1 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: All right, So we've recorded this episode in multiple parts. 2 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: We recorded like a whole ten minute rant that's coming. 3 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of good stuff. But now that 4 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: we're on part two of the actual time that we've 5 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: been recording, there's some new info that has come out, 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: and Orge Lopez has been DFAD based on his actions 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: that happened during the game. Maybe after the game, Horey 8 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: Lopez is gone. If you didn't notice Orye Lopez when 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: he made a pick off the third base with Brett Baidy, 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: it hit ramone de jesus, ramone, de jesus. He felt 11 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: like he was in the way. He made some comments 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: to him when he was gonna be taken out of 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: the game. He ended up getting ejected. He untucked his shirt, 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: took off his hat, and fired it through his glove 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: into the stands. Someone went home with Hory Lopez's glove, 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: It might be one of the coolest souvenirs ever. 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I mean, after the game, he goes to his locker 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: and old moon faced Steve Gelibs ask him a question 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: and the question was James. What was the question? 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: I don't know, but basically they were asking him about 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: what happened. I thought you knew it. I thought you 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: knew it. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: It was tough because Horay Lopez is from Puerto Rico. 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: English is not his first language, and it seems like 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: there could have been a little bit of lost in 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: translation here. But some way, somehow, Hory Lopez and I'll 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: feed in the clip here after I introduce it here, 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: said that he is either on the worst team in 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, or he is the worst teammate in 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, or third, he is the worst teammate 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: on the worst team in Major League Baseball. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: So I let you guys listen to that real quick. 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Carlos Mendoza said that he understands the emotion, but that 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: that particular action of throwing your glove into the stands 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: is unacceptable looking back on it, Do you regret doing that? No, 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: I don't regret it. I think I've been looking the 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: words steaming brought them the whole MLB. So you know, 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: whatever happened happened. So whatever they want to do it, 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: I'll be tomorrow here if they want me. You know, 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 3: whatever they want to do. So I'm gonna keep doing 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: this thing, you know, so I'm healthy on whatever, you know, 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: whatever to do. You know, I'm I'm ready to come 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: back tomorrow if they want me to be here, so 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: I'll be here. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: James, what do you think about this? Because this, Uh, 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: to me, this is a major problem. And it's not 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: necessarily a Hose or Jorge Lopez problem. I can't call 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: them the right name. I'll call them everything but Jorge. 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: But this to me is a major major uh oh, 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: what is going on with the culture here. It's a 52 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: shocking thing. Because the Mets finally after this game, had 53 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: a team meeting and they said media availability was paused 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes and the team had a closed door 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: meeting and they said Francisco and Door called the meeting. 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: They said everybody spoke, it was good speaking. And I 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: can't even imagine what was being talked about in that meeting. 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: If Ho Lopez came out like ripping like this, and 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I understand that there's a few bad alecs in a 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: row for him, and he's someone who sucks a goat DFA. 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: He's been pretty useful this year. 62 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: He's go to the Atlanta Braves and get some big outs. 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: I hope that. I hope he I hope he gets 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: picked up by the Rockies first, because I don't want 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: to see him in the playoffs. But it feels like 66 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: there was something. Steve Gelbs asked him if he regretted 67 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: throwing his glove into the stands, and he said no, 68 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: And then this quote started coming to be the worst, 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: the worst team in the whole fucking MLB, And it 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of feels like if you listen closely to that, 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: and a reporter Many Gomez, who is I know, he's spanished, 72 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: he's Latin speaker. He reiterated. He had a tweet that 73 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: was like, hey, if you guys listen, that's not what 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Hory Lopez said. This is a misquote. And it felt 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: like by that time, the cat was already just out 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: of the back. The s n Y tweet had three 77 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: million impressions, Steve Gebbs tweeted two million impressions. Tacomo did 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: a triple double day now for his friend Steve Gelps 79 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: and had another like a couple of hundred thousand impressions. But 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: if you listen closely and you guys just pipe you 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: guys hurt, you piped it in, and you can go 82 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: back and listen to it, you hear him say teammate. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: And my question about this again part past the fact 84 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: that it seems like there's just an issue with this 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Mets team. It seems like there's no cohesion in the 86 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: locker room. It seems like nothing in here is being kept. 87 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: It seems like, no, there's no one to go to 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: in this locker room, and these guys are feeling out 89 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: of sorts, and this hit the whole thing. The wheels 90 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: are falling off. But what the fuck is the translator 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Alan sorreel right where this guy is not his his 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: first language is not English, and he's around the biggest 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: reporter is Likelmo. Everyone's at his locker and ask him questions. 94 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: He just had outburst the field. He threw his club 95 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: into the stands. I've never seen that before, especially with 96 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: the nets. He launched that club forty three. 97 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insane. 98 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Where is the team's translator helping him as he muddles 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: through this? Because Steve Gelb said, I'm asking you again, Reither, 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: rate what you said. Hory Lope has looked at him 101 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: like he had three heads. So like, I think that 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: this and this also is funny because a reporter from 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: a Baltimore News Network, Ryan Viviano Vivicano whatever this tweet's 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: going around too. He said he can't believe this happened. 105 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: He said, thirteen years covering the ros Ho Lopez, nice 106 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: guy I ever met, So it's just like I guess 107 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: it's now burstus frustrations. It's two weeks for him of 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: bad baseball a few straight out things, a month for 109 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: the Mets of some of the worst baseball we've seen. 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: But I do think that this might just be another 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: classic Mets situation that we thought we haven't seen shit 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: like this in a while, where something may have kind 113 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: of almost happened, and then just because we have such 114 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: a media frenzy surrounding this team, it's been blown completely 115 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: out of what it actually was. 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: So I'm half with you. 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: I think what Orge Lopez said is being twisted possibly 118 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: and being blown out of past abortion. But the bigger 119 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: issue here, and this will build into our ten minute rant, 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: which will be such a good segue for me while 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: I'm editing, is this team has a major, major issue. 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: This Pablo fucking Pablo. I keep calling him Pablo Lopez 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: because Paul Lopez is so good. He's always on my mind. 124 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Jorge Lopez, like you said one saying this to the media, 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: where where is lindor where is the other players on 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the team to be around him and be. 127 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: Like WHOA hold on? He did not mean this. 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: There's there's a fracture, there's a lack of leadership. There 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: is a serious and I hate being dramatic like this, 130 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: but have you have you ever seen a team do this? 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a player on a team do this? 132 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: And just for context, this is the second player now 133 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: that will be a former Met that has talked about 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: how horrible this team is. Tommy Fam don't forget where 135 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: a few months removed from Tommy fam saying this is 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: the least hard working team in baseball. He's never seen 137 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: a group of guys that care less, work less hard. Now, 138 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Warre Lopez has this outburst, and whether or not the 139 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: words are one hundred percent correct, he did double down 140 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: on that he definitely is the worst teammate and he 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: also didn't deny that he said worst team. So there's 142 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: a major, major culture issue going on in the Mets clubhouse. 143 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how to fix it. I don't know 144 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: what it is, but there is a real, real, just 145 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: gap of accountability, leadership, camaraderie. 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: What is it? I don't know what it is, but 147 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: I've never seen this with any other team. 148 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Do you remember that we heard that story that before 149 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Game one of the Wildcard Series in twenty twenty two 150 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: that the team was like silent and lifeless and like 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: totally still and they just didn't really have any heart 152 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: or anything. I think about that a lot, especially in 153 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: a situation like this where this locker room just seems 154 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: completely misshapen. They nothing, And it also it makes me 155 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: think a little bit that there might have just been 156 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: something to having that elder statesman forever. But by the 157 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: time that David Wright had retired and was off this team, 158 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: de gram was becoming the best pitcher in baseball. And 159 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: at least I know, de Grom wasn't necessarily known as 160 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: a leader, and I don't think he had this necessary 161 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: leadership qualities, But I think there was just a simple 162 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: awareness that there's somebody in this locker room that's kind 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: of ahead of everybody else. There's an elder statesman, there's 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: somebody that warrants this massive, incredible amount of respect, and 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: it just seems like this current team is current juncture. 166 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: There's not a homegrown guy like that. And Lindor makes 167 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: the most money and he's probably still objectively the best player, 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: but he's never really seemingly taken that step and proven 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: that he is the guy to look towards in the 170 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: locker room for other players to lean on, and to 171 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of be someone that is like uniting uniting function 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: off the field. And it seems like there's just this 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: pure vacuum in this chasm where there needs to be 174 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: a guy, a leader, a rah rah, a dude or 175 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: just some or just even just someone who is like 176 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: who is the man and doesn't have that And shit 177 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: like this now happens with jor He Lopez, where whether 178 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: he was misquoted or not, you shouldn't even let him 179 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: have that quote. Someone should be as locker someone should 180 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: have his arm around, their arm around Horgelo. There are 181 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: so many players that they own no media availability for 182 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: can't talk to him today? How did this one slip 183 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: through the cracks? Where's the translator? Where's the pr team? 184 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: We couldn't ask these guys any questions that they had. 185 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: A player say he's on the worst team in baseball? 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: How does that happen? They might have accidentally said that, 187 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: and it might have been like their own media, the 188 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: mets own internal media, with Steve Gelb's Anthie DoCoMo and 189 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: Martino pushing the story out through the s n Y 190 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: through the SNY funnel. Right now, it's even more frustrating 191 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: knowing how how we were handled with, like how delicately 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: everything was taken with us, like don't say this, don't 193 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: say that, be careful of this, be careful of that, 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and then they just let this happen, like was everybody sleeping? 195 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: What was happening? 196 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: No, it's insane malpractice. Again, this whole thing reflects, I think, 197 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: much more poorly on the entire organizations than it does 198 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: on Jorge Lopez or even even the twenty six twenty 199 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: five other players in the roster themselves. Corny Lopez did 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: nothing wrong, it seems thinks right now, I wouldna say 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: you did nothing wrong, even if I think you should 202 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: have said he regretted the glove throw. I think at 203 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: worst he should have been like that was me. I 204 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: got I got hot headed that I should have done 205 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: that was disrespectful to the team. 206 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: All that shit. 207 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: No, I mean again, I think that's that's being a 208 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: little ridiculous, your major profession baseball player. It's not that 209 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: many people in the world he gets to you do yeah, 210 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: to double down on that, he doesn't regret that. And 211 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: then but again, just to be left out there with 212 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: no assistance, no one from the team helping him, no translator, 213 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: no teammates with their arm around him. That is insane 214 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: to me. It's almost shocking that these reporters, like we're 215 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: kind of sharkish and like went after him like that. 216 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: I think Steve Beelby was speaking slowly. He was speaking English, 217 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: which is now were lobis first language. But he did 218 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: give him many chances to be like, is that actually 219 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: what you just said? He don't He might not, he 220 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: might not have understood. I don't know, but I I 221 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: I can't wait for having Mets spin this one. They're 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: just they're gonna they're gonna tweet about some of these 223 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: favorite ice cream flavors. 224 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: 's just this is so bizarre. 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: This is one of the most bizarre stories I've ever 226 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: come out about the Mets. Uh and this feeds all 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: into the rant that you're about to hear for the 228 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: next ten minutes. Because we talk a lot about the 229 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: lack of leadership and the lack of heart and the 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: lack of emotion. This is there's there's something brutally wrong 231 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: with this team. Here's ten minutes of it, all right, 232 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: So we are recording this podcast before the game even ends. 233 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: It's nine to three in the time of the eighth inning. 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: This team is a joke. This team is terrible, and 235 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: we are putting ten minutes on the clock. We're starting 236 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: it right now. There's no intro. Ten minutes on the clock. 237 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing the editing for this episode starting now. Okay, 238 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: we have ten minutes. Let's start ranting. James, you go first. 239 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: This team is horrible to watch. They're not fun to 240 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: root for. They keep inventing ways to lose games. I 241 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: couldn't even conceive possible the fact that they gave up 242 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: a rally on Tuesday in Game one in the double 243 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Heather after drop balls in the infield and then getting 244 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: actually to the point where they could have won the 245 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: game with the bases loaded one out for Tyrone Taylor, 246 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: and then still finding a way to lose the game 247 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: by multiple runs. It's shocked. Every single day this team 248 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: does something that shocks me to my core. And I 249 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: have no conceivable way of how how to stay in it. Yeah, 250 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: this team has a real loser mentality. There's no fight, 251 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: there's no heart on this team right now. The only 252 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: people showing any emotion or the relievers. I really wish 253 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: some of the guys who had long term contracts would 254 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe say something besides we're gonna be okay, we're better 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: than this. We know we're better than this, because it's 256 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: the same broken record now for two two hundred plus 257 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: games of we're better than this. We're gonna step up, 258 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna be better. That Tyrone Taylor take was disgraceful 259 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: to the sport of baseball. The fact that it was 260 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: an automatic take. Tyrone Taylor said it was an auto 261 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: take three that on three to one. I love Tyrone. 262 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Might have jinxed them because ever since I've loved them, 263 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: he's been terrible. That's like almost deffailable. If it came 264 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: from him, that's almost a cutable offense. If it came 265 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: from the Mendoza, that's that's even worse. Honestly, I don't 266 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: know what to do with this team. There's nothing that 267 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: goes right on this team. When things go right, that's 268 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: only for a short second. Then it goes wrong. The 269 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: offense is atrocious, the pitching is doing fine. The pitching 270 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been good, but the pitching has been fine, but 271 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: the bats can't help them out enough. This team is 272 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: one of the most unwatchable Mets teams I've seen in 273 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: a long time. And yes, we watched some really really 274 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: bad Mets teams, like actual bad players. This one's unwatchable 275 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: because there is no just no life. There's nothing that 276 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: makes you think that this team's gonna make it any better. 277 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: It's only disappointment. Jeff had a quote after both losses 278 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: on Tuesday which was just like, those aren't blowouts. We're 279 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: in these games, but I think that I'm not gonna 280 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: say what he said is part of the problem, but 281 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: that's what leads to the complete pure I don't know, disdained. 282 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: I think Ui and most of the Mets fan base 283 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: has had towards watching this team this year, where it's 284 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: you're in every single game, you can win every game. 285 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: The Mets only get blown out once we get to 286 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: the eighth inning and the implosion happens, or extra innings 287 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: when they just allow seven runs to score, like that's 288 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: where the implosion is that's where they wind up getting 289 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: blown out. But the fact that all of these games, 290 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: for seventy five eighty ninety percent of them are basically 291 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty coin tosses, and they find a way 292 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: to lose all of them. That's which makes me have 293 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: this like putrid, ranky, stanky feeling. It's kind of like 294 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: when you had like your refrigerator and if you guys 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: have ever had like a shit ton of roommates and 296 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: it the fridge just becomes a mess, like a bomb hitten. 297 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: And you see the fridge and it is daunting. You 298 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: see wilting vegetables and expired sauces and then old geese 299 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: out there that's growing hair on it. But they just 300 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: like there's a smell, and you think you take everything 301 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: out that's expired, and the smell is still in there. 302 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: That's what this Mets team feels like right now. Change 303 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: the deck chairs on the Titanic a few times, and 304 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: shit keeps getting different. But unless you like take every 305 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: single thing out of the refrigerator, that's the only way 306 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: or action be able to deeplean it. I'm not saying 307 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: that they should get rid of every player on the team, 308 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that as this keeps happening, it's 309 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: really hard to identify the issues because I think it thinks, yeah, 310 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: it's all. It's just there's a smell and won't go away. Yeah, 311 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: and you don't know what it is. You got to 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: you gotta move pieces around. I think one of the 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: pieces that needs to be moved, I'm calling for heads. 314 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Four minutes into the podcast, Eric Chavez has to lose 315 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: his job. He should no longer be the hitting coach. 316 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Jeremy Barnes has to go whatever. The hitting approach that 317 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: this team has is broken. It's terrible, and I've got 318 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: the stats to back it up. 319 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: So here we go. We're gonna rip off some of 320 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: these stats. The Mets are. 321 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: The only team in Major League Baseball without one player 322 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: that has a positive run value on pitches in the 323 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: heart of the zone. 324 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: And for the people at home, James, what's the heart 325 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: of the zone? Again? Part of the zone is. 326 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Directly in the middle of the strike zone, So it's 327 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of like Baseball savon blaze it out, where the 328 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: strike zone has like sixteen squares in it basically, and 329 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: it's just the middle of the middle, the middle, the 330 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: straight the heart it's very self explanatory, but it's a 331 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: complicated way of saying it. The pitches where you're supposed 332 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: to make some damage hit the balls hard, so you 333 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: dive a little bit deeper into the numbers, you go, wow, 334 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. They don't have a positive run value 335 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: on pitches in the heart of the zone. Feels almost impossible. 336 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: It should be. 337 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: They're the only team in baseball. No one's else is 338 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: really close. There's seventh in called strikes in terms of 339 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: heart of the zone pitches on a zero zero count, 340 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: which tells you they're not looking to swing with When 341 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: they get to the plate, they're like, hey, get the 342 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: first strike over on us, Put us in ZH one hole. 343 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Turn us from Freddie Freeman into JJ Blede. Not even 344 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: he's good now, Paul de Young, whatever, it's going to 345 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: be the only team's worst. Red Sox, Giants, Brewers, White Sox, Tigers, Cardinals, bad, terrible. 346 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: They have the sixth most outs on pitches in the 347 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: heart of the zone, and if you look at pitch percentage, 348 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: which is more indicative because again you can just have 349 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: more quantity, they're third for the third highest in terms 350 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: of outs on pitch in the zone twenty fifth in 351 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: hits on pitches in the heart of the zone. Only 352 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: team worse Marlins, Raised, White Sox, Guardians, Cardinals, terrible offensive 353 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: teams take away Singles's are twenty ninth in hits on 354 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: pitches in the heart of the zone. So everybody who 355 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: loves a stupid fucking single, bad, terrible. You could have 356 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: explained that way better just by saying extra base hits 357 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: and now, yeah, take them away whatever. And that is 358 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: a problem too, because the Mets love singles, and they're 359 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: one of the least athletic. 360 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: Teams in Major League Baseball. 361 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: They're horrendous at base running, twenty first in base running 362 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: metrics according to Fangrafts. So you get singles, you don't 363 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: take the extra bases. When you do, you take the 364 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: wrong extra base. You don't steal bases. They don't do 365 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: anything right. But wait, there's more. The Mets are second 366 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: in poorly hit balls on pitches in the heart of 367 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the zone. We're talking topping the ball, we're talking getting 368 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: underneath it, we're talking just hitting the ball back to 369 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: the pitcher twenty miles an hour. 370 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: Terrible. 371 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: We got four minutes and thirty seconds here. The Mets 372 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: first four hitters are dead last in hits on pitches 373 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: in the heart of the zone. Six through nine hitters 374 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: for the Mets are six best in Major League Baseball. 375 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: If you would have told me that at the beginning 376 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: of the year again, I would have thought we'd be 377 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: winning the division. 378 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: Sean and I has a three rs. Hey, Luis Everarno 379 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: has a two. It's unbelievable. 380 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: The bottom of the order has fourteen more hits on 381 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: pitches in the heart of the zone, then the top 382 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: of the order, then one through four. They have the 383 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: eighth most outs on in terms of one through four 384 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: in the heart of the zone, six most called strikes. 385 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: And on top of that, they don't hit. And their 386 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: defense is terrible. Starling Marte is arguably the worst outfielder 387 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball right now. Minus six OAA. That's 388 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and twentieth of one hundred and twenty three 389 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor, Sorry, but he's been terrible two even defensively 390 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: minus two OAA. Pete's got negative three. McNeil's got negative three. 391 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for Lindor and Harrison Bader, this would 392 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: easily be one of the worst defensive teams in baseball history. 393 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Even Omar Nevias, We've talked a lot about defensively, Somehow, 394 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: he's only played about thirty ish games this year is 395 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: worth almost negative one win, almost negative one war. That's 396 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: inconceivable for a player's played that few games. That means 397 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the season he could be worth 398 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: negative three war. That could actually be one of the 399 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: worst seasons of all time. And now I'm almost rooting 400 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: for him to stay in the roster over Tomasnio. See 401 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: if we can cross that plateau. This was the seventh 402 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: straight series for the Mets that they lost the first 403 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: two games of that in the last game of the series, 404 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: and that's not even two games because there were a 405 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: couple of four game series mixed in because the Phillies won. 406 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: This was the seventh trade series that they went into 407 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: the last game of the series avoiding a sweep. Seventh 408 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: in a row. That's the most enfranchise history this team. 409 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I think that they still or they got broken last year, 410 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: but they won little three minutes their first season their franchise, 411 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: they were the worst team ever for most of baseball history, 412 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: and this team is playing worse than that right now. 413 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: They only scored twice in this entire three times the 414 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: entire series against Dodgers, two of them were home runs 415 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: by Tomas Needo versus Schlndor. They went twenty consecutive innings 416 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: between Tuesday afternoon and Wednesday afternoon without scoring a run. 417 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Without scoring one run, the pitchers they faced in that 418 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: time were Gavin Stone and today James Paxon for three 419 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: innings and after James Packson left the game with no 420 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: announcement after three innings. Looking the best guys all year, 421 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: do you know who the Dodgers brought in the game. 422 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Banda, Johan Ramirez first the match twice this year, 423 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: Eliezer Hernandez, the actually told us new hood home run 424 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: off of also format never actually pinched that, Michael Grove, 425 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: who is an up and down guy pitching in relief 426 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: in the starter, and then Anthony Banda. The Dodgers were 427 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: pitching some of the worst pitchers on their roster against 428 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: the Mets and didn't make a difference. They couldn't do 429 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: anything against this team and the little lineup Shacub had 430 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: them hitting well for like a week after that. But 431 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: now it's been horrible again. And to make matters worse, 432 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: pe Alonzo shattered his hands today in the first inning 433 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: of the game. He was quivering. That didn't look good 434 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: to me. We haven't gotten official word of it, but 435 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Heete doesn't usually come out of the game situations like that. 436 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: It's a complete abomination trying to watch his team hit. 437 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: And the on top of all that, Adam Maulsavino, who 438 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: went like three weeks without giving up a hit in April. 439 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: His the r is now five point four to eight. 440 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: It went from point sixty seven to five four to 441 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: eight in like a month. He has nothing because nowhere near. Oh, 442 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: it's terrible. It's so bad to watch his team. They're 443 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: so not fun. There's so little life. I don't know, 444 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: And like they watching that first game on Tuesday, were 445 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: felt the tie cause of the shifted where Tyler McGill 446 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: has such a good game. We knew exactly how the 447 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: game is going to end, right when he came out, 448 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: right when the dog rally in the eighth, and right 449 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: when the Dodgers rally in the ninth, it was just 450 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: so obvious how it was all gonna wind up. And 451 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: even when the Mets have met on base and the 452 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: bomb of the ninth inning with fewer than two outs, 453 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: they can't get any of them home. Ever, this happens 454 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: time and time again with this roster. I don't know 455 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: why they can't find a way to anyone to make 456 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: a clutch play anything ever, even defense anting before Baby's 457 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: had so many amazing here at third base, baby just 458 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: drops a baseball and they seen that before either faciscal 459 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: door made a bad played. 460 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: Also, why is for. 461 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: Cisco Indoor trying to bunt fer hit? Why Francisco Indoor 462 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: should never, ever, ever ever square around to bun? It's 463 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: so stupid. How off of this team buns? I don't 464 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: know who's telling them the bun it's we have we 465 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: have forty five seconds left. Anything else you want to 466 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: take home here for the yes? Ruh. So here's what 467 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: it is with the New York Mets. This team is bad. 468 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: They lack leadership all around. Lack leadership all around, from 469 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Carlos Mendoza down to the last player on this team. 470 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: Nobody is stepping up and being a leader. Nobody's taking accountability. 471 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: It's all It's going to be okay. We're going to 472 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: fix it. 473 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: Guys. 474 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: The season is over. If you keep thinking that way, 475 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: you want to play in October. You you don't want 476 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: Eric Schabaz to get fired. You don't want your friends 477 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: to get traded from the team. We saw for Cisco 478 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: Lindor show show more passion when he got booed and 479 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: giving the thumbs down. Then he has the last two seasons. 480 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: I love Francisco Lindoor, but I'm starting to get frustrated 481 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: that it seems like he's just not that guy, and 482 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: I hate to be that guy. 483 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: Think thinking, what fuck? 484 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: This team is annoying? Okay, all right, negativity done, negativity done. 485 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: The timers ten minutes are over. We've been viewing so 486 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: much negativity recently. That's for you, guys. If you want 487 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: to if you want more, let us know in the 488 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: comment section of the YouTube video. Drop a leke on 489 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: the video. That's the best way to show us that 490 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: you like this stuff. But we want to keep it 491 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: real too. Let's go ahead and start talking about some 492 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: actual things that are going on. Little housekeeping. Edwin Diaz 493 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: to the IL for a shoulder hingement, which is basically 494 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: code word for we just don't want him to pitch 495 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: right now. We need his head right go down to 496 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: Saint Lucy. Maybe I disagree with you on that. I 497 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: think a lot a lot of people are throwing out 498 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: the fakem like the fake injury thing. I think that 499 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I think I have something white in my hair. What 500 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: the hell is that in my hair? 501 00:21:58,560 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: Is that a white hair? 502 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: I mean there are some grays up there, but white hair. 503 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm breathing heavy after that. 504 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: D Yeah, we got to slow down. 505 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: That was I like that we put the clock on that. 506 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: Id of think that should be a thing that we 507 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: might we might be started doing with episodes. That was 508 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: a good idea, but it just shoulder impingement is the 509 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: exact injury that you would get if you've lost You've 510 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: lost your lower half and you're trying to air out 511 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: the velocity with your upper half. Which is why he's 512 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: still able to get ninety percent of the velocity ninety 513 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: five percent of the velocity used to have without the 514 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: life used to have because he's losing the drive, he's 515 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: losing the extension that it makes a lot of sense 516 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: for me. He can't generate that force from the bottom, 517 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: so now he's trying to put more on the shoulder, 518 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: and that would make sense for an impingement there. The 519 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: shoulder impingement that could be a very serious injury as well. 520 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: That could be an injury where we don't see what 521 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: isn't that what technically had I'm not sure. I think 522 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: that saying was a capsule thing, which a capsule is 523 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: like that, that's like a ted to ten in your 524 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: back shoulder. I don't know last Nick Pollock this week, 525 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: but I think a lot of Mets fans immediately went 526 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: to the fake injury thing. And also if it is fine, don't. 527 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, fine, yeah, totally okay, I would do it too. 528 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: But it just feels like to me, it's probably I'm 529 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: sure sure it is barking a little bit. I'm sure 530 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: it's similar to how we've seen Tyler McGill and Davebuts 531 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: and like try to pitch themselves through some slight injuries 532 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: because you just want to do it. But then it's like, 533 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: now you're actually now hurting you, yourself, a team and 534 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: everybody else as well. So should I throw out the 535 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: hypothetical that I was talking to you about in text 536 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: and see what the people are thinking about that just 537 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: start saying everything right? Yeah? 538 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 539 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: So I think that if the Mets are a serious 540 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: baseball team and don't care about the trumpets and whatnot. 541 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: Let's say Edwin ds comes back from the il, because 542 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: again it's not a serious injury, whatever it is, and 543 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: he starts to pitch. Well, I think the Mets would 544 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: be smart. I think they would be foolish not to 545 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: look to trade Edwin Diaz at the trade deadline. And 546 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: the reason being is that, again, a lot of these 547 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: problems with this team not David Stearns's fault as much as, 548 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: like I gues I said, Tyrone Taylor's been terrible. Most 549 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: of the guys that he's brought in have been good. 550 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: They've been the guys who have been actually performing on 551 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: this team. But David Searns, if you remember in Milwaukee, 552 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: did not want to pay Josh Hader. Now, of course 553 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: they were a little more budgetary strained over there, but 554 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: he was like, why would we pay all this money 555 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: to a reliever when we know theoretically there's a small 556 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: window that these guys are that good, and anytime they 557 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: are not elite, it is automatically one of the worst 558 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: contracts in all of baseball. So this isn't necessarily a 559 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: shot at Edwin Diaz, This isn't even a shot at 560 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: Billy Eppler for giving out the crazy contract. I just 561 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: think that if the Mets were smart and Edwin Diaz 562 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: comes back and he's pitching, well, don't be surprised if 563 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: the Mets try to move him at the trade deadline. 564 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: He would be somewhat valuable too to a team that 565 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: needs a back end closer, and getting rid of that 566 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: contract would really help the Mets. Best way to describe it, 567 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: Mets fans, I don't want to trade Edwin Diaz, but 568 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: that like twenty million dollars a year we spend on 569 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: him to be our closer, and we see what happens 570 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: when a guy is off, and it sucks because this 571 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: is not him and it's not fair to judge him 572 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: based on what we've seen. But that's the negative of 573 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: giving so much money to a guy that throws three 574 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: out to game, three outs a game. But like, even 575 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: like you have to think about extrappling overseas, and I 576 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: also don't I don't fully agree with you on this, 577 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: mostly just because I don't think anybody would trade for 578 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz's contract. I think it's such a foreign contract 579 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody would actually do it. But 580 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: because what you make twenty million dollars a year for 581 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the next four years. Yeah, so I think, and I 582 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: think four additional years including the rest of this one 583 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: on top of that. So I think that is basically 584 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: almost untradeable contracts you have, but you're just you're you're 585 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: paying guy as much money as as like mid level 586 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: starters get for pitching sixty innings a year, seventy innings 587 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: a year. So that's that that to me, is just 588 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: a luxury that you would like to think you'll be 589 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: able to afford, as the Mets in the wealthiest team 590 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: in baseball, but also just when a roster has so 591 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: many holes, and this was just an issue that the 592 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Mets got into in that twenty twenty twenty three offseason. 593 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: That is the exact thing that bad teams, bad front offs, 594 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: and bad franchises do, where you just you beat expectations 595 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: one time and then you reward everybody for it, everybody. 596 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: And that's not really a situation where it's like you 597 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: should never be paying for players or pass worms. You're 598 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: always paying the future performance. And there was nothing about 599 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: midaz and would made you think he would have been 600 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: good again. But the only thing is that the risk 601 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: is so great with every pitcher where if anything a 602 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit goes wrong and you're attached to these long 603 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: contract that's saying then it's over. Now I'm not saying 604 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: it it's over Fredman Diaz either, saying that it seems 605 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: like the twenty twenty two version of Edwin Diaz. And 606 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: this isn't saying a lot, because that's probably the best 607 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: season for a reliever most of us have seen in 608 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: our lifetimes. That's probably the best he will ever be, 609 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: and you paid him based on that, not based on 610 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: the next thing. And then now you look at a 611 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: case study a team like the Brewers, who this year 612 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: have built once again the best bullpen in baseball, and 613 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't think one guy in there makes a dollar 614 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: over the minimum legitimately. And I think that you're looking 615 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: at the Mets bullpen now that has mostly been very 616 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: good this year despite of him, with Diaz mostly being 617 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: very bad, and the guys who haven't been good at 618 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: the ones who are making legitimate money, Like this got 619 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: pieced together quickly without really much player development at all, 620 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: just guys with a little tinkering and little game plan 621 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: changes from the free agent market. So that's kind of 622 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: the logic of trade where trading Edwin Dias makes sense. 623 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: But also again I think unless you either eat a 624 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: significant portion of that money, you accept no return whatsoever. 625 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Who's taking that contract? Literally, who would ever take that contract? 626 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: Someone looking to hire Billy Upler maybe midseason? Who would 627 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: do that? He's just he's suspended anyway, he can't play 628 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: because all the phantom injury stuff full circle, Buck Show 629 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: Walter for that one. But it's just there's there's now, 630 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 1: there's that. I don't even think it's a tradable thing. 631 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: And again, out of all this the frustration I feel 632 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: with the Mets and the team, I don't have any 633 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: will all towards Davis Stearns because I think he generally 634 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: which is hilarious, It's actually was a pretty good offseason. 635 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: All the guys who were thinking of the guys who 636 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: are already here. Again, like the bullpen piece he pulled in, 637 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: Like Horry Lopez had massive regression recently, like that was 638 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: always do for that, But him just being a capable 639 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: arm is fine. Read Garrett. Again, I have some notes 640 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: on Recara We're gonna get to a little bit later 641 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: in the show. But again, overall, in the full season, 642 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: still totally fine. Yeah, Sevarino has been awesome and I 643 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: has been awesome. Jade Martinez, thank Imagine if they didn't 644 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: have him. Imagine those one through four stats. If Jadie 645 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Martinez wasn't hit and fourth, Well, just it's just that 646 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: it could have been a lot worse than just this. 647 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: They had a lot of constraints. It's been generally okay, 648 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: But just now I think the real work kind of 649 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: begins because now who the hell knows where those goes? 650 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: Like what if he actually did just shatter his hands. Yeah, 651 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: we can't talk about that long because we might be 652 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: wrong by the time this comes out, or will be right. 653 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: So we'll at the limit maybe another time. Two minutes 654 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: talking about if Pete choose your own adventure, if Pete's 655 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: hand is totally broken, because if it is, that dramatically 656 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: changes the way you can go about the trade that 657 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: right now, if he's out for six weeks and he 658 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't come back until July twentieth, now with you do 659 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: you can't? And then but if he doesn't hit one 660 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: home run like in from July twenty to July twenty seven, 661 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: now you have four days to trade him and people 662 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 1: might not even know what the fuck he is like, 663 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: It's just everything keeps going on and on and on 664 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: over and over again. I don't know how it gets. 665 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have any answers to you. 666 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: This team is an endless hell cycle. It's just a 667 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: loop of just like, good thing happens, psych never mind, 668 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: you fucking thought, nice, shry idiot, and then the good 669 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: thing happens like nope, you thought again, Nope, you can't 670 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: do it. 671 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Like they came back. They came back so nice. 672 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: In Game three today, Thomas Nito with that home run 673 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: zat Campbell somehow in the right spot at the right 674 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: time again the ball, Yeah, what was he doing there? 675 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: And at the eminem corner whatever they call it now? 676 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: They took quite the branding their fan engagement. But yeah, 677 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: if Pete's gone, it's it's gonna be hard to watch 678 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: this It's hard to watch this team play with him. 679 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be almost impossible to watch them play without him. 680 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: But it will be interesting because that probably frees up 681 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: a roster spot for somebody, maybe like a Louisan Helocunya. 682 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: We will talk about a little bit in the prospect report. 683 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: I also think that there's again it's just it's just 684 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: pure loser talk, but there's like there's something in the 685 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: fact that Pete does go on the IL and then 686 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: you could just have Vento's play first and Baby played third, 687 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: and now you have like a month to just give 688 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: those two at bats every single day and just save 689 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: her out. Who's gonna be a dog and rise to 690 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: the top because like Fiano's keeps hitting and break Baty 691 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: keeps playing good defense. Match if we could just like 692 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: mash them together, we could mash them together. We have 693 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: we have like a four win player, Like that'd be awesome. 694 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: But again it's still like Fianto's the first base I 695 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: think could be a fine defender. I still think Baby 696 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: there's inklings of him possibly almost being able to hit. 697 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: But it's it weirdly clear, cleans up the roster a 698 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: little bit, but also just it's still awkward. Also another 699 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: awkward thing. I was just just look at a baseball 700 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: they trying not to think about the Mets. So Dodgers 701 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: are playing the Mets right now in New York and 702 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: they're leaving today for they're gonna are gonna get in 703 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: their private play at what eight o'clock to fly back 704 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. That's if they're lucky. Probably nine o'clock 705 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: sounds horrible, and they have a game tomorrow or no, 706 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: I think they have an off dat tomorrow when they're 707 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: playing a home series this weekend against the Rockies. Okay, 708 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: on Monday, they're flying back to Pittsburgh for series against 709 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: the Pirates. Well next week and next weekend they are 710 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: in New York to play the Yankees. 711 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: That definitely the London series. 712 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure screwed things up with them trying to time 713 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: up being in New York both times at the same 714 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: time to play the Dodgers and or Yankees and Mets. 715 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: But that is bizarre. 716 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: And you know what, props to you, James, staying on 717 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: top of hate in the schedule. 718 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: You never miss. 719 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: Schedule, never miss every time I see something the schedule 720 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: is stupid. I'm always on because it's so fucking stupid. 721 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: But all right, let's talk about Tyler Lord baseball a 722 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: little bit, Yeah, a little little real baseball, because there 723 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: is something good going on and it's the guy that 724 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: we keep going back to. I tweeted it out. I 725 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: texted James, he's that ex girlfriend breaks up with you. 726 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: That's when Tyler McGill is bad, You're like, fuck this, 727 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm done with her. I can't do this anymore. And 728 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: then you know you're lonely, had a couple of beers 729 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: on a Friday night, maybe your friends are busy, You're 730 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: just hanging out at home, and you get hey, what 731 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: are you doing? And you're like, I'm back, baby, let's go. 732 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm so back in it. That's how I feel with 733 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: Tyler and McGill right now. But it's even more deep 734 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: indentse than that, because it's not just like you get 735 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: like a hey, how you doing, You're getting like a no, 736 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, I actually got a new job. I'm doing 737 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: this now. I went back to school. No like that friend, 738 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: me and I actually worked it out, like all these 739 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: red flags kind of started to go away a little bit. 740 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: And Tyler McGill's done that with you know, the slider's 741 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: getting better, changed the release point in the fastball, the 742 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: split there looks like a real pitch, Like he keeps 743 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: doing things. We're not just believing in Tyler and McGill 744 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: because Tyler McGill's existing and he's on the maut. We're 745 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: believing in Tyler and McGill because there are material changes 746 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: happening to the way that he's pitching, and that's like 747 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: the relevant thing. And he came out there and Tuesday 748 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: against the Dodgers, against all odds as bas this Mets 749 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: team has been and had the best start of his 750 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: entire career. There was that one time against the Phillies 751 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: the last year two years ago, we pitched into the 752 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: eighth inning, but it wasn't nine strikeouts, one walk, three 753 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: hitch nowhere and runs against this Dodgers lineup, against Freddie Freeman, 754 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: Mookie Betts, Will Smith and Shoheothani and especially even going 755 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: toe to toe with Tyler Glasnow, who's pitched this year 756 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: like the best pitcher in the National League. Yes, truthfully him, 757 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I guess him and Ranger Swaz too, but like he's been, 758 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: he's been the best pitcher in the National League. And 759 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: only one Dodger reached second base the entire game against him. 760 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: He was in total control. Was beautiful to watch. Yeah, 761 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: he the way he pitched was confident, and that's something 762 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: that we don't see a lot from Tyler McGill. I mean, 763 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: his nickname is literally big Drip because he is he's 764 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: a drip like he knows he's he's a little MOPy, 765 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: he's a little sad, he's a little. 766 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: Like, oh WHATEVERO. 767 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: Tyler McGill like very nice guy, loved the McGill family, 768 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: but he's big drip. He was on the mound, he 769 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: commanded the mound, and he really attacked the hitters. And 770 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing with ty Lore Attack, attack, attack. 771 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: That splitter is, like you said, just turning into a 772 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: really nice pitch. That seems to completely change him. 773 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: Now. 774 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: He threw six different pitches in this start, keeping the Dodgers' 775 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: hitters off balance. I know that the lineup top to 776 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: bottom is a little all over the place, but the 777 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: top has three MVP candidates and he was able to 778 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: give up zero earned runs against this team. Really really 779 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: impressed with what we saw from him. And again, that 780 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: fastball vlow is up too. When he's pumping ninety six. 781 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about it before. That's where you go, oh shit, 782 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: there he is. That's all that's like, Oh, she's been 783 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: working out a little bit, okay, especially because that fastball 784 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: was the key for McGill. He threw it from more 785 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: than half his pitches. He just filled his own with it. 786 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't really afraid. And something that I think I 787 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: like seeing from Tyler McGill that he hasn't done super 788 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: consistently in the past is that he was putting it 789 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: all over the strike zone, just depending on the hither 790 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: he was going high with it, he was going low 791 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: with it. He threw a few inside to rieties, which 792 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: is something he's resisted to do a lot in the past. 793 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: He did a couple of them, and he also went 794 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: very much inside to lefty, especially like staying in a 795 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: time's kitchen, which is kind of the one place to 796 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: get him out besides when he gets those risks around, 797 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: just does the crazy things he does. But that was 798 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: really cool. And then he is really we talked about 799 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: I talked about his release point being raised higher a 800 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: few starts to go. He's coming through the minor league 801 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: and that was helping life on that fastball, and he 802 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: had seventeen IVB in this start with that fastball. But yeah, good, 803 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: he was releasing it lower, He was extending way more 804 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: like he had one of the deepest extensions as I've 805 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: ever seen him. Having a start in this game and 806 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: the one game, the one game data on it so 807 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: just cool that he's doing this and he's finding his 808 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: release points. And when he again he did this change 809 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: start to start, but he was able to repeat it, 810 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: which is important. That means successful, That means he was comfortable. 811 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: That means he was doing it, and the depth of 812 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: his repertoire still makes becoming very relevant because the fastball 813 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: is good, but it's not like amazing. So when you 814 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: have that fast when you're throwing fifty percent of the time, 815 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: this has been the broken record thing with Tyler mcgills 816 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: that he needs things supplemented. And when he first came up, 817 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: it was a struggle because you really only had that 818 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: slider in that change up and everything else was kind 819 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: of just getting repetitive. And then when he faced lefties, 820 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: the slider was a little too big against them. It 821 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: was just kind of like two pitches to each side 822 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: of the play, basically fastball slide of the righties and 823 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: fastball change up to the lefties. But he threw five 824 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: different pitch types each side of the play, hitters from 825 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: each side of the plate, and then start on Tuesday 826 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: first lefties Otani free. Mostly it was mostly the fastball 827 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: to color and the splither, but he mixed in the 828 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: change up in the curve as well, and just that 829 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: nasty split lay against Gavin Lucks. He struck out four 830 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: of the last eight hithers he faced, retired the last 831 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 1: eight hithers he faced, and like that splither we talked 832 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: about a lot in last episode. He only threw five 833 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: of them, so I don't want to harp onto time 834 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: much again. But it's a major outlier pitch. It spins 835 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: basically less than every other pitch of baseball besides for 836 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: Matt Walder's knuckleball, and it moves more than every other 837 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: split there in baseball drops. So I think it's a 838 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: very relevant thing. It's tangible differences with Tyler McGill, which 839 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: is why we believe again, and as negative as we're 840 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: feeling about the rest of the team, like we're gonna 841 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: pick our little pockets to be excited about when there's 842 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: actually proof of the playing and things to be excited about, 843 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: I think a little bit Tyler McGill could be a 844 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: piece of. 845 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: That Yeah Messed Up podcast. 846 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: We're still gonna be more positive than most and I've 847 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: been I've been a little whiny bitch recently. So the 848 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: ten minutes of bitch. Yeah, it's just you know, No, 849 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: we did our ten minutes, can't I'm not saying anything more. 850 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything more. Ooh, I just got text 851 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: from my dad. He said Ron just said more or 852 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: less that the veterans JD, especially Lindor, may need to 853 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: talk with the team. 854 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: Interesting that I think. 855 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: I think that's true. I agree too, and I know they. 856 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: I think they asked Mendoza, Lindor and McNeil about it 857 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: yesterday too after the two games, like are you guys meeting? 858 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: Are you doing anything? And they gave answers like. 859 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: Well, we see each other every day, like where we 860 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: talk every day with each other's like, that's not what 861 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: we mean, guys, that's the problem again. Now we're sorry 862 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: to get back in the ramp, but this team is 863 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: on a sixty five win pace and no one's acting 864 00:35:59,680 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: like it. 865 00:35:59,880 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: No. 866 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: Oh, this isn't this isn't wake up time, This isn't 867 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: April anymore. It's gonna be June in two days. Like, 868 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: this is not a situation where we're like, you know, 869 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: I just I think I like gather things to get 870 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: a good duction in row. This is like, you have 871 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: three weeks to save the season. You have to get 872 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: within five games five hundred until the end of June. Basically, 873 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: we've never seen a Mets team fall apart this quickly 874 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: in this early in the season a lot. You might 875 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: leave some guys in London the next weekend might not 876 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: come back. Could you imagine this team's gonna be in 877 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: London with out Pie Alonso? Oh no, and the way 878 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: the the rotation works right now Toza Cantana schedule to 879 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: start in England. We want to grow the game against 880 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker, it's like the worst matchup ever. We don't 881 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: go to that game. Maybe we only go to the 882 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: Saturday maybe free tickets. Hopefully we will be in London 883 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: for everyone else out there, reach out to us. We're 884 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: going to be in London for the weekend. Yeah, we're 885 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: gonna try. Maybe even just text people can go to 886 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: the same pub or something the day of the day 887 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: of the Saturday game. But I don't know. Again, we're 888 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna look at some positive things. Tyler McGill's a place 889 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: to turn. But these veterans do have to do something. 890 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: What's going on with Ree Garrett because the back and 891 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: forth of what we've seen now over these last like 892 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: three or four appearances. I don't want to say I'm 893 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: losing faith in him, because again, he still has been 894 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: pretty good, but it feels now that he's back to 895 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: being human again, Like, so, what's the change here, what's 896 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: the difference? I would say there's definitely elements of him 897 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: back to being human again, But I don't think that 898 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: there's elements of him to back being like a bad Relieveryka. 899 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 1: All the stuff is still as it was, and even 900 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: like it's weird because it's something that's changed with him 901 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: is the approach, which is something that I'm shocked that 902 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: has changed because of how successful he was early. But 903 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I do think it's the situation where he was using 904 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: such a crazy approach to start the season. He was 905 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: just basically only throwing offspie pitches. He was leading with 906 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: splithers and sweepers and barely teeny tiny mixing in fastballs 907 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: and sinkers. So that I just think that hitters have 908 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: now prepared for that, because when you keep throwing splithers, 909 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: it's not a picture throwing the zone. It's a whift pitch. Yes, 910 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: So when hitters are ready that pitch is coming, they're 911 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: much less likely to swing add or in the case 912 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: of on Tuesday, Mookie Bets smoked one one ten and 913 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: split it. That was just off the play where I 914 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is this is different now. 915 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: But the hyper off speed usage, I feel like could 916 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: only work for a short amount of time until you 917 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: have to really throw your fastballs again. Matt Whistler tried 918 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: to do this through eighty percent sliders over like a couple, yeah, 919 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: a couple. Jacob juniors did this really well, where he 920 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: threw like sixty five percent sliders last year for the Giants, 921 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: and he was doing these like forty pitch samples. It 922 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: was actually he was a good glue guy for that rotation. 923 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: But it just if you don't have great command of it, 924 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. And the thing that Rigaires lost recently 925 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: is his command. He's been throwing more pitches outside the 926 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: strike zone, but now I'm just throwing more pitches outside 927 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: the strike zone. He's always still been throwing basically a 928 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: league average slightly blowout amount of pitches in the strike zone, 929 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: like zone rates like forty five percent. You made league 930 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: avera zone race forty eight percent. But he still couldn't 931 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: hit anything. He was basically running a one hundred percent 932 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: with right through the first entire month of April on 933 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: pitches outside the strike zone. So if anybody chased, if 934 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: anybody swung in the pitch out of side strike zone, 935 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: they weren't even touching it. They weren't foiling them off, 936 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: they weren't putting a play, and they definitely weren't getting 937 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: base hits on it. It was it was there were He 938 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: had a five straight start stretch where it was one 939 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent freight on pitches outside his zone through that 940 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: crazy round April, and there was one where it duck 941 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: down to like eighty because it's probably four out of five, 942 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: and then he went back up to one hundred for one. 943 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: It was a six as seven star stretch. That would 944 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: explain it too, because like again watching him, like not 945 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: diving into the numbers like you for this, watching him, 946 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: I feel like the hitters look more comfortable, like they 947 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: have more of a plan against him, and that that 948 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: builds into what you're saying, along with the fact that 949 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: not like you said, there's not really a change necessarily 950 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 1: how he's attacking guys, but he's not getting those chases, 951 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: which would explain why it feels like these at bats 952 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: are going longer and longer and longer totally and not 953 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: getting those chases early. That means he has to come 954 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: back to the fastball in the sinker that he wasn't 955 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: throwing as much because he's falling behind in the count 956 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: more often. So now he's throwing those pitches significantly more, 957 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: and he did, but the fastball is still good. It's 958 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: still thrown hard and it still has good life. So 959 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: it's confusing to me why that pitch is getting hit 960 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: so hard. Something. Maybe there's an adjustment back for Regarrett 961 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: where now he just starts throwing that fastball earlier in 962 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: the count and just maybe has more fight, like more balls, 963 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: would it more bite four and just does it. But 964 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: just the end of day, it's getting fewer swings and misses. 965 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: He there's a swinging against it much more. They're being 966 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: more aggressive, especially off pitches outside this He's still getting 967 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: a similar amount of chases, but a much higher rate 968 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: of contact on those chases, which is like, I think 969 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: they know that split there is going to be a 970 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: pitch that makes you want to swing at it, but 971 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: then hitters used to kind of be surprised and miss it. 972 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: Where now it's like you're ready for where it's going 973 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: to be, which is a lot of times just just 974 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: barely below outside the strike zone, and then those back 975 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: back to getting longer, more fastballs come. That's how the 976 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: walks come. I think he's still a really good reliever. 977 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: The commands of the law right now is probably a 978 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: one mechanical thing or just have to him get his 979 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: confidence back up or just fine too his game plan 980 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's just not the best believer 981 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: in baseball anymore. And just end of the day, that's 982 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: just really shit timing because right now the Mets need 983 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: April Regaret and if they had April Regarrett and just 984 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: and May Regarrett was in April, when they had April 985 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, they probably have like four more wins right now, 986 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: which is kind of shit that like at the same time, 987 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: you develop this reliever that become this like kind of 988 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: like this kind of lightning rode for this team early 989 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: and we said it, like we knew this was unsustainable 990 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: because Rigarrett had basically won them four games. So actually 991 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: maybe if they just had Mayrigarrett, then they lost those 992 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: four games, won these four games. So we just feel 993 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: a little bit better about the shape feels better, Yeah, 994 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: but the record probably still be about the same, worse 995 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: than the Oakland Athletics and just got awful. But he's 996 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: just it's terrible. It's it's bad again. I don't think 997 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell, I would go around see Rigers cooked. 998 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: He's just not the best reliever exploit anymore. Yeah, and 999 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: that's I think understandable. I think I think anybody who 1000 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: thought that he was gonna be the best reliever in 1001 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: baseball for the full year, you were probably also one 1002 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: of the people who thought the Mets were gonna win 1003 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: the World Series this year. Not there's not a big 1004 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: than diagram there. Gave up another run in the ninth inning. 1005 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: We lost ten to three. 1006 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: After through Jason Hayward, of all people, hit a home run. Dude, 1007 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: he had a homer and a triple. He had a 1008 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: home run off left to Josh Walker somehow Josh Walker. Man, 1009 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: I love Josh Walker, but boy, would does he not 1010 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: ever perform well? I think he's about ten innings this 1011 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: year in like a two seven yard right. He's not terrible, really. 1012 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: I guess he does balk in a couple of runs 1013 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: a year. That's probably where I'm also getting twisted too, 1014 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: And even the last real baseball thing to talk about 1015 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 1: here is just like David Peterson is always amazing numbers 1016 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: in the minor leagues as a twenty year old, and 1017 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: he's still exactly David Peterson, which is a fine guy 1018 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: to have in the roster, but he's not saving the. 1019 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 2: Day throwing harder. 1020 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: I know, Gary made a comment early he's like, we're 1021 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: seeing him throw ninety five more than I feel like 1022 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: I remember last year. 1023 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: So it actually was daz trip. 1024 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it went up a little bit like he 1025 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: was getting to ninety five, touch night, touch night, a 1026 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: fake ninety seven with the fastball ninety six and a half. 1027 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: But then by like he I guess there might be 1028 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 1: some miss mark pitches here on Savant because it says 1029 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: that he threw eighty five milion hour sinker in eighty 1030 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: five milidn hour fastball can't be right, so that, yeah, 1031 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: those could have been miss mark change. So I guess 1032 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: probably about a tick harder. But still I think that, yeah, 1033 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. Yeah, I mean, it's not like 1034 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: we can talk about the hitting. It was abysmal, non existent. 1035 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: It's not like twenty innings. They didn't score twenty innings. 1036 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Twenty innings, that's more than two full games. I was 1037 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: on the phone with my dad and he was telling me. 1038 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: He's like, I want to say it because I'm tired. 1039 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear Gary say. He's like, but 1040 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: let's have been scored in what twenty twenty one innings. 1041 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: As soon as he said that tolmas Neto home run, 1042 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: I was like, what did you just do? 1043 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 2: How did you do that? 1044 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: This is up threat. Keith had the same thing on 1045 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: the radio. And I also want to shout out Howie 1046 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: and Keith for the series because, like they they were 1047 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: just being very jovial in the booth. As bad as 1048 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: team was playing, Howie was so mad that the scoreboard 1049 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: was wrong, like the whole double better. On Tuesday, he 1050 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: was so pissed off. He was like, I don't know 1051 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: who runs a scoreboard. I don't know who's in charge 1052 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: of it. 1053 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 2: But they have to be better. 1054 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: It's being he says, been ridiculous the time after time 1055 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 1: of the season. It's been wrong. I was dying listen 1056 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: to that, dude, Howie Man, he's making sure top to 1057 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: bottom the organization's running well. I can tell you right 1058 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: now it's not. No, definitely not. And I think it 1059 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: ran that he He did say it ran better on Wednesday, 1060 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: so it works to how he rose effect. Maybe should 1061 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: say this should hit better. Yeah, maybe maybe they should 1062 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: hit better. They should get more timely hitting. You should 1063 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: put the ball and play more, maybe take less first 1064 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: pitch strikes down the cock of the plate. It's uh, 1065 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty tough to talk about this team, and 1066 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know what else to talk 1067 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: about here. And then there is one more thing, which 1068 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: sounds insane that there's one more thing to talk about 1069 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: this team. This teems so fucking bad, and we have 1070 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: more to talk about. The actually has to do with 1071 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: off the field and h James, I know, I saw 1072 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: you put it in the notes, Steve Cohen, casino stuff. 1073 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 2: What are we calling it? 1074 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: I'll call a drama, because there's something else going on 1075 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: off the field with this team right now now that 1076 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: I think is probably going to hold more importance to 1077 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: the team the organization itself in the future that has 1078 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: so far. So I'm sure you guys, Mark, you remember 1079 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: that huge proposal that went super viral because every single 1080 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: person associated with the Mets tweeted out that picture with 1081 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: the new parking and the park and all that new 1082 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: stuff in Queens that was supposed to be opening in 1083 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: the next few years. That was like Steve Cohen's huge proposal. 1084 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: It's dude, the Queen's Metropolitan Park in Flushing Bay. I 1085 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: was down on the Hard Rock in Fort Lauderdale and 1086 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: the dealer at my blackjack table was like, Oh, you're 1087 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: from New York. I heard they're open a casino right 1088 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: by a city field. I was like, that's the talk 1089 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: of the town. And the whole point of that is 1090 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: that it was a casino. But with the casino in 1091 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: the same proposal, there was a twenty acre park, There's 1092 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: a huge parking tower. There was a hard Rock hotel 1093 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: and other hotels by LaGuardia, a live music venue, a 1094 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: convention center, a Queen's based food hall, more bars, more restaurants, 1095 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,959 Speaker 1: a new totally revamped subway station for the seven Line, 1096 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: and tons of more stuff that was expected to cost 1097 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: an estimated eight billion dollars. That was the proposal, and 1098 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: this was kind of the whole brain child around Steve 1099 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: Cohen purchasing the team. Initially that we were going to 1100 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: revamp the Flushing area, no more chop shops, NYCFC, METS 1101 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: casino is gonna be a whole spoiling experience. But the 1102 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: whole thing was fully contingent on him getting this casino 1103 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: license that's up for grabs in New York City. And 1104 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: this casino license up for grabs in New York City 1105 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: right now, Like you guys might think that sounds crazy, 1106 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: it's because of this. This doesn't really ever happen in 1107 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: New York City. Like there's there's a couple of these 1108 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: up for grabs. A couple of them are going to 1109 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: places that are like racing tracks, but there's one that's 1110 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: actually set to go for the city. And Eric Adams 1111 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: is vehement that he wants the mayor of New York. 1112 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: He wants a casino New York City. Said over and 1113 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: over again, he used to work for the Gaming Commission. 1114 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: He ran into some issues when he headed up the 1115 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: Gaming Commission. We're not gonna talk about that right now, 1116 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: but again, this is like a once in a lifetime 1117 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: chance for a billionaire to the New York City. You 1118 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: will print money literally forever. Literally, you'll print money forever. 1119 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: There's a quote from a quote from a New Yorker 1120 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: article that is behind a paywall. But if you guys 1121 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: ever have an articles behind a paywall some websites, if 1122 00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: you want to, I taught Mark this trick. If you 1123 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: want to be really like Hope sim Heals not listening 1124 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: since how I read his articles, you gotta quickly refresh 1125 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: the page and then quickly you gotta have fast fingers 1126 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: command at command see select all copy and then you 1127 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: bring it right to a Google doc and you can 1128 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: read articles behind a paywall. So that's a trick for 1129 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: you guys. That's an easy one from James over here. 1130 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: But I let your ga redskin stuff And the quote 1131 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: was an unfathomably, unfathomably lucrative license. Of coursefath just to 1132 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: get this license, you have to put up five hundred 1133 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: million dollars half a bill up front, and then you're 1134 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: accepting nearly a seventy percent tax on everything you make. 1135 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: And still every single fucking mover and shaker of the 1136 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: ruling class of New York is gunning for this casino. 1137 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 1: And Steve Cohen's at the top of that list. 1138 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: So what's the what's the new news? 1139 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: Because I saw there was a big article that came 1140 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: out about there might be some issues now with the casino, 1141 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: and it got my brain thinking of some crazy conspiracies. Yeah, 1142 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: mine too, especially from formally being a politics guy, but 1143 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: like technically officially, because nothing's ever technical or official in politics, 1144 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: as you always have ways around. The bid for the 1145 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: casino in Queens and Flushing By City Field has been 1146 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: blocked by State Senator Jessica Ramos, who's a state Senator 1147 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: for Queens, and she just plainly said in a statement 1148 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: that her constituents do not want a casino in her backyard. 1149 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: And personally, I would agree with those constituents. I definitely 1150 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: would not want to live within a half a mile 1151 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: of casino. Casino will invite unfavorable characters to your area 1152 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: and it'll just leave Yeah, like Mark, it'll leave your 1153 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: citizens in worse situation, probably financially because it's easy to 1154 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: gamble and people love to ruin their lives gambling. So 1155 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: it's probably not I wouldn't want one in buy backyard. 1156 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 1: And this doesn't mean it's over, because there can always 1157 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: be a power player can knows, the lobbyst stuff that 1158 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: can knows be something that happens. But this is from 1159 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 1: the new York Times article about it. Ms Ramos said 1160 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: that mister Cohen's team has made unforced errors during their 1161 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: process that frustrated her, and that the group had hired 1162 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: so many lobbyists and experts that it was hard to 1163 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: find someone who wasn't already on their payroll. She said 1164 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: she would be surprise and offended if any of her 1165 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: colleagues in the State Center tried to go around her. So, basically, 1166 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: if Steve was able to create the majority to overrule 1167 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: her ruling in her area. And Steve has tons of yeah, 1168 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, of course he is. He has tons of 1169 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: lobbyists on deck. And I think it's interesting to note 1170 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: because it kind of starts to put to light a 1171 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: lot of other things that have happened with his team, 1172 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: this organization just Steve Cohen's ownership of Initially. First of all, 1173 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: he was a massive donor to the Eric Adams campaign. 1174 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: All these donations are public, you guys, go look up. 1175 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: He's one of the highest donors to ericatins campaign a 1176 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: few years ago. Remember remember with COVID, the whole, the 1177 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: whole thing with the COVID games and playing in New 1178 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 1: York City, And if you weren't vaccinated and all of 1179 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: a sudden like well for the Mets and Yankees there, 1180 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: all right, that's what I'm saying. But again, he he's 1181 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: a big political donor, I mean want to he've billions 1182 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: of dogs. You should be donating the politicians who will 1183 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: help your interest. But that's just that's just the game. 1184 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: He's just playing the game. You can't hit, don't hate 1185 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 1: the player, I hate to get the game. But he's 1186 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: been so generous to Queen's, Queen's locals, the Mets employees, 1187 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: and it's great. He's made a lot of people's lives 1188 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: significantly better in the few years that he's on those team. 1189 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: Technically ours included, tons, we were part of the generosity 1190 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: for a little while in arm pockets, right, He's invested 1191 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,479 Speaker 1: a lot of money in that areas around the city field. 1192 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: He's already made it better. The chop chapter going away, 1193 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: the NYCFC, they've already broken ground on that. And that 1194 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: is miss Ramos's district. So there was this kind of 1195 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship between the two, which I'm sure is because 1196 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: Steve knew that eventually she would have kind of as 1197 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: close to an official save whatever would happen in the 1198 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: past year along with Eric Adams, who's been part of 1199 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 1: the Game and Commission, who again just googled Eric Adams 1200 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: because he knows Eric Adams Gaming Commission. You guys will 1201 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: find some stuff there we're not gonna talk about here. 1202 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: And there was even something that Steve Cohen was instrumental 1203 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: with working with Ramos years ago that was crazy and 1204 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: like we'll change baseball forever. He was instrumental in starting 1205 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: to set up the Minor League Baseball Players Unit. Basically 1206 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: was had a huge hand doubling minor league players' salaries. 1207 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: Ramos broker the first meeting between Steve and the advocates 1208 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: from minor leagues in twenty twenty two. It was the 1209 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: first meeting of its kind ever to get minor league 1210 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: players more rights and more money. And this is from 1211 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: Athleticgardland June twenty twenty two by Evan Drove. Since Steve 1212 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: Cohen took ownership of the Mets in twenty twenty, he 1213 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: has been so responsive to the fans and cared for 1214 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: the team in a way that matches our devotion to 1215 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: the team. Ramo said in the statement, I'm looking forward 1216 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: to sitting down with Uncle Steve. She called him Uncle 1217 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: Stephen this quote to the athletic and the minor leaguers, 1218 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: so we can work out a way to finish the 1219 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: job and extend that same sense of care to all 1220 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: the players. And it happened, It worked, and Steve was 1221 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: the one who kind of greased the wheels and let 1222 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 1: Senator Ramos kind of do that. That was pretty instrumental 1223 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: for her. And now it's interesting because she's been really 1224 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: in the spotlight with Steve Cohen. She's probably planning a 1225 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: mayor run because of how low Ergain's approval rating is, 1226 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 1: and this is another kind of stake in the ground 1227 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: for her, especially with her base, her constituents and just 1228 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: being a progressive Democrats it is. But again, we're not 1229 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna get into all that really. Now we want to 1230 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: talk about what this means for the Mets, because I 1231 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: think both you and I mark our brains kind of 1232 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,319 Speaker 1: started twirling with this. I think your dad's did as well. 1233 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: He chimed in too. But I think it's interesting now 1234 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: Steve stonewalled. He's probably gonna try and get around this 1235 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: anyway he can, with his lob, with his money, with everything. 1236 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: But I wonder now if this relationship with him, and 1237 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: Ramos is hurt. What this means for the generosity we've 1238 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: already seen. I'm not I'm not saying that anything's gonna change, 1239 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: but I'm just doing my Brian Winhorse right now, Like, 1240 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: what if this is happening? Like what can we actually 1241 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: expect to happen next? Why is this all happening right now? 1242 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't really know the answer to that, but it 1243 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: seems like something that was a huge reason why Steve 1244 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: Cohen bought the Mets might no longer be possible. 1245 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 2: Can I go get some aluminum foil it? Put it 1246 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:32,399 Speaker 2: on real quick? 1247 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: You permission to go there? Okay, let me do that, 1248 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: all right? We got the tinfoil hat on. I've been 1249 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: I've been deep in the conspiracy theory for this one here. 1250 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: And you talked about maybe Steve Cohen purchasing the Mets 1251 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: was not only about purchasing the Mets, and I tend 1252 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: to believe it, and I have this horrible, terrible gut 1253 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: feeling tinfoil hat on. Of course, this is crazy talk. Now, 1254 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: this is this There's nothing real to this. This is 1255 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: simply me being so messed up in the head as 1256 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: a Mets fan. If Steve con doesn't get this casino. 1257 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: If this whole project doesn't happen, probably sells the Mets, right, 1258 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: I can't say probably. Wait, his whole thing was he 1259 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of wanted to buy S and Y too, and 1260 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't own S and Y. And if he's not 1261 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: gonna have the media company, he owns a mediocre baseball team, 1262 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: which they are right now, and he doesn't get the 1263 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: big casino. 1264 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: Why he doesn't need to own this team. 1265 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: He has no interest. I mean, like for those of 1266 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: you whn't know money and tried to buy the Dodgers 1267 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: like it wasn't like the Mets were always the number 1268 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: one team that he necessarily wanted. 1269 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: So I don't know this. The pieces are coming together, 1270 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 2: like you said, Brian Windhorst. 1271 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, and ten years from now Steve Cone goes 1272 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: like seventy, I don't need to deal with this shit. 1273 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm out, Like this is too much work. 1274 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm good just losing money year after year is still 1275 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 1: having the ire of half the fan base. It's in 1276 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: Ramos's denial of the proposal, she reproposed back to Steve 1277 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: to basically be able to do every single thing he said, 1278 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: just with a bigger convention center, I think, an extra hotel, 1279 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: just the whole thing with no casino. So that's kind 1280 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 1: of her putting the ball back in his court, like 1281 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: do you want to help this community? Did you want 1282 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: to do this for the land, Like I think a 1283 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: big reason for buying the Metro Steve Cone was the 1284 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: fact that they were largely an untapped market because in 1285 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and one of the big 1286 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: ways was baseball. We've talked about that a lot. In fact, 1287 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: the will Ponds never had an analytics apartment. The Mets 1288 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: didn't use any data. They basically just scouted and then 1289 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: just hoped for the best. That was they did for 1290 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: the past like fifty years of existence as a franchise, 1291 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: and it worked twice kind of, but that was really it. 1292 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: So then Steve was like, Okay, like we have all 1293 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: this land, We're in New York City, We're on a 1294 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: subway line. This casino license going to be up for 1295 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: grabs in a for years. I have the most money 1296 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: and the most political power to do something about this. 1297 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 1: I can turn this whole area into like a happy 1298 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: fun land. And while I do this, I have my 1299 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: baseball people, and hopefully within five to ten years, this 1300 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: baseball team becomes a happy fund baseball team. And this 1301 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: is just something that everybody wants to do. Like similar 1302 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: to where the battery is in Atlanta, where it's not 1303 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 1: really in Atlanta, everyone's willing to go there and spend 1304 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: some time. Like you could just fly into New York. 1305 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: You could just hang out in like the Mets Complex, Yeah, 1306 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 1: the Mets area, and like you could basically never Its 1307 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: crazy to think about because of what we all have 1308 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: known it as our whole lives. But the idea for 1309 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: this is you could fly into La Guardia, you could 1310 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: never leave Flushing, and you could have an amazing weekend 1311 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: of Mets. You can go through a couple of games, 1312 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: you can go to the Queen's Authentic food hall. Like 1313 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: maybe you can take one subway ride into Manhattan for 1314 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: the day just to see it. But like you could 1315 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: be you could take a New York trip that's solely 1316 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: dedicated to the Mets. Like that was a dream, that 1317 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: was the idea, that was the plan. So that's a 1318 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: soccer game exactly everything it's gonna be. It seems like 1319 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: it might be a bit of a pissing contest now 1320 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: between Steve and the State of New York, which I 1321 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: think is gonna be fun. And if that this keeps happening, 1322 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: and even if the ship's under the radar, you know 1323 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna cover this whole podcast because Marscow and Tinfoil had. 1324 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: I love politics. I think it's fascinating and all this 1325 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: shit is fun. I think there's some of the most 1326 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: fun shit we used to talk about back in the 1327 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: day in the show, especially with like the labor negotiations 1328 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: and all this shit that was going on behind the scene. 1329 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: It's just it's kind of a weird moment that's being 1330 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: overshadowed because of how much other shit is happening with 1331 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: this team, how bad they are. We have the player 1332 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 1: just say it's the worst teammate on the worst team, 1333 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: threw his glove into the crowd, the team can't win 1334 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: a game. It's insane shit. But there's definitely something for 1335 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: everybody to watch, and I think something that the stories 1336 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: can develop a lot because maybe this all is over. 1337 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: Maybe Steve just says, Okay, I'm not gonna get the casino, 1338 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: like I'll take your I'll take your proposal, and we're 1339 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,759 Speaker 1: gonna have a great time in Queen's and then because 1340 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: the other proposal, I think the ones who are leading 1341 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: for this casino thing now without Steve is the win. 1342 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna build like a massive casino in Hudson Yards. 1343 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be like a massive indoor like luxury casino, 1344 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: which is gonna be insane. And just James Dolan wins 1345 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: again that that fuck bastard. He literally can't knock the 1346 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: guy off his fucking eye oars. But I wonder how 1347 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: is it gonna materialize here? I wonder how it's gonna 1348 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: affect the Mets. There's a world where it does, and 1349 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: that's so fine. 1350 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 2: God damn it. 1351 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: I hate this team so much. I hate so much, 1352 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: and it's an endless hell loop. Oh my god. Even 1353 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: when it's not about baseball, it's always about baseball. It's 1354 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 1: always about the Mets. All right, this has been an 1355 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: eventful episode. You want to talk about prospects real quick? 1356 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: We got time to talk about prospects. Yeah, definitely gonna 1357 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: do a bit of a short the prospect port fore 1358 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: you guys. This episode was just insane to begin with, 1359 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: and this week of meek two weeks month of Mets 1360 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 1: baseball is insane. And we also I think on Friday, 1361 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: because marketing being a little slow out of there, we're 1362 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: gonna have marketized top ten prospects in the Mets system 1363 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: ready to go. It's a week after recorded, so the 1364 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: stats won't be like perfectly exact, but all the same ideas, 1365 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: all the same concepts. I think it's a lot of 1366 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: really really good stuff in there, but just a quick 1367 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: check in for the week of Mets minor leaguers as 1368 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: we go. I think the big thing is happy right now. 1369 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: You see a lot of people talking about on Twitter 1370 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 1: is Luisan Helicunya has finally gotten hot this month, basically 1371 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: the last couple of days since May eighth. He's hitting 1372 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: three twenty nine with three seventy two on base percentage 1373 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: of four to forty three, slugging with six doubles and 1374 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: eight stolen bases. But that sounds really good, but it's 1375 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,320 Speaker 1: kind of hilarious because triple A is so easy to 1376 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: hit it and hitters are having such a good time 1377 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: there that those numbers is only one twelve WRC plus 1378 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: that's crazy. So even with the a three third of 1379 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: the average at three seventy two on base and four 1380 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 1: to forty slug he's only twelve percent back in the 1381 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: league average, and he only hit one home running that 1382 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: time too, But I think that's not the issue. The 1383 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: bats of ball is still really good. I'm to talk 1384 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: about that a lot of the top ten prospect stuff, 1385 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: but just please get some relaxed. People are yelling for 1386 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: this goutyta be called up right now. He's not even 1387 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: close to being major league ready. I think if he 1388 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: gets called up now, it could be detrimental his entire career. Yeah. 1389 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 2: I yelled about him getting called up earlier, so. 1390 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean you're part of the problem. 1391 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm part of the problem. I'm just I don't know. 1392 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm I need this to be fair. When I said 1393 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 1: that earlier, again, that was part one of the recording. 1394 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,919 Speaker 1: Need a little juice, Pablo Lo fucking I did it again, 1395 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: Jorge Lopez. Goddamn it, Oh my god, Jorge Lopez really 1396 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: gave me some juice here at nine to five at night, 1397 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: after the after the game was over for. 1398 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: An hour and a half, it was that's crazy. Whatever, 1399 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 2: We're past it, all right. Prospect report. 1400 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: Jet Williams still hurt, not great, got another quarter zone shot. 1401 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: Surgery might be on the table, which means a lost year, 1402 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: which is not detrimental to Jet William's future success. But 1403 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: boyle boy, does it slow it down and it sucks. 1404 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: And it's just a guy who is really flying through 1405 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: the minor leagues, flying through the rankings and everything. You 1406 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: don't want to slow him down anytime soon. Drew Gilbert 1407 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: also should be back playing again in a couple of weeks. 1408 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: I know he's coming back from what I'm sure, yeah, 1409 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: hamstring injury that's just been kind of nagging him along. 1410 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 1: And boy, as we talked about, the Mets could use 1411 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: it because they've got two outfielders that are not even 1412 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: Triple A players right now the way they're playing, So 1413 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert can't come back soon enough. But Double A, 1414 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: your boy, Brandon sprot keeps on chugging along. The Sproke 1415 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 1: coat is so good. He's the man, Dude's his last 1416 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: two starts to Double A, he could plee A seven 1417 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: innings both times. And something that I think people have 1418 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: called to be like throwing some throwing some water on 1419 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: the fire brandons Sprote this year is the fact that 1420 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: he's not as much of a strike thrower. He went 1421 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: through sixty one percent strikes and it's time in Brooklyn. 1422 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: Despite striking everybody out and having a very low ERA, 1423 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 1: but he's up that strike rate. It's almost seventy percent 1424 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: now in double A, sixty seven point three percent. Curtsey 1425 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: Chris Clegg roto Clegg toiter, friend of mine. Actually just 1426 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: had just had a today. He had the baby came 1427 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: fast and him his wife had to get birth in 1428 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 1: their house to couldn't get to the hospital on time. 1429 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: That is terrifying. Shit, Oh my god, insane. He said that. 1430 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, congratulations, that's horrifying. But back to 1431 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: Brandons brot one point four two ERA in the season 1432 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: and again, guys, this is just this is the twenty 1433 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: twenty three Christians got treatment. He is on the fast track. 1434 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: I called this shit to a t in the offseason. 1435 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: It happened perfectly. And just keep pitching Double A, just 1436 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: keep dominating Double A, keeps tracking guys out, keep those 1437 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: walks down, and he will be the top one hundred prospect. 1438 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,959 Speaker 1: We ordained him to be. Nolan McLean up in Double 1439 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: A as well. Finally getting a little bit of a 1440 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,479 Speaker 1: challenge here. Through two starts, nine innings, five earned, two walks, 1441 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: nine k's and it's it's a good challenge. This is 1442 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that should be happening early on 1443 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: for a guy like Noelan McLean, who again was a 1444 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 1: relief pitcher in college, swinging the bat, being a two 1445 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: way player doing it on both sides of the ball. 1446 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: The five urn runs, I guess is the thing to 1447 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: worry about. But nine strikeouts and two walks like that 1448 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: to me is where I go in nine innings. Pretty good, 1449 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: pretty good start for Nolan M. McLean Double A. I 1450 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's anything to be worried outor per se, 1451 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: No totally. Again, I remember if we said in the 1452 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: top ten prospects or last week in the prospect Report, 1453 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: but I think it was like eleven total starts since 1454 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: he was in high school before reaching double A. So 1455 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, like anything that happens in double A 1456 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: right now for nolman Clean this year is basically how fun. 1457 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 2: Just keep developing. 1458 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: It's amazing, blade tidwell, my boy. He keeps continuing to 1459 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: look pretty good in triple A, which is super encouraging. 1460 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Through his first two starts, five and two thirds, three 1461 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: hits to earn, four walks, three k's and then six innings, 1462 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: four hits, zero earned, four walks, two K So we 1463 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: see there's walks. That's definitely a thing with Blade here, 1464 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: getting little bit more walks in the strikeouts. Not getting 1465 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: the swing and miss which had always been the thing 1466 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: that even Matt Eddie had talked about. It is like, 1467 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 1: we don't know if he's gonna be able to get 1468 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: those swings and misses at the higher levels as he 1469 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: goes up and up. But we do have some stack 1470 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: cast data, and James, you're the perfect guy to talk 1471 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: about it so much. Stackcast day. I'm so excited for 1472 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: this Blaye Tenable stuff. And even before we get to 1473 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,640 Speaker 1: that day, that's just like seeing those walks and track 1474 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: out numbers. I caution people not to get worried because 1475 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: he is in triple A for the first time. The 1476 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: two things we know about Triple A right now is 1477 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: that the hitters hit the shuit out of the ball. 1478 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: The ball is probably different. I think the league wide 1479 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: ops there is basically over eight hundred and two. He's 1480 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: probably using yell and mac ball and strikes on ball 1481 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,439 Speaker 1: and strikes the first time he ever had in his career. 1482 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: So that's just a hard thing to get used to 1483 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: that could lead walks to going up, strike guys to 1484 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: go down, and runs to go up. He's still been 1485 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: able to keep runs off the board, which is cool. 1486 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: But the statcast date is really really interesting, and a 1487 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of this is just like me doing my little 1488 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: IVV calculations, but also my guy TJ Stats Thomas Neestica, 1489 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: who I think we're gonna have on the podcast soon 1490 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: whenever the best play the blue Jays. He's a he's 1491 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: a Blue Jays guy, amazing. He does his little rite ups. 1492 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 1: He's a little grafts and charts after basically every single 1493 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: start in baseball. He'll make you a player card if 1494 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: he just asks for it. He's a man. But that 1495 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: first start really implused me for Brady because he was 1496 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: sitting ninety five ninety six to that fastball seventeen inches 1497 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: inverd vertical break. It's a really good life, good hoppy 1498 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: action even with his like downwards sloping release. So Jet 1499 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: just means like, how much backs me he is getting 1500 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: in That ball was good. And then his philosophy dropped 1501 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,439 Speaker 1: a little bit in the second start, and the IV 1502 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 1: went down and it made the fastball look worse. It 1503 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: made them more septible getting hit, and he got many 1504 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: less swings and misses on it, so that that range 1505 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: of his fastball is probably the difference in Blade tidwell 1506 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 1: of being like a two to three starter versus like 1507 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: a back end four or five like kind of swing 1508 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: man kind of things. So it's just something that I'm 1509 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: sure he's very focused on. I'm sure he's working on 1510 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm sure the organization is working on a lot. 1511 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: As much as everything with this team right now is 1512 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: bad dog shit. This pitching development, I can't. We must 1513 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: trust it. It must be trusted at all costs. But 1514 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: everything that jaegersn't have to are doing are great despite 1515 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the complete incompetency of every the other fast to the organization, 1516 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: So just keep on that right now. And then I 1517 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: talked about it, and he talked about Blade and some 1518 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: reporters that he was really excited about his color that 1519 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 1: falls right between his big sweeper and his fastball, and 1520 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: he's been throwing it a lot to slide the sweeper 1521 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: and the color of both great auts. Plus he's mixing 1522 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: in the change up in the curveball got a five 1523 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: pitch mix. It's something that we I think could be 1524 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: developed very nicely as we stay at Triple A. 1525 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we love Blade over here. 1526 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Blade the stud last guy to talk about Nick more 1527 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: Robido continues to keep crushing. We got a new hardest 1528 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: recorded ball in play of his career at one oh 1529 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: six point eight, which again in that at that level 1530 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: for his age, super encouraging stuff. Gonna get stronger, gonna 1531 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: get bigger, whatever it's gonna be. You expect those to 1532 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: keep going up and up and up. And he's hitting 1533 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: nearly three fifty in Brooklyn with twelve soul bases in 1534 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: seventeen games, like you kind of just can't ask for 1535 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: anything more. Keep going through the levels, keep playing well, 1536 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,439 Speaker 1: keep moving on up. Yeah, that's interest. Can keep shouting 1537 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: h out because he keep playing really well. He's one 1538 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: of the best performing minor leaguers in the entire league 1539 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: so far this season, which is amazing, one of the 1540 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: highest on base percentages. And again Light prosper Report Crazy 1541 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: episode and our new Top ten Prospects coming out on 1542 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Friday on Friday, so keep a lookout for that on 1543 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the YouTube channel Mets the Podcast. Go subscribe over there 1544 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: now for games that the Mets will be playing. Yeah, yeah, 1545 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even this sucks. I don't even 1546 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: like thinking about this team playing. Do you know what 1547 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it really sucks is that, like I this is the 1548 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: first time in years that I like, I see the 1549 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Mets on the schedule, and like, I don't really even 1550 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 1: want to go. 1551 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 2: I have no desire. I like I want. 1552 01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: I like the Diamondbacks, me and you both snakes alive. 1553 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Snakes Alive. We went to the World Series. I went 1554 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: to the NLCS, got to see them make their run. 1555 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Shoutout Dalton, out in Arizona, shout out co. But yeah, 1556 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I have no interest in going to watch, especially with 1557 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: like Corporid Carroll's plague about as bad as anybody in 1558 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball is. Like that was one of the 1559 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: guys I wanted to see play, and he's been playing terribly, 1560 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: But that means he's gonna get hot, Surely, I don't 1561 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: know corpor Carrele's. I'm actually worrisome trends right now and 1562 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: everything is profile because you remember last year against the 1563 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,280 Speaker 1: Mets in that series, right before the All Star break, 1564 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: he got hurt, shoulder popped out, and corpan Carroll's always 1565 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: been fascinting because he's a smaller guy who generated power 1566 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: and came out basically as an MVP candidate right away, 1567 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: like leader of that team, great, great defensive centerfield or 1568 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,919 Speaker 1: lead off hitler with power, one of the fast guys 1569 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: in baseball, and just hasn't been the same since that moment. 1570 01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: I had it in my like crazy twather thread that 1571 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: went viral the other night, which was crazy fun. That 1572 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: was that thing was awesome. You guys haven't seen that 1573 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: checking I got five million impressions on that two thousand followers. 1574 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: It's insane. I can't. I could't. I couldn't believe those 1575 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: numbers of people. I had friends texting me like, wow, 1576 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: dude saw the tweet. I was like thanks, Like, I 1577 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: don't even know, but I want to find the exact 1578 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: staff for Carrol because it's shocking. Six home runs in 1579 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 1: his last one hundred and thirteen games and a negative 1580 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: five run value against fastballs when last year I think 1581 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,959 Speaker 1: it was like plus ten. Yeah, so Mark de Rosa 1582 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: to do a breakdown. He can't because of it, that 1583 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: shoulder thing. He can't get on the fastball. Everything he's 1584 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: underneath it. And we've seen how much a shoulder and 1585 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 1: drew can derail a young players progress with Michael cant 1586 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: four though years and years and years ago, because shoulders 1587 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: instrumental hitting mechanics are so fascinating to me, Like I 1588 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: we've had so much data on pitching for so many years. 1589 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel like even as not someone that ever pitched 1590 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,919 Speaker 1: right at a high level or even even past youth, 1591 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: like I can, I can conceptualize what it means to 1592 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: like create like create force from like the bottom half 1593 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 1: and like generate the power and like pitch. Yeah, hitting, 1594 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: I just can't even I can't. I don't even know 1595 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: how many things do you think you pitched in your life? Oh? 1596 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: Under thirty? Okay, that's interesting, maybe fifty. Yeah. I used 1597 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: to love pitching it in town. I had one little 1598 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Slyde there. He's just that feels that James being a 1599 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: craft crappy slider guy like I would throw like every 1600 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: bitch yeah, and of fucking a three finger slag, try 1601 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 1: and change hum. But I couldn't grow hard. I had 1602 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: no arms strike. That was my whole fang in baseball. 1603 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: But I think is crazy to me. I feel like 1604 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: it's so much fun with all the new bat tracking 1605 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 1: stuff on stack cast and now like it gives us 1606 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more insight to hitting, and maybe it's 1607 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: still not even a complete picture. I think real learn 1608 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: morevek like we see bat pads, but seeing like swing 1609 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 1: lanks in different parts of the zone and seeing different 1610 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,919 Speaker 1: guys with bassbeat. And Carol still has the bat speed, 1611 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: which makes me think the same power hitter is still there. 1612 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 1: But it's just he doesn't feel right from that shoulder 1613 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: and that's bad. 1614 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 2: So pitching matchups, I'm seeing that there aren't Eddy. Is 1615 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 2: that correct? 1616 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: No, I have him right now. 1617 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 2: We got him. 1618 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: So Thursday night we have an actual ace off and 1619 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: again this is a game we're like love to be there, 1620 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: but like the fact that the Rangers are playing and 1621 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: the way this team is, it's just like I can't. 1622 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I can't spend my hard and time and money city 1623 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: field right now. But Christian's got for zac Allah. That's 1624 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the reason to go to the ballpark. And then Friday night, 1625 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Luisa renovers Jordan Montgomery. Saturday, in the next game, the 1626 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Mets are gonna lose in their city connect Jersey show 1627 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 1: me and Iyah versus I think Blake Walston's his first name. 1628 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: And then Sunday and emerging Acet Oh yeah, Blake Walston. Yeah, wow, interesting, Okay, Yeah, 1629 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and then Tyler McGill versus Brandon fought on Sunday afternoon 1630 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 1: and Saturday four ten is the Darrel Strawberry number of retirement. 1631 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 1: So it couldn't be better vibes for that. No, it's 1632 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: it's a real shame that the Mets had two all 1633 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 1: time greats in their organization and chose to retire their 1634 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: number in one of the worst seasons that no one 1635 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: gives a shit about, and and doing it for not 1636 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 1: good in April. Yeah, Rain, Yeah, I've never I've never 1637 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: heard of any team ever in the history of baseball 1638 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: retiring a number in April and engaged for the Mets, 1639 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,200 Speaker 1: engaged the Mets to try to fill that ballpark up. 1640 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks are playing terribly. I don't even care anymore. 1641 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: It's it's I don't give a ship. Gabrielle Moreno has 1642 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 1: been horrendous about as bad as possible. 1643 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 2: Tip my cap on that one. I've been all over that. 1644 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: He's like twenty three, and he's still a great defensive catchers. 1645 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 2: They fell off. I think he fell off defensively too. 1646 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: This year. I saw all his defensive range, so good. 1647 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,919 Speaker 2: Then I'm wrong on that part, but he's. 1648 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: A good ball player. 1649 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 2: He's okay. 1650 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Christian Walker can tell Marte have really been carrying this 1651 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: offense along with Jock Peterson, Who's gonna hit two or 1652 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 1: three home runs this weekend. 1653 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 2: There's no doubt. 1654 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: Crazy those guys. He's gonna get one off. Christian Scott, Yeah, 1655 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,919 Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys have been really carrying the offense. Otherwise, 1656 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 1: like Corbyn, Carroll has been bad. Lord Is Gariel after 1657 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: being unreal hot to start these seasons, shocker, not gonna 1658 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: be Suarez horrible. They're playing Kevin Newman every day at 1659 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: shortstop because of injuries. Guys like Randall Gritchick, Tucker Barnhardt, 1660 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 1: and Peven Smith are getting at bats. This is an 1661 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: unbelievably beatable diamondback scene, like crazy beatable. This is gonna 1662 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: be a real fun test. I think the Mets have 1663 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: a super dangerous opportunity here to lose how many in 1664 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a row if they keep playing like they are. One 1665 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: one the other day, didn't they We've lost. Yeah, we've 1666 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 1: beat the Giants that one game, but we've lost all right. 1667 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: So going back to the two games sweep against the 1668 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, which is the only serious the Mets 1669 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,720 Speaker 1: have one since I returned from my trap, so thank 1670 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 1: God leaving the country again. But the Mets have lost one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, 1671 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,760 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. They have lost sixteen out of twenty games, 1672 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 1: four and sixteen their last twenty dating back to May tenth. 1673 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 2: Maybe Mariy Lopez was right. 1674 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: He could have been close. But Jordan Montgomery's not pitch 1675 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: well since signing late in the offseason. Scot Board seems 1676 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: to have fucked all of his clients again. Your boy, 1677 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Paul Seawall's still great. It's gonna be fun to have 1678 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 1: Paul Seawall back in city field during a week of 1679 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 1: pure chaos for the Mets. I hope he does be awesome. Storyline, 1680 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Ginkle had a real good start to the year 1681 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,960 Speaker 1: when Seawall was actually injured, but he's been struggling of late. 1682 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: And we'll leave the checkout on the Diamondbacks. I'm sure 1683 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 1: we'll see him, cause I'm sure we're gonna be losing 1684 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,719 Speaker 1: all these games. Justin Martinez. Yes, he's completely fucking discussing 1685 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 1: towards one hundred miles an hour with a nice tight 1686 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: slider and a crazy splither with a lot of drop. 1687 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 1: But he's he's amazing. They made him the lab. Shout 1688 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: out Brett Trroum. Even with the chaos that is the 1689 01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: New York Mets, we still find a way to get 1690 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: James taking a little reliever for you to keep an 1691 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,720 Speaker 1: eye out for. Some things never change, one of those 1692 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,560 Speaker 1: being the Mets being dog water. Thank you guys so 1693 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 1: much for listening. Thank you for watching this episode of 1694 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 1: the Mess Up Podcast. 1695 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. 1696 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: Follow us on all our social media at mets up 1697 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. 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