1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: A teenage hit man, a loving husband and father guns 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: down in a parking lot. How does all that fit together? 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: And you can't tell me that a teenage boy masterminds 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: a hit on a grown man. On July tenth, Lee 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: was walking to his car at the overlook at Lake 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Mount Apartments when he heard the first shot, then a 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: second That bullet had hit my right arm. And then 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: I looked to my right and I saw this guy 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: running to me with a gun still firing too. Lee 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: got to his car and tried to protect his head 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and chest, and I was thinking, oh my god, I'm dead. 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: You know he's standing right over me with a gun 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: point you're right at me. After more gunshots, the bullets 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: finally ran out, and Lee lived. The forty eight year 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: old has nerve damage in his arm twelve entry and 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: exit wounds, but it's the emotional damage that keeps him 17 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: awake at night. The arrest of his ex wife and 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: two seventeen year olds brings relief and hope. He can 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: now give his son a better life. That was be 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: my dream that we never have to see her again. 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: If that means her standing Joe for the rest of 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: her life, so be it a teenage hit man feeling 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: yourself go down onto the asphalt of a parking lot, thanking, 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to die again. Thank you for being with 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: us here at Foxnation series Sex sim one eleven. You 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: were just hearing our friend Alison Grande at ki r 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: O seven News, but you were also hearing the shooting 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: victim in this case, think about it, twelve entry and 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: exit wounds and somehow at that point anyway, he was 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: still alive. With me an All Star panel. Chris Harris, 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: senior true crime reporter People Magazine at People dot com. 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Chris Harris Mint. Also with me, 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Tim Gallagher, the medical examiner for the entire state 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: of Florida, and you can find him at pathcaremad dot com. 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Dan Coorsantino, foreign Police Chief Sheriff, served on US Homeland 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Security Senior Advisory Board, now PI at Dan Korsantino dot com. 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Doctor Jory Krausen, police psychologist faculties Saint Leo University, consultant 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: with the Blue Wall Institute and author of Operation s 39 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: o S Practical Recommendations to help stop Officer suicide. Also 40 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: with me, Holly Davis, trial lawyer, Family law specialist co 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: founding partner at Kirker Davis at Kirker Davis dot com 42 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and special guests joining me, and I want to go 43 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: straight to him. Believe it or not, he's up walking around. 44 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: I think a miracle. Baron Lee the victim in this case, 45 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: and you can find him. I go front me by 46 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: searching hashtag help for Baron Baron. I can't believe you 47 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: actually survived twelve entry and exit wounds. I want to 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: hear everything, every detail. So as you were walking out, 49 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: I think you were walking to your car. What happened? 50 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: I just got got enough. It was a Friday. I 51 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: actually wasn't supposed to go to work that day. I 52 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: was covering for another manager at work. So I was 53 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: walking out to my car and I heard the first shot, 54 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: which I you know, I thought it was fireworks. It 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: was July tenth. Okay, WHOA stop right there, because I 56 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: think everybody is listening right now. Barren Lee has heard 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: something and you go, WHOA, what was that? Was that 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a car back fire? Was that a firework? To doctor 59 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Troy Cross and police psychologist, Isn't that just a human's 60 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: way of trying to digest or assess what you're hearing 61 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: the first thing you think is not typically, wow, somebody's 62 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: shooting at me. You think it's a firework or a 63 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: carback firing. You're going to go to your most recent memory, 64 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: of the auditorial memory and try to associate that with 65 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: the past sound, like you said, fireworks. Unfortunately, when you 66 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: take a physical add to that, like getting actually hid 67 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: with that though you know I always do that. Though 68 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Doctor Jordy Crossen. You hear something, your 69 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: first thought is not Wow, somebody's shooting a gun in 70 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: the parking want and I'm going to go down back 71 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: to you baring Lee the victim in this case, who 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: somehow managed to survive twelve entry exit wounds. So you 73 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: hear this sound and you think it's fireworks. I find 74 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: that so interesting. Take it from there. Yeah, So I 75 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: looked to the last I didn't see anything, and then 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: the second shot I hear it, and obviously that was 77 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: when I actually got hit in my right arm. And 78 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that's when I looked to the rioting and saw this 79 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: guy running at me with the gun. What did it 80 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: feel like, Because a lot of people say they don't 81 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: even feel anything. I guess it at the time you 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: feel like I felt like a real sharp pain, like 83 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: someone pinched my arm. It actually shattered my arm broken, 84 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize it was broken yet. I just, 85 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, John, and I see someone running with 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: me the gun. I'm looking for the best exit strategy 87 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: possible Dodgor Gallagher. How comes so many shooting victims don't 88 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: even realize what's happening and they don't feel it. But 89 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: barrenly he felt something sharp, had no idea he had 90 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: shattered his arm. What is that shot? Well, it could be. 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean, people have a lot of adrenaline running, and 92 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: adrenaline tends to dull your perception of pain, although it 93 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: does heighten some other senses. So it's not unusual to 94 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: hear people who have been shot not feel it or 95 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: have actually somebody else tell them, hey, you're bleeding. You 96 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: must have been shot. It's a very very common thing 97 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: to do and am not an unusual situation at all 98 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: by to you, Baron. So you get hit in the 99 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: right arm, you look to the right, and what do 100 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: you say? I see this guy running towards me. He's 101 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: probably about I see fifty feet away from me, and 102 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty close and so I was about, 103 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, five feet from my car door, so I 104 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: rushed to my car to open it. Fortunately, I had 105 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: actually already unlocked my car with the fob prior to 106 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: being shot, as I normally do when I walked up 107 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: to the car, so it was unlocked because I had 108 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: the keys in my right hand. So as the moment 109 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: I got shot, I actually dropped the keys. He's not, 110 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, realizing opened the car door and try to 111 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: get behind. I get into my car, and that's when 112 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I got another shot behind my right leg, and that 113 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: made me actually fall to ground. I couldn't I couldn't stand. 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I pulled myself behind the door and he kept firing 115 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: at me. And then a few seconds later I look 116 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: up and I take the first shot. He comes around 117 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the corner, take the first shot into the chest and 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: goes through the side of my chest. And at that 119 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: point it's like, what I'm going to do. This guy 120 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: is standing over me before blank firing at me. So 121 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: I dive into the car, kind of hiding my head 122 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: under the wheel well, hoping, you know, to at least 123 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: protect my head in my heart, and he unloads the 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: clip or the magazine into into my body, the left 125 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: side of my body, because that was part that wasn't unprotective. 126 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Nine shots is what happened. Could you see his face 127 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: as he was doing this, Baron So, I mean I see, 128 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, like his full his full face and body, 129 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: but not anything where I could recognize. I mean, I'm 130 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: not trying to identify my shooter at that point. I'm 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: just trying to survive. Take a listen to this. When 132 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: a forty eight year old father was shot at this 133 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: apartment complex, the evidence led detectives to two teenagers over 134 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: seventy miles away with no ties to the victim. But 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: when investigator was dug deeper, they found those two teams 136 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: were connected to someone close to the victim, someone with 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: an apparent motive to want him dead. It's absolutely complex. 138 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: The vicious shooting of Baron Lee is not the kind 139 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: of case Bill Vue PDC's often or ever. It involves 140 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: a family that's torn apart, the father of a child 141 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: and his ex wife, and a custody battle. What happened 142 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: to Lee on the morning of July tenth is he 143 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: walked out his front door to head to work. Is 144 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: what nightmares are made of. As he walked to his car, 145 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: he was confronted by an assailant that he didn't recognize. 146 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: The assailant shot him about eight or nine times. The 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: victim fell to the ground. The suspects stood over him 148 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 1: and continued to fire. Incredibly, he lived and one of 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: the first things he told detectives he said that the 150 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: only person he thought or that he could think of, 151 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: that had anything against him was his ex wife. That 152 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: was Olivia Voice Acute thirteen Fox Seattle, trying to make 153 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: sense of it. Two Killers Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 154 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, it's really a miracle. 155 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: Barrenly survives twelve entry and exit wounds, his body riddled 156 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: with bullets on an ordinary Friday after Friday morning, He's 157 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: not supposed to go to work. He does to fill 158 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: them for somebody else to Chris hear Us, tell me 159 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: about the location. He's going out into a parking lot, 160 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: I think full of cars. Tell me what you're understanding 161 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: is of the topography the scenario. Um, you know, it's 162 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: a kind of a kind of minium apartment building from 163 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: what I understands, in a very urban h I sorry, 164 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: rural area. And yeah, it was just an open parking 165 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: lot lots car and barn was just on his way 166 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: to work to cover for somebody, which is it's crazy 167 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: that the shooter even knew that he was going to 168 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: be coming out to go to work that day. You know, 169 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: very interesting to Dan Coarcentina, former police chief and with 170 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Homeland Security. You can find it now private investigator at 171 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Dan Korcentino dot com. Dan, I find it very odd 172 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: that you would commit, say, shooting of a target in 173 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: an open area like a parking lot, where everybody could 174 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: see you. It was very amateur, Nancy, the way this 175 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: case was done in regards to the suspects in this case, 176 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean they clearly there's no exculpatory evidence or evidence 177 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: capable to the defense in this They left shell casings behind, 178 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: they have witnesses and as we'll see later throughout the show, 179 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: there was text messages, GPS system that was placed on 180 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: a vehicle. There was just no plan. Very amateur, and 181 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: from my perspective, we would have seen with a more 182 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: mature individual that had a profession as a hit man 183 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: or something. Malcom may have been tragic for mister Lee. 184 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: You're right about that, and certainly anyone with any experience 185 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: with no not to come firing in an open parking lot. 186 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean back to you, Baron Lee, the victim in 187 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: this case, you can find him. Go find me hashtag 188 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: help for Baron. There has to be surveillance video. You're 189 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: in an open parking lot and condominium complex. People will 190 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: look out the window to see what's going on. When 191 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: you turn around. Baron, you said you heard something. You 192 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: look to your left, you felt pain on your right. 193 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: You look and you see someone coming at you. Could 194 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: you tell it was a teen boy? Know, at the time, 195 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell at all because they had a mask 196 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: and they were wearing gloves that I had Aludon, I 197 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: couldn't even tell it was a guy or a girl 198 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: that at that point, I just, you know, what was 199 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: going through your mind, Barn, Like I told the police 200 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: officers from the get go, I was just wondering who 201 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: my ex wife had sent to kill me, I mean, 202 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: and what I was going to do to survive, you know, 203 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: at that point, how I was gonna, you know, make 204 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: it through this so I could be there for my son. Well, 205 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: that's an incredibly lucid thought to be having at a 206 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: time when you were about to bleed out dead in 207 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: the parking a lot. But you know what, it's interesting. 208 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I remember when I gave birth to the twins, my 209 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: daughter and I almost died, and I remember thinking, who 210 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: is going to raise them? I'm going to be on 211 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: the other side of life watching them being raised without 212 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: a mother. I remember thinking all the thought that you're 213 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: describing at a time when life was really ebbing away 214 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: from me, you know. To Holly Davis, trial lawyer, no 215 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: stranger to a courtroom with Kirker Davis at Kirker Davis 216 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Holly, you know, trying to defend this teen 217 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: hitman is tough because you just heard Bear and Lee 218 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: say they had their faces covered wearing a hoodie and gloves. 219 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: That shows menzreea malice of forethought. Intent, and of course, 220 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: intent under the law can be formed in an instant, 221 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the blink of an eye, the twinkling of a moment. 222 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't take or require a long drawn out plan, 223 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: such as poisoning someone over a period of time, or 224 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, a detailed plan to go hide your face, 225 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: to hoodie, to wear gloves, to show up at the 226 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: scene with guns. That shows premeditation. Holly, there's no way 227 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: around it. Absolutely. I mean, what a joke this crime 228 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: was in terms of, you know, planned out, calculated murder. 229 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: And I also believe that the fact that this perpetrator 230 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: was a complete stranger to the victim, to Baron, also 231 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: indicates that he had no other reason to be there 232 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: in that apartment complex but for to kill him as 233 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: part of this plan. And what's even worse is that, 234 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're going to get to a later 235 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: in the show, Baron's x Y is the connecting piece 236 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: among all of these individuals, and her involvement in this 237 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: sending him directly. This perpetrator would not be in that 238 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: parking lot but for Baron's X wife, I mean major 239 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: culpability on her part as well, even though she was 240 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: not in that apartment complex or anywhere near on that morning. 241 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's what you do when you're analyzing a case. 242 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: You look at common denominators. What is the connectivity, what's 243 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the connection between this victim and the killer? They would 244 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: be killer, Barren Lay, did they try to rob you 245 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: or take your car? No? Like I said, I was 246 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: ancern as he finished firing, he actually bent down to 247 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: try and pick up a couple of casings and then 248 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: took off. Guys, take a listen to our friends at 249 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: inside Edition. I took a shot behind my right leg 250 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: and that's when I fell to the ground, pulled myself 251 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: behind the car door. He comes around the door and 252 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: he's standing over me at point blank range. Fired the 253 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: first shot without looking and went in my chest here 254 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: to shot me in the leg, in the hip, and 255 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: twice in the arm until the clip emptied. Did you 256 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: think this was a random attack or did you think 257 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: it was something else? Absolutely not. I mean from the 258 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: get go, I just was wondering who was that that 259 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: my wife had sent to kill me. Cops found a 260 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: GPS tracking device on Lee's car. It ended up being 261 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: the victim's ex wife who had purchased that tracker. That 262 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: led police to arrest thirty year old Sharon Kelly. The 263 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: investigation also led to this seven than teen year old 264 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: who was allegedly to be paid thirteen thousand dollars for 265 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the hit. Comp say his getaway driver was another seventeen 266 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: year old. All were charged with attempted murder. What do 267 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: you want to say to her? Honestly, I hope sat 268 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: and jail for the rest of her life. The animosity 269 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: that must have existed in her mind to allegedly order 270 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: a hit on her husband, Baron Lee, who is with us? Now, 271 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting, Dan Corsentino, I don't think this 272 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a difficult case to prove because 273 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: all the forensic evidence, such as you hear Baron Lee 274 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: state that the shooter tried to pick up the shell casings. 275 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Shell casings can be traced back to the type of MMO, 276 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: sometimes even the exact weapon, like a finger print. How 277 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: does that happen, Dan Corsentino. Many people understand you can 278 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: track a bullet back to the precise gun like a fingerprint, 279 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: but what about a shell casing. Well, the shell casings themselves, 280 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: there's just like you said, Nancy, it's almost like a fingerprint. 281 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: There's a marks on the casing, stridations on the casing, 282 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: and the law enforcement agencies, regardless of which one it is, 283 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: is going to be able to run tests to match 284 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: them up basically to the capsule of the casing itself. 285 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: They're also going to be able to determine specifically the 286 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: residue very definitively from the gunpower and the primary remaining 287 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: in the shell casing. So that process is pretty simple 288 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: forensically for them to match up to the weapon and 289 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: the link will be very conclusive. I was trying to 290 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: explain it injuries like this. I love ballistics and have 291 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: done ballistic ballistics test many times myself at the crime lab. 292 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: And you do it by getting the gun in question 293 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: and firing a bullet down the gun into a tub 294 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: of water or pillows, whatever, and then you take that 295 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: fired bullet that you know came from this gun. Then 296 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: under a microscope you compare it to the bullet that's 297 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: fished out of the victim barren lee and then you'll 298 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: see these same exact striations, in other words, markings on 299 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: the bullet. Because every gun is different like a fingerprint. 300 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Every gun is made of metal and it cools a 301 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: certain way. It's forged in fire and it cools, and 302 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: that gun has its unique cooling marks inside the barrel. 303 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: So as a bullet hurls down the barrel, it's marked 304 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: by those unique drying spots on the inside the barrel. 305 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: So the bullets will match up white fingerprints. Same thing 306 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: with a shell casing as it is ejected from a 307 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: particular gun, only that gun will leave that particular mark 308 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: on the shell casing. It's really easy and it's so accurate. 309 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. For those of you just 310 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: joining us with me is Baron Lee, who managed to 311 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: survive twelve entry and exit bullet wounds to tell his tale. 312 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: And he's telling it right now for you. Take a 313 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: listen right now to our friends at Q thirteen Fox, Seattle. 314 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: According to Baron, he and his thirty year old ex 315 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: wife have been involved in a bitter fight over their son. 316 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: There was also a financial element to the custody of 317 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: their child. Well the ex wife maybe the only one 318 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: with an apparent motive. Detectives soon found surveillance video led 319 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: them to two seventeen year olds in Mount Vernon, one 320 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: of the teams that apparently used a GPS tracker to 321 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: help pin down Lee's location the night before the shooting. 322 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: That GPS tracker was the piece of the puzzle that 323 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: pointed to his ex wife. She had purchased a GPS 324 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: tracker that we located on the victim's vehicle. As far 325 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: as how the ex wife met the teens, investigators say 326 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: they're still looking into that. To barrenly joining me, the 327 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: victim in this case, along with Chris Harris from People Magazine, 328 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: doctor Tim Gallagher or Dan Corsentino, doctor Joy Crosen, and 329 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Holly Davis Baron. As you're lying there when the teen 330 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: shooter leaves, what went through your mind? Yeah? At the 331 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: first at that point, you know, all you're thinking is, 332 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: you know, is this my last breath? Am I going 333 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: to die? And I want? You know, if I die, 334 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen to my son? Who's 335 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: going to care for him? Um? Is you going to 336 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: go back to her? You know, there's a system gonna 337 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: take care of it. H You know, how am I 338 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: going to survive this at all? You know? Um? Because 339 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: you know I've felt a lot of pain, but I 340 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: was still breathing. But you know, you're shot that many times. 341 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: It's rushing through my head. You know, am I gonna die? 342 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: This is the last last breast I'm gonna take? And um, 343 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: that's you know, it's just pretty scary thoughts. You know. 344 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Who called? Actually quite a few of my neighbors had 345 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: actually heard the gunshots from who picked out the windows, 346 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: So there was a few From what I understood, there 347 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: was quite a few people that had called nine one one. 348 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Did anybody come out to help you. Yeah. So the 349 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: first thing that happened. As soon as the shooter left, 350 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: I heard someone scream out are you okay? Um, do 351 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: you need anything? And I was like, I've been shot 352 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: like a few times. I need uh, you know, an 353 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: ambulance or someone to come help me. And I said, 354 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: don't worry, we got we already got someone coming. And 355 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: then the first first neighbor showed up. She uh came 356 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: next to me and saw that I was bleeding, and 357 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: so she tried to apply pressure to my chest. And 358 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: I was wearing a black jacket, so they didn't see 359 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: where all my gunshots were. She just saw me bleeding 360 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: through my chest because my jacket had been open, so 361 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: she applied pressure to kind of stop the bleeding as 362 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: much as possible. Um. But I had also been shot 363 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: in all my arms and my legs as well. And 364 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: so when the police first showed up, there were the 365 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: first ones on the scene. I believe there are three 366 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: officers total. Um. They tried to put tourniquets around my 367 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: legs and my arms because I told me where I'd 368 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: been shot, and uh, that's basically what happened. And then 369 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: the paramedics got there shortly after I would say, all 370 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: within five minutes. It seems like everyone was there. You know, 371 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate because the police of the fire station was 372 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: literally one block up the road from my baron. Let 373 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: me ask you something, and believe me, I hate politics. 374 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: I think they're all lying. It's like a cesspool. Barry Line. 375 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: What do you make of the defund the police movement? 376 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly, I think it's crazy. Uh, officers 377 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: do a great job. I mean, like I said that, 378 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the detectives and the police officers 379 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: that responded, I may not be here. And look, I 380 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: know there's some bad cops out there. I get it, 381 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: and they should be prosecuted. But to defund the police, 382 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: there's there's bad people everywhere, whether whether no matter what 383 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: occupation there is. But it doesn't mean that you separate. 384 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: I mean you include them with everybody else because there 385 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: are a lot of great Okay, I'm taking down a 386 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: rabbit hole that even I don't want, So let me 387 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: get out of that and get back on you. Do 388 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: you remember your ride in the ambulance to the spittle. Yeah, 389 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: they had Basically they were trying to strip me down. 390 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: They were cutting away, you know, clothing and stuff so 391 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: they could get to all the bullet wounds. At that time, 392 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: I was felt like at peace, like I was ready 393 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: to die, dear Lord in heaven, falling asleep, and I 394 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: distinctly remember the paramedics were telling me to stay away, 395 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: bearing what's your name? Talk to me and all this stuff, 396 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: and then one of the params I stepped. I kept 397 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: bozing off, and then one of the paramedics touched where 398 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: whatever my wound was and it sent a shark pain 399 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: and it woke me up, and I was like, okay, 400 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm up, I'm up. Don't touch don't touch that. That's 401 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: such a scary feeling. I remember that feeling, just wanting 402 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: to go to sleep and just kind of like drifting off. 403 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: What is that? The doctor Tim Gallagher, I hate to 404 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: keep asking the same question, what is that? But what 405 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: is that? When you you just you just want to 406 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: go to sleep and you know that your life is 407 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: ebbing away, but somehow you don't care. Well, yeah, that's 408 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: a very philosophical and anatomical question. Well for in philosophy, 409 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: and give me anatomy. Well, the brain requires oxygen. The 410 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: brain requires oxygen that's delivered to it from your blood. 411 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: So if you're shot in the chest, definitely one of 412 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: your lungs have been hit, so now you're bleeding. The 413 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: blood that your brain needs to survive is now bleeding 414 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: into your chest, so your brain is not receiving the 415 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: proper amounts of blood, so it's starts to shut down 416 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: areas of itself. And this is the feeling that people get. 417 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: They get sleepy, a feeling of peace comes over them, 418 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: the feeling of acceptance comes over them, and then they 419 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: pass away shortly after that, Barrenly, do you hear how 420 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: close you were to death and not being there to 421 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: raise your son. Yeah, I think that's what made me 422 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: the most angerable of at all, you know, when everything 423 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: was said and done, when I looked back, I mean, I, 424 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: like I said, you know, that day was a weird 425 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: mix of emotions, but anger was actually one of them 426 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: when I thought about that, because of what could have 427 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: happened to my son if I had passed, and to you. 428 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: Chris Harris, Senior crime reporter, People Magazine. You know, very often, Chris, 429 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: i'd say, the majority of the time you're here, and 430 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: Barrenly say, I knew when I saw the sheeter, I thought, 431 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: who has my wife hired to kill me? Normally we 432 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: hear it, Chris, where the it's typically a woman says 433 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: if anything happens to me, X did it, my husband, 434 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: my fiance, my ex boyfriend, they know. But this time, 435 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: this once in a lifetime, the person lives. We don't 436 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: see that very often, Chris Harris. No, That's one of 437 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: the first things I said to Baron when we started 438 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: talking was I don't think I've ever spoken to someone 439 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: who survived nine gunshots. And he jokingly referred to fifty Cent, 440 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: the rapper who you know, when he was in Queens 441 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: still a drug dealer, did get shot nine times and survived. 442 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, Baron. Unfortunately Baron is an rapper and can't 443 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: make a record, but yeah, it's one of those craziest stories. 444 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: And I do think it's a miracle that he survived. 445 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, Chris Harris, you've been on this from the 446 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: very beginning. Chris Harris joining me. We're really honored to 447 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: have you from People magazine that we all love. Christ 448 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts on this case. I feel so 449 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: bad for Baron. You know, it's just a guy trying 450 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: to raise his kid, do right by his family and 451 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: this woman. To me, I don't see how anyone thinks 452 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: murder is the answer for anything, especially in a custody battle. 453 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is one of those those stories that 454 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: really touches your heart because Baron, just from getting to 455 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: know him through our numerous conversations, such a dedicated dad, 456 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: so devoted to his son. You hate to see this 457 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: happened to someone a good person like Barren Lee, especially 458 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: when you know the motive may have been a trust 459 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: fund here that she would have had access to had 460 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Baron not survived crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, why 461 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: do we keep referring to the wife as the mastermind 462 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: behind this plot? For those of you just joining us, 463 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: we have a true life miracle, a survivor of twelve 464 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: entry exit wounds shot point blank. You can find him 465 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: on go fund me, and I urge you to do 466 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: that at hashtag help for Baron. Why does so many 467 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: people think the evil ex wife was involved? Well, let's 468 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: just start with this. Take listen to our cut number one. 469 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: This is Tommy Mataza, a Komo News for court documents 470 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: paint a deliberate and disturbing murder for higher scheme. Bellevue 471 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Police say Sharon Kelly hired a seventeen year old boy 472 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: to murder her ex husband, Baron Lee, and offered to 473 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: pay the teenager thirteen thousand dollars something like this is rare, 474 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: It is rare. On the day of the shooting in July, 475 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: police say the seventeen year old got his friend to 476 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: drive him to the overlook at lake Mont Apartments in Bellevue, 477 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: where court documents say he was going to cap someone 478 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: and empty the clip. Police say the seventeen year old 479 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: gunman ambushed Lee, shooting him nine times. The victim fell 480 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: to the ground, the suspects stood over him and continued 481 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: to fire. According to court documents, Lee said he couldn't 482 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: think of anyone who would want to kill him besides 483 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: his ex wife, saying they were in the midst of 484 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: a very acrimonious custody battle that also included a financial 485 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: motive for Kelly to have sole custody of their child. 486 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: And to you, Baron Lee, who miraculously survived a point 487 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: blank range shooting and you can find him a hashtag 488 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: help for Baron It, go fund me, Isn't it true? 489 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: Sarella's video captures the license plate the getaway truck and 490 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: leads them to the shooter, a seventeen year old who 491 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: was supposed to get thirteen grand. The getaway truck driver, 492 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: also seventeen, who was offered between four and six thousand dollars, 493 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: And they got a tracking device off your vehicle and 494 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: turns out it was bought by your ex wife, Sharon 495 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: Kelly Baron. That's correct. I mean, I don't know. I 496 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: mean I would, I can't say I was surprised. I mean, 497 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: I think I told everyone you know that this is 498 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: actually not even the whole story. This is just the 499 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: culmination of what's going on for the past five years. 500 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on in the past five years. 501 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, I've been fighting for Krusty, for my son, 502 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: and my son was taken for me when he was 503 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: a year old because I was I was served with 504 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: temporary restraining order for domestic violin two weeks later, and 505 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: period in court to fight it. It was thrown out 506 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: and found out that it was a lie in complete life, 507 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: but my sign in my house was still taken for me, 508 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: and then I was forced to pay six thousand dollars 509 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: a month in child support to a point where it 510 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: made me homeless. And I had to flee the state 511 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: because they were trying to throw me in jokes for 512 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: not being able to pay the child support to Hollie 513 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Davis trial lawyer joining me at Kirker Davis dot com, Hollie, 514 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: don't you hate? And I represented at the Batter Women's 515 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: Center for free women that were domestic violence survivors. Don't 516 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: you hate to see the system twisted like this getting 517 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: a t R against Baron that wasn't true, and then 518 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: when it was disproved in court, it was already too late. 519 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: The boy had been his son, had been given to 520 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: the wife, he lost his place, everything went sideways. That 521 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: it's shane thing to do as a trial lawyer on 522 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: these Stanley law cases is to represent the wrongly accused 523 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: people with these dangerous protective orders and temporary restraining order claims. 524 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: And it's, you know, unfortunately, the way that the court 525 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: system works, it takes a long time for you to 526 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: realize that when someone presents an affidavit full of life 527 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: to a judge that looks very dangerous on its space, 528 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: and you've got a judge who has to make a 529 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: split second decision whether or not to sign that temporary 530 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: restraining order and kick a person out of the house 531 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: based on the claims made in that affidavit awful, and 532 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: then oftentime it's awful and it's dangerous, and it's a 533 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: it's a very critical moment in time, and usually you 534 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: get a hearing right away, but sometimes those hearings get delayed, 535 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: and that passage of time is what ruins this because 536 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: at that point, even though what was put into the 537 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: APPI David is a lie, that lie has grown and 538 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: managed to kick someone out of their home. And then 539 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: only weeks later do you come back to a hearing 540 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: where you can determine that that was a lie. And 541 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: by then the damage is done. That person's out of 542 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the home, and it's very hard to get back into 543 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: a home once you've been kicked out, especially in divorce, 544 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: it really is. And here he is in the hospital, 545 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: just trying to survive. Baron Lee joining us a miracle. Baron, 546 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: when you have heard about the text messages your ex 547 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: wife Sharon Kelly sent unless she wants to claim somebody 548 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: stole her friend and sent them. I got to hear 549 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: your response to text where she said to the seventeen 550 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: year old job unfinished after he shot you nine times, 551 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: you will need to complete unless it resolves on its own. 552 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: In other words, unless you died in the hospital. Did 553 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: you have any idea her hatred was so vile, so toxic. Yeah, 554 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: I mean I have. You know, I'm obviously trying to 555 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: tell my story and there's more to it. Um. Prior 556 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: to the shooting, she attempted to run me over twice 557 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: and this was you know, UM filed with the police 558 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: department as well. So was I capable? Was she capable 559 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: of this, you know, act with all as much as 560 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: she hated me? I wasn't surprised. I mean, you know, yeah, 561 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: I had reported it. Unfortunately, the way our system works, 562 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: so when you're in a family court battle, Um, even 563 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: the police at the time said, there's really not much 564 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: we can do. We have you have to go to 565 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: the judge and file and let the courts know. And 566 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately the family court systems here in Washington, 567 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't care. They didn't care enough to 568 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: believe me or or look into it, or at least 569 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: the investigate. I mean, Chris here is joining me People Magazine. 570 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: Isn't it true that as soon as Sharon Kelly learned 571 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: her husband apparently was going to survive, she began planning 572 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: a second assassination. That is definitely what police are alleging. Um. 573 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: And they actually started surveying her in the months after 574 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: the shooting to see if she was going to meet 575 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: up with the two team suspects. Um. Yeah, they they 576 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: they were. They were on to her pretty early. And yeah, 577 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: she was the focus of the investigation right away. Bear 578 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: and lady, did you realize she was planning as soon 579 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: as she got word that you were recovering in the hospital, 580 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: she was planning a second attempt on your life or you're, 581 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: according to you, a fourth attempt. Yeah, I knew. That's 582 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: why the police officers had emergency panic buttons in my home. 583 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I ever knew that she would back. One 584 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: of the reasons the police officers were so quick to 585 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: find her was obviously my you know, strong conviction about 586 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: it was her, you know, without a doubt. Throughout the investigation, 587 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: they never gave me any details, but after she was arrested, 588 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: they told me, you know, the process on how they 589 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: found her and everything. What's so crazy is you I'm 590 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: looking at a spot of her on Insta and she 591 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: looks like, you know, an Insta star. She's cooking some 592 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: fresh salad. It looks like beautiful woman, big smile. You 593 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: would never imagine what's going on in that head, according 594 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: to police. So berry Lee, how did they end up 595 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: arresting her? So basically they tracked, you know, used the 596 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: GPS tracker. They found that it was tied to her 597 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: because she had made the purchase. And then obviously they 598 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: were using tracking her text messages back and forth between 599 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: the two kids. And I remember that week they arrested her. 600 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: They say that that arrest is going to be made. 601 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: You're probably not going to have to send your son 602 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: on a visitation this week. And so that's when I 603 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: knew it was her. You know that they were going 604 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: to get her. At first, she was jailed with two 605 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: million dollars bond. Prosecutors go back and argue no bond. 606 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: They say, if Kelly is out of custody, barren Lay's 607 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: life is at risk. Baron, where is your son? Now? 608 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: He's with me at home? You know, he lives with 609 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: me full times. I actually, after a two years a 610 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: dependency trial that I had to go through between her 611 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: and myself, I was awarded him in two thousand or 612 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and he's been home with me since. At 613 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: the time, she had weekend visits until that was revoked 614 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: as well, and then she had supervised visits up to 615 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: her arrest, which I, you know, knowing that she had 616 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: done this to me, I had to send my son 617 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: every weekend to her, knowing that she was capable of 618 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: hurting him and hurting me. Still yet, you know, sometimes 619 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: I wonder how the courts can be so blind, But 620 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: I truly think it is a miracle from heaven that 621 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: you're alive, Your son is alive, and he is with you. 622 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 1: Chris Harris, When is this going to trial? We actually 623 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: don't have a trial date set yet. There's a backlog 624 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: obviously because of a pandemic. So according to Baron, and 625 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: he's been in touch with prosecutors there as well, it 626 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: might be a year or two before this actually goes 627 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: to court. But there's still no bond correct, still no bonds, 628 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: no um and But but the funny thing is that 629 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: even while she's in prison right now, she's still entitled 630 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: to video visits with Baron's son, which, you know, m 631 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: some may say that is really putting Baron and his 632 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: son out, but that's just the way the system works, 633 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: is that true? Does she have video visits with your son? Yeah, 634 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: she's responsible to facilitate them with the supervisors. Supposed to 635 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: pick my son up, take them to an undisclosed location, 636 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: and she's supposed to be able to get video visits 637 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: once a month. It hasn't happened yet because I haven't 638 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: been contacted, But that is her supposed to her right, 639 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: and I've fought hard as hard as they could against this, 640 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: but again, the court systems failed me and sailed my son. 641 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: So I can only imagine what she's going to say 642 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: to your son when she gets the chance. Apparently, Please 643 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: know that you are a walking miracle, and I fully 644 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: believe that you were kept on this earth for a reason, 645 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: and I'm anxious to find out what that reason is. 646 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: I think it was to raise your son happy and healthy. 647 00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: We wait as justice son falls. Nancy Grace cram Story 648 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend m