white man,

1480
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1481
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of a lot of.

1482
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 2: Content starts off that way, and you know, he has

1483
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: a white man experience. So normally it's like, you know,

1484
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: all the space has two negroes or whatever. You're like, okay,

1485
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: But like when they passed the baton off to like

1486
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: bigger and better people, like more people get involved, you know,

1487
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 2: in this case, Disney's getting involved, and now it's a

1488
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: lot more diverse of a world. So like I find

1489
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 2: myself to me being more defensive of it than I

1490
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: was before. Like I'm the opposite where like if somebody

1491
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: told me then like the original Troldle, I'd be like,

1492
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: all right, that's fine, Like I like it, but you know,

1493
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: I get it it has some limitations.

1494
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: But if they told me, like they didn't like Reva

1495
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: in the Lady, I'm like, what the fuck is wrong

1496
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: with you? You know, Like I've done the opposite.

1497
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be a legit reason.

1498
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like when it was an eighty year

1499
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: old white man wizard, it was fine, what happened?

1500
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: What changed?

1501
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: I need to be hearing something other than misogyny.

1502
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Bill Burr was talking in a Boston accent,

1503
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: come on, they were like, come on, y'all either with

1504
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: this stuffy in.

1505
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: Space, bosting in space, no problems, no complaints.

1506
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 2: So speaking of space man, you have your newest project,

1507
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: which is Maurice.

1508
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: Yes, we watched it today on YouTube.

1509
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: It is hilarious and low King well it's well it's

1510
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 2: right up our.

1511
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, this is this is our jail

1512
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: because low Key is one.

1513
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 6: It is one of the animes that I really like

1514
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 6: because you've got to be paying attention and on the

1515
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 6: lo while something's happening in the foreground, there are actually

1516
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 6: other things happening in the background, and they are actually

1517
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 6: like whispering and jokes and stuff kind of going.

1518
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,480
Speaker 1: Off your phone.

1519
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be paying attention.

1520
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 6: And it was one of those things where I was like,

1521
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 6: this is hilarious because they would talking to Maurice's parents,

1522
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 6: Marie is on Mar's parents and on the load in

1523
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 6: the background, the whole world was really burning down. Like

1524
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 6: I was like, and the people on march there are

1525
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 6: no wars on Earth and he was like.

1526
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Yes, radical radical Earth theory.

1527
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: Yes.

1528
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's so smart.

1529
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 2: You pack a lot of jokes in a short period

1530
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 2: of time, Like he's short, It's only like five minutes long.

1531
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: I was yeah, and like so how And the reason

1532
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 2: I say it's up our alley is like, you know,

1533
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: we're big into animated comedy, so like Rick and Morty,

1534
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: what why can't I think of the.

1535
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: One with jig what was yes face something?

1536
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: But I'm a futurama like all this stuff like that.

1537
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: I like all this animated stuff that I watched that

1538
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: is comedy slash animated and uh so we were like

1539
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 2: already primed to go. It was just like, oh man

1540
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: animated comedy sci fi said let's go, like in black

1541
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: People in it, Like I'm like, come on, let's go.

1542
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: So how did the idea come about? And how did

1543
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: the like how does it work with the comedy Central thing?

1544
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an idea that I had like very

1545
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 5: vaguely for like starting probably like five years ago because

1546
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 5: it was like keeping track of the fact that all

1547
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 5: the billionaires are trying to go to Mars and tackle

1548
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 5: space and have private ships to space. That was weird

1549
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 5: and I felt like these rich people probably know something and.

1550
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: They're not doing this for no reason.

1551
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 5: So I kind of made it a concrete thing in

1552
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 5: my head of like, Okay, in about twenty years, there's

1553
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 5: going to be some people on Mars, and making that

1554
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 5: a fact in my head made try and think about concretely,

1555
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 5: what does being on Mars do to everything? What is

1556
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: being on Mars due to race, What is being on

1557
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 5: Mars due to religion? What does being on Mars due

1558
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 5: to culture, due to music, everything due to sports. So

1559
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 5: that was just like a go to thing where like

1560
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 5: whenever it was like getting drinks with people, I would

1561
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: ask questions about about this. And in twenty twenty, I

1562
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 5: was running for the Tonight Show. The world was on fire,

1563
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 5: there's lockdown, there's there's the murder of George Floyd, there's

1564
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 5: the protests after the murder of George Floyd that go

1565
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 5: across the globe. And then in the middle of those protests,

1566
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 5: space X had its first private rocket, the first fully

1567
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 5: private crew went into space, and I feel like I

1568
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 5: could not imagine ever seeing everything laid out so clearly

1569
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. This is the whitey on

1570
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 5: the moon scenario. This is the world's on fire, the

1571
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 5: billionaires are going into space. This is like and I

1572
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 5: kind of poured everything into this idea, partially because I

1573
01:14:54,439 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 5: had heard that Comedy Central was looking for people people color, uh,

1574
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 5: to make something in an animated space. This was that time

1575
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 5: period where every black person I knew was getting a

1576
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 5: general meeting and listen.

1577
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: I donas was palling out.

1578
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: On this show.

1579
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 2: I remember like being like, because we recovered these articles

1580
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 2: that would be like, uh, Whacovia is well, Fardo is

1581
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: gonna hire They're they're pledging to donate this much money

1582
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 2: and hire more diverse And I remember being specifically like, listen,

1583
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 2: black people, if you can hear the sound of my voice,

1584
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: this goodwill.

1585
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Is going to run out. Yes, it will not much

1586
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: faster than you expect.

1587
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: Get every fucking thing you can. Don't feel bad about it.

1588
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: Don't feel guilty about it. Like do they be feeling

1589
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: bad when they get nepotism? No, So don't you feel

1590
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: bad if the reason they gave you that job is

1591
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: for the first time ever you got some a job.

1592
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: Just for being black. Take that ship, take that money,

1593
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: don't look back.

1594
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: But also with black people, though, the difference is we've

1595
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: been boxed out. So the only people gonna get those

1596
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 2: jobs of people that's probably qualified or overqualified in the

1597
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: first place. So it's like this idea that you had

1598
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: for five years, somebody was like, I guess we'll give

1599
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: them a shot, you.

1600
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1601
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: This whole time, like I've literally heard of I've literally

1602
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: heard of white people getting meetings and not having an idea,

1603
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: Like they're at the meeting like fitball and like all right,

1604
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: so all right, we should be able to get you

1605
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: an idea in forty eight hours. And like you if

1606
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: me as a whack, I'm walking in on like the storyboard,

1607
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I brought my friends, we.

1608
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 3: Got artwork, we got the voice over.

1609
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 6: In fact, here's the first minute of the show.

1610
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 5: Right, I'm trying to get to that JJ Abrams level

1611
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 5: or someone will get me the last Star Wars movie, yeah,

1612
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 5: and be like I don't know, figure it out. Yes,

1613
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 5: Can you imagine if they gave.

1614
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 2: That right, like like college Gavard is dropped out or whatever.

1615
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: And then JJ just comes in like I got you man,

1616
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: what y'all need? Let me let me watch the other

1617
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: two mothers. Okay, so what y'all do last movie? Oh yeah,

1618
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: I'll just undo that. We don't need that.

1619
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: Uh we take the black dude out asking more black slaves,

1620
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: all right?

1621
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: Like like that is that I remember it was.

1622
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: I want to say it was a Lena Dunham thing,

1623
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: but I can't remember the exact person. But it was

1624
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: just like this they were like telling the story of

1625
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: how they It might have been Leana Dunna talking about

1626
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 2: getting girls or something. She was just talking about like.

1627
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, to her, this is like.

1628
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: This is her telling us like how like what a

1629
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: success story she is and how you know you just

1630
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 2: got believe in yourself.

1631
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: But she didn't realize that as black people, we're looking

1632
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: at like what the fuck?

1633
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 2: So she was she was like, yeah, I didn't even

1634
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: really you know, Jag got me to meet and I

1635
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: didn't really have an idea of what else gonna do,

1636
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: you know, I just kind of want to like do

1637
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: some of my friends by everyone's like She's like, and

1638
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, I was just like, I've just come up

1639
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: with something and I have some of the next meeting

1640
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 2: neverybody's like you weren't ready. You just had the meeting

1641
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,879
Speaker 2: was what you get ready for? And there is that feeling.

1642
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, I'm glad to hear that if you

1643
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: want the people that got to take advantage of it,

1644
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: and it came to fruition before the good will ran

1645
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: now because I feel like a lot of shit getting

1646
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: canceled now, like Netflix over there canceling shit. Netflix took

1647
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: one loss in the history of Netflix, like they lost

1648
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand subscribers, one the first time they've ever

1649
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: lost subscribers. They was like, cut all the black ship,

1650
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: the gay shit, we don't need any cut the black employees,

1651
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 2: We don't give a fuck, like we gotta go.

1652
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: Everything was a luxury. And the name of that show

1653
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 3: is Final Space.

1654
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: Final Space, Thank you.

1655
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I.

1656
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 6: Was hurt when they ended that, and I want somebody

1657
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 6: to pick that up because because where it ended, I

1658
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 6: was like, where.

1659
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: Do they Where the hell do we go from here?

1660
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1661
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely the I love that show. But I'm sorry,

1662
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: I didn't mean the cutch cut off your story. So

1663
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: so you have this meaning, how's it?

1664
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: How's it go?

1665
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1666
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 5: So I think I pitched like three ideas, but that

1667
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 5: was like the one that I had the most like

1668
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 5: affection towards, so I was very happy that they.

1669
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 4: Liked that one.

1670
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 5: And then it it was going forward. And then there

1671
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 5: were some like internal shifts, I think because like Viacom

1672
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 5: and CBS had just merged, and so it was in

1673
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 5: limbo for like three months, and I was like, I

1674
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 5: didn't know what was gonna happen, and then like it miraculously,

1675
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 5: you know, came back. I think like certain people like

1676
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 5: Steve Elliott, who worked at Comedy Central at the time,

1677
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 5: like really advocated for it. And then it was just like,

1678
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:50,839
Speaker 5: let's get this into production as fast as possible.

1679
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 4: That was my mode of thinking.

1680
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 5: So let me reach out to let's like within a

1681
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 5: couple of days, like narrow down what cast we want,

1682
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 5: you know, figure out with an a couple of weeks

1683
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 5: to figure out what animation studio we want to work with,

1684
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 5: and yeah, it's it's. Animation is a fascinating process that

1685
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 5: I love. I'd love to do more of it.

1686
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: And it's a whole different animal too, because like animation

1687
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 2: doesn't get paid the same as like other areas and stuff,

1688
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: like the guild. There's no like uh, like there they

1689
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: don't have like a solified like workers union type thing

1690
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 2: yet where it's like you're gonna do this, like you know,

1691
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: like even with the writers guild ship because I've never

1692
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: been in union before and until that, and they would

1693
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: be shipp where like I'd want to do something and

1694
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: you find out like, no, man, we negotiated, you.

1695
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: Don't do that ship. Oh my bad, I'm bad. I

1696
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know.

1697
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back home and get back, go back

1698
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: to sleep. I didn't know what I was doing. And

1699
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: so with animation though, there's like a lot of like

1700
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: controversy over there and how should they be cover how

1701
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: should they be compensated, And that's probably gonna come to

1702
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: a head at some point there.

1703
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 5: Soon because it's stupid if too much follow that. Yeah, yeah,

1704
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 5: and uh, this is just a web series for now.

1705
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 5: My hope is that it can be a sort of

1706
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 5: proving ground for something that could be an actual show

1707
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 5: where I can get a staff of writers and get.

1708
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: Because you clearly you clearly thought about.

1709
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 2: And have a backstory to so many component. Yes, like

1710
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: there's just little things you notice. It's like, oh, this

1711
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: is the name of the news network. There's something there

1712
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: with that that like that that's enough. That's a character

1713
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 2: in this that's layered. There's oh, this is uh uh,

1714
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: this is the name of the new sport.

1715
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot of thoughts.

1716
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 3: And and like there's so many questions that I have.

1717
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, eventually.

1718
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 6: We're gonna get the background of the parents. How did

1719
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 6: you end up there in the first place.

1720
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: Eventually we're gonna get to know who is the random

1721
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: black dude normally in the background just making comments out

1722
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: of nowhere, and like he's the one that it didn't

1723
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: go down, He's the one that got missing.

1724
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 3: I was like, it's more to this than me.

1725
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 5: That yeah, well yeah, that that character's voice by Dwayne Kennedy,

1726
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 5: who is one of the greatest comedians of all time.

1727
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 5: He was someone that was like incredibly, incredibly happy to

1728
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 5: get on board because some of the funniest lines in

1729
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 5: this were not written by me. They were ad libs

1730
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 5: from Dwayne Kennedy.

1731
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask you about that, like how that

1732
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 6: character was hilarious.

1733
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: Well also just I know, as a writer, you write shit.

1734
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: And I was gonna ask if animation was more regimented

1735
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: than uh, live action, because I know when we write

1736
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: stuff is more of a suggestion, Like sometimes they stick

1737
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 2: all the way to the words, but sometimes they be

1738
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 2: up in there like I think my place, I think

1739
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: my person was saying like this, and you gotta be like,

1740
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: all right, yeah.

1741
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, saying your way, do what

1742
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: you want, and maybe one take them away if that's

1743
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: okay what they want.

1744
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: So like, there's that that feeling from it. But I

1745
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: didn't know if animation would does it that way? So

1746
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: is it like you right? Then I did a voiceover

1747
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 2: and then they animate it.

1748
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 5: Is that the process that, Yeah, that's what it is.

1749
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 5: And so I backtracking a little bit. I originally wrote

1750
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 5: five episodes and we narrated down to three, So I

1751
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 5: think that's and I like this. Actually, I think that's

1752
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 5: why I really do have like a fleshed out storyline

1753
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 5: happening with one character that was supposed to be in

1754
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 5: an episode, and that that I think that's why when

1755
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 5: you watch these you feel like you're caught in the

1756
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 5: middle of an act of a fully produced show, Like

1757
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: you feel like this random character has some sort of

1758
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 5: reality beyond what you're seeing him in. But the production

1759
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 5: process and this is my first time really getting into it.

1760
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 5: There's a lot of opportunity for creativity every step of

1761
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 5: the way. So I write the script, I really had

1762
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 5: to like nitpick like a word or like whatever to

1763
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 5: keep it within those five pages. And so when it

1764
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 5: came to recording the audio, that's when I realized, oh,

1765
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 5: I can actually split these lines up so it feels

1766
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 5: more conversational, even though it would have made it more

1767
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 5: pages on the actual script. So that was like a

1768
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 5: little like skill that I that I learned from that.

1769
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 5: So it's you write the script, then the then you

1770
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 5: record the audio, and then you get what's called a

1771
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 5: radio play where all the all the audios cut together.

1772
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 5: They put some music that might be good and you

1773
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 5: give a couple notes on that until that gets locked.

1774
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 5: And so once that's locked, you have the locked radio play.

1775
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 5: You send that to some storyboard artists. They they make

1776
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 5: a shot compositions, and then they have an animatic editor

1777
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 5: cut it into an animatic So you have a video

1778
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: with the audio going and you're seeing each shot as

1779
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,599
Speaker 5: it should be laid out with the audio a couple

1780
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 5: you know, feedback loops on that if like can we

1781
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 5: do a shot like this here. Can we maybe like

1782
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 5: focus on this character during this moment that kind of

1783
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 5: thing that gets locked and then it's animated, and then

1784
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 5: there's the process of like like and for this, I

1785
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 5: mean ideally, I imagine this would have been a situation

1786
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,759
Speaker 5: where I would go to a physical studio and actually

1787
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 5: get to know the animators and in person. But this

1788
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 5: was all through email, which was difficult but also.

1789
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 4: Kind of uh.

1790
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 5: I gained a lot from it because I really only

1791
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 5: could do like two maybe three rounds of notes for

1792
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 5: each of those parts of production, right, so I had

1793
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 5: to be very specific with my emails about with time

1794
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 5: codes of like can we get a blink here? Can

1795
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 5: we can we you know, can this? Can this these

1796
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 5: eyebrows raise?

1797
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 4: Here?

1798
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 5: Can this person kind of be posed angrily in this moment?

1799
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 5: And so a lot of just like visual character building,

1800
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 5: a lot of of that kind of thing, But like, uh,

1801
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 5: there are jokes that are discovered in the storyboard process.

1802
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 4: There are jokes that are discovered when you're recording.

1803
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 5: With the the actors, and especially with this being like

1804
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 5: the first time in this world, a lot of recording

1805
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 5: with them was figuring out like, oh, maybe this is

1806
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 5: how this character works. Like when when my original concept

1807
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 5: of Janice, the Maurice's coworker who might be an alien,

1808
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 5: I had her just like kind of being a really

1809
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 5: upbeat person. But the way Clara Ocane first read the

1810
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 5: character was very low key and actually ended up liking

1811
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 5: that a lot like this, and that made me change

1812
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:28,560
Speaker 5: the dynamic of how I originally visioned Maurice, because I

1813
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 5: thought Maurice was going to be more of a low

1814
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 5: key sort of Daria type. But now Maurice is a

1815
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 5: little more energetic than Janice and that kind of thing.

1816
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 6: So it's Yeah, and the thing about her possibly being

1817
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 6: an alien, which is funny, they're actually talking to each

1818
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 6: other and between him it's a sign that says like

1819
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,520
Speaker 6: if you see an alien, warn somebody.

1820
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 3: Then I busted out laughing.

1821
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's And then like the other thing is like

1822
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: what's the turnaround time, like between you like submitting like

1823
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: this is what I wrote to you know, you getting

1824
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: back something in the former like this is what it

1825
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: would look like animated.

1826
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 5: This has been a two year process, I think, like

1827
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: I turned in the first scripts. Uh maybe it was

1828
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 5: June of twenty twenty. Wow, So there was like there

1829
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 5: was that process of writing and rewriting, and then there

1830
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 5: was that like three or four months of limbo that

1831
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 5: was not telling me about then it got back on track.

1832
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,879
Speaker 4: But it's it's been a lot. It's been a long process.

1833
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm so I'm just like thrilled that it's out.

1834
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 5: I think when it came out there.

1835
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,839
Speaker 4: Were certain people who were.

1836
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 5: Who felt challenged by the title Radical Earth Theory or

1837
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 5: helped challenge about the fact that it's it.

1838
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 3: Was hilarious to me.

1839
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: I thought it yeah, not soon as they were like

1840
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: there were no wars on Earth.

1841
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck. I was like, wait

1842
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: a minute.

1843
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 3: I was like I was with the character. I was like,

1844
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 3: that's not true. That's right, I think I said put

1845
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: a character said. I was like, that's a lot.

1846
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good.

1847
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 5: But I think it's like it's it's been interesting like

1848
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 5: seeing it because I think there's a bit of paid

1849
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,919
Speaker 5: promotion going so it's just like popping up on people's computers,

1850
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 5: people who might not you know. But it's funny looking

1851
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 5: through the comments of like another example of bad woke.

1852
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 5: So my favorite so far, there's a comment in episode

1853
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 5: two where it just says black people cartoons dot dot dot.

1854
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: Good.

1855
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 5: If you can work and you do like it, please

1856
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: give a positive comment because I was pretty distraught for

1857
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 5: a couple of days because of these like yeah, that

1858
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 5: does suck.

1859
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: Like that is like we just started putting our show

1860
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and.

1861
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 3: You know, we have avoided YouTube aoid long time.

1862
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: So so far has been mostly you know, I mean

1863
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: comments and likes and stuff. But then there's like one

1864
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: time I saw like a it's like on a video.

1865
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck was that about? You

1866
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: know what?

1867
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: It's just like it sucks to have that kind of

1868
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: like creative brain where it's like, because I'm not as

1869
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 2: a it's not rational to expect universal praise. And I

1870
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 2: do know the kind of world that we're talking about

1871
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: this stuff and talking to people about. So it's like

1872
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: I've seen what happens everyone else. I don't know why

1873
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 2: my brain is like, but that shouldn't happen to me.

1874
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: I'm that's what happens to me, Like I did not.

1875
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 5: I really was not thinking that anyone. Like, to me,

1876
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 5: this is pretty tame in terms of trying right, Like

1877
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: it's not even woke.

1878
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 4: It's like it's.

1879
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: Just funny, Like it's just funny.

1880
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did yeah, it wasn't message, you know, like that,

1881
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: it was just funny. But I didn't even think to

1882
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: look at the comments, which is which is something else

1883
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 2: that's interesting, because like, unless you're a the person who

1884
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 2: made it, or you're the kind of person that's on

1885
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: YouTube a lot, so so it's your social network, most

1886
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: people don't even think look at those comments.

1887
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: I know, I don't you know what I mean, but

1888
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: I definitely would. But I didn't even think of.

1889
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 2: It until you just said I was like, of course, yeah,

1890
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: they're like there's like there's kind of big.

1891
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 1: Hopefully you blow up enough.

1892
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 2: To where there's gonna be somebody somewhere going like and

1893
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: let me tell you, I got a seven hour video

1894
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: about Tim Barnes, and let me tell you what's wrong

1895
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 2: with this guy.

1896
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Is the PC social justice liberal culture, Like.

1897
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully you make it that big man, and hopefully it's

1898
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: so big you're not even looking at the comments, you know.

1899
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's I made a mistake of trying to

1900
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 5: personalize the comments in the first episode, like, hey, I

1901
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 5: created this.

1902
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so now they know they got your attention.

1903
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 5: But now they know they know the face, they know

1904
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 5: the name, yeah, of the person who made.

1905
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 4: It, and I was like, oh, man, I had a

1906
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 4: quick learning curve for me.

1907
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be like Beyonce.

1908
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 2: Man, Like Beyonce, Beyonce does whatever she does, comes down

1909
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: out of the mountain, delivers the Ten Commandments, and then

1910
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 2: goes back to the fuck and like, good luck going

1911
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: through the desert by y'allself, I won't be there, you

1912
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1913
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Like I do not.

1914
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate marketing platform. Her Rihanna, like they

1915
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: figured it out. You ain't never caught them arguing in

1916
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: the comments about you can say, oh, we hate her,

1917
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: she's a black panther terrorist.

1918
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: She'd be like, whatever, y'all gonna get this work. But yeah, man,

1919
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to meet you.

1920
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 6: Man.

1921
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: What else are Do you have anything else you're working

1922
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 1: on now.

1923
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 4: Or like there are?

1924
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm working on things that I can't really talk about.

1925
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 5: But another pandemic project of mine. I had this web

1926
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 5: comic that I that I wrote in this illustrator Grant

1927
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 5: Lindah would draw them called Uncertain Life. We're kind of

1928
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 5: taking a break now or retool it. We did a

1929
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 5: hundred issues of it, wow, and now we want to

1930
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 5: just give it a little more focused because it was

1931
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 5: just like, you know, just for fun, trying to figure

1932
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 5: out how to how to make jokes and four panels

1933
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 5: and that kind of thing. So that's kind of what

1934
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm diving in diving into now. But yeah, this was

1935
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 5: so much fun. I like have gone beyond being Twitter

1936
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 5: co Twitter followers.

1937
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Phil, and you gotta come back and then

1938
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: we'll do like the regular show, like our first time

1939
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 2: we have people on, we always like to interview them

1940
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 2: so that people can get the story and and all

1941
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: that stuff and see what they're doing and go follow it.

1942
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 2: But then, like you know, come back subsequently and we'll

1943
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: play our games like fucking with black people and guess

1944
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: the right uh and uh and and shout out the

1945
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 2: black capitalists and people that are making a lot of

1946
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: money and stuff like.

1947
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: It'll be a good time.

1948
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 4: Man.

1949
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, see who's gonna be coming to the cookout?

1950
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pass the test and you can be our

1951
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 1: friend now.

1952
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: So we can all stay inside together, all right, Tim, Man,

1953
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: thank you so much.

1954
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 6: Man.

1955
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 2: You tell the people where to find you, and yeah,

1956
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 2: then we'll close it out.

1957
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 5: You can follow me on Twitter at Tim Barnes for

1958
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 5: a five one that's a temperature at which jokes burn.

1959
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 5: And you can get other information from me at Tim

1960
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 5: Barnescomedy dot com. H and episode three the last. It's

1961
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 5: only three episodes of Maurice and Mars coming out, so

1962
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 5: episode three comes out this Friday. You can find that

1963
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 5: on Comedy Central's animated YouTube channel. And this episode is

1964
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 5: about Maurice accidentally starting the first recession on March.

1965
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, I really do hope it gets picked up.

1966
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: Man. I love to see it fleshed out, like thirty

1967
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 2: minute episodes or whatever you like. I feel like there's

1968
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 2: a lot, there's a rich tapestry of ideas that you're

1969
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 2: presenting in such a short period of time.

1970
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: And yo, mate, just i'd be.

1971
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: Remiss to say, y'all got y'all should check out if

1972
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 2: you're a Star Wars fan, check out the yeb No podcast.

1973
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: It's a really great podcast for people that like Star

1974
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 2: Wars and without it being like blowing smoke up your ass,

1975
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 2: you know, for lack of a better term. But y'all,

1976
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: like I think y'all had an episode June first fan

1977
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 2: racism and I was just in the it was like

1978
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: going to church.

1979
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: I was just in the car, like, yes, Amen, that's

1980
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I was agreeing heavy with y'all.

1981
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 6: Yes, I think you played that when I was in

1982
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 6: the background when they was talking about Reva and stuff

1983
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 6: like that, I was like, you know what, I one

1984
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 6: hundred percent of agree because this is so much underlying

1985
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 6: things and people don't like to be called out on

1986
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 6: their bullshit, and so you're like, this is what it

1987
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 6: really is.

1988
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 3: Then everybody wants to backtrack, like that's not what it is.

1989
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: I rewatched.

1990
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: I just don't like the way she blinks, so I

1991
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 4: don't talk because she's black.

1992
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 3: I don't like.

1993
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't like it's her it's her accent, and she

1994
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a white guy from nineteen.

1995
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 3: Sixties professionally trained actor.

1996
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 1: I like, Uh.

1997
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: The other thing I was gonna say too, is uh.

1998
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 2: I went back and watched A New Hope with Karen

1999
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: and the sass that Leah has in that movie.

2000
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I have forgot how epic it was. She roasted these niggas.

2001
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: Like they came to rescue her and she immediate like

2002
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 2: her first.

2003
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Words to Luke were like you kind of short for

2004
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: a storm truth, Like it was just like, what do

2005
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: you to idiots? Got a plan? Like it was.

2006
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 2: It was like they saving you, sent a message in

2007
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: a droid for someone to come save you, and she

2008
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 2: really they showed up and she.

2009
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Was like, y'all, ain't being Kenoby. She wasn't even gonna

2010
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: go with them.

2011
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 3: No, even you, he't got the business. He got a

2012
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 3: straight bullet. What did he have to do with in

2013
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 3: the thing?

2014
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Even she wasn't even gonna go with them until they

2015
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 2: was like being Kenobe. That was okay, Well, I guess

2016
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: if he's got something to do with this, and so uh,

2017
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 2: it's funny to watch people be mad at the little

2018
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: girl actress for being sassy. I was like, but wouldn't

2019
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: that be the kid that grows up into Leyah.

2020
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, all right, y'all, you can't.

2021
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 5: Judge kids with that level of the Midi Chlorian count.

2022
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't be like a ten year old doesn't

2023
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 4: act like that.

2024
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 5: This is a ten year old princess whose father is

2025
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 5: Darth Vader.

2026
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like y'all, likey she didn't turn out way worse

2027
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: than that. To be honest, we've seen what happened to Anakin. Okay, y'all,

2028
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 2: both of them kids, like god, they might.

2029
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 1: As well be angels compared to this little dude. Man,

2030
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: it was a menace, right. He was blowing up shiit

2031
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 1: a day. He just find flying starfighters in the in.

2032
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 2: The in the ships and blowing off like they leave alone.

2033
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: They just babies, all right, y'all. That's it.

2034
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: We'll be back Saturday for our feedback show. Until then,

2035
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 2: I love you.

2036
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 4: Why