WEBVTT - Draft Show: Setting the Stage 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:11.520 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.400 war room for incenter news and traft analysis from deep 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.279 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:29.360 das Cowboys Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. Today 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.080 is Wednesday, January twenty five, twenty twenty three. We are 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.240 ninety two days away from the twenty twenty three NFL 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:40.479 Draft Kansas City, Missouri. As we are back on the 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.600 Draft Show presented by Miller Lite here from the Star 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.720 in Frisco. And ladies and gentlemen, we've got some work 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.239 to do. How about that? How about that? We've got 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.240 some work to do. Brian brought us Bobby belt Ayisha 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:59.080 Morrison making her Draft show debut. Very warm, Welcome to 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.240 the squad. I'm Kyle Omens. How are we doing today? 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.760 I'll tell you what you said. Ninety two days right too? 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.880 All right, we'll get there eventually. Next thing you know, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.720 it'll be well, it'll be forty two days until the Jeff. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.320 But yeah, it's it's great to be with everybody, and 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.880 I always look forward to This is one of my 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.880 favorite podcasts that I do. Bobby, I'm sorry, I know 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.520 we do our podcast together and stuff like that. We 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.080 got all this stuff on, but this is my favorite one. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.560 It really really is, because I love team building. I 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.640 love talking about players, I love discussions, I love ideas, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.120 I love disagreements. That's I live for that in a 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.080 war room setting, and that's what If I can't do 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.800 that anymore like I used to, this is the next 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.840 best thing for me. And I'm so excited to be 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.960 with you guys and make this journey to the Draft, 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.000 and we're excited to be along for it because another 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.040 thing you love is teaching and learning the game and 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.920 having others learned the game. And I certainly did four 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.920 years ago whenever I jumped on the Draft show for 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.480 the first time. Same thing with Kattie, Jeff Cavanaugh, Bobby 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.000 over at the fan whenever they were all there. I mean, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.280 it's such a learning environment, not only for the people 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.680 in this room, but for the people listening. And I 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.400 think that's what's going to be the most exciting thing 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.720 about this year. Bobby, glad to have you back for 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.280 your second straight campaign. Yep, I'm ready. Well, I'm half ready. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.680 I'm not Brian brought us ready yet. Does anybody really 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.120 any of us no, no, no, no, no, you can't 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.760 be uh No, I'm worried about that young lady taking 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.760 it to me on these happened. I mean, I see 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.160 no backdown when I watch your shows, I see no 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.120 backdown over. So I'm kind of a little bit nervous 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.200 about having to battle somebody over on the other side 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.480 of this table. Yeah, no, this is this is one 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.120 where man the Cowboys. I was telling you last night, 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.280 the night Dak got hurt. Yeah, in Tampa Bay. Yeah. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.960 I drove home and I believe I turned on it 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:55.320 was Peter Skernsky the Northwestern I turned on Peter Scronsky 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.680 tape and then I watched Joey Porter and that was 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.040 and I was like, all right, here we go, gonna 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.120 get go. And then they think top five pick man. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.280 They put it together, they put it together, and they delayed. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.200 They put me on a delay. So I'm not at 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.840 broad est levels yet, but we're gonna get there. We're 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.360 gonna get there. Asha, glad to have you along for 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.600 your debut as well. What what what can we expect 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.639 because right now the way that brought us just set 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.400 it up. Me and Bobby are gonna be the mediators 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.040 of this this group here, man, I'm not gonna be 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.280 argumentative on here. I'm gonna be fine. I mean, I'm 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.000 gonna clip that and bring it up next time. The 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.959 first time I could see her crossing the table, I 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.000 can see that. I mean, the thing I'm learning is 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.120 that we I think we all look at the game differently. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.720 I think we all look at it differently. So I'm 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:44.600 gonna try to listen to what everyone is saying and 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.280 um not just trust my eyes all the time because 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.240 I'm still learning myself. So I'm not gonna be argumentative, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.840 but if i feel like I'm right, i might. Hey, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.880 that's what we want. We want that war that war 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.320 room feel where you don't always agree, you don't always 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.400 get there. But no fun. That way, it's gonna be 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.240 a lot of fun. It's gonna be a blast. So 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.960 here's the thing the light Bobby just mentioned. The Cowboys 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.120 did not indeed go on one and seventeen or whatever 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.080 it ended up being one in sixteen. They went twelve 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:16.720 and five in the regular season, made it to the 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.960 divisional round, and they will pick at number twenty six overall. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.719 It's actually the number twenty seven slot, but the twenty 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.960 first pick was forfeited by Miami, and that that little 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:31.760 tampering scandal issue, yah issue, Stephen Ross ye kerfuffle exactly. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.479 So they forfeited that pick that slides the Cowboys down one, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.520 but they'll pick twenty seventh in every round after that. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.080 They have a pick in every single round, So all 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.960 the draft capital is still there, and you could potentially 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.240 get three comp picks for Connor Williams, Randy Gregory, and 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.520 then add on Centric Wilson it's the third one, so 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.320 you can potentially have up to ten picks here. Brian, 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.600 where is the talent located in the draft? Yeah? You know, uh, 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.400 as we get started on this journey, I think we're 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.719 all kind of figuring this out. You know, you're trying 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.400 to put like to me, I feel like, guys that 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.720 I've seen a lot of cornerbacks. I feel like I've 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.680 seen a lot of wide receivers. I've felt like I've 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.880 seen some and I've heard some of your takes about 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.880 wide receivers already. So but I've felt like I've seen 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:24.320 offensive tackles, maybe not the center or the maybe a 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.599 couple of guards, but more offensive tackles, a lot of edge, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.080 a lot of edge so far, and so you know, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.440 when you get to about one hundred players into this thing, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.240 you're starting to see a little bit and I that's 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.360 that's kind of how the pattern for me is when 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.920 you stack them all, is it going to be like, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.040 oh man, it looks like they're just as a complete 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.200 there's gonna be a complete run that you're gonna be 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.279 able to take on those defensive ends. Is there something 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.360 with those offensive tackles? I think that's the thing every 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.400 year that we've gotten a little bit better with, is 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:56.400 these offensive tackles as we do this show. The wide receivers, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.359 there's there's some names there. Is it is the quality 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.000 of what we've seen the past couple of years that's 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.960 going to be debatable for a lot of folks, I 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.080 think on this show, and I think edge rusher, we've 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.240 seen good classes of edge rushers lately. Is it as 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.680 top heavy though? Do you have the Aidan Hutchinson's, the 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.640 Cabon Thibadeaus, the Treyvon Walkers at the top of this 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.119 draft that you normally do, or is it the deeper 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.080 edge rusher draft when you look at it as a whole. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.039 I think there's some guys that are maybe second third 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:26.960 round that could do some things for you. I was 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.680 looking at um. I can't say, I can't say his 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.880 name to Kansas State. I think y'all was just yeah, yeah, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.599 that's what y'all was just saying. I was looking at 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.440 him earlier. So it's Felix on your d k U Zama, Yeah, 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:44.159 I mean I guess Felix, Yeah, Felix, Felix k or 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.120 Felix ak No, No, I do I think that it is. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.160 Like Brian said, it's a lot of edge guys in here. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.560 I was impressed by a lot of the dps. I 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.600 was like, Dane, this is maybe that's what lot of 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.679 wide receivers look like. Crab. That's what we was talking about. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.279 That's what we're talking about yesterday with Chris. Chris Baby 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.840 was like, why over like, I don't know about the 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.479 wide receivers because these dvs vs are really good. Do 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.960 you like you liked the wide receivers that you've looked at? Yeah, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.200 I tell you what there were. There were a couple 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.200 of guys there too. And where where the line is 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:15.960 going to be drawn? I don't know when you start 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.520 to talk about, you know, Quentin Johnston from TCU as 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.440 a guy. I know a lot of people have him 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.640 as one of the top guys. Where do you have 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:28.320 Jordan Addison from USC you know, I mean there's there's that, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.840 Jackson Smith and Jigbu at Ohio State is another one 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.440 j Hyatt. So all of a sudden, and maybe this 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.760 is funny because I used to know we're talking about this. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.160 She's like, man, are you sure about these wide receivers? 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.840 And I think she's right about something. I don't think 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.120 you have that that that group where with the CD 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.600 Lamb or the Chase or the guys or the Jefferson's, 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.320 the guys like that. I don't know if it's at 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.880 the top of the board like that. I think she's 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.880 more right about it the more you go back. If 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.200 I had to had to stack that, you would probably 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.760 have some guys ahead of some of those wide receivers. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.600 But I don't think it's a bad group. I just 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:11.200 don't know. And I really like what she's talking about. About. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.560 You know, where are those guys? Where are they going 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.360 to fit? If you need one? Are you going as 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.120 one of these guys like with Jackson Smith and Jigba, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.720 Is he a guy that you would probably could have 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.200 a chance at at twenty six. You know that's that's 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.640 the thing. Because he's dealing with injuries too, you don't 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.920 necessarily know where he's gonna be, right. See, that's what 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.439 I'm trying to say. What guys, I think the Cowboys. 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.840 If I had to make an early just an early 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.560 thought about the Cowboys, I think it's very much sit 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.000 and let the board come to them. I don't see 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.120 anything right now that's making me say, well, I need 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.440 to move up. I mean, you're gonna have potentially a 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.880 lot of picks. Those cop picks are tradeable, so you know, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.840 maybe you can find a way to manipulate and go forward. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.560 But until I stack this thing up, man, I'm just 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.080 kind of like looking at it and going, Okay, I 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.359 think there's certain bought, certain pockets I could hit at 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.000 some of these positions. Well, when you talk about the 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.640 receivers like they are deep, um, but it isn't. It's 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.280 a it's a flawed group, like even the three that 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.680 we just threw out there, like they all have warts 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.080 and problems. With him, Jordan Addison, a lot of people 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:20.000 are gonna feel like he's too small. Yeah, you've got 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.000 you've got the the size issue there on Jackson Smith 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.160 and Jigba you've got the injuries and how healthy he 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.000 can stay. Quintin Johnston, like, I love Quintin Johnston, but 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.400 like that's my that's that would be my number one receiver. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.679 But even Quentin Johnson a guy where it's like, why 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.040 does it look like at times it's so difficult for 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.120 a six four, two hundred fifteen pound receiver to get 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.400 off press like it has spent at times for him? 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.760 He and and again I love Quentin Johnston, but is 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.719 he you know he does he, you know, get off 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.120 press as well? Does he sink his hips? Is he 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.080 as cleaner route runner as he needs to be? I 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:56.040 don't see a guy who is necessarily as as clean 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:57.360 as you'd wanted to be for a guy that's at 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.080 the top of the receiver class. But that's my point 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.120 in general about the receiver is that it's not it's deep. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:03.600 There are guys to like, but I don't think there's 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.679 anybody where it's like you were saying earlier, it's not like, oh, 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.480 here's Ceedee Lamb, or here's Jamar Chase or here's you 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.719 know whoever, Yeah, you raised those eyebrows over there, that's 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.120 the first I looked over. Those eyebrows went straight up 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.199 when he was talking about press and all that. I'm 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.240 super biased because I dB is the first position I 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:25.360 like actually learned how how it's billion and stuff. So 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.679 I think there's some good press corners, and there are. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.560 If I had to look at this class right now 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.440 and say there was a strength, it would be in 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.920 the secondary. I think it would be corner right now 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.000 of the draft, because there's five or six guys that 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.240 I really feel comfortable with taking in the first round 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.560 at the moment. I mean, of course, draft grades aren't 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.640 complete by no stretch of the imagination, but they're high 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.240 end guys right now at the cornerback spot wide receiver. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.280 I think I'm right on with you, guys. I think 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.439 this is a class that has guys that will come 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.120 in and make an impact. But are they top fifteen picks? 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.599 Are they home run picks like you have with the 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.200 Davante Smiths and the Ceedee Lambs and the Jerry Judy's 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.760 and these guys that we've seen previously and that have 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.520 come out and immediately been on a roster and been 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.480 that number one wide receiver. Not necessarily, I think these 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:14.480 are all guys that are either projects or they've got 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:18.400 question marks around them. That doesn't mean sitting at twenty 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.880 six you should pass up on a wide receiver. That 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.720 just means you might have some more to look at 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.600 at wide receiver. I'll be struggling to like, obviously, I'm new, 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.040 you know, I'm just now starting to watch like more 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.199 college tape and board that clap and gets on my 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:36.440 nerves out. Yeah, it's just so that such a big 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.640 difference between obviously, like from college to the league. And 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.319 I was just who's ill watching doing that? Last night 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:43.800 I was watching one of the quarterbacks and he was 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.080 just like he was like faking and stuff, and I 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.360 was like, what is I mean, I understand it, but 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:55.640 Stroud will do that monkers. Okay, okay, if I could. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.199 You're talking about the corners of the press corners you've 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.560 seen and the Cowboys. That obviously is something that the 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.040 Cowboys are going to talk about here with their own 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.760 situation though, all right, I don't know, but early this 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.280 Keiley Ringo from Georgia, everybody's got him as one of 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.040 the top guys. I'm not gonna lie. I'm scared to 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.440 death of him to be honest with you, Christian Christian 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.480 Gonzalez the corner from Oregon. These are like the top 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.720 two guys that I'm seeing on some of these lists, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.960 on some top one hundred lists and stuff like that. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.000 I got down to Joey Porter Junior from Penn State 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.640 and I'm like, ah, cornerback out like got one. So 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.480 to me, I mean, that's what that's what's gonna be 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.360 the beauty of how we start this. I felt like 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.120 if you look at some of these initial lists, it's 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.840 like I wouldn't have Keiley Ringo at George's my top 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.160 guy as corner. I got some questions I mentioned about 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.920 Christian Gonzalez from Oregon as well. Oregon's put some kids 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.920 in the league here recently, the playing corner and playing 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.680 pretty well. But I that's that's the that's the big 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.600 mystery is like, Okay, when you sort this out, you know, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.760 maybe the corners in this draft and I wish I 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.600 don't know, maybe you feel different me. I kind of 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.120 feel like though of the top two, I wasn't enamored 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.800 with everybody else below that, I was a little bit 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:15.560 more interested. Well, well, the Gonzalez Ringo has kind of 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.679 consensus to for you, Brian, Christian gonzalezesn't get into the 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.280 Cowboys at twenty No, there's no no, no no, no, no, no 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.080 no no. Ringo could see. That's what I'm saying, though 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.160 I I just did not. I was not the thing 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:32.480 with Gonzalez and Ringo clearly, clearly as I think that 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.920 people have him way too hot. It's all traits of 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.560 ring way too. There were times whenever you look at 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:41.360 him on film and he's getting beat on simple simple stuff. Yeah, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.240 it's it's all traits all the way together. I like 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.720 Christian Gonzalez a lot. He's my top guy right now. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.840 He's my top corner because I like the way that 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.040 he's got the athleticism. The only thing with him is 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.960 his strength. I need him to bulk up a little 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.120 bit more. I need him to suppress a little bit. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.960 You liked him, you liked him the most. No, I 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.120 want you to crucify me. Who I think is is 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:06.960 exactly this Forbes. There you go. I think that Imanuel Forbes. 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.040 He's just he's interesting to me because he's he's lengthy, right, 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.920 so he kind of on the field. You see him. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.520 When I saw him, immediately thought like he looked like 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.080 Nashan Rdish, Like I was like, dang, he so long, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.040 But then when you see how physical he is and 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.960 the way he uses his length, I think he's I 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.080 think he jams well at the line um but he 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.320 just has a nose for the ball. And I think 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:32.920 a lot of that is because he's smart. I think 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.560 he reads well. But I was impressed with how much 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.720 he was willing to come down and tackle in the box, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.880 like he plays at every level. The only thing is 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.280 is that you know he's he's gonna take risk. He's 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.200 gonna take a risk. He's one of those guys. But 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.720 I don't know. I saw some good things in him, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.720 and I think he could be a sleeper. I think 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.080 he and he's just you know, you play corner, you 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.640 gotta be like I'm that guy, and he has that 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.760 I'm that guy mentality watching him. So I really like, 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.440 I'll tell you what I think you got. I think 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.920 you got the guy? What you Bobby? He? I mean, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.080 he he has some digs to him. It's like the 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.120 ball production is really good, the size is good. But 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.320 like you do question, he's over aggressive at times and 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.720 it gets him, it gets him hurt. Yeah, especially against 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.920 a good wide receiver, good out runner. Yeah, bounce him 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.920 back to Ringo. I'm curious, Bryant, do you have any 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.920 concerns at all? Because I thought last year he was 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.400 much better than he was this past year. Ringo was, Yeah, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.440 do you have any concern at all that you're you're 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.640 putting too much emphasis on on the big plays the 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.760 way everybody seemed to with AJ Terrell when he was 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:35.120 coming out Ringo and Terrell Terrell better than Ringo, though, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.120 did you? I guess I just remember Terrell took a 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.280 lot of heat for it. Like I feel like the 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.440 Terrell and Ringo conversations to this point are playing up 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.680 very similar, and obviously they're two different players, So you 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.840 can't just say, well, Terrell succeeded, so Ringo will as well. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.720 I'm just saying, is that something that you would guard 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.160 against a little bit? As am I looking too much? 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.200 I don't watch plays of a young player. Do you 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.360 feel like this guy can really run? Do you feel 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.360 like he can really catch up? Yeah? Do you really? Yep? Oh? 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.160 David Oregon, Auburn, Florida lsu games. I got to watch. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:10.000 I think he can run, I said, Auburn, Florida LSU. Yeah, So, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.400 I mean those are three games he should have impressed 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.800 you in. It's not like he's playing up against I 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.960 just to me, I saw separation there when you watched 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.680 him play. Maybe I felt like there was more separation 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.320 in the Oregon game than others. But you know the 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.840 thing about it is, to me, I just felt like 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.800 that when you know she's talking about this guy's six two, 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.760 he's two ten. That's the measurables you're working off right now. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.040 I kind of felt like when you when you when 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.720 she was talking about Forbes and what I can I 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.320 can live. I can live with the way that he 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.480 plays because I kind of feel like, though you're gonna 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.400 he's gonna make more plays, he's gonna he's gonna defend 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.480 more past. Yeah, there's a there's a looseness to his game, 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.760 and maybe he comes off plays and stuff like that. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.760 I just feel like a guy that reads really quick, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.160 really reacts well. He'll undercut some routes. He's got a 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.960 nose for the balls. She said that exactly right. He's 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.399 got ball skills. I mean he puts himself in a 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.600 lot more positions to make plays. Plus he throws his 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.800 body around in there. That's when I'm watching nat on tape. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.639 That's why I'm you know me, the guy that carries, 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.480 the guy that routes across the field, stuff like that, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.320 That's what I see. Yeah, he's six foot, he's one 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.520 hundred and eighty pounds. He looks real thin on tape. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.240 He does, he does, he looks. But and the guy 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.560 makes a ton of plays. He plays with an edge. 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.640 I like that about the kid, I really really do. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.439 And the thing about Ringo, one of the knocks that 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.639 I had is one he doesn't travel. He's stuck on 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.480 one side of the one side of the formation. That's 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.960 not a terrible knock, but mine is he doesn't want 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.600 to come down and hit you in the run defense. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.720 He he doesn't want to come downhill. He's more of 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.080 a finesse guy. He's got the speed. I agree with Bobby. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.640 I think he can run. I think he can run 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.879 with anybody. But is he my number one guy? I 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.960 would actually put Gonzalez above him because everything you just 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:57.720 said about Emmanuel Forbes, I think about Gonzalez. I think 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.000 he's a guy. He's sticky, he stays on top of guys, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:01.600 the top of their routes. He breaks to the ball. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.880 He's got a good read both in zone and in press. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:05.960 He's not the strongest guy in the fold, but he's 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:07.720 somebody that's gonna come up and put hands on you 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.520 if you need to. So I like this. We've got 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.359 some corner talk early on. How that's gonna be one 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.440 of the positions. I think this Cowboys team is going 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.000 to talk about it. That's that's gonna be a line. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.480 By the way, about all these cornerbacks that we've said 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.760 about A couple of these guys aren't is they're skinny. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.480 There's a lot of skinny. Is not one of those 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.320 guys he's no, no, no, no. Ringos built pretty well. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.920 But I mean like Gonzalez, like Witherspoon, Smith, like, they're all, 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.000 like I think, pretty lanky. Can I ask you, is 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.600 that do you guys think that's maybe like a trend now? 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.760 Like a because I feel like, looking at this jet, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.400 like you said, I was looking at them, I was like, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.360 why are so many of these guys? I know that 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.000 a lot of players are trying to stay more lean now, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.479 but I was just I was really thrown off, Well, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.639 how many guys were slim looking for corner I was like, 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.480 how big was Sauce Gardener last year? He was Sauce 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.600 was six three and what was he like one five 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.560 or something? Maybe some guys that were that were thought 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:08.200 about initially as being wide receivers all of a sudden, Yeah, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.359 all they would think about, Okay, they're gonna play at 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.440 wide receiver, tolling thin and then you know you can't 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.880 play receivers, so now you they move them over to corner. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.800 Ryan said, you don't have hands, go play corner. I 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.119 feel like so many of them on long arms and yeah, 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.080 and that's a new thing that's to me, a thing 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:24.080 that I feel like I haven't seen a lot lately. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.480 And I thought it was funny you brought up Nashan Right. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.399 His brothers in this draft, Ray Sean Right, who was 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.199 the star of the Last Chance You He was at 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.960