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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, It is me Rosi O'donald. How are you?

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Speaker 1: Today is Monday, even though we're dropping this on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about today, Monday, October two. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: on trial in New York for his fraud cases, and

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Speaker 1: it's already been decided that he can't do business in

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Speaker 1: New York anymore. And he's in big trouble. He's like cornered.

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Speaker 1: He's cornered like a rat, you know. And I just

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Speaker 1: hope that finally this will be enough to convince people

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Speaker 1: of his true essence. And it's been too long that

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Speaker 1: this has been going on. It really has enough, is

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Speaker 1: what I have to say. Enough. And speaking of enough,

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Speaker 1: that's the Cassidy Hutchinson book, and it's fantastic. It's so

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Speaker 1: well written, it's so honest, and it is so brave.

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Speaker 1: I've seen her on her interviews. She was amazing with

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Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow. She was wonderful on every show that she did.

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Speaker 1: And I encourage you to buy that book Enough by

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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson. And you know that's what I feel about Donald.

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Speaker 1: We've had enough of you, Okay, We've had enough of you.

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Speaker 1: I started it on the plane. I was in New

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Speaker 1: York for the weekend and got to see two of

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Speaker 1: my kiddos. I was in New York helping my future

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Speaker 1: daughter in law choose her wedding dress and also taking

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Speaker 1: Blake to get his tuxedo. But I have to tell you,

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Speaker 1: the place we went to in New Jersey was so gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: It was like the set of Say Yes to the Dress.

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Speaker 1: But it was just so fun. The whole thing was

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Speaker 1: so fun. And I'm getting so excited about the wedding.

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Speaker 1: And so my buddy Judy Gold is here, and I

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Speaker 1: love an adorer. She is a writer and an actress

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Speaker 1: and a mom and a wife and playwright, and she's amazing.

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Speaker 1: She's amazing, she really is, and I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to love her. She's a big proponent, as am I

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Speaker 1: of ending the Screen Actors Skilled after strike of the AMPTP,

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Speaker 1: coming up with a fair deal so that we all

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Speaker 1: can get back to work. Negotiations begin right now today

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Speaker 1: for settling the strike. So I'm wishing luck to our side,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Screen Actors Guilled and AFTRA and hope

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Speaker 1: that we get a deal just like the Writers Guild did.

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Speaker 1: So onward onward. Good for that, Judy Gold here she comes. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Judy Gold, Rosie, thank you for having me. Don't be silly,

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Speaker 1: it's been too long. I haven't seen you in like,

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Speaker 1: you know, six months, eight mind now long?

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Speaker 2: How you do You're in the Los Angeles area, but

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Speaker 2: you seem to really enjoy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Judy, I can tell you this the seasonal

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Speaker 1: affect depression, which I definitely have in New York from

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Speaker 1: November until March. Yeah, it's a struggle to survive for me.

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Speaker 1: And I used to always fly down to Florida because

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Speaker 1: I had a place there for so long yeap, and

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Speaker 1: without that option, you know, New York is a very

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Speaker 1: tough thing on my mental health. I hear you.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty percent. I've as I've gotten older.

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Speaker 2: You know, I need some light. Yes, I need to

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Speaker 2: go for a walk. I don't need to be cooped

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Speaker 2: up because it's freezing and it you know, it gets

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Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of times New York wins,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I'm spending my day battling, you know,

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Speaker 1: in New York more often than when I'm here. Do

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Speaker 1: I ever feel like, okay today the city won? You

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Speaker 1: know sometimes when I lived in Malibu and the PCH

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Speaker 1: traffic was was really backed up, I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: this is hell on earth, you know. But then you

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Speaker 1: walked in your house. In your backyard is the Pacific Ocean?

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Speaker 1: It was right? It was a dreamy rental for one year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we all don't have that the Pacific Ocean in our backyard.

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Speaker 1: Believe me, honey, I know, but if I did, I

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Speaker 1: would take advantage of it, just like you do. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how are the kids? So the kids are good? Bad?

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Speaker 1: At senior senior year in college at Trinity, he's the

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Speaker 1: captain of the basketball team and they're recruiting him to

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Speaker 1: play professional in Israel. Can you believe this? No? Is

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Speaker 1: he excited beyond words? Is he? First of all, he's

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Speaker 1: the tallest Jewish person I've ever seen. Yeah, he's gigantic.

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Speaker 1: He works so hard.

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of when I started doing stand up

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Speaker 2: and I was so like, I'm gonna I'm gonna be yes, focus, focus, focus,

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Speaker 2: And he's exactly like that. He goes to the gym

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Speaker 1: Now Judy. For those of you who don't know, uh

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Speaker 1: Is is the mother of two boys, two very wonderful, yes,

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Speaker 1: wonderful boys that I've known since they were born, and

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Speaker 1: it's very wild to see them now as grown adult humans.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel that way when you

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Speaker 1: it been since you've seen Parker?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of my It's been a while, but I

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Speaker 2: will never forget when you had Parker. He was a

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Speaker 2: teeny little baby week old. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I came over, I was he was the cutest, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was like and you know, you don't realize how

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Speaker 2: young you are, I mean, caress such little babies with babies.

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Speaker 1: I know when you look at the pictures and and

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Speaker 1: you know I was thirty three when I adopted him, right,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that's a pretty good age for mothering

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Speaker 1: to start. That's why I agree I should be in

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Speaker 1: the thirties. You should be in the thirties. Never in

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Speaker 1: the twenties, I would say. But I know people who

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Speaker 1: had kids in the twenties and they're very happy now

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Speaker 1: that their children are completely settled and there's grand babies

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Speaker 1: and they're still young enough to so there's there's something

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Speaker 1: found at least this go round because you know, Dakota,

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Speaker 1: I have a ten year old and I'm sixty two almost,

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Speaker 1: and I am a different parent to her than I

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Speaker 1: was to them because I was working. I was so busy, right,

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Speaker 1: more guidance and hands on communication needed. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: a communication disorder. So the goal to do twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven is communicate, get into their world. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's what you do for a living, is communicate. So well,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, I guess yeah, you thought, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: here to tell you, and yeah, it's so I know,

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Speaker 1: my ex Sharon now has two year old twins.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me now? And she's like, oh, it's

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Speaker 2: a whole different experience.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want two year old twins now,

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Speaker 1: my cousin just had a baby. She happens to live

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Speaker 1: like my second cousin, and I went over there and

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Speaker 1: for one Sunday, I had like four hours of holding

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Speaker 3: It was the happiest hours of my whole last year.

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Speaker 1: Like driving home, I had this you know it must

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Speaker 1: But then you have you know what's ahead, well, like

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Speaker 1: you're true in the midst of this stuff with schools

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff, you know that there's it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of responsibility. Well I never really thought, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess twenty three. So I never watched a kid

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Speaker 1: push away from their parents for independence. So the fact

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Speaker 1: You remember, Judy, I was crying. Yeah, I was crying

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Speaker 1: that Parker didn't want to go to the movies with

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Speaker 1: me anymore. I was. I took them to therapy and

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Speaker 1: he told the doctor, can you adjust her medication? No way?

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Speaker 1: He totally did, And then I realized he's probably right,

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Speaker 1: this is inappropriate behavior from me. I shouldn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: biggest love affair of my life. Of course, having a child,

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Speaker 1: and I think it is for every mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: It changes your whole exist everything, and it's everything's not

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Speaker 2: So I always took the kids to the projects to

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Speaker 2: play basketball because I wanted them to learn street ball,

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Speaker 2: because I thought it was like the best education in

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Speaker 2: everything and negotiating.

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Speaker 1: Now, is this because you knew they were going to

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Speaker 1: be tall and because you're tall and everyone alongside. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I was always like active and athletic, but not skilled.

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Speaker 1: But I love playing. I love to play outside, even

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Speaker 1: if like I played tennis every day, Like I think

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Speaker 2: We would go to Central Park with our mits and

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Speaker 2: we're walking over to the basketball court's me, Henry and Ben,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you talking about. I'm just mommy.

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Speaker 2: You can watch, but you're not playing with us, it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, oh my god, I can't. So

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Speaker 2: it was great, but yes, but it come up and yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it was the same thing. He's like, okay, now no,

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Speaker 2: you know, and you're like, it's not like you don't

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Speaker 1: To be so mean? I know they get mean, but

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Speaker 1: they have to to separate. It's like, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: see how that goes. I think that you mellow out

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Speaker 1: had older parents, But I wouldn't say my mother was mellow. No,

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Speaker 1: I miss your mother. I have to tell oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I miss you doing the impressions of her. I missed

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Speaker 1: the stories of her in the home she was and

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Speaker 1: yesterday was her birthday.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, she would have been one hundred and one.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's really I mean, you lost your mom

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Speaker 2: always felt lucky that I had my mother until I

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty fifteen, so I was I don't even right, right, But.

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Speaker 1: But you still I still go to call her. I

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Speaker 1: want to tell her stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like you it doesn't ever, and my father dropped dead

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Speaker 2: when I was twenty seven. I still every day, there's

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Speaker 2: not a day that goes by. Do you still think

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Speaker 2: about your mother every day?

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Speaker 1: Every day? Right? Well, when I look and I see

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Speaker 1: as a kid, I think I used to dream, you know,

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Speaker 1: that that she was kidnapped, because Patty Hurst was kidnapped

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Speaker 1: going to come back. Or when I was a kid

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Speaker 1: playing basketball in high school, I think she's going to

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Speaker 1: they they go, after they're gone. You know, did you

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Speaker 1: Like it is so awful. We'll be right back with

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Speaker 1: Judith's roommate, she was walking down the street. There was

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Speaker 2: After she died, there was this lift off my shop

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's part of life. It's part of

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Speaker 2: the strike, Judy Gold, I'm in total solidarity with the strike.

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Speaker 2: it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like they changed the whole equation by which

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do you see, like on

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Speaker 1: thing with Mitch McConnell. Okay, he's having these are logical things,

431
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to worry about health insurance.

432
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Speaker 4: You know.

433
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: Well, correct, there are definitely two societies and right in

434
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: which we are in one or the other, you know.

435
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: And and most of the people who get into the

436
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: upper echelon of earning in the entertainment business are few

437
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Speaker 1: and far between. Like that's what people don't understand. Ninety

438
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Speaker 1: somethings percent of the actors in the union don't make

439
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Speaker 1: enough money to get insurance, right, And the background actors

440
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna make like, uh, they're gonna take a screenshot likeness, yeah, exactly,

441
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: and then stick them in every single background scene. It's

442
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Speaker 1: like they pay them and not pay them. How could

443
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: we really alienate the artists in this equation? And that's

444
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: what they did. Yeah, yeah, that's and I thought Fran

445
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: was amazing. I thought she was, uh you know.

446
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Speaker 4: You know that.

447
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: And they came to me first and said, would you

448
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: do it? I'm like, are you kidding me? When I argue,

449
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: I get mean when I'm upset and emotional, like, yeah,

450
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: to your mind, you don't want me negotiating for you?

451
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: Trust me? I said, but you know, I think would

452
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: be fantastic Fran dresser And they're like genoa. I'm like,

453
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: very well. And I went over and I talked to

454
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Speaker 1: her and I said, you only got two days to decide.

455
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: Here's the people. But I think with all of her cancer,

456
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: smancer and lobbying Washington, how are particulate how smart she is?

457
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: And she's so smart. Yeah, and she knows it from

458
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, inside her souls. You know, she's really something else.

459
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: And we had dinner last night and I said to her,

460
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Speaker 1: are you aware of her? Yeah? I go, are you

461
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Speaker 1: aware of how many billions of people viewed your speech?

462
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: She goes, it's very she said, my whole life has

463
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: changed from that, you know, really, yes, yes, wow, her

464
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: whole life is sort of you know, they're not arguing.

465
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: The union had argued for years there were two different

466
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Speaker 1: factions like the Democrats and the Republicans. Rather the two

467
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: can meet. Now they're all unified behind her, and all

468
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: the people that couldn't find a way to everybody get along,

469
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: they're all getting along and they all credit her. You know. Now,

470
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: of course some of the executives are not thrilled with her.

471
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: Maybe we're forcing them to look but you know what

472
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: to look in a member for the first time. Yes, exactly,

473
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: that's just staying true, you know. And they probably went

474
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Speaker 1: to you because comedian, Like, there's no it's not a

475
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Speaker 1: coincidence that any time there is like a panel show

476
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Speaker 1: that they have a comedian on, because comedians tell the truth.

477
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: They speak truth to power.

478
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Speaker 2: They have this weapon called humor where they can make

479
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 2: their point and disarm other people.

480
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Speaker 1: And you know her, she she was theer. I mean,

481
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Speaker 1: she was really speaking for everyone, yes, and not just

482
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Speaker 1: either everyone who's involved in a job where she said

483
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: this is yes, this is for big every union. Yeah, right,

484
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: bigger than us. It's bigger than us, and you know,

485
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: for us to stay motivated as a union and connected

486
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: and unified and you know, I know it's really hard,

487
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: but but it's now or never. The business is then

488
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: completely owned and operated by a corporate entity and we

489
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: have no negotiating power because basically they've said we're valueless,

490
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: we can be replaced by a machine. And how you're

491
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: going to get human pathos? What what it means to

492
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: be alive? In a script from something that isn't.

493
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it really, it's it really, like is

494
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: a punch in the gut when you're a writer and

495
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: a performer that you think, you know, you go in,

496
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: you pitch to these people and you put you know,

497
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: you put everything into it, you know, every you know,

498
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: like they don't realize the amount of work people do

499
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: just to go in and pitch a fucking show and

500
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: they treat you like.

501
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Pleisa, I want some mool like Oliver, right, and you're

502
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Speaker 1: the one coming to them with the gifts with the

503
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: right right right. Yeah, it's very it's been very Uh

504
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Speaker 1: you know, I Montreal for the Just for Last festival

505
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: this year, and I noticed that.

506
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: The people in Canada are in a much better mood

507
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: than we are. Yes, like, and I'm like.

508
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They don't have to worry about health insurance.

509
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: No one's like walking down the street like I was

510
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: in the middle, you know, just for laughs, like they

511
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: take takes over all of Montreal. There's tense up. There's

512
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: people everywhere, thousands of people, Like I hosted Montclair Pride

513
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: this year in New Jersey, and I was like, what

514
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: if someone comes with a gun, Like I'm all, listens,

515
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: you should be. We're being hunted and persecuted, and it's

516
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: and it's sanctioned by the government by morons like DeSantis

517
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: and our former president and Lackeys. I mean, what do

518
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: you think is going to happen with that, Judy? What

519
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: do you think ninety one indictments? What do you think?

520
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, you know this because I've

521
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: texted you a thousand times, Like I'm like, Okay, this

522
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Speaker 2: is it.

523
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: This is it.

524
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Like I said, I've been there one hundred times already,

525
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Speaker 2: and I.

526
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Speaker 1: I gotta believe that. I just I what I can't

527
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Speaker 1: believe is that these people still don't even if you're

528
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: a Republican, which you know, when I was a kid,

529
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats they weren't that different. I mean, it was.

530
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't like this person is a horrible person because

531
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: they're Republican. It was a whole different ideology. But these

532
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: people are evil, horrible people.

533
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: And it is the fact that these that we're I mean,

534
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: they've dumped us down in this country.

535
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 2: Fox News is entertainment news. It is not real news, right,

536
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: No one reads local papers where most of the great

537
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: reporting comes from.

538
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: They're dying a slow and well a fast death.

539
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Now it's it's really it's so sad.

540
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: And and I talk about this Mayak.

541
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: Now, when you go overseas and you say you're from

542
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: the United States, they speak to you like you are

543
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: currently in an abusive relationship.

544
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Correct, you know, that's a great analogy, like are you okay,

545
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: how are you staying? What's you know? And it's used

546
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: to be like people were like, oh, I want to

547
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: come to America now no, and what kenda? They have

548
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: a warning, a travel warning for LGBTQ people coming to

549
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: the United States, of course, as they should. What's happening

550
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: here in this and to trans people especially, but all

551
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: of the LGBTQ community. They've put targets on everyone's back.

552
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: And you know, this wonderful woman who was an allied mother.

553
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't nine kids, Yes, and owned a

554
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: store and a friend of Carolyn Strauss, good friend of

555
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Michael Patrick King shot dead because she had a gay

556
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: flag outside of her her shop. Not gay, It is

557
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: an ally. It is not dead. Who cares? Who fucking cares?

558
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: Who?

559
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: You fall in love? Like what I never understood? Like

560
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: I have a partner and kids, and we live in

561
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: our apartment and they go to school. But how does

562
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: my life have anything to do with your life down

563
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: the street, Like what I'm doing with my kid, Like,

564
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: how does that have any effect on you and how

565
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: you're bringing your kids up? Well, it'll allows people to

566
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: feel superior to and some people feel so powerless that

567
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: they look for people to be superior of, you know, right,

568
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's so horrifying. It's hate. It's hate.

569
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: It's hate.

570
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: It's just the oldest hate and the and the racism

571
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: and the anti Semitism and the xenophobia. It's like, we're

572
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: just a hate They're just hateful.

573
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wrote a wonderful Yeah, well you wrote a

574
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: wonderful book about when they Come for the Comedians. Yeah,

575
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was really well received.

576
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: People loved that book. Yeah, people loved it and it

577
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: became a show. And now I'm hopefully touring the show

578
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: and I'm going to come to that.

579
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: That's great. When when are you doing that? I don't know.

580
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: The spring it's so hard to the theaters are not

581
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: doing well, Rosie.

582
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Speaker 1: I know it's hard times. You know.

583
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing about the book I wrote is that

584
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Speaker 2: what I couldn't understand is like a comedian tells a joke,

585
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: you don't like, they should never be able to get

586
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: on stage again. But politicians who literally incite violence, disparage people,

587
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: spread conspiracy theories. They their First Amendment rights are protected

588
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: because they're powerful.

589
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: And yet you're going after the comedians who tell the truth.

590
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: And it's really it's terrible. I mean, comedy, stand up

591
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Speaker 1: comedy is the is a direct extension of our First

592
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: Amendment rights here. I mean, what other country sends comedians

593
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: to their embedded military to make them feel better? Right,

594
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: you're so right, Like it's a part of our culture. Yeah,

595
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: and you're attacking us and the Gaze and all the

596
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: people who make your life better. Yeah, it's so true too.

597
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: It's so weird to be this age and fighting again.

598
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: For abortion rights. It's so weird, going what is this?

599
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: It's like shoots and ladders. We hit the shoot and

600
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: went all the way down to the bottom. Again, how

601
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: did this happen? Where are the women's you know, screaming

602
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: in the streets and stopping working? And you know, I

603
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: don't know, we've been lulled into complacency and all of

604
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: this hard fought rights that we won are just being

605
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: pissed away.

606
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the one thing I don't think my

607
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: mother would even be able to deal with is the

608
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: abortion situation right right. Her sister's alive and she can't

609
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: fucking believe like it's you know, they fought for that,

610
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: yes they died. Misogyny is but they hate women in

611
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Speaker 2: this country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. This is a really positive judy. Well,

613
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: you know we can always you know, put a laugh

614
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: track on for you, would you like that? Yeah, this

615
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: good thing's happening. We just got to get, you know,

616
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: through this crisis of right and we got to get

617
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: rid of these assholes. And we need like strong women.

618
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: We need strong women, and we need younger people. We

619
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: need term limits, yes we do. We need age limits

620
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: as well. If you ask and how is George Santos

621
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: still there? Is that exactly? Why is he not, you know, ostracized?

622
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 2: And because he's a vote for them, he's a vote

623
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Speaker 2: and they don't want to get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: They're just all, yeah, I can't listen. Judy Gold, I

625
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: love you. I love you so much.

626
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: You are one of the you know, there's been three

627
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: women I think who've really helped me through my career,

628
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: and you were the first. Uh it was Margaret Chow

629
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Speaker 2: and you and Pamela Ablon and without without the support

630
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: of you know, these women, I you know, I don't

631
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Speaker 2: know where i'd be and I have Well, you know what, honey,

632
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: you support women, and you do so much for gay

633
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: people and for marginalized people.

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Speaker 1: And you got a heart of gold. Judy Gold, Oh thanks,

635
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: got a heart of gold. Uh So we'll we'll say goodbye.

636
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: But where can they find you? On the tiki talk

637
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Speaker 1: on low? You know, I'm at Judy Gold j E

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Speaker 1: W D y g O l D T jud and

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Speaker 1: or Judygold dot com is j U D y g

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Speaker 1: O l D dot com and that has all my

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Speaker 1: dates and everything. All right, great, so go find her

642
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Speaker 1: there if you haven't seen her live. Please do it

643
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Speaker 1: please really funny. All right, well listen, I love you,

644
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Speaker 1: say hi you Okay, Well same to you, bye bye. Okay.

645
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a little break and come back with

646
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: voice memos left by you, the listeners that I will

647
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: hear for the first time and respond to. So thank

648
00:38:43,080 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: you so much everybody who's been sending those in. Okay, Well,

649
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: here we are that part of the show where we

650
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: get to hear from you the listener, And I'm very

651
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: grateful for all the messages, most of them so unbearably sweet.

652
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: It's really touching, I have to tell you. But any comments,

653
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: questions you have hit me with them, and we got

654
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: one right now.

655
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Speaker 4: Hi, Rosie. My name is Jill and I live in

656
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: Melburn and Washington, just north of Seattle, and I wanted

657
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 4: to say to you that I so appreciate how you

658
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: talk about Dakota and hearing parents talk about the incredible

659
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: gifts and the joy that their child brings to them

660
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: who has a disability or who has autism just is

661
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 4: amazing because I have a child with autism, and when

662
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: he was diagnosed, I was devastated and had no picture

663
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: of what the future could look like and was just

664
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Speaker 4: in uncharted waters and had no idea about the incredible

665
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: person he was going to grow up to be. And

666
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: he's twenty one now, and he works and he rides

667
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: his bike in a bus and he is charming and

668
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: sweet and wonderful and so smart. And I wish I

669
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: could have seen when he was diagnosed at age five

670
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: what he is now, because it would have reassured me

671
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: so much. And you talking about Dakota the way you

672
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Speaker 4: do and lifting them up and appreciating all of the

673
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: wonderful things that they are means so much to your

674
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 4: parents like me who may not know all the joys

675
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Speaker 4: in the wonder that can be a part of having

676
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Speaker 4: a child with autism. And then I wanted to ask you.

677
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Speaker 4: I've heard you refer to Dakota as being autistic, and

678
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Speaker 4: I always prefer to use the terminology my child has autism,

679
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: just because I don't know. It just kind of bugs me.

680
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: So I wanted to just point that out and see

681
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: what you think, and thank you again for sharing your

682
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Speaker 4: experience with your child, because there's so many of us

683
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Speaker 4: who don't have someone to talk to or any reference

684
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: for it, and to hear the love and appreciation you

685
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Speaker 4: have for your child is really inspiring to me. Thank

686
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 4: you so much.

687
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Speaker 1: Bye weow. Thank you, Jill. What a beautiful, beautiful message.

688
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Speaker 1: I remember the panic and the terror I felt when

689
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Speaker 1: I was told that Dakota had autism at about two

690
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Speaker 1: and a half and I knew something was up. I

691
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: totally agree with you that I sometimes do say my

692
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: kid is autistic as opposed to my kid has autism

693
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Speaker 1: because they are not autistic only. You don't want to

694
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: be identified by the thing that is maybe different in

695
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: you than other people. And I think that's a very

696
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: good note and I am. I'm so grateful for the

697
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Speaker 1: autism community of autism mothers that I've become friends with

698
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: and really feel that I'm surrounded by people who get

699
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: what I'm going through and it's so lovely just to

700
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: pop in and listen on their lives and respond to

701
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: their beautiful videos where they too are seeing the beauty

702
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: in the uniqueness of people with autism. Love to you

703
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: and drop in on my TikTok. Thank you, Thank you

704
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: very much. We got another question coming in right now.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Rosie. My name is Andrew. I'm forty three years

706
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 5: old and live in New York City. When I was

707
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Speaker 5: eleven years old. My mother took me in nineteen ninety

708
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Speaker 5: one to the baseball field in Evansville, Indiana, in my hometown,

709
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Speaker 5: and I was just told it would be a special day.

710
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 5: It turns out it was a casting call to be

711
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 5: extras in a league of their own. Next thing I know,

712
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Speaker 5: we're in a trailer putting on clothing from the nineteen forties,

713
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Speaker 5: and they usher us up into the baseball stands and

714
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Speaker 5: we had a lot of instructions on how to behave

715
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Speaker 5: and how to act that day, and we were not

716
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Speaker 5: supposed to ask for autographs. But during a break, I

717
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 5: did go down. I was a young kid, so me

718
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 5: and a few other kids made it down to the

719
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Speaker 5: dugout and we were trying to get people's attention, and

720
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Speaker 5: you were there along with We could see Tom Hanks,

721
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Speaker 5: Geena Davis, Madonna. We were trying to get autographs and

722
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 5: you were so kind. You were the one that came

723
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Speaker 5: over to us and spoke to us and got to

724
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 5: know us, and we're just really nice to us. I

725
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 5: have vivid memories of that interaction. And you took my

726
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: popcorn bag and you helped me get my autographs. It's funny.

727
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 5: Thirty years later. I don't care about the autographs, but

728
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 5: I'm so glad that I had that interaction with you

729
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 5: because it's funny.

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Speaker 1: You know.

731
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Speaker 5: The other three actors were probably super exciting to me

732
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: at the time, but little did I know it would

733
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 5: be you that would have the positive impact on my

734
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Speaker 5: life growing up as a gay kid in the nineties

735
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: and trying to find my footing in life and being

736
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Speaker 5: able to watch your show and listen to you be

737
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 5: truthful and honest about your life and as a comedian.

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Speaker 5: So I'm very appreciative of you, and I feel like

739
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Speaker 5: I've known you all these thirty years, So thank you

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Speaker 5: for everything. My question is about filming that movie and

741
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: what it was like. I have a lot of memories

742
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 5: that day of you know, from Penny Marshall to the cast,

743
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 5: and are there any stories or anecdotes you can share

744
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: about working with Penny Marshall or filming Baseball.

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Speaker 1: That would be great.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Rosie.

747
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Oh you got me all choked up. That was so beautiful.

748
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: I had such a great time on that movie. It

749
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: was my first really big movie. I did a little

750
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: film before that, Car fifty four, Where Are You, which

751
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: wasn't ever released until way after Leag of their Own,

752
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: But Leag of their Own will be always my favorite

753
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: movie that I did because of the friendships I made

754
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: and the people I met. And I miss Penny Marshall.

755
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Almost every day. I think of her, and you know,

756
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: really breaks my heart that she's gone. Here's a story

757
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: that I don't know if I've told yet, although I'm

758
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: old now, honey, so I might have told the story.

759
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: But this is a good Penny Marshall story. First of all,

760
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: every day at about three o'clock, she'd scream with her

761
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: shorts and her muscletop Bonney got me bacon. She got

762
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: a plate of bacon every day at three o'clock, crispy,

763
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: well done, and she would just sit there and eat

764
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: the bacon every day for like an hour. And one

765
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: day we were filming the scene where the little boy

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Speaker 1: still Well gets hit by a baseball mit and then

767
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: he has to fall down. Now, by this point, I

768
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: was kind of the Stillwell wrangler because he and I

769
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: formed a friendship and we liked each other. And he

770
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: would always look for me because he was only like

771
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: five years old, you know, so he would look for me,

772
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: and I would like put my hand to my mouth

773
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: like I was eating the candy and he'd look at

774
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: me and he'd do what I was doing. And they

775
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: hit him with the mitt and he kept flinching, and

776
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: they hit him again and he flinched more, and they

777
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: hit him one more time, and Penny said.

778
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Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? We can't like the kit

779
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: is like blowing the gams. He can't know he's gonna

780
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Speaker 3: get go. He's five, he doesn't know. I said, let

781
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: me go talk to him. So I did this that

782
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: I feel guilty to this day. I walked over and

783
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: talked to him and said, how you doing, buddy. He's

784
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: like it wasn't too bad. I'm like, great, you know,

785
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: here's the thing. We don't have to throw them in anymore.

786
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: We're just gonna do the lines.

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Speaker 1: Can you do that? He yeah, for sure. So I go,

788
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: just do the lines and don't throw the mit. So

789
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: we did that and he was so happy. He was like,

790
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: didn't I do great? I'm like, yeah, I go. We're

791
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna do it one more time, just like that, and

792
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: he says okay. So Tom throws the mit. It hits

793
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: the kid. He has a total look of being shocked

794
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: because he did not expect to be hit by the

795
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: mit and then he looked at me and I fell

796
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: down like he was supposed to, and then he fell down.

797
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: So what you see in the movie is this cute

798
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: little boy mimicking what I was doing. But the thing

799
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: that broke my heart was after it was over, I

800
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: ran over and he hugged me and he said, can

801
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: you believe they didn't tell us they were gonna throw

802
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: the mit? Oh? It killed me. I broke his trust,

803
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: you know. But I love Penny. I loved little stillwell,

804
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, Madonna, Geina, Davis, tom All still friends of mine.

805
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: All still people I see and love. And it's a

806
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: great life and a great career I've had. And to

807
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: hear from people like you about how I've changed their

808
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: lives and it's very overwhelming and it's unbelievably touching. So

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00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: thank you, Annie, thank you very much. I hope you

810
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: enjoyed today's podcast. Next week, Amy Nelson who is Amy Nelson.

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Speaker 1: She's the mother of four little girls. She's married, and

812
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: Amazon is suing her husband and has been for many

813
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: years for a violation of his work contract, which the

814
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: judge already said he never violated. So it's a fascinating story,

815
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: and she makes it easy to understand, but you still

816
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: will be shocked and appalled at the lengths Amazon has

817
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: gone to try to get this family to admit guilt

818
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: when they had none. Amy Nelson next week, right here.

819
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: Thank you, everybody, appreciate it. TikTok, you don't stop. Oh

820
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: onward here we go. Bye,