1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up. Huddle Up Jaguar Senior writer John Osher, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: NFL network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: reporter J. P. Shadwick bring you the latest on your 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up starts right now. 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Welcome in. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, JP Shadwick, John 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: Osher from the Miller Electric Center at the Hyundai Studios. 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: A special Tuesday edition. Free Agency Week is here. The 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: legal tampering period is underway. The league here begins Wednesday 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: at four o'clock, so we move this huddle up to 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: Tuesday today and Bucky Brooks joining us in Los Angeles. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: The negotiation window is open, Legal tampering is here. It's 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: amazing how quick multi million dollar deals get done after. 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: That legal tampering window opens. Bucky, amazing, It is amazing. 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: I mean, guys are working overtime by multiple phones, making 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: sure that they're Simon Taylor's You've working deals with multiple people, 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 4: because that's the only way to explain the flurry of 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: activity that we saw over the first twenty four thirty 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 4: six hours of re agency. 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 5: Well, you knew when they had the legal tamping tampering period. 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 5: Come in what was it seven or eight years ago? 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 5: You knew all I was gonna do was move the 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: other tampering up. I mean, and if you if you 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: open a new window, they do it before that window. 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: So and look, it's it's fine. Everybody sort of knows it. 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 5: It's a wink wink because it's impossible not to because 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 5: as you know, Buck, you've been at the combine, every 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: team and every agent, everybody talks enough and it's not 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 5: it's not always true negotiation, but everybody sort of knows 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: the market. By the time Freegy gets here. It's these 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 5: guys livelihood to know it. So what are they gonna do. 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: They're gonna talk like you and I talk. Hey, I 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 5: think this guy, I think this guy. Eventually, everybody's knows 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 5: the market for these guys. So once the calls get 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 5: made on premium guys, there's probably not a whole lot 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 5: of you know, mystery about who's worth what If there was, 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 5: then you would wonder what the heck these guys are 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 5: doing all year? It's their job to know the market, right, Oh, 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 5: what's the market? How much you have to pay your ravis? 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 6: Wait a minute, and they. 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 7: Know I mean like there is something to that, like in. 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: Walking around the combine, not necessarily at the media part 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: of it, but walking around hotels and you look up 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: you're like, oh, there's a gentle manager, there's an agent. 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 7: They're ducked off in a corner. 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: I wonder what they're talking about. You see that in 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: a few different things. You see guys having meetings set up, 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: and so a lot of this the foundation was laid 49 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks. 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 7: Ago while everyone was in Indianapolis. 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: But look for people to say, well, that's Tampa. Everybody 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 5: sort of knows who's going to get signed beforehand too, 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: so but I get some of it goes on. 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 6: But the teams that want to. 55 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: Get their guys back, they get their guys back. So 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure that a couple of agents and gms 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: talking and Indie changes the shape of what's going to 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 5: happen with a player in his current team. If the 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: player is going to go back, he's going to go 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 5: back for the most part, and and it's a life, 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: there's gonna be a negotiation. You can't stop it. You 62 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 5: can't look if they want to hang out at uh, 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, high velocity and talk, you know, first they 64 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: got to get past Bucky. 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 6: But I mean it's. 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: None, no, no, no, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: take place at high velocity. 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 7: More in the concierge rooms, concierge. 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: Lounges, you see guys dugged off in corners with representatives. 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 7: And those things. 71 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 4: But you're right, particularly for your own guys, a lot 72 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: of times those conversations are being had up until free 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 4: agency begins because you can offer them a deal. 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 7: You're like, hey, like, you. 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: Know, it's probably your best intion to take this before 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: they get in the marketplace. And then you talk about 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 4: the money being gone. And so sometimes those last many 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: deals that we see with our own players because those 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 4: deals came through and look, it was too good to 80 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: pass up, so you just go ahead and sign and 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: greet to the deal. 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: Hey, John, do you have Marriott status by chance or 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: though I have V Well, no, that's that's why you're 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: not invited to the concierge. 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 6: I don't have Bucky status. 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: I can tell you that you are not invited. 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I lived I lived in INNY for 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 5: ten years. I don't know half the people of the 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 5: Bucky nets. 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 6: In that is the town he's the mayor for sure. 91 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: Hey. 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: By the way, two Jaguars reportedly on the move in 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: free agency, Travis eat and junior Devin Lloyd. 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: We'll get to that coming up. 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: Also reports that the Jags are listening to offers for 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior. 97 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: More on that as well. 98 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: The Jaguars did do some business Monday, but internally, tight 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: end Quinton Morris was appending free agent. 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: He signed and reported one year, three million. 101 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: Dollar deal and leaned on the head coach Liam Cohen 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: last season. 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 8: Even going through training camp. Obviously coming off last year, 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 8: it was kind of a hard year and I had 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 8: talked to Liam about that, just coming off some injuries 106 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 8: and going into a first year of free agency, being 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 8: on a new team, learning a whole new offense, and 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 8: just being under a whole new staff. 109 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: It was just a lot. 110 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 8: And he know, he helped make that process smooth and 111 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 8: even though there was like ups and downs, like it 112 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 8: still was smooth and like there was just a lot 113 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 8: to learn from. And I really felt like he just 114 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 8: did a lot as far as just like unlocking another 115 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 8: part of me and really just like players on. 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: The team, like just he just brings that dog out 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: of everybody. 118 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 3: Another signing defensive end Dennis Karnak. He was rehabbing last 119 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: offseason from yet another knee injury. Of course, played very 120 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: well as the season went along. No reported terms of 121 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: the deal as of yet, but finally back to one. 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 9: I don't think I was running or even fully weight 123 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 9: bearing this time last year. So from a training standpoint, 124 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 9: it's it's a lot more fun to be just in 125 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 9: a group of guys working out getting ready for next season, 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 9: not relearning how to run and having to work through 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 9: that sort of stuff. And then I got my family 128 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 9: out here today. But I know, just as a whole, 129 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 9: we are so excited to kind of be able to 130 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 9: get our feet set and not just hit the ground 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 9: running with the season. So super excited and ready to 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 9: be out here. 133 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: And finally cornerback Monteric Brown reportedly three years, thirty three 134 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: million dollars, and he wanted to be here in Jacksonville 135 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: to continue. 136 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: He started as a seventh round. 137 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 6: Pick, just somewhere I always wanted to be. 138 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 7: You know, I got drafted here. 139 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 10: You know, Dad Watsh took a chance on the seventh rounder, 140 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 10: and man, just I enjoyed my time since I've been here. Man, 141 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 10: just play with these guys, these coaches, this organization. Man, 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 10: it just means a lot to me and I want 143 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 10: to continue that. You know, the chemistry is always strong, 144 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 10: you know, it just built even more. You know, we 145 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 10: all got a connection. You know, we all played play 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 10: good together. You know, just to keep that going, it 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 10: just means a lot. And man, the disguise the limit. 148 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 3: Those are the three signings and all three METHA media 149 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: earlier this week on Monday on a zoom call, Clinton Morris, 150 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: Dennis Gardak, Monteric Brown internal signings for the jag Sean. 151 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Bucky, how uh? 152 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: These aren't free agency splashes like people tend to want. 153 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: But to me, this is sort of getting back some 154 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 5: meat and potatoes that you need to have on your roster, 155 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 5: some core guys, and it's how you keep continuity going. 156 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 5: How important collectively is this group these moves right before 157 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: it gets started. 158 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 7: I think it's really important. 159 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: And it's important because the locker room sees how the 160 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: team rewards. 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 7: Hard work is and gad they go about it the 162 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 7: right way. 163 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that some of the guys that departed 164 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: were not the right guys, but when you see Monte Brown, 165 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: the seventh round pick end up with a three year, 166 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: thirty three million dollar deal where he basically guide it 167 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: because of the way that he grinded and the way 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: that he developed and improved and took advantage of small 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: opportunities that turned the bigger opportunities, and those things there's 170 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: an appreciation for that. You think about Quinton Morris and 171 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: what he was doing on special teams and how he 172 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: had to get it done on that before he got 173 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: a chance to get on the field and did when 174 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: he got his opportunities, he took advantage of those and 175 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: he's rewarded by coming back. Same thing with Guard that 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: that does wonders for the locker room because everyone that 177 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: comes in, no matter what level, they believe that if 178 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 4: I do the right things, if I play really well, 179 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: I'm a chance to be here for a long time. 180 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: So to me, that's the best part of setting the culture. 181 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 7: Is rewarding the guys that are real cultural fit. 182 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: They're all good stories, JP, but moneteric, as Bucky alluded 183 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: to go. To be honest, the first couple of years, 184 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: I would not have seen him eventually being a fifth 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 5: year guy, meaning second contract, playing into his fifth year. Bucky, 186 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 5: how much better did he get How does he fit? 187 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 6: Why is he back? I guess is the. 188 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 7: Question really good player? 189 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 4: And I think the best part about Monteric is it 190 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: would have been easy for him last year when you 191 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: bring in a first round pick like Travis Hunter, you 192 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: have some other guys come in Jordan Lewis, they previously 193 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: drafted Jaran Jones with a third round pick. 194 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 7: He never stopped working, He never. 195 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: Got discouraged or allowed that discouragement to prevent him from 196 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: putting on his best when he got his chances, and 197 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: I would say that he learned lessons from those early 198 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: struggles and kept fighting. And last year, Man, you can 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: make the case on the perimeter, he was the best 200 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: court in the most insistent corner. Despite them bringing in 201 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: Newsom and other guys, he was the consistent presence. 202 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 7: On the edge and the perimeter. 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: And sometimes, man, it takes someone really earning it, going 204 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: to hard road to make you have a. 205 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 7: Great appreciation for him. 206 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: And I think the coach staff in the front office 207 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: has a great appreciation. 208 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 7: For his journey and how he took advantage of. 209 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: Those opportunities when he had him and in spite of 210 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 4: the odds that were against him, getting those champces. 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 6: Is it just me? 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 5: Are they okay in the secondary now? I mean meaning 213 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 5: you have depth, you have Jarian coming back, Lewis, Travis 214 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 5: monterk ran saw they like him a lot. 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 6: It was sort of. 216 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 5: A weak spot at times last year giving up big plays. 217 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 5: But it feels like that group is getting there. 218 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think the scheme really works. 219 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: With the scheme and the coaches really worked with the personnel, 220 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: that's terrific. 221 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 7: I think safety is still a question in terms of 222 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 7: like what. 223 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: Are we going to do in terms of depth Dewey 224 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: and how do you reconfigure that? But look, we can 225 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: put the ball down and play, so. 226 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 7: You're encouraged by that. 227 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 4: The thing about free agency, particularly from the way the 228 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: Jaguars are approaching it, let's just let the first eight 229 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 4: to seventy two hours play out, and there're gonna be 230 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: some good players that are gonna be available at team 231 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: friendly prices. I think the Jaguars will jump in when 232 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: it gets to that level of free agency, as opposed 233 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: to what we've seen early where everyone is paying big 234 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: bucks and going for these premium pree agents. 235 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 7: I think the Jaguars are gonna kind of swap at 236 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 7: the bargain BND. 237 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: Well, JP knows that I'm the happiest little guy in 238 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 5: the Easter parade when they stay out of it. I mean, 239 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 5: there's no higher risk thing in the NFL than wading 240 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 5: deep into the waters. 241 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 6: Of the first day free agency. 242 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 5: I mean, more mistakes that you can't fix get made there. 243 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: And I get that sometimes you got to go do it. 244 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 5: And this team's done a lot. A lot of fans 245 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: emailed me yesterday. What are they doing? Why aren't they doing? 246 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: Stay out of this and enjoy it. Turn off the 247 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 5: lights in the back, go down and have some lunch, 248 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 5: Go get a run in, stay out of this stuff. 249 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 5: Yeah that's the old school guy me. But I can 250 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: get off my lawn by the way. 251 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's very old school. 252 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean you don't want to go to 253 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: the grocery store when you're hungry, and when. 254 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 7: You're desperate, you make so I applaud your approached that 255 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: James Gladstone Liam Tony are. 256 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Taking with this, because the good teams they don't jump 257 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 4: in when they need to. 258 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 7: But more often than not, John is right. 259 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 4: The mistakes that you make on those early days where 260 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: you overpay for a player, and then you get them 261 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 4: and you start playing, You're like, oh boy, we're never 262 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: going to get the right return on our investment. 263 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: It melted quick. 264 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wait. So now I would expect Wednesday 265 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 7: and beyond. 266 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: You'll see the Jaguars have an upticking activity trying to 267 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: find the right guys that can plug. 268 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 7: Some of the holes that they have out there. 269 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: Jack's season ticket. 270 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: Are you ready to return to the bank in twenty 271 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: twenty six? 272 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 7: Well? 273 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: Season ticket renewal information is coming of Members will be 274 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: contacted shortly regarding their specific seat situation, and if you 275 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: have questions or want to speak with a representative, call 276 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: the ticketing line at nine oh four six three three 277 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: two thousand and Yes, there is plenty of action going 278 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: on at the stadium as the City of the Future 279 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: construction continues right across the street from here at the 280 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: Miller Electric Center. 281 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, the Tuesday. 282 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: Podcast version, a special on Free Agency Week, JP Shadwick 283 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: and John Ozer from the Miller Electric Center at the 284 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: Hundai Studios and Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles 285 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: Free Agency and the League year officially at four o'clock Wednesday, 286 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: the eleventh, the legal tampering period. 287 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: The negotiation period is. 288 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: Upon us now and a couple of departing Jaguars. According 289 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: to reports, running back Travis ETM Junior and moving on 290 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: to the New Orleans Saints four years, fifty two million dollars. 291 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: It's about a two and a half hour drive to 292 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 3: New Orleans from his home town of Jennings, Louisiana. 293 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: Maybe the end of the Alvin Kamara era in New Orleans. 294 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: But good for Travis etn about thirteen million a year, 295 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: Bucky and the super Dome. 296 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot of money. 297 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: And we knew that if you got the free agency, 298 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: he could receive a big offer. 299 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 7: And congrats to him, man, one of the better guys 300 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 7: in the locker room. Just a joy. I love seeing 301 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 7: his interaction with Trevor after that. 302 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: They've been together for so long, And I'm honest with you, man, 303 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 4: the growth that he displayed as a playmaker in Jacksonville 304 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: is something that will be missed. But I also understand 305 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: when you're the Jags and you're sitting where you're sitting, man, 306 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: there's some big contracts that are coming down the pipe, 307 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: namely Trayvon Walking. 308 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: You're gonna have to deal with that and some of 309 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 7: the other guys. 310 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: You have to make some hard decisions, and unfortunately Travis 311 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: fell on the other side of that decision despite his 312 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: success as a running back. We're wishing well, but we'll 313 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: have to find somebody in the draft that can replace 314 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: some of the production that walks out the door. 315 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're gonna miss him. I think they're gonna miss 316 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 5: him primarily five or six plays a year, meaning the 317 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: run against San Francisco. That was a big time run 318 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: where he made a cut twenty yards downfield. That's where 319 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: he got really good late in his time with the Jaguars. 320 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: But to me, Bucky, this is sort of a At 321 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: some point you have to make philosophical decisions about what 322 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: you value. 323 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 6: Are you going to be a team that you know 324 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: overpays the running. 325 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: Back position, because most people think overpaying it is anywhere 326 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: above seven or eight million a year no matter who 327 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 5: you are, unless you're maybe Saquan or just you know, 328 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: mega elite McCaffrey. Are you going to be a draft, 329 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 5: develop and discard team at the running back position, which 330 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 5: really long term to stay within the cap, it's really 331 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: hard not to take the approach with that position. 332 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, A lot of it depends on how special the 333 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: back is. As Etn was good, I can't go so 334 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: far as to say that he was great for e Leap. 335 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: He had a lot of production for the Jaguars than 336 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: those things. But I can't put him in the same 337 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: category as the Christian mccaffrees. I can't put in the 338 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 4: same category as Saquan or even a Bjihon or even 339 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 4: if Jamior Gibbs. And so when you're beginning to make 340 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: that evaluation on hey, how much are we going to 341 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: pay for this player, you do have to kind of 342 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: do it and take kind of like the teal colored 343 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: glasses off and look at him in comparison to some 344 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: of the top backs in the league, and there's a 345 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: there's a price point that you know you can't exceed. 346 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,239 Speaker 7: Thirteen million dollars. 347 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: Was going to be too much for the Jaguars, And 348 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: so that's why you encourage him to sign that deal 349 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: because it's a great one for him and he might 350 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: be able to do it in that offense with kill 351 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: him more. I just think for the Jags, with so 352 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: much money tied into the quarterback, you just want to 353 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: make sure that you're able to kind of allocate the 354 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: resources correctly to ensure that number sixteen has what he needs. 355 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 7: Not only in the backfield, but on a perimanitive. 356 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: Look in JP, he was a good Jaguar. I mean 357 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 5: absolutely five years. He was hurt the first year, three 358 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 5: thousand yard seasons. A lot of memories created into you know, 359 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 5: the big play against the Chargers, yes that really, you know, 360 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 5: highlight moment plays, the touchdown against Pittsburgh that year. You 361 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: know the number twenty five overall pick late in the 362 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: first round, three thousand yard season. 363 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 6: This is a guy who. 364 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 5: Deserves to be remembered well by this organization and sometimes 365 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: in the league these days, that means a five year 366 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 5: run at certain positions. 367 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 6: That's okay. 368 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 5: This was a professional football player, and the Jaguars made 369 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 5: a professional football move to part ways based on the 370 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 5: circumstances right now, but best wishes to him, good kid, JP. 371 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: I know you enjoyed him today. 372 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: He was great to talk to the locker. 373 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: I think his best game overall was in that game 374 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: in London against the Bills where you had two touchdowns, 375 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: one hundred and what thirty six forty yards something like that. 376 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: Some receiving yards as well, at top and yeah, who 377 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: will be missed around here, but on to the next 378 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: at the running back position. 379 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: This is how it works to the football league. 380 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 6: JP's a pro, Becky, He's not going to get a 381 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 6: sentiment on on. 382 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: You next, onto the next. 383 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: And by the way, another Jaguars player speaking of next, 384 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: linebacker Devin Lloyd signing with the Carolina Panthers and the 385 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 3: Panthers revamping that defense and free agency bringing in Jalen 386 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: Phillips as the pass rusher and now Devin Lloyd three years, 387 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: forty five million, the reported number twenty five million of 388 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: that guaranteed, and of course coming off a highlight season 389 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: five interceptions, had the pick six against the Chief Sun 390 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: Monday Night Football, a bunch of other big plays this year. 391 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: Earlier in his career had some struggles trying to figure 392 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: out where on the field he was best to. 393 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: Be lined up. They seem to find that in spots 394 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: last season. 395 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: And now Devin Lloyd, Bucky gets some money from the 396 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: Panthers to add to that defense. 397 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 7: You know, it's surprised contract. 398 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: I know there was an expectation he may really really 399 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 4: really break the bank. 400 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 7: That money is like solid for who he is and 401 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 7: what he's been able to do throughout his career. He's 402 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 7: a really good player. Last year was his best year. 403 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: Made a ton of big plays for the Jaguars. Anthony 404 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 4: Campanilli and those guys found a way to really unlock 405 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 4: his talents. Used him a lot as a pass rusher, 406 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 4: On blissed in those things reduced his load and coverage 407 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 4: and he played well. He's another good guy in the 408 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: locker room. He loved talking to him. 409 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 7: Were talking about professionalism. He had that, so you wish 410 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 7: him well. 411 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: He was another guy that was a great contributor, but 412 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: I think there was a price point that you weren't 413 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: going to exceed to bring him back. 414 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 5: It's and I'm like you, guys, I really enjoyed Devin. 415 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 5: He was a pro for four years, always approaching right, 416 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 5: even in some of the years where he was criticized 417 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 5: and going through tough times. 418 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 6: Never you know, it was a bad guy to deal with. 419 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 6: I'm sure. Always very good at fans, so they kind. 420 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Of got your root for. 421 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: It's hard to pay big, big money for a linebacker 422 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: to make interceptions, and it's it's great when they happen. 423 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 5: But and I'm not dismissing anything he did because there 424 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: are games this year they wouldn't have won made those plays. 425 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: But Bucky, when you're projecting forward, it's hard to project 426 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: five interceptions from a linebacker, and then it's hard to 427 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: measure are those interceptions you know, do they trump everything 428 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 5: else going on? 429 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 7: You know? 430 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 5: Meaning can you get value at that spot? Is that 431 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: worth the money for interceptions? I think philosophically a lot 432 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: of teams would have made this same move with Devin Lloyd. 433 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of teams would have made 434 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 4: that move with an eye towards the draft class. Right 435 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: this draft class is loaded with inside linebacker, off ball 436 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: linebacker type, and there's a feel or a sense, Okay, 437 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: second or third round, we might be able to get 438 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: a comparable replacement. 439 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 7: You may never get anyone that can come down with the. 440 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: Five interceptions and the splash plays they need delivered this year, 441 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: But in terms of that position and maybe wanting more 442 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 4: more in the run game, more as a pass rusher, 443 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: more big plays, yeah, you're always hopeful that you can 444 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: get more than that, even though Devin Lloyd delivered in 445 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. 446 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 5: Well, I think you also wonder not just can you 447 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: get that kind of production from a rookie. Realistically, were 448 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 5: you going to get five picks out of Devon again? 449 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a tough thing to replicate. I'm not 450 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 5: saying you can't, but that's a tough thing to replicate 451 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: in your odds at that position. I've covered linebackers who've 452 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 5: had years like this. It's hard for linebackers to get 453 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 5: five a year. I mean, that was a special kind 454 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: of year. And I feel like the Jaguars probably got 455 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 5: the best out of Devin Lloyd this year. 456 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 7: I would agree with that. 457 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 4: Look, I can't imagine him having a better year than 458 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: he had this year. 459 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 7: I'm a big Johnny on the spot plays that he made. 460 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: I can't imagine him replicating back all over again. And 461 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 4: sometimes it is better to move on from a player 462 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 4: a year too early than a year too late. This 463 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: might be the Jaguars moving on knowing, hey, he may 464 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: continue to play well for the next year or two. 465 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 4: But we're okay with that because we feel like we 466 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: got the best that we could get out of. 467 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 5: Him, and if he does good for him, I mean absolutely, 468 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: But I do think these are two positions. I thought 469 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: going to the off season jp that the Jaguars were 470 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: in good shape because the two guys they might lose, 471 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: which or you know, the two guys you feeb they 472 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 5: were going to lose in Lloyd and Etn running back 473 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: and inside linebacker. You shouldn't really need to draft top 474 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: ten to get quality players who can match what these 475 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: guys did. You're supposed to be able to go into 476 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: the draft second, third round, three third round picks, Bucky 477 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: to me, you're supposed to be able to get guys 478 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: who can play these two positions at a at a 479 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: very functional starting level, maybe even right away. 480 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 481 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 4: No, there's a difference now because if you ask them 482 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: old school running backs, you asked Red Taylor, you'd tell 483 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: you there's a difference in the top ten pick and 484 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: one of the third rounds. 485 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 7: You're throwing out there. But I do understand your sentiment. 486 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: You can't find guys in this system that can give you. 487 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 7: The production that you're looking. I'm not going to get Red. 488 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: And traditionally, I would say the sweet spot for running 489 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 4: backs is the second round. If you go back and 490 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 4: look at history, there are a bunch of good running 491 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 4: backs that were selected in that round, and the Jaguars 492 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: should have an eye on some of the guys in 493 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: this player that could be available there like Jenderian Price 494 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: from Notre Dame, Emmitt Johnson from Nebraska, Mike Washington from Arkansas. 495 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: There will be some guys that would be of interest 496 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: to the Jaguars on day two in that sweet spot 497 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: where you talk about value and production kind of matching up. 498 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: What do you think overall, Bucky about the I mean 499 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 5: we talked a little bit, but about the off season, 500 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 5: the Jaguars approach. 501 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 6: To staying at it. 502 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: I guess you already talked about it. Just staying out 503 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 5: of first wave and sort of filling in spots as 504 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 5: they go along rather than splashing me and through the 505 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: atime and through free ation. 506 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: I think that's a big part of their team building strategy, right. 507 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: I think there are a few things. 508 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 7: We mentioned. There's some guys on the team. 509 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: Their contracts are going to have to be addressed Trayvon Walker, 510 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 4: Parker Washington, Read and Strange eventually, So you try to balance, Hey, 511 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: we need to put some money up to the side 512 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: to take care of my guys that we love as 513 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: our core contributors, while also having an eye towards the future. 514 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: But you want to make sure you reward your own 515 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: guys first, Uh, to keep the chemistry and the connectivity 516 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: right in the locker room. 517 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 7: And then you can supplement the other things. That the 518 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 7: holes are the boys that you're cut off. 519 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 6: It's time. 520 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 5: Good teams the core players are the drafted players and 521 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 5: not the free agent players. And that's I mean, I 522 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 5: think Jacobe Meyer's core player. You know, this team has 523 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 5: acquired some free agents who have been core players Foyer, 524 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: but overall, it's hard to stay on budget when you're 525 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: trying to build your core through free agency, when you're 526 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 5: shopping when you're hungry. 527 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Jacobe as well. 528 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, remember, yeah, they just got ahead of free 529 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: agency with right because he was going to be a 530 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: rental the rest of the year and a free agent 531 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: coming up there and double down on it, right. 532 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 6: So that's yeah. 533 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: So the good teams again, it's hard to shop well 534 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: when you're hunger. 535 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: That's a really good it really is, Bucky. 536 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: And if you're gonna go hungry, shopping somewhere, go to 537 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: the public's We're shopping. 538 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Is a pleasure. 539 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 7: I like that. 540 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: So you do ja thanking on his feet, Yeah, Bucky, 541 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: You've got TV this week free agency, right. 542 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 7: Free agent frenzy. 543 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: So we're talking about all those moves that are tentatively 544 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: agreed to but will officially be ratified on Wednesday. 545 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 7: So now it should be a lot of fun doing. 546 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: That to day and then just continue to pay attention 547 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 4: to the draft because before you know it, it'd be here, 548 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 4: new collection of stars entering the league. 549 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: It's Bucky's favorite time of year, it really is. 550 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: He certainly he's still coming down from the combine. 551 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to get past that. 552 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 7: It is tough. It is tough to get past the combine. 553 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 7: The combine is everything that you go. 554 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 6: Well, O tas are coming up. 555 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: But it's John's favorite time. That's his super Bowl. 556 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 7: As you know how much I love O SA's and Minigan. 557 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 7: Their way to start tracking completion and all of that 558 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 7: is important. 559 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 6: All right, fucked, try say Buddy, all right, you go. 560 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks out of here. John Ozier, J P. 561 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: Shaddick are thanks to Brent Riebert, Joe Fortunado, and thanks 562 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: to you for listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks.