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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, presented by Draft Kings. It has

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Speaker 1: been a busy three days here at the Castle. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens made eleven picks, including all six of their fourth

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Speaker 1: round selections on Day three. It's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: But I think this team absolutely got a whole lot better.

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Speaker 1: And the reviews, there's gonna be a lot of a's

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Speaker 1: coming in. This is gonna look like my report cards, Garrett,

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Speaker 1: nothing like your grade school report cards, nothing like yours.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I feel really good about it, Garrett. Off

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Speaker 1: the top was just your first gut impression. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the Ravens. To me, there was a few things

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Speaker 1: that stand out. One is just incredible value. Basically throughout

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Speaker 1: the draft, every single time the Ravens got a guy

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Speaker 1: and then the initial it's just it was like clockwork.

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Speaker 1: They draft a guy, whether it's Kyle Hamilton's, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Travis Jones, whoever it is, and then the analyst says,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this guy's there. You know I had him.

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Speaker 1: I had him twenty picks higher than this. This is

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Speaker 1: classic Ravens, classic Ravens. And that was basically, uh, pretty

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Speaker 1: consensus reaction on Twitter. Most of the pics of the

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Speaker 1: Ravens made. That was what the anilyst said, Nel Kuyper,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, and so I I agree with that. So

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Speaker 1: that was I just think, to me, this was great value,

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Speaker 1: not really a need focused draft, but a true best

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Speaker 1: player available value driven draft, which is I think a

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Speaker 1: throwback a little bit to the days of of Ozzie,

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Speaker 1: a best player available, you know. And that's what the

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Speaker 1: draft really is. It's setting the team up for long

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Speaker 1: term success. Right. If you start chasing needs for short

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Speaker 1: term you know, band aids, it's when you sometimes get

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Speaker 1: the biggest boo boos, right, you know. So I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, when you're in the draft, you just

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Speaker 1: have to you have to prioritize, prioritize value, while of

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Speaker 1: course being cognizant of what the needs are. But you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean, the Rave entered this draft with cornerback,

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Speaker 1: pass rusher, offensive line as probably their three biggest needs.

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Speaker 1: Now they certainly scratched it on the offensive line, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then wide receiver became a big wide receiver became

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Speaker 1: a big need with Marquis exactly of them. They didn't draft,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver. Sorry, you want to get through the

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Speaker 1: whole let me let me just if listeners are need

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Speaker 1: to recap here, because there's a lot that happened, So

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Speaker 1: let me just run through it real quick once again,

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Speaker 1: here to give you the rundown on who all the

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Speaker 1: Ravens ended up picking. So obviously it starts with Kyle

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's in the first round at number fourteen, the safety

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Speaker 1: out of Notre Dame. Great pick, all right, Then we

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Speaker 1: run through the second pick is Tyler linderbaumb first round pick, pick,

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Speaker 1: second round, David a Jaba pass rusher out of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Then it's Travis Jones, defensive tackle out of Connecticut. Then

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Speaker 1: it's Daniel Feleley in the fourth round, offensive tackle, big

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Michigan. Then we go to Alabama.

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Speaker 1: That was your mock hit your Yeah, you're celebrating, You're

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Speaker 1: running around the lounge celebrating, and then boom, I'm back

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Speaker 1: on the board. Jalen armor Davis in the fourth round,

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Speaker 1: cornerback out of Alabama. That was your best pick, I

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Speaker 1: said at the time. It was a great pick. Ravens

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Speaker 1: fit then it's Charlie Cohler, tight end out of Iowa State,

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Speaker 1: Then it's Isaiah Likely, a tight end out of Coastal Carolina.

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Speaker 1: then the final pick for the Ravens draft is Tyler Batty,

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Speaker 1: So back to my point, the Ravens needs cornerback, ed dresser,

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Speaker 1: you could say, at wide receiver with the trade of

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Speaker 1: Marquis Brown. Right, they didn't draft a wide receiver. They

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Speaker 1: week one. Okay, cornerback they didn't get one until the

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Speaker 1: Offensive line definitely check that one off. With Lindar Bambile.

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Speaker 1: Like how much worse are they than Anthony ever was

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Speaker 1: I wrote this, Eric Decasta went to his Mid Round

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Speaker 1: of your offensive line, I mean literally a monster. And

427
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremy said that he might be someone that plays

428
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: a four at a certain point. Oh my god, massive, massive.

429
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: I mean some people are just like too big to

430
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: get around, you know. I mean it's running around the

431
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: equator with this guy. I mean that's what you The

432
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 1: Ravens just kind of like that with the right tackle,

433
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: like and and it's not like he's stiff either. I

434
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: mean he's got moving I mean, this is a rugby player, right,

435
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: Like he can move his feet. It's just he's kind

436
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 1: of raw. He's just late to the he's you know,

437
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: late coming to the game. So some of the like

438
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: technique and mechanics you can get off balance and and

439
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and like, you know, the hand placement

440
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: and just the timing of playing that position when you

441
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: have to play it, it's such a That's the thing

442
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 1: with playing tackle and really any offensive line. It has

443
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: to be so consistent, right, I mean, you give up

444
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: one sack in a game you're taking how many you know,

445
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: pass blocking, snap forty something, you know, and you give

446
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: up one sack and it's a bad game, you know

447
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like it has to be super consistent.

448
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: And at this stage of his career, he just hasn't

449
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: played a lot of football in the consistency is not there,

450
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: but the talent level, the size, all that is there.

451
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: The physicality like the Ravens like, I mean, this dude's

452
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: gonna toss you one day. I'm gonna I just want

453
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: to see this dude sit on you, toss me, toss you.

454
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: And then I thought you were just talking about like,

455
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, metaphorically, he's no. Physically, I want to see

456
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: this hafter. No, it's kind of like like you look

457
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: at his his tate and it's like, oh, it's not

458
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: like the cleanest pass rush sets. But like when you're

459
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: six funds don't have to always be clean. It doesn't

460
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: have to be clean. It's just so darn big. You

461
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: gotta run all the way around him, and that takes time,

462
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: and the all of a sudden, Lamar Jackson sneaks through

463
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: the middle of that offense line is running down the field.

464
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll

465
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Speaker 1: come back and continue to discuss the fourth round and

466
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Speaker 1: the rest of the draft. Ravens fans, you want to

467
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Speaker 1: remind you that Draft Kings is a sponsor of the Lounge,

468
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Speaker 1: use the code flock to save some moula. So all right, uh,

474
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Speaker 1: let's continue here. Jalen Arbor Davis is my guy, My

475
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: guy who's a fourth round pickunds, I don't think either

476
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: of us hit it on the head. You had him

477
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: in the third in the third, yeah, well, I didn't

478
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: want to lose him, you know. Well. I also I

479
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: also should get a half a point from my Shai Sanders,

480
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: who I had in the third round pick number one hundred.

481
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: That's where I said he'd go. That's where he went. Now,

482
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens were not the team that picked him number one.

483
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals didn't because they traded for that pick. But I'm

484
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: just saying I had him in the spot. If we're

485
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: if we're handing out points, I should get at least

486
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: a half point here for telling you before the draft

487
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: started on Thursday, I have a feeling the Rams are

488
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: gonna end up with two first round picks, to which

489
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you said, I think Vegas has warped your brain. There's

490
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: no way the Rains end up with two first round picks.

491
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, but you didn't think that way. You thought

492
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: they were going to trade up. Well, they probably the

493
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: probably first. They probably would have had they not traded Hollywood.

494
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: So they end up with two first rounds picks, which

495
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: you said, there was no way that was going to happen.

496
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: Just another well, and and just to make sure we

497
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: all know, I was way closer with my first round

498
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: pick than you were. Jordan Davis is one a way buddy. Now,

499
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: we just they were celebrating because they wanted to make

500
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: sure Kyle Hamilton's got to him. So once George Davis

501
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: was off the board, they were celebrating that that they

502
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: everyone started mocking him. So then they were that everyone

503
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: was off the set. You know, they put everybody in

504
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: a different direction. They were taking Kyle Hamiltons all the way,

505
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: even if those guys are there all right, But Jalen

506
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: armor Davis, like you know, we talked about him briefly.

507
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: He really is like the story of the comparison to

508
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: Anthony Davery is like almost too good to be true,

509
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Like he even said during his press conference, like people's

510
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: tell you that we act alike, that we kind of

511
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: look alike, that we have some similar backstory. Both rand track,

512
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: both took him a while to get on the field,

513
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: both high recruits, um, you know, basically playing on the

514
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: stacked Alabama defense just you know, didn't crack the depth

515
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: chart right away because it's some injuries, but really good

516
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: player who I think is going to be a very

517
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: solid cornerback in the pros. So I mean the talent level.

518
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: Who was it? Somebody had him as their number three

519
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: cornerback overall in this draft class. Yeah, that's high number three,

520
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: So that's you know, that's ahead of Andrew Booth, that's

521
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: ahead of McDuffie. I'm guessing that's probably just behind Sauce

522
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: and Stanley whoever did have him there. But I mean,

523
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. And then to get him and then

524
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: to get him in the middle of the fourth So, um,

525
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: let's continue here. Charlie Cohler, tight end, smart guy, very

526
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: smart guy. He's you know, certainly much much smarter than you. Um,

527
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: but he Chris Simms who had him christ and Simms

528
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: had him, is the third best corner in the draft.

529
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: So so Charlie Cole are going back to him. So

530
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: last year's sixty two catches seven d fifty six yards

531
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: in his career, hundred sixty eight catches yards uh, three

532
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his career. So yeah, we're talking about yes, yeah,

533
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: big dude. See, this was the interesting thing. I didn't.

534
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: I really mis gauged the Ravens desire to up to

535
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: add tight ends. I mean, they got two of them.

536
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have any in my seven round mock, you know.

537
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: And I was really torn as to what type of

538
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: tight end they would want, how early they would invest

539
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: in a tight end all that. I really had a

540
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: tough time pinning that down because you know, you think

541
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: about it, really, what they're lacking is a blocking tight end. Right.

542
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: Eric Tomlinson was a blocking tight end who left in

543
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: free agency Nick Boyle's knee. You know, how what state

544
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: is he going to be in? Exactly? So you have

545
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, you have your receiving tight right, who's all

546
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: pro thousand yard receiver. So I didn't I didn't see

547
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: him taking two receiving guys who you read the scouting report.

548
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: I remember looking at Charlie Cohlar and saying, oh, he can't.

549
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: He's not regarded as a very he's not regarded as

550
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: very good black or now I'm not I'm not thinking

551
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: it like seriously, I I basically scratched off anybody that

552
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: they said, oh he's not much of a blocker. So

553
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have taken Isaiah either, but Isaiah likely I

554
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't know, right, But part of you also was saying, well,

555
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to get a Haydon Hurst in here

556
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: you can block and receive. And I think that's what

557
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: the Ravens, especially with I think with Cole are I

558
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: think that you know he's gotten the frame to do it,

559
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Certainly Yeah, Mark Andrews has

560
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: gotten a big become a better blocker, right, um so,

561
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: and I will add this, I think this is an

562
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: intriguing element of this whole wide receiver tight end situation

563
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: is as it stood now going into season, like a

564
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: sneaky kind of problem was that you didn't have any

565
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers who are blockers, right, and and Marquis was

566
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: part of that equation, right, But like Bateman is not

567
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: known for his blocking, proche And and Duverne are smaller

568
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: guys not known for their blocking. Right, Miles Boykin was

569
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: the best blocking wide receiver and you cut them right,

570
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: and that that made a difference in twenty nineteen with

571
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: downfield blocking to open up some of those bigger runs

572
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: and even just the twenty yard runs right, like that matters,

573
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: and and so you know where you're gonna draft the Ravens.

574
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I guess could have drafted a bigger body wide receiver

575
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: and like tried to run it back with Miles Boykin

576
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: two point oh, I guess, and hope you get more

577
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: as a receiver. But the other strategy with that was

578
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: let's take tight ends who even if they're not great

579
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: blocking tight ends, like a Nick Boyle is right, they're

580
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: probably just as good as a blocking wide receiver, you

581
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like how much worse can they be?

582
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: The like, there's a difference between blocking downfield and blocking

583
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: T J. Watt right exactly exactly totally. They're blocking a cornerback. Okay,

584
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: I'll take them, you know color he said, like he

585
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: takes a lot of prideeness downfield blocking. So I just

586
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: think that's an interesting wrinkle when you're talking about, well,

587
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: they didn't get a wide receiver, but like they added

588
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: these pass catchers who can block down field. It's kind

589
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: of like a better version of Miles Wickett. I think

590
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: that basically the Ravens philosophy is have taken one tight end,

591
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: they gotta take both. They they seriously have like you

592
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: know what, it's kind of like a buy one, get one,

593
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Like if I'm buying, if I'm one, I have to

594
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: take Dixon, Dennis Pitta, and then you had Hayden Herst

595
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and now these guys. Yep. It's it's just interesting.

596
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: So I think that like that will be kind of

597
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: a fun aspect in training camp scene who emerges there

598
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: and how they can fit in and who's getting on

599
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: the field. Um. I do find that to be something

600
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: that will be like just kind of a fun thing

601
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: to watch as who is who's going to be that

602
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: extra tight end in the mix. Assuming that Boil is

603
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: back to full strength. So then the next one and

604
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: this is probably the biggest surprise, well, the Hollywood trade

605
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest surprise of the draft Day three. Biggest

606
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: surprise three for sure it was was Jordan's stout, the

607
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: fourth round punter out of Penn State. Neither of us

608
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: had you know a punter in our mock. Yeah, it's

609
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: specifically right, that I felt like they probably just get

610
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: the undrafted route. Yeah, and so but they they mean

611
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: they wanted to. I thought they would addu putters and undrafted. Uh.

612
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: Taking one of the fourth round probably signals off the board.

613
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: First punter off the board, probably signals that Sam Cook's

614
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: great run here is coming to an end um and

615
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, which is disappointed because he's been such a

616
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: great player here for so long. And I think you

617
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: know Eric's costin John Harbor both talked about how they

618
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: almost feel like he's like a coach. You know, he's

619
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: almost like a partner with the coaching staff. I mean,

620
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: you don't usually hear that about punters and so but

621
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: but Jordan's stout clearly is the best guy on the

622
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: board for the Ravens, and it's got a huge leg.

623
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: So hang time, narrowly, Hang time, man, How much putter

624
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: tape did you want? Oh? The Harris highlights just bombs

625
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: productions on the punters. Watched them all. Jordan Stott was

626
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: number one punter on your board. Well, who's that guy?

627
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: Kicker god god kicker from Arizona. Yeah he's not He's

628
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: not a god. Oh, I don't know where I'm going.

629
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know the Kicker God either. Punk punk guys

630
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: what they call clearly didn't know. I didn't know about

631
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: punk Guy either. So no, I I did not watch

632
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: any of the punter tape. But I mean it makes sense, right,

633
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Sam is gonna be about he is gonna

634
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: be forty, um forty years old. You know, I don't

635
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: think he had uh his best season last year. Is

636
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: he still a high quality punter? Absolutely absolutely is? And

637
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: a leader? Right, and so like, if Sam Cook wants

638
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: to keep playing, Sam Cook should keep playing, and I

639
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: think he will. I think somebody would give him a job, right,

640
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: And so I hopefully what I selfishly for the Ravens

641
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: hope for is that Sam sticks around and coaches our

642
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: guy up a little bit, right. I mean, also beyond that,

643
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: it's the holding. Here's a big part of this. What's

644
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: interesting about Jordan is is a little versatility. He holds

645
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: the record for the longest field goal in Penn State history.

646
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: So you can put Justin Tuck out of his job now,

647
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, and and he handled their kickoff duties,

648
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: so like you have a backup to Justin Tucker just

649
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: in case something were to happen right, and you have

650
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: that is active on game day already, right, and you

651
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: have a guy like if you want to just save

652
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's leg a little bit, especially as he gets

653
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: a little bit older, to say Justin Tucker's old feels weird, um,

654
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: but like as he continues in his career, you want

655
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: to just take that off his plate like the Ravens

656
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: did with Matt Stover. Eventually in his career, you can

657
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: right have this kid go out there and do kickoffs

658
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: and and then Justin Tucker is not getting blasted, you know,

659
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: run down on kickoffs occasionally. I'll take that. Um. So

660
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: that adds something. Now the verse, what you're kind of

661
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: giving up a little bit is holding aspects Sam. You know,

662
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: according to Jerry Rossberg is the greatest holder of all time.

663
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: He's holder God. So you know, I say, or Jordan's

664
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Stout hadn't done as much of that, but he felt

665
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: very confident and said he actually believes it's one of

666
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: his best attributes is holding. So in the Ravens feel

667
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: confident in as well. Yeah what yeah, And obviously they're

668
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna work with that. And I really have faith in

669
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens Special teams operation like last year when they

670
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: moved on from Morgan Cox. It was kind of a

671
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: similar thing where I was like, you know, this guy

672
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: has been a legend and and then Nick Moore came

673
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: in and didn't miss a beat, you know, and he

674
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: was great all season long. So, um, a bit of

675
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: a surprising pick, but I do think it's one that

676
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: makes sense. So then it's Isaiah Likely. We talked about

677
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: him already. Uh. The final pick in the fourth round

678
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: for the Ravens the Marian Williams cornerback at of Houston,

679
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: five ft ten pounds. I know you had a chance

680
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: to talk with him on the phone soon after the

681
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: pick was made. What were your impressions after catching up them? Yeah,

682
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: this is Tavon young man. It's dude, is Tavon young

683
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: same kind of scrappy attitude. Yes, did not grew up

684
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: in Miami like around Miami Beach. Well, I grew up

685
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: in Miami. Uh, got a late start to football. Didn't

686
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: play his first snap of organized football until his junior

687
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: year of high school. You know why he's playing streetball?

688
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: Seriously he was. He was just like, Yeah, I was

689
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: just playing on the street organized football. I was playing

690
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: on the street. I was like that's kind of cool,

691
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: um and so like it wasn't like he like found

692
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: football late. It was just like he was just that

693
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: kind of dude and so um, you know, he got

694
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of a later start. Was a zero

695
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: star recruit, was like not offered. Uh, so he went

696
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: the Juco route and Juco got his hands on a

697
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: lot of passes. I think seventeen pass breakups and like

698
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: seventy seven picks um. So like really broke out in

699
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: junior college. Was then one of the seven picks seventeen

700
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: pass breakups, um, and so he was one of the

701
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: bigger recruits you know for transfers UM and then went

702
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: and was just like, you know, he's got good feet,

703
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: quick guy, can stick to receivers, physical dog, not afraid

704
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: to stick his nose in the pile, hit somebody like

705
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: press press kind of guy likes to be physical. The

706
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, dude screams raven, scrappy. I think Eric

707
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: cost even used the word scrappy, right. Feisty I think

708
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: he said feisty and then again can be used for

709
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: tape on young tail. It's just part of it's part

710
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: of the trend exactly. You got the Anthony favorite there

711
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: look alikes man. Yeah. So then the final pit for

712
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the Ravens is Tyler Batty, sixth round running back out

713
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: of Missouri, five for eight hundred ninety seven pounds. A

714
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: lot of team captains, oftentimes the Ravens had a lot

715
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: of team acceptance. And that's the case, Kylie. Uh, Kyle

716
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Hamilton's was a team captain. Uh lender bomb. You know,

717
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 1: he was a team had to have been to Mary

718
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: and Williams was the team captain. We could go through

719
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: a bunch of these guys with team captains. Tyler bad

720
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: He's another one. Um. But yeah, he put up big

721
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: numbers numbers. Yeah, you're like, oh, man, like this guy's

722
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: playing the SEC. He put up monster numbers. And the

723
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: nice thing I like about him is that, Uh, I

724
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: was really struggling with what kind of running back to

725
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens take. You know, it was it was the

726
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: bigger body guy who's between the tackles runner or was

727
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: it more of a receiver? These guys both yes, sixteen

728
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: hundred receiving a rushing yards and three D and thirty

729
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: receiving yards. So on. How many catches a number of

730
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: catches fifty four catches last year, right, so four receiving

731
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns us Man, Yeah, I mean he's putt and then

732
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: fourteen rushing touchdowns Like this guy put up really big

733
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: numbers in Missouri, so like he's gonna have a chance

734
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: to get some, you know, depending on what happens with

735
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: these running backs. I think certainly Justice Hill, you know,

736
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: he'll be competing with Justice Hill for the number three

737
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: running back spot. Um, and then it remains we've seen

738
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, do the Ravens feel like, Okay, this is

739
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: good enough insurance for JK and gus or do we

740
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: still need to add a veteran? Right the spots that

741
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: I think they could still add a veteran. Would not

742
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: prised me if they were to sign a wide receiver, though,

743
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: I honestly think that they're just higher on their guys

744
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: than like people think, you know, I mean, and they

745
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: feel good about the tight ends being I mean, first

746
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: of all, wide receiver one for this team is really

747
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. It's that's he's the top receiving to Mark

748
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 1: Andrews and Bateman or yes, but yes, yes, it's your point. Yeah,

749
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Like he like Andrews is gonna lead the team receiving ards,

750
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: I expect again yere so and now he's got these

751
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: two young guys, Like it's like, all right, I'm just

752
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: basically going to be a receiver now, yeah, you know,

753
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: so he look they I agree, maybe they had a receiver,

754
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's like I don't think it's

755
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: like I would say. I think they're more likely to

756
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: add a pass rusher like bring Justin Houston back than

757
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: they are to bring in a veteran spend a bunch

758
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: of money on a wide receiver. I completely agree, and

759
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: a wide receiver too. You know, I was saying, hey,

760
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: they take George Pickens in the third I won't be

761
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: sad about it, right, Like you could have taken a

762
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver early to play Marquis, right, But once you

763
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: get beyond that, like if you're not taking George Pickens

764
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: or a third round pick, an earlier third round pick,

765
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: what are you really getting? Right? Like you're getting another

766
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: you're getting Tyland Wallace. And last year was exactly like exactly,

767
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: so I don't think the Ravens have a They didn't

768
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: have a depth wider. They still don't have a depth

769
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: problem at wide receiver. It was just whether you felt

770
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: like you needed that top end guy to put up

771
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: big numbers, right, But if you weren't going to like

772
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: spend it earlier picking that, you probably shouldn't expect big

773
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: numbers anyway. So it doesn't really matter that they didn't

774
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: take one in the end because you have the depth.

775
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Would you rather? They really are still high on Tyland Wallace?

776
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: And so it's like, would you rather take a fourth

777
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: round guy to compete with Tyland Wallace and paps away

778
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: from him exactly or would you just rather give Tylan

779
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Wallace the opportunity? I completely agree, and that's what they're

780
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: gonna do. Now. Maybe they still had a bet, and

781
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't I wouldn't hate that if it's the

782
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: right guy. But I don't think that it's a guarantee.

783
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Like maybe again maybe Houston, maybe they look for a

784
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: running back um, but like, I don't know. Do you

785
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: think there's any move that it's like totally imminent, like, oh,

786
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: this is gonna be any day. You know that they're

787
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: going to add a player at exposition? I think it's

788
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. I think you have to. I mean,

789
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: you didn't come out, you have tias bows are now

790
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 1: coming off the Achilles job. Obviously the Achilles. You have

791
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: to get an outside linebacker. I think I have to.

792
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: So there you go. Yeah, um alright, So my final

793
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: thoughts on the draft. I just think I think that

794
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one where a lot of people

795
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: are saying the Ravens just had a great weekend, and

796
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Like, they just got a ton

797
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: of value. They got guys who I think are going

798
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: to be impact players this year. Yeah, this year, and

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: I think really set themselves up well for the long term. Yeah,

800
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens had to nail this draft. I think that

801
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: this is something that we didn't talk a lot about.

802
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: I asked you ortis about it. Um, but this is

803
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: a very important draft. You know, you're you're you have

804
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback that's gonna start eating bigger and bigger slices

805
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: of the salary cap pie. So you need some a

806
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: cheap workforce, a cheap and talented workforce around him, right,

807
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: and that comes by virtue of guys in the rookie contracts.

808
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: And you're in the division that is going to be

809
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: very very tough. You're coming off a fourth place finish

810
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: in that vision. Add it all up and the Ravens

811
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: needed to restock, and you had a lot of holes

812
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: to fill in this draft, a lot of needs. So

813
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: they really had to hit it, and I think they

814
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: did in terms of the immediate you know what you have,

815
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: But more importantly, it was just like just getting a

816
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: lot of really good players, because that's what you're gonna

817
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: need once you're paying your quarterback. You need a lot

818
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: of good players to be a really good team to

819
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: overcome you know, the Browns and Steelers and the Bengals

820
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: and the talent that they have to be to run

821
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: with those big dogs. You just need a lot of

822
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: really good players. And they got a bunch of really

823
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: good players. You got a bunch of them. So that's

824
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: it for us. We will have the chance to catch up,

825
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: hopefully with at the cost of this week. We're hoping

826
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: to talk with him to kind of recap all of

827
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: this once all of us have had a minute to breathe,

828
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: uh and kind of process all of this. So that's

829
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: hopefully on the agenda for later this week. Thank you

830
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: so much for listening. We'll talk with you against him