1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. Now 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: your hosts Votch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Today is Thursday February twenty six, twenty twenty six, and 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: we are live from Radio Row in Indianapolis, Indiana. We 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: are fifty six days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Welcome into the Draft Show presented by Miller Light, the 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. And we've got the 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: entire Draft Show crew that is on site here in 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Indye for the NFL scatting combine on hand today with 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: Tommy Yarrish, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt. 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Bobby. Welcome back, sir. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: I know it's been a busy week for you and 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: you guys are killing in on Radio Row with the 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: Sean and r J crew and on one O five 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: three the Fan. 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 4: But glad to have you back on the show. Thank you. 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was. I just woke up. I was I 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 5: was sleeping. Uh And now I'm here and I'm ready 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: and I'm ready to go. You just woke up, Yeah, 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 5: just woke up. It's been a like, it's been a 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 5: long it's been a long how long we've been here? 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Three days? 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 5: Something like that, three days. It's been a long three 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 5: days so far. But it's good. This is this is 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 5: what you live for. 32 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 4: Who you're drafting a twelve, you've already figured it out. 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: Tlew we're running. Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna tell everybody just 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 5: leave them alone, treat safeties like you've treated him for 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: the last decade. Just don't pick them, and then let 36 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 5: us let's grab him at twelve. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Man, I would love that if it could happen, that 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: would be the pipe dream. But there's no way to 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: to even I. 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 4: Don't know if there's even a way to dream about 41 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: that at the moment. 42 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 5: Bo is not here right now. So can I ask 43 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: a question? 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. So that was really it was a. 45 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 5: Spot on you mentioning, you mentioning that you know who 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: you're taking at twelve, and then who you running up there? 47 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: Taket So we were. We interviewed Will McLay on the 48 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 5: fan this morning. I know you guys interview him on 49 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 5: das sky was dot com too. I don't believe Nick 50 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 5: interviewed him, but we did. So we had so no, 51 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 5: we we had talked about I was talking with John 52 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: Mishoda and Will had said. We said, what do we 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 5: most frequently get wrong? That was one of the questions 54 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: for Will, and Will had said, the thing that most 55 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 5: frequently gets wrong is like, you guys don't see fit 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: like you can go, okay, that's nice, that that's a 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 5: position that fits a need, but that unless you really 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: know the nuts and bolts, who don't know why that 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 5: player just doesn't jibe with what we're trying to do here. 60 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 5: You have to know all the specifics. And so he's like, 61 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 5: that's what you miss a lot of times whenever you're 62 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 5: trying to mix a match. And John said when he 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 5: said that, I was immediately trying to think, like, well, 64 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: he also said that he'll look at the mock drafts 65 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 5: sometimes ago y'all are wrong, y'all are missing this that 66 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: would never happened. So he's like, the first thing I 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 5: thought was how frequently I've seen Monsieur de Layne mock 68 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 5: to the Cowboys, and he's like, are we missing the 69 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: fit there? Of like, he's not a typical Will McLay 70 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 5: corner like in terms of his length and everything else. 71 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: And so that made me think when he's saying that, 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: who pops into your head at twelve? When Will says you, 73 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 5: guys just sometimes will assign a player, you'll get it 74 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: right in that look, and you just you're missing the fit. 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 5: That's why you guys don't understand that wouldn't happen? Who 76 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 5: like pops into your head like that? 77 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 6: In this draft. 78 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: I've got a name outside of Caleb Downs that I 79 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: would love to throw out there but don't. 80 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: Want to get yourn. No, he would, but. 81 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: I guess I would say would not would not fit, 82 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 5: would not fit. He said, that's what we normally miss 83 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 5: his fit. I mean it could flip the other way too, if, like, 84 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: you guys aren't talking about this guy, you don't understand 85 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 5: how good a fit he is for me. 86 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: I think Sonny Styles is such a good fit that 87 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: I think and I mocked him in my second mock 88 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: draft that we're using on the Blitz this week, but 89 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I I can't not see Sonny styles as a part 90 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: of this defense in this team. I just think he's 91 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: too good of a fit at the second level. But 92 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: now that I see what you're saying, switching like a lot. 93 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: Of people may not mock Keldrick Falk and they may go, 94 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: you don't saying he's a good fit for what we're doing. Yeah, 95 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: And so that it could flip either way. 96 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: What about Jermal McCoy from the end, we got to 97 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: talk to the secondary player, some of the secondary players 98 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: today at the podiums, he's not working out, there's the 99 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: injury history. Would that classify him as a non fit? 100 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: I mean that that could be something that if they 101 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 5: felt like Revel, if Revel didn't go the way they 102 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 5: wanted to and they just went, you know what, we 103 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: don't want to do like a red shirt guy or 104 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: a guy who's coming off of red shirt ear, that 105 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: may be it. And so it's more just like what 106 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: are the fits we're missing potentially that you know we're 107 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: we're wrongly ascribing that player too. Because another guy we 108 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: were just talking before the show, Rubin Bain, with arms 109 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: that are on the smaller side, they typically have not 110 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: drafted a lot of edge rushers who are smaller armed 111 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 5: edge guys either. 112 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 7: The same excuse me, gosh, dank. Same could be said 113 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 7: for Texas A and m edge cashus Hal. Yeah, both 114 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 7: of them came in with the shortest arm link in 115 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 7: the edge group. 116 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: Today. 117 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 7: If Casius Howel is drafted, which he will be, he'll 118 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: have the shortest arms of any player in the NFL 119 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 7: since nineteen ninety nine, whoa had thirty and one eighth inch. 120 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: Any like any edge rusher draft period? Correct? Wow, Yeah, 121 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: that's tough since ninety nine. 122 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's insane. 123 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's t rex arms like on a 124 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: on a another level. 125 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: That's that's insane. 126 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Those are arm links that generally are not 127 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: like that'll get you disqualified on some corner boards. 128 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 7: Well real, yeah, And it's it's the juxtaposition of he 129 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 7: was the SEC defensive player of the Year this last 130 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 7: season and he knows how to use that length. Even 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 7: though sometimes it's not to his advantage, he has been 132 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 7: able to show that, you know, his shorter arms can 133 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 7: win him some instances. It's it's less about with the 134 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 7: shorter arm guys and the long arm offensive tackles, and 135 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 7: that's what you really worry about when they're coming into 136 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 7: the league, right, it's more so how they get under 137 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 7: those long arms, and it's they they have to be 138 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 7: so good at countering they can't really attack. But you 139 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 7: can find some guys who are so good at countering 140 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 7: that it would have been better had they had this 141 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 7: short arms than if they had the longer ones. And 142 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 7: you know John Owning of PFF we get into that 143 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 7: quite a bit as well, and that's that he doesn't 144 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 7: see arm linked as as a negative at all. It's 145 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 7: how you use your length, whether it's long arms or 146 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 7: short arms. We see that with Ruben Baning, we see 147 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 7: that with cash as how that these guys are able 148 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 7: to kind of get under. It's the Mike Tyson theory, right, 149 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 7: because Mike Tyson didn't have the longest reach in the world, 150 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 7: but he was able to get under these guys when 151 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 7: they were they were coming across because there's so much 152 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 7: bandwidth that you have to cover so or if you 153 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 7: can get under and disrupt it, then you can come 154 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 7: under and make it happen. And so that's it's getting 155 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 7: into the nuances of pass rush here. But that's why 156 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 7: these Howls and Baines will still probably go first round 157 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 7: because you see that on tape down. 158 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 8: I feel like I see it more so with Baine 159 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 8: than I do with Howell. Yeah, I haven't been very 160 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 8: high on Howel since the jump, and I think, like sure, 161 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 8: when he was on, he was on this year and 162 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 8: and SC Defensive Player of the Year absolutely deserved. I'm 163 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 8: not saying he didn't, but there were one too many 164 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 8: instances where those bigger, long armed would just get a 165 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 8: hold of them and completely take advantage of him. And 166 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 8: that could happen on a week to week basis in 167 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 8: the NFL. So if that's what you're banking on a 168 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 8: first round pick to come in and have that kind 169 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 8: of production where you're gonna have to find a way 170 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 8: to get him in a position to where he can 171 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 8: have the advantage and not necessarily have that weakness sought 172 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 8: after if you're an offense. 173 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: So that's why it's tough for me. 174 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 8: And I mean you can still say that it's probably 175 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 8: not the best thing for Bain either. 176 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that. 177 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 8: Bain's arms aren't much longer, but I think the big 178 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 8: difference there is he's much bigger and much stronger and 179 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 8: fuller in his frame, and he uses the counter moves 180 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 8: and the strength to make up for it. So that's 181 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 8: why you probably still see him go pretty high. 182 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: Dane's talked about this a little bit too. I know 183 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: it's been and it's been kicked around by a few 184 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: different people, but that arm length on Bain is just 185 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: it's so small for some teams that, like Dane was 186 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 5: saying earlier today that there are just some teams that 187 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 5: would they say he's a three technique. There's just no 188 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: way you could play it like that. Some teams just 189 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 5: think there's no way you can play Ruben bayin at edge. 190 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: He would have to be a three technique at the 191 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: next level. 192 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 7: How they came in at two sixty three, six two 193 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 7: and six eighths today, so he doesn't necessarily have the 194 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 7: three tech size And so yeah, that's gonna be an 195 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 7: interesting project for whoever does draft him. Is like, Okay, 196 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 7: how can we maximize his traits and his athleticism but 197 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 7: also hide his physical. 198 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 6: Limitations at the same time, if that makes sense. 199 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: And I think it's interesting in this draft as a whole, 200 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: because we've talked about it before. 201 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: The guys who have warts. 202 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: In the first round and there's usually a cutoff of 203 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: let's say ten to fifteen in each draft class where 204 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: you feel really really confident about these eight to fifteen players, 205 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: but there's a couple of warts on the back end 206 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: of guys that are going to be first round picks. 207 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: I think we're looking at this draft specifically, and outside 208 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: of maybe the number one overall pick, it's a hodgepodge 209 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: of whatever you could see happening from two onward. Even 210 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: we were talking with some of the media members from 211 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals today. Danny Shrek, one of the former 212 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys dot Com reporters. She asked us, She said, 213 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: who do you think we're taking at three? And I 214 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: looked at her and said, aren't you supposed to know 215 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: what that conversation is because you're in the building there, 216 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: but they don't know what's happening at three. She said, 217 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: it could go offensive line, it could go edge rusher. 218 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: They could maybe talk about one of these linebackers if 219 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: they really feel good about it there. With that being said, 220 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: is this a draft that's different across the board because 221 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: of the amount of warts that you see on these 222 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: high level first round prospects than maybe years past. 223 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 7: I think there's gonna be a lot of parody, and 224 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 7: this first round is gonna be really wonky. I just 225 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 7: look at some of these respected mock drafters that you 226 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 7: see around the space, whether it be Melchiper, Daniel Jeremiah, 227 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 7: Dane Brugler. I mean, there's so many that you can 228 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 7: pick from. They are all over the place. After pick one, 229 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 7: pick one, it seems to be the only thing with 230 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 7: any sort of finality at this point. I mean, we 231 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 7: learned a little bit more today about the New York 232 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 7: Jets and what they're they're going to be trying to 233 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 7: do at pick number two when they traded away Jermaine 234 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 7: Johnson and acquired to Andre Sweat. But they will probably 235 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 7: be hunting down at either an off ball linebacker or 236 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 7: an edge I think RVL Reas makes a lot of 237 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 7: sense for them at two, but they could also go 238 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 7: Caleb Downs. 239 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 6: They could also go David Bailey. 240 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 7: I mean, there's a lot of options for the Jets 241 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 7: as well. This top ten it's gonna be really fluid, 242 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 7: and I think if you're looking at it from a 243 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 7: Cowboys standpoint, that's probably the best case scenario, because yes, 244 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 7: it could hurt. You could because you could be wiped 245 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 7: out at twelve, but it also could heavily benefit you 246 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 7: to where you look up at twelve and you're like, 247 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 7: wait a, say monsort of lanes here, ruined Baines here, 248 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 7: Like how did this happen? You can really make that work? 249 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: Is this a draft though? Where you feel like obviously 250 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: you have people you like like like Downs is somebody 251 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: everybody likes, people love rvel Rees like guys like that, 252 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 5: and you're sitting there. I think the two most common 253 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: names we hear of people talking about, man, that'd be 254 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 5: great if they could get there, We don't know if 255 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 5: they will, it have been Caleb Downs in Sunny Styles 256 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: are the two most frequent that year. But like when 257 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: you say wipeout, it does feel like there's so much 258 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: parody here that I don't know that there's any sort 259 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 5: of classic wipeout scenario that they could even be faced 260 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: with at twelve, because I think you could you could 261 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: lose out on Bay, or you could lose out on 262 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 5: on Downs, you could lose out on Styles, you could 263 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: have you let you lose out on your top guys. 264 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: But like last year, like McMillan is who you wanted, 265 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: but like, I don't know that you felt like when 266 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: you got down there, you were going to be wipe 267 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 5: You always feel you felt like a booker or somebody's 268 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: gonna fall down around here where it's like that's somebody 269 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: would still be happy with that. We're gonna be able 270 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: to get here. 271 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think, well's let's count of up, Sonny Styles, 272 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: Caleb Downs, these are all guys that you would be 273 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 7: comfortable taking at twelve. Absolutely, let's run throw it really quick, 274 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 7: Caleb Downs, Sunny Styles, Rvel Reese, Ruben Bain, David Bailey, 275 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 7: Monsieur de Layne. 276 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: Who else we. 277 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 4: Got you could throw? 278 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean strong six right there? 279 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, jem My Love. 280 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: I'm looking at it from a defense, I know, but 281 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 7: I mean if you're talking about if you're talking about eleven. 282 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: Go ahead of you. 283 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, let's throw in Jeremiah Love as well. And 284 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 7: then you have Fernando Mendoza, who's gonna go one. That's eight, 285 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 7: and then you still have three other spots in there. 286 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 7: I think there's a realistic scenario where it is quote 287 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 7: unquote wiped out. I just it depends on how fluid 288 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 7: things get, and you're rooting for these teams above you 289 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 7: to start taking some offensive guys. 290 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: You need both wide receivers, Youree Tate and Tyson. Yeah, 291 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: you could throw Limon in there too. Uh, you could 292 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: throw all those guys into the fold. You would love 293 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: to see Jeremiah Love at least either on the board 294 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 3: for you at twelve. 295 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: Or going early. 296 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: I think either one of those is a scenario where 297 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: if you're a fan of the Cowboys, you could be 298 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: okay with. 299 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 5: Want somebody to fall in love with ty Simpson exactly. 300 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: Ty Simpson needs to hop up there and he is 301 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: gonna throw this week. So that's something significant to keep 302 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: an eye on. But which you just counted up how 303 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 3: many ven eight? 304 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 5: You're up to eight, okay, and then you've got still 305 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 5: you got the two tackles, which I'm not saying that 306 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 5: would take, but I'm saying you've got two offensive linemen 307 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 5: that are probably gonna go before. 308 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 7: You Spitzer Fano out of Utah, Francis mal and go 309 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 7: out of Miami. 310 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then at that point you're talking about now 311 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: you're ten picks into this, and that's obviously there's concerns 312 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: about Jermad McCoy, who's not gonna work out over this. 313 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 5: But like I mean, McCoy is considered a higher talent, Like, 314 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 5: I think there's just enough secondary guys that they're interested 315 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: in that there's somebody there that all right, maybe it 316 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: wasn't our top choice here, but we've got because they've 317 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 5: run into some classic wipeouts before where it's like there's 318 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: no one really here we want anymore. 319 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I worry about a scenario where the phone 320 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 7: lines aren't on and you're forced to make a pick 321 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 7: like Colton Hood or a German McCoy, or maybe even 322 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 7: swinging already for some of those second tier edge rushers, 323 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 7: whether it be you know, a cash Is Howel or 324 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 7: even a Josh Josephs, who I'm starting to really grow 325 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 7: on out of Tennessee. 326 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 6: I just worry that you end up in a situation 327 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 6: where you're really reaching there. 328 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 5: Who's y'all's highest graded receiver? I have Tyson Carnal Tate, 329 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: Tate Tate. Okay, so what we just ran through there, 330 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 5: In that scenario where all those guys win, your highest 331 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 5: graded receiver's probably there. Would you just say, well, like 332 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: I can't devote resources to that, or you say it's 333 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 5: a three receiver league, m. 334 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: You have you're hoping the phone. 335 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: You you've got like at this point. But if you 336 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 5: I imagine, if you've tagged pickings, he's not done by 337 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 5: that point. I think that drags into the summer. 338 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 7: If he's tagged, it allows the opportunity to to trade pickings. 339 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: So that's what I mean. You would be able to 340 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 5: at that point go, he's not a We've got him tagged, 341 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: but it's not done. Let's let's just make this pick 342 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: and then either send the tag, make a trade, do whatever. Yeah. 343 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could do a couple of those options. 344 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: And I think offensive players, We've talked about this so 345 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: many times before, where we've been solidified defense. They're going 346 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: to invest in defense, They're going to do this, they're 347 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: gonna do that, and then all of a sudden we 348 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: get to draft day and it ends up being an 349 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: offensive player. I think last year showed that was a possibility. 350 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: I know we were looking at wide receiver, wide receiver, 351 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: wide receiver, you end up as an offensive lineman. So 352 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: definitely something to keep an eye on as we continue 353 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: forward into the draft process. When we can, I'm back 354 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: on the Draft show. We're going to attack some twitter 355 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: on the twenty. 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I'm Kyle 408 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeoman's time now for some Twitter. 409 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 5: Like the from I thought that was the drop job Thomas. 410 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Very nice, so thank you guys, Tommy wonderful draft. 411 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: I don't know if he edits it in or not 412 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: or just roll with Tommy's but I'm glad we did it. 413 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: Stack them on top of each other. 414 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: Twitter on the twenty Josh wants to know there's a 415 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: lot of Armyson Thomas draft high starting to heat up 416 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: a little bit. 417 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: The edge rusher out of Oklahoma. 418 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: Do you feel like he is the best fit for 419 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Dallas as an outside linebacker or maybe Hal. 420 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: Has that spot. 421 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: We just talked about how a little bit and how 422 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: that could be a non fit because of the arm length. 423 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: But does arm Mason Thomas fit the bill well. 424 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 8: He certainly has longer arms than the other two. He 425 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 8: came in at thirty one and five as of an 426 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 8: inch arm length seventy eight and one eighth of an 427 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 8: inch wingspan uh six two two forty one, So yeah, 428 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 8: he would be a from a physical standpoint, he probably 429 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 8: fits that better than the other two. But obviously I 430 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 8: would I would still take Bain instead of our Mason Thomas, 431 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 8: but I would take ar Mason Thomas before. 432 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: Cash is Howl. 433 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 8: I've talked a lot about how you know this guy's 434 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 8: This guy's valuable trait for me is how he's able 435 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 8: to close games. 436 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: He comes up big in the biggest moments. 437 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 8: He gets the timely sack when Oklahoma needed it, super 438 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 8: quick off the edge. He's got great bend. The six 439 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 8: to two part is probably what worries some people. He's 440 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 8: not the tallest guy, but I think he makes up 441 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 8: for it with with speed and the rush techniques that 442 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 8: he uses. 443 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: He's able to switch it up, set guys up. 444 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 8: So I don't know if he would be the ideal 445 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 8: fit if we're talking at twelve, but twenty, if you're 446 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 8: in a scenario like we were talking about in the 447 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 8: last segment where you're starting to look around and not 448 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 8: a lot of the guys that you were hoping were 449 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 8: there are there. That's a guy that I could definitely 450 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 8: see being a twenty pick. 451 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 7: I it's interesting that you mentioned him being able to 452 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: close games because last year on the Draft Show and 453 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 7: on Day three, we get all those scout interviews and 454 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 7: it's really valuable insight that we get. And one thing 455 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 7: that we asked when we asked about Donovan as Arak 456 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 7: who I forget who mentioned it, but he had said 457 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 7: that you saw Donovan as a rock who show up 458 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 7: late fourth quarters of games to. 459 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 6: Close them out. 460 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 7: So they pay attention to those things, and that's certainly 461 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 7: a plus for a guy like our Mason Thomas Do. 462 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean he's a really nice, well rounded 463 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: edge rusher, Like I mean, I think you see a 464 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: guy who absolutely has some explosiveness off the line scrimmage, 465 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: a guy who has a pass rush plan, has tools, 466 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 5: knows that he's a lot of these guys they get 467 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: into the NFL a's edge rushers and they are just 468 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: they win on their athleticism and they win on just 469 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 5: being better than the guy across from them. Armison Thomas 470 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: is like coming to the league, like he's got some 471 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 5: tools that he knows how to use when he's rushing 472 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 5: the past. But that's all good. I think he's good 473 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 5: at disengaging from blocks, making plays in the run game. 474 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: That's all positive. It's not always great, but he does 475 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: have some experience dropping into coverage a little bit. And 476 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 5: what we know from some of the Fangio system stuff 477 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: which you assume Christian Parker is gonna borrow from, is 478 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: being a versatile, like I mean, three part playmaker at 479 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 5: the edg Rresser, being able to rush the pass or 480 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 5: play against the run and occasionally do some stuff and coverage. 481 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 5: So I think in that sense, if you're talking fit 482 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 5: and all these other things that you're wanting to look 483 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: at for Dallas picure, yeah, he could be somebody who 484 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: makes some sense for Dallas along the way. 485 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: What he makes Since at twelve at all with the hypers, 486 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: it's still kind of well, that's too high. 487 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 5: It'd be twenty for me or traded back from two. 488 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: I'm with Bobby, he's twenty three overall for me at 489 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: the moment. 490 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: Which if he ends up at twenty, that's solid value. 491 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: That would be good. You could be okay with that. 492 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 4: Where do you feel like you land on that? 493 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, twenties, no doubt. 494 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 495 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: Point after Football wants to know which three non prolific 496 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: draft prospects do you think will stand out at the 497 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 3: combine and what do you feel like it'll be due 498 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: to measurables three cone drill, forty times, et cetera. Be 499 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: I guess non prolific draft prospects. That's probably looking into 500 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: Day three because okay, let's talk about the not top 501 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: end names that we've mentioned as combine standouts. 502 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 4: But who's going to show up and make an impact? 503 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 504 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 7: Looking at Demani Jackson out of Alabama, He's a guy 505 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 7: who has had an interesting career. Started at USC, finished 506 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 7: up in Alabama, started each the last two seasons potentially 507 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 7: three with the Crimson Tide. Can run like a deer 508 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: position a corner corner, can run like a deer. But 509 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 7: there's going to be some questions about, you know, his 510 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 7: positional hip fluidity. I mean, he's kind of stiff in movement, 511 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 7: more of a straight line type of guy. 512 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 6: But I wonder how he looks in the positional drills. 513 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 7: But if we're looking at it from a combine standpoint 514 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 7: and a testing standpoint. Demani Jackson's gonna be a guy 515 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 7: that gets in there. A few receivers. I mean, we've 516 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 7: talked about Brendan Thompson out Mississippi State, Barryon Brown out 517 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 7: of LSU, previously of Kentucky, Kendrick Law as well. There's 518 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 7: going to be, uh, there's gonna be a lot of 519 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: receivers that make some money. I'm trying to think there's 520 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 7: a running back that I've been keeping an eye on 521 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 7: here for this week, and it's blinking for me right 522 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 7: now if y'all keep going off. 523 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I think guys that are you talking about classically, 524 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: I think whenever people talk about the comment it's like, oh, 525 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 5: who like really pops with forty speed or who comes 526 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: in here with just insane measurables? I think some guy 527 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: who like a lot of people. And it's already kind 528 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: of building this morning a little bit when you've seen 529 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 5: some of the d line measuring. Caleb Banks is just 530 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: such a massive human being and somebodysures at six six 531 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: and like three I can't remember. I think it was 532 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: like three thirty five or something, as with like massive arms. 533 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: He's he looks like a a proto type defensive tackle, 534 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 5: like your dream defensive tackle. And then I think, you know, 535 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 5: Malik Benson Oregon is gonna run really fast, Sackerry Branch 536 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 5: could run really fast from Georgia. Like those are guys 537 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 5: who stand out. 538 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 8: I think, So Banks is go ahead, go ahead, you 539 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 8: got it, go Banks sixty six three twenty seven ten 540 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 8: seven inch hands, uh thirty five inch arm, eighty five 541 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 8: and three quarter wingspan. 542 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 5: That is a's giant. 543 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 8: And so here's the percentiles. Height as ninety eighth, percentile, 544 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 8: waits eighty ninth percentile, hand ninety fourth, arm ninety fourth, 545 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 8: and wingspan is ninety ninth. It's the longest of the 546 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 8: combine for defensive tackle since nineteen ninety nine. 547 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: Okay, so kind of going on that, uh huh? 548 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: Is that enough to immediately raise his stop? Because for me, 549 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: that's significant that that does. That gives you something that 550 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: nobody else in the league has. 551 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: So so I agree that it's it makes you look 552 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 5: up and go like, okay, but like when you watch 553 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 5: the tape, it's like, why don't you play that? 554 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: Such say, why show up on the tape? 555 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 5: But that and that's something that one of the first 556 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 5: questions brought us asked this morning to Will was he 557 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: was like, what gets a general manager in trouble? What 558 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: gets somebody in trouble? And they're drafting, and Will spat 559 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 5: at einstantly he said, traits. He said, traits gets you 560 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 5: in trouble. 561 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: Wow. 562 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 5: Now, it doesn't mean they're they're gonna pass it on 563 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 5: them or that they don't want him. They do want them, 564 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: but that that can be that's I think when he 565 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 5: says traits can get you in trouble, I think he's 566 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: talking about somebody like Caleb Banks. 567 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, because it's not just like there's so many guys 568 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 8: that have the traits physically, maybe not to that degree, 569 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 8: but if you don't have the tape, then the traits 570 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 8: don't matter as much. Right, Like, if you don't have 571 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 8: the technique, if you don't have what you need, and 572 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 8: that's all things you can teach, right, you can't teach size, 573 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 8: you can't teach speed, you. 574 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: Can't teach any of that stuff. 575 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 8: But if if you don't have the ability to learn 576 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 8: and develop or you have a long runway, then exactly 577 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 8: you're gonna you're gonna get a general manager fired. So 578 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 8: Banks is a guy that I think is going to 579 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 8: need some sharpening, and somebody's gonna have to be patient 580 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 8: with his process because if it does pay off. 581 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: Then you know who knows what his stealing is gonna be. 582 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 7: The two running backs, DeMont Clayborn out of Wake Forest 583 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 7: and Jamari Taylor, who's a shrine bogu out of Virginia. 584 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 7: Those are gonna be two guys to keep an eye 585 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 7: on as far as testing goes this week. You think 586 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 7: they're day three, I think go day two, Okay, I 587 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 7: think he could. But Jamary Taylor, yeah, probably day three, gotcha. 588 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 7: But I love Jamary Taylor. That's he's starting to become 589 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 7: my monong guy from last year. I'm I'm a big 590 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 7: Jamary Taylor guy. 591 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: I had I have Claiborne as my number one player 592 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: in the fourth round currently that I've watched through so far. 593 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: So I think, like you said, he's right on that 594 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: COSPA ban day two, day three, good player and he's yeah, 595 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: like you said, he's fast. He's only one ninety five 596 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: though we'll see what he weighs out here. 597 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 7: I think he's Emma Johnson out of Nebraska will probably 598 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 7: test really well too. 599 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 6: He's got awesome tape. 600 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm a huge Imma Johnson. Yeah. 601 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 7: If you're looking for some fun running back tape, which 602 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: I'm a running back tape, Sicico it's it's Emma Johnson 603 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 7: on a Nebraska. 604 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 6: He's got some of the most fun tape in this 605 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 6: Clay who was. 606 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: The Miami running back a couple of years ago that 607 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: you loved. 608 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: Uh, Damian Martinez Martin. 609 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 7: But if we were talking, like, some of the most 610 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 7: fun tape I had watching last year was Kyle Mnung 611 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 7: guy no doubt and. 612 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 5: Then Lair out of UC Davis. 613 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 7: Those were and Laye Larrison would have made the fifty 614 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 7: three men roster in New England if he didn't get 615 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 7: hurt in camp. I just want that to be noted. 616 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 7: He helped get them to the super Bowl. 617 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: Dammit. 618 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 3: This is a Twitter on the twenty question from Kyle 619 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeoman's here bord Nick Harra specifically use your land layers 620 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: in this year. 621 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: I don't have one yet. I don't have one yet. 622 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: I thought I'm going to say from Iowa from. 623 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 7: A running back a wigion things from a running back standpoint, 624 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: I don't have one quite yet, but I will. 625 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 5: I will. 626 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: We have a official pronunciation. 627 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: Guy like that. 628 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's for part of it. 629 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: Next question, Justin wants to know if the Cowboys go 630 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: styles at twelve and your mom McCoy, of course, corner 631 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: out of Tennessee slips the twenty, you might. 632 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: Be a little afraid of the non workout. 633 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 5: The Caleb Farley factor. 634 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: Kay, okay, let's talk about that. 635 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: Are you scared enough to take him still at twenty 636 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: or are you scared out of that immediately? 637 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: And would you go dyl and theenum in there. 638 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: Would not touch I would not touch thingam and over 639 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 5: McCoy at this point. It is so it's been a year, 640 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 5: it's been a year and a half since he's played football. 641 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 5: It's it's too It terrifies me too much. They would 642 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: they would know better. They like, they're gonna know better there. 643 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 5: If they look at it and they say we're comfortable 644 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 5: taking him at twenty, they have enough answers that that 645 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 5: it's okay. I'm guessing for for me and my limited 646 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 5: access of being able to know what he's capable of, 647 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: or why he sat out or why things happened a 648 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: certain way, I can't say that I would do that. 649 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 5: They would have it. They would have to research it 650 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 5: really hard. To feel good about his medicals and everything 651 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 5: else that I'm just not going to have access to 652 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 5: so blindly where I'm at, I would not want them 653 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 5: to do it because I just don't know. 654 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 7: You need a media contributors, and I don't know if 655 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 7: you can expect him to be an immediate contributor. If 656 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 7: you're using two first round picks, you need them both 657 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 7: to be immediate contributors on this defense. 658 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, and McCoy said at the stand that he was 659 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 8: cleared to play, but he's gonna wait till protat a test, 660 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 8: and because he wants a little bit more training time 661 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 8: in his return from the ACL injury, which it's been 662 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 8: I thinks, like, yeah, it's I. 663 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: Like that you said he said at the stand instead 664 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: of the podium like he was on trial. 665 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: Kind of was. 666 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 7: He's getting badgered more than anybody this week, just because 667 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 7: there's so many questions about, you know, what, what he 668 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 7: has in the tank and and if he can actually perform, 669 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 7: and him not being able to do the drills here 670 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 7: is really tough. 671 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: It was. 672 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it's we're talking about two Christmases have passed 673 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: since he last played football. 674 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 4: That's big. 675 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: That's tough. 676 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna get badgered with questions from here 677 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: on out, regardless, especially now with him not working out. 678 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: Oh, if he doesn't, if he doesn't, if he doesn't 679 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 5: work out at his pro day, he's it puts a 680 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 5: lot of pressure. I don't I don't know who's gonna 681 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: feel comfortable. 682 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 7: Okay, let's say he doesn't work out at his prome 683 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 7: off the board in time. You pick up a third 684 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 7: round pick at some point, and he's still there for 685 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 7: you in the third round. Like savone Rebel was sure, yeah, 686 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 7: third round, fine, but nowhere in the first said first 687 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 7: is off the table. 688 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: If I'm any team at that point. 689 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: What about it in the second Let's say you trade 690 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 3: back from the first then you get it. You get 691 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: a second round pick and a couple extra picks down 692 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: the line. But let's just say you're in the mid forties. 693 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: Sure you would still take it? 694 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 6: Take it at that point, I still used the two 695 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: first round picks. 696 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: Yes, no, you you would trade back from one of 697 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: them at least. 698 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: No, No, but you trade back like for Insance, you 699 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 5: traded twelve to eighteen and then you picked up a 700 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 5: second so you still Yeah, that's fair, we can do. 701 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: That's like my third. 702 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 6: Pick and I'm in the second round. 703 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay, I can go there. You can take 704 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: the tape in twenty twenty four is great. Yeah, it's fantastic. 705 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 5: It's good enough that if that, if that was the 706 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: tape leading into this year, he'd be a top pick. 707 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: He's he's slammed on top ten. 708 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 709 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: Interesting, He's not one of those guys that at the 710 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: Ponium was asked about if he's had the same almost 711 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: cocktail yet, like it wasn't fun questions And he stood 712 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: up there and I thought he did a nice job 713 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: of answering him. But at the same point, the only 714 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: answer you have is I'm not working out here. I'm 715 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: going to work out on my pro day now. The 716 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: pressure is going to be on on the pro day. 717 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 718 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: And what he's going to do up at Tennessee, we 719 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: might have to try and make a trip out the Knoxville. 720 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: You want to put that on the lit Sure a 721 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: good city too. 722 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: I have to get out there. 723 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 8: I want to go there when when Texas plays there, 724 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 8: that stadium is awesome. 725 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: It's a yeah, it's a sweet vite. 726 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you love that sound they pump into the into 727 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 5: the speakers, that the crowd noise. 728 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: I just like how it's got aura. 729 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 5: That was That was Tyler Booker. We asked Tyler Booker 730 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: what it was like to play in that stadium and 731 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: he said, I was amazed. I stood in there and 732 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: I went, wow, this is a high class sound system. 733 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: The crowd. 734 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: That was awesome. Uh. 735 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: Final one, this is coming from talking Dak and I'm 736 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: gonna tweak it a little bit. He wants to know 737 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: what is one prospect you're looking forward to seeing at 738 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: the combine? 739 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 4: In general? 740 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: Let's say tonight the guy that the drills start tonight, 741 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 3: the defensive backs are the first ones to take the 742 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: field at Lucas Oil Stadium. Who tonight is one of 743 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: the guys that you're you're looking forward to? And now 744 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: I know Jermal McCoy would be on that list, he's not. 745 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 7: But yeah, everyone, I mean, we could talk about Monts 746 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 7: sort of lane. That's gonna be the one I'm most 747 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 7: looking forward to now that Jermal McCoy is not participating. 748 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 7: How does he run? And it does does mont sort 749 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 7: of Lane hit that four four eight threshold that teams 750 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 7: are really wanting him to hit? 751 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: Cable downs? 752 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 7: I just want to see how freaky he looks on 753 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 7: the field. I think that's gonna be fun. You could 754 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 7: look at Brandon se say I've heard some things this 755 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 7: week that have kind of discouraged me around Brandon SSA, 756 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 7: and so I want to see him back on the 757 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 7: field and you know, kind of get that fresh set 758 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 7: in my mind of Brandon CSA. Keith Abney, I think 759 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: he's gonna have an awesome night out of Arizona State. Look, man, 760 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 7: we're not talking enough about Keith Abney. This is the 761 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 7: guy I would take it twenty. He's a guy I 762 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 7: would take it twenty. I love Keith Abney. He's originally 763 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 7: from Waxahachi in the southern DFW area. He was a 764 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 7: shot out to Dame Brugler. He put this up a 765 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago. He used to be a speed 766 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 7: skater and he he would do like roller derby tournaments 767 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 7: when he was a kid. He was asked about it 768 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 7: today during the podiums and he's like, yeah, you know, 769 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 7: how does it translate to football? 770 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 6: Is how it was asked. 771 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 7: He's like, yeah, you know, it definitely helps with endurance 772 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 7: when I'm on the field for like a fifteen play drive. 773 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 6: It helps with ankle dexterity. 774 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 7: I feel like my core got really strong and you 775 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 7: could see all those things pop up on his tape. 776 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: It's really fascinating because you took We talk about like 777 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: the basketball, the football translation or the track or very 778 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: rarely you'll find the wrestling as well, more so with 779 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 7: the bigger guys, but never. I don't think I've ever 780 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 7: heard speed skating get translated. We talked about volleyball last 781 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 7: year Teteroa McMillan, and we see how that translates with him, 782 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 7: and it's legitimate and I I Keith Abney is an 783 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 7: awesome player. If you want to watch some fun corner 784 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 7: tape of Violet cover Corner who is always on top 785 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 7: of his assignment, never gets lost from his guy, it's 786 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 7: it's it's Keith Abney. 787 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: And I apologies, I flipped it. The front seven is 788 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: today corners and defensive backs for tomorrow. So the front 789 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: seven of the first ones to take the field at 790 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: Lucas Oil Stadium. But great breakdown for tomorrow that we'll 791 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: talk about. Get a phenomenal job of out these guys 792 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: take the front. That's not gonna change what's gonna happen, 793 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: but tonight is the front seven, So that one's on me, gentlemen. 794 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go. 795 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 8: I think Sunny Styles is for me the main attraction 796 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 8: from a linebacker standpoint. 797 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: What is he? What does he run? How does this 798 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: change of direction look? 799 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 8: It's going to be really well And if it's numbers 800 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 8: that are kind of out of this world like it 801 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 8: very well could be. He might as well Locke cubment 802 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 8: himself in the top ten, which obviously would be non 803 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 8: ideal for Dallas, but he certainly has the trace to do. 804 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see what CJ. Allen runs. 805 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 8: Not the quickest guy on tape, it looks like so 806 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 8: is that really the case that what is he going 807 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 8: to run? And that time is going to prove it? 808 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 8: If he runs a good time, that's a guy that 809 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 8: could fly out. 810 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: Allen is who I thought of. 811 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: CJ. 812 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: Allen is a guy who if he looks better athletically 813 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: out here, if he times better athletically, then people had 814 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 5: initially thought that is the only thing that has I 815 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: think dinged him a little bit. If they see like, 816 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 5: all right, okay, here's somebody who who moves much better 817 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: than we thought he did, And I get the pair 818 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 5: of that brain and then that you know, ability to 819 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 5: read and react and the leadership treats and everything else 820 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 5: that people glow about with him, then yeah, I think 821 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 5: that that's a guy who absolutely I'm interested in seeing 822 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 5: how he works out. 823 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: All right, When we come back here on the Draft 824 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: Show from radio in Indianapolis, we do have some more 825 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: names that have met with. 826 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: The Cowboys this week. 827 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: And are the Cowboys not only drafting first round defensive players, 828 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: but are they looking deep into the third round possible 829 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 3: secondary help. 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I'm sure there will be plenty of questions 885 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: about free agency and the draft process in general, maybe 886 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: some of the guys that the Cowboys have met with 887 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: throughout this draft process as well. But we've we've uncovered 888 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: a couple more names along the way. About the list 889 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: of forty five formals that have happened. Why you smirking 890 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 3: over there? 891 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 5: Your mic is pointing away from your mouth? Is it 892 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 5: much better? 893 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, I'm a professional broadcaster, as you can tell. Uh, 894 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 3: we do have we have the ability to talk to 895 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer here in a little bit. 896 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 4: But let's go through this list of names that have 897 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 4: uh come out stip doing. 898 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 3: First one, Brandon Seesay in the corner out of South Carolina. 899 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 3: Who I know, Tommy, You're you're very high on but 900 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 3: you said you've heard some things that are a little 901 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: concerning there Nick this week. 902 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to see him on the field 903 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 7: and I want to see what it looks like in 904 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 7: a combine environment. 905 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 6: Well, and we'll we'll evaluate from there. 906 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care what Nick says. I like this 907 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: guy a lot. 908 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 8: I think that he's he's gonna need some sharpening, he's 909 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 8: gonna be some work at the NFL level. But if 910 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 8: he goes to the right spot and gets developed, he's 911 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 8: got all the athletic qualities and the size that you 912 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 8: want in a corner to play on the outside. He 913 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 8: was talking about how he feels he's versatile enough to 914 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 8: move inside, play box safety, come off the edge and blitz, 915 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 8: excuse me, come from the slot and blitz, and I 916 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 8: think that you probably look at him more outside very 917 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 8: rarely do you want him in the slot. 918 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: But he can run around really well. He hits hard. 919 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 8: The thing that concerns me is there wasn't a lot 920 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 8: of ball production during his time at South Carolina. I 921 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 8: think he only had two career interceptions over three years, 922 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 8: so that would be the only knock for me is 923 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 8: can he get to the football and turn the ball over. 924 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 8: He does a good job of attacking the triangle and 925 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 8: breaking passes up, but can he get away to get 926 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 8: in front of the receiver and intercept passes would be 927 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 8: my thing. But I think he's got a lot of 928 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 8: good football in front of him if he goes to 929 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 8: the right spot. 930 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 5: I like the traits I don't like the instincts at all. 931 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 5: I don't think he's a very instinctual player, and that's 932 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 5: always a big no no for me at corner. 933 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: Got it, uh, Ohio State safety Caleb Downs. 934 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 4: He is uh. He's one that has talked to the Cowboys. 935 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: No surprise there. 936 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: He could very well be the the the prized possession 937 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 3: of the Cowboys if he ends up going to twelve. 938 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 5: I heard a comp on him from lancezer Line that 939 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 5: I thought was really good, which is Buddha Baker in 940 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 5: a bigger body and if you James, if you were 941 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 5: to yeah, a little smaller than dirt and so. But 942 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's I think there's just so 943 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:42,280 Speaker 5: much safe and secure and really comfortable about Caleb Downs. 944 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 7: See the safest player. He is a safest player in 945 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 7: this draft. I don't think that's a question. Yes, see 946 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 7: the safest player in like half a decade. 947 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 6: I think he's Caleb Williams. Seems safe for the quarterback, 948 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 6: He's very similar. 949 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 5: It's a little like like Minka or guys like that. 950 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 5: Really a lot of times it is if you're if 951 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 5: you're a safety and you're being talked up like this 952 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 5: high in the NFL draft in the last ten years, 953 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 5: it's usually yeah, you're you're one of the more safe players. 954 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: Another safety from the Big ten Penn State safety is 955 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: a Key Whitley. Uh it's Wheatley. Excuse me, but Wheatley. 956 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 3: Do you know anything about what he brings? 957 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, range, he brings a lot of it, and uh 958 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 7: so instinct show in the back end. It's a guy 959 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,479 Speaker 7: that me and voch have have bonded over for sure. 960 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 7: He says he'd take him at twenty. I don't agree 961 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 7: or disagree. Okay, fence right, Oh, I love riding a 962 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 7: good fence. I know I've heard. 963 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: Interesting I disagree. I'll say that I wouldn't take him. 964 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 965 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 2: I wouldn't taken him at twenty, but I wouldn't take 966 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 2: him at twenty. 967 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 8: But he is rangy, he runs really well, he can cover, 968 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 8: so there's a lot to like there. 969 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: But I would take see him in from Oregon over him. 970 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: I agree. I'm there too. Uh. 971 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 3: Tennessee Corner, Jerma McCoy lsu corner Mansour Delaine Clemson Corner, 972 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 3: Abion Terrell, Tennessee corner, Colton Hood. 973 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 4: A lot of guys that we've talked about. 974 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 3: On this show extensively in this cornerback class Ohio State 975 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 3: corner Davison Igbinosen, who I know we talked to at 976 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl and have talked about previously. Is he 977 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 3: a Day two guy? Because That's where I'm looking at it. 978 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 3: Day two maybe. Is that one of those conversations that 979 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 3: is about a teammate. 980 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: He very well could be. 981 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 8: And I think the biggest thing with him is what 982 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 8: do teams think about is he going to be an 983 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 8: issue penalty wise? Because it was an issue for a 984 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 8: long time at a hot state. He did a good 985 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 8: job this past year of limiting that. I think he 986 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 8: was down to six total penalties this season after he 987 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 8: had like fourteen or something. 988 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 2: The year before that he. 989 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 6: Had sixteen and twenty four and he had five this 990 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 6: last year. 991 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 2: Thank you. 992 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 8: So our teams sold that he's gotten better with that 993 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 8: or are they just do they like him enough to 994 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 8: the where they can say, hey, we're okay if he 995 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 8: gets a interference call here and there, we're okay. Because 996 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 8: he's so aggressive, he makes it really tough on receivers 997 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 8: to get around him, and he can cover down the field. 998 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 8: He's got the size for it, so it's just gonna 999 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 8: be a question of whether or not teams are okay 1000 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 8: with maybe getting a couple of penalties. 1001 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 5: Not all penalties are created equal to especially in the secondary. 1002 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 5: If you are a frequently penalized player, it means one 1003 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 5: or two things. One you are getting beat and or 1004 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 5: two you're physical, you're just and and it's it's more 1005 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 5: physical there. But I mean it like there have been 1006 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 5: some guys in the past who's that's how they had 1007 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 5: to cover, was they grabbed and and those are the 1008 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 5: ones that more scare me. 1009 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: Uh corner out of Texas, A and M will leave 1010 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: the third Florida corner Devin Moore, Houston cornerback Latrell McCutcheon. 1011 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: You got the chance to see him up at close 1012 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 3: and personal this year. He's a playmaker, ballhawk type of guy, 1013 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 3: not polished at all. I mean, there's a lot of 1014 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: things that I would want to see there. He's a 1015 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 3: Day three guy for me, But I still think it 1016 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 3: could be a value pick. 1017 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 4: Miami corner Keante Scott. 1018 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: Actually, going back to mccutching, you've you covered him in 1019 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 3: high school. 1020 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 4: Right I did. How what would you your breakdown of 1021 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 4: what Treill mccutcheing. 1022 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 6: Be has a lot off field concerns that I wouldn't 1023 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 6: need to have answered. 1024 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 3: So not even just on the field stuff, what would 1025 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 3: you classify him on the field. 1026 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 7: On the field, he's had moments where he's had his 1027 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 7: confidence killed early in a game and it takes him 1028 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 7: out of the game. And so and that that has 1029 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 7: continued throughout his college career. And so I don't know 1030 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 7: if i'd spent a draft pick on the troil McCutcheon. 1031 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, so uh Miami corner Keante Scott, San Diego 1032 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: State corner Chris Johnson. 1033 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 4: I know you liked him at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, Jeh. 1034 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 8: Johnson's great. I think it's gonna be another one for him. 1035 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 8: Similar kind of to what Bobby and I were talking 1036 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 8: about with C. J. Allen is how does he run 1037 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 8: on tape? It doesn't look like the fastest guy, but 1038 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 8: he's really technically sound. He was fantastic at San Diego 1039 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 8: State the last few years. So that's the guy that 1040 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 8: I like a lot. But I also really like Keante Scott. 1041 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 8: Sure he's going to be twenty five when the draft 1042 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 8: comes around, I could care less. I think that if 1043 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 8: Christian Parker's talking about, Hey, we need a nickel guy 1044 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 8: who can do everything. He needs to cover, he needs 1045 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 8: to blitz, do whatever, go over the middle of the field. 1046 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 8: I think Keyante Scott would be a really good guy 1047 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 8: for that role. I think you would maybe need some 1048 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 8: help with him from a coverage standpoint, which I know 1049 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 8: you think, wait, Nicola and you can't cover. 1050 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: I think he can. 1051 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 8: I just think that he is better inside the box, 1052 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 8: hitting in the run game, and you deal with him 1053 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 8: as a cover guy by helping him out and take 1054 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 8: advantage of some of the other things that he brings 1055 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 8: to the table. 1056 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 3: And then last name on the list that I've got 1057 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 3: for today, it is South Carolina safety Jalen Kilgore as well. 1058 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 3: So that's the list of secondary players that we know 1059 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 3: or at least have been told that there are meetings 1060 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 3: happening between them and the Cowboys. Some of these might 1061 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 3: be informal meetings, because that's a lot of names through. 1062 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: Two days, guys. 1063 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 5: A lot of times they mix them up, and it's 1064 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 5: a totally innocent mistake. A lot of times they just 1065 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 5: they may have thought, oh, that was a longer conversation 1066 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 5: than I had in this brief one. So I thought 1067 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 5: that was more formal. It's just a lot of times 1068 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 5: it's it's never a malicious thing. But yeah, I would 1069 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 5: imagine most of those are correct. There just may be 1070 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 5: a handful that guys didn't know. 1071 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 3: And that might be one of those conversations that we'll 1072 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 3: have later in the week and say, Okay, what's this 1073 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 3: a real formal interview? 1074 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 4: Was this somebody else along the way and kind of 1075 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 4: go from there. 1076 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 5: Some of those have gone on exceedingly. I remember there's 1077 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 5: one year I can't I can't remember. There's a receiver 1078 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 5: back in like twenty eighteen who everybody had reported as 1079 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: a formal although and we were three days out from 1080 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 5: the draft and I was talking with somebody with the 1081 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 5: Cowboys and they're like, no, he wasn't. I was like, oh, okay, 1082 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 5: we've all assumed he was because he said he was 1083 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 5: and that had not been corrected. 1084 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 3: That happened in twenty twenty two as well, with somebody 1085 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 3: that we were talking about as a formal meeting and 1086 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 3: getting end up being I think. 1087 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 4: It was a running back. I can't remember who it was. 1088 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 5: I was like the last week. Some people just be like, hey, 1089 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 5: you know that's wrong, Like, oh crap, okay, cool, we've 1090 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,479 Speaker 5: been well that I would throw out that mock draft 1091 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 5: I've had all. 1092 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 4: The last month. But yeah, so it's still a lot 1093 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 4: to sort through. 1094 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 3: We've got one more show coming up tomorrow here from 1095 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 3: Radio Row at the NFL Combine, but the drill start tonight. 1096 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,879 Speaker 3: You can watch them all on NFL Network and look 1097 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 3: forward to seeing the guys actually put cleats to the 1098 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 3: turf and see what they've got in terms of the 1099 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 3: measurements going into the weekend. Lots going on. Bobby, thanks 1100 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: for stopping by again to thank for enjoyed it. Guys, 1101 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you tomorrow. For Tommy Yursh, 1102 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 3: for Nick Harris, for Bobby belt Im, Kyle Yellmans. 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