Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your
Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and traft analysis from deep
Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,
Speaker 1: das Cowboys Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. Today
Speaker 1: is Wednesday, January twenty five, twenty twenty three. We are
Speaker 1: ninety two days away from the twenty twenty three NFL
Speaker 1: Draft Kansas City, Missouri. As we are back on the
Speaker 1: Draft Show presented by Miller Lite here from the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. And ladies and gentlemen, we've got some work
Speaker 1: to do. How about that? How about that? We've got
Speaker 1: some work to do. Brian brought us Bobby belt Ayisha
Speaker 1: Morrison making her Draft show debut. Very warm, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the squad. I'm Kyle Omens. How are we doing today?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you said. Ninety two days right too?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get there eventually. Next thing you know,
Speaker 1: it'll be well, it'll be forty two days until the Jeff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's great to be with everybody, and
Speaker 1: I always look forward to This is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite podcasts that I do. Bobby, I'm sorry, I know
Speaker 1: we do our podcast together and stuff like that. We
Speaker 1: got all this stuff on, but this is my favorite one.
Speaker 1: It really really is, because I love team building. I
Speaker 1: love talking about players, I love discussions, I love ideas,
Speaker 1: I love disagreements. That's I live for that in a
Speaker 1: war room setting, and that's what If I can't do
Speaker 1: that anymore like I used to, this is the next
Speaker 1: best thing for me. And I'm so excited to be
Speaker 1: with you guys and make this journey to the Draft,
Speaker 1: and we're excited to be along for it because another
Speaker 1: thing you love is teaching and learning the game and
Speaker 1: having others learned the game. And I certainly did four
Speaker 1: years ago whenever I jumped on the Draft show for
Speaker 1: the first time. Same thing with Kattie, Jeff Cavanaugh, Bobby
Speaker 1: over at the fan whenever they were all there. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's such a learning environment, not only for the people
Speaker 1: in this room, but for the people listening. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what's going to be the most exciting thing
Speaker 1: about this year. Bobby, glad to have you back for
Speaker 1: your second straight campaign. Yep, I'm ready. Well, I'm half ready.
Speaker 1: I'm not Brian brought us ready yet. Does anybody really
Speaker 1: any of us no, no, no, no, no, you can't
Speaker 1: be uh No, I'm worried about that young lady taking
Speaker 1: it to me on these happened. I mean, I see
Speaker 1: no backdown when I watch your shows, I see no
Speaker 1: backdown over. So I'm kind of a little bit nervous
Speaker 1: about having to battle somebody over on the other side
Speaker 1: of this table. Yeah, no, this is this is one
Speaker 1: where man the Cowboys. I was telling you last night,
Speaker 1: the night Dak got hurt. Yeah, in Tampa Bay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I drove home and I believe I turned on it
Speaker 1: was Peter Skernsky the Northwestern I turned on Peter Scronsky
Speaker 1: tape and then I watched Joey Porter and that was
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right, here we go, gonna
Speaker 1: get go. And then they think top five pick man.
Speaker 1: They put it together, they put it together, and they delayed.
Speaker 1: They put me on a delay. So I'm not at
Speaker 1: broad est levels yet, but we're gonna get there. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get there. Asha, glad to have you along for
Speaker 1: your debut as well. What what what can we expect
Speaker 1: because right now the way that brought us just set
Speaker 1: it up. Me and Bobby are gonna be the mediators
Speaker 1: of this this group here, man, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: argumentative on here. I'm gonna be fine. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna clip that and bring it up next time. The
Speaker 1: first time I could see her crossing the table, I
Speaker 1: can see that. I mean, the thing I'm learning is
Speaker 1: that we I think we all look at the game differently.
Speaker 1: I think we all look at it differently. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to listen to what everyone is saying and
Speaker 1: um not just trust my eyes all the time because
Speaker 1: I'm still learning myself. So I'm not gonna be argumentative,
Speaker 1: but if i feel like I'm right, i might. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what we want. We want that war that war
Speaker 1: room feel where you don't always agree, you don't always
Speaker 1: get there. But no fun. That way, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It's gonna be a blast. So
Speaker 1: here's the thing the light Bobby just mentioned. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: did not indeed go on one and seventeen or whatever
Speaker 1: it ended up being one in sixteen. They went twelve
Speaker 1: and five in the regular season, made it to the
Speaker 1: divisional round, and they will pick at number twenty six overall.
Speaker 1: It's actually the number twenty seven slot, but the twenty
Speaker 1: first pick was forfeited by Miami, and that that little
Speaker 1: tampering scandal issue, yah issue, Stephen Ross ye kerfuffle exactly.
Speaker 1: So they forfeited that pick that slides the Cowboys down one,
Speaker 1: but they'll pick twenty seventh in every round after that.
Speaker 1: They have a pick in every single round, So all
Speaker 1: the draft capital is still there, and you could potentially
Speaker 1: get three comp picks for Connor Williams, Randy Gregory, and
Speaker 1: then add on Centric Wilson it's the third one, so
Speaker 1: you can potentially have up to ten picks here. Brian,
Speaker 1: where is the talent located in the draft? Yeah? You know, uh,
Speaker 1: as we get started on this journey, I think we're
Speaker 1: all kind of figuring this out. You know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to put like to me, I feel like, guys that
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of cornerbacks. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of wide receivers. I've felt like I've
Speaker 1: seen some and I've heard some of your takes about
Speaker 1: wide receivers already. So but I've felt like I've seen
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, maybe not the center or the maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of guards, but more offensive tackles, a lot of edge,
Speaker 1: a lot of edge so far, and so you know,
Speaker 1: when you get to about one hundred players into this thing,
Speaker 1: you're starting to see a little bit and I that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of how the pattern for me is when
Speaker 1: you stack them all, is it going to be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it looks like they're just as a complete
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a complete run that you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to take on those defensive ends. Is there something
Speaker 1: with those offensive tackles? I think that's the thing every
Speaker 1: year that we've gotten a little bit better with, is
Speaker 1: these offensive tackles as we do this show. The wide receivers,
Speaker 1: there's there's some names there. Is it is the quality
Speaker 1: of what we've seen the past couple of years that's
Speaker 1: going to be debatable for a lot of folks, I
Speaker 1: think on this show, and I think edge rusher, we've
Speaker 1: seen good classes of edge rushers lately. Is it as
Speaker 1: top heavy though? Do you have the Aidan Hutchinson's, the
Speaker 1: Cabon Thibadeaus, the Treyvon Walkers at the top of this
Speaker 1: draft that you normally do, or is it the deeper
Speaker 1: edge rusher draft when you look at it as a whole.
Speaker 1: I think there's some guys that are maybe second third
Speaker 1: round that could do some things for you. I was
Speaker 1: looking at um. I can't say, I can't say his
Speaker 1: name to Kansas State. I think y'all was just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what y'all was just saying. I was looking at
Speaker 1: him earlier. So it's Felix on your d k U Zama, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I guess Felix, Yeah, Felix, Felix k or
Speaker 1: Felix ak No, No, I do I think that it is.
Speaker 1: Like Brian said, it's a lot of edge guys in here.
Speaker 1: I was impressed by a lot of the dps. I
Speaker 1: was like, Dane, this is maybe that's what lot of
Speaker 1: wide receivers look like. Crab. That's what we was talking about.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about yesterday with Chris. Chris Baby
Speaker 1: was like, why over like, I don't know about the
Speaker 1: wide receivers because these dvs vs are really good. Do
Speaker 1: you like you liked the wide receivers that you've looked at? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you what there were. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of guys there too. And where where the line is
Speaker 1: going to be drawn? I don't know when you start
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, Quentin Johnston from TCU as
Speaker 1: a guy. I know a lot of people have him
Speaker 1: as one of the top guys. Where do you have
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison from USC you know, I mean there's there's that,
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigbu at Ohio State is another one
Speaker 1: j Hyatt. So all of a sudden, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is funny because I used to know we're talking about this.
Speaker 1: She's like, man, are you sure about these wide receivers?
Speaker 1: And I think she's right about something. I don't think
Speaker 1: you have that that that group where with the CD
Speaker 1: Lamb or the Chase or the guys or the Jefferson's,
Speaker 1: the guys like that. I don't know if it's at
Speaker 1: the top of the board like that. I think she's
Speaker 1: more right about it the more you go back. If
Speaker 1: I had to had to stack that, you would probably
Speaker 1: have some guys ahead of some of those wide receivers.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a bad group. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. And I really like what she's talking about. About.
Speaker 1: You know, where are those guys? Where are they going
Speaker 1: to fit? If you need one? Are you going as
Speaker 1: one of these guys like with Jackson Smith and Jigba,
Speaker 1: Is he a guy that you would probably could have
Speaker 1: a chance at at twenty six. You know that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Because he's dealing with injuries too, you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily know where he's gonna be, right. See, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. What guys, I think the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If I had to make an early just an early
Speaker 1: thought about the Cowboys, I think it's very much sit
Speaker 1: and let the board come to them. I don't see
Speaker 1: anything right now that's making me say, well, I need
Speaker 1: to move up. I mean, you're gonna have potentially a
Speaker 1: lot of picks. Those cop picks are tradeable, so you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you can find a way to manipulate and go forward.
Speaker 1: But until I stack this thing up, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of like looking at it and going, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think there's certain bought, certain pockets I could hit at
Speaker 1: some of these positions. Well, when you talk about the
Speaker 1: receivers like they are deep, um, but it isn't. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a flawed group, like even the three that
Speaker 1: we just threw out there, like they all have warts
Speaker 1: and problems. With him, Jordan Addison, a lot of people
Speaker 1: are gonna feel like he's too small. Yeah, you've got
Speaker 1: you've got the the size issue there on Jackson Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigba you've got the injuries and how healthy he
Speaker 1: can stay. Quintin Johnston, like, I love Quintin Johnston, but
Speaker 1: like that's my that's that would be my number one receiver.
Speaker 1: But even Quentin Johnson a guy where it's like, why
Speaker 1: does it look like at times it's so difficult for
Speaker 1: a six four, two hundred fifteen pound receiver to get
Speaker 1: off press like it has spent at times for him?
Speaker 1: He and and again I love Quentin Johnston, but is
Speaker 1: he you know he does he, you know, get off
Speaker 1: press as well? Does he sink his hips? Is he
Speaker 1: as cleaner route runner as he needs to be? I
Speaker 1: don't see a guy who is necessarily as as clean
Speaker 1: as you'd wanted to be for a guy that's at
Speaker 1: the top of the receiver class. But that's my point
Speaker 1: in general about the receiver is that it's not it's deep.
Speaker 1: There are guys to like, but I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anybody where it's like you were saying earlier, it's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's Ceedee Lamb, or here's Jamar Chase or here's you
Speaker 1: know whoever, Yeah, you raised those eyebrows over there, that's
Speaker 1: the first I looked over. Those eyebrows went straight up
Speaker 1: when he was talking about press and all that. I'm
Speaker 1: super biased because I dB is the first position I
Speaker 1: like actually learned how how it's billion and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I think there's some good press corners, and there are.
Speaker 1: If I had to look at this class right now
Speaker 1: and say there was a strength, it would be in
Speaker 1: the secondary. I think it would be corner right now
Speaker 1: of the draft, because there's five or six guys that
Speaker 1: I really feel comfortable with taking in the first round
Speaker 1: at the moment. I mean, of course, draft grades aren't
Speaker 1: complete by no stretch of the imagination, but they're high
Speaker 1: end guys right now at the cornerback spot wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I think I'm right on with you, guys. I think
Speaker 1: this is a class that has guys that will come
Speaker 1: in and make an impact. But are they top fifteen picks?
Speaker 1: Are they home run picks like you have with the
Speaker 1: Davante Smiths and the Ceedee Lambs and the Jerry Judy's
Speaker 1: and these guys that we've seen previously and that have
Speaker 1: come out and immediately been on a roster and been
Speaker 1: that number one wide receiver. Not necessarily, I think these
Speaker 1: are all guys that are either projects or they've got
Speaker 1: question marks around them. That doesn't mean sitting at twenty
Speaker 1: six you should pass up on a wide receiver. That
Speaker 1: just means you might have some more to look at
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. I'll be struggling to like, obviously, I'm new,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just now starting to watch like more
Speaker 1: college tape and board that clap and gets on my
Speaker 1: nerves out. Yeah, it's just so that such a big
Speaker 1: difference between obviously, like from college to the league. And
Speaker 1: I was just who's ill watching doing that? Last night
Speaker 1: I was watching one of the quarterbacks and he was
Speaker 1: just like he was like faking and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what is I mean, I understand it, but
Speaker 1: Stroud will do that monkers. Okay, okay, if I could.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the corners of the press corners you've
Speaker 1: seen and the Cowboys. That obviously is something that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to talk about here with their own
Speaker 1: situation though, all right, I don't know, but early this
Speaker 1: Keiley Ringo from Georgia, everybody's got him as one of
Speaker 1: the top guys. I'm not gonna lie. I'm scared to
Speaker 1: death of him to be honest with you, Christian Christian
Speaker 1: Gonzalez the corner from Oregon. These are like the top
Speaker 1: two guys that I'm seeing on some of these lists,
Speaker 1: on some top one hundred lists and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I got down to Joey Porter Junior from Penn State
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ah, cornerback out like got one. So
Speaker 1: to me, I mean, that's what that's what's gonna be
Speaker 1: the beauty of how we start this. I felt like
Speaker 1: if you look at some of these initial lists, it's
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have Keiley Ringo at George's my top
Speaker 1: guy as corner. I got some questions I mentioned about
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez from Oregon as well. Oregon's put some kids
Speaker 1: in the league here recently, the playing corner and playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. But I that's that's the that's the big
Speaker 1: mystery is like, Okay, when you sort this out, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the corners in this draft and I wish I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you feel different me. I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like though of the top two, I wasn't enamored
Speaker 1: with everybody else below that, I was a little bit
Speaker 1: more interested. Well, well, the Gonzalez Ringo has kind of
Speaker 1: consensus to for you, Brian, Christian gonzalezesn't get into the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at twenty No, there's no no, no no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. Ringo could see. That's what I'm saying, though
Speaker 1: I I just did not. I was not the thing
Speaker 1: with Gonzalez and Ringo clearly, clearly as I think that
Speaker 1: people have him way too hot. It's all traits of
Speaker 1: ring way too. There were times whenever you look at
Speaker 1: him on film and he's getting beat on simple simple stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's all traits all the way together. I like
Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez a lot. He's my top guy right now.
Speaker 1: He's my top corner because I like the way that
Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism. The only thing with him is
Speaker 1: his strength. I need him to bulk up a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I need him to suppress a little bit.
Speaker 1: You liked him, you liked him the most. No, I
Speaker 1: want you to crucify me. Who I think is is
Speaker 1: exactly this Forbes. There you go. I think that Imanuel Forbes.
Speaker 1: He's just he's interesting to me because he's he's lengthy, right,
Speaker 1: so he kind of on the field. You see him.
Speaker 1: When I saw him, immediately thought like he looked like
Speaker 1: Nashan Rdish, Like I was like, dang, he so long,
Speaker 1: But then when you see how physical he is and
Speaker 1: the way he uses his length, I think he's I
Speaker 1: think he jams well at the line um but he
Speaker 1: just has a nose for the ball. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that is because he's smart. I think
Speaker 1: he reads well. But I was impressed with how much
Speaker 1: he was willing to come down and tackle in the box,
Speaker 1: like he plays at every level. The only thing is
Speaker 1: is that you know he's he's gonna take risk. He's
Speaker 1: gonna take a risk. He's one of those guys. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw some good things in him,
Speaker 1: and I think he could be a sleeper. I think
Speaker 1: he and he's just you know, you play corner, you
Speaker 1: gotta be like I'm that guy, and he has that
Speaker 1: I'm that guy mentality watching him. So I really like,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I think you got. I think
Speaker 1: you got the guy? What you Bobby? He? I mean,
Speaker 1: he he has some digs to him. It's like the
Speaker 1: ball production is really good, the size is good. But
Speaker 1: like you do question, he's over aggressive at times and
Speaker 1: it gets him, it gets him hurt. Yeah, especially against
Speaker 1: a good wide receiver, good out runner. Yeah, bounce him
Speaker 1: back to Ringo. I'm curious, Bryant, do you have any
Speaker 1: concerns at all? Because I thought last year he was
Speaker 1: much better than he was this past year. Ringo was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have any concern at all that you're you're
Speaker 1: putting too much emphasis on on the big plays the
Speaker 1: way everybody seemed to with AJ Terrell when he was
Speaker 1: coming out Ringo and Terrell Terrell better than Ringo, though,
Speaker 1: did you? I guess I just remember Terrell took a
Speaker 1: lot of heat for it. Like I feel like the
Speaker 1: Terrell and Ringo conversations to this point are playing up
Speaker 1: very similar, and obviously they're two different players, So you
Speaker 1: can't just say, well, Terrell succeeded, so Ringo will as well.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, is that something that you would guard
Speaker 1: against a little bit? As am I looking too much?
Speaker 1: I don't watch plays of a young player. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like this guy can really run? Do you feel
Speaker 1: like he can really catch up? Yeah? Do you really? Yep? Oh?
Speaker 1: David Oregon, Auburn, Florida lsu games. I got to watch.
Speaker 1: I think he can run, I said, Auburn, Florida LSU. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: I mean those are three games he should have impressed
Speaker 1: you in. It's not like he's playing up against I
Speaker 1: just to me, I saw separation there when you watched
Speaker 1: him play. Maybe I felt like there was more separation
Speaker 1: in the Oregon game than others. But you know the
Speaker 1: thing about it is, to me, I just felt like
Speaker 1: that when you know she's talking about this guy's six two,
Speaker 1: he's two ten. That's the measurables you're working off right now.
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like when you when you when
Speaker 1: she was talking about Forbes and what I can I
Speaker 1: can live. I can live with the way that he
Speaker 1: plays because I kind of feel like, though you're gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna make more plays, he's gonna he's gonna defend
Speaker 1: more past. Yeah, there's a there's a looseness to his game,
Speaker 1: and maybe he comes off plays and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I just feel like a guy that reads really quick,
Speaker 1: really reacts well. He'll undercut some routes. He's got a
Speaker 1: nose for the balls. She said that exactly right. He's
Speaker 1: got ball skills. I mean he puts himself in a
Speaker 1: lot more positions to make plays. Plus he throws his
Speaker 1: body around in there. That's when I'm watching nat on tape.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm you know me, the guy that carries,
Speaker 1: the guy that routes across the field, stuff like that,
Speaker 1: That's what I see. Yeah, he's six foot, he's one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pounds. He looks real thin on tape.
Speaker 1: He does, he does, he looks. But and the guy
Speaker 1: makes a ton of plays. He plays with an edge.
Speaker 1: I like that about the kid, I really really do.
Speaker 1: And the thing about Ringo, one of the knocks that
Speaker 1: I had is one he doesn't travel. He's stuck on
Speaker 1: one side of the one side of the formation. That's
Speaker 1: not a terrible knock, but mine is he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to come down and hit you in the run defense.
Speaker 1: He he doesn't want to come downhill. He's more of
Speaker 1: a finesse guy. He's got the speed. I agree with Bobby.
Speaker 1: I think he can run. I think he can run
Speaker 1: with anybody. But is he my number one guy? I
Speaker 1: would actually put Gonzalez above him because everything you just
Speaker 1: said about Emmanuel Forbes, I think about Gonzalez. I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy. He's sticky, he stays on top of guys,
Speaker 1: the top of their routes. He breaks to the ball.
Speaker 1: He's got a good read both in zone and in press.
Speaker 1: He's not the strongest guy in the fold, but he's
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna come up and put hands on you
Speaker 1: if you need to. So I like this. We've got
Speaker 1: some corner talk early on. How that's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of the positions. I think this Cowboys team is going
Speaker 1: to talk about it. That's that's gonna be a line.
Speaker 1: By the way, about all these cornerbacks that we've said
Speaker 1: about A couple of these guys aren't is they're skinny.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of skinny. Is not one of those
Speaker 1: guys he's no, no, no, no. Ringos built pretty well.
Speaker 1: But I mean like Gonzalez, like Witherspoon, Smith, like, they're all,
Speaker 1: like I think, pretty lanky. Can I ask you, is
Speaker 1: that do you guys think that's maybe like a trend now?
Speaker 1: Like a because I feel like, looking at this jet,
Speaker 1: like you said, I was looking at them, I was like,
Speaker 1: why are so many of these guys? I know that
Speaker 1: a lot of players are trying to stay more lean now,
Speaker 1: but I was just I was really thrown off, Well,
Speaker 1: how many guys were slim looking for corner I was like,
Speaker 1: how big was Sauce Gardener last year? He was Sauce
Speaker 1: was six three and what was he like one five
Speaker 1: or something? Maybe some guys that were that were thought
Speaker 1: about initially as being wide receivers all of a sudden, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all they would think about, Okay, they're gonna play at
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tolling thin and then you know you can't
Speaker 1: play receivers, so now you they move them over to corner.
Speaker 1: Ryan said, you don't have hands, go play corner. I
Speaker 1: feel like so many of them on long arms and yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a new thing that's to me, a thing
Speaker 1: that I feel like I haven't seen a lot lately.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was funny you brought up Nashan Right.
Speaker 1: His brothers in this draft, Ray Sean Right, who was
Speaker 1: the star of the Last Chance You He was at
Speaker 1: Laney College and then followed Nashan to Oregon State. He's
Speaker 1: also in this draft class a little bit further down
Speaker 1: than the guys were talking about here, but I thought
Speaker 1: i'd throw that out there for Nishan. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take our first break when we come back. It's the
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Speaker 1: and Draft fans. It's time now for some Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty Twitter on Twitter. The sounder, of course coming
Speaker 1: from Chris Beam. This is every year. How long has
Speaker 1: this has been a tradition? Oh geez, we were yeah,
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, Yeah, weak in the d K Hill days,
Speaker 1: back in the d K Hill days. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: something we kind of created the sink to be that
Speaker 1: there was Twitter. Well, we how old do you think
Speaker 1: they are? It's good about eleven years. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we asked the question every week and we'll answer
Speaker 1: all the fan questions based off of the Twitter response.
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep a running total of how many
Speaker 1: we get to this year. We're gonna try to promise.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get five to day. I promise I
Speaker 1: won't talk along. It's not just your like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty. You gotta Brian, It's all you. This is
Speaker 1: Twitter on the Brian all right. Thomas Davis asked what
Speaker 1: can we do to help the quarterback succeed? That should
Speaker 1: be the first priority this offseason for the Cowboys front
Speaker 1: office is helping Dak press guy. Brian, We'll start with you.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like though you need to need
Speaker 1: to evaluate really where you're at it. Wide receiver, Do
Speaker 1: you feel like you've got enough weapons there? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you've got you know, to me, you look
Speaker 1: at what's going on with the coordinator as well, it
Speaker 1: might be time to move on. I know that's another
Speaker 1: show another day and all that, but you know you're
Speaker 1: in a process right now with a coordinator's interviewing for
Speaker 1: another job. But you know, maybe you're on a situation.
Speaker 1: I think that maybe some things have kind of run
Speaker 1: their course here with this coordinator, and so to me,
Speaker 1: I can't move on from the quarterback. So I got
Speaker 1: to find ways to help him with whether it's coaching
Speaker 1: or whether it's the skill on the offense. And so
Speaker 1: you know, you look at the wide receiver, You've got
Speaker 1: to figure out the running back situation. The offensive lines
Speaker 1: situation with Tyrann Smith. There's a lot of questions that
Speaker 1: still need to be answered, but I think the number
Speaker 1: one thing is to figure out what's going on with
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator. Yeah, if you're talking specifically related to
Speaker 1: since this is the draft, show like what in the
Speaker 1: draft can help your quarterback? Like, like what is most
Speaker 1: can help this quarterback? Okay, well what are things you
Speaker 1: can help You can help protect him, you can you know,
Speaker 1: help in the running game, and try and just say
Speaker 1: that No, I'm just saying, I'm saying. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: there are these different ways that you can do it
Speaker 1: to help within the draft. And so for me, that
Speaker 1: would be the receiver is the biggest thing is that
Speaker 1: you got to make sure. Look, there's gonna be an
Speaker 1: evaluation period of and I don't think they're ready to
Speaker 1: give up on him or anything, but obviously there's an
Speaker 1: evaluation period with Jaylen Tolbert that even if they believe
Speaker 1: in him, it's a big jump to say he's going
Speaker 1: from game day inactive to regular contributor next year. There's
Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be a jump that aggressive.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to look at that You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to look at where Michael Gallop's at if okay,
Speaker 1: is this our legitimate number two is Noah brown Back.
Speaker 1: So with all those questions that are up there, I
Speaker 1: would like, if you're gonna ask me today, like what's
Speaker 1: the odds on favorite of what position they take in
Speaker 1: the first round? I say receiver. That would be my
Speaker 1: guess right now, And I think it's just that would
Speaker 1: be the biggest way to help your quarterback or NW
Speaker 1: If you go, how can I help my quarterback? Go
Speaker 1: get me Jordan Addison, go get me Jackson Smith and
Speaker 1: Jake But go get me somebody like that. Well, they
Speaker 1: could be in a situation too real quick. I should
Speaker 1: where they The one thing that they've done well as
Speaker 1: draft first round offensive lineman, especially if you're picking at
Speaker 1: twenty six, knocked that out of the park. If you know,
Speaker 1: you get things figure out with Tyron Smith and all that,
Speaker 1: maybe the offensive line would be a big help. Not
Speaker 1: until your point, Bobby, in regard to the wide receiver thing,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the fact that like we don't
Speaker 1: know how many of these receivers take you over the
Speaker 1: top or can just come in and be a contributor,
Speaker 1: right away, So you gotta might have to go early
Speaker 1: to get a guy that can come in and be
Speaker 1: a difference maker right away. That's going to be the
Speaker 1: biggest drawback to a wide receiver is if you don't
Speaker 1: go up and get one early. Is everybody going to
Speaker 1: look at this and say, is it Jaylen Tilbert again?
Speaker 1: Because Jaylen Tilbert was expected to come in and play
Speaker 1: snaps and instead he wasn't even on the active roster
Speaker 1: throughout the Oh yeah, I don't want it to be
Speaker 1: a revision of history. I was all for taking where
Speaker 1: they took Sam Williams. I wanted them to take Jaylen Tulbert,
Speaker 1: so I was. I was a big fan. I'm right
Speaker 1: there with out the first year, timed doubt. Now you've
Speaker 1: brought up offensive lineman too, kind of throwing up protection
Speaker 1: into that conversation you mentioned there's a lot of tackles,
Speaker 1: not a lot of interior guys. With Tyler Smith Tyrant Smith.
Speaker 1: Of course, we don't know what Tyrn's gonna do. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna retire, is he's gonna be back, Still up
Speaker 1: in the air, but where do you go with drafting
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? You go interior, even though there might
Speaker 1: not be as many top heavy guys in this draft.
Speaker 1: I think that you you know, they've proven that they
Speaker 1: could take a guy and feel like they know they're
Speaker 1: interested if he could play tackle, they feel like he
Speaker 1: could play guard. I don't. It's like it's like these
Speaker 1: coaches that say, hey, when Dan Quinn, if he leaves,
Speaker 1: oh well, you don't want to have to go get
Speaker 1: a three four defensive coordinator. These teams are multiple, the
Speaker 1: way they play fronts. You got personnel you can do
Speaker 1: this with. You find a guy, you plug and play.
Speaker 1: They did it with Tyler Smith. They could do it
Speaker 1: with one of these other guys to kind of figure
Speaker 1: things out. I'll say this. Throw another thing in there
Speaker 1: too that I mentioned the running back situation. I would
Speaker 1: not be opposed to taking a running back at twenty six,
Speaker 1: especially if you're I wouldn't got there. Well it's not,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I'm not a person. A lot
Speaker 1: of twitter question does it help the quarterback? Does it
Speaker 1: help the absolutely? Do we see do we see what?
Speaker 1: Did we see what Pollard did for Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: this thing he needed a whole here. Yeah, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So to me, just throw that in there's
Speaker 1: another possibility, especially if they move on from Zeke and
Speaker 1: Tony and you need something to go from that. Well,
Speaker 1: s's y'all talking about interior? Uh do since we're talking
Speaker 1: about it, do you are we talking about bringing back
Speaker 1: McGovern because I think that could have a back to
Speaker 1: could play a factor on if you do go into
Speaker 1: your this you would or you wouldn't. You said no
Speaker 1: me personally, I probably wouldn't because I would. I would
Speaker 1: ride with I would ride with Tyrn Smith at left tackle.
Speaker 1: I'd put him back at left tackle and put Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith at left guard. I would do just too. But
Speaker 1: just like they're bringing back McGovern because he could play
Speaker 1: anywhere Tyler, they're not going to spend money on him
Speaker 1: when they got FARNI at Tyler look so much more
Speaker 1: comfortable to me at tackle though he did. That's that's
Speaker 1: another thing is that I felt like he really honed
Speaker 1: in on that tackle, spy, and you could see him
Speaker 1: getting better through the year. Towards the end of the year,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, yeah, that's what he are you
Speaker 1: gonna move Tyron over though, back to right tackle or
Speaker 1: where I mean Terren Steel? Where does he go get
Speaker 1: that equation because Tyron wasn't nearly as comfortable at right
Speaker 1: tackle as he would have been at left tackle Tyler
Speaker 1: had his Wartz. I don't know that twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith is a better left tackle than twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three Tyler Smith. I don't know that. Okay, then if
Speaker 1: that's the case, then you move on from you move
Speaker 1: on from or you move on from Tyron Smith, because
Speaker 1: you're gonna take this seventeen million dollars and go do
Speaker 1: something else. I'm just saying that if you don't want
Speaker 1: to draft an interior, if you don't want to draft
Speaker 1: on this team has proven if they draft offensive line
Speaker 1: in the first round, it usually works out very well
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. Absolutely, So would you look at a
Speaker 1: interior guy that could play right guard and left guard? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Look how much you like I wanted to replace him
Speaker 1: without or with Tyler Linderbaum last year, but they kept
Speaker 1: two centers on the Future's List, right, So I wondered
Speaker 1: that I think that. I mean, you know, we talked
Speaker 1: about Beyadist not having a whole bunch of competition behind
Speaker 1: him or people behind him. I think they get somebody
Speaker 1: they look into. How did you think McGovern played at
Speaker 1: center at the end of the year. No, he was
Speaker 1: better regard. Uh, let's this is why we only get
Speaker 1: through one or two questions. Phenomenal. Yeah, brought us was
Speaker 1: looking at me. He's like, you just asked the second question.
Speaker 1: We'll start with ash on this one. Maurice asked what
Speaker 1: type of wide receiver would you want to make the
Speaker 1: best fit at number two? If you're looking at wide
Speaker 1: receivers in this draft, the best compliment to Seedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: what type of wide receiver would it be? Tater tots
Speaker 1: Um Right now, I feel like you are lacking a guy,
Speaker 1: a Cole Beasley type guy, like an underneath guy that
Speaker 1: can that can win on his own, but it is
Speaker 1: kind of shifty and can play on the Yes, I
Speaker 1: feel like Deck really has thrived when he's had a
Speaker 1: speedy slot guy. I think every team needs one and
Speaker 1: um in it. And if that slot has the ability
Speaker 1: to take the top off also, I think that could
Speaker 1: be beneficial. But I would like a guy that can
Speaker 1: take care of the intermediate stuff but has some maybe
Speaker 1: some yak ability to take it to the house. And
Speaker 1: I think Bobby I agree with you, by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be all in favor that I don't know that
Speaker 1: this coaching staff would be like if we're just talking
Speaker 1: about slot specific type of players, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I think it has to be somebody with flexibility for them, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they'd be thrilled with like you know,
Speaker 1: Downs or somebody like that. To me, where I think
Speaker 1: like Downs would like play in the slot here. And
Speaker 1: then when you look at the Josh Downs from North Carolina, Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: Josh Downs, North Carolina. When when you so to me,
Speaker 1: I mean clean route runner. But but like I mean
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Jordan Addison, who's a
Speaker 1: really good route runner, I think that that's again you're
Speaker 1: talking about like eyes, Is he too small for them?
Speaker 1: Do they want somebody that's a little more physically built.
Speaker 1: The two things I feel like they missed at times
Speaker 1: this year were elite route runners who can get open.
Speaker 1: And then, as Brian talked about a lot during this year,
Speaker 1: guys who attacked the football. Yeah, like there were times
Speaker 1: that they just didn't have guys that attacked football. And
Speaker 1: he looked at the two guys that are probably at
Speaker 1: the top of the draft in terms of the receivers,
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison at USC Quentintin Johnston at TCU. Like those
Speaker 1: guys both addressed that Jordan Addison will get open. Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnson I feel like I'll attack the ball. And so
Speaker 1: for me, that's those two types of guys would be
Speaker 1: interesting to me. I just don't know how much your
Speaker 1: big physical receivers that you continue to draft or helping
Speaker 1: you at this point. Like I understand now we're into
Speaker 1: size and all that stuff and whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: but I think you have to have a good variation
Speaker 1: of it. You have to have options. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: can't be the same build on is, but who I
Speaker 1: don't think they have anybody, but I don't think they've
Speaker 1: had anybody built like Quentin Johnston. No, I wasn't talking
Speaker 1: about Quinn. I'm just talking about in general. You know
Speaker 1: you were talking about, are you right? That's probably the
Speaker 1: last But even Quentin Quentin's even bigger him. I feel
Speaker 1: like and and and different. Quentin Quentin is a Quentin
Speaker 1: is an ex receiver, like like it's straightforward like definition
Speaker 1: of it. And so that I mean, when you talk
Speaker 1: about that game against San Francisco, when you're talking about
Speaker 1: all this short and intermediate area stuff like that, Like
Speaker 1: he wouldn't like you you have fight there with Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnson and those sorts of passing games, like I feel
Speaker 1: like he would be able to take advantage of the
Speaker 1: you know, all right, you're just running a curl or
Speaker 1: whatever else where there's not gonna be a whole lot
Speaker 1: of opportunity to separate and just have five yards of
Speaker 1: separation and a wide open hit. Like Quentin Johnson's a
Speaker 1: guy that Okay, he's covered, but I feel like he's
Speaker 1: gonna fight through the contact, He's gonna finish the catch.
Speaker 1: And so those are the types of guys that I
Speaker 1: think could absolutely help them. Yeah, they need a home
Speaker 1: run hitter. And Jalen Hyatt, if you watch him at
Speaker 1: tennis set, that's a home run hitter, right, Yes, he is.
Speaker 1: Every play he makes is big, and that quarterback did
Speaker 1: a good job of getting him the ball. And I
Speaker 1: know that team snaps the ball every nineteen seconds, but
Speaker 1: you watch a guy like him, and yeah, you need
Speaker 1: somebody that's a home run hitter in this offense, you know,
Speaker 1: and I should to your point. Yeah, the thing about
Speaker 1: the slot and all that makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: You know, that's why. I was thinking that maybe the
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton stuff like that would show that. But
Speaker 1: Bobby's right, this coaching staff is not interested. The head
Speaker 1: coach is not interested in the smaller guys. He's just
Speaker 1: not interested in it. He's always talked about the interchangeability
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers of having to play both ways.
Speaker 1: Are they pigeonholing themselves in that regard? If by wanting
Speaker 1: to be versatile, are they actually limiting the way that
Speaker 1: their offense can run by picking up some of these
Speaker 1: dynamic playmakers. You know, maybe maybe at times, But I
Speaker 1: mean I also I would see the argument from their side,
Speaker 1: which is like, we want the flexibility to know, like
Speaker 1: like we don't want to just they would they would
Speaker 1: view it as like we're being pigeonholed on offense in
Speaker 1: terms of we're saying this guy can only play here. Okay,
Speaker 1: well what can I get out of that? What kind
Speaker 1: of things can I do with the formation if this
Speaker 1: guy has to play here? And so I understand their
Speaker 1: perspective on it, but yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world to maybe have a
Speaker 1: bring in a you know, if you've got a Danny
Speaker 1: Amon Doler or somebody like that, like one of these
Speaker 1: guys who historically has been a smaller slot receiver who
Speaker 1: can just get open. I'm fine having one of those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the question was like, what can
Speaker 1: you do to help your quarterback out? Or how about
Speaker 1: the office? The first question, right, A slot, A slot,
Speaker 1: that is that's their job, and that's what they were.
Speaker 1: It might have been a little bit of thought process
Speaker 1: on the order I questions. You try, you try there?
Speaker 1: Who who was who was the biggest assist to Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott his rookie here as a pass catcher? Cole Beasley?
Speaker 1: H Cole Beasley was was was his his safety valve
Speaker 1: more than even Jason Witton. And so you know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to having a guy like that, I mean, Colin,
Speaker 1: especially if you move on from Dalton just about the same.
Speaker 1: You can get that from No no, no, But I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about security blanket throw too. Wow, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought you could possibly give from t Y. But
Speaker 1: to y'all's point, it's not something, didn't it. It seems
Speaker 1: like they want to Yeah, And I mean Ty is
Speaker 1: a little different, I think because Ty was hopefully gonna
Speaker 1: like stretch the field, and you saw him do it
Speaker 1: against Philly, like like that big play there and everything
Speaker 1: I got. But I mean also I can remember t
Speaker 1: why was was on the street and wise, you know,
Speaker 1: mid thirties. Almost like there's gonna be limitations on that now,
Speaker 1: whether or not he wants to come back to he said,
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons he didn't sign was he
Speaker 1: wanted to watch his kids play football and his kids
Speaker 1: play sports and grow up a little bit. So is
Speaker 1: he gonna be willing to come back and go through
Speaker 1: an entire training camp, an entire regular season. Got to
Speaker 1: keep that in mind too, all right. Third question, this
Speaker 1: probably the last one we're gonna get to. Carly asked,
Speaker 1: with the development of Bland and Mukuamo at corner, potentially,
Speaker 1: is it as big of a need for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: as it first felt whenever Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: went down. Bobby, I'll start with you, yes, see yes,
Speaker 1: And look, I mean, like I like the versatility that
Speaker 1: you see from Mukuamo and the way that he played
Speaker 1: in the slot those two weeks. That's great, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you need I mean, it feels like just yesterday that
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs got here. But we're talking about like now
Speaker 1: he's eligible for a contract extension. We're entering the last
Speaker 1: year of his deal. You've got Digs there, Brown likely gone.
Speaker 1: Lewis is entering the last year of his deal. I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to approach that. He's I
Speaker 1: think he's do five six million coming up this year.
Speaker 1: You know, Bland was good, but you've got you've got
Speaker 1: questions behind there, behind durn Bland. You know, Kelvin, Joseph
Speaker 1: and Sean right to this point have not been the
Speaker 1: players that they wanted them to be. I understand both
Speaker 1: of them have contributed on special teams. That's great, but
Speaker 1: you didn't pick corners in the second or third round
Speaker 1: just to be special teamers. And so yeah, I think
Speaker 1: corner is still especially in a three corner league, and
Speaker 1: you've got two legitimate ones right now. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think a third corners absolutely still a need. I'm
Speaker 1: looking for a guy like Cam Smith from South Carolina,
Speaker 1: who I think he could play the slot. I think
Speaker 1: he could play outside. I think he's got great movement,
Speaker 1: the ball skills, things like that. He's a he's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a blockdown tackler. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a guy you wish you'd wrap up a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he will come forward, he will make plays,
Speaker 1: He creates turnovers, The footwork, the awareness, they make up
Speaker 1: for any other deficiency that this kid might have. I'm
Speaker 1: looking for somebody that could play I think both spots,
Speaker 1: you know, much like what you got with Bland, you know,
Speaker 1: because what's going to happen is these guys get hurt
Speaker 1: and now somebody has to go play another position. I'm
Speaker 1: just still want to name out there a guy like
Speaker 1: Cam Smith from South Carolina. I think he'd be a
Speaker 1: good fit for that type of guy that can do
Speaker 1: both things. Now, agree's still a need, still a need.
Speaker 1: We saw they were picking up people off the street.
Speaker 1: It's like because depth is such an issue, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I go for it. Get more, get more corners also too,
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're being real, I mean it affected
Speaker 1: your special teams play as well, because you had to
Speaker 1: pull those corners from you know, punt team to come
Speaker 1: up and play for you. So I it's a domino effect. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Once you move one guy around, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: move a couple guys around. I like the idea, Brian,
Speaker 1: they're having somebody versatile. You don't have that guy. Maybe
Speaker 1: you do in Anthony Brown that could play inside. Well,
Speaker 1: it showed they drafted possibly Bland. They showed Bland could
Speaker 1: play inside or outside. I'd just give me the flexibility
Speaker 1: to have both positions. Kind of covered Bland, kind of
Speaker 1: covered you up for the Kelvin Joseph mistake right now.
Speaker 1: On this team specifically, we would even Joseph was he's
Speaker 1: not working out, we would be giving him so much credit.
Speaker 1: If if Kelvin Joseph was Bland, if if, if, if
Speaker 1: Joseph played like Bland, we would be so happy about
Speaker 1: the And they still deserve a ton of credit for
Speaker 1: getting Bland in the fifth round like they did. It
Speaker 1: was an excellent jobs missed on him. A lot of
Speaker 1: teams missed on a sick All right, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna fit a fourth one in here. One word answer here.
Speaker 1: Would you consider be Jean Robinson, the running back from Texas,
Speaker 1: if he falls to pick number twenty six, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: consider it. I'd run the card up there, okay at
Speaker 1: twenty wow, so you're you're hard running anyway. Twenty six
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's running a card running Oh yeah, turn
Speaker 1: in the car. Okay, then Yester, I'll say, I'll say
Speaker 1: yes for Bijean, but nobody else, nobody running back way.
Speaker 1: I think the value of the player, and especially if
Speaker 1: you move on from Zeke and pother, you're you got
Speaker 1: a huge hole at running back. And we talked about
Speaker 1: how to help the quarterback. Bijean Robinson is, regardless of
Speaker 1: the position, is one of the best players I've seen
Speaker 1: in this strap. Drafting or running back in the first
Speaker 1: round is the only position any longer where you can
Speaker 1: get the value that matches the contract, where you could
Speaker 1: get production that matches a top tier player, and still
Speaker 1: you're locked in a five years of Okay, I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: paying a top tier running back this amount when in
Speaker 1: reality they may get close to sixteen million once they
Speaker 1: at the open market. Not quarterback. I just don't think
Speaker 1: you're going to get the same level. Like running backs
Speaker 1: deteriorate by the time the second contract, quarterbacks usually elevate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. All right, we got
Speaker 1: four done. Thomas Davis, Maurice Carly Michael, thank you for
Speaker 1: your questions. We will answer some more tomorrow on More
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Speaker 1: Miller Lite. Episode one of the twenty twenty three draft process.
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, Bobby Belt, Brian brought us Ayesha Morrison. I'm
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's all right, let's get into pet cats. This
Speaker 1: is so much fun. Yet to explain what the pet
Speaker 1: cat is. So, the pet cat is somebody that's maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar. They don't have to be.
Speaker 1: You can pick a pet cat in the first round.
Speaker 1: It's just the guy you like you're gonna stand on
Speaker 1: the table for. And it doesn't have to be all
Speaker 1: year long. You can leave your pet cat. You can
Speaker 1: leave it straight, you can let it, let it wander
Speaker 1: a little bit. But if you want to bring it back,
Speaker 1: that's always there too. You got it. This is your
Speaker 1: early early pet cats. So, Brian, what's you got? Cody
Speaker 1: Mock He's a six five, three hundred and six pound
Speaker 1: tackle from North Dakota State. Where's number seventy and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. He's a starting left tackle for the Bisons.
Speaker 1: This guy is an outstanding athlete. The way he moves,
Speaker 1: the ease that he plays with. You could pull him
Speaker 1: in space, you can use him on the backside with cutoffs.
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things with him. He
Speaker 1: keeps sustain He didn't let his guys off the block.
Speaker 1: There's several players, but you see him just driving his
Speaker 1: man into the ground. And I love that about this kid.
Speaker 1: Plays that are really fine program. This team lives in
Speaker 1: Dallas every year, actually out here in Frisco playing in
Speaker 1: national championship games. I think that he gets away from
Speaker 1: the line no problem. In the past protection side, you
Speaker 1: could strike you with your hands and stuff. I never
Speaker 1: see this guy getting walked back. I mentioned he's six five,
Speaker 1: he's three oh six. I would consider taking this guy
Speaker 1: and moving in the center, is what I would do,
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about these teams that have that ability.
Speaker 1: We've we've seen like the Philadelphia Eagle to their teams Kansas. See,
Speaker 1: if you have an athletic center, you happened here with
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. You have a guy that's an athletic center,
Speaker 1: you can cut your defense in half. You can also
Speaker 1: pull him outside. You can actually maybe have a screen
Speaker 1: package with his team hasn't had since Travis Frederick was here.
Speaker 1: But just I think, you know, he's got that kind
Speaker 1: of frame where he's a little long. It might be
Speaker 1: trouble adding bulk, but I really do like this kid
Speaker 1: from a North Dakota state. His name's Cody Mock's a's a.
Speaker 1: He's a tackle that I think can maybe play as
Speaker 1: a center. He's gonna be a Senior Bowl guy too,
Speaker 1: So he did accept. Hopefully they're working there a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe getting back and forth for some practice film there.
Speaker 1: Very nice Bobby who got I have and this is
Speaker 1: a I thought this one was going to be a
Speaker 1: little bit more low key, and then I just saw
Speaker 1: mel Kiper stuck him in the first round. Today USC's
Speaker 1: two Ley Tulei Pilop. Yes, I'm stunned Kiper hasn't been
Speaker 1: the first round. I'm kind of stunned too. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: thought it was like a second running one or something
Speaker 1: like that. But to be fair, we all thought he
Speaker 1: was nuts when he projected Tyler Smith with his very
Speaker 1: first mock draft of the cow last year but this
Speaker 1: is a guy who I was talking to Brian before
Speaker 1: the show. He reminds me of a little bit of
Speaker 1: Zach Allen from Boston College from a few years back,
Speaker 1: who finally has started to click for the Cardinals this year.
Speaker 1: But think maybe also like some other guys that you
Speaker 1: could say were similar, Trey Flowers, maybe not similar in
Speaker 1: in that with with epinessa aj epinessa who ended up
Speaker 1: with the bills not the same length, like like, it's
Speaker 1: not that kind of a guy. And he's he's bulkier,
Speaker 1: but in terms of powerful players, strong hands, he can
Speaker 1: play insider outside, he stands up sometimes at like six
Speaker 1: four two ninety and rush is standing up. And so
Speaker 1: he's a guy who I think, you know, the testing
Speaker 1: isn't going to be crazy with him, but plays with
Speaker 1: a lot of power, good initial burst. You know. I
Speaker 1: think he's a a high IQ rusher, and you know,
Speaker 1: for you know this Dallas team that likes to play
Speaker 1: guys that can play inside outside, four three, three four,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. I think Twi Pelotto could
Speaker 1: do that. So I like him a lot. I watched
Speaker 1: his cotton bolt again against Dulane. He's a fun player.
Speaker 1: He flies around and that was in a bowl game too. Now,
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's guys that are playing and that
Speaker 1: are having some fun that with him off of that
Speaker 1: second level, I really like it. You want me to
Speaker 1: go and actually want to go next? Na Ima, go
Speaker 1: for it, all right? So my cat, My cat is
Speaker 1: a big cat. This is a this is a chunky cat.
Speaker 1: But I love him though. All right. So Christian Mahogany
Speaker 1: from Boston College, UM Interior, he's in. He's a left guard.
Speaker 1: Um play really well. Left guard. Heat to me is
Speaker 1: what I thought if you kept Tyler ed guard, what
Speaker 1: he would have become. Um, he's just nasty off the line,
Speaker 1: vicious hands can get to the second level. He finishes well.
Speaker 1: I like his feet, but his anchor is serious, like
Speaker 1: if you put it, if you people put their hands
Speaker 1: on him, he puts his hand on you. He's probably
Speaker 1: gonna have you stuck there. But he plays with a
Speaker 1: lot of power. Um. I was impressed with him. If
Speaker 1: you watch him in the Clemson game, he put those
Speaker 1: dudes in a seatbelt and you already know that Clemson
Speaker 1: d line is nothing to deal It's hard to deal with.
Speaker 1: But I really look at him and I like the
Speaker 1: fact that he has flexibility at the right guard position
Speaker 1: as well. He played right guards junior year, sophomore year,
Speaker 1: I believe, and then he actually played pretty well there.
Speaker 1: But then they moved him to left guard because what's
Speaker 1: the gentleman's name, Zion Johnson. Yeah, Zion Johnson left So
Speaker 1: then they moved them to left guard, and he succeeded there.
Speaker 1: So when you look at kind of what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: we talked about, it you want to kind of keep
Speaker 1: Tyler at left tack or why not if you have
Speaker 1: a guy you can bring in that can play that
Speaker 1: play that left guard at that level. Those combo blocks
Speaker 1: with him and Tyler Jesus, then because they're both they
Speaker 1: both have that you know, that attack like I'm gonna finish,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my hands on you. And then again
Speaker 1: we've seen injuries happen. You got a guy that you
Speaker 1: can continue to keep working and maybe if you have
Speaker 1: something happened at right guard, you can slide them there.
Speaker 1: That versatility I think is gonna get some people's attention.
Speaker 1: He's kind of a new the radar, but I really
Speaker 1: like him and I've been paying attention to him. Very nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it, Bobby, You may have to help me
Speaker 1: with his first name. Is it Demarvian Overshow. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: goes by just D. It's D from Texas linebacker six
Speaker 1: four two twenty five. You would think he'd play off
Speaker 1: the edge he played downhill, No, sir, he's a coverage linebacker.
Speaker 1: He used to play corner back in the day through
Speaker 1: high school, early days of college, played kind of that
Speaker 1: that jay Ron Curse type of safety role if he
Speaker 1: was in there. He has experienced playing that defensive back position,
Speaker 1: and you could see it in his footwork. Covers tight
Speaker 1: ends well. He does come down and hit. His athleticism,
Speaker 1: his speed are all there. He's got great length, he
Speaker 1: can bat down passes. He can kind of stick with
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the routes. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot for a guy that may not be He's
Speaker 1: not a first round guy, not a second round guy.
Speaker 1: But you talk about third round, top one hundred, back
Speaker 1: end guy. You're picking at ninety, so you're gonna have
Speaker 1: some back end third round guys. He's a value pick
Speaker 1: for me that I think would be really really fun
Speaker 1: because he's the project, not a great tackler, not gonna
Speaker 1: come up and just wreck you great. Great in coverage,
Speaker 1: not as great and run defense either. Those are things
Speaker 1: that I think are teachable though. And if you can
Speaker 1: maybe pick him up with at that ninety spot, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have some success. Maybe somebody, have you
Speaker 1: seen him, Bobby, I haven't studied him yet, but just
Speaker 1: watching him because he steadily progressed. He was he was
Speaker 1: a big time. He was a big recruit for them
Speaker 1: when he got to Texas, but he steadily progressed. The
Speaker 1: instincts look better each year he's but I mean he
Speaker 1: is a very flexible like you know that. That's a
Speaker 1: guy who they felt comfortable like, Okay, we can blitz him.
Speaker 1: We can play him a linebacker, we can pla him
Speaker 1: at safety like he He's somebody who I think they
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, he can impact things on defense on
Speaker 1: all three levels if you want him to. And it
Speaker 1: is to Marvian just just for I call him d
Speaker 1: D what everybody what everybody else calls him. I'm putting
Speaker 1: D right here in quotations just to make sure, just
Speaker 1: to make sure. But I want to make sure and
Speaker 1: get it right so whenever they pick him in round three,
Speaker 1: I can make sure and say it the right way.
Speaker 1: Got to I mentioned my, my, my, my guy's size.
Speaker 1: He's sixty three, three hundred and eighteen pounds. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. That's why I said he's hard
Speaker 1: to move interior now honestly, but I will say, uh, creeping.
Speaker 1: I was creeping on reading and stuff and his his weight, Lulu,
Speaker 1: his weight. We call it studying, you gotta, I call
Speaker 1: it creeping, man, But yeah, I uh. What's one thing
Speaker 1: about him though, Like I like that he's big and
Speaker 1: he's heavy. But that's something that sounds like could be
Speaker 1: a not a con but something that people are iffy
Speaker 1: about about is he he has to stay He needs
Speaker 1: to stay at a good size, like he can get
Speaker 1: he can get heavier at times, so whoever is coaching
Speaker 1: him and has to keep him, you know, grounded. So
Speaker 1: it's absolutely Yeah, it sounds like he's weight confluctuate and
Speaker 1: he can it's hard out here, but now sometimes but
Speaker 1: sometimes he can get on the heavier side. So I
Speaker 1: think that's just something to keep an eye on. But
Speaker 1: and that can affect his movie minute time. So that's
Speaker 1: the only thing about him that punch is disgusting. His
Speaker 1: first punch is disrespect. I'm gonna watch him today. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go and watch him a little bit. I watch
Speaker 1: your North North Dakota State it. Yeah, that's good about
Speaker 1: the pet Cats man, because what happens is these guys
Speaker 1: end up playing in the league and then everybody will
Speaker 1: tweet at you, like, hey, your guys just killing these
Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. So yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: you are you are has some good line here. You're
Speaker 1: single handedly responsible for anybody knowing who George Karloftus is.
Speaker 1: For instance, I'm Carlos. Yeah that is that? Is that true?
Speaker 1: Is that a drop yet? Do we have that yet?
Speaker 1: It probably don't happen. We need we need to make
Speaker 1: it happen. I'll pull it. I'm gonna send it to you.
Speaker 1: Let's make it work. That was so fun and sky More.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's every time I look at him, I
Speaker 1: think at Jeff Kathman in that ugly number twenty four jers.
Speaker 1: It looks awful awful. All right. So that's our first
Speaker 1: episode of the Draft show here in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Here's the good thing about the way we've scheduled this.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait very long for the second one.
Speaker 1: We're going back to back days. We will be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow eleven am Central time. We'll get that thing posted
Speaker 1: as well. I want you to if you're a draft
Speaker 1: fan out there and you're listening, send us your pet cats.
Speaker 1: Put it on the record, start sending it to a tag,
Speaker 1: Bobby Tag, Brian Tag, Aisha Tag, myself. Give us your
Speaker 1: pet cats. I want to know where you're standing with
Speaker 1: some of these guys, because it is fun to just
Speaker 1: kind of put a name on there and ride with
Speaker 1: him for as long as you possibly can. But it
Speaker 1: should be a fun draft process. I'm excited to be
Speaker 1: back with you guys, to welcome Aisha to the table.
Speaker 1: This is going to be an exciting next couple months.
Speaker 1: Guys looking forward to it. Ready to go. That does
Speaker 1: it for us for Bobby Belt, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison,
Speaker 1: and Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from
Speaker 1: the Draft show. We'll see you tomorrow. This has been
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