WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: Tamar Tells All 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:01.400 Hey rain Drops. 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:01.800 Yes. 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:04.440 So, as you know, my podcast. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.760 Reality with the King is on tour and my next 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.840 stop is live in New York City with the one 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:18.640 the Only Queen of New Jersey, Teresa Judais. Yes, on Tuesday, 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.000 June eighteenth at the City Winery, Teresa Judais and I 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.720 will have a live conversation in front of a live audience. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:31.600 Make sure you get your tickets now. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:38.000 Log onto my website Kingdom raint dot com. 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Twice a 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.240 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.679 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.720 shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:39.319 and tweeting about Tamar Bricks and y'all. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.839 By the and callum Hi, Hi, Tamar, Hi, my love. 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.000 Look at all these beautiful people in the building. Hi, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:49.400 y'all join. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.960 But before we get started, I want to tell you this. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:59.840 I love you. You're my sister, and I don't ever 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.559 feel like you get celebrated enough. 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.480 And tonight me the rain. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.120 Drops and the Tay Martians are here to celebrate you. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.440 And I have a gift for you because it's not 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.960 every day a beautiful black woman has a number one 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.120 single on us iTunes. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.200 Okay, thank you. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.360 So that gift is for you because listen, y'all be 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.320 having a girl the blocks for all the craziest things, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.520 but y'all will be having her when she breaks records 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.040 where she has a chart topping song. So this is 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.440 my gift for you. On behalf of the rain drops 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:50.320 on the tay Martians. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.960 Oh man, thank y'all so much. I love you, Tamar Braxton. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.800 This is your life. So listen. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.560 Before we get started with but because stuff, I want 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.440 to start by asking you, how are you? 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:07.320 I'm great? 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:09.960 First of all, I was trying to say before you 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.720 gave me this, I have never been here before like 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.720 this is you know. I know people come and perform 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.680 at City Winery. This is my first experience here with you. Yeah, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.720 and I'm really happy to be here. And this is 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:28.440 my first like live podcast. So I'm doing amazing. I 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:35.200 feel amazing, Thank you, thank you. I feel healthy and 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.960 blessed and so so grateful. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:43.480 Yeah, I feel great. Yeh no, and I'm glad you did. Listen. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.520 We're all here to support you, to love you. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.960 And I mean when I say, I feel like when 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:53.120 it comes to you, you are so misunderstood and I 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.160 don't feel like you get the prop you deserve. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:57.640 I don't know too many people who can sing like 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.400 you with the mic is on you. When she's live, 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:03.800 she sound like her studio album. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.040 You know, she's not one of these girls who released 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.480 music that are two minutes long. I mean, she's saying 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.600 background born this way, lady got God, Honey, I'm gonna 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.680 take Marsha and I'm nigga'stography. Bitch, don't flavor me, honey. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.080 I'm here for you now. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.880 Listen, girl, I'm the host of tonight. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.960 She don't have that so Louisiana. I'm gonna need you 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.479 to let me do. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.800 I love you though, baby, and the cocktails are definitely flowing. Yes, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:38.080 But I always wanted to ask you this. That's what 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.479 I came here for, right, okay O Bowers wanted. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.279 To ask you this though. 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:53.080 Do you feel like you get credit for that voice? 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:54.440 No? 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.000 I feel like I do. I actually do. You know? 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.000 When people show up to my tours and sell out 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.800 my tours, I feel like that is getting the credit 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:06.400 you deserve. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:06.800 Right. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.320 I feel like the Grammy nominations and all the accolades 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.000 that I get nominated for, I feel like those are 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.400 people who are definitely celebrating you, right. 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:18.360 And you know when you. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.320 Just put out a birthday song and people go and 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.799 support and buy it and make it number one without 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.880 even doing anything, I feel definitely supported one thousand percent. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.160 One thousand percent. Well that's good. That's good because you 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:31.920 are one of the. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:37.120 Few who's able to really sing. And I keep saying that, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.720 but I don't feel like some. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:45.320 Of the new girls sing like you can sing. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:50.599 And even now listen, not only can she sing, this 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:57.239 woman created the bracts and family values and I don't 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.279 anything for that, and theme song and a theme song 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:11.919 you wrote the theme song of it. When it comes 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.680 to that show, when you created Brax and Family Values, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.280 what was going on in your life where you felt like, Okay, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.960 I this is reality TV maybe the next phase of 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.960 my career. Because before that, again, Lady God got Mary J. Blige, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:30.480 you were on the road. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.200 With your sister and you you had an incredible career. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.560 What made you create a show that still till this 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.960 day is the highest rated show we TV has ever seen, 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.360 not Lauren Order, you know, not the Law and Order 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.919 repeats that comes on Saturday, Sundays, Monday, Tuesday Wednesdays to 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.720 make up for the Braxon Family Value. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.560 So when what was going through your mind when you 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:54.240 created that show? 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.400 It's actually the longest running black family reality TV show 0:06:58.560 --> 0:06:59.960 in television history. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.839 Actually, to be honest. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.240 You know, we grew up on shows like A Different 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:14.200 World and Cosby and two two seven, right, like black 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:19.480 scripted television, and after a while, we just didn't have 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.560 any of those things to like compare our lives to 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.240 or to identifying with anybody on television. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.520 And I remember being. 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:33.800 At the Thanksgiving dinner table and everybody was kind of 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.680 having their own conversations. But have you ever been at 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.280 a table where you can like hear everybody conversation and 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.680 like and so I was just thinking that all of 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.400 my siblings, we were actually in completely different walks of life, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.320 but we all wanted the same thing. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.920 And at that time, we all wanted to be entertainers. 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.040 And Trina was. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.960 Married to Gabe at the time, and that was a 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.920 mess at the cable. Tauanna was married to Andre and 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.640 that was a mess at the table. My mother, my 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.720 mother didn't want to be at the table because my 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.080 father was there and she was like, I don't want 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.280 to share a piece of wood with this man. Yeah, 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.480 and then you know, Tony and Carrie and then all 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.480 the kids was running around the house. And I just 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:20.440 felt like, because we were all black women, there are 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.600 no examples of black women on television in all facets 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:28.160 of life. So I just thought it would be important, 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.120 you know, to bring that to television and you know, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.439 give us an opportunity to recognize ourselves. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.120 That was really what it was about. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.760 No, you apply for that, Yeah, because a lot of 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.240 people and let me check everybody in the room real fast, 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.120 A lot of people would say I did it to 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.840 be famous, and I did it because I already had money. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.760 I was already kept. A lot of people don't know it. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:59.400 No, for real, Like my job every day with Vents 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.960 us to go to the gym every day, go to 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.160 lunch and have a dress to wear for dinner. No, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.400 and go shopping. No really, that was I was like 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:15.960 a basketball wife. No really, And so I did. No, 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.760 I'm serious, I'm serious. So it wasn't about money. It 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:24.000 was about the need for black women to be on 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:28.080 television where our community can still feel a part of 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.920 because it was not the Kardashians, because they were the 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.240 only family TV show that was on then, and I 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.440 think that Atlanta Housewives had just come out. But I 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.400 just thought it was important for us to look at 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.280 the television and number one, recognize ourselves, and then number 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.720 two have something to look forward to, like, oh, I 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.720 could do that too. They that's just like my cousin, 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.920 that's just like me. I could be like that, And 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:52.960 so that was important to me. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:58.240 So here you Are. The show debuts is a hit. 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.360 And I remember having this conversation with a few of 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.720 the girls you know my podcast because I know I 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.120 love all the girls. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:11.000 I do every reality show has to break out star. 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.600 It's just the way it is, right, Nini Leaks, you 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.280 know what I'm saying, jos Lene Hernandez, It's just it 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.480 just happens, right Quad, Well, right doctor Heavenly Quad. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:27.000 Oh. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:32.480 I love her. I enjoy her, Yes, baby, baby, she's. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.920 The start of her show. Heavenly Heavenly beg And I 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:36.600 love Jackie. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.840 That's it's not joke being heavily yeah, but all trust aside. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:47.440 I remember watching the show and I was immediately drawn 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.720 to you. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.520 Why though you I'm gonna. 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.760 Tell you what it was, and y'all tell me if 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.679 y'all disagreed. You came in on the scene funny than 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:02.440 a motherfucker, and you had your own words, your own slogging. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.360 I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.480 want to like doing all that and then you don't like. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.000 That is a no dot com back slash or honey 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:11.679 dot ed u. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.920 And I said, who who is this woman that acts 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.000 like me in the games? 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.080 At you know the plub I was I was. I 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.080 was obsessed with you. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:29.880 You were arguably immediately the breakout star. When you became 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:36.760 the breakstart, the breakout star of the Braxtons. Did that 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:40.160 have an effect on your relationship with your family? 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.319 I'm not really sure. I don't know how to answer 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:53.120 that question, she said. Honestly, it definitely started a lot 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:58.480 of tension, if I'm honest. Out of nowhere, and it 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.040 was out of nowhere for me because this is who 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.000 we all were without the cameras, you know, And it's 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.280 nothing I was putting on or you know, acting or 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:10.840 trying to become something. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.920 It just happened that way. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:18.400 And you know, my life was exactly the way that 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:24.040 you know it was portrayed during the first and second season. Yeah, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.280 you know, I had, I have and always had a 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.360 whole lot of gay friends, you know, since the fourth grade, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:30.840 Like this is a lifestyle for me. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.040 You were somebody's Judy and the port fourth grade. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.400 Yes, we would sit during lunch and eat our green 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:39.920 peppers because we didn't want to get thig. 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.480 Yes, eat our green peppers for lunch. 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:53.520 Yeah, and four grade and fourth grade, Yeah, you do 0:12:53.640 --> 0:13:02.840 like this all the time. I enjoyed him. No, Yeah, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.600 it did start a lot of tension. And I think 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.640 because you know, it was only one super famous person 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.200 in my family, and I just thought that maybe for 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.080 my family was weird for them. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.360 Yeah, do you regret doing the show? Do you feel 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.599 like if the show never happened, the relationship would be 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.000 different or back to being what it used to be 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:25.400 before the. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:31.080 Show relationship wise, yes, but for the culture, No, it 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.440 was necessary for the culture. And I just feel like 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.480 sometimes the assignments that we get put on comes with 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:45.720 that kind of backlash or stigma or I don't know, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:50.560 what's the lack of better word responsibility. Yeah, and so 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.640 you know, the older, well, the younger version of myself 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:02.920 wouldn't probably understand what that ministryment, but the older version 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.240 and the healed version knows exactly what that is. So 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.280 it doesn't bother me because I feel like it is 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:10.439 a part of the plan. 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:11.839 No. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.520 And the thing, yeah, you clap for that. And the 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.920 thing for me is this, I'm very spiritual, you. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:19.960 Know, yes I do. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:26.400 Yeah, I love me too, But I'm a spiritual sipper. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:38.320 Oh well, I'm a spiritual dipper. He accepts us as 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.040 we all, as he does as he does. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.800 No, you know, for indication all the well, like all 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:45.520 those things there we go. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.040 Okay, So the thing is this, I can't with y'all. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.239 Y'all have a bad thing. But you know, I'm very spiritual, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.360 and my thing with you is this. And the reason 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.800 why I was so drawn to you is because I 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.280 think a lot of people in this room can relate 0:14:59.320 --> 0:14:59.560 to this. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.000 All of us knows what it feels like to have. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.840 A dream and to dream of it so much it hurts, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.400 and to dream of something so much that you sometimes 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.000 ask God, when is it going to happen? And if 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.200 it's not going to happen for me, then take it 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.360 away because the pain is too much to bear. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.960 Because I have this talent and I have this vision. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.640 Because in the Bible it talks you about your vision, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.520 like in order for you to accomplish anything in life, 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.120 God gives you a vision, right, and then you have 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.280 to be patient. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.280 And baby, you were patient. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.560 And when the show came about, we not only fell 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:47.720 in love with your personality and your voice, we fell 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.400 in love with your artistry. We fell in love the 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.000 fact that you write your own music. We fell in 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.960 love the fact that you really dedicated. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:16:02.480 Sorry, lot of people say that woman, she writes yeah 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.680 because people of God. Yeah, because the people of God 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.720 getting confused. We don't do ghostwriters. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.560 Okay, Now, I collaborate with some people, But it's so 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:11.120 funny to me. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.240 Yeah, I get credit for it. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.280 I collaborate with people. But what I'm saying, it's so 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.040 funny to me where people be like, oh my god, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:22.720 she's right, and you see me on the brass come 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.840 up with a song in two point three seconds, like 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.560 you gotta make it make sense right, that's. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.560 Song should have been a single. I mean it should 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.960 have been. You were hidden for so long and the 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.400 moment the show came out. I mean we're talking about 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:46.960 love and war. We're talking about all the way home, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.080 stay and fight. Previous girl in the world, Thank you lord. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.080 I mean, should I go on and on? I mean, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.640 the thing is about you is this. You are so 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:05.560 mother fucking talented to me that I never understood why 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.639 people felt she created us for herself when no God 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.040 hid her for so long. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.240 And I remember one thing your mother said to you. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.360 This is when you were doing Dancing with the Stars 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.640 and the Real and the show and the spinoff and 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:26.680 the album and having a newborn and going on tour. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.400 Your mother, let's talk about it. This is motivational. Mondays 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.440 to y'all. Your mother said to you that I will 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:35.840 never forget and I'll apply. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:36.679 This to my own life. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:42.479 She said, Baby, this is your season, and when it's 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:48.560 your season, God is blessing you. Do you mind taking 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.080 us back to that moment to where it was truly 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:58.679 a rowin for you because all your dreams are coming true? 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.840 But did he felt like it was at the cost 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:12.880 of your marriage and relationship? 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:24.119 Well, did it come at a cost? 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:30.240 Well? No, The truth of the matter is one hundred 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:35.400 percent right now. Feel that Vince wanted the best for me, right. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.080 I feel like he. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.439 Bust his ass for me, even when it meant he 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.720 had to put himself on the line, right, because he 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.080 really wanted to make this happen for me. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.480 But do I think that. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.600 That was a result of our relationship failing? 0:18:58.720 --> 0:18:59.960 Yes? And No. Number One is. 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.160 Very difficult to have your husband manage you. And we've 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.840 heard different stories about people in this industry who husbands 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.520 is all up in the bees wax and it just 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:17.400 doesn't work out right. It's always something, Oh, the husband 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.440 is controlling or the husband needs to be quiet, right, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.200 we say that the husband need to take a step back. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:33.480 And although Vince sort of went through that, what I 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:39.439 think we compromised was our intimate relationship. It became a 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:44.200 business relationship because we didn't know when to cut off 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.719 the intimacy and put on the business hat. Because if 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.840 we're sitting at home watching a movie, two minutes later, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.399 here we are talking about business, you know, Or if 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:58.560 we're on a date, it's a business meeting. And so, yeah, 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.840 I do think that that was one of the things 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:05.159 that was the fall of that relationship. But do I 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.720 think that was one hundred percent the issue? 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.080 Know, Bence and. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.600 I, I was twenty six years old when we started dating. 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.639 Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, so a lot of. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:19.280 People, Oh my god, she got with him for the money, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:20.480 she got her break it down and she can't have 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.680 him allowed? No, No, Actually I didn't have Logan until 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:32.240 I was thirty six. So during that time we were 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.600 basically growing up together. And sometimes when you grow up 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:40.760 with your spouse, you grow apart. And so, I mean, 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.240 my love for him when I was that young was 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:49.680 very true, very honest, and I do feel like it 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.840 was just for that time. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.160 Answer your question, it does, It absolutely does. 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.119 Because I want to say this, I agree with you 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:04.040 percent that at the end of the day, Vince wanted 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:04.359 you to be. 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.880 A star, and he did that first. But he did. 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:10.639 You said, oh, well, that was the thing he was. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.600 It was it was something to where listen like you said, 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:22.639 let me tell you all about men last. So for 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.120 all my pretty ladies and some of the guys hey 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.919 in the in the room when you are dating and 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.359 this is real talk. All the real estate agents in 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.280 the room, all of the doctors and the. 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.240 You know, I want to talk to all of you guys. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:41.359 Right when you're dating a successful man or married to one, 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:47.399 nine times out of ten he prefers you to stay 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.520 at home. And one of his ways of controlling the 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:56.480 marriage is by making sure that you have everything you need, 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.760 that you're not that that you know you need his 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.360 mond Oh I gotta. 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:02.880 Cute herse, daddy, thank you. 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.720 I'm like, oh baby, you know we get to travel 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.480 and all this stuff. And the moment you want to dream, 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.320 his whole thing is like, bitch, I just bought you 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.000 this person and you're tripping. How many girls want this life? 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.320 But that's what they do to control you. And then 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:26.000 when you want to accomplish your dreams, it sometimes makes 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.040 the man feel. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.800 Like, well, do you not need me anymore? 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:34.080 Do I not provide for you anymore? 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.320 Why are you logging for something else when you have 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.760 a good life. And that's the reason why, the reason 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:42.800 why I really want to talk to you in front 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.359 of this room too, is because I want people to 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:49.760 understand that when your INTERNTO relationship or marriage of convenience, 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.800 it's cute in the beginning, it's real cute, and it's 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.080 fun and it's fancying. We all want to go to 0:22:55.119 --> 0:23:01.480 Dubai and it's cute, but always know this comes at 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.680 a price eventually when you want your dreams to come 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:04.840 to you. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.120 And and what I will say, watching. 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:14.760 The show, he was your number one fan. And when 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:20.600 I saw the marriage end, I saw you break multiple times. 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:21.760 He had his health issues. 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.959 That's not a wife who only is with the man 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.800 for his money. I saw moments of you crying and 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:31.240 not wanting to perform to be with him. 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:35.159 When it comes to your life right now, do you 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:35.840 feel like. 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:47.240 It's hard for you without Bence? No, not at all. 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:49.480 No no no. 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.439 I get to be my own person, I get to 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:55.440 be my own boss. I get to make my own decisions, 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:59.280 I get to make my own mistakes right. And although 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:04.440 I learned a lot from Vince, I also am more 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:06.760 proud of the businesswoman. 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:07.800 And the artists that I am today. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.800 And I know that, you know, without vincing, Without his 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.760 hard work, and the truth is, without his one point 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.200 five million dollars that started the wrecks and family values, 0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:19.280 we would not be sitting here, no, for real, because 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.320 he did He started it, he funded it, He funded 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:30.760 that first season and baby yeah yeah, yeah. 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:29.919 And he did it. 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:31.920