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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and traft analysis from deep

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Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 1: das Cowboys Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. Today

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Speaker 1: is Wednesday, January twenty five, twenty twenty three. We are

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Speaker 1: ninety two days away from the twenty twenty three NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft Kansas City, Missouri. As we are back on the

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Speaker 1: Draft Show presented by Miller Lite here from the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. And ladies and gentlemen, we've got some work

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Speaker 1: to do. How about that? How about that? We've got

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Speaker 1: some work to do. Brian brought us Bobby belt Ayisha

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Speaker 1: Morrison making her Draft show debut. Very warm, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the squad. I'm Kyle Omens. How are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you said. Ninety two days right too?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll get there eventually. Next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: it'll be well, it'll be forty two days until the Jeff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's great to be with everybody, and

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Speaker 1: I always look forward to This is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite podcasts that I do. Bobby, I'm sorry, I know

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Speaker 1: we do our podcast together and stuff like that. We

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Speaker 1: got all this stuff on, but this is my favorite one.

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Speaker 1: It really really is, because I love team building. I

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Speaker 1: love talking about players, I love discussions, I love ideas,

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Speaker 1: I love disagreements. That's I live for that in a

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Speaker 1: war room setting, and that's what If I can't do

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Speaker 1: that anymore like I used to, this is the next

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Speaker 1: best thing for me. And I'm so excited to be

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Speaker 1: with you guys and make this journey to the Draft,

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Speaker 1: and we're excited to be along for it because another

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Speaker 1: thing you love is teaching and learning the game and

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Speaker 1: having others learned the game. And I certainly did four

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Speaker 1: years ago whenever I jumped on the Draft show for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Same thing with Kattie, Jeff Cavanaugh, Bobby

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Speaker 1: over at the fan whenever they were all there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's such a learning environment, not only for the people

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Speaker 1: think that's what's going to be the most exciting thing

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Speaker 1: about this year. Bobby, glad to have you back for

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Speaker 1: your second straight campaign. Yep, I'm ready. Well, I'm half ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm not Brian brought us ready yet. Does anybody really

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Speaker 1: any of us no, no, no, no, no, you can't

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Speaker 1: be uh No, I'm worried about that young lady taking

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Speaker 1: it to me on these happened. I mean, I see

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Speaker 1: no backdown when I watch your shows, I see no

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Speaker 1: about having to battle somebody over on the other side

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Speaker 1: of this table. Yeah, no, this is this is one

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Speaker 1: where man the Cowboys. I was telling you last night,

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Speaker 1: the night Dak got hurt. Yeah, in Tampa Bay. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I drove home and I believe I turned on it

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Speaker 1: was Peter Skernsky the Northwestern I turned on Peter Scronsky

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Speaker 1: They put it together, they put it together, and they delayed.

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Speaker 1: They put me on a delay. So I'm not at

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Speaker 1: broad est levels yet, but we're gonna get there. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get there. Asha, glad to have you along for

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Speaker 1: because right now the way that brought us just set

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Speaker 1: it up. Me and Bobby are gonna be the mediators

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Speaker 1: argumentative on here. I'm gonna be fine. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna clip that and bring it up next time. The

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Speaker 1: but if i feel like I'm right, i might. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's what we want. We want that war that war

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Speaker 1: here's the thing the light Bobby just mentioned. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: there's there's some names there. Is it is the quality

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Speaker 1: You know, where are those guys? Where are they going

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Speaker 1: But until I stack this thing up, man, I'm just

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Speaker 1: like that's my that's that would be my number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: But even Quentin Johnson a guy where it's like, why

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Speaker 1: off press like it has spent at times for him?

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Speaker 1: press as well? Does he sink his hips? Is he

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Speaker 1: as cleaner route runner as he needs to be? I

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Speaker 1: when he was talking about press and all that. I'm

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Speaker 1: I think there's some good press corners, and there are.

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Speaker 1: back to Ringo. I'm curious, Bryant, do you have any

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm you know me, the guy that carries,

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Speaker 1: And the thing about Ringo, one of the knocks that

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Speaker 1: But I mean like Gonzalez, like Witherspoon, Smith, like, they're all,

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Speaker 1: officially Draft time as well. Brian brought us Ayesha Morrison,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Belt. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beam running everything in

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Speaker 1: the back. It's time now for your favorite segment, Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and Draft fans. It's time now for some Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty Twitter on Twitter. The sounder, of course coming

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Speaker 1: from Chris Beam. This is every year. How long has

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Speaker 1: this has been a tradition? Oh geez, we were yeah,

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Speaker 1: Valley Ranch, Yeah, weak in the d K Hill days,

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Speaker 1: something we kind of created the sink to be that

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Speaker 1: there was Twitter. Well, we how old do you think

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Speaker 1: they are? It's good about eleven years. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we asked the question every week and we'll answer

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Speaker 1: all the fan questions based off of the Twitter response.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep a running total of how many

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Speaker 1: we get to this year. We're gonna try to promise.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get five to day. I promise I

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Speaker 1: won't talk along. It's not just your like I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty. You gotta Brian, It's all you. This is

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Speaker 1: Twitter on the Brian all right. Thomas Davis asked what

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Speaker 1: can we do to help the quarterback succeed? That should

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Speaker 1: be the first priority this offseason for the Cowboys front

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Speaker 1: office is helping Dak press guy. Brian, We'll start with you.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like though you need to need

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Speaker 1: to evaluate really where you're at it. Wide receiver, Do

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Speaker 1: you feel like you've got enough weapons there? Do you

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Speaker 1: feel like you've got you know, to me, you look

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Speaker 1: at what's going on with the coordinator as well, it

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Speaker 1: might be time to move on. I know that's another

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Speaker 1: show another day and all that, but you know you're

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Speaker 1: in a process right now with a coordinator's interviewing for

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Speaker 1: another job. But you know, maybe you're on a situation.

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe some things have kind of run

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Speaker 1: their course here with this coordinator, and so to me,

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Speaker 1: I can't move on from the quarterback. So I got

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Speaker 1: to find ways to help him with whether it's coaching

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Speaker 1: or whether it's the skill on the offense. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at the wide receiver, You've got

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Speaker 1: to figure out the running back situation. The offensive lines

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Speaker 1: situation with Tyrann Smith. There's a lot of questions that

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Speaker 1: still need to be answered, but I think the number

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Speaker 1: one thing is to figure out what's going on with

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Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator. Yeah, if you're talking specifically related to

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Speaker 1: since this is the draft, show like what in the

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Speaker 1: draft can help your quarterback? Like, like what is most

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Speaker 1: can help this quarterback? Okay, well what are things you

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Speaker 1: can help You can help protect him, you can you know,

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Speaker 1: help in the running game, and try and just say

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Speaker 1: that No, I'm just saying, I'm saying. I'm saying that

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Speaker 1: there are these different ways that you can do it

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Speaker 1: to help within the draft. And so for me, that

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Speaker 1: would be the receiver is the biggest thing is that

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Speaker 1: you got to make sure. Look, there's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: evaluation period of and I don't think they're ready to

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Speaker 1: give up on him or anything, but obviously there's an

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Speaker 1: evaluation period with Jaylen Tolbert that even if they believe

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Speaker 1: in him, it's a big jump to say he's going

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Speaker 1: from game day inactive to regular contributor next year. There's

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Speaker 1: it's probably not going to be a jump that aggressive.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to look at that You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to look at where Michael Gallop's at if okay,

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Speaker 1: is this our legitimate number two is Noah brown Back.

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Speaker 1: So with all those questions that are up there, I

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Speaker 1: would like, if you're gonna ask me today, like what's

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Speaker 1: the odds on favorite of what position they take in

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Speaker 1: the first round? I say receiver. That would be my

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Speaker 1: guess right now, And I think it's just that would

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Speaker 1: be the biggest way to help your quarterback or NW

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Speaker 1: If you go, how can I help my quarterback? Go

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Speaker 1: get me Jordan Addison, go get me Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 1: Jake But go get me somebody like that. Well, they

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Speaker 1: could be in a situation too real quick. I should

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Speaker 1: where they The one thing that they've done well as

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Speaker 1: draft first round offensive lineman, especially if you're picking at

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Speaker 1: twenty six, knocked that out of the park. If you know,

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Speaker 1: you get things figure out with Tyron Smith and all that,

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Speaker 1: maybe the offensive line would be a big help. Not

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Speaker 1: until your point, Bobby, in regard to the wide receiver thing,

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about the fact that like we don't

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Speaker 1: know how many of these receivers take you over the

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Speaker 1: top or can just come in and be a contributor,

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Speaker 1: right away, So you gotta might have to go early

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Speaker 1: to get a guy that can come in and be

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Speaker 1: a difference maker right away. That's going to be the

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Speaker 1: biggest drawback to a wide receiver is if you don't

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Speaker 1: go up and get one early. Is everybody going to

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Speaker 1: look at this and say, is it Jaylen Tilbert again?

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Speaker 1: Because Jaylen Tilbert was expected to come in and play

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Speaker 1: snaps and instead he wasn't even on the active roster

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Speaker 1: throughout the Oh yeah, I don't want it to be

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Speaker 1: a revision of history. I was all for taking where

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Speaker 1: they took Sam Williams. I wanted them to take Jaylen Tulbert,

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Speaker 1: so I was. I was a big fan. I'm right

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Speaker 1: there with out the first year, timed doubt. Now you've

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Speaker 1: brought up offensive lineman too, kind of throwing up protection

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Speaker 1: into that conversation you mentioned there's a lot of tackles,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of interior guys. With Tyler Smith Tyrant Smith.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we don't know what Tyrn's gonna do. Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna retire, is he's gonna be back, Still up

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Speaker 1: in the air, but where do you go with drafting

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman? You go interior, even though there might

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Speaker 1: not be as many top heavy guys in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I think that you you know, they've proven that they

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Speaker 1: could take a guy and feel like they know they're

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Speaker 1: interested if he could play tackle, they feel like he

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Speaker 1: could play guard. I don't. It's like it's like these

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Speaker 1: coaches that say, hey, when Dan Quinn, if he leaves,

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Speaker 1: oh well, you don't want to have to go get

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Speaker 1: a three four defensive coordinator. These teams are multiple, the

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Speaker 1: way they play fronts. You got personnel you can do

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Speaker 1: this with. You find a guy, you plug and play.

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Speaker 1: They did it with Tyler Smith. They could do it

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Speaker 1: with one of these other guys to kind of figure

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Speaker 1: things out. I'll say this. Throw another thing in there

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Speaker 1: too that I mentioned the running back situation. I would

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Speaker 1: not be opposed to taking a running back at twenty six,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're I wouldn't got there. Well it's not,

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Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I'm not a person. A lot

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Speaker 1: of twitter question does it help the quarterback? Does it

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Speaker 1: help the absolutely? Do we see do we see what?

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Speaker 1: Did we see what Pollard did for Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 1: this thing he needed a whole here. Yeah, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, So to me, just throw that in there's

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Speaker 1: another possibility, especially if they move on from Zeke and

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Speaker 1: Tony and you need something to go from that. Well,

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Speaker 1: s's y'all talking about interior? Uh do since we're talking

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Speaker 1: about it, do you are we talking about bringing back

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Speaker 1: McGovern because I think that could have a back to

577
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Speaker 1: could play a factor on if you do go into

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Speaker 1: your this you would or you wouldn't. You said no

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Speaker 1: me personally, I probably wouldn't because I would. I would

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Speaker 1: ride with I would ride with Tyrn Smith at left tackle.

581
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Speaker 1: I'd put him back at left tackle and put Tyler

582
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Speaker 1: Smith at left guard. I would do just too. But

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Speaker 1: just like they're bringing back McGovern because he could play

584
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Speaker 1: anywhere Tyler, they're not going to spend money on him

585
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Speaker 1: when they got FARNI at Tyler look so much more

586
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Speaker 1: comfortable to me at tackle though he did. That's that's

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Speaker 1: another thing is that I felt like he really honed

588
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Speaker 1: in on that tackle, spy, and you could see him

589
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Speaker 1: getting better through the year. Towards the end of the year,

590
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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, yeah, that's what he are you

591
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Speaker 1: gonna move Tyron over though, back to right tackle or

592
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Speaker 1: where I mean Terren Steel? Where does he go get

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Speaker 1: that equation because Tyron wasn't nearly as comfortable at right

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Speaker 1: tackle as he would have been at left tackle Tyler

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Speaker 1: had his Wartz. I don't know that twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith is a better left tackle than twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three Tyler Smith. I don't know that. Okay, then if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, then you move on from you move

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Speaker 1: on from or you move on from Tyron Smith, because

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Speaker 1: you're gonna take this seventeen million dollars and go do

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Speaker 1: something else. I'm just saying that if you don't want

602
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Speaker 1: to draft an interior, if you don't want to draft

603
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Speaker 1: on this team has proven if they draft offensive line

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Speaker 1: in the first round, it usually works out very well

605
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Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. Absolutely, So would you look at a

606
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Speaker 1: interior guy that could play right guard and left guard? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Look how much you like I wanted to replace him

608
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Speaker 1: without or with Tyler Linderbaum last year, but they kept

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Speaker 1: two centers on the Future's List, right, So I wondered

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Speaker 1: that I think that. I mean, you know, we talked

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Speaker 1: about Beyadist not having a whole bunch of competition behind

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Speaker 1: him or people behind him. I think they get somebody

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Speaker 1: they look into. How did you think McGovern played at

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Speaker 1: center at the end of the year. No, he was

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Speaker 1: better regard. Uh, let's this is why we only get

616
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Speaker 1: through one or two questions. Phenomenal. Yeah, brought us was

617
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Speaker 1: looking at me. He's like, you just asked the second question.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with ash on this one. Maurice asked what

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Speaker 1: type of wide receiver would you want to make the

620
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Speaker 1: best fit at number two? If you're looking at wide

621
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Speaker 1: receivers in this draft, the best compliment to Seedee Lamb,

622
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Speaker 1: what type of wide receiver would it be? Tater tots

623
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Speaker 1: Um Right now, I feel like you are lacking a guy,

624
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Speaker 1: a Cole Beasley type guy, like an underneath guy that

625
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Speaker 1: can that can win on his own, but it is

626
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Speaker 1: kind of shifty and can play on the Yes, I

627
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Speaker 1: feel like Deck really has thrived when he's had a

628
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Speaker 1: speedy slot guy. I think every team needs one and

629
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Speaker 1: um in it. And if that slot has the ability

630
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Speaker 1: to take the top off also, I think that could

631
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Speaker 1: be beneficial. But I would like a guy that can

632
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Speaker 1: take care of the intermediate stuff but has some maybe

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Speaker 1: some yak ability to take it to the house. And

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Speaker 1: I think Bobby I agree with you, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd be all in favor that I don't know that

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Speaker 1: this coaching staff would be like if we're just talking

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Speaker 1: about slot specific type of players, I don't know that.

638
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: I think it has to be somebody with flexibility for them, Like,

639
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Speaker 1: I don't know that they'd be thrilled with like you know,

640
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Speaker 1: Downs or somebody like that. To me, where I think

641
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: like Downs would like play in the slot here. And

642
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Speaker 1: then when you look at the Josh Downs from North Carolina, Yeah, sorry,

643
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: Josh Downs, North Carolina. When when you so to me,

644
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean clean route runner. But but like I mean

645
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Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Jordan Addison, who's a

646
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: really good route runner, I think that that's again you're

647
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: talking about like eyes, Is he too small for them?

648
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Do they want somebody that's a little more physically built.

649
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: The two things I feel like they missed at times

650
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: this year were elite route runners who can get open.

651
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: And then, as Brian talked about a lot during this year,

652
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: guys who attacked the football. Yeah, like there were times

653
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: that they just didn't have guys that attacked football. And

654
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: he looked at the two guys that are probably at

655
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: the top of the draft in terms of the receivers,

656
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison at USC Quentintin Johnston at TCU. Like those

657
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: guys both addressed that Jordan Addison will get open. Quentin

658
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: Johnson I feel like I'll attack the ball. And so

659
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: for me, that's those two types of guys would be

660
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: interesting to me. I just don't know how much your

661
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: big physical receivers that you continue to draft or helping

662
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: you at this point. Like I understand now we're into

663
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: size and all that stuff and whatever the case may be,

664
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Speaker 1: but I think you have to have a good variation

665
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: of it. You have to have options. I mean, everybody

666
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: can't be the same build on is, but who I

667
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: don't think they have anybody, but I don't think they've

668
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: had anybody built like Quentin Johnston. No, I wasn't talking

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Speaker 1: about Quinn. I'm just talking about in general. You know

670
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Speaker 1: you were talking about, are you right? That's probably the

671
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Speaker 1: last But even Quentin Quentin's even bigger him. I feel

672
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: like and and and different. Quentin Quentin is a Quentin

673
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: is an ex receiver, like like it's straightforward like definition

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00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: of it. And so that I mean, when you talk

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00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: about that game against San Francisco, when you're talking about

676
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: all this short and intermediate area stuff like that, Like

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: he wouldn't like you you have fight there with Quentin

678
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: Johnson and those sorts of passing games, like I feel

679
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Speaker 1: like he would be able to take advantage of the

680
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, all right, you're just running a curl or

681
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: whatever else where there's not gonna be a whole lot

682
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: of opportunity to separate and just have five yards of

683
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: separation and a wide open hit. Like Quentin Johnson's a

684
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: guy that Okay, he's covered, but I feel like he's

685
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: gonna fight through the contact, He's gonna finish the catch.

686
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: And so those are the types of guys that I

687
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: think could absolutely help them. Yeah, they need a home

688
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: run hitter. And Jalen Hyatt, if you watch him at

689
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: tennis set, that's a home run hitter, right, Yes, he is.

690
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Every play he makes is big, and that quarterback did

691
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: a good job of getting him the ball. And I

692
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: know that team snaps the ball every nineteen seconds, but

693
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you watch a guy like him, and yeah, you need

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Speaker 1: somebody that's a home run hitter in this offense, you know,

695
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and I should to your point. Yeah, the thing about

696
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: the slot and all that makes perfect sense to me.

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00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's why. I was thinking that maybe the

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Speaker 1: t Y Hilton stuff like that would show that. But

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00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Bobby's right, this coaching staff is not interested. The head

700
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: coach is not interested in the smaller guys. He's just

701
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: not interested in it. He's always talked about the interchangeability

702
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: of these wide receivers of having to play both ways.

703
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: Are they pigeonholing themselves in that regard? If by wanting

704
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: to be versatile, are they actually limiting the way that

705
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: their offense can run by picking up some of these

706
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: dynamic playmakers. You know, maybe maybe at times, But I

707
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: mean I also I would see the argument from their side,

708
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: which is like, we want the flexibility to know, like

709
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: like we don't want to just they would they would

710
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Speaker 1: view it as like we're being pigeonholed on offense in

711
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: terms of we're saying this guy can only play here. Okay,

712
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: well what can I get out of that? What kind

713
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: of things can I do with the formation if this

714
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: guy has to play here? And so I understand their

715
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Speaker 1: perspective on it, but yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world to maybe have a

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00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: bring in a you know, if you've got a Danny

718
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Amon Doler or somebody like that, like one of these

719
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: guys who historically has been a smaller slot receiver who

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: can just get open. I'm fine having one of those guys. Yeah,

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the question was like, what can

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Speaker 1: you do to help your quarterback out? Or how about

723
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: the office? The first question, right, A slot, A slot,

724
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that is that's their job, and that's what they were.

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00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: It might have been a little bit of thought process

726
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: on the order I questions. You try, you try there?

727
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Who who was who was the biggest assist to Dak

728
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: Prescott his rookie here as a pass catcher? Cole Beasley?

729
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: H Cole Beasley was was was his his safety valve

730
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: more than even Jason Witton. And so you know, I

731
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to having a guy like that, I mean, Colin,

732
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: especially if you move on from Dalton just about the same.

733
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Speaker 1: You can get that from No no, no, But I'm

734
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: just talking about security blanket throw too. Wow, that's what

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00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: I thought you could possibly give from t Y. But

736
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Speaker 1: to y'all's point, it's not something, didn't it. It seems

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00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: like they want to Yeah, And I mean Ty is

738
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: a little different, I think because Ty was hopefully gonna

739
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: like stretch the field, and you saw him do it

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00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: against Philly, like like that big play there and everything

741
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: I got. But I mean also I can remember t

742
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: why was was on the street and wise, you know,

743
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: mid thirties. Almost like there's gonna be limitations on that now,

744
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: whether or not he wants to come back to he said,

745
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons he didn't sign was he

746
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: wanted to watch his kids play football and his kids

747
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: play sports and grow up a little bit. So is

748
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Speaker 1: he gonna be willing to come back and go through

749
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: an entire training camp, an entire regular season. Got to

750
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: keep that in mind too, all right. Third question, this

751
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: probably the last one we're gonna get to. Carly asked,

752
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: with the development of Bland and Mukuamo at corner, potentially,

753
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: is it as big of a need for the Cowboys

754
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: as it first felt whenever Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis

755
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: went down. Bobby, I'll start with you, yes, see yes,

756
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: And look, I mean, like I like the versatility that

757
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: you see from Mukuamo and the way that he played

758
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: in the slot those two weeks. That's great, But yeah,

759
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: you need I mean, it feels like just yesterday that

760
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs got here. But we're talking about like now

761
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: he's eligible for a contract extension. We're entering the last

762
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: year of his deal. You've got Digs there, Brown likely gone.

763
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Lewis is entering the last year of his deal. I

764
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to approach that. He's I

765
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: think he's do five six million coming up this year.

766
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, Bland was good, but you've got you've got

767
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: questions behind there, behind durn Bland. You know, Kelvin, Joseph

768
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: and Sean right to this point have not been the

769
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: players that they wanted them to be. I understand both

770
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: of them have contributed on special teams. That's great, but

771
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: you didn't pick corners in the second or third round

772
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: just to be special teamers. And so yeah, I think

773
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: corner is still especially in a three corner league, and

774
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: you've got two legitimate ones right now. Yeah, I think

775
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: I think a third corners absolutely still a need. I'm

776
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: looking for a guy like Cam Smith from South Carolina,

777
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: who I think he could play the slot. I think

778
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: he could play outside. I think he's got great movement,

779
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: the ball skills, things like that. He's a he's a

780
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: little bit of a blockdown tackler. I mean, you know,

781
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: kind of a guy you wish you'd wrap up a

782
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: little bit, but he will come forward, he will make plays,

783
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: He creates turnovers, The footwork, the awareness, they make up

784
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: for any other deficiency that this kid might have. I'm

785
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: looking for somebody that could play I think both spots,

786
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, much like what you got with Bland, you know,

787
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: because what's going to happen is these guys get hurt

788
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: and now somebody has to go play another position. I'm

789
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: just still want to name out there a guy like

790
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Cam Smith from South Carolina. I think he'd be a

791
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: good fit for that type of guy that can do

792
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: both things. Now, agree's still a need, still a need.

793
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: We saw they were picking up people off the street.

794
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: It's like because depth is such an issue, Yeah, so

795
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I go for it. Get more, get more corners also too,

796
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're being real, I mean it affected

797
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: your special teams play as well, because you had to

798
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: pull those corners from you know, punt team to come

799
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: up and play for you. So I it's a domino effect. Absolutely.

800
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: Once you move one guy around, you're gonna have to

801
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: move a couple guys around. I like the idea, Brian,

802
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: they're having somebody versatile. You don't have that guy. Maybe

803
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you do in Anthony Brown that could play inside. Well,

804
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: it showed they drafted possibly Bland. They showed Bland could

805
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: play inside or outside. I'd just give me the flexibility

806
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: to have both positions. Kind of covered Bland, kind of

807
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: covered you up for the Kelvin Joseph mistake right now.

808
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: On this team specifically, we would even Joseph was he's

809
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: not working out, we would be giving him so much credit.

810
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: If if Kelvin Joseph was Bland, if if, if, if

811
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: Joseph played like Bland, we would be so happy about

812
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: the And they still deserve a ton of credit for

813
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: getting Bland in the fifth round like they did. It

814
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: was an excellent jobs missed on him. A lot of

815
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: teams missed on a sick All right, we're gonna we're

816
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna fit a fourth one in here. One word answer here.

817
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Would you consider be Jean Robinson, the running back from Texas,

818
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: if he falls to pick number twenty six, I wouldn't

819
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: consider it. I'd run the card up there, okay at

820
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: twenty wow, so you're you're hard running anyway. Twenty six

821
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's running a card running Oh yeah, turn

822
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: in the car. Okay, then Yester, I'll say, I'll say

823
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: yes for Bijean, but nobody else, nobody running back way.

824
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: I think the value of the player, and especially if

825
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: you move on from Zeke and pother, you're you got

826
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: a huge hole at running back. And we talked about

827
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: how to help the quarterback. Bijean Robinson is, regardless of

828
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: the position, is one of the best players I've seen

829
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: in this strap. Drafting or running back in the first

830
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: round is the only position any longer where you can

831
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: get the value that matches the contract, where you could

832
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: get production that matches a top tier player, and still

833
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: you're locked in a five years of Okay, I'm comfortable

834
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: paying a top tier running back this amount when in

835
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: reality they may get close to sixteen million once they

836
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: at the open market. Not quarterback. I just don't think

837
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: you're going to get the same level. Like running backs

838
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: deteriorate by the time the second contract, quarterbacks usually elevate. Yeah,

839
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. All right, we got

840
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: four done. Thomas Davis, Maurice Carly Michael, thank you for

841
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: your questions. We will answer some more tomorrow on More

842
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty. But when we come back early

843
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: pet cat candidates. It's one of the funnest things we do.

844
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: More for most fun things we here on the Draft show.

845
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some pet cats when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, Todd thought it would be secure to

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam, Bobby Belt, Brian brought us Ayesha Morrison. I'm

886
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's all right, let's get into pet cats. This

887
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: is so much fun. Yet to explain what the pet

888
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: cat is. So, the pet cat is somebody that's maybe

889
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar. They don't have to be.

890
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: You can pick a pet cat in the first round.

891
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: It's just the guy you like you're gonna stand on

892
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: the table for. And it doesn't have to be all

893
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: year long. You can leave your pet cat. You can

894
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: leave it straight, you can let it, let it wander

895
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. But if you want to bring it back,

896
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: that's always there too. You got it. This is your

897
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: early early pet cats. So, Brian, what's you got? Cody

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Mock He's a six five, three hundred and six pound

899
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: tackle from North Dakota State. Where's number seventy and I'll

900
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: tell you what. He's a starting left tackle for the Bisons.

901
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: This guy is an outstanding athlete. The way he moves,

902
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: the ease that he plays with. You could pull him

903
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: in space, you can use him on the backside with cutoffs.

904
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of things with him. He

905
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: keeps sustain He didn't let his guys off the block.

906
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: There's several players, but you see him just driving his

907
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: man into the ground. And I love that about this kid.

908
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Plays that are really fine program. This team lives in

909
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: Dallas every year, actually out here in Frisco playing in

910
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: national championship games. I think that he gets away from

911
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: the line no problem. In the past protection side, you

912
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: could strike you with your hands and stuff. I never

913
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: see this guy getting walked back. I mentioned he's six five,

914
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: he's three oh six. I would consider taking this guy

915
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: and moving in the center, is what I would do,

916
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking about these teams that have that ability.

917
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: We've we've seen like the Philadelphia Eagle to their teams Kansas. See,

918
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: if you have an athletic center, you happened here with

919
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. You have a guy that's an athletic center,

920
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: you can cut your defense in half. You can also

921
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: pull him outside. You can actually maybe have a screen

922
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: package with his team hasn't had since Travis Frederick was here.

923
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: But just I think, you know, he's got that kind

924
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: of frame where he's a little long. It might be

925
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: trouble adding bulk, but I really do like this kid

926
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: from a North Dakota state. His name's Cody Mock's a's a.

927
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: He's a tackle that I think can maybe play as

928
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: a center. He's gonna be a Senior Bowl guy too,

929
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: So he did accept. Hopefully they're working there a little bit. Yeah,

930
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: maybe getting back and forth for some practice film there.

931
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: Very nice Bobby who got I have and this is

932
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: a I thought this one was going to be a

933
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: little bit more low key, and then I just saw

934
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: mel Kiper stuck him in the first round. Today USC's

935
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: two Ley Tulei Pilop. Yes, I'm stunned Kiper hasn't been

936
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: the first round. I'm kind of stunned too. Honestly, I

937
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: thought it was like a second running one or something

938
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: like that. But to be fair, we all thought he

939
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: was nuts when he projected Tyler Smith with his very

940
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: first mock draft of the cow last year but this

941
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: is a guy who I was talking to Brian before

942
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: the show. He reminds me of a little bit of

943
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: Zach Allen from Boston College from a few years back,

944
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: who finally has started to click for the Cardinals this year.

945
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: But think maybe also like some other guys that you

946
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: could say were similar, Trey Flowers, maybe not similar in

947
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: in that with with epinessa aj epinessa who ended up

948
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: with the bills not the same length, like like, it's

949
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: not that kind of a guy. And he's he's bulkier,

950
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: but in terms of powerful players, strong hands, he can

951
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: play insider outside, he stands up sometimes at like six

952
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: four two ninety and rush is standing up. And so

953
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: he's a guy who I think, you know, the testing

954
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: isn't going to be crazy with him, but plays with

955
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot of power, good initial burst. You know. I

956
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: think he's a a high IQ rusher, and you know,

957
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: for you know this Dallas team that likes to play

958
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: guys that can play inside outside, four three, three four,

959
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. I think Twi Pelotto could

960
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: do that. So I like him a lot. I watched

961
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: his cotton bolt again against Dulane. He's a fun player.

962
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: He flies around and that was in a bowl game too. Now,

963
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's guys that are playing and that

964
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: are having some fun that with him off of that

965
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: second level, I really like it. You want me to

966
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: go and actually want to go next? Na Ima, go

967
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: for it, all right? So my cat, My cat is

968
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: a big cat. This is a this is a chunky cat.

969
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: But I love him though. All right. So Christian Mahogany

970
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: from Boston College, UM Interior, he's in. He's a left guard.

971
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: Um play really well. Left guard. Heat to me is

972
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: what I thought if you kept Tyler ed guard, what

973
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: he would have become. Um, he's just nasty off the line,

974
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: vicious hands can get to the second level. He finishes well.

975
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: I like his feet, but his anchor is serious, like

976
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: if you put it, if you people put their hands

977
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: on him, he puts his hand on you. He's probably

978
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: gonna have you stuck there. But he plays with a

979
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: lot of power. Um. I was impressed with him. If

980
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: you watch him in the Clemson game, he put those

981
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: dudes in a seatbelt and you already know that Clemson

982
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: d line is nothing to deal It's hard to deal with.

983
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: But I really look at him and I like the

984
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: fact that he has flexibility at the right guard position

985
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: as well. He played right guards junior year, sophomore year,

986
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: I believe, and then he actually played pretty well there.

987
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: But then they moved him to left guard because what's

988
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: the gentleman's name, Zion Johnson. Yeah, Zion Johnson left So

989
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: then they moved them to left guard, and he succeeded there.

990
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: So when you look at kind of what the Cowboys

991
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: we talked about, it you want to kind of keep

992
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Tyler at left tack or why not if you have

993
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: a guy you can bring in that can play that

994
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: play that left guard at that level. Those combo blocks

995
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: with him and Tyler Jesus, then because they're both they

996
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: both have that you know, that attack like I'm gonna finish,

997
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my hands on you. And then again

998
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: we've seen injuries happen. You got a guy that you

999
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: can continue to keep working and maybe if you have

1000
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: something happened at right guard, you can slide them there.

1001
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: That versatility I think is gonna get some people's attention.

1002
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: He's kind of a new the radar, but I really

1003
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: like him and I've been paying attention to him. Very nice. Yeah,

1004
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I like it, Bobby, You may have to help me

1005
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: with his first name. Is it Demarvian Overshow. Yeah, he

1006
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: goes by just D. It's D from Texas linebacker six

1007
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: four two twenty five. You would think he'd play off

1008
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: the edge he played downhill, No, sir, he's a coverage linebacker.

1009
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: He used to play corner back in the day through

1010
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: high school, early days of college, played kind of that

1011
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: that jay Ron Curse type of safety role if he

1012
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: was in there. He has experienced playing that defensive back position,

1013
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: and you could see it in his footwork. Covers tight

1014
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: ends well. He does come down and hit. His athleticism,

1015
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: his speed are all there. He's got great length, he

1016
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: can bat down passes. He can kind of stick with

1017
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the routes. I like him

1018
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot for a guy that may not be He's

1019
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: not a first round guy, not a second round guy.

1020
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: But you talk about third round, top one hundred, back

1021
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: end guy. You're picking at ninety, so you're gonna have

1022
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: some back end third round guys. He's a value pick

1023
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: for me that I think would be really really fun

1024
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: because he's the project, not a great tackler, not gonna

1025
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: come up and just wreck you great. Great in coverage,

1026
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: not as great and run defense either. Those are things

1027
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: that I think are teachable though. And if you can

1028
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: maybe pick him up with at that ninety spot, I

1029
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have some success. Maybe somebody, have you

1030
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: seen him, Bobby, I haven't studied him yet, but just

1031
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: watching him because he steadily progressed. He was he was

1032
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: a big time. He was a big recruit for them

1033
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: when he got to Texas, but he steadily progressed. The

1034
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: instincts look better each year he's but I mean he

1035
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: is a very flexible like you know that. That's a

1036
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: guy who they felt comfortable like, Okay, we can blitz him.

1037
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: We can play him a linebacker, we can pla him

1038
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: at safety like he He's somebody who I think they

1039
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: feel like, okay, he can impact things on defense on

1040
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: all three levels if you want him to. And it

1041
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: is to Marvian just just for I call him d

1042
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: D what everybody what everybody else calls him. I'm putting

1043
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: D right here in quotations just to make sure, just

1044
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: to make sure. But I want to make sure and

1045
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: get it right so whenever they pick him in round three,

1046
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: I can make sure and say it the right way.

1047
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: Got to I mentioned my, my, my, my guy's size.

1048
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: He's sixty three, three hundred and eighteen pounds. Man. Yeah,

1049
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: he's a big dude. That's why I said he's hard

1050
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: to move interior now honestly, but I will say, uh, creeping.

1051
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: I was creeping on reading and stuff and his his weight, Lulu,

1052
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: his weight. We call it studying, you gotta, I call

1053
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: it creeping, man, But yeah, I uh. What's one thing

1054
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: about him though, Like I like that he's big and

1055
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: he's heavy. But that's something that sounds like could be

1056
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Speaker 1: a not a con but something that people are iffy

1057
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: about about is he he has to stay He needs

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00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: to stay at a good size, like he can get

1059
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: he can get heavier at times, so whoever is coaching

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00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: him and has to keep him, you know, grounded. So

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely Yeah, it sounds like he's weight confluctuate and

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Speaker 1: he can it's hard out here, but now sometimes but

1063
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: sometimes he can get on the heavier side. So I

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00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: think that's just something to keep an eye on. But

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00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: and that can affect his movie minute time. So that's

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Speaker 1: the only thing about him that punch is disgusting. His

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00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: first punch is disrespect. I'm gonna watch him today. I'm

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00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: gonna go and watch him a little bit. I watch

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00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: your North North Dakota State it. Yeah, that's good about

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Speaker 1: the pet Cats man, because what happens is these guys

1071
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: end up playing in the league and then everybody will

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Speaker 1: tweet at you, like, hey, your guys just killing these

1073
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. So yeah, I mean you

1074
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: you are you are has some good line here. You're

1075
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: single handedly responsible for anybody knowing who George Karloftus is.

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: For instance, I'm Carlos. Yeah that is that? Is that true?

1077
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: Is that a drop yet? Do we have that yet?

1078
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: It probably don't happen. We need we need to make

1079
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: it happen. I'll pull it. I'm gonna send it to you.

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00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: Let's make it work. That was so fun and sky More.

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00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's every time I look at him, I

1082
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: think at Jeff Kathman in that ugly number twenty four jers.

1083
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: It looks awful awful. All right. So that's our first

1084
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: episode of the Draft show here in twenty twenty three.

1085
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Here's the good thing about the way we've scheduled this.

1086
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait very long for the second one.

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00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: We're going back to back days. We will be back

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00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow eleven am Central time. We'll get that thing posted

1089
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: as well. I want you to if you're a draft

1090
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: fan out there and you're listening, send us your pet cats.

1091
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: Put it on the record, start sending it to a tag,

1092
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Tag, Brian Tag, Aisha Tag, myself. Give us your

1093
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: pet cats. I want to know where you're standing with

1094
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: some of these guys, because it is fun to just

1095
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: kind of put a name on there and ride with

1096
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: him for as long as you possibly can. But it

1097
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: should be a fun draft process. I'm excited to be

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00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: back with you guys, to welcome Aisha to the table.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be an exciting next couple months.

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Speaker 1: Guys looking forward to it. Ready to go. That does

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Speaker 1: it for us for Bobby Belt, Brian brought us Aisha Morrison,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Beam. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from

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Speaker 1: the Draft show. We'll see you tomorrow. This has been

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Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.