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Speaker 1: ask me, and they probably asked you to, is to
Speaker 1: try to kind of like the fine poor, kind of
Speaker 1: like your genre of music of who you are? Like,
Speaker 1: are is it a gospel? Is it positive? Is a spiritual?
Speaker 1: Is a Christian?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What is it breaking down? And let's just get to
Speaker 1: it at a fast festival. It's funny, man, I just
Speaker 1: make music from the Lord. I'm my eyes self. You
Speaker 1: know I'm authentically you know, a following world of Lord.
Speaker 1: I'm authentically a part of hip hop culchiing and not
Speaker 1: just blend the two. And you know, you can put
Speaker 1: in whatever box you want to put it in as
Speaker 1: long as you listening. I don't care. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can say whatever you know, You can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want to call it. But I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to be authentic. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like become this wall?
Speaker 4: There's a sort of negative stigma or a negative connotation
Speaker 4: that comes along with dos rap from the Chinnery population
Speaker 4: urban community because they don't understand what it's talking about.
Speaker 1: They feel like it's too churchy. I think I don't
Speaker 1: know about churchy, but I think people think it's morty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I just gonna be laying
Speaker 1: it's gonna be corny. But for me, I'm like if
Speaker 1: you listen to my music, it ain't never been that.
Speaker 1: So you know, I got the talk and I got
Speaker 1: sometimes a big crib cris go on and on and no,
Speaker 1: it ain't never been party but positive. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna shy away from laving charity. So I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about that. Yeah, So you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all together and mix it at the pie and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get what you get. Okay, what kind of plaque
Speaker 1: can get for like the church peak? The church people
Speaker 1: say be toogy, you know what I'm saying, like it's
Speaker 1: too edgy. So true story. When I first started, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I took on music to you know,
Speaker 1: to the gospel side first, like hey, I got some music,
Speaker 1: and they said, naw, this is too it's too edgy.
Speaker 1: So then they say you need to take that to
Speaker 1: the mainstream. So that I took the Mastri and all
Speaker 1: the major labels. They said, this's this two churches. So
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I just gotta rub my whole lane.
Speaker 1: And it just created my whole thing because you know,
Speaker 1: on what side they say it's too much, the other
Speaker 1: side they say it's too much. So I ran my
Speaker 1: lane and you know, nich just get riches some here
Speaker 1: exactly what's your think? The biggest key is to connecting
Speaker 1: with people, you know what I'm saying, because people don't
Speaker 1: want to be preached to. So when you're trying to
Speaker 1: reach somebody and help them to understand like positivity or
Speaker 1: spirituality or whatever the case is, what's the key to
Speaker 1: getting them to connect with you that I'm cheaping, you
Speaker 1: know saying I'm talking people are talking soon and then
Speaker 1: I just tell my story. So we all humans, we
Speaker 1: all relate on the same level. We all got problems,
Speaker 1: we all got issues, we all got to say twenty
Speaker 1: four hours in a day. You navigate yours, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you now I'm navigating mine. And you know, when
Speaker 1: you tell your authentic story, your real story, people dont
Speaker 1: connect with you there in that way. So I'm in
Speaker 1: here to like, I don't got no hell to put
Speaker 1: nobody in the heaven to let nobody in. All I
Speaker 1: can do is tell my story and connect with you
Speaker 1: on your stord. So when you had those polus, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be clear about this too, because we
Speaker 1: spoke before us kind of like a lot of people
Speaker 1: think that if you represent like what you represent, that
Speaker 1: you're perfect. Well, you don't have bad thoughts, you don't
Speaker 1: have any bad habits anything like that. Just tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about the help of Lucre or some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you deal with. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: as human as everybody else is. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that The thing that people get in twisted is like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a Christian because I got it all together.
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian because I'm weak and I know I
Speaker 1: need to say it, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: that's the time happens for me, I just admit I
Speaker 1: don't got it together. You know what I'm saying. A
Speaker 1: lot of cats either don't have it together and they
Speaker 1: act like they do, or they don't have together and
Speaker 1: they say, oh, well, you know, I'm just a person
Speaker 1: who saying I don't have together. But I'm fighting. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm trusting God to be the
Speaker 1: person that I need to be. So you know, any
Speaker 1: struggle that anybody got, I got the same shrug, if
Speaker 1: not more. You know what I'm saying. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's just that I'm okay, we'll talking
Speaker 1: about it instead of hot like I don't have it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So in the past, do you take it like
Speaker 4: a really stead past stance for social injustice, freight intention,
Speaker 4: and the male aspect of parently. So a lot of
Speaker 4: those things are very intense topic, kind of maintained mallogs
Speaker 4: while fighting all.
Speaker 1: Of those fights people, it's tough, man, because you know,
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with the issues like you see if
Speaker 1: people get shot every day, you're seeing the community get
Speaker 1: messed up, right, and you get frustrated. You know, I
Speaker 1: was out there, you know when red Shaw Bruce got killed.
Speaker 1: I'm outside with everybody else. Yeah, at Whitney's, I'm outside
Speaker 1: with everybody else. And you know, I'm just as mad
Speaker 1: as they are. You know, if you would have caught
Speaker 1: me on a bad day, I might have been saying
Speaker 1: something crazy that you know the folks out there too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for me, I try to take that hanger and
Speaker 1: make it and teen not destructive anger, but constructive anger.
Speaker 1: So Lara ain't something constructive with my anger. So what
Speaker 1: I started doing U was let me build a school.
Speaker 1: So I got a school in English at let me
Speaker 1: let me invest in that school. Let me do some problem,
Speaker 1: let me invest in these kids. Let me work all
Speaker 1: up at Terrence Love y'all. Walk helped the folks in
Speaker 1: the community that you know Latanya were Paul Kidds over
Speaker 1: at English You know what I'm saying, Like Brove Park,
Speaker 1: let me do something constructive with my anger instead of destructive.
Speaker 1: It's easy to turn down the building, to throw a
Speaker 1: rock through us through something. It's harder to do the
Speaker 1: work to help build that community up. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then in twenty thirteen, you actually partnered with the Wade,
Speaker 4: Wade and Joshua with the Walk for the Fatherhood the
Speaker 4: Nation of How fun was that?
Speaker 1: Y's dope?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, you know, you take a
Speaker 1: kid and came from nothing, came from the hood, and
Speaker 1: you got a little bit of White House. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just me. Hey, I ain't
Speaker 1: ever been to the White House and folks, so you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. I stole a couple napkins,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I did. I stole some napkins.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They have the little seminar
Speaker 1: on it hot. I ain't allowed to say you do
Speaker 1: over Bee came out real nigga, So clear the room,
Speaker 1: like what else? They got some soap, some shine, watch
Speaker 1: your about clacketts. He just got talking these facts, so
Speaker 1: you know what I was. That was hard just to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. And then it just you know,
Speaker 1: vincing them kids and showing them because I had grown
Speaker 1: my pops, so just showing them what it looked like,
Speaker 1: you know, to be a father, to be the father
Speaker 1: you never had. Let's be what was what would you
Speaker 1: tell somebody you trying to get into this joall with?
Speaker 1: People said you didn't I starting up because I know
Speaker 1: what the batching like. He had to go to the
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, be yourself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't care what y'allre of music you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You gotta be dopematic and you gotta set yourself apart
Speaker 1: and be real. That won't be fake if this is
Speaker 1: how you really live. I mean, this is what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, be really about it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I first seen you know that
Speaker 1: tape come up. The reason why people were attract to
Speaker 1: because they knew y'all was really about what y'all was
Speaker 1: talking about. You know what I'm saying. It was all pitted.
Speaker 1: He was like, hen, he ain't lying, but it ain't lied.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I can listen to you and believe
Speaker 1: what you're saying. If you want to be talking about
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, you can't be lying. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, This is gonna be your You gotta
Speaker 1: really say, man, I'm really feel a little like this.
Speaker 1: Not that you're gonna get it perfect, but just like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to put it all a lot and say, man,
Speaker 1: this is really what i believe in, and it's really
Speaker 1: what I'm wanna talk about. And when people come at
Speaker 1: your sideways, because they gonna do that, you gotta stand
Speaker 1: on bitteress, stand on your ground and keep talking and
Speaker 1: talk that you're talking kid. What's the ways you preserve
Speaker 1: or protect your mental health as the grig. What's some
Speaker 1: things and some partents that you exercise on a deal. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, outside of being an artist,
Speaker 1: I'm a businessman. I got the label, I got real estate,
Speaker 1: I got other investments, all types of different things that
Speaker 1: I got A fire us been at a file right
Speaker 1: so I got my hands around a lot of things.
Speaker 1: And I think what a lot of people don't understand is,
Speaker 1: you know, they think a lot of us believe in
Speaker 1: this line that abundance takes away dependence. So just because
Speaker 1: you got money, now you know need people, you don't
Speaker 1: need health, you don't need jo you know, support, and
Speaker 1: that's a lot. As soon as we get some money over.
Speaker 4: We don't remove fall away to fifteen Hey behind the gate, right, look,
Speaker 4: come on about it.
Speaker 1: Oldbody knows what's coming on. And so I'm not connected.
Speaker 1: So the biggest thing for me is to stay connected
Speaker 1: to people. You know what I'm saying, because I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I have a pensive breakdown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The first thing that the hospital said, they didn't say
Speaker 1: how much money you got it. They just say you
Speaker 1: do you have good investments? They said, do you have
Speaker 1: a support system? You know what I'm saying, do you
Speaker 1: have a support system? You know, money ain't gonna save
Speaker 1: you when you when you tramped in your hand. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm side. So on, So what I had
Speaker 1: to do was make sure I got my support system
Speaker 1: a you know, B just doing the little things man
Speaker 1: exercise like an anti depressor. Get up and exercise, prying. Uh,
Speaker 1: get some sleep, you know, stop that role. I'll sleep
Speaker 1: when I'm dead. I don't never detire. Yes, you do,
Speaker 1: go to bed, you know. Yeah, get some sleep so
Speaker 1: you'll be on the point when you wake up and
Speaker 1: you get get to the grind. How you balanced though,
Speaker 1: like you know, being successful and you say it kind
Speaker 1: of isolating yourself. I think that some people do that
Speaker 1: I've learned from, like just artists in the industry, because
Speaker 1: a lot of fake love and the people that just
Speaker 1: want from them so they feel like they have tone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so they'd rather have like no love instead
Speaker 1: of the fake love. Exactly, you gonna die, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I feel you, you don't want
Speaker 1: fake love around you. Because some people can't breathe that air,
Speaker 1: you know when you rise it up. Some people can't
Speaker 1: breath the air that chief that you're starting to breathe.
Speaker 1: And that's understandable. But you might have to train some
Speaker 1: people on how to breathe that here. You may have
Speaker 1: to figure out, Okay, we cannot take with me that
Speaker 1: has that don't care about how much money I got,
Speaker 1: how much popularity I got, that just know me for
Speaker 1: me it take them with you on that journey, showed
Speaker 1: him the game, showed him what this looked like, showed
Speaker 1: him how this worked, and put them in position to
Speaker 1: become their own boss. You know, they kind of showed
Speaker 1: them how to navigate that world.
Speaker 5: Is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might annalcate the world. But but you know,
Speaker 1: if you look around me, all you go see are
Speaker 1: individuals that you know saying, can breathe that air because
Speaker 1: they've been trained to breed that air, because I Walt
Speaker 1: the would have do that process. But the industry fake.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just being one hundred. The industry's fake.
Speaker 1: Like everybody like fake friends. So bring your real friends
Speaker 1: into the game with you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Bring your real friends in and and and learn how
Speaker 1: to do business with them because they don't care about
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. They care about she And that's
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Some people hate me. They
Speaker 1: think I'm the worst thing in the world. Some people
Speaker 1: think I'm the best thing in the world. Both of them.
Speaker 1: The language, the people who are languid, they know I'm
Speaker 1: all you know what I'm saying, I ain't as terrible
Speaker 1: as they say. I'm as great as they say what
Speaker 1: I got there with me and that helps our mental
Speaker 1: health sting consistent. So do you listen though it's considered
Speaker 1: secular music, Lady, listen to Glasgow. Okay, look, here's my things,
Speaker 1: here's my thing. If you want to be a doctor
Speaker 1: a lawyer, are you only gonna listen to Christian lawyers
Speaker 1: and doctors teach you how to be a doctor. If
Speaker 1: you want to be a painter, you only gonna listen
Speaker 1: to Christian painters. So you trying to be dope at
Speaker 1: your craft? Why would you not listen to the best
Speaker 1: people at your craft? Fact, you gotta be well rounded,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so I was raised
Speaker 1: to people like man, you cold, bro or cold because
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to the coldest. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like that don't mean I endorse every day
Speaker 1: they say. It just means I can appreciate their talent.
Speaker 1: The other thing I say, too, is when it comes
Speaker 1: to the music, I'm not getting wash those in it.
Speaker 1: Like you gotta have your on line. You gotta be
Speaker 1: able to listen to people's stories. Sometimes people just telling
Speaker 1: you your story. And then the other thing I'll just say,
Speaker 1: is this end of the day. People will say, let's
Speaker 1: say I got a software although you make up future
Speaker 1: or a little baby, right, let's say what people say, well, chray,
Speaker 1: what are you got to solve with litle baby? You know?
Speaker 1: He all they talked about is this, this, this, this
Speaker 1: and this, And I said, okay, cool? Where he healthth
Speaker 1: a cares? Oh west side. He went to prison, he
Speaker 1: got out. What was he supposed to do? Did he
Speaker 1: have a degree? Did he know how this kind of business?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: He did the only thing he knew how to do,
Speaker 1: and he got successful at it. So my question you
Speaker 1: would be do you have a plan to go to
Speaker 1: to to to that side of the community to go
Speaker 1: build and point to the individual so they have some
Speaker 1: other choices so they don't have to rap about the
Speaker 1: life that they came from him if they're asked, is
Speaker 1: no stoff condivil them? Oh? Decent about it? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Go do something about it. You than that.
Speaker 1: People sometimes are some critical like I see so much
Speaker 1: like backlass what it tells. So let's just throw out
Speaker 1: a name like a sexy read or something like that.
Speaker 1: And you think that people and your particular religion might
Speaker 1: sometimes be too judgmental and too critical of this people
Speaker 1: and not giving them time to evolve and regress. I
Speaker 1: don't think you doubted me religious to see when something
Speaker 1: could be detrimental. You know what I'm saying, Like, he
Speaker 1: ain't got to be religious to be like I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's healthy, right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think this wisdom regardless of what you believe in,
Speaker 1: it's just wizard But at the same time, if you
Speaker 1: are a Christian, you should be the most gracious person
Speaker 1: of all, the friend of U, sparedess, love, troy, peace, patience,
Speaker 1: kind is gentlest I should be demonstrated love, Troy, peace, patience, kindness,
Speaker 1: and gentleness. If anybody should be understanding, it should be me.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be come the sexy read talking about men.
Speaker 1: You need to cut that out. What I should be
Speaker 1: the most loving person? Saying nothing at where you grow up?
Speaker 1: For your father, he and mama? What's your story have?
Speaker 1: What's life? Bok? Life? For you? You know you've ever
Speaker 1: been at there meeting? Now I like to pay with
Speaker 1: that before y'all want know what that would do for
Speaker 1: your life? You know what I'm saying, like that should
Speaker 1: be my if anything, how do you deal with the
Speaker 1: people that just can't off with y'all your journey? Sometimes
Speaker 1: people get dropped off. Sometimes you gotta drop them off.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't trying to be funny,
Speaker 1: but some people can't breathe that hear, they gotta get
Speaker 1: dropped off, Kate. I mean, it ain't disrespect or you
Speaker 1: gotta beve you know. Some of the way I lived
Speaker 1: my life is I got serpents. I got a wire circle.
Speaker 1: They can't breathe the air he affects. So I got
Speaker 1: a wire circ a. Why serving pretty much a lot
Speaker 1: of people can get in that circle, you know, family members,
Speaker 1: people I just meet y'all. Getting that white circle. Then
Speaker 1: I got another smaller circle inside of that. That's why
Speaker 1: you get a little realer in that, sir. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gott it's a certain air you
Speaker 1: can breathe in that circle, and that ain't but everybody.
Speaker 1: Then I got that inner in a circle, and them
Speaker 1: some people they ain't know everything. There ain't nothing off
Speaker 1: the table with them. Everybody can't be that inner here.
Speaker 1: And that's you let him saying, I just gotta die
Speaker 1: a little small dart. Yeah, I mean if the longly
Speaker 1: as you got sobody, because you're gonna need somebody that
Speaker 1: you can you can depend on that you're gonna rock
Speaker 1: with You know what I mean? If you in your
Speaker 1: lowest situation, who you gonna call? Who you gonna be like, bru,
Speaker 1: it's all bad right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And and people who don't rock with you? Okay, so
Speaker 1: deepend with La Craye. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So d min is my podcast. Uh, it's called The
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Speaker 1: is a is an opportunity for folks to wrestle with
Speaker 1: mental health, to wrestle with faith, to wrestle with culture.
Speaker 1: How can they get it?
Speaker 5: Like?
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Speaker 1: Go get it? You know what I'm saying. Go download that,
Speaker 1: uh and become a part of a community. You can
Speaker 1: you can argue with folds. You can say I don't
Speaker 1: know about this and if people just don't be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying it's a family, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's plenty of resources and courses and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth. The podcast is like, it's the
Speaker 1: it's the it's the free it's the free food, the
Speaker 1: sales that that you get people when they come to
Speaker 1: the store. You know what I'm saying. It's the it's
Speaker 1: the free work. You know what I'm saying. Put their
Speaker 1: different terms, but yeah, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: don't give you some concidement and then you come in
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Speaker 1: talked about stripping, We talked about Jesus, We talked about facey, elastic,
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Speaker 1: talked about investments, talk about the Lord, talk about all
Speaker 1: those particular things. So it's just it's where we all
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Speaker 1: know a lot of these people at a vestments man
Speaker 1: because they try to figure out how they gets sold.
Speaker 1: But yes, sir, very talk to these people about some
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Speaker 1: some extraal war wine d let's talk about it all right.
Speaker 1: So number one, it's not just music like a lot
Speaker 1: of people think. It's diffusic for me. Being a creator
Speaker 1: is not the way I made the vulgue of my wealth.
Speaker 1: It's really being an owner. Right, So how the ownership one, yes,
Speaker 1: is how I made a lot of the money. And
Speaker 1: it's no one the pathway right, there's no like, oh,
Speaker 1: you got to be this kind of owner, this kind
Speaker 1: of like real estate of whatever business, bisure you are in.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is a pathway for you
Speaker 1: to have financial success. But here's what I say. The
Speaker 1: key worder is invest Number one, you have to invest
Speaker 1: in yourself. Oh my gods, that again to have to
Speaker 1: invest in yourself. A lot of folks beligue that whatever
Speaker 1: idea they have, whatever product they have is the best
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And you're like, this gonna make
Speaker 1: me a lot of money. No, you have no cultural concept.
Speaker 1: Invest in yourself to become better, research, read, grow, learn
Speaker 1: about the thing that you trying to offer pepip. You
Speaker 1: got to invest in yourself to see if what you've
Speaker 1: got is legit, and if it ain't legit, how can
Speaker 1: you make it better? Number two, invest in your team.
Speaker 1: If you find yourself can generate two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year's feet and you got a partner
Speaker 1: who if you give them one hundred of that one fifty,
Speaker 1: y'all collectively can make a million. Why would you settle
Speaker 1: for not giving up one hundred and fifty one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to make a meal. A lot of times
Speaker 1: we don't want to invest in our team were cheap.
Speaker 1: We're like, oh over all, linn I take fifty fifty
Speaker 1: million versus one hundred percent of a million any day?
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't right? So we too cheap? We don't invest
Speaker 1: in our team. You gotta invest in your team, put
Speaker 1: people in your own circle or hiring folks that can
Speaker 1: really get the job done. And lastly, man, you gotta
Speaker 1: invest in the people. I don't care what business you in.
Speaker 1: You in a people business. If you don't serve the people,
Speaker 1: well they go. You take care of people, they take
Speaker 1: care of you. One of our favorite things about it
Speaker 1: having is is unapologetically black. One of the things I
Speaker 1: disclake is that people think just because you're black and
Speaker 1: posted out want to buy your product in your service there,
Speaker 1: that if you don't get a pass just because you're black,
Speaker 1: your service here, when you don't street you, well, don't
Speaker 1: take care of you, you don't talk to me. Well
Speaker 1: and you say, well, you're black, you don't take care. No,
Speaker 1: it don't work like that. Take care of people that
Speaker 1: take care of you. You always in the people business,
Speaker 1: lend no matter what. What about the people who may
Speaker 1: not have any day to invest financially? You say, you
Speaker 1: always got time and ideas. Yeah, if you don't have
Speaker 1: the narrow to advest yep, so don't have like any
Speaker 1: broken business. So what I would say is this, if
Speaker 1: if you you gotta build so right, you got to
Speaker 1: have an idea or some kind of idea. The next
Speaker 1: thing you need is cool for concept? Does it work
Speaker 1: or a small scale? Does it even work on small
Speaker 1: You need a lot of money to figure out if
Speaker 1: it worked on a small scale. I made my first CD.
Speaker 1: The people in one of those communities liked it. I
Speaker 1: took it up to the store, I said, he if
Speaker 1: y'all send it, they said, we'll sell what up? I
Speaker 1: sent all my friends of their to go trying to
Speaker 1: get it. They bought the one CD. They said we
Speaker 1: need more. I gave him twenty five. I said, fifty
Speaker 1: people up there. Fifty of them got bought. Said they
Speaker 1: said we need more. So now they say if we
Speaker 1: want to put it in more and more stores. I
Speaker 1: have proof of concept that it would worked because I
Speaker 1: have people who really wanted to buy it. So first
Speaker 1: you got to have a proof of concept. Then you
Speaker 1: can go if you need to you and get a law.
Speaker 1: You can find somebody to invest in you, you know,
Speaker 1: do all these particular days. But then I got the back.
Speaker 4: So also what you said about investing in yourself, because
Speaker 4: if you don't feel the need that invest in yourself
Speaker 4: highly respecting.
Speaker 1: Another thing is that hexactly you ain't put it in
Speaker 1: the top. Put your ten thousand hours and that you
Speaker 1: know what you got is legit. It's gonna work. A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't put the ten thousand hours in.
Speaker 1: They have no proof of concept. They just got an
Speaker 1: idea and they want somebody. Yo, I got this idea, Gray,
Speaker 1: I want you to give me twenty bread How you
Speaker 1: know y'all did work and it just sound dope out
Speaker 1: inside it and you have a test market. Has anybody
Speaker 1: confirmed this is? He like, it's in the shit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then somebody we went into a vest.
Speaker 1: They said, else, how imported this failure? With that? Though?
Speaker 1: We can talk about success, but how important this failure?
Speaker 1: Team progression. Ain't no losses. It's only lessons. If you
Speaker 1: if you're a real business person, that ain't no losses.
Speaker 1: It's only lessons. You always win even when you lose.
Speaker 1: If it's a lesson, not a loss. Failure is like seasoning.
Speaker 1: That's sorry. You know what I'm saying. You just went
Speaker 1: to school. You got I started doing development, like uh,
Speaker 1: real estate development, like land development, right, and the first
Speaker 1: project I just was like I didn't know nothing about it.
Speaker 1: So I ended up I lost money. But I went
Speaker 1: to school. You know what I'm saying. It was like
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't get it. So now moving forward,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, now I get it. Now I understand it.
Speaker 1: Right now, these apartments worked. Now this building works because
Speaker 1: I had to go to school. But it wasn't a loss.
Speaker 1: It was a lesson. You know what I'm saying, It
Speaker 1: was an expensive lesson. I all recommitted that don't do it.
Speaker 1: Don't gave you a lot of clud of lessons if
Speaker 1: you don't have to. But it ain't no losses. It's
Speaker 1: only lessons. If you learn, you can move forward. Bust
Speaker 1: your old wild message. It's just dry. Cant say I
Speaker 1: think all wrong messages. Man. The biggest thing right now,
Speaker 1: like what I said get in the first place, is
Speaker 1: abundance does not take away dependence. So you can be
Speaker 1: here at investments, you can learn how to make a
Speaker 1: lot of money. You're still gonna need people, You're still
Speaker 1: gonna need God. You know what I'm saying. If abundance
Speaker 1: does not promove dependence. So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We live at this time and a time and age
Speaker 1: where we feel like we can just get it there.
Speaker 1: We can just hustle our way through anything. When I'm
Speaker 1: trying to tell y'all, man, as somebody who had a
Speaker 1: mental breakdown, the only way I got through that was God.
Speaker 1: I had a you know I got it the the
Speaker 1: late find a lot of big big big body can
Speaker 1: say he's in a driveway. It don't mean nothing because
Speaker 1: I was sitting in the hospital and those are my
Speaker 1: mental fact to this. You know what I'm saying, No,
Speaker 1: be nothing, which so all I'm saying is a butt
Speaker 1: is don't little dependence. But if you gonna get it,
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. You gotta invest in yourself. And
Speaker 1: that's spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and financially educationally, like take care
Speaker 1: of yourself as you out here on your financial journey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what should think some keys are to having a healthy relationship?
Speaker 1: Be it that you buried it every day? And what's
Speaker 1: the keys to you? Prioritize? Man, You've got to prioritize
Speaker 1: first of all. You know, for me, my first priority
Speaker 1: is me. That sounds selfish, but stay with me. If
Speaker 1: if I'm not mentally, emotionally, spiritually healthy, I'm no good
Speaker 1: for her. So I gotta make sure I take care
Speaker 1: of me. If I'm a disaster, I ain't no good barter.
Speaker 1: Then it's hurt. Right. So the reason why she's my
Speaker 1: second parority and not by kids is because what do
Speaker 1: all kids do?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: So when I walk in the house, my little my
Speaker 1: little boy, like that, you got a white hold, little dude,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to snow.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, he ain't, man, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he's like, okay, cool, he lets her to see it exactly, he'
Speaker 4: he to see it.
Speaker 1: Then it's the kids after the kids now prioritizing How
Speaker 1: am I supporting this them? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: How am I supporting this? And you've gotta have the priorities.
Speaker 1: You gotta prioritize days because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you can run around, chase somebody, chase some opportunities, but
Speaker 1: you the only daddy that that kid is ever gonna have.
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully you're the only spouse a portuner that
Speaker 1: that person's gonna have. So take care of them, man,
Speaker 1: because because the world can find another business person in
Speaker 1: the world can find another product, but that's the only
Speaker 1: you to ever be in that household. So make sure
Speaker 1: you prioritize them. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 4: This is just a little off walk question or whatever,
Speaker 4: so saying is how you're saying that you got to
Speaker 4: take care of yourself, then your wife and then your
Speaker 4: kids too.
Speaker 1: Does the big piece of chicken get dished out in
Speaker 1: that order? I always get the big pieces of shit
Speaker 1: what it is, take care of myself first, lids to
Speaker 1: the physically yet all slip o G. I can't get
Speaker 1: out of here and work fing face and chicken blow
Speaker 1: and leave. Yeah no, I don't you know how I go?
Speaker 1: And you better not touch the steak. It But why
Speaker 1: I heard them, I don't touch the steak. You know
Speaker 1: what it is? You get to my dogs Hamburgers. You know,
Speaker 1: I go, Hey, he's cranking up that Reached Records too.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You got some artists that you're gonna put down on
Speaker 1: the boulder. Yeah. Man, Reach Records is the label of
Speaker 1: shout out to you know, Atlanta's all one K, few
Speaker 1: anik A, my afrobeat artists in Moblaze, Trip Lead, Tadashi
Speaker 1: holding he going crazy right now? Oh man? I mean
Speaker 1: you know we signed a new artist as well, So
Speaker 1: it's over what we what we demonstrated is that is
Speaker 1: a is a deed for this, it's a desire for this.
Speaker 1: And again, man, y'all tap in because the music a
Speaker 1: party is legit. One K just dropped up a project
Speaker 1: with Atove and you know, I'm saying I'm sown with
Speaker 1: what your drawer there? Go go on, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, so you know, if you tap being
Speaker 1: you'll see like it's it's it's legit, and you know
Speaker 1: it's also something too, like sometimes you need to break sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, or you got the little ones in the ride,
Speaker 1: you just hey, let me put on something that you know,
Speaker 1: I know they can listen to with the same time.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And it ain't be something
Speaker 1: lay that I don't feel like listening to you as
Speaker 1: soon as you gotta feed your spirit. You know, you
Speaker 1: be down, you be feeling a way, feed your spirit,
Speaker 1: give yourself music to rock with. So you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's that's that's what it is, Restredgers, That's what.
Speaker 4: So this is something that I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 4: like and your personal ovidion.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It was stated that.
Speaker 4: Gravity was one of the most important gospel rap albums
Speaker 4: two dollar culture today.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 4: So maybe your personal opinion to this day, since it's
Speaker 4: been a minute since you released that album, be still
Speaker 4: feel like that's the truth out.
Speaker 1: Of state to me. I just you know, hindsight is
Speaker 1: twenty twenty so when I look back, yeah, yeah, like wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the impact. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you just in the moment create So if you look
Speaker 1: back and you're like, I didn't know this happened, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So oh to me, I just
Speaker 1: take it a stride. I just take it and try
Speaker 1: to like whatever energy I was on when I was
Speaker 1: creating that, I want to still be all that in
Speaker 1: this season, you know what I'm saying. And uh, and
Speaker 1: just try to keep that pushing forward. And now I'm
Speaker 1: in my legacy phase. Now I'm in my phase, and like, man,
Speaker 1: how can I help other people? You know? And how
Speaker 1: can I you know, give insight wisdom the other folks
Speaker 1: instead of just forward it because a lot of times,
Speaker 1: right it's successful I mean for the game or the
Speaker 1: information instead of like helping other people, Like it's enough
Speaker 1: for everybody, you know what I mean? So how can
Speaker 1: we giving out? So I did something amazing at one
Speaker 1: point in time, I'm not sitting there trying to afford
Speaker 1: that and all of that, like, ah, it's meat. You'll
Speaker 1: try to figure out how to make the next person great.
Speaker 1: You know what does that look like? So that's really
Speaker 1: what I'm on right now. And then so hm, that'll
Speaker 1: be our end. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Shout out to my brother to today, it's just this. Ever,
Speaker 4: everybody over here, they we're one of the first hip
Speaker 4: hop labels or label periods to implement like a mental
Speaker 4: health thing as part as a fart appropriate for their fddes.
Speaker 1: How important do you think that is for.
Speaker 4: That type of thing to be implemented in that type
Speaker 4: of setting.
Speaker 1: It's super important because what a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: realize is creatives are some of the people who are
Speaker 1: most susceptible to happen mental illness. It's the certain chointity
Speaker 1: of brain that you operating and using that often times
Speaker 1: you know you you you are, you are probably the
Speaker 1: person he got a E. D. That's why you over
Speaker 1: here all the time. You know, see you're probably the
Speaker 1: person who is depressed. Is why you can write them
Speaker 1: saves all right, Right, it's important to to make sure
Speaker 1: you have mental health uh you know, uh freadily available
Speaker 1: available for them. So even for my label at Reach,
Speaker 1: we pay for all of our artists therapy. You know,
Speaker 1: I really every artist, their therapy has been coupled by us.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah spend Yeah, I've never heard nobody said that.
Speaker 1: That's doe. It got to because I need I need
Speaker 1: you to be healthy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So a lot of times the vintal health and therapy
Speaker 4: part of it is only slightly covered by the assurance, right,
Speaker 4: so a lot of people can't afford.
Speaker 1: It, right exactly, And that that's that's part of the product.
Speaker 1: Uh is that Number one is we need access to
Speaker 1: that because we are dealing with a lot of trauma,
Speaker 1: especially in our community. We got a lot of trauma.
Speaker 1: You know, it'd be like your mama like, man, I
Speaker 1: need my nerve feels you're my nerves. Oh that that
Speaker 1: that's evidence of vintal hell risk right there, affecting her
Speaker 1: sensory on the inside. Exactly. I go to prisons all
Speaker 1: the time. You in there for a murder. You in
Speaker 1: there and you done been staffed up, shot up, you traumatizised,
Speaker 1: and ain't nobody dealing with it? So you know I
Speaker 1: have reason while way on codeine and wha't wet popping pills?
Speaker 1: Is because he's self medicating because all the issues that
Speaker 1: we got we need, you know, say if we will
Speaker 1: know how to get that help or we don't believe
Speaker 1: in the help. So I just think we got to
Speaker 1: be leaders and helping people get become healthy so that
Speaker 1: they can move forward. And be the inspirations that they
Speaker 1: that they was created to be the right right. It's
Speaker 1: amunt of people here that invest festicated rock with us.
Speaker 1: But appreciate y'all. What's the biggest fact that you would
Speaker 1: like to give to these people right here? The biggest jill,
Speaker 1: the biggest fact for them to lead this conversation with it.
Speaker 1: A lot of y'all they here in the journey you
Speaker 1: on right now. You know you want to be financially successful.
Speaker 1: What you're doing is probably looking at people I only
Speaker 1: use the sports analogy. You're looking at people who playing
Speaker 1: football and you're like, man, I gotta get a football team.
Speaker 1: It's not time. You need to play golf. And golf
Speaker 1: is when you and all of your partners all have
Speaker 1: the same role. All y'all gotta hit that ball. All
Speaker 1: y'all have a walk with the same journey. All y'all
Speaker 1: gotta share the same as possibilities. Carry that bag, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta focus on golf. Then as it grows, you
Speaker 1: can play basketball. Everybody's still gonna touch the ball, Everybody
Speaker 1: gonna shoot, some shoot more than others, some triple more
Speaker 1: than others. Then you hit the football where only one
Speaker 1: person kicks. Only one person, don't think. And you have
Speaker 1: to get rid of your little boy literally the homegirl
Speaker 1: because they not a good quarterback, right You need a
Speaker 1: specialized person. But don't worry about everybody playing football. Figure
Speaker 1: out how you can be a golf player right now.
Speaker 1: Figure out how you can start small and grow with
Speaker 1: that thing. It's gonna be a journey, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a process. But you know, if you stop, try to
Speaker 1: be something out here and be what you are right now.
Speaker 1: The last thing y'all say is success is not what
Speaker 1: you can compare to everybody else. Success is what you
Speaker 1: feel compared to what she was made to do. Fact,
Speaker 1: do what you was made to do. Ryan that it
Speaker 1: is Leclaire were appreciation time. We gonna get together. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: gotta open it up for the Q and A. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a call today.
Speaker 4: So if any of you guys out in the audience
Speaker 4: have any questions for the cray or questions for.
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Speaker 1: guys feel free to come up. And you know that's
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Speaker 6: Hey there nanke you some ladys for sharing your wisdom
Speaker 6: and knowledge. I actually many you with a I'm sorry
Speaker 6: many of you in a dance ebit And that's something
Speaker 6: near and dear to my heart, like.
Speaker 1: Bullshit booming physical illness.
Speaker 6: So as someone who is in that community, like, what
Speaker 6: do you think I can do to help get the motion?
Speaker 6: Because people don't want to come to class. Let's say
Speaker 6: wintertime it gets dark early, they don't want to come
Speaker 6: to dance class. They don't want to come work out
Speaker 6: like every day you're saying, we need to get the motion.
Speaker 1: How do we get the motion going? Yeah, So that's
Speaker 1: what I'll say to anybody right now. Everybody is doing
Speaker 1: the same day, all day long, this right. So whatever
Speaker 1: you try, whatever game you try to get to people,
Speaker 1: make sure it's right here. Whatever trying the information you're
Speaker 1: trying to get there to understand, make sure's right here.
Speaker 1: If you got proof of concept. If you can show
Speaker 1: the chazy transformation that people are having because they dance,
Speaker 1: they moving show them the results on your TikTok, on
Speaker 1: your Instagram, on your Facebook, whatever, because seeing is believing.
Speaker 1: For a lot of books, you know, it's how many people,
Speaker 1: how many of us have bought products or signed up
Speaker 1: or so because we saw an advertisement. So the show
Speaker 1: the people what's doing so they can get an idea
Speaker 1: of it, leaving it and a subscribe. Once you got
Speaker 1: called the gentleman can put pu pray those from r
Speaker 1: hi I'm too funny? Then how are y'all great? I
Speaker 1: have a question pretending to females.
Speaker 5: You've had a label for a while, for twenty plus years,
Speaker 5: and I noticed that the female perspective is now an
Speaker 5: angle mat reach is disseminated. When did that become important
Speaker 5: to you as an entrepreneur and having that female perspective
Speaker 5: in music and something that you actually back, When did
Speaker 5: that become important?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 1: I think again?
Speaker 5: Like it?
Speaker 1: How can I call ourselves somebody who's trying to fall?
Speaker 3: But God?
Speaker 1: If people if I don's demonstrate the care, concern and
Speaker 1: the intentionality that I think godon And so you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if appreciate, if God may women faithfully
Speaker 1: wonderfully made beautiful, incredible, intelligent creatures, why would I not
Speaker 1: see that? You know that this image bearer in front
Speaker 1: of me is say this person needs to be invested in,
Speaker 1: It needs to be eyehigh, and it needs to be
Speaker 1: given opportunity, the same thing that allow of us as
Speaker 1: giving bain Stream Society to give us as black people.
Speaker 1: We can't. We can't all that back from our women
Speaker 1: because women are double minority, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like if we as minority been said, hey,
Speaker 1: give us a voice, give us the opportunity, open up
Speaker 1: the door for us, well, how can we keep the
Speaker 1: door closed for women? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's hypocritical. So for me, it was like, man,
Speaker 1: we got to make sure we're leading away and make
Speaker 1: sure the women have a voice and the opportunity drives. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a great answer. I do ah. Okay, I'm Melissa.
Speaker 3: I am a voice swallow airway expert.
Speaker 1: I'm a speech.
Speaker 3: Pathologist, but my number one job is being a mama.
Speaker 3: And I just want to say thank you because my
Speaker 3: son actually wears your church clothes, tour t shirt every.
Speaker 1: Time that he goes to chemo therapy.
Speaker 3: We made a little zipper down the side and they
Speaker 3: can access his port. And I just want to let
Speaker 3: you know that we get to sing and jam out
Speaker 3: on the way to the hospital. I'll find you, and
Speaker 3: so I just want to tell you, and then telling
Speaker 3: Hayden right here, I'm your de crap that you have
Speaker 3: blessed us so much and what you do matters.
Speaker 1: So thank you man, thank you, appreciate you. I's a city, good, good,
Speaker 1: good one. It is good board. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for an amazing panel. I've just had a quick quession
Speaker 1: flowing back to faith as somewhere than obviously an instants
Speaker 1: in your industry.
Speaker 6: How do you balance obviously showing that love patience, whatever
Speaker 6: it is, but also not watering down the gospel and
Speaker 6: not condobing things that are clearly.
Speaker 1: Into in Christ. You don't have to you don't have
Speaker 1: to condemn to how Conard Right, So when Jesus, that's
Speaker 1: the good one with Jesus, woman all into dul Street
Speaker 1: and they was about to stole her, he didn't say
Speaker 1: he not get up because you know you're nasty, right,
Speaker 1: Finish hers. You know what I'm saying. He didn't do that.
Speaker 1: He said, DNA condem you need a new eye. So,
Speaker 1: first of for us, I think we got a lot
Speaker 1: how to walk or keep it. We're so quick to
Speaker 1: try to like throw a stole and get somebody right.
Speaker 1: If you don't even walk in cakes to just understand
Speaker 1: where they are, people will listen to you. I'll live
Speaker 1: in the hour school the liable names because I got
Speaker 1: three kids. So every day I'm walking with people who
Speaker 1: don't love God, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
Speaker 1: a journey. But they don't want me to be beating
Speaker 1: him up every day. They want meet to I get
Speaker 1: to earn the conversations with them. I get to earn
Speaker 1: the opportunity and tell them about my faith in what
Speaker 1: I believe in, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: just a journey. You want in the journey with folks.
Speaker 1: It ain't no quick second thing. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of folks will be like I told him about God.
Speaker 1: Now what job is done?
Speaker 4: I got him.
Speaker 1: Oh he ain't walked with him. He ain't love it.
Speaker 1: And he is shown when he had a doctor's appointment.
Speaker 1: He is shown when he was crying and his jail cell.
Speaker 1: That's how you get the opportunity to earn the opportunity
Speaker 1: to help people walk with the Lord instead of just
Speaker 1: doing all that beating up.
Speaker 4: And a similar situation that I just all to do.
Speaker 4: Is it's just like the judge to put the sixteen
Speaker 4: year old girl it being cubs because she fell asleep,
Speaker 4: not knowing that she's a sleepy because she was homeless?
Speaker 1: Bath is that so quick to throw him down instead
Speaker 1: of trying to help him build him up?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Next person? Yo? What excuse the pop fulk informal this,
Speaker 1: but the music has gotten through a lot of transition.
Speaker 1: She's in my life, however, I'm currently than sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I'm in a current transition. The white des grade it
Speaker 1: from school and I just started my job back in June.
Speaker 1: I can I'll live up in Virginia And this is
Speaker 1: the hardest transition career in my life because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not see if I'm friends every day on campus
Speaker 1: and whatnot. I haven't had as the forces. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't have supports of my family, but it it's difficult.
Speaker 1: Have been my friends a lot who are like hie
Speaker 1: months out of the year. Yeah, So like, what advice
Speaker 1: would you get to someone still trying to find themselves.
Speaker 1: I'm not three months since to this transition career, What
Speaker 1: like advice me to give to someone who is in
Speaker 1: that stinted like I don't know work, so I go
Speaker 1: lots to you. That's that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: we started to be side out. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is because a lot of people in transition over
Speaker 1: the round it's a community or you can be like
Speaker 1: where you live, where you live here, and then you
Speaker 1: can get you get plugged in, you can connected with
Speaker 1: somebody on your same wavelength, on your same page. Just
Speaker 1: start bawling deeper and walking. You know, we all need
Speaker 1: that community that pull the folks to connect with and
Speaker 1: so we just try to create opportunity. So that's fun.
Speaker 1: Then to tell you, man, down't know what to get
Speaker 1: onto this cord, start and start buildingless oaks can bindus
Speaker 1: people on your network and your community. Man, and and
Speaker 1: may y'all clink up. You would you never know what
Speaker 1: type of relationships that you would established, you know, just
Speaker 1: for being it at just be meeting the rap soufies.
Speaker 1: I'd have found relationships and established communities. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that otherwise wouldn't have had so many, right
Speaker 1: you had? Yeah, thank you. So we are any Moore,
Speaker 1: I'm the last one, but y'all make okay. I'm wanna
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