WEBVTT - Draft Show: An Exciting First Night 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:10.239 Uncertainty such a popular word in our world recently, one 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.720 that reminds us that we never know what each new 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.800 day brings. However, we do know that today brings hope 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.639 that as we pull together apart, we can finally celebrate 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:29.520 what the future holds. This weekend, two hundred and fifty 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.360 five dreams will come true as professional football welcomes in 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:39.520 a new wave of talent. The NFL's Roaring twenties officially 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.640 kick off tonight. It's the twenty twenty NFL Draft on 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:53.519 Dallas Cowboys dot com. The following is a production of 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.440 the Dallas Cowboys Media Group and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.880 Welcome to Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live Bumper to Mumper 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:14.200 coverage of the NFL Draft with David Hellman, Kevin Turner, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:19.959 Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches, draft picks, and special guests. Now 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:26.679 your host, Kyle y Yeomans, And it is the twenty 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.880 twenty INFL Draft here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.640 looks a little bit different than drafts that we've had 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.360 in the past. It's all virtual, all socially distant, and 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:42.399 this is going to be a fun and interesting night 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.480 to say the least as we get you ready for 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.160 two hundred and fifty five picks. We've got two hundred 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.200 and fifty five picks over the next three days. This 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.840 is going to be incredible. Kyle Yeoman's, Dave Hellman, Dane Brugler, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.840 and Kevin Turner all with you here for the Dallas 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:03.000 Cowboys dot Com Draft show. And Dave, you're looking very 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.360 dapper this evening, even though you're socially distant and you're 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.240 on your couch, You're looking great. Man. I have a 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.840 tradition to uphold Kyle. I know this is your first 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.000 go round, but on Thursday night we wear ties. So 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.600 I'm in my living room instead of the studio. I 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.640 don't care. I'm dapper, got my draft guy, got my TV, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.560 got my Miller Lite. I'm ready to pick some players. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.839 Let's do this thing. Bar ready, And of course we've 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.720 got the great Dane Brugler in the house from the 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.720 Athletic all the way from Ohio. Dane, so glad you're back. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:37.840 And it seems like a tradition in its own to 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.080 have you as a part of some of the Dallas 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.840 Cowboys draft coverage. Tell you what at this time last 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.440 year I thought it was going to be my final 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.840 draft show and then pumping to you guys to combine 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.480 and say let's do this, let's do this again, and 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.200 then it just worked out perfectly. You know, I have 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:01.560 just had this special relationship with Cowboys fans that started, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.680 you know, six seven years ago now, and I really 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:09.079 enjoy talking draft with everybody. So this is gonna be 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.000 a fun three days. Can't wait at with us today. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.680 He's the first round man. As always, Kat, it's not 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.960 your first go round either, but it is wanted to remember, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.399 no doubt about it. No, this is gonna be really exciting. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.000 And the fact that Dave wore a tie kind of 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.360 embarrassment a little bit. But I get the sweet Draft 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:34.239 show shirts. Yeah, sponsored by Miller Lite of course, there 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.160 we go. So yeah, and I'm really excited picking in 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.520 the middle again. That seems to happen almost every other 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.440 year with the Cowboys kind of picking right there in 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.360 the middle. But it's gonna be an exciting tonight. Not 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:52.520 for many reasons. A lot of uncertainties, trades, miscommunications, perhaps, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.040 what are the Cowboys gonna do? What's the rest of 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.200 the league gonna do? There's a lot of questions about 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.600 this year, maybe maybe more so than any year that 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.480 I can really remember. I think that's really kind of 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.920 the intriguing part, and it kind of adds to the 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.760 fun of draft night. I mean, what's so fun about 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.800 the draft in the first place. It's the fact that 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.960 there's uncertainty, there's that intrigue of things could go so 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.280 terribly wrong. But at the same time, it gives you 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.719 hope for the future. That's kind of that back and 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.320 forth tuggle boar that you have with the NFL Draft, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.280 and then you throw in the wrench of what our 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.680 society has had to deal with over the past couple 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.960 of months. It adds to that as well, gives us 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.280 a chance to take a break and to live a 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.039 little bit in our sports teams like we would normally. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.800 And as it being my first draft to be with 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.599 you guys, it's one that I'm never going to forget. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.720 I'll tell you that much about it. But I'm certainly 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.440 ready to get into some of these prospects. And we've 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.440 got the first thirty two picks today. Like ka team mentioned, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.520 picking in the middle of the first round, the Cowboys 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.960 pick at seventeen. It should be right around nine o'clock 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.160 just before nine o'clock is when the Cowboys would be 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.240 making their pick. Will be all the way up through 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.880 all thirty two picks today and then all two hundred 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.919 and fifty five over the course of the weekend. But Dane, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.120 you put out a mock draft today, your final mock draft, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.640 and the Cowboys kind of, at least over the last 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.040 couple of weeks, it's been interchangeable who they could go with. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.599 Who did you have with the Cowboys at seventeen in 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:22.480 your final mock draft? Yeah, And it's tough because I 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.720 think CJ. Anderson Florida is a player that they love 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.839 to have and played on Chase On a pass rusher 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.400 at LSU is a player I think they'd love to have. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.440 And it's tough to see one of those two guys following. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.760 But in my final lock, one of them big a 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:44.560 player that obviously uh, Dave is very familiar with. Uh uh. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:49.520 This team added to pass Alden's man, uh, but they're 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.040 not done. They're gonna still add some more pass rush 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.240 talent and I think they can do that for a round. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:59.200 In Chase on follow the seventeen speed, off the edge, explosiveness, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.480 He's not a free to extend, convert that speed to 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:08.560 power rock tackles into the batfields. Joe Burrow ladwords player, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.720 all those offensive playmakers at LSU had was a big 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:16.080 part of why they won the national title was defensive dudes. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.520 We're gonna hear their name called tonight, SA LSU is 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.560 can be pretty well represented and one of those guys 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.039 could end up in Dallas in the first round. What 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.160 do you think about that? Yeah, I mean I just 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.280 have to embrace it. Like, obviously, everybody knows I got 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.800 Patrick Peterson over my shoulder right here. Everybody knows where 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.840 I went to school, But I swear to God it 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.520 really has nothing to do with the fact that I 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.520 graduated from LSU. I mean, Dane's done enough drafts with me. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.159 I think he knows. You know, I'm not just a 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.960 blind homer for LSU prospects. But when you think about 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.440 what the Cowboys need where they're drafting, what this first 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:00.440 round presents, I think Calevan Chason is about as best 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.960 case scenario as you could add for c Jaerson would 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.960 be amazing. I think that's a little of a pipe dream. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.560 I could be wrong. We're gonna find out here in 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.560 the next couple hours, but I think it's far more 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.320 likely Chason is there for you at seventeen. And when 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.720 you consider your other options, would they love a cornerback shirt? 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:20.240 But his Chason have more upside than the other cornerbacks available. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.520 I think so. And that's why you know he's not 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.600 a perfect prospect. He's definitely not bustproof, but there's so 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.360 much upside and so much potential. I just think when 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.160 you're picking in the back half of the round, that's 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.640 a pretty best case scenario if he falls there for you. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.440 This is where the game gets really fun watching names 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.080 come off the board, picking a guy that you like. 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.880 If you're a Cowboys fan, you might have a couple 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.960 of guys on your short list. It kind of maybe 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.320 checking off who might be there. Well, four quarterbacks go 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:52.200 before the Cowboys pick at seventeen. Does Miami end up 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.680 taking a quarterback knowing that Miami picks at eighteen, that 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:57.920 could be an interesting thing. If Miami doesn't take a 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.520 quarterback at five, maybe they want quarterback at eighteen. Well, 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.560 if you want to get ahead of Miami, you gotta 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.000 call Dallas at seventeen to get ahead of them. So 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.800 that opens up some possibilities as well. I think we're 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.160 just in for quite a ride. This is gonna be 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.760 terribly fascinating, not only from a Cowboys perspective, but from 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.360 the rest of the league as well, because you're just 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.000 looking at this and this can fall a number of 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.800 different ways, especially right there and picks ten through twenty. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:27.280 I think, kind of intriguingly, going off of what you 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.920 just said, Katie, it's not just the Cowboys to have 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.480 a lot wide open. It really starts with the third, fourth, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.120 fifth pick, and then so on and so forth. There's 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.040 so many question marks going into this first round. What 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.280 kind of scenarios, Dane, are we going to see kind 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.079 of play out early on? This is the chaos is 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.360 going to start at three. I think we feel pretty 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.200 good about one, we feel pretty good about two, But 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.079 then what's going to happen at three and risk some 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.960 trade action. We're gonna see some different things happen, and 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.520 it's gonna be interesting to see. You know, team mentioned 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.800 the quarterbacks. How many quarterbacks going to top six? We 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.160 know Joe Burrows going one, but then what about Justin Herbert? 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.720 What about two? Of what's going to happen with these quarterbacks? 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.160 That's really going to I think, set the stage for 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.440 the trades that are going to happen. And then the 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.680 tackles are coming off the board. It's just there's a 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.520 lot of dominoes in front of the Cowboys that really 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.920 are going to make these things, make it interesting to 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.480 see who falls. And then, like I said, teams are 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.640 gonna be aggressive. I think, you know, the Broncos, the Falcons, 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.720 the two teams right in front of the Cowboys at seventeen. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 I wouldn't be surprised at off we see both of 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.240 those teams or at least one move up to go 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:42.360 get a player they're looking at. I see a deal 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.839 getting done Dave over the next couple of moments that 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.760 could ultimately make a difference in that first top five 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.959 before um wow, man, that would be intriguing. I mean, God, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.880 we've talked about the Dolphins and the Lions so much 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.000 it's it's been beaten into the ground. U I think 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.240 at this point we're fifteen minutes out. I mean, if 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.600 something's gonna happen, unless I'm missing something live on Twitter, 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.120 something's gonna happen. I feel like it'll happen when these 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.360 teams go on the clock, I think it was gonna 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.000 happen ahead of time. They could have ironed it out 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.240 by now. I think typically when the bullets start flying 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.440 is when these things kind of come together. It depends 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.320 on like how many of those teams want to get 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.920 aggressive there and move up, you know, Like I'm sure 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.080 the Giants at four might be a team that might 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:29.959 might want to get out of there a little bit 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.200 and move back. Maybe even Detroit would want to move back. Perhaps, 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.360 But if no one's really calling and knocking on the doors, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.760 like we've seen in years past, where there's been trade 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.160 ups for guys like Mitch Drubisky, there's been trade ups 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.840 for guys like Carson Wentz to get up to the 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.360 top two. I mean, if there's not someone really knocking 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.040 on the door to really go up to and what 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.319 we assume would be TUA in that case we assume 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.640 at quarterback, then you know, maybe there's not gonna be 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.839 able to be much business done up top. And that's 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:01.559 I think the business is going to be done. As 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.520 Dane was alluding to a minute ago, Atlanta and Denver. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.360 You know, that's the range of teams that might want 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.040 to move up a little bit and that's also kind 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.600 of where it's where Dallas is sitting at seventeen. I 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.360 think there's some interesting teams at the back end of 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.559 the top ten. What's jackton Ville been in? Are they 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.720 really gonna just roll out Gardner Minshoo next year and 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.880 go for it? Like there's so many fascinating teams with 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:27.560 so many decisions to make, And I just I think 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.160 we're gonna see a lot of trades in a lot 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.600 of chaos tonight. I think this is the worst year 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.160 possible for that, given the circumstance stances of doing this 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.160 virtually and social distancing. But I do feel like we're 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.120 probably looking at five, six, seven trades tonight that could happen, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.280 and another bit of intrigue tonight and the overall weekend. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.120 And I know earlier today we were on Fox Sports 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.520 Southwest for Cowboys Draft Day Insider, and Rob Phillips came 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.079 out and said that he thinks that they're going to 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.800 break the record for trades because you're sitting around on 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.559 your phones and you're in your room, things could get 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.520 a little bit nuts. I don't think that's the case. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.560 By no means do I foresee nineteen trades going on 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.600 but how do you guys kind of see that happening 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.600 with the technology, with the virtual side of this whole thing. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.280 Is there a possibility that trades are really kind of 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.880 dialed back? I think you go either way. I think 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.160 I think fans would be surprised how many trades are 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:30.040 actually how many. The framework happened during the week before. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.440 That's when teams really have a chance to lay out 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.720 what they're looking for. If player A is here, that's 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.560 when we would possibly move up. I mean, all the 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.200 groundwork has been laid, so it's not like I don't 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.360 think that we're gonna have a scenario where teams are 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.320 cut off guard, where okay, we're out of options, so 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.320 let's get on the phone try to work a last 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.079 minute deal. All the framework has been laid, so they 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.840 know who could call. We're teams looking to move up, 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.160 if they want to move up, who they can move 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.959 up with. So you know, there's a lot of interesting 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.160 teams that are willing to move And it starts three 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.880 and four. The Lions and the Giants then really started 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.920 to get interesting. I think the main the main headlines. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.520 I think in the top half of round one two, 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.680 we're dego the tackles, how many tackles go top ten, 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.679 top twelve. And in the trade action, I do think 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.760 we're going to see plenty of trade action happening, and 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.440 it's it's going to be interesting to see how that 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.000 shakes thinks, goes Dane, I wanna. I've been thinking about 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.240 that since we kick this off. I read your mock 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.920 this morning. I think to bring it back to the Cowboys. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.040 That's what's so fascinating to me is you think, and 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:42.599 I'm right there with you, there's no guarantee that C. J. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:47.199 Henderson Calevan Chason are available at seventeen, right, right, But 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:51.200 if those guys go, and you got three wide receivers 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.719 who probably go, you know, there's ninety five tackles that 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.080 are in consideration in the first round of this draft. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.400 If those two guys are not availing a bowl, it 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.520 seems like a pretty good bet that somebody we're not 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.880 counting on could be pushed down into that seventeenth draft spot. 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.600 And that's that's a good point. Especially we'll see how 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.000 many quarterbacks go to go out of the Cowboys that 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.720 that's another factor that put one of these players down. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:21.240 And we've talked so much about guys like Javone kin Law. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.400 And you know, whether the team they made some important 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.000 free Asian editions at the defensive tackle squot, would they 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.640 still go with a kin Law? You know, there's some 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.560 metal stuff you got to worry about there. If they 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.040 get wiped out in their top two walls, which we 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.840 assume the top seaquahings with Jason and Henderson, then I 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.040 think we're looking at corner right, Is that what we're thinking? 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.920 AJ Terrell Travon Digs. That seems like the most logical 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.800 approach that where they'd be looking at seventeen based on 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.560 my social media feed. Uh. And I maybe not be 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.800 helping with this because I don't have a J. Terrell 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.480 is one of my top five cornerbacks rated. Uh, Dane, 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.360 Can we go ahead and talk about AJ Terrell a 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:04.880 little bit because that has been a name that's been 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.600 bounced about a lot, and I think Cowboys fans may 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.600 want to know. Okay, why does it seem like the media, 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.720 at least here locally is kind of down on AJ Terrell? Uh? 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.480 Because you know, that's a that's a scary thing for 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.320 some fans if that name gets out there and then like, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.440 well everyone's saying that he's not very good. He's a 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.120 good player. Why don't you give us a little bit 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.960 more on him? Yeah, I think he picked the two 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.920 worst games to play his worst football and at the 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:33.240 final two games of the year for Clemson and notably 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.640 in a national title game or a Jamark case just 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.360 kind of had his way up and down the field. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.280 But it, you know, context being what it is, Jamar 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.240 Chase is if he were in the draft, you'd be 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.200 the first receiver drafted, probably among the top ten. But 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.800 the body of work for a j terrell Is is 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.560 still pretty impressive. He is a big body, corner, very 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:56.680 good athlete at six four for two in the forty 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.000 year dash. So I think when you look at the 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.840 totality of this player in college, the full body of work, 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:06.360 you see a quality player. Now twenty that's still be 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.680 a little rich for me, just my personal opinion. But still, 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:12.360 they don't make corners that are six one that run 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.720 four for two, just you know, they're just hanging out 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.160 there waiting to be picked. This is a talented player 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.280 who if he doesn't, if the Cowboys don't take him, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.080 he would I could seem going nineteen, I could see 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.880 him going twenty two. I don't think it's out of 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.480 the top twenty five. So Aj Terrell, it's not just 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.760 the Cowboys that are interested and possibly making him their 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.400 first round draft choice, but underneath ten minutes until the 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.600 draft actually gets under way, it seems like the corners 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.040 are kind of one of those areas where there's just 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.520 a jumbled mess right at the beginning, not just with 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.720 Christian Fulton, Trayvon Diggs, and Terrell, but also a guy 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.840 who Kevin Turner is very very high on, and Jeff Gladney. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.160 Where do you kind of see Jeff Gladney's a DFW 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.000 product coming out of TCU. This is another individual that 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.000 I think cornerwise the Cowboys might not be very high on. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.320 Where do you kind see him flalling in the middle 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:08.600 of this. I don't have any idea how the Cowboys 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.119 valued Gladnee. And you know, sometimes you get you hear 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.879 James like they might be in on, you know, Chavon Diggs, 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:17.600 you know, whispers of names like AJ Terrell, and you 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.040 hear things. I haven't heard much about how they feel 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.359 about Jeff Gladney. I think abou Jeff Gladney. I think 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.040 the number one thing people do is They knock him 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:25.640 for his size, but if you look at it, he's 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.320 got really long arms, he's got good length, and I 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.879 think he's a very aggressive corner I think he's very 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.520 good as a man player. But I really find him 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.240 to be a guy who can kind of get in 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.120 the mix. And I think there's so much emphasis put 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.840 on being a little more aggressive defensively, whether that's from 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.879 the scheme who's gonna blitz more, whether it's from just 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.640 overall frustrates not getting turnovers over the last few years. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.680 I find glad need to be a very aggressive cornerback 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.800 and someone who I think deserves to go in the 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.000 first round. But you know, for me, you know, I 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.080 like him maybe more than the rest of the world does. 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.119 But that's fine. It's why we do this, right. We 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.480 all have varying opinions on players, and we agree on 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.359 some players as well. But for me, I would prefer 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.119 Gladney at seventeen over a J. Terrell. But you know, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.320 based on what you kind of hear around the league 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.360 and just looking around, I don't know if the rest 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.400 of the league feels that way, Katie. To your point, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.680 I think when you look at ball production, you look 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.000 at stats at the college level. In my experience, one 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.159 of the best stacks that translate from college to the 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.440 NFL passes defended. If you get your hands on the 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.399 football in college, chances are you're gonna do it in 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.280 the NFL. And only two players in college football and 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.320 over fifteen passes defended each of the last two years, 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.840 one of them being Jeff Gladney. The other meet robertson 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.720 the movies the Nattack. So really talented corners in this 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.440 class that neither are the biggest guys in the world, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.960 but both of them are ballhawks with that mentality that 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:01.240 you want and that immediately leads to ball production. Let's 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.600 talk safety. We're sticking with the secondary where we've talked 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.800 about some of these corners, but at least going into 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.159 the offseason, it seems like safety was really that go 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.919 too for the Cowboys. What is something that you can 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.840 look at with maybe where the value is where you 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:21.640 kind of find yourself at least evaluating an Xavier McKinney, 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.520 a Grant Delpit, some of these later safeties, even an 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.399 Antoine Winfield junior from Minnesota. Dave I know, it seems 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.800 like the value may not be there. For these safeties 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.920 at pick seventeen. But if you trade back and you 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.040 find yourself in the middle of the twenties or even 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.800 early thirties, this might be the sweet spot for those guys, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.879 Thank Kyle. And I'm a cynic. I'm a cynic by nature, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.720 so maybe that's my cynical attitude. But I've been burned before. Okay, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.479 I've fallen in love with a lot of safeties over 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.879 the years. I've convinced myself on numerous occasions that the 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.840 Cowboys were going to draft one. You know. Obviously, last 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.040 year it was want Thornhill, Old Taylor Rap, this year Adderley, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.960 those guys. That's not to say that they can't do 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.760 it or that they won't do it, but at this 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:11.680 point I almost need to see it to believe it. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.720 And if I mean, if you're talking about the first round, yeah, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.680 I think McKinney is in consideration. I hear more about 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:20.200 McKinney than I do about Delpit, to be honest with you, 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:23.800 but I think that they're interested in both of those guys. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.160 But I think at seventeen, I definitely think they would 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:29.760 have to be wiped out. And then if you're talking 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:33.160 about a trade back again. You talk about value. Let's 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.320 just imagine that the Cowboys trade back to like twenty five, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.280 you know, say they trade with Minnesota. Are you going 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.040 to draft one of those safeties there? Or is there 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.480 an aj Terrell or a Trevon Diggs that you feel 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.520 a lot better about. I think everybody would agree drafting 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.320 a cornerback is the bigger priority. So I don't want 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.159 to rule it out completely, but I think a lot 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.600 of stuff would have happen for them to pick a 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:03.240 safety over some of the other likely options. I think 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.960 I agree with you. I will do want to ask 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.880 if we let's rule out cornerback, let's rule out edge 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.840 for a minute. But if they traded back into the 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.000 twenties and something was there that we were maybe not 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.000 thinking about, Like, is there any chance that they would 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.520 pull out twenty thirteen again and trade back and take 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.720 a center given that Travis Frederick just retired. I don't 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.760 think that's what they should do. But you know how 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.040 this team thinks about, or at least over the years, 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:31.320 have thought about, you know, running the football and establishing 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:36.480 dominance up front. I don't think they would, um. I know, 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:39.040 you know, people talk about Caesar Ruise. You know he's 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.639 a great player. UM, I don't think so, because you 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.639 just you you address that last year, like Connor McGovern, 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.240 Connor McGovern was not a need pick. He was the 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.280 best player available. That's why you draft guys like that, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:56.520 because you never know when you're gonna need him. They 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.159 have Joe Looney, they have Connor McGovern, Mike McCarthy, and 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.639 the pre draft press conference. Even through Connor Williams in 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.680 there as an option, it's just, I mean, you don't 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:06.840 need a first round pick at every position on the 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.480 offensive line, or you shouldn't in order to be able 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.800 to function. Um. I would be pretty surprised by that, honestly. 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.080 And look, you guys know, I'm on Team forty Burger. 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:18.760 I would love to see the Cowboys spend a big 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:21.760 pick on a receiver, but I really think something crazy 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.440 is going to have to happen for this pick to 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:28.960 not be a defender. I just's I got feeling. And 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.359 you haven't had a chance to shine in on Team 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.480 forty Burger. Are you captain trade down or a usergeant 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.399 trained down? One of those? I guess h sub series 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.719 of Jeff cavanalls thinking where are you kind of at 0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:45.080 with the Cowboys draft strategy overall. I mean it's cliche, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.880 but best player availables or I always lean towards because 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:53.600 you just oh boring football. Football is a game of attrition. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.680 That's your point. With the government pick last year and 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:00.720 especially the first list, you're seventeen best play in the draft, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.000 you're going to get one of them. And I think 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:05.080 that's where you look at it. Played on Chase on 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:08.280 a C. J. Henderson H and if ed the being 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.320 a receiver, it'd be tough to pass on one H. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:15.680 For just me speaking personally, I think they better maybe 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:20.600 better off the chasa on Henderson. But if even if 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.240 the Justin Jefferson were there for me at seventeen, that's 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.159 a high wayed player for me on my board. And 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:29.080 so that's the direction I would leave, even though I 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.680 think we're you look at receiver and this team I 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.200 think is a good spot, but it's you want to 0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.520 get better and you want The best way I can 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.960 sum it up is I think you want to take 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.480 the player that the rest of your division is going 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.440 to look at and say crap, you know, like just 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.560 the Cowboys added who like you know, and that that's 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:49.399 kind of how I look at it. So yeah, they 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.520 could go with maybe try to address a need, go 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.080 best player, go the guy that's going to make the 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.920 rest of your division look at it and say just 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.359 shaking their heads because the Cowboys just kind of a 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:05.440 lot better. Mister Burglar, in your many years of covering 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.920 these drafts, would you not agree that the Cowboys tend 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.879 to use need as their tiebreaker when it's even remotely close, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.240 No question. And that's I mean, Kyle ast what I 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:20.560 would do. That's kind of where I l this team. 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:25.000 They tend to lean towards where they you know, they 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.040 I don't want to say they pick up their mind 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.960 before the raft in terms of the position, h but 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.720 it's still something that they have an idea of where 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.920 they want to go this year. We feel like, Okay, 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:38.040 if Chason's off the board, I think we can all 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.720 agree there's a high likelihood it's going to be somewhere 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:45.480 in the secondary of pick seventeen. I think secondary is 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.240 a good solid spot there at seventeen, but also edge 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.760 rusher and you mentioned calevan Chase on and I don't 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.560 think we've gone in depth at least on who he 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.320 could be because right now, as we enter the seven 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.080 o'clock hour, we're nearing the first round. It's right around 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.399 the corner, and it still seems like Calevan Chason out 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.080 of LSU. Is that go to or at least the 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.440 prediction for most Cowboys Nation. Dave, you're an LSU alum, 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.280 you've had an eye on Chase on for a couple 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.680 of years. Now, what is your scouting report overall on 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:18.960 the kind of player that he is for those of 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:24.080 Cowboys Nation that maybe doesn't know who Calevan Chason is, Kay, 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.920 Calevan chase On, Um, you're gonna look at him and 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:32.760 think of a three to four outside linebacker. He's he's 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.960 He's not like drastically light, but he is light for 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.399 an NFL defense then, at least at this point in 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.520 his career. The interesting thing about him is he didn't 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.480 get to do Pro Day. He didn't work out at 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.560 the Combine because he thought he would have a Pro day. Um, 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.639 so you know, scouts and teams might have it, but 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.439 we on the outside do not have his testing numbers, 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.639 which I assure you would be freakish if they were public. 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.800 Incredibly athletic, he is a quick to guy. He's got 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.560 a great first step, and the thing that I think 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.080 people need to remember about him. You know, people are 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.720 scared because of his lack of college production. He had 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.000 nine and a half college sacks. He had six and 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.840 a half for LSU's national title team. So that's six 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.640 and a half sacks in fifteen games. It's not great. 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:22.159 The guy's also twenty years old. He's only started one 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:24.600 season of college football. He tore his ACL and the 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:27.520 season opener of the twenty eighteen season. He was a 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:31.400 rotational guy as a freshman, so he grabbed the starting 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:35.439 job as a true sophomore, lost it because of injury, 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.680 and got better every season as the year win along 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.879 in his only season as a starter. To borrow a 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.720 phrase that Dane Brugler uses all the time, everything about 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:49.159 this guy points to him being an ascending player and 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.840 as far as intangibles go, which I think are important. 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.879 I don't know how many people outside the LSU program 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.240 know this, but he won't eighteen for a reason. That 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:02.760 number is given to guy as a designation of leadership, 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:07.480 good attitude, being that right kind of guy, first in 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:09.920 the building, last to leave. They give it out every 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.080 year to players that they think are worthy and it's 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.120 it's a big honor within the program, and for them 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:20.159 to give it to a twenty year old is pretty remarkable. So, 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.159 like I said, I mean, he's got short arms for 0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.640 a pass rusher. His college production is not off the chart. 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.960 I understand why it scares people. He's not a slam dunk, 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.200 but I feel very comfortable betting on that upside, especially 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.720 given that you are all the way back at pick seventeen. 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.479 You know, i'd see watching him play and watching those 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:42.800 LSU games one thing you may notice. I think a 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.560 lot of people might just go straight to the box 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.320 score and look, Okay, maybe the production is not where 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.320 you want. He's at your Classics fourteen sack guy. Well, 0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.920 if you just watch the tape of LSU games, he's 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.840 all over the field and he's in the mix all 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:57.960 the time against the run and when pressuring the quarterback. 0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.439 So to me, I think what Dane said about him 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:03.120 being as sending player, I think it is a great point. 0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.600 And I think you also have to look at the 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.800 team right now. You're in trouble if you're counting on 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.120 your defensive end group to be DeMarcus Lawrence. An injury 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.480 history of Tyrone Crawford Alden Smith and Randy Gregory a 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.000 fourth round pick in dorch Armstrong. They need some boost, 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.040 they need some juice. They need a guy with a 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.320 little bend at a little speed off the edge after 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.760 losing Robert Quinn. And that's what Chasun can give you. 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.440 My biggest concern with him is play strength, you know, 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.680 just a little bit stronger. It's like he's a bad 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.240 run player, but sometimes it's gonna struggle to set the 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.320 edge and things like that. But look, that's your guy 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.080 at seventeen. I think we should all be perfectly fine 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.000 with that. I definitely like that than the alternative of 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.960 maybe an aj Terrell or Dryfon Diggs. Are you to 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.080 gross Matos out of Pinn State there as well? But Dan, 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.960 you call him an ascending player. Where's he ad on 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.680 your board? And would you be happy if the Cowboys 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:57.520 selected Chase On with that seventeenth pick? I mean I 0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.560 would be happy for the Cowboys, Yeah, I mean because 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.600 I think, uh, he's fourteen on my on my board, 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.880 so getting him a seventeen And I mean the only 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.360 thing missing from Dave's report was a social security number. 0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.880 I mean, he really he put it all together for 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.280 you right there. I think the lack of production is 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.000 a good point. You can count his career sacks on 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.720 one hand. Uh, he had nine and a half. And 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.440 so it's it's something where you're banking on the trades. 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.200 The medicals have to come back clean because, like Dave mentioned, 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.560 the ACDL last year had had a banged up ankle 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.560 this past year as well. So you know, I think 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.720 that you're you're banking on the trades, You're banking on 0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.920 a guy that is on his way up. The trajectory 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.920 of where you're getting this player is very appealing. Uh. 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.160 And the fact that I think he's pretty far from 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.040 his football skilling, that's what he gets excited about. I 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.520 mean he plays the second most important position on your roster. Um. 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.120 I mean you have the number one position, well we 0:29:53.480 --> 0:30:01.400 think haveing number one position. Now you address that number 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:06.560 two position, and uh, you know you're wow, Dan just 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.720 throwing out the fire. He comes on the Draft show 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.120 just really quickly and then just spits it. That's what 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.720 we expect out of you, mister Brugler. If two is 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.400 still hanging there around like pick twelve, this is the 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.880 Twitter is gonna get that. I see Twitter is gonna 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:24.760 get real weird. I'm here for it, and I absolutely 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.520 think that Twitter and the entire Cowboys nation will get weird. 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.800 And we've got about ten minutes or so until we 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.960 hear the commissioner and we officially get the Bengals on 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.160 the clock. Coming up in the next ten minutes or so, 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:40.800 we are the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Kyle Yeoman's, 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.760 Kevin Turner, Dame Brugler, David Hellman. We are here all night, 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.200 two hundred and fifty five picks, all presented by Biller Light, 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.520 our Draft day partner as always. And one of the 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.880 fun things about this, guys is it's it's a crazy time. 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.640 It really is. And we're not going to shine a 0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.200 light on on COVID nineteen because it's a it's a 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.800 sad time and there's a lot of things that are 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.440 wrong right now. But you also get a unique opportunity 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:11.200 being able to have every single player, every single prospect 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.720 in their homes with their families and kind of surrounded 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.960 by family and friends. You take all of the extra fluff, 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.240 you take all of the money side out of it, 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.160 and ultimately this is the draft in its purest form. 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.560 It's exciting, it's nerve wracking at the same time, but overall, 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:30.360 this is a draft that none of us are going 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.280 to ever forget kind of Katie will start with you 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.000 go into what you expect tonight. You expect trades? Do 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.239 you expect anything crazy to happen at least starting here 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.080 in the next ten minutes. Well, the first thing I 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:46.360 expect is to remodel my living room to the wood 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.360 paneling that the Commissioner's going with. But I would also 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:54.640 say that no, I really expect an outstanding number of trades, 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.400 especially in the back half of the draft. Teams looking 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.800 to get back, teams looking to get more picks, and uh, 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:02.880 you know, day two or Day three, I do think 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.840 we're gonna get a lot of trade downs and things 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.160 like that. So I think, you know, I think my 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.520 over undergoing into the day was seven trades. Maybe that's uh. 0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.200 I don't even know how how that would rank on 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.320 the average, But I'm expected a lot of trades, um 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.920 and you know, for for the first time. Uh, I mean, 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.480 it seems like us there's a rush for the quarterbacks 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.840 at the top of the draft, and that's not happening 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:26.480 this year. I don't think anyone's gonna go up and 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.520 go get two. Uh so I think that's very very 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.560 interesting thing. Look, we're gonna get offensive lineman, baby, you 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.560 like offensive lineman's And after night, the tackles are flying 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.720 off the board. I don't know how many, Dane, I 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.440 don't know how many of you mocked in the first round. 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.560 I know on mine I had seven offensive tackles going 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.560 tonight plus Caesar Ruis, so eight out of the thirty 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.440 two picks being offensive linemen. Same here. That's and then 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.760 well the only tackle I didn't have that is still 0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.320 probably gonna go some more top fourty, top fifties Josh 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.600 Jones in Houston. So, uh, it's gonna be tackle very early, 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.560 and there could be four, maybe even five offensive tackles 0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.240 off the board for the Cowboys pick, which again you're 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.960 hoping for more offensive tackles push some of those other 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.800 talents down the board to you at seventeen, which is 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.320 gonna make it really interesting. But yeah, I mentioned before 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.840 the storylines to this fact. Where does he go? Uh, 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.880 you know, we know the first two picks, and then 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:23.760 you're we're on two. Go watch to see what happens there. 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.080 And then I think you look at the trade action, 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.959 We're gonna see a lot of trades, and then offensive tackles. 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.760 We're gonna see a lot of offensive tackles. Four and 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.000 the top ten, top eleven, and then there's gonna be 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.040 that first wave of top four and we'renna have a 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.160 second wave the next top four, and it's not gonna 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.600 be too long before we hear those names. So to me, 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.480 therese are kind of the main storylines I'm looking at today. 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.680 The name or two that might shock you to be 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.520 taken in the first round. Um, I was, you know, 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.680 just thinking about maybe that wide receiver group. I feel 0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.920 like maybe we talked about rubs, We talked about Judy 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.560 and Cedee Lamb from Alabama and then Oklahoma Ceedee Lamb, 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.680 Justin Jefferson from LSU, who might be that fifth wide receiver, 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.279 sixth wide receiver that might sneak into the mix and 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.480 the back end of the first round. You know, I 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.360 think you're look, I think the oper undrun receivers in 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:17.120 the first round should be about five and a half. 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.600 I think that we're gonna get five and then with 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.320 whether or not that we get that sixth you mentioned 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.320 the four with bugs Lamb, Judy Jefferson, and then I 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.520 think either Iyuk or Mims Brandon Iuk at Arizona State 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.440 and Denzel Mims at A Baylor, and then even Jalen Regor. 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.759 There's a few teams on every team, but a few 0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.320 teams in the last ten or twelve picks in the 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.800 first round that are big fans of Jalen Reger. So 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.000 there's a lot of interesting receivers in this class. When 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:46.960 we know that, and a lot of teams are gonna say, hey, 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.880 I took great about my options in the second or 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:51.919 the third or the fourth, and so we're gonna see 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.520 some teams passed on receiver or the first round. But 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.640 we still there's too much talent that we're gonna see 0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.359 these guys still go early. I think if we're looking 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.120 for a surprise name, I think these running backs. You 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.520 know that would surprise me if we see these running 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.840 backs go early and somewhere in the first round, just 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.480 because where are they gonna go. There's not many obvious 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.920 landing spots for Baking Dobbins and going basically Jonathan Taylor, 0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.040 Clyde Edwards a layer In most years, I think all 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.440 four of those guys belong in the first round and 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.040 they would go that high. Today's NFL where we are 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.520 and I think just hold different the landing spots at 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.080 the end of the first round. It makes it really 0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.920 tough to project those guys in the first round. But 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.000 I think it'll be interesting to see who's that first 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.719 running back rounded and where does he go did go 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.800 in the first round? Do we get one, do we 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.320 get two? So the running backs are really interesting in 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.120 this class. Well. You could also say something very similar 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.960 about the tight end group as well, even with the 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.399 success that some of the best tight ends have had 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.320 in the NFL as of recently. You talk about the 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.719 two Super Bowl teams, the forty nine Ers and the 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.720 Chiefs have greg Or George Kittle and then also Travis 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.239 kell see on the same side. But I think it's 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.160 interesting that you don't hear as much hype around some 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.600 of the tight ends that are going at least early 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.200 in this draft. Cold commats up there. I mean, other 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.440 than that, really, it's it's kind of a very small 0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.279 list of tight ends that are getting any attention right now. 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.920 And maybe we hear a tight ends name Cold tonight, 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.640 maybe Cole commit at a Notre Dame. But even that 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.360 seems like it would be a little bit of a surprise. 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.359 I mean, I like cool Commet. Did I think he's 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.160 one of the thirty two best players in this draft. No, 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.160 I think it'd be a little bit of a reach 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.520 if Poule Commet ends up going in the first round. 0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.640 I think he's still a really good player, but more 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.920 of a guy. You consider the top fifty early in 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:49.120 the mid second round, and it's not the same extent 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.200 as tight end. But I throw safety in there as well. 0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.319 I mean, I like Xavier McKinney, but I don't love him, 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.319 and I knew him as more of an early second 0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:58.640 round pick. Now, could he go in the twenties or 0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.839 even as high as seventeen. It's certainly possible. Cannot rule 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.920 it out, but I think the second round's gonna be 0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:07.439 a sweet spot for these safeties, whether it's Jeremy Shin 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.719 or Antoine Winfield or Kyle Dougger, And we can go 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.840 one and on. There's a lot of interesting safeties in 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.160 this group, but I don't know if any of them 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:20.480 are slam dunk first round picks. Well, as we near 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.520 about five minutes until we hear from the commissioner, it's 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.520 time now to do a couple of predictions. We'll talk 0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.080 about seventeen and then give a bold prediction. Dave will 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.680 start with you. Who's your final pick to go to 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:37.040 the Dallas Cowboys to pick seventeen. Let's assume their staying put. 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.200 We're not captain trade down at least at the moment. 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.160 Let's try and stay put here and predict what's happening 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.280 at seventeen, and then also give me a bold prediction 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:48.200 as well. Have to do both both at the same time, 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:50.359 one or the one or the other first, doesn't matter. 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.960 Picking the players not bold enough for you, jeez, not 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.239 even a little bit. Um okay, well, I mean I 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:01.280 I don't remember exactly when it happened. It was before 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.840 quarantine that it kind of clicked in my head that 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.439 Caleb and Jason made a lot of sense. So I've 0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.759 been on that trade ever since. I'm not gonna hop 0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.919 off right before it comes into the station. Who knows 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.080 if he'll be there, but if he's there, I really 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.719 believe he will be the pick. If he is available, 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:25.759 I think he's the seventeenth overall pick. Um. As far 0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:31.759 as a bold prediction, um, yeah, man, I wasn't ready 0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:38.480 makes bold. Has it got to be for the first round? Nah? Yes, 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.399 let's do first round so we can do the later 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:46.360 ones tomorrow. Okay, I just um I have a gun. No, 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.560 I gotta I got one because I've been just passing 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.200 this around. So the Kansas City Chiefs, right, they're gonna 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.640 be on team forty Burger. They already score a lot 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.879 of points. They need a cornerback. There won't be any 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.080 left by the time they pick. So my bold prediction 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.359 is the Chiefs are gonna draft the first running back, 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:10.240 whether that's JK. Dobbins, whether that's DeAndre Swift. I also, 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.360 you know, I've heard from well played sources that the 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.759 Chiefs really like Clyde Edwards Hilaire, which maybe thirty two 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.759 is a reach, but not that big of a reach. 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.600 So I think the Chiefs draft are running back and 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.400 make that offense even more dangerous than it already is. 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.799 I'll go next, and I do kind of agree with Dave. 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.799 Clyde would make so much sense. Hilaire from Clyde Edwards 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.040 to Laire from LSU would be so fun in Kansas City. 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.239 Although a lot of players would be fun in Kansas City. 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.280 I would say, for me, it's aj Terrell, the cornerback 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.839 from Clemson. Just a little too much smoke. There hold 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.360 too much concern on my end that Jason doesn't make it. 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.959 My bold prediction is that after months of talking about 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.360 quote tanking for Tuah and then not accomplishing it, the 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.080 Miami Dolphins passed on to Tuah falls to the Chargers 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.719 at six. That might not seem so bold now, and 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.759 Justin Herbert will go at the top ten to a 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:07.080 team about in Florida, but not the Miami Dolphins. You 0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.160 can do the rest of the work yourselves. Context clues. 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:16.000 It's the Jaguars. There you go, there, you go? All right, Dan, 0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.360 you got I'm going with Chasa on who I had 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.680 in my final mock, and I don't know if he's 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.759 going to make it, but I'm gonna say that it's 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.560 gonna happen. That's my pick for the Cowboys. It's seventeen 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.560 and then and in terms of a bold pick, I'm 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:35.839 gonna go with Seattle is a you never go there 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.840 to do every single year? Actually do you do? Probably 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.600 know they're gonna try and trade out of there, but 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.960 if they stay put in the first round, you know 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.000 two years ago for Penny last year's Lja Collier from TCU, 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.440 like they're just a wild card every year. This year, 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:56.600 I'm gonna say Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin. Uh. And honestly, if 0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:59.800 they did happen that at the moment he is drafted 0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:01.920 by the Seahawks, I think he'd be the best running 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.960 back in the NFC West so and that's why I 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:08.520 think we would consider that if you're the Seahawks. That's 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:14.240 my bold prediction for the night. Oh sorry, Kyle, Oh absolutely, 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.880 you go ahead, Dave. The Seahawks are so good at 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:23.120 finding running backs out of nowhere, like Carson um McKesson 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:24.759 a couple of years ago, Like why don't they keep 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:26.719 trying to draft running backs in the first round. It's 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.880 a terrible idea for shod Penny two years ago. And 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.400 I mean, John Schneider doesn't care. That's the thing. He's 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.120 gonna take you. And I mentioned this earlier. I'm gonna 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.680 draft to the other three teams in that division are 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.560 gonna be like, oh no, Jonathan Taylor, I think would 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.880 do that to the Niners and the Rams and the 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.560 cardin balals where you added in all the Suns to 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:50.839 backfield with Russell Wilson and Jonathan Taylor. I think they'd 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.040 be a lot of fun to walk guys. I will 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.279 have to I gotta cut this off because we do 0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:01.280 have a big adouncement. Cincinnati Bengals are officially on the clock, 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.359 and Dave, I know this is your time to shine here. Man, 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.759 You're an LSU alum, you got your championship, and now 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.359 seemingly it's going to be Joseph Burrow as the first 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.400 overall pick. What's going through your mind right now? But honestly, 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:18.960 I found this out right before the draft. This is insane. 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.960 If Hill Burrow is the pick, which we are very 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.120 confident he will be, LSU, which has been garbage at 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.160 quarterback for the vast majority of the last like fifty years, 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.880 will be tied for the most number one quarterback picks 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:40.959 in the Super Bowl era with three, which I would 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:43.239 never guess they would be up there with like Stanford 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:46.560 and some of those other schools that reliably put out quarterbacks. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.040 You know, that doesn't say great things about like JaMarcus Russell, 0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:55.120 but whatever. I'm very biased, but I think Joe's a 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.719 franchise changer, man. I mean, not only does he have 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.799 the talent, but he's got that in factor. He's very 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.080 much like Dak Prescott in the way that he gets 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.200 people to follow him. I don't think you can understate 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.160 that enough. I think it's going to be a slam 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.880 duck now. It makes a lot of sense. I mean, 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:16.879 you look at Joe and the season that he had. 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.440 I think that you might have concerns of, well, he 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.360 only did it one year and everyone talks about that offense, 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.400 which was load and we all know that. But I 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.360 think that the traits are all there. You look at it. 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:31.560 He's just mobile enough. He throws with anticipation. That's something 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.920 that you see. He's very good in the pocket, understanding 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:38.680 you know where the rush is coming from. The accuracy 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.080 is there, and it may not be uh, you know, 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.799 great at a hundred different things, but he's just kind 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.799 of really good at everything. And you know, he did enough. 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.200 I would be interested Dane if to Ah were one 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.160 hundred percent healthy, do you think you know it would 0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.600 be a close grade right there or where? How do 0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.560 you think you could have that ranked? If it's to 0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.719 it getting hurt and had an outstanding season, you know 0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:04.960 how close is that at the top? It could be 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.239 a consensus in terms of Joe Burrows the top guy. 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.000 For me, I'm sold on Joe Burrow. He would be 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:16.120 in my number one quarterback regardless it was fully healthier 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:17.960 or not. But I don't think that would be the 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.200 consensus among teams run the league. I think there'd be 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:24.040 several who would lean towards Tua and everything that he offers. Um. 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.920 I just with with Joe Burrow. He whatever he did 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.880 at LSU this past year, and I know people are 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:32.759 going to harp on it was just the one year 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.080 we could go back to his junior year stretch the 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.160 final four games to play the last nineteen twenty games 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.600 and he played in college. It's not even like he 0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.040 played an average game, or it's not even like he 0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.799 played a negative bad game. He didn't even have an 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:49.000 average game. I mean he was above average in every 0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:53.520 single game. And everything that he does well it translates 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:57.040 to the next level. Talking about the confidence, just his 0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:00.400 ability to understand but everything where everything is on the 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.319 field at all times, what's going on. He just has 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:07.200 a great understanding a field general and everything that tails 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:11.040 then as a passer, the decision making, the accuracy, the anticipation. 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:16.000 He's a surgeon out there. So that and just the possibility, 0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:21.040 the ability to navigate through pressure impressed me more than 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.759 a lot of guys that we usually talked about. His 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:28.160 first round caliber players. So Joe Burrow sold me, I 0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.360 think the band Goals are getting a big time player. 0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.080 And tell you what, the AFC North with those quarterbacks, 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.440 you know, with Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield and Robins 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:40.480 Burger he's healthy, and then now Joe Burrow, it's going 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.520 to make the AFC North a little more interesting. Fifty 0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:48.120 six hundred passing yards, sixty touchdowns, and over a seventy 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:53.120 six completion percentage for Joe Burrow this past year. And 0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.200 I mean, and you guys mentioned all of it, and 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.560 going up and down the scouting report, the accuracy, the 0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:02.120 mental process and just the pocket awareness that he has. 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:05.520 It's all translated into the next level. But it's also 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.080 kind of fun to see a guy go home. I mean, 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.000 he's an Ohio kid, he was mister Football Ohio and 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.719 now he gets a chance to go and play for 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:16.640 the Cincinnati Bengals. So this is gonna be fun to watch. 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.960 And now the pick has not been in I know 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:21.319 a couple of moments ago. It kind of scrolled past 0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:24.960 on the ticker got ahead of ourselves. The pick's been 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:29.200 in for like ten days. It's ten days, you mean 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.040 like two months. No, I mean you gotta wait and 0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.560 see if somebody's gonna offer you something. But I think 0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.960 it became pretty clear at least yeah, ten days, two 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:42.080 weeks ago. I mean, Schefter reported before the coverage started 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.840 that Mike Brown sent him a nine jersey on Wednesday. 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:49.080 So you know, I think that's about as clear as 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:54.399 it can get. The running Yeah, yeah, he's running. I'm 0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:56.839 gonna I got one comment and then I promise I'll 0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.480 take my Homer hat off. I'm I'm bad. I'm in 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.880 a bad position tonight because they're gonna there's gonna be 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.040 a five Bellshue picks. But I just want to say 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.920 Joe Burrow was good in twenty eighteen. Okay, he was 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.040 playing in a scheme that was not conducive to good 0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:15.160 quarterback play, and obviously he was much better in twenty nineteen. 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.240 But anybody that thinks he's a one year wonder should 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.479 go back and watch more tape. He was plenty good 0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:24.120 in twenty eighteen. He was just playing in a caveman offense. 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:27.759 Also I think you include the context that he had 0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.359 just transferred in. I mean, he was still getting used 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:34.520 to the coaching staff, the offense around him, the playbook. 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:39.440 I mean, he had never started before. So I've heard 0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.040 a lot of people say, well, you know it couldn't 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.960 beat out Dwyne Haskins. Well, in practice setting, I mean 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.880 Dwayne Haskins. Let's let's remember this guy through fifty touchdown 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:48.719 last year for Ohio There a year or four for 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.239 Ohio State. It's not like he was a bumb and 0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.080 so in a practice setting, I can understand that Dwayne Haskins, 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.080 that big arm and everything that he can do, would 0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:00.279 look a little bit better than Joe Burrow. But his 0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.480 junior year at at LSU it was a little rough 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.160 early on, you know, thinking about what that Miami game 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:07.880 and you know some of those early on games. But 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.719 I think when you consider the context that he had 0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.960 just joined the program, you factor all that in and 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.680 then watch the trajectory throughout the course of the season. Now, 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.600 the Alabama game wasn't great, but again towards the end, 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:23.200 people forget he was a Fiesta Bowl MVP as a junior. 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:25.640 To your point, Dave, I mean he did not have 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.200 a bad year. Did he have a great year? No, 0:48:28.480 --> 0:48:31.440 But I mean watching his tape over the summer, I 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.160 thought he was a fourth round pick. That's what I 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.200 thought of him at that point. So that's not to 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.360 say that, you know, he had this tremendous year as 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:42.480 to Junior, but he wasn't a bump either. Well. I 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:46.399 also think like it's gonna be interesting, assuming, of course, 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.360 at the Bengals go ahead and make this official in 0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:51.359 the next few minutes. Googles have had such bad luck 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.520 the last few years in the first round, and Jonah 0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:59.560 Williams got hurt Bill Price, remember he got hurt. John 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.680 Row three years ago has been a guy who's battled 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.399 injury for a long time. It's been a while since 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.320 the Bengals have really been able to stockpile their system. 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.120 And look, there's a reason they were the worst team 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.640 in the league last year. It's a bad team and 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:15.000 it may be a rough transition period for him. But 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.320 the Bengals are an interesting team to watch throughout this draft, 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:21.000 throughout this overall draft, because you know, they've got some 0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.720 needs that they could really they need a wide receiver weapon, 0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.680 they could use some offensive line help, and they could 0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:29.840 use some linebacker help for sure. On defense. There's a 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.600 lot that the Bengals can do to stack up and 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.640 get that situation turned around a little bit up there 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:37.480 in Cincinnati's so there'll be a fun team to watch. Obviously, 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.080 they'll have you know, we picking tomorrow or be on 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.640 as well well. And he kind of said it earlier 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:45.720 this week. He said he's never been in a position 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:48.200 where he's lost. He's always won, all the way up 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:51.360 from high school, his prep even he was a winner. 0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.360 And he's going to go into a tough situation, there's 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.320 no doubt about it. Now the pick is in, so 0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:00.640 we're waiting on Commissioner Goodell too. I would say the stage, 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.000 but it's more like stand up in his uh in 0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:05.840 his lobby or whatever you would call it, his loft 0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:10.360 in his house and delivering sweet. And it's the sweet basement. 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:14.040 It's got the wood paneling and everything. Here's Roger get draft. 0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:21.520 The Cincinnati Bengals select Joe Burrow, quarterback LSU. There it 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:26.719 is Joe Burrow, officially a Cincinnati Bengal. The hometown kid 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.920 is going home. He's the first overall pick out of LSU. 0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:36.279 The quarterback is going to Cincinnati and Dave, this is 0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:39.840 a proud moment for you. I mean, yeah, it is. 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:45.800 It's it's cool. I you know, yeah, it's it's no, 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.239 it's it's it's been really crazy. I mean, you know, professionally, 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.920 like I think he's a great player, Stoked for him, 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.520 stoke for the Bengals. Obviously, you can't one hundred percent 0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:57.800 remove emotion from the equation. And I was higher on 0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.880 Joe Burrow than a lot of people just by nature 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.040 being an LSU fan. But I could have never predicted 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:09.080 this um Heisman Trophy, all those touchdowns, being the number 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.720 one pick in the draft. It's it's pretty surreal. Especially 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.920 I mean, if you know anything about LSU football, I 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:18.279 never would have seemed that an LSU quarterback would be 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.000 capable of all those things. So, uh yeah, I gotta 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.080 I got a soft spot for Joey be and I'm 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:28.800 not afraid to admit it's a sorry Kazuh. If I 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.880 told you in August h that Joe Burrow is going 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.480 to be the number one pick the following April, what 0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.719 would your response have been. I would have said, great, 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.600 So I need to be buying tickets to the National 0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:45.439 Title game. Uh yeah, I mean, you know, I thought 0:51:45.600 --> 0:51:47.600 LSU would be pretty good. I thought Joe would be 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:52.960 a good player, but I mean they it surpassed even 0:51:53.560 --> 0:52:01.279 the biggest Homer's wildest expectations. Yeah, I think it's the 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.719 situation too. Like when you when you watch him, he 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.440 was so fun to watch in that offense is so 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.560 fun to watch. It's like elis you finally realized, oh, yeah, 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.200 we needed to catch up with where football is going, 0:52:12.280 --> 0:52:14.920 and that's how we're gonna beat Alabama, like once they 0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.160 finally got with the time and stop sticking to what 0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:21.040 they you know which, and maybe that's something the Cowboys 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:22.560 are going to start doing now with a new head 0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:25.880 coach and things like that as well. Bring it all 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:29.680 back to Dallas. That wasn't enough. That was that was 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.719 professional there from Katie turning it around and saying, hey, 0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:34.960 new coaching staff, let's figure it out and let's play 0:52:35.239 --> 0:52:39.719 play some modern football. But now with all of this, 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.880 it was funny. They showed a quick clip of of 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.960 Joe Burrow in his house. He's in his living room 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.400 just with his parents right next to him. He barely 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.160 even cracked a smile. Guys, Like, we're talking about the 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:55.560 mental toughness and kind of the leadership of this guy. 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.239 I know, like you said earlier, Dave, this is a 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.640 top ten or it is going to be the top 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.640 pick overall, and it doesn't matter. He could have been 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.520 over the last couple of weeks, same thing. Not a surprise, 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:09.080 but even that moment, that first overall moment, it's not 0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:12.759 too big for Joe Burrow. It's a cool customer man. Yeah. 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.600 I couldn't believe that he cried at the Hydeman ceremony. 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:20.200 I didn't think he was capable of having emotions. So yeah, 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:24.520 I mean he's, like I said, you know, being as 0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.160 close to the LSU program as I am, he's a 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.600 different guy in terms of his mindset and his approach. 0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:32.200 Like I said, he reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott. 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.040 If they could keep off the ground, fix that offensive line, 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.640 I think they're gonna be able to do some stuff. Now. 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:44.080 Of course, things getting interesting with the second overall pick. 0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:48.040 They're also showing Edward Jeron and his entire coaching staff 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:52.080 clapping along as well with the pick that was being made. 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:55.360 But now you get to Washington and this is a 0:53:55.680 --> 0:53:59.120 spot in the draft where you would normally see Chase Young, 0:53:59.719 --> 0:54:03.320 a defensive end and edge rush were out of Ohio State. 0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:07.520 Is there any any reason we should be at least 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:12.440 concerned or looking at maybe a trade here or something 0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:16.759 crazy going on instead of Chase Young. No, this is 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.440 this is gonna be Chase Young. And I mean, if 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.680 you're the Redskins, you keep the phones open because you 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:26.239 never know. Could get a trade offer here. But I 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.240 just don't think they're going to get the draft capital 0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.720 that it would take to trade away from a player 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:35.839 who I mean I'm trying to be too hyperbolic here 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.239 with Chase Young, but you think about all the pass 0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:40.399 rushers that have come out in recent years, with Miles 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:44.200 Garrett the bossas that, we've had a lot of pass 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.359 rushed talent at the top of the draft in recent years. 0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:48.520 Chase Young can be the best of all of them. 0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.320 I mean, he has all the talent and like he 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:54.120 won the DNA lottery. You look at a guy that 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.880 has the size, the frame, the strength, athleticism, but he 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.840 also works at it. I mean he understands how to 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.080 use his hands, he understands how to set up blockers. 0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:06.759 So not only does he have the physical traits, but 0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.680 his football I Q, his work ethic, you put that 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.560 all together, you have a special, special player. And look 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:17.600 the Redskins, you they're they're the biggest needs on their team. 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:20.719 Pass rushes not at the top, but you just don't 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:25.120 pass on pass on special. Chase Young is special. I'd 0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:28.200 be shocked if if there's any other pick other than 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:31.680 the Redskins taking Young year so real. I'm sorry if 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:36.120 you just said that, comparing him to Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, 0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.120 Miles Garrett, just in terms of how you had them graded, 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.120 how do you think that would have shaken out? I 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:45.040 know that's tough, Yeah, no it is, But I think 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.960 Jay Young he would be at the top. I really 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:51.080 do think. I think Nick Bosa is probably the rookie 0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:52.880 year he had is gonna be tough to top. But 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.680 I think when we look back those two players five 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.000 years from now, I think we'll be looking back as 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:01.000 Chase Young being the best or pro and I think 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.200 Nick Bosa is awesome. I think he's gonna be a 0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:06.200 pro bowler. That's just how much I think Chase Young 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:10.279 and his sky high skill well, and I know it 0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:15.200 wasn't just the Bosas and even Miles Garrett that we're 0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:17.759 kind of talked about in that same conversation with Chase Young. 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:19.919 I know Khalil Mack in the way that he kind 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.080 of runs a defense and it kind of anchors down 0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:27.000 and forces offenses to kind of scheme around him. At 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.880 least they've been in the conversation. Now the pick is 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.560 in here for Washington, and if it's anything other than 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.600 Chase Young, it's a surprise and it's gonna be nuts. 0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:38.880 But at the same time, this is one of the 0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:42.279 best edge rushers we've ever seen coming up through the 0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:45.919 last couple of years, even with some of those names 0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:49.400 that were just mentioned. Dave, Yeah, no, I mean I 0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.759 I mean, yeah, it's boring because we've been talking about 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.719 these guys for two months, but I think we all 0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:58.600 know what these first two picks are going to be. 0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.319 I'm I don't want to say I'm surprised, but I'm 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:03.839 impressed to hear Dane say that he thinks Chase Young 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:08.480 is much better than Nick Bosa, because Bosa was was 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:10.560 very similar last year. I mean, the writing was on 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.080 the wall for forever about how high he was gonna go. 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:15.920 He obviously, you know, turned in a defensive rookie of 0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:18.760 the year performance big part of the reason why the 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.240 Niners defense helped get them to that Super Bowl. So 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:26.640 to think Chase Young could be better than that is uh. One, 0:57:26.720 --> 0:57:29.040 it's impressive and two, if you're a Cowboys fan, it's 0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.520 scary thinking he could be in Washington for the next 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:34.960 five to ten years. Three, if you're a pass rusher 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.160 in high school, why aren't you going to Ohio State? 0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.480 Because they know how to turn out these guys on 0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:45.560 a great point. And Nick Bosa was my top prospectum 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.960 August to the draft last year. Chase Young was my 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.840 top prospect from August to the draft this year. They 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:58.400 ran gam both years ushers. Pretty impressive room they've got 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.360 going there. At a Columbus he had eighteen sacks last 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:05.560 year's seven hits, thirty one hurries. And this comes from 0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.960 a guy who was a consensus five star. As we 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:13.400 are just about there waiting for Roger Goodell, and here's 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:17.480 the commissioner. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Washington 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:24.760 Redskins select Chase Young, keepensive end, Ohio State. Chase Young, 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:29.200 defensive end, Ohio State, second overall pick. No surprise there. 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.479 Now we can get underway with the NFL Draft, because 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.760 those two were certain those two were the ones we 0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.160 kind of knew about, and we've kind of even got 0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.000 to talk about it a little bit here. But now 0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:42.120 we finally get to look ahead and see exactly what's 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.720 going to happen. The Detroit Lions are on the clock, 0:58:45.080 --> 0:58:47.360 and this is where things could go haywire here, Dane, 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.400 Oh question, this is where the chaos, the potential for 0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:56.480 chaos starts. And the Lions have made it no secret 0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.760 they would be perfectly fine trading back because again, they 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.920 a defensive playmaker and that could be Derek Brown, that 0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:05.920 could be a spense like Jeffcuda. I think they'd be 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:09.000 rely fine with any of those guys, and so they 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:12.920 know they could fall back to five six and get 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:15.880 their guy. Now, if a team like Baxtonville comes calling 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.240 and you're to move time, is that still appealing to 0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.880 a team like the Lions. So a lot of intrigue 0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.040 with his pick. The Lions have a general manager and 0:59:25.080 --> 0:59:28.600 a head cooat to you know there. I don't know. 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:30.919 I maybe necessarily a hot seat, but it's a pretty 0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:33.840 warm seat. The Lions need to take a step forward here. 0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.640 They're going in the wrong direction They're in a tough division, 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:40.200 so the Lions need to get a core playmaker here, 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:42.439 and I think it'll be on defense. But it's gonna 0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:46.760 be interesting to see which structure they go. I mean, 0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.760 it feels like, oh, Kuda makes a lot of sense 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.720 given that they, you know, just traded Darius Slay and 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:57.160 moving him to Philadelphia. But you know, you couldn't blame 0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.000 him for any of the other guys, whether it's Derek 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.240 Brown or Simmons like you mentioned. You know, I, for one, 1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:04.920 going into it thought, hey, as Matthew Stafford starts to 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:06.280 get old, it might be hard to go ahead and 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:09.320 look at quarterback. But just haven't really gotten that vibe 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.640 that they would be very interested in going that direction. Me. 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:14.400 I'm a big believer of if you're up there in 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.080 the top five, if if it really checks out, then 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.480 quarterback is where you should probably go. But you know, 1:00:19.680 --> 1:00:22.520 these other defensive players who are really really good players, 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:25.760 it feels like, Okuda, that's what I'm boked there. I 1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:28.440 think that's a great fit for what they're trying to do, 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:31.280 what they're trying to build, But it could be it 1:00:31.360 --> 1:00:33.040 could be one of those other big names. And I 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:36.000 think this is interesting with the Giants on the clock Miami. 1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:39.920 We've talked about being a hub for potential quarterback This 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.400 is this is where we finally spice things up a 1:00:42.440 --> 1:00:44.880 little bit. This is pouring hot sauce on the draft. 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.920 If it's my analogy, I'm going with there, guys, sorry, 1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.360 bringing hot sauce in the middle of the top five. 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:55.520 I like that a lot, and you guys talked about it. 1:00:55.640 --> 1:01:00.320 Jeff Okuda or excuse me, Isaiah Simmons. You've got plenty 1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.960 of options here, but there's also the option for a 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:05.720 team to come in here and potentially take this pick away. 1:01:06.600 --> 1:01:10.120 You mentioned Jacksonville. I know they have at least questions 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:12.680 around their quarterback. Dave made the joke a little bit 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:14.800 earlier they going to roll out Gardner Minshew or is 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:18.000 that actually what their strategy is going to be at 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:21.360 the quarterback position? Who do you see at least clamoring 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:23.640 here to potentially move up and try and make a 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:28.960 swamp as Kat's joke, not mine. I thought it was 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.440 you who said, that's okay, that's we look alike. We 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:35.720 both got the beard, the cornthine beard going. I mean, well, 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.440 that's what I keep thinking about is like, I don't know, man, 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.680 people talk about Detroit trying to get out of this pick. 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.400 It doesn't look like it's going to happen, Which makes 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:48.160 sense because Detroit is in a situation where ownership and 1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:51.280 general manager came out and said, matt Patricia needs to 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.360 impress if he wants to keep his job. So if 1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:58.000 that's the line you're going with, add some talent, stop 1:01:58.080 --> 1:01:59.800 trying to get out of that pick. And I mean 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:03.240 certainly don't draft a quarterback while Matthew Stafford still has 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:06.320 gas in the tank. Um, I'm going to assume this 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:08.640 is Jeffrey Okuda because again, if if you can't get 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:10.320 out of that pick, I think that's the best course 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.800 of action going forward. I know we're going to you know, 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:15.240 we'll talk about the lines a little bit. I don't 1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:17.480 want to just take one step back. I'm not going 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:19.600 to derail the whole night. But man, I just think 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:23.600 about that Redskins defensive front all and obviously moving Ron 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:25.680 River in there. But you know last year spending that 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:29.160 first round pick on Montes Sweat and then what they 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:33.040 already have there with those Alabama guys and Theron Payne 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:36.680 and Jonathan Allen. It's like, yeah, Ryan Kerrigan is still 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.120 in the league, believe it or not, Like that is 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:42.400 going to be a tough front seven. I don't know 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:44.360 how well they're gonna cover back there. There's gonna be 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:47.080 a tough front seven to contend with twice a year 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:50.280 for the Cowboys. Second thought, maybe should we be talking 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:56.520 about tackle US seventeen or maybe offne reinforcements. Half joking here, 1:02:57.880 --> 1:03:00.680 half joking. That's a little scary for I think the 1:03:00.800 --> 1:03:03.520 majority of Cowboys nation. Now the pick is in. The 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:06.840 Lions did not trade away, so we haven't seen movement yet. 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:13.960 And here's the NFL Draft. The Detroit Lions select Jeff Okuda, 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:22.920 defensive back Ohio State Jeffrey Okuda, DFW product down a 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:26.520 South Grand Prairie High School and the second straight Ohio 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:29.640 State Buckeye off the board. And you guys said it 1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:31.480 a moment ago, if you're not going to get out 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:33.640 of that pick, go get the best player available. He's 1:03:33.640 --> 1:03:37.080 obviously the best player available at that point. I think so. 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:41.440 And like Casey said, Darius Slay now in Philadelphia, they 1:03:41.560 --> 1:03:44.600 need more help in the secondary, and so Jeff Ocuda 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:46.880 to me, in a lot of ways, he's the prototype 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:51.760 of position, size, length, speed, h he is. He was 1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:53.760 a five star at of high school. He lived up 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.600 to it in Columbus. And you know we talked about 1:03:57.360 --> 1:04:00.360 producing those pass rushers. How about this run Ohio State's 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.680 been on with corners. Pretty impressive. So the pettigrees, they're 1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:07.440 not a surprise to see Jeff Acuta. High character kid too. 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:09.960 Not surprised to see Jeff off the board here at 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:15.920 number three. You take a look at Okuda's numbers and 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:19.440 kind of what he meant to that Ohio State program overall. 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:23.240 Sorry to cut you off there, Katie Well, I say, look, 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:27.160 he's got a situation where he a lot of opposing 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:30.080 quarterbacks only had a quarterback rating of fifty two against him. 1:04:30.400 --> 1:04:33.800 The number one thing when I was watching Jeff Okud 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:36.720 that just jumped out of me was this guy is 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:41.880 so soothing to watch because he's just so smooth, great footwork, 1:04:42.040 --> 1:04:45.200 that's the easy hip turned, the fluid hips. Um. I 1:04:45.280 --> 1:04:47.160 believe he'd never give up more than fifty yards in 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:49.520 a single game, which that's that's pretty nice. It's just 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:54.040 unbelievable balanced and just really good player. And it sure 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:55.560 feels like he's the type of guy who can just 1:04:55.680 --> 1:04:58.480 kind of travel too if he needs too, against the 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:02.400 Marti Cooper of the league or the Vante Adams of 1:05:02.480 --> 1:05:04.800 the league. You know, there's not many guys I think 1:05:04.840 --> 1:05:07.160 you do that very much anymore. You Yeah, you go 1:05:07.520 --> 1:05:09.600 have him travel with the number one wide receiver. You know, 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:11.680 you don't see that as much as you used to. 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:14.520 And this day and age oft thefl he feels like 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.280 the guy you could just match up with. Okay, well, 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:19.800 we got Michael Thomas this week. Let's go put Okuda 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:25.840 on him. He's sure really good player, so smooth, he 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.080 could run with anyone. I think he's that good instincts. 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:31.360 There's a lot to like about him. And once again 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.800 Ohio State cranks out another good high end draft player. 1:05:34.920 --> 1:05:37.960 No surprise there. Well, and you kind of mentioned how 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:40.040 quick he is as well. Whenever you look at the 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:43.160 combine that he had, he had top three numbers in 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:48.240 the cornerback class in arm length, wingspan ten yards split. 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:50.400 Now he was right on the outside of that in forty. 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.600 His forty wasn't great, but then you got his vertical 1:05:52.720 --> 1:05:55.160 forty one inches, and then you've got a broad jump 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:58.560 of eleven feet and three inches. So he was all 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:01.360 over the place and all of those us and brought 1:06:01.440 --> 1:06:03.920 out at least the show the fact that he's not 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:11.440 just a coverage corner he's an athlete on the same token. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:11.480 --> 1:06:14.120 he absolutely is. And I think it's it's very interesting, 1:06:14.320 --> 1:06:17.240 like we're talking about c J. Henderson a lot. I 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:19.800 did think the Lions might be a team that might 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:21.800 try to get out of there. And if they got 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:25.000 out of there, how far would that pushback Okuda? How 1:06:25.080 --> 1:06:29.240 far would that pushback Henderson? Then at cornerback too, and 1:06:29.720 --> 1:06:33.560 him going obviously that high and not falling back. Next 1:06:33.600 --> 1:06:35.600 team that wants or needs a quarterback is going to 1:06:35.640 --> 1:06:37.400 a cornerback is going to be able to go get it, 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.440 and life would be CJ. Henderson. So I think not 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:43.080 only does that you know, make sense as a great 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.880 pick for the Lions and Jeff Okuda, but it also 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:49.840 I think might have minor potentially might have had Cowboys 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:53.400 rampifications just because we are on the Dallas Cowboys dot 1:06:53.440 --> 1:06:56.520 Com Draft show, and I think you're I think you're 1:06:56.520 --> 1:07:00.520 absolutely right, Katie Is I mean Henderson, I will be 1:07:00.640 --> 1:07:02.880 shocked if he's not the next cornerback taken. I think 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:05.680 everybody agrees that that's probably what's going to happen. And 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:10.080 there's twelve thirteen picks that need to happen before the 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.160 Cowboys are in range. And I just I don't like 1:07:13.320 --> 1:07:15.600 the odds that he laughs that long. And you know, 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.920 maybe you're right and Jacksonville gets crazy and drafts a quarterback, 1:07:19.040 --> 1:07:22.440 but they let go of both of their starting cornerbacks 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:24.680 in the last nine months. There's a lot of teams 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.160 between here and there that could use a guy with 1:07:27.240 --> 1:07:29.720 henderson skill set. That's why for a while it just 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:31.880 hasn't seemed realistic that he would be there for you. 1:07:33.680 --> 1:07:36.640 It's gonna be tough to see even if any of 1:07:36.680 --> 1:07:39.360 those corners kind of fall, because there's a bunch of 1:07:39.400 --> 1:07:42.640 teams up in front that dude need some cornerback help. Now, 1:07:43.000 --> 1:07:45.080 with the Giants on the clock here we mentioned how 1:07:45.200 --> 1:07:48.080 things could get a little bit crazy. With the Lions. 1:07:48.200 --> 1:07:50.040 Of course, they didn't trade out of their pick. They 1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:53.840 take Okuda. Now you've got Isaiah Simmons, who's a tantalizing 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:57.240 pick and a prospect that's right there on the cusp. 1:07:57.320 --> 1:07:59.240 But you also have a chance to field some more 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:04.200 offers here guy, And this is you know the Lions 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.920 always didn't get the offer that they were looking for. 1:08:07.120 --> 1:08:10.360 Trade out of three will the Giants? And it's been 1:08:10.440 --> 1:08:13.840 well publicized. Dave Gettlman never has traded back in the 1:08:13.920 --> 1:08:18.120 first round, and couldn't this be the year that he will? 1:08:18.280 --> 1:08:21.439 He talked about he said publicly that he will consider it. 1:08:21.600 --> 1:08:24.519 But will they get the offer that's going to entice 1:08:24.560 --> 1:08:27.560 them to move down? I think you stay put and 1:08:27.600 --> 1:08:31.920 take the tackle. You know, in order for your running back, 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:33.880 your quarterback who you took in them first round the 1:08:33.920 --> 1:08:35.640 last two years, and the order of those guys that 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:38.679 reach their potential, you need to upgrade the offensive line 1:08:38.960 --> 1:08:41.320 and this this draft has plenty of options to tackle. 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:43.600 But why not stay put get the best one on 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:45.840 your board? I think the bigger question is just which 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:49.760 one is the favorite? Received a text message Fine about 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:52.120 four or four thirty this afternoon and it was just 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:53.960 a little heads up like hey man, the Giants are 1:08:53.960 --> 1:08:55.360 trying to get out of there, and it's like, okay, 1:08:55.439 --> 1:08:57.320 it makes a lot of sense, and it says that 1:08:57.400 --> 1:09:00.240 relayed the information over to Dane. Dan goes, yeah, who 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:03.240 wants to go up there? That's kind of and what 1:09:03.320 --> 1:09:05.720 are we going up there for? You know, so if 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:09.679 there's no really urgency for that quarterback too, and apparently 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:11.880 there's not because the you know, the deal would have 1:09:11.960 --> 1:09:15.080 been done there, you're right now. I guess my next 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:19.719 question would be who is your offensive tackle or offensive 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:23.080 lineman one? Who is your Who's your pick here? Dan? 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:26.680 If you're the GM, it's Jedrick Wills from Alabama. I 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:30.000 think he's the best tackle that I scouted the entire year. Now, 1:09:30.120 --> 1:09:32.479 will Dave Gentelman and the Giants feel the same way, 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:36.000 I'm not so sure. I'm mock rist and Worths to 1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:40.680 the Giants earlier today, and it's it's it's tough to 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:43.519 know how well what you know. There's certain things with 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:45.960 each one he's tackle that you can really focus on 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:48.720 and say, Okay, that's what we like about with me 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:52.080 and the upside with works it's the athleticism for a 1:09:52.160 --> 1:09:55.040 big man. Uh, Andrew Thomas is kind of the battle 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:58.439 tested guy of the group. And then to me, Jeddrick Wills. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:01.439 He brings the power. He also has enough movement skills 1:10:01.479 --> 1:10:04.200 where you trust him in pass pro So, I mean, 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:06.640 weren't these guys I think you can sell me on. 1:10:07.120 --> 1:10:09.800 But you know which one or the giants sold on it. 1:10:10.000 --> 1:10:12.400 That's that's obviously the question we're wrestling with right now. 1:10:13.400 --> 1:10:16.559 Both Tristan Worse and McKay Beckton both having very good 1:10:16.640 --> 1:10:19.800 combines and good weeks up in Indianapolis. That kind of 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:22.320 caught the attention and at least put them in that 1:10:22.479 --> 1:10:26.920 conversation along with a guy like Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas, 1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:29.560 who were on film some of the better players. I 1:10:29.600 --> 1:10:31.719 think I would agree with Dane in terms of Wills 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:35.040 being my number one guy, But don't overlook kind of 1:10:35.120 --> 1:10:38.120 the expectations that are put around Andrew Thomas of Georgia 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.800 and then Tristan Worse out of Iowa, and like the 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:44.200 great Brian brought us who will join us tomorrow always says, 1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:47.120 it's it's a lot like your ice cream, which flavor 1:10:47.200 --> 1:10:51.160 you like? It's much. That's a great explanation of how 1:10:51.240 --> 1:10:55.360 these tackles are kind of perceived. And of the two, 1:10:55.520 --> 1:10:59.880 I know, Wills and Works both, you know some people 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.040 project him more as a guard than a tackle. What 1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:05.160 are your thoughts on that? Who's more likely to make 1:11:05.240 --> 1:11:09.640 that move? I think that both those guys would be 1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:12.320 tremendous guards. But I'm not moving them unless I have to, 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:15.000 so I worked. I think people were worried about the 1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:18.400 arm length. Then he goes to combine thirty four inch arms. 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:21.800 And then with Wills, I think because he is such 1:11:21.840 --> 1:11:25.040 a dominant run blocker, that's where people trying to latch 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:26.880 onto well if you put them pick him and put 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:31.120 him inside. But I mean, I think both these guys, Wills, 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:34.400 especially because he has just over thirty four inch arms. 1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:37.200 His arms are actually two inches shorter than Andrew Thomas, 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:39.920 but they had the same exact wingspan, which is tells 1:11:39.920 --> 1:11:43.160 you how wide Jedrick Wills is so broad. And that's 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:45.519 where I think that you know, people talking moving him 1:11:45.560 --> 1:11:48.640 inside because of what he can do there. Both these 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:51.719 guys I think would be tremendous guards and the guys 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:54.880 that are long time pros similar as that Martin. But 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.800 you know, I'm keeping them outside a tackle until they 1:11:58.880 --> 1:12:01.960 show me that they can't do it. So this is 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:03.600 a this is gonna be an interesting pick for the 1:12:03.720 --> 1:12:06.439 Giants which direction it decide to go? The pick is 1:12:06.560 --> 1:12:10.640 in a way continue well, I say, obviously this is 1:12:10.640 --> 1:12:13.240 a global program here or airing off throughout the world, 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:16.720 but obviously is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft you 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:19.720 as well. Just for a reference here, they picked up 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:21.920 Cam Fleming in the off season. I don't think they 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:25.160 want to throw Cam Fleming out there as a starting tackle. 1:12:25.600 --> 1:12:27.479 This kind of that gives you any reference of how 1:12:27.520 --> 1:12:30.720 badly they might need a tackle. No offense to King 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:34.080 Fleming in his family. Of course, You're you're wanting to 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:38.960 protect a potential franchise quarterback and who you invested a 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:41.880 top ten pick in last year, Daniel Jones. So there's 1:12:41.920 --> 1:12:44.960 some intrigue there. I think it really does come down 1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:48.320 to one of those four tackles. Princeton Worse, McKay Beckton, 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:51.679 even Jedrick Wills. But I know going into the season, 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:53.560 Andrew Thomas is one of those guys. Let's go to. 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:57.479 In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York Giants 1:12:57.520 --> 1:13:04.280 select Andrew Thomas. Tackled Georgia Andrew Thomas. I was just 1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:08.720 about to talk about Andrew Thomas, but the commissioner kind 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:12.920 of shifted it toward him. Anyways, just a bully offensively. 1:13:13.000 --> 1:13:15.280 This is an individual that once you're locked on, and 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:16.960 I remember watching his tape. He was one of the 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:19.800 first guys that I watched his past year. He takes 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.280 you for a ride as a defensive wind in because 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:24.840 once he gets his mits onia, he's tough to lock 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:29.559 off of. And Andrew Thomas, Yeah, I think he's he's 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:32.320 battle tested in the SEC and kind of like you mentioned, 1:13:33.000 --> 1:13:37.920 teams they like offensive linemen that can latch, run and 1:13:38.040 --> 1:13:40.599 sustain and this guy he he can do it now. 1:13:40.720 --> 1:13:43.120 My my issues with Andrew Thomas were some of the 1:13:43.160 --> 1:13:47.280 balance issues got to them at times in space. But 1:13:47.960 --> 1:13:49.720 I mean, he is going to be a long time 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:53.719 starter in this league in my opinion. The size, the length, 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:56.479 he has, quickness with his punch even though he is 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:59.840 so long the limb, he still keeps tight, keeps the 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:03.200 inside that really helps him. He'll overset at times. That's 1:14:03.200 --> 1:14:05.720 where the balance issues come in. But this is this 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:09.439 the player who's gonna be an immediate tackle, but he 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:12.040 can also play right tackle if the Giants need him too. 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:14.280 So I think that versatility, the fact that he had 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:17.960 four one starts the SEC. There's just tough holes. And 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:23.360 Andrew Thomas bargue Dane that that might pay Ah might 1:14:23.439 --> 1:14:27.320 be safer than than Wills or worse, given that you 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:29.000 know there are a high teams who may be were 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:32.600 concerned about those two guys moving inside. Yeah, that's it. No, 1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:35.120 he is the safe pick, I think because he's battle 1:14:35.160 --> 1:14:37.800 tested in the SEC. He was at right tackle as 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:41.200 a freshman All American. Isaiah Wynn goes to the NFL 1:14:41.200 --> 1:14:42.760 as a first round draft pick. He moves to the 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:45.120 left side, and he holds it down the last two years. 1:14:45.400 --> 1:14:48.720 He's durable. I think he just his clear packaging on 1:14:48.840 --> 1:14:51.320 the box. You know exactly what you're getting with Andrew Thomas. 1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:54.880 I don't think there's much projection here with with this player. 1:14:54.960 --> 1:14:57.160 He is a just a really good rumbucker, really good 1:14:57.240 --> 1:15:01.560 pass pro, just an overall solid off It's attack. I 1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:05.040 really hate how smart I think this pick is. I 1:15:05.960 --> 1:15:08.559 guess I'd rather they draft Andrew Thomas. I was worried 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:11.040 they're gonna draft Isaiah Simmons, which I think would have 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:13.760 been a really good pick and a fun pick for them. 1:15:14.720 --> 1:15:18.200 But yeah, I mean, Andrew Thomas just strikes me as 1:15:18.280 --> 1:15:23.439 the classic light, very very high floor. Like I just 1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:26.120 I can't imagine this guy being a complete bust. Maybe 1:15:26.160 --> 1:15:29.639 he's not Tyrant Smith, but he's gonna be a good 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:32.759 starter for you for the foreseeable future. And that's a bummer, 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:35.559 given how much of a shambles the Giants O line 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:37.559 has been for most of the last five or six years. 1:15:38.960 --> 1:15:41.880 The weekend, I will step away and Jeff Kevinaugh and 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:46.160 Brian brought Us will join the party. And one thing 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:48.720 that we always hear about is Jeff Cavanall's you know, 1:15:48.840 --> 1:15:52.280 captain tradeedown and the idea of just talking about a tradedown. 1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:55.959 I think this might be exhibit a of why sometimes 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:57.840 just to say a traddown as an option is a 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:00.640 bad thing to do, because the Giants probably would have 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:03.200 loved to trade down. Guess what, no one wanted to 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:05.200 call you. No one wanted to get up there at 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:08.599 number four. And that's where I mean, there's no doubt 1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:11.559 about it that the Giants are probably would have considered 1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:13.960 getting out of there, you know, and sometimes it just 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:20.280 doesn't happen. So but a good pick and obviously filling 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:23.000 a need helping out that offense a little bit with 1:16:23.520 --> 1:16:25.879 Jason Garrett and Mark Columbo over there on the offensive 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:28.040 side of the football. And now I think to me, 1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:31.479 I would call this the most at least leading up 1:16:31.479 --> 1:16:33.799 to it, the most intriguing pick of the night. Obviously 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:35.960 that could change is the night goes on. But to me, 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:40.000 Miami at five, is it quarterback? Is it something else? 1:16:40.080 --> 1:16:43.080 To me, this is probably the most anticipated pick of 1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:47.720 the night for maybe one of the most i would say, 1:16:48.360 --> 1:16:50.439 one of the most franchises in the NFL over the 1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:53.200 last twenty years. That is just kind of blah. They 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:56.600 actually got a really intriguing night ahead of them. Absolutely, 1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:59.400 you get three first round picks and you stay put 1:16:59.600 --> 1:17:01.519 at five. You don't have to lose any of those 1:17:01.560 --> 1:17:04.640 first round picks, yet you still get your pick, and 1:17:04.760 --> 1:17:07.439 you get your choice of the number two quarterback off 1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:09.479 the board, if that's where you want to go with 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:12.400 this election. That's where kind of the predictions have lied 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:16.720 with Miami over the course of at least the last 1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:19.719 couple of months. But even then, it's not a certain 1:17:19.760 --> 1:17:21.559 that they're gonna make a selection here. There's a chance 1:17:21.600 --> 1:17:25.840 they trade this pick as well. Was the hashtag over 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:29.679 the summer that the Dolphins fans start a tank for Tuah. 1:17:32.040 --> 1:17:34.400 That was something that has been going on for a 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:36.640 long time now, and here we are, They're sitting on 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:38.840 the clock at five and they have a shot to 1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:41.280 go get them, and it's It's just it's going to 1:17:41.360 --> 1:17:45.000 be interesting with the injury situation. That's the Dolphins seem 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:48.519 like they are pretty confident, and it's with three first 1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:50.760 round picks, I can understand why they have a chance 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:55.240 to really have a facelift with with their offense or defense, 1:17:55.240 --> 1:17:56.720 which their in direction they want to go. They can 1:17:56.760 --> 1:18:00.200 get there, quote unquote franchise left tackle, they can get 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.800 the quarterback, they can get a running back later on. 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:05.960 They have a chance to really change their offense. And 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:08.479 I think it's going to start here with an offensive player. 1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:10.920 Is just which do they go? Quarterback? Do they go 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:13.160 the offensive tackle? I think it's it's one of those 1:18:13.200 --> 1:18:18.400 two positions. Really just don't see them going away from 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:21.080 to a tongue of viloa here. I mean, like you said, 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:24.800 it's been kind of that whole mantra of two in 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.800 the tank for twa which it ultimately ended up beating 1:18:27.880 --> 1:18:30.040 Joe Burrows the first overall pick. But now you get 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:32.800 a chance to to have your guy and have a 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:37.680 chance to kind of go there, Katie. And look, if 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:39.519 you're up there at the top five, you should take 1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:43.160 quarterback if you're if, because you may not get a 1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:45.320 chance again at eighteen and it may not be able 1:18:45.360 --> 1:18:49.759 to package up, so mat I think, so sorry, Katie, 1:18:50.240 --> 1:18:54.000 Well to me, I'm even rolling the dice a little 1:18:54.040 --> 1:18:57.880 more on quarter quarterback on an injury. If medicals scare me, 1:18:58.280 --> 1:19:00.240 I'm filling to roll the dice a little more on 1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:03.599 that position than any other position. If you feel even 1:19:03.720 --> 1:19:06.920 remotely good about to his medicals, he's a franchise changer. 1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:10.600 I don't even think this should be hard, assuming assuming 1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:13.120 you feel okay, which like all of the reports are 1:19:13.200 --> 1:19:17.000 that he's he's looking good, he's looking fine. It's just 1:19:17.240 --> 1:19:20.639 it's too important, and oh my god, he's so good 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:23.599 when he's healthy. He's so much fun to watch. He's 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:28.560 so accurate, he's got a cannon, he's smart. If you 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:31.240 feel even remotely good about the medicals, I don't see 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:34.000 why this is even a difficult decision. You got to 1:19:34.040 --> 1:19:37.040 trust David Hellman because he had to play against him 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:39.080 as an LSU Tiger fan for four years or I 1:19:39.120 --> 1:19:43.280 guess three years, and he was terrified, didn't play to 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:46.200 watch team had to play against him, and you kind 1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:49.400 of had that that feeling. I saw Nick Saban said 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:51.640 this on some of the free draft coverage where he 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:59.519 was like, I hope you're prnerback Alabama and it is two, 1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:03.479 which means for the first time since telling more, it's 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:07.840 kind of what we expected here, guys. That's uh yeah, 1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:10.080 that's the thing. It's the medicals. That's what we didn't know. 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:13.479 Talent wise, two. It was always a top five talent. 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:18.320 He does go in the top five. The ability that 1:20:18.439 --> 1:20:21.439 he brings is makes him worth the risk and the 1:20:21.640 --> 1:20:24.479 instincts that that's what really wollowed me when watching his film. 1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:26.640 He's so good, especially in the Arko game, and that's 1:20:26.680 --> 1:20:29.479 where he really shows his ability to quickly to read. 1:20:29.600 --> 1:20:32.519 He can process, gets the ball out and just like 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:36.840 Joe Burrow, he had ridiculous talent around him. Probably two 1:20:36.880 --> 1:20:39.280 of his receivers we'll be talking about later tonight being 1:20:39.400 --> 1:20:42.519 drafted in the first round and then next year two more, 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:45.280 probably in the first round. But it still takes a 1:20:45.760 --> 1:20:48.920 point guard who can get the receivers the football, who 1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:51.200 can move the chains. He just needs to take better 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:53.679 care of his body in terms of you know, watch 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.559 Russell Wilson, how he doesn't take those square hits, whether 1:20:56.600 --> 1:20:59.360 it's throwing the ball away, whether they're sliding, whatever it is. 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:03.479 Ta has so much ability. Hopefully, hopefully he's able to 1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:06.160 stay on the field. The fl A, the league is 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:11.840 better off with a healthy to him. Absolutely, I think, well, 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:13.680 you see too, you'd like to see him handle the 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:15.680 pressure a little bit better. Like you said, almost like 1:21:15.800 --> 1:21:19.280 avoiding hits is almost can be a trait. I mean 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:22.560 you said perfectly with Russell Wilson. The thing that I 1:21:22.600 --> 1:21:24.800 would say too, it was like, hey, you also have 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:27.120 Josh Rosen as a backup if he does get hurt. 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:30.320 Keep developing Josh Rosen or is Josh Rosen trade bait? 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:34.680 That's another interesting name that sometimes gets forgotten. And now 1:21:35.240 --> 1:21:38.080 with the Chargers coming up next, what does that do 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:41.120 to their plans? Because I feel like they probably had 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:43.240 two a graded higher than Herbert. I could be wrong, 1:21:44.320 --> 1:21:47.360 but is Herbert the next pick for the Chargers? There's 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:49.960 another quarterback? Go now? The now we start to see 1:21:49.960 --> 1:21:53.040 the run go a little bit. I for one didn't 1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:56.439 think the Dolphins were going to do this, and I 1:21:56.560 --> 1:21:59.040 know a lot of people did, but I just didn't 1:21:59.080 --> 1:22:01.200 think they were gonna do it. They're so many questions 1:22:01.720 --> 1:22:06.200 and so many it's too it's too smart. You can't 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.640 afford it. You can't afford to be the team. And 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:11.559 that's what I was gonna say before Godell announced the pick. 1:22:12.439 --> 1:22:14.320 Save Nick Saban went on and said, you know, I 1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:16.400 hope the Dolphins don't do the same thing we did 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:18.960 when I was there and we got scared by Drew 1:22:19.000 --> 1:22:21.960 Brees's medicals and we let him go to New Orleans. Now, 1:22:22.200 --> 1:22:25.479 New Orleans is viewed as one of the five most 1:22:25.560 --> 1:22:28.960 successful franchises in the last twenty years, and the Dolphins 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:32.000 have been a disaster for that entire stretch. It's just 1:22:32.760 --> 1:22:35.360 you can't afford to not do it. And if he's 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:37.559 if he can't stay healthy and it doesn't work out, 1:22:37.880 --> 1:22:40.920 that's a bummer. But you'd rather do that than watch 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:43.760 him freaking lighted up for another franchise for the next 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:50.519 fifteen years, well said, because you know, it's the greatest 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:54.320 predictor of future injuries is past injuries. And you know 1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:57.240 there's there's so much going on with two us body 1:22:57.520 --> 1:22:59.200 and all that, but at the end of the day, 1:22:59.680 --> 1:23:01.439 you know, roll the dice on a guy that has 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:03.640 the talent and you just kind of have to. You 1:23:03.720 --> 1:23:05.479 have to hope that he's able to stay healthy. Now 1:23:05.520 --> 1:23:07.840 with two other first round picks. This is going to 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:09.960 be interesting. I think you have to come away with 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:12.280 the tackle with one of those picks, and then with 1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:14.880 the other one, you look at running back and maybe 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:17.599 that's where you know, you feel comfortable getting a guy 1:23:17.760 --> 1:23:21.760 that is comfortable carrying the ball three hundred times a 1:23:21.880 --> 1:23:24.519 game or excuse me a season at the luffing game 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:28.040 three hundred times this season. Because you're taking press from 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.800 your quarterback, you know you're you're getting them more opportunities 1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:34.960 to not just be in those passing situations where a 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.040 pass rusher is able to tea off on you. So, 1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:39.560 like I said earlier, I think the Dolphins have a 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:42.519 chance to facelift their offense. It's gonna start with two 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:44.560 h they have to get a tackle, and then I 1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:47.640 think they look at running back as well. And they 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:50.800 played some competitive games. There's freason They had a roster 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:53.160 that looked like it might be, you know, last in 1:23:53.240 --> 1:23:54.760 the league and might be had the number one pick, 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:58.080 but they played pretty hard for for Brian Floor as 1:23:58.120 --> 1:24:01.519 a new head coach, so obviously added Byron Jones in 1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:04.000 the off season, they made some additions and then they'll 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:06.400 have some a couple more picks tonight assuming they don't 1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:09.120 trade out of them. So twoa gone. That's been a 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:13.519 fun top five. Maybe big surprise and Andrew Thomas. But 1:24:14.840 --> 1:24:16.439 and now you have the Chargers on the clock and 1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:20.080 we could be staring down another quarterback. That's a good point, Katie, 1:24:20.200 --> 1:24:21.760 is the fact that we haven't had a ton of 1:24:21.800 --> 1:24:25.320 surprises so far. All five picks were made when we fought. 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:27.560 Maybe the top five could have seen some trades and 1:24:27.600 --> 1:24:30.760 could have seen some nuttiness whenever it comes to some 1:24:30.920 --> 1:24:33.160 other teams, maybe trying to get a piece of the 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:35.479 action of the top five. We didn't see that. Maybe 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:37.840 that's a product of the virtual draft. Of course, the 1:24:37.920 --> 1:24:41.000 stories will come out over time. But now you get 1:24:41.040 --> 1:24:44.719 the Chargers pick. And even then, when you think quarterback 1:24:44.840 --> 1:24:46.960 is a certain here, you've got a couple to choose 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.880 from Jordan Love Justin Herbert. Where do they have those 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:53.040 guys up on their board? Where could they go from here? 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:56.280 Even if quarterback is the answer. And now, if you're 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:59.880 thinking about kind of the way that this top five 1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.680 has worked out, think about how happy Carolina and the 1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:05.559 Panthers are right now. Because there's a chance that Isaiah 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:09.360 Simmons is sitting there for him at seven, just unless 1:25:09.400 --> 1:25:13.920 something crazy happens here with six, that's certainly possible. And 1:25:14.280 --> 1:25:16.719 I think we're looking here at six of the Chargers. 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:20.519 They've been looking for that left tackle for a long time, 1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:23.439 and you know they signed Brian Bulago, He's more of 1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:26.760 a right tackle. So do they go Herbert here? Do 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:29.640 they go with left tackle? Obviously they have you know, 1:25:29.760 --> 1:25:34.360 three key options with McKay beck Beckton, Jedrick Wills and 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:37.880 Tristan Worths. So do they go with franchise tackler? Were 1:25:37.920 --> 1:25:40.960 they convinced enough by where Justin Herbert was able to 1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:43.759 show them through the pre draft process? So some interesting 1:25:43.840 --> 1:25:47.400 choices here for the Chargers. Big Byrod Taylor is a 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:50.840 quarterback that doesn't make sense for a team that might 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:54.080 be wanting to develop a guy like Justin Herbert. If 1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:56.240 you think he's a guy that might or they could 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:59.000 use some time before you just throw him right in there. 1:25:59.280 --> 1:26:03.240 I know I have my questions about Justin Herbert quite frankly, 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:06.280 I'm not crazy about Justin Herbert. But it's just the 1:26:06.479 --> 1:26:10.200 NFL quarterbacks have that talent and have that potential. They 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:13.320 likely go into top ten. But Tyrod Taylor not a 1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:15.720 bad guy to have on your roster if you are 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:19.200 in a situation to take a guy who who just 1:26:19.360 --> 1:26:22.200 had some question marks, as Justin Herbert from Oregon does. 1:26:24.360 --> 1:26:27.719 And I think with quarterback here it could go either 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:31.759 way because who's gonna excites you more? Jordan love Justin 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:34.280 Herbert for a team that's also looking to kind of 1:26:34.960 --> 1:26:36.920 get their fan base excited. This is a team that 1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:39.840 struggled a little bit ever since the move from San Diego. 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:41.760 They're opening up a new stadium. Of course it is 1:26:41.840 --> 1:26:43.720 going to be shared with the Los Angeles Rams. But 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:46.639 there's kind of that that marketing aspect to it too. 1:26:47.360 --> 1:26:50.160 We're all adults here, we all know that football is 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.320 a business. At the same time, you kind of got 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:54.320 to throw that marketing aspect in it. But you want 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:56.639 to win football games. So who's gonna win football games 1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:58.479 for you? But is it also going to be the 1:26:58.560 --> 1:27:02.120 right pick for your fans? Yeah? The Chargers are just 1:27:02.200 --> 1:27:05.400 they're they're tough to figure out because they've look you 1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:09.200 mentioned they're in LA and there's just no bus on 1:27:09.320 --> 1:27:12.120 the Chargers as as a franchise, and so you don't 1:27:12.200 --> 1:27:14.960 make a pick based off of marketing, based off of money, 1:27:15.280 --> 1:27:17.639 You make the pick based off what's going to help 1:27:17.680 --> 1:27:20.280 point before they get off because the commissioner is up 1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:25.559 with the six pick. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 1:27:26.360 --> 1:27:35.439 the Los Angeles Chargers select Justin Herbert, quarterback Oregon. Justin Herbert, 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.800 the quarterback out of Oregon. Sorry to cut you off 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:39.960 there a game, but the pick is in and they 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:42.080 made it is gonna be Herbert the new quarterback for 1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:46.519 the Chargers. That's and that's interesting that, you know, because 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.439 we always wondered, okay, if is it as simple as 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.000 the Chargers are going to draft the quarterback that the 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:55.360 Dolphins don't And that's how it played out. And I 1:27:56.000 --> 1:27:58.720 think it probably played out if these two picks were 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.280 swapped and the offense went with Herbert, I think the 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:03.080 Chargers would have went with the two of us. So 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:06.200 a really interesting back to back picks here. You know, 1:28:06.320 --> 1:28:08.559 we thought about, Okay, what would happen if these guys 1:28:08.600 --> 1:28:10.760 fell out of the top six. They don't. Neither of 1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:13.360 them do. And so for a lot of these teams 1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:14.840 that are picking in the back half of the top 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:17.640 ten and the teams this is a good sign to 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:20.639 see the quarterbacks come off the board. Justin Herbert. He's 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:24.040 a guy that on paper he's got everything. He's six six, 1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:26.599 two hundred and forty pounds. He's a four to six athlete. 1:28:26.720 --> 1:28:29.000 Most you know guys that are that side six six, 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:33.080 two forty they're kind of awkward as athletes. Not Justin Herbert. 1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:36.240 He is a really good athlete. Smart, four point one 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:39.639 GPA student or again won the academic his and coming 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.719 off a senior year where they won the Pac twelve, 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:45.080 they won the Rose Bowl. And this is a player 1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:49.400 has all the trades the big time. He's a really 1:28:49.439 --> 1:28:51.840 smart player, but just seems like there's something missing from 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:54.280 his evaluation. I think a big part of that is 1:28:54.320 --> 1:28:57.400 when the pressures getting down on him, he kind of 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:01.120 makes some ill advised decisions that ars own at tape 1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:03.880 really stands out to me. So I like Justin Herbert. 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:06.600 I don't love him. There's something missing from his evaluation, 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:09.040 but he has played a lot of football, and I 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:12.479 think he's stepping into a situation where Kyte, you mentioned 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:15.880 they've got a bridge quarterback right there where it with 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:18.040 Tyrod Taylor. They don't have to throw out Herbert from 1:29:18.120 --> 1:29:20.600 day one. But I think at some point during his 1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:22.720 rookie season, we're gonna see Herbert on the field and 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:26.160 as a starter for the Chargers. I mean you said 1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:28.560 it too, like the measurables there. I mean, he's the 1:29:28.640 --> 1:29:31.599 guy who actually can throw the football over that mountain 1:29:31.640 --> 1:29:34.759 over there, like Uncle Rico. Like you have questions about 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:39.080 his accuracy, very frustrating sometimes on some short throws you'd 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:42.639 see on tape, we're very frustrating. I think he if 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:44.839 you look at him and Burrow, the way they handle 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:48.320 being pressured in the pocket to me polar opposites. I 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:51.920 didn't think Herbert handled pressure very well while inside the pocket. 1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:55.640 Has the potential though, and this NFL to be an 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:58.280 RPO machine as a guy who can't run on him 1:29:58.400 --> 1:30:01.439 for being almost too hundred and fifty pounds, you know too, 1:30:01.920 --> 1:30:05.000 and being six foot six, like he can't run. He 1:30:05.320 --> 1:30:07.360 ball security a bit of an issue. Had had a 1:30:07.400 --> 1:30:12.639 ton of fumbles. I just yea. You always, it felt 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:15.240 like more times than not watching justin Herbert, either live 1:30:15.439 --> 1:30:19.200 or on tape, you just we're always going question mark, 1:30:19.280 --> 1:30:23.439 question mark, question mark, And at the quarterback position you 1:30:23.560 --> 1:30:26.559 really wanted to be exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. 1:30:26.600 --> 1:30:29.519 It was just always question mark with him. But I 1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:32.519 understand how you're talking about marketing though, and no buzz 1:30:33.120 --> 1:30:35.519 in La. You said you don't make a pick for marketing, 1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:40.040 but do you make a trade for marketing? Okay, they 1:30:40.080 --> 1:30:42.120 could have traded up in front of Miami and got 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:45.400 to a TWA would have been a huge buzz in 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:48.000 LA and that fan base. That would have been a 1:30:48.120 --> 1:30:52.360 huge buzz. You don't think an Oregon native who played 1:30:52.400 --> 1:30:55.519 for Oregon and grew up a season ticket holder for 1:30:55.560 --> 1:30:58.320 the team he ultimate played college for could have some 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:00.679 success over on the West coast little bit? You don't 1:31:00.680 --> 1:31:05.560 think so in terms of the buzz. But I just 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:07.880 think two is a a more exciting player, a more 1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:12.440 of a household name. Uh. They've got an outstanding Polynesian 1:31:12.520 --> 1:31:15.360 fan base from years of great players at USC that 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:18.719 we've seen over the years. I think that's two would 1:31:18.720 --> 1:31:21.719 have been the guy, uh maybe more so than anyone 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:23.560 else in this year's draft to bring a buzz to 1:31:23.680 --> 1:31:27.280 that fan base. Maybe bring some guys over from uh 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:29.679 you know who may be like, oh, he's I'm done 1:31:29.720 --> 1:31:32.040 with being Raiders fan, you know, or or you know, 1:31:32.080 --> 1:31:33.680 I don't really like what the Rams are doing. You know, 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:35.720 I don't know, I don't even know how Californians think. 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:38.200 To be honest, I don't know. I felt like two 1:31:38.360 --> 1:31:41.439 would have been. That's that's your buzz buzz meter guy 1:31:41.600 --> 1:31:44.360 right there, that's a good point. Go for it, Dave. 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.519 Let's well, let's talk about and the pick is in, 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:48.400 so I'm sure Goodell is gonna cut me off. But 1:31:49.479 --> 1:31:53.280 I think every mock in the world has mocked Derek 1:31:53.400 --> 1:31:56.960 Brown or Isaiah Simmons to the Panthers at seven, and 1:31:57.439 --> 1:31:59.559 they're sitting here with a choice of either of them. 1:31:59.760 --> 1:32:02.080 And I don't know how many people thought that was 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:05.960 a slam dunk. So I'm very curious to see to 1:32:06.240 --> 1:32:08.360 which of these two guys they like more. I assume 1:32:08.400 --> 1:32:10.479 it would be one of the two. Well, and if 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:12.800 they think about it here, if one of those guys fall, 1:32:12.880 --> 1:32:15.439 then you get eight and you have the Cardinals. That's 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:17.679 a team that's been very vocal about wanting to trade 1:32:17.720 --> 1:32:20.559 out of their pick. It's it's not certain that Isaiah 1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:23.240 Simmons is the guy here. Of course, Luke Keikley did retire. 1:32:23.520 --> 1:32:25.479 There's a chance that it could be, Like you said, 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:28.679 Derek Brown, you can maybe even throw maybe a Javon 1:32:28.800 --> 1:32:30.960 Kinlaw in there depending on where he is. They need 1:32:31.000 --> 1:32:34.240 a defensive tackle, no doubt about it. But even though 1:32:34.360 --> 1:32:37.120 Simmons is sitting right there, you can't necessarily think that 1:32:37.240 --> 1:32:39.479 that's automatically the pick. But I agree with you. I 1:32:39.520 --> 1:32:41.000 think it's one of those two guys. I think it's 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:43.479 Brown or Simmons, but it could go either way depending 1:32:43.479 --> 1:32:46.360 on how the board lies for those guys. Look at it. 1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:49.360 Matt Rule coming in, He's looking to rebuild a roster 1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:52.080 his way, and I think there's a good chance he 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:54.880 does start in the trenches, and that would lead you 1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:57.280 to leave the turnround of the pick. But I see 1:32:57.400 --> 1:33:02.320 Simmons the defensive planemaker, potent chel that he has. He's 1:33:02.320 --> 1:33:04.920 a dynamic athlete. I think he's really going to appeal 1:33:05.080 --> 1:33:07.920 to head coach like Matt Rules. So this is gonna 1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:10.200 be interesting. I think I agree with Dave. I think 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:13.360 it comes down to those two players. I had leaned 1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:16.360 I gave him Simmons and that I would have been surprised. 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:21.519 I have dirt go for it, Katie, Is that real? Quickly? 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:24.680 I have Derek Brown graded higher than Isaiah Simmons. For me, 1:33:24.800 --> 1:33:27.479 that's my pick. I have him graded higher than Simmons. 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:30.160 I have Germans higher than Brown, but kind of thinking 1:33:30.200 --> 1:33:32.080 of the way that Matt Rule thinks now. I grew 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.559 up in Waco, I was around the Baylor program last 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:37.040 year whenever Baylor was kind of in the middle of 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:40.080 that rise. He loves to build around some big, meaty 1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:43.320 defensive tackles. He's done it ever since his time at Temple. 1:33:43.560 --> 1:33:45.920 He moved on the Baylor had Phil Snow with him 1:33:45.960 --> 1:33:48.160 and both stops. Now he has him as a defensive 1:33:48.200 --> 1:33:51.920 coordinator at or excuse me, at Carolina as well. I 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:54.320 wouldn't be surprised if Derek Brown's the pick here, just 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:57.000 solely based off of what Matt Rule has done in 1:33:57.080 --> 1:33:59.840 the past. Even though I do have Isaiah Simmons as 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:03.920 a bigger at least a better prospect on my board. 1:34:04.240 --> 1:34:06.040 It just kind of depends on the fit in the 1:34:06.200 --> 1:34:08.840 ice cream flavor that Matt Rule and company kind of 1:34:08.880 --> 1:34:14.280 have in mind here. I like Derek Brown, I really do. 1:34:14.560 --> 1:34:17.000 I just if you're gonna draft the defensive tackle in 1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:19.680 the top seven picked, he needs to give me some 1:34:19.960 --> 1:34:22.519 type of pass rush value. And that's where I struggle 1:34:22.560 --> 1:34:24.479 with Derek Brown a little bit. As much as I 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:27.960 like I think he's a really good player. I just 1:34:28.160 --> 1:34:30.120 it would be hard for me to draft him over 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:33.040 a playmaker like Isaiah Simmons or some of these other guys. 1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:37.120 But kind of, you know, talking we are about Matt 1:34:37.200 --> 1:34:39.840 Rule and what he will prioritize in terms of his 1:34:39.960 --> 1:34:42.720 rebuild of this Panthers team, it would make a lot 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:46.800 of sense. Still waiting on Roger Goodell to finally give 1:34:47.720 --> 1:34:49.280 the pick. The pick has been in here for a 1:34:49.360 --> 1:34:53.000 couple of moments. It's the Panthers, the Cardinals, the Jaguars, 1:34:53.080 --> 1:34:55.680 the Browns to round out the top ten, followed by 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:59.120 the Jets, Raiders, forty nine, Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos to round 1:34:59.160 --> 1:35:02.800 out the top fifteen. As we are seven or excuse me, 1:35:02.920 --> 1:35:05.720 six picks down, about to have the seventh pick here 1:35:05.760 --> 1:35:07.880 in just a moment. So far, it's pretty much been chalk. 1:35:08.120 --> 1:35:10.120 I'm looking at some of the mock drafts that the 1:35:10.240 --> 1:35:12.439 Draft Show has done, the one that the live drop 1:35:12.680 --> 1:35:15.160 mock draft that we ended up doing a little bit earlier, 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:19.800 has everybody except for Isaiah Simmons picked right. So far. 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:21.880 We had Simmons going to the Giants at four, and 1:35:22.000 --> 1:35:25.320 of course Andrew Thomas was that pick the offensive tackle, 1:35:25.520 --> 1:35:28.360 the only offensive tackle as here's Roger Goodell. With the 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:33.200 seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Carolina Panther 1:35:33.360 --> 1:35:42.040 select Derek Brown, defensive tackle covering defensive tackle. Derek Brown 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:45.639 out of Auburn. They pass up on Isaiah Simmons. Dan 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:47.760 you said, that's gonna be tough to do. Kind of 1:35:47.840 --> 1:35:50.240 hurts me a little bit because as a guy who's 1:35:50.320 --> 1:35:53.160 kind of rooting for Matt Rule, I understand why he 1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:56.120 went with Brown here based off of his past, and 1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:58.920 they still get a great player. A man passing on 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:02.800 Simmons must have been to Yeah, And like Derek Brown, 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:05.680 there is so much to book about him, both as 1:36:05.720 --> 1:36:08.280 a player and as a person. He came back first year, 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:09.840 he would have been a first trod pick last year. 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:12.400 He comes back for a senior year and he was 1:36:12.479 --> 1:36:16.080 a big part of our success this year. And you know, 1:36:16.240 --> 1:36:19.840 I watched in that Iron Bowl tape. That's what really 1:36:20.560 --> 1:36:22.200 when I think of Derek Brown, that's what I think 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:25.519 of the fourth quarter. Most three d and twenty five pounders, 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:29.080 they're gas, they're done. Derek Brown, He's still going full go. 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:32.320 The motor is not quitting. He is making effort play 1:36:32.439 --> 1:36:36.760 after effort play. So Derek Brown has the character, he 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:40.920 has the explosiveness both our body and lower body, where 1:36:41.160 --> 1:36:43.240 I think he fits in a lot of ways exactly 1:36:43.280 --> 1:36:46.320 what Matt Rule is looking for. But like I said, 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:48.400 this is a player that's ever had more than four 1:36:48.400 --> 1:36:50.960 and a half sacks in a single season. And that's 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:53.560 what bothers me a little bit about Derek Brown. But 1:36:53.880 --> 1:36:56.960 I understand when we talked about it, why Matt Rule 1:36:57.040 --> 1:37:01.720 would go this direction type of pick where you're kind 1:37:01.760 --> 1:37:03.519 of driving in the right lane of a five way, 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:07.200 a five lane highway. We're gonna get there, We're gonna 1:37:07.240 --> 1:37:12.240 get there safely, and surely I feel like it's got 1:37:12.320 --> 1:37:18.040 to contribute. But what this does to me Arizona is 1:37:18.040 --> 1:37:22.600 a team I'm fascinated with because of my admiration for 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:25.479 some reason of Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know why. I've 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:27.960 just always been fascinated with the gay Maybe it's just 1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:31.320 the years of crazy offense at Texas Tech. I've just 1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:35.280 always enjoyed pulling for Cliff Kingsbury. They're so fun with 1:37:35.400 --> 1:37:39.760 Kyler now very fun here. Now those wide receivers that 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:41.760 we've talked about, if you're a team who's got your 1:37:41.800 --> 1:37:43.760 eyes set on one of those, guy, Maybe you want 1:37:43.800 --> 1:37:45.800 to call up to Arizona and see what's up, because 1:37:46.200 --> 1:37:49.760 with Andrew Thomas being the only offensive tackle that's gone 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:52.479 so far, tackle would make sense. I'm sure they like 1:37:52.640 --> 1:37:55.320 Jedrick Wills. I'm sure they like Tristan Worf's. I'm sure 1:37:55.400 --> 1:37:57.920 they also like Isaiah Simmons a little bit on defense. 1:37:58.000 --> 1:38:00.800 So very interesting to see what the Cardinals might be 1:38:00.920 --> 1:38:04.000 thinking here at pick eight. And you know, quite honestly, though, 1:38:04.040 --> 1:38:06.240 you can maybe get some value by moving back now 1:38:06.400 --> 1:38:09.200 as we've seen officive tackles maybe fall just a little bit, 1:38:09.640 --> 1:38:12.560 only one taken in the top seven picks. While and 1:38:12.640 --> 1:38:15.560 with the trade possibility here for Arizona, who would you 1:38:16.080 --> 1:38:18.439 think they could hone in on here? Because Simmons is 1:38:18.439 --> 1:38:21.439 still on the board. That's the at least I believe 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.599 across the board right now with all of us, that's 1:38:23.640 --> 1:38:26.720 probably the best player available. But is that the type 1:38:26.720 --> 1:38:29.759 of player that you would see having some success in Arizona. 1:38:32.880 --> 1:38:37.720 It's interesting with it now, you go ahead. I say 1:38:37.760 --> 1:38:41.519 it's interesting with the Cardinals because you know they the 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:44.840 first round a couple of years ago when they drafted 1:38:45.320 --> 1:38:51.000 a hybrid linebacker, Hassan Redick, who hasn't worked out, So 1:38:51.439 --> 1:38:55.360 you know, Isaiah Simmons is kind of another hybrid linebacker 1:38:55.520 --> 1:38:57.880 who you know, in order for him to reach his 1:38:57.960 --> 1:39:00.960 full potential, you better understand how to use his strengths. 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:03.720 And that's I'm not sure every defensive coordinator is going 1:39:03.760 --> 1:39:06.479 to be able to do that. This this pick with 1:39:06.520 --> 1:39:09.960 the Cardinals, you look off at the tackle that they 1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:12.080 need help at right tackles, So that makes a lot 1:39:12.120 --> 1:39:14.640 of sense if they want to keep them get the 1:39:14.760 --> 1:39:19.280 offensive tackle train back on track. So Isaiah Simmons is 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:21.160 really going to be the interesting name now now that 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:23.920 two is off the board. Isaiah Simmons to me is 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:26.519 that they need to watch at one that is not 1:39:26.600 --> 1:39:29.479 gonna fit perfectly with every team. But I just don't 1:39:29.479 --> 1:39:32.559 know how you can pass on the talent. I'll tell 1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:35.160 you how, Dan, And that's like I'm just gonna I'm 1:39:35.160 --> 1:39:38.080 gonna flaunt or flout draft rules right in the face 1:39:38.320 --> 1:39:42.479 because Isaiah Simmons is probably the best player left on 1:39:42.640 --> 1:39:47.800 most people's boards. But Arizona is not going anywhere if 1:39:47.920 --> 1:39:50.800 Kyler Murray is running for his life, and that is 1:39:50.960 --> 1:39:55.560 my goal My goal is protecting my small statured cornerback 1:39:55.600 --> 1:39:59.200 who now has all these awesome skill players. We're doing 1:39:59.240 --> 1:40:01.760 the draft las year on day three even going or 1:40:01.880 --> 1:40:05.559 is Arizona ever gonna draft a quarterback? I mean an 1:40:05.600 --> 1:40:09.679 offensive lineman. Is Goodell about to do it? He didn't 1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:14.040 do it here. It's Isaiah Simmons. Oh, it is Isaiah Simmons. 1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:17.240 I didn't hear anything from from our producer, at least 1:40:17.280 --> 1:40:20.040 in in terms of Roger Goodell coming up, but it 1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:24.320 is Isaiah Simmons. The Arizona Cardinals do go with the 1:40:24.400 --> 1:40:27.479 Clemson product. And I think this is a value pick 1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:29.680 if ever had one at eight. Still haven't seen a 1:40:29.720 --> 1:40:31.960 trade in the first eight picks, but man, that's a 1:40:32.360 --> 1:40:36.360 That's an entertaining selection, no doubt about it. Interesting and 1:40:36.880 --> 1:40:40.519 Alas Simmons again, I think you need a creative defensive 1:40:40.560 --> 1:40:44.400 coordinator who will think outside the box, who understands that 1:40:44.840 --> 1:40:47.840 the key Isaias Simmons, being of the eighth of roll 1:40:47.920 --> 1:40:50.559 pick is the fertility is the fact that he can 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:52.400 do so many things for you. That he can be 1:40:53.200 --> 1:40:55.839 a safety, that he can line up as an edge rusher, 1:40:55.920 --> 1:40:59.760 that he could be outside back, he can cover he 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:02.600 do all these things and he can manipulate what the 1:41:02.720 --> 1:41:07.400 offense is trying to do, and so speed is outstanding. 1:41:08.479 --> 1:41:11.680 It's it's kind of funny to see. Uh, you know 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:14.960 the Cardinals, like I'd mentioned, they drafted Hassan red a 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.160 couple of years ago, couldn't figure out how to best 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:20.840 use him. Now they're going to draft Isiah Simmons. I 1:41:20.960 --> 1:41:24.599 just hope they don't break their flashy new toy guy 1:41:24.680 --> 1:41:27.160 who is a lot of fun to watch, and they 1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:30.479 need to pay attention to how Brett Nnables and Clemson 1:41:30.640 --> 1:41:33.200 used him and then try to try to replicate that 1:41:33.280 --> 1:41:37.960 in Arizona. The point I was making real quick, I know, Dave, 1:41:38.000 --> 1:41:40.599 I'm sorry right to earliers, like remember Day three last 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:42.360 year and you're begging the Cardinals, will you take an 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:46.320 offensive environment? If you glossed over any Arizona Cardinals game 1:41:46.439 --> 1:41:48.200 last year or rather to watch a red zone or 1:41:48.479 --> 1:41:50.840 sitting down and watching the Cardinals play, you would just 1:41:50.920 --> 1:41:53.280 see an exhausted Kyler Murray because he's been running for 1:41:53.320 --> 1:41:56.360 his life all game long. Maybe they can, you know, 1:41:56.439 --> 1:42:00.200 attack that need later on in the draft. You know, 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:02.960 with Simmons, he's very fun matchups coming our way in 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:06.559 the NFC West, to see how Kyl Shanahan game plans 1:42:06.600 --> 1:42:09.000 for a guy like Isaiah Simmons, and to see if 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:14.120 Isaiah Simmons and you know, spying or Russell Wilson or 1:42:14.200 --> 1:42:17.719 you know, things like that. So the pick makes sense. 1:42:18.160 --> 1:42:20.200 It's just not what I wanted to see that team 1:42:20.280 --> 1:42:22.519 do because I don't think we've gotten the chance to 1:42:22.520 --> 1:42:25.040 see Kyler get a chance to fly yet. That's a 1:42:25.080 --> 1:42:27.800 good thing. I'm gonna spoil this. I'm gonna spoil this 1:42:27.880 --> 1:42:30.760 for you guys. I mean, obviously they could trade, things 1:42:30.840 --> 1:42:33.600 could change, but as it stands right now, thanks to 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:36.960 the DeAndre Hopkins trade, the Cardinals don't pick again until 1:42:37.080 --> 1:42:40.760 seventy two, so they're down there in the third round 1:42:40.840 --> 1:42:44.040 before they get another shot at this. And look, I mean, 1:42:44.080 --> 1:42:46.000 I think the world of Isaiah Simmons. I was gonna 1:42:46.040 --> 1:42:48.680 say I wish Todd Bowles was still the DC in 1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:50.560 Arizona because I think he could come up with a 1:42:50.640 --> 1:42:54.400 few fun ways to use him. But I just think 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:55.960 it would have been start to get a guy who 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:59.200 can protect Kyler Murraus. I mean, Jedrick Wills, Tristan Worth's 1:42:59.479 --> 1:43:01.720 you could you they're each the best tackle in this 1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:04.360 class and they're still available at eight. That's pretty good 1:43:04.439 --> 1:43:08.760 value too. It's go for a k I'll be quick. 1:43:08.840 --> 1:43:10.680 It's kind of similar to the same discussion we had 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:14.080 about the Giants at pick four. Hey, you drafted Sake 1:43:14.120 --> 1:43:16.960 one Barkley Daniels, Joe Tie, Let's do something for him. 1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:20.160 Hey drafted Kyler Murray high. Let's see if we can 1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:22.640 do something for him. So they got they have to 1:43:22.760 --> 1:43:25.640 attack that that need, you know at some point in 1:43:25.720 --> 1:43:29.599 the draft. Go ahead, Well, I think this is kind 1:43:29.640 --> 1:43:32.280 of working out in favor of maybe even some of 1:43:32.320 --> 1:43:35.160 those teams that are looking for a wide receiver or 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:38.000 an offensive tackle. Right now, you've got one of those 1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:40.479 offensive tackles off the board through the first eight picks. 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:43.040 The Browns, who are sitting at ten are gonna most 1:43:43.080 --> 1:43:46.200 likely have their pick of an offensive tackle. The Jaguars 1:43:46.240 --> 1:43:48.080 at nine, where are they gonna go? Of course, this 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:50.880 is a scary pick for Cowboys fans because they need 1:43:50.960 --> 1:43:54.160 some secondary helps, more specifically at the cornerback spot. This 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:58.120 is one popular spot that C. J. Henderson's been mocked too. 1:43:58.240 --> 1:44:00.519 But the way that things are kind of working out 1:44:00.640 --> 1:44:03.160 and at least being laid out on the board at 1:44:03.160 --> 1:44:05.560 the moment, there's still a lot of defensive talent and 1:44:05.600 --> 1:44:08.400 there's still a lot of offensive tackle talent that could 1:44:08.520 --> 1:44:12.360 go before the Cowboys even pick at seventeen. That leads 1:44:12.400 --> 1:44:15.439 some wide receivers, That leaves some secondary players that could 1:44:15.720 --> 1:44:18.519 eventually be there. The way things are kind of working out, 1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:21.240 it's in favor of what Dallas could want at least 1:44:21.320 --> 1:44:23.800 up in front of them and just being a jumbled mess. 1:44:25.120 --> 1:44:29.439 Jacksonville sitting here at nine, they're a very interesting team 1:44:29.479 --> 1:44:33.160 that we've talked about how they're in a spot where 1:44:33.160 --> 1:44:35.160 they need to get better a lot of different spots. 1:44:35.240 --> 1:44:37.840 They go several different positions here, but they need to 1:44:37.880 --> 1:44:40.840 get better pretty quickly for the head coach, for the 1:44:40.920 --> 1:44:44.640 general manager to keep their jobs, so to go. With 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:47.800 a playmaking defensive tackle, Kin Long going know they like 1:44:47.920 --> 1:44:51.160 quite a bit do they offensive tackle? They've done some 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:53.640 work on these tackles. Wouldn't be surprised that that was 1:44:53.680 --> 1:44:57.360 maybe a surprise pack here. CJ. Henderson is a player 1:44:57.439 --> 1:44:59.559 that you know, you look at the cornerback depth chart 1:45:00.040 --> 1:45:02.960 Jacksonville two years ago, it was a strength. One of 1:45:03.000 --> 1:45:06.519 the best cornerbacks depth charts in the league now, it's 1:45:06.560 --> 1:45:09.600 one of the worst with several replacement level players at 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:12.240 the top. CJ. Henderson I think would come in. I 1:45:12.240 --> 1:45:14.600 don't think it'd take them very long to ascend to 1:45:14.720 --> 1:45:20.400 be the top point corner on that team. To go 1:45:20.560 --> 1:45:22.680 for it. Katie Well, as I said, I just think 1:45:22.720 --> 1:45:25.519 that makes a lot of sense, especially for a team 1:45:25.640 --> 1:45:28.360 that's rebuilding. I'd be interested to see what their pick 1:45:28.400 --> 1:45:30.639 would be if maybe maybe Herbert was still on the board. 1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:33.640 But that's the thing that makes the most sense. I mean, 1:45:33.720 --> 1:45:37.519 it's full rebuild time right now. Who's your who's your 1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:40.880 highest graded player for them? And that's kind of where 1:45:40.880 --> 1:45:44.200 I think that that pick needs to be. So well, 1:45:44.600 --> 1:45:49.240 everybother interesting team. They need defensive tackle, they need safety. 1:45:49.560 --> 1:45:52.240 Each one of those they could potentially have a chance 1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:55.160 at a little bit later on in the first round. 1:45:55.200 --> 1:45:57.439 Of course, they pick at twenty. You could say maybe 1:45:58.280 --> 1:46:01.120 Javon Kinlaw could make it all the way to pick twenty, 1:46:01.160 --> 1:46:03.040 even if they did like him a lot. If they 1:46:03.600 --> 1:46:05.840 think that they can have a chance to maybe snag 1:46:05.960 --> 1:46:07.640 him a little bit later in the first round, they 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:09.640 may pass up on him here and go with a 1:46:09.720 --> 1:46:13.000 guy like C. J. Henderson who obviously won't be around 1:46:13.040 --> 1:46:15.960 by pick twenty, because if he's there at seventeen, then 1:46:16.000 --> 1:46:18.760 all of a sudden, then I think a certain team 1:46:18.800 --> 1:46:23.439 in at least Frisco Dallas area would probably select c. J. Henderson. 1:46:23.520 --> 1:46:26.240 But I'm just saying, at least off of the value pick, 1:46:26.280 --> 1:46:28.240 it just seems like corner would be the spot to 1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:34.880 go here. Think it just it makes so much sense 1:46:34.920 --> 1:46:37.280 when you can say, you know, they shipped Alan Ramsey 1:46:37.320 --> 1:46:39.599 out of town, they got rid of A. J. Bouier, 1:46:41.280 --> 1:46:44.040 and again C. J. Henderson is an elite prospect like 1:46:44.439 --> 1:46:47.920 cornerback number two doesn't typically last very long. It just 1:46:48.000 --> 1:46:50.479 seems like if they're not gonna do something totally crazy 1:46:50.520 --> 1:46:53.439 and all of the viable quarterbacks are off the board anyway, 1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:55.679 it just seems like it makes way too much sense. 1:46:55.960 --> 1:46:58.880 You say, Jordan Loves not a viable quarterback, not at 1:46:58.960 --> 1:47:02.640 nine overall, I'll know, I believe we haven't seen a 1:47:02.680 --> 1:47:05.760 trade yet. That's been a big surprise so far. Now 1:47:06.200 --> 1:47:09.040 I think here the next two picks, you know, maybe 1:47:09.120 --> 1:47:11.920 we could Cleveland being one of the main ones, but 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:15.240 and so far only one tackles off the board. If 1:47:15.280 --> 1:47:18.080 you're Cleveland at ten, we know they need a left tackle. 1:47:18.160 --> 1:47:20.439 It'd be pretty tough to trade away from one of 1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:25.880 these tackles that is still available for them. Got that up, 1:47:25.960 --> 1:47:28.000 Go for it, Katie Well, I just say I feel 1:47:28.160 --> 1:47:29.960 it's just gonna be real difficult for me to take 1:47:30.040 --> 1:47:33.760 Jacksonville seriously next week next year with Gardner Minshew is 1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:36.200 kind of there what they're gonna go with, you know, 1:47:36.760 --> 1:47:38.760 no offense to Gardner in the magic that he had 1:47:38.800 --> 1:47:41.320 for about a month last year. It's just it doesn't 1:47:41.320 --> 1:47:43.519 feel like a team that's gonna be trying real hard 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:49.599 to compete next year. Maybe that's offensive. I think that's 1:47:49.640 --> 1:47:52.800 a great, great point. But here's the pick from Roger Goodell. 1:47:53.160 --> 1:47:56.920 The Jacksonville Jaguars pick pat number nine. Let's go to 1:47:57.000 --> 1:48:02.760 the commissioner. Keep it up. With the ninth pick in 1:48:02.880 --> 1:48:08.599 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Jacksonville Jaguars select c J. Henderson, 1:48:09.320 --> 1:48:15.160 defensive back Florida. Ce J Henderson, the defensive back out 1:48:15.280 --> 1:48:19.840 of Florida. That's a heartbreaker for Yallas Cowboys fans. That's 1:48:19.880 --> 1:48:23.320 your number two safety on the board behind Jeffrey o'cuda. 1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:26.120 He's a guy that you really wanted to maybe slip, 1:48:26.439 --> 1:48:28.800 but we all kind of knew realistically that was going 1:48:28.880 --> 1:48:31.240 to be out of reach. It is officially out of reach. 1:48:31.479 --> 1:48:35.200 Henderson selected by the Jaguars here at the ninth overall slot. 1:48:35.720 --> 1:48:37.439 And Dave, this is the pick that you made in 1:48:37.520 --> 1:48:39.400 our live mock that we had a couple of weeks 1:48:39.400 --> 1:48:42.400 ago on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. So 1:48:43.160 --> 1:48:47.040 it's not super surprising, but it still hurts nonetheless. Oh, 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:49.120 I'm not trying to be mean, but like, would you 1:48:49.240 --> 1:48:52.080 call it a heartbreaker if Kylie Jenner turned you down 1:48:52.160 --> 1:48:57.360 for a date? It's I mean, this is just this 1:48:57.560 --> 1:49:00.240 is such a no brainer that it couldn't possibly be 1:49:00.320 --> 1:49:05.960 heartbreaking when you factor in his tape with the fact 1:49:06.040 --> 1:49:08.400 that he's six one two oh four and ran a 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:10.200 four to three nine at the combine. As soon as 1:49:10.240 --> 1:49:12.719 he ran that four three nine, and I know forties 1:49:12.760 --> 1:49:15.439 aren't everything, but the minute he did that, I was like, Oh, 1:49:15.479 --> 1:49:17.200 there's just no way in hell this guy's gonna be 1:49:17.200 --> 1:49:20.800 there at seventeen. It's not possible, And sure enough it 1:49:20.920 --> 1:49:23.040 turned out to be right. It sucks for the Cowboys, 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:26.320 but I just don't think it was ever realistic. He's 1:49:26.320 --> 1:49:29.320 star too talented to slip that far, and we talked 1:49:29.320 --> 1:49:31.960 about Jacksonville's needs at cornerback. It just made way too 1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:36.439 much sense imagery of Kyle going up to Kylie Jenner 1:49:36.479 --> 1:49:38.760 and saying, Hey, do you have the draft? My man? 1:49:39.040 --> 1:49:41.360 My man does not lack for confidence. So I know 1:49:41.560 --> 1:49:45.800 that he would. I know that he would, but yeah 1:49:45.880 --> 1:49:48.200 you would. Yeah, you feel like there's kind of I've 1:49:48.240 --> 1:49:51.080 got the Bieber haircut going because there's no barber shops 1:49:51.120 --> 1:49:53.360 open at the moment, So I think I wouldn't stand 1:49:53.400 --> 1:49:57.120 a chance regardless. One thing I say about him tackling 1:49:57.200 --> 1:49:59.840 his question mark how much does he like to tackle? 1:50:00.240 --> 1:50:01.960 And I can't get out of my head that Bill 1:50:02.040 --> 1:50:05.799 Belichick and Nick Sagan saving documentary that aired on HBO 1:50:05.840 --> 1:50:08.280 a few months back, where they're both asked, Hey, what's 1:50:08.280 --> 1:50:11.040 the number one thing that matters to you when you're 1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:14.559 look at the prospect like Canny tackle that's the number 1:50:14.600 --> 1:50:17.240 one thing. And you just don't always see him want 1:50:17.280 --> 1:50:19.320 to tackle. That's the problem. There's a difference in not 1:50:19.479 --> 1:50:21.639 being able to tackle and not really wanting to tackle, 1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:26.280 and sometimes you ask the willingness questions. Yeah, yeah, a 1:50:26.280 --> 1:50:30.560 little bit there as well. But I do think we 1:50:30.680 --> 1:50:32.840 might have a little potential here for some trade action 1:50:32.920 --> 1:50:35.439 with Cleveland up at ten day, and I remember you 1:50:35.520 --> 1:50:38.120 were kind of calling calling this or throwing this out 1:50:38.160 --> 1:50:40.439 there a few weeks back. This could be a spot 1:50:40.479 --> 1:50:42.519 where Cleveland might want to get out of there. My 1:50:42.640 --> 1:50:45.200 question is, we haven't seen the run on tackles go yet. 1:50:45.320 --> 1:50:49.160 Could cornerback that run began? You know, at some point 1:50:49.240 --> 1:50:51.320 maybe teams start getting antsy and moving up to get 1:50:51.320 --> 1:50:53.680 a corner that they might like. You also got to 1:50:53.720 --> 1:50:56.080 talk about wide receiver at the same time. All these 1:50:56.439 --> 1:50:58.680 great wide receivers are still on the board. Now, we 1:50:58.800 --> 1:51:01.760 kind of expected that at least to happen early on. 1:51:02.080 --> 1:51:04.639 Was maybe a wide receiver run here in the early 1:51:05.560 --> 1:51:07.600 or the middle parts of this second round or this 1:51:07.720 --> 1:51:10.879 first round rather, but I think offensive tackles where Cleveland 1:51:10.920 --> 1:51:13.600 has to go here. Guys, whether it's a Wills or 1:51:13.680 --> 1:51:15.560 a worse, both of those guys still kind of on 1:51:15.640 --> 1:51:17.519 the board. And you can even throw McKay Beckton in there. 1:51:17.560 --> 1:51:21.800 To day. The question was if Isaiah Simmons were still 1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:25.200 on the board. Here's the commissioner. Thank you, Fletcher. We 1:51:25.280 --> 1:51:27.479 are so happy to see that you're home and doing well. 1:51:28.280 --> 1:51:30.960 We're proproud. We're very proud to support you and Saint 1:51:31.040 --> 1:51:34.800 Jude in the fight and childhood cancer. And we're all 1:51:34.880 --> 1:51:37.920 in your corner, Fletcher, go get him. So I have 1:51:38.040 --> 1:51:41.880 the Browns pick. With the tenth pick in the twenty 1:51:41.920 --> 1:51:48.840 twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jedrick Wills, tackle Alabama. 1:51:49.560 --> 1:51:52.160 I hope you'd like if Edrick Wills out of Alabama 1:51:52.240 --> 1:51:54.400 the second offensive tackle on the board. Sorry to cut 1:51:54.439 --> 1:51:57.240 you off. The their day, the Browns drive to the 1:51:57.280 --> 1:52:00.960 best offensive tackle on the yah. I think the big 1:52:01.080 --> 1:52:06.240 question with him again playing right tackle at Alabama in 1:52:06.439 --> 1:52:08.920 high school, can he make that transition to the left 1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:15.599 side exactly what the Browns need. They signed Conklin from agency, 1:52:15.800 --> 1:52:20.719 who is been the right tackle most of his pro career, 1:52:20.800 --> 1:52:23.519 and so that's where he's gonna play in Cleveland. Jedrick Wills, 1:52:23.600 --> 1:52:26.040 it's there's a projection to from on left side, but 1:52:26.120 --> 1:52:28.040 I think he's all the talented do it. I think 1:52:28.120 --> 1:52:31.640 that he was top five player on my board. In 1:52:31.760 --> 1:52:33.680 my opinion, I think the Browns is drafted the best 1:52:33.720 --> 1:52:37.120 tackle in this draft. They're a little fist pump in there, Dane. 1:52:37.280 --> 1:52:44.040 We know you're happy now out of the top ten picks, 1:52:44.160 --> 1:52:47.320 there hasn't been any shifting. There have been no trade 1:52:47.439 --> 1:52:50.960 so far, and really it's almost been chalk. It's kind 1:52:51.000 --> 1:52:53.439 of what we expected. There hasn't been a whole lot 1:52:53.479 --> 1:52:56.040 of craziness. I think the next ten picks that could 1:52:56.080 --> 1:52:58.080 pick up a little bit. Now, if we're going off 1:52:58.120 --> 1:52:59.720 of some of the mock drafts, this is where the 1:52:59.800 --> 1:53:03.360 hy receiver sweet spot is. You've got Cduam, Jerry Judy, 1:53:03.479 --> 1:53:06.479 Henry Rubs the third all right here, the Jets, the Raiders, 1:53:06.520 --> 1:53:10.000 the forty nine Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos. The next five picks 1:53:10.400 --> 1:53:12.960 could really use some wide receiver help, but they could 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:15.360 also use some offensive line help. Some of those tackles 1:53:15.400 --> 1:53:17.360 are still available. And then you also got some of 1:53:17.400 --> 1:53:19.840 the better defenders on the on the board here as well. Guys, 1:53:21.720 --> 1:53:24.679 the Jets, I'd feel pretty good about, you know, Worf's 1:53:24.800 --> 1:53:27.200 the idea of getting Worf's at pick eleven. I know 1:53:27.280 --> 1:53:29.200 the dude to wide receiver help that they do have 1:53:29.280 --> 1:53:31.479 to help Sam Donald out, but you know they did 1:53:31.560 --> 1:53:34.920 Advershod Perriman, which is not like, hey, you know, but 1:53:35.040 --> 1:53:37.920 it's a little bit of help at wide receiver. After 1:53:38.080 --> 1:53:41.320 losing Robbie Anderson. But you know, Tristan Worf's, I think 1:53:41.439 --> 1:53:43.080 is a pretty good name. If I was the Jets 1:53:43.600 --> 1:53:45.759 or the Browns and you're gonna tell me, Okay Wills 1:53:45.840 --> 1:53:48.559 or Worf's, we're gonna be there, you know, might make 1:53:48.600 --> 1:53:50.479 a little sense to to go ahead and pull the trigger. 1:53:50.600 --> 1:53:52.479 So I think that's a pick that makes the most 1:53:52.479 --> 1:53:54.640 sense to me. I Hey, I'm gonna plug in my 1:53:55.040 --> 1:53:58.040 computer and charge it up and also refill my diet 1:53:58.120 --> 1:54:05.120 PEPSI I'll be I'll be bag plug there. Nice plug now. 1:54:05.640 --> 1:54:09.240 Of course, with the Jets also kind of needing some 1:54:09.400 --> 1:54:12.479 offensive line help, like like Katie was just saying, how 1:54:12.560 --> 1:54:16.040 big would that be for Dallas, the fact that maybe 1:54:16.080 --> 1:54:18.439 the wide receivers are still on the board here if 1:54:18.880 --> 1:54:22.840 they end up with an offensive tackle. I don't want 1:54:22.880 --> 1:54:25.000 to speak it into existence because I don't want to 1:54:25.000 --> 1:54:27.280 get my hopes up. We're still we're too far away, 1:54:27.479 --> 1:54:29.800 We're too far away from pick seventeen for me to 1:54:29.880 --> 1:54:33.200 be thinking about a Jerry Judy or CD Lamb slide. 1:54:33.280 --> 1:54:36.520 That would be um way too convenient. Especially you know, 1:54:36.960 --> 1:54:40.160 Denver's still still on the board. Oakland or not Oakland, 1:54:40.240 --> 1:54:42.720 Las Vegas is still on the board. There's way too 1:54:42.800 --> 1:54:46.040 many landing spots for those guys to get excited. Hey, 1:54:46.120 --> 1:54:48.960 but whether no matter what, it is the griddle of 1:54:49.040 --> 1:54:51.320 Team forty Burgers starting to heat up a little bit. 1:54:51.440 --> 1:54:55.080 It's starting No, I don't know. I'm just saying now 1:54:55.320 --> 1:54:57.360 one thing I was just reminded of. It's not just 1:54:57.640 --> 1:55:00.720 us here on this stream. We've also got some inside looks. 1:55:00.760 --> 1:55:03.680 We've got the Jerry Jones war room cam that we 1:55:03.800 --> 1:55:06.920 can go into, We've got Mike McCarthy's war room cam, 1:55:07.000 --> 1:55:09.280 and will continue to look through a couple of those 1:55:09.360 --> 1:55:11.880 as we take a look inside right now as some 1:55:12.080 --> 1:55:15.120 of the deals and the wheeling and dealing could potentially 1:55:15.200 --> 1:55:17.880 be going on here now. Of course Team Trade Down 1:55:17.960 --> 1:55:20.360 wouldn't be too happy about it, but there's some spots 1:55:20.480 --> 1:55:22.880 up here. You could potentially look at Jerry looking pretty 1:55:22.920 --> 1:55:27.320 settled right now in his very comfy and very pristine 1:55:27.480 --> 1:55:30.800 looking war room inside his house. But I think there's 1:55:30.840 --> 1:55:33.520 options here when it comes to the Cowboys. Now you're 1:55:33.520 --> 1:55:35.960 starting to look at some of those potential prospects one 1:55:36.000 --> 1:55:39.200 already off the board and C. J. Henderson. But these 1:55:39.240 --> 1:55:41.120 are guys that you at least had to do your 1:55:41.200 --> 1:55:43.640 due diligence on in the middle of the draft process. 1:55:43.720 --> 1:55:46.800 And however, the next six picks go, that's gonna be 1:55:46.920 --> 1:55:49.919 huge at how things are going to turn out at seventeen. 1:55:52.600 --> 1:55:56.600 Let's when you look at the next few picks, the Jets, 1:55:57.520 --> 1:56:00.200 I'd be pretty surprised they don't book tackle here to 1:56:00.240 --> 1:56:03.320 protect Sam Darnold. And I think it'd be tempting to 1:56:03.400 --> 1:56:05.720 go with one of the receivers, especially none of them 1:56:06.160 --> 1:56:08.440 off the board yet, but I think it's more likely 1:56:08.520 --> 1:56:12.160 to tackle. And then you know, I think that's when 1:56:12.200 --> 1:56:15.320 we start talking about these receivers with the Raiders. I 1:56:15.360 --> 1:56:17.320 think the Broncos are still in play a clause to 1:56:17.400 --> 1:56:20.280 make a move up. So it still surprised we haven't 1:56:20.280 --> 1:56:23.440 seen any trade action, but it's it's been pretty much 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:27.360 chalk so far. But it just saw come across my timeline. 1:56:27.440 --> 1:56:29.480 This is the first time there hasn't been a trade 1:56:29.520 --> 1:56:33.200 in the top ten since twenty fifteen out You can't 1:56:33.240 --> 1:56:36.480 tell me. I have to believe. I don't want to 1:56:36.480 --> 1:56:39.440 say they're scared, but I just think you know, you're 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:42.280 talking about an incomplete data set. You know, the whole 1:56:42.360 --> 1:56:45.640 process got turned on its head by COVID nineteen. I 1:56:45.680 --> 1:56:47.560 think a lot of these teams are like, man, let's 1:56:47.600 --> 1:56:49.800 just let's just try to be smart and safe, and 1:56:49.920 --> 1:56:53.080 we can get crazy when we when it's easier to 1:56:53.200 --> 1:56:54.760 do so, you know. And that's not to say there 1:56:54.760 --> 1:56:57.160 won't be a trade in the first round, but at 1:56:57.240 --> 1:56:59.880 least while these blue chip players are going off the board, 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:03.240 people are like, ah, maybe maybe let's wait for a 1:57:03.360 --> 1:57:06.360 more opportune time to try to get nuts. Well. I 1:57:06.400 --> 1:57:08.480 think that's a good point because even going into it, 1:57:08.600 --> 1:57:11.040 we were asking the question, how tough is it going 1:57:11.160 --> 1:57:13.200 to end up being to make a trade, to get 1:57:13.280 --> 1:57:15.360 on the phone and to try and at least pull 1:57:15.400 --> 1:57:18.960 the trigger on some of these deals. Especially, I don't 1:57:19.000 --> 1:57:22.360 think the communication between teams would be necessarily the hard part. 1:57:22.400 --> 1:57:26.400 It might be the communication between your own organization and 1:57:26.600 --> 1:57:29.280 having everyone in separate rooms. You're not in that war 1:57:29.400 --> 1:57:31.520 room where you can kind of have that back to 1:57:31.600 --> 1:57:34.040 back conversation and say, hey, let's go up and get 1:57:34.080 --> 1:57:35.880 a guy here, or hey, I like this guy, we 1:57:35.960 --> 1:57:37.720 don't have a chance to get him at seventeen, let's 1:57:37.720 --> 1:57:40.560 go make a trade. There's plenty of those those conversations 1:57:40.640 --> 1:57:42.920 that happen in a war room, they may not happen 1:57:43.000 --> 1:57:46.160 as organically as we normally would think, at least in 1:57:46.240 --> 1:57:49.600 the middle of a virtual reality in which we live 1:57:49.640 --> 1:57:53.920 in right now. For the sake of conversation, any name, 1:57:54.240 --> 1:57:56.560 if you're at seventeen, any name that jumps out at 1:57:56.600 --> 1:57:58.520 you that would make you want to get on the 1:57:58.640 --> 1:58:04.040 horn to maybe move up to eleven or twelve. Oh yeah, 1:58:04.400 --> 1:58:07.520 ceedee lamb. But I can't do it, man. I need 1:58:07.720 --> 1:58:11.000 I need these picks, and and I feel good about 1:58:11.000 --> 1:58:14.000 who's still there with what you know, six picks to go. 1:58:14.880 --> 1:58:18.560 How bad do you want Chase On? I mean, I'd 1:58:18.600 --> 1:58:20.320 be happy to draft Chase On, but I don't need 1:58:20.360 --> 1:58:25.480 to trade up for him, Okay, with Terrell or digs 1:58:26.280 --> 1:58:30.720 see if you stay put? Okay, is is the right word? 1:58:30.880 --> 1:58:34.960 I'd be Okay, I'm not gonna be celebrating, but I'm 1:58:35.040 --> 1:58:37.680 fine with that. Well, and the pick gets in here 1:58:37.720 --> 1:58:41.640 for the Jets, by the way, go for it, Katie. 1:58:43.280 --> 1:58:46.360 We're still in the range where you'd have to give 1:58:46.440 --> 1:58:50.040 up your second to move up this far. Um. Maybe 1:58:50.080 --> 1:58:53.360 we can rehash this in or maybe we'll open up 1:58:53.360 --> 1:58:54.960 the discussion again in a minute to where you get 1:58:54.960 --> 1:59:00.680 to the conversation, you can get to thirteen probably for 1:59:00.800 --> 1:59:03.320 like a third round pick, and we know San Francisco 1:59:03.440 --> 1:59:06.920 doesn't want to keep that pick. But it's I mean, 1:59:07.000 --> 1:59:09.080 I don't I don't know, man, this receiver class is 1:59:09.160 --> 1:59:11.120 so loaded. How am I getting rid of a guy? 1:59:11.600 --> 1:59:14.320 We'll think about it this way, Dave. If the offensive 1:59:14.360 --> 1:59:16.720 tackle is where the Jets end up going here at 1:59:16.760 --> 1:59:21.920 pick eleven, then that guarantees that either Ceedee Lamb or 1:59:22.080 --> 1:59:24.440 Jerry Judy are going to be there at thirteen. Would 1:59:24.480 --> 1:59:26.320 you trade a third round pick to go get Jerry 1:59:26.400 --> 1:59:29.840 Judy or Ceedee Lamb? Oh? Because the receiver class is 1:59:29.920 --> 1:59:33.520 deep and I need picks. I need players, y'all. Like 1:59:33.720 --> 1:59:39.120 this team isn't one player away? Dave. Yeah, I said 1:59:39.160 --> 1:59:41.800 it's just for the sake of discussion. I know, no, 1:59:41.920 --> 1:59:44.040 But like I can feel y'all, I can feel y'all 1:59:44.120 --> 1:59:46.640 pushing me toward the edge. You're trying to get me 1:59:46.720 --> 1:59:49.480 to jump off. Well, who are you team forty Burger? 1:59:49.520 --> 1:59:52.320 Are you captain? Trade down? Where are you happening here? 1:59:52.560 --> 1:59:55.920 I'm team responsible drafting most of all. That's my number 1:59:56.040 --> 2:00:02.920 one priority here is Roger Goodell with the eleventh pick 2:00:03.360 --> 2:00:06.480 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft the New York Jets. 2:00:06.520 --> 2:00:15.560 Flack Macai Beckton Tackleuisville Wow McKay. Beckton, tackle of Louisville, 2:00:16.360 --> 2:00:19.240 is the pick at pick eleven for the New York Jets. 2:00:19.280 --> 2:00:21.560 The wide receivers are still on the board here, Dave, 2:00:23.880 --> 2:00:26.520 I say, Kyle, there's a lot of land mines left 2:00:26.560 --> 2:00:29.760 to navigate. Man. I like pushing you to the edge. 2:00:29.880 --> 2:00:33.160 I want you to don't want you to come. I'm 2:00:33.200 --> 2:00:36.200 getting Nancy. Yeah, Beck Then, I don't think there's a 2:00:36.240 --> 2:00:38.800 big surprise here. Just six seven and a half three 2:00:38.840 --> 2:00:41.520 hundred and sixty five pounds. He has the most upside 2:00:41.560 --> 2:00:45.000 of this group of tackles. Just he benefits from the 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:47.800 planet three. There's so many people on this planet that 2:00:47.920 --> 2:00:51.360 are I can move like that at that length. Um, 2:00:51.880 --> 2:00:54.920 I feel really feel good for us. Sam Darnell, he's 2:00:54.920 --> 2:00:58.640 finally gets protection, uh be able to help him keep 2:00:58.800 --> 2:01:00.560 him time to throw the ball down the field. So 2:01:01.400 --> 2:01:03.840 not a surprise, as he becked in here A little 2:01:03.880 --> 2:01:06.600 surprised that Tristan Worse is going to be the fourth 2:01:07.360 --> 2:01:10.240 cool drafted among this group. I don't think it's to 2:01:10.280 --> 2:01:12.000 wait very long. I don't think he's gonna get past 2:01:12.040 --> 2:01:14.960 Tampa at fourteen at the latest. But now this is 2:01:14.960 --> 2:01:17.240 where we start to see the run on receivers. I 2:01:17.360 --> 2:01:20.160 think it's starting here with Las Vegas and then with 2:01:20.240 --> 2:01:23.280 San Francisco at thirteen. A good chance we see two 2:01:23.360 --> 2:01:25.840 receivers here if as long as they don't trade it out. 2:01:28.200 --> 2:01:32.160 Fuked a lot about Atlanta at sixteen, Denver at fifteen. 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:36.280 Teams who might want to move up. You know, that's 2:01:36.320 --> 2:01:38.320 a teams to keep an eye on if if there 2:01:38.360 --> 2:01:40.839 were to be some trade action right there. With Beckton, 2:01:41.480 --> 2:01:44.880 it's pretty incredible watching him on tape. You just don't 2:01:44.920 --> 2:01:47.800 see many guys who are that big move that well. 2:01:48.040 --> 2:01:51.360 It's kind of a freak of nature man to be 2:01:51.560 --> 2:01:54.000 that huge, you know. You think the bigger guys that 2:01:54.160 --> 2:01:56.280 I was thinking, like, oh, the Orlando Brown, well he 2:01:56.320 --> 2:01:59.080 couldn't move very well. Ended up being a solid player too. 2:01:59.680 --> 2:02:02.800 But McKay beck Dion can actually bend a little bit 2:02:02.880 --> 2:02:05.240 and move. You would see him kind of in latent 2:02:05.280 --> 2:02:08.160 games were down a little bit sometimes watching on tape 2:02:08.160 --> 2:02:10.320 and you'd see that kind of be a little bit 2:02:10.320 --> 2:02:12.320 of an issue, and we start playing a little bit 2:02:12.720 --> 2:02:15.760 a little bit higher, but I mean six seven, three 2:02:15.960 --> 2:02:20.800 sixty five. There's probably a little bit you know, bust there, 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:25.240 but really great player, really fun to watch on tape 2:02:25.280 --> 2:02:28.320 as well in preparation for the draft. The thing is 2:02:28.440 --> 2:02:31.160 is he was a basketball player back in high school. 2:02:31.200 --> 2:02:33.840 He's got that basketball background. I really wanted to see 2:02:33.960 --> 2:02:36.920 him run those change of direction drills at the combine. 2:02:36.960 --> 2:02:38.680 Didn't run a ton of those, and of course didn't 2:02:38.680 --> 2:02:40.480 have a pro day to run it at either. But 2:02:41.080 --> 2:02:43.320 I mean, he's the largest offensive tackle in the class 2:02:43.360 --> 2:02:45.520 in terms of weight, and he's actually the largest to 2:02:45.600 --> 2:02:48.760 run a sub five to forty in the forty yard 2:02:48.840 --> 2:02:52.240 dash in Indianapolis since two thousand and six, I believe 2:02:52.320 --> 2:02:55.080 it's it's been more than a decade since we've seen 2:02:55.160 --> 2:02:57.480 a player of his size move the way that he does. 2:02:57.520 --> 2:03:00.360 That's why I really wanted to see those types of 2:03:00.480 --> 2:03:03.760 change of direction drills with the tone and and things 2:03:03.840 --> 2:03:07.240 like that. But I really do like him fundamentally because 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:09.600 I think he's got room to grow, and maybe that's 2:03:09.600 --> 2:03:12.280 one of the reasons why he was picked against or 2:03:12.320 --> 2:03:15.040 above Tristan Worse. But I don't think he's reached that 2:03:15.200 --> 2:03:18.080 ceiling yet, and I think That's why you look at 2:03:18.320 --> 2:03:20.720 this as a great pick for the Jets who are 2:03:20.760 --> 2:03:23.720 trying to protect Lady on Bell Sam Darnold, who's had 2:03:23.760 --> 2:03:26.240 some injury issues in the past. It makes a lot 2:03:26.280 --> 2:03:33.480 of sense. Yeah, Dan, how how surprised are you that 2:03:33.640 --> 2:03:35.920 of all the tackles that are gone, How surprised are 2:03:36.000 --> 2:03:39.520 you that Worse is still on the board. Surprised? He 2:03:39.680 --> 2:03:41.880 was my number two ranked tackle? Is my number two 2:03:41.960 --> 2:03:46.320 ranked tackle ahead effect and ahead of columnus. I think 2:03:46.360 --> 2:03:49.440 the questions that come back is he can he play tackle? 2:03:49.600 --> 2:03:52.240 Is he a guard? Of these four guys had to 2:03:52.280 --> 2:03:54.560 be the fourth drafted, you know, and it just happens 2:03:54.600 --> 2:03:57.040 that it's going to be Worse. But I'm be surprised 2:03:57.080 --> 2:03:59.480 if he gets past the bucks at fourteen, I plug 2:03:59.640 --> 2:04:03.120 him in a right tackle and protect Tom Brady. I 2:04:03.240 --> 2:04:06.440 think that'd be a natural fit there. Worfs was an 2:04:06.480 --> 2:04:10.440 absolute workout warrior at the combine, plus he came in 2:04:10.600 --> 2:04:13.880 with thirty four inch arms, plus the tapes good. I 2:04:13.960 --> 2:04:16.960 mean with Worfs, you know there are times where he oversets, 2:04:17.000 --> 2:04:19.600 and you know there's some things about him that he 2:04:19.720 --> 2:04:22.240 needs to tighten up. But still, this is a really 2:04:22.280 --> 2:04:25.160 good player who I don't think I have to wait 2:04:25.280 --> 2:04:28.560 very long to hear his name. Cole how the pick 2:04:28.760 --> 2:04:31.280 is in for the Las Vegas Raiders, I get a 2:04:31.360 --> 2:04:33.360 chance to say that for the first time. That's kind 2:04:33.400 --> 2:04:37.600 of fun. But the Las Vengers, it's really not a 2:04:38.000 --> 2:04:40.880 foregone conclusion. But I feel like we're pretty confident that 2:04:40.960 --> 2:04:43.200 this is going to be a wide receiver. The question 2:04:43.400 --> 2:04:46.200 is Ceedee Lamb, Henry Rubs the third, or Jerry Judy. 2:04:46.280 --> 2:04:48.080 Which of the three are the ones that are going 2:04:48.160 --> 2:04:50.120 to the Raiders. And if you go back to John Gruden, 2:04:50.480 --> 2:04:53.280 he likes kind of taking the against the grain. He 2:04:53.440 --> 2:04:56.160 likes some of those different picks. He likes some speed guys. 2:04:56.440 --> 2:04:58.640 It may be a little bit different than Ceedee Lamb 2:04:59.120 --> 2:05:01.720 or even Jerry. Here's the commission part of this draft, 2:05:02.680 --> 2:05:06.040 including the first ever official draft selection by the Las 2:05:06.160 --> 2:05:10.360 Vegas Raiders, and I've got it right here. So with 2:05:10.480 --> 2:05:14.640 the twelfth pick of the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the 2:05:14.800 --> 2:05:22.800 Las Vegas Raiders select Henry Ruggs, wide receiver, Henry Rubs 2:05:22.880 --> 2:05:27.040 the third. What a change. You can change the regime, 2:05:27.120 --> 2:05:29.160 but you can't change the DNA of the franchise. They're 2:05:29.160 --> 2:05:31.200 always gonna take the facts of this guy. What are 2:05:31.320 --> 2:05:36.800 Raiders pick? Yeah, classic Raiders. Wow, that's that's that's I 2:05:36.840 --> 2:05:40.160 guess it's sort of surprise that Henry Ruggs is the 2:05:40.280 --> 2:05:44.280 first receiver drafted. Uh, I mean, what's that speed? That 2:05:44.360 --> 2:05:47.480 exploded space of his tape is just silly with the 2:05:47.640 --> 2:05:51.320 corners of shot. The closest thing to Tyreek Hill in 2:05:51.440 --> 2:05:54.640 this draft is Henry Ruggs. And who is more familiar 2:05:54.920 --> 2:05:57.800 with Tyreek Hill than the Raiders haven't played him waste 2:05:57.840 --> 2:06:00.360 a year in that division. This is the this is 2:06:00.400 --> 2:06:03.320 their answer to Tyree Hill is to draft their own 2:06:03.520 --> 2:06:07.040 version of that, uh, for the Las Vegas Raiders. So 2:06:07.240 --> 2:06:11.120 this is a fascinating pick. Uh. There was no consensus 2:06:11.200 --> 2:06:13.280 on these receivers who would be the first one drafted, 2:06:13.360 --> 2:06:16.720 so interesting that it ended up being Henry Ruggs. I 2:06:16.880 --> 2:06:19.560 like about him is as fast as you are? Didn't 2:06:19.640 --> 2:06:23.680 the really the ability to stop? I remember talking about, uh, 2:06:23.880 --> 2:06:26.800 you know Luca don Chet's with the Mavericks, his deceleration 2:06:27.200 --> 2:06:30.920 and how that throws off defenders. Henry Ruggs, we know 2:06:31.040 --> 2:06:33.720 the speed, we know the four two seven combine time, 2:06:34.120 --> 2:06:36.320 forty comment time, but we watch him on tape the 2:06:36.360 --> 2:06:40.280 ability to stop just really quickly. He's just he's as 2:06:40.360 --> 2:06:43.640 dynamic as they come. And uh, you know, not my 2:06:43.840 --> 2:06:46.600 number one graded wide receiver. But it's hard to blame 2:06:46.800 --> 2:06:48.600 Las Vegas at all for taking that pick. That's a 2:06:48.640 --> 2:06:51.960 great player. Crazy. If I think it is easy to 2:06:52.040 --> 2:06:58.120 blame them, I mean he must not be a Mayock fan. 2:06:59.440 --> 2:07:02.480 I just think CD Lamb offers you the same explosive 2:07:02.600 --> 2:07:06.560 playmaking ability with better route running, just a better all 2:07:06.600 --> 2:07:09.840 around game. Am I crazy? Dan? Am I crazy? I 2:07:09.920 --> 2:07:13.640 think the Big twelve is part partly to blame for that, 2:07:13.760 --> 2:07:16.640 with some of the bad tackling in that that conference. 2:07:16.880 --> 2:07:21.480 Uh like Ceedee, Lamb's no question a better route runner. 2:07:21.760 --> 2:07:24.360 He is better at the catch point, but in terms 2:07:24.400 --> 2:07:28.040 of explosiveness, in terms of the ability to create separation 2:07:28.280 --> 2:07:31.080 and then create after the catch. I don't think there's 2:07:31.080 --> 2:07:34.320 any any comparison between these two guys. Henry Ruggs is 2:07:34.360 --> 2:07:37.280 just he puts corners in a blender and does not 2:07:37.440 --> 2:07:40.919 let them get out alive. He has some special special ability, 2:07:41.200 --> 2:07:43.120 And I like CD Lamb is my top receiver, so 2:07:43.400 --> 2:07:45.480 I still think very highly of him. I think he's 2:07:45.520 --> 2:07:49.240 more DeAndre Hopkins where I think Henry Ruggs is more 2:07:49.320 --> 2:07:53.280 Tyreek kill and both are going to make an impact immediately. 2:07:53.400 --> 2:07:55.880 But I can't go wrong. I do want to point 2:07:55.920 --> 2:07:58.680 this out. The phone is ringing off the hook in 2:07:58.760 --> 2:08:00.880 San Francisco right now, any of that right now because 2:08:00.960 --> 2:08:03.480 Ceedee Lamb is there and San Francisco has been very 2:08:03.760 --> 2:08:06.360 adamant about the fact they want out of this pick. 2:08:06.840 --> 2:08:09.080 But now that Ceedee Lambs sitting on the table for 2:08:09.200 --> 2:08:11.640 him at thirteen, are they even going to pick up 2:08:11.680 --> 2:08:16.520 the phone now? I wouldn't Could could dt be a 2:08:16.640 --> 2:08:20.040 play here, Kim Law to help replace the Forrest Buttner. 2:08:21.440 --> 2:08:23.200 I don't know if that's something they would do, but 2:08:23.360 --> 2:08:26.040 they're they're picking here because they traded to Forrest Buckner 2:08:26.440 --> 2:08:29.400 to the Colts. That's a pretty good way to restock 2:08:29.440 --> 2:08:31.760 the cupboard right there, and be to take javon Kin Law, 2:08:31.800 --> 2:08:36.800 assuming they were down with the medicals, that would make 2:08:36.880 --> 2:08:40.160 some sense. I know that's in our beat writer mock 2:08:40.240 --> 2:08:42.000 draft at the Athletic. I know that's where our San 2:08:42.040 --> 2:08:44.600 Francisco forty nine ers beat writer went was javon Kin 2:08:44.720 --> 2:08:48.560 Law at thirteen. And you have to wonder, you know 2:08:48.640 --> 2:08:51.840 one reason Dante Pettis isn't working out with the forty 2:08:51.920 --> 2:08:55.280 nine ers. Is just he doesn't have I think the 2:08:55.400 --> 2:08:58.480 toughness that Kyle Shanahan wants. How does he view a 2:08:58.560 --> 2:09:01.280 guy like Jerry Judy, who is very similar to a 2:09:01.360 --> 2:09:04.120 Dante Pettis type. Does he think that Jerry Judy has 2:09:04.160 --> 2:09:06.480 that type of toughness? What about Ceedee Lamb? How does 2:09:06.520 --> 2:09:10.120 he fit within that offense? So? I think you know, 2:09:10.560 --> 2:09:13.200 if they're are they getting the trade action? Do they 2:09:13.280 --> 2:09:15.920 see a receiver that they want badly enough? Here? At 2:09:15.960 --> 2:09:19.040 this point, I don't think forty nine ers they have 2:09:19.120 --> 2:09:21.480 picks thirteen and thirty one. I'd be pretty surprised that 2:09:21.520 --> 2:09:23.120 they've made both of those picks. I think they're a 2:09:23.240 --> 2:09:25.440 trade out of at least one of them. It could 2:09:25.520 --> 2:09:29.040 be here, but are we I'm still shocked. We're still 2:09:29.080 --> 2:09:32.960 waiting for our first trade us say that Henry Ruggs 2:09:33.040 --> 2:09:36.400 just put on an old Spice Rowe what a legend 2:09:36.960 --> 2:09:42.920 at his house, earning some Brownie points with Menie Spice. 2:09:44.680 --> 2:09:46.480 I would have really liked to see what he would 2:09:46.520 --> 2:09:49.560 have done picked by the Raiders. You talk about the 2:09:49.920 --> 2:09:53.160 flashiness of John Gruten, but hey, he's a he's a 2:09:53.200 --> 2:09:56.160 flashy guy himself. He loves the attension and the spotlight. 2:09:56.200 --> 2:09:58.000 It would have been fun to see him walk across 2:09:58.040 --> 2:10:02.240 the stage. But ceedee Lamb, Jerry Judy. And then you 2:10:02.360 --> 2:10:05.960 also got a couple spots behind the forty nine ers 2:10:06.040 --> 2:10:08.560 that could potentially pull up a wide receiver in the 2:10:08.560 --> 2:10:11.480 Buccaneers at fourteen. I know they've got other needs other 2:10:11.560 --> 2:10:14.520 than a wide receiver. But you've got the Broncos and 2:10:14.560 --> 2:10:16.720 the Falcons of fifteen and sixteen, and then you get 2:10:16.760 --> 2:10:19.400 to our Dallas Cowboys, so there's a lot of I 2:10:19.480 --> 2:10:21.800 think we might be getting some I'm sorry, Kyle, I 2:10:21.840 --> 2:10:23.600 think that we might be getting a little action here. 2:10:23.840 --> 2:10:25.440 I don't know if the forty nine ers are going 2:10:25.520 --> 2:10:28.400 to be the team that makes this pick right here. Oh? Really, 2:10:28.520 --> 2:10:31.960 do you have some insider information there, kat Well? I 2:10:32.000 --> 2:10:34.080 figured out are they gonna if we'll get the audio 2:10:34.120 --> 2:10:35.480 of it. I was the commissioner going to come out 2:10:35.480 --> 2:10:37.440 and announce trades? Should I just go ahead and say 2:10:38.400 --> 2:10:41.400 one of the rules. Yeah, let's go ahead and say it. 2:10:42.120 --> 2:10:44.600 Don't believe me in the dark, bro, I'm not gonna 2:10:44.600 --> 2:10:50.920 spoil anything. Multiple reports on Putter saying that Tampa Bay 2:10:51.040 --> 2:10:58.120 is sliding up one whoa okay, interesting trading with the Bucks. 2:10:58.520 --> 2:11:04.080 So that's Ian Rappaport reporting that it just makes too 2:11:04.160 --> 2:11:06.480 much sense to for Tampa to get a tackle for 2:11:06.840 --> 2:11:11.600 for Tampa, Tom Tampa Bay that's worried that team would 2:11:11.600 --> 2:11:14.839 trade in front of them to get worse. It's always interesting. 2:11:15.280 --> 2:11:18.000 It's always just when you have that one street up, 2:11:18.160 --> 2:11:21.080 you know that that one spot because I mean San 2:11:21.120 --> 2:11:24.840 Francisco is definitely in play for an offensive tackle when 2:11:24.880 --> 2:11:27.520 you look at you know, Joe Statily's not a spring chicken, 2:11:27.760 --> 2:11:31.280 and Mike McGlinchey on one side, they could they could 2:11:31.280 --> 2:11:33.320 go tackle at some point in the first round here. 2:11:33.920 --> 2:11:37.360 But interesting that they Tampa made that move one spot 2:11:37.520 --> 2:11:41.800 up to eliminate any possibility of maybe worth not falling 2:11:41.880 --> 2:11:45.160 there are we sure worse is the pick? I'm not sure. 2:11:47.800 --> 2:11:50.280 But if it is worse, that is the most clearly 2:11:50.360 --> 2:11:53.800 defined tier uh in terms of a position group maybe 2:11:53.840 --> 2:11:57.640 I've ever seen, Like, okay, there's there's where the good 2:11:57.680 --> 2:12:00.520 guys are going. Now here's the okay, tackle are next? 2:12:00.600 --> 2:12:03.400 Like if that's the pick, but we'll see. I can't imagine, 2:12:03.560 --> 2:12:05.600 I mean, I can't imagine Tampa's doing this for a 2:12:05.720 --> 2:12:08.040 receiver when they have Godwin and Evans and they just 2:12:08.280 --> 2:12:12.200 got Bronk back. I just so, what would they do 2:12:12.320 --> 2:12:15.880 this for? One seventeen goes to San Francisco. So San 2:12:15.920 --> 2:12:20.520 Francisco gets fourteen and one seventeen that's a fourth rounderth rounder. 2:12:21.600 --> 2:12:25.080 And then Tampa Bay we'll go to thirteen and they'll 2:12:25.120 --> 2:12:28.680 pick up a seventh rounder from San Francisco, their last 2:12:28.720 --> 2:12:32.839 seventh round pick in the draft. Now it puts Francisco 2:12:32.880 --> 2:12:36.520 forty nine ers at fourteen, though if you're the Cowboys, 2:12:36.560 --> 2:12:38.080 it might be a little bit cheaper for you to 2:12:38.160 --> 2:12:40.320 move from seventeen to fourteen if you like a guy, 2:12:40.400 --> 2:12:45.960 Does that change your mind? Dave? Do you? Hey? Do 2:12:46.040 --> 2:12:48.200 you at least meet the offer of a fourth rounder 2:12:48.400 --> 2:12:50.200 plus seventeen to go get your guy? Do you at 2:12:50.280 --> 2:12:51.960 least try to make that offer? Right? If it's a 2:12:52.040 --> 2:12:54.600 fourth rounder, I just can't be given up top one 2:12:54.680 --> 2:12:58.400 hundred picks. But also, look at look at this lists, 2:12:58.480 --> 2:13:01.720 and I mean, don't you feel pretty damn good about 2:13:01.720 --> 2:13:03.520 who's gonna be there for you right now? And I know, 2:13:03.600 --> 2:13:06.160 I mean there's still there's still some picks in front 2:13:06.200 --> 2:13:09.280 of them. I mean, you're we're targeting a certain player. 2:13:09.400 --> 2:13:11.520 Right we're talking about Chaseall So I think you're still 2:13:11.600 --> 2:13:16.120 worried about sixteen Atlanta. Yep, I'm counting on Atlanta to 2:13:16.200 --> 2:13:18.880 draft Javon ken Law, who I don't think the Cowboys won. 2:13:19.680 --> 2:13:22.320 That's what I'm perfect I don't know what the Cowboys 2:13:22.360 --> 2:13:26.400 feel about ken Law's medicals, but I'm perfectly comfortable taking 2:13:27.000 --> 2:13:31.760 ken Law Chase on Jerry Judy or CD Lamb. And 2:13:31.920 --> 2:13:34.200 I know that we feel like they need to go defense. 2:13:34.280 --> 2:13:36.600 But I feel like if you look past Cooper, who's 2:13:36.640 --> 2:13:38.560 got an injury history, I feel like this is a 2:13:38.640 --> 2:13:40.600 team that needs to pick up two wide receivers in 2:13:40.680 --> 2:13:42.880 this draft, because wide receiver three right now for them 2:13:43.000 --> 2:13:46.000 is Cedric Wilson. I'm one hundred percent with you. I am. 2:13:47.120 --> 2:13:51.440 I mean, okay, Dan, I hear you. I mean, if 2:13:51.480 --> 2:13:53.160 I only have to give up a four round pick, 2:13:53.600 --> 2:13:57.200 if they feel that strongly about Chase on the question 2:13:57.320 --> 2:13:59.640 just is do they feel that strongly or do they 2:13:59.720 --> 2:14:03.240 feel like, you know, that's the best case scenario. We'll 2:14:03.280 --> 2:14:08.080 take our chances with what's there, Jason, And you're looking 2:14:08.120 --> 2:14:10.360 at the corner, and that's where we get to a 2:14:10.520 --> 2:14:14.040 j Terrell and Trevant Digs and are those guys really 2:14:14.240 --> 2:14:17.680 worthy of top twenty picks. I mean it's debatable where 2:14:17.720 --> 2:14:20.560 I think Jason, I don't think there's much debate. He 2:14:20.880 --> 2:14:24.280 is to at least in my mind, a much better 2:14:24.360 --> 2:14:27.160 prospect than those those other guys. The thing that gives 2:14:27.240 --> 2:14:33.400 me pause is that I'm starting to wonder if these 2:14:33.840 --> 2:14:35.680 if one of these receivers is going to be there, 2:14:35.760 --> 2:14:38.800 because I don't think the Cowboys wanted d after receiver, 2:14:39.640 --> 2:14:41.680 but I do think that they would have to take 2:14:41.720 --> 2:14:45.360 a longheartened at either Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy. Now, 2:14:45.440 --> 2:14:48.400 I mean the Broncos want a receiver, the Niners might 2:14:48.480 --> 2:14:53.320 want a receiver. So it's not just the pick for 2:14:53.480 --> 2:14:58.160 your courage and sacrifice on behalf of our country. The 2:14:58.280 --> 2:15:01.360 San Francisco forty nine ers have created the thirteenth pick 2:15:01.480 --> 2:15:05.920 to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. With the thirteenth pick in 2:15:06.000 --> 2:15:09.960 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select 2:15:10.520 --> 2:15:16.120 Tristan Worf's pack home Yoma. Triston worse offensive tackle out 2:15:16.200 --> 2:15:19.560 of Iowa, is the pick thirteenth overall to the Tampa 2:15:19.600 --> 2:15:22.720 Bay Buccaneers. They give up pick one seventeen to move 2:15:22.800 --> 2:15:26.040 up one spot. I think this is genius GM move 2:15:26.600 --> 2:15:30.879 by San Francisco. You give up one spot, you're potentially 2:15:30.920 --> 2:15:32.720 still gonna get the guy you're gonna draft anyways, and 2:15:32.840 --> 2:15:34.560 you pick up a top one hundred and twenty pick. 2:15:34.840 --> 2:15:36.960 But it's also great for the Buccaneers because now they 2:15:37.000 --> 2:15:40.760 get a chance to protect their new goat quarterback, mister 2:15:40.840 --> 2:15:43.760 Tom Brady back there as well. The thing with the 2:15:43.840 --> 2:15:47.760 Bucks is they have a different motivation because they know 2:15:47.880 --> 2:15:50.040 they have a small window right now and they couldn't 2:15:50.040 --> 2:15:52.800 afford a miss on one of these top tackles, you know, 2:15:52.840 --> 2:15:56.120 because if Tristan Worfs goes thirteen to San Francisco or 2:15:56.200 --> 2:15:59.680 someone else, then they have to did they reach on 2:15:59.760 --> 2:16:03.120 that X group Austin Jackson, israc Cleveland or do they 2:16:03.120 --> 2:16:05.600 go a different position. They took all doubt out of 2:16:05.640 --> 2:16:07.800 it and went and get their guys. So I thought 2:16:07.880 --> 2:16:12.400 both Pampa Bay and making this happen for a great career. 2:16:12.520 --> 2:16:17.040 John Lynch a fourth, Hey Dave four picks till the 2:16:17.120 --> 2:16:21.400 Cowboys pick. I have Chason, I have Javon kin Law, 2:16:21.520 --> 2:16:24.760 the defensive tackle from South Carolina. I have Jerry Judy. 2:16:25.000 --> 2:16:27.440 I have Ceedee Lamb on my board. Those are my 2:16:27.800 --> 2:16:31.840 four far and away highest graded players right now, four 2:16:32.320 --> 2:16:35.600 best available right there to me. I know we would 2:16:35.640 --> 2:16:37.800 need to get cornerback help. I know that's the thing, 2:16:38.720 --> 2:16:41.520 no excuses. One of those four guys needs to be 2:16:41.640 --> 2:16:46.440 your pick at seventeen and key designation. It's three picks 2:16:46.520 --> 2:16:49.480 until the Cowboys are on the clock. So one of 2:16:49.520 --> 2:16:52.680 those four is guaranteed to be there. And that's why 2:16:53.920 --> 2:16:57.880 I'm not ready to trade. I like my odds that 2:16:58.040 --> 2:16:59.840 Chason can hang on, and I want to see what 2:17:00.000 --> 2:17:02.840 happens with these receivers. When you also got to think 2:17:02.879 --> 2:17:05.640 about how happy right now the Broncos are. That's a 2:17:05.720 --> 2:17:08.280 team that wants a wide receiver in the first round, 2:17:08.320 --> 2:17:10.760 and they're gonna have their pick of either Jerry Judy 2:17:10.840 --> 2:17:12.879 or Cede Lamb. So there goes one of the guys 2:17:13.280 --> 2:17:16.280 those wide receivers. It's most likely gonna be Ken Lawn 2:17:16.400 --> 2:17:18.200 Chase on as those top two guys. At least out 2:17:18.240 --> 2:17:21.200 of those four, it's gonna be whoever the Falcons like 2:17:21.400 --> 2:17:24.440 the most that's picked at sixteen. It's gonna be the 2:17:24.480 --> 2:17:27.760 one they had on lower on their board. That's available 2:17:27.800 --> 2:17:30.400 at seventeen, but there's still a lot of things that 2:17:30.520 --> 2:17:32.360 can kind of go out in these next three picks. 2:17:32.520 --> 2:17:34.360 This is what we were worried about. This is kind 2:17:34.400 --> 2:17:36.800 of that tease that Cowboys Nation has been talking about, 2:17:36.840 --> 2:17:39.360 because the teams in front of you have similar needs 2:17:39.400 --> 2:17:41.520 to you. So as soon as the boards kind of 2:17:41.520 --> 2:17:44.640 starts filing out the way that it has gets you excited, 2:17:44.720 --> 2:17:47.400 but even then it's still could at least crush your dreams. 2:17:49.120 --> 2:17:51.560 It's totally possible that these next two picks could be 2:17:51.680 --> 2:17:54.840 Jerry Judy and CD Lamb and Saul. Conversation was moving 2:17:56.040 --> 2:18:00.720 how I don't think it's moot though, because if you're'm 2:18:00.720 --> 2:18:03.680 not getting a wide receiver but Chase on or kin Law, 2:18:03.720 --> 2:18:06.520 wouldn't you be happy with one of those guys? And 2:18:07.040 --> 2:18:09.120 I could be wrong, I'm wrong all the time, but 2:18:09.440 --> 2:18:13.480 just doing this job knowing people around the organization, I 2:18:13.600 --> 2:18:16.279 don't get the sense that they want to draft Javon Kinlow. 2:18:17.000 --> 2:18:22.720 So I I think I think you're right, and we've 2:18:22.760 --> 2:18:26.600 got three picks. San Francisco Denver who said could be 2:18:26.680 --> 2:18:31.000 back to back receivers here and then at sixteen, to me, 2:18:31.200 --> 2:18:34.280 that looks like Chase on and so I mean, we're 2:18:34.320 --> 2:18:39.520 getting to the area where I mean, if I'm maybe 2:18:39.560 --> 2:18:42.199 it's not maybe maybe one of these two teams, Atlanta 2:18:42.480 --> 2:18:45.160 or Dallas, maybe they prefer an A J T. Well, 2:18:45.760 --> 2:18:48.000 maybe they prefer a DIGS. You have both these teams, 2:18:48.040 --> 2:18:53.160 Atlanta and Dallas needs a corner. It's possible. But once 2:18:53.240 --> 2:18:56.800 we get closer, once Denver's on the clock, I mean, 2:18:58.000 --> 2:19:00.240 do you do you call them and see if you 2:19:00.360 --> 2:19:02.480 make a move. I mean, would you? I know you 2:19:02.560 --> 2:19:06.160 hate giving up draft picks, but as soon as you 2:19:06.280 --> 2:19:07.800 told me it didn't have to be a top one 2:19:07.920 --> 2:19:11.760 hundred pick, I my radar picked up. I mean, if 2:19:11.800 --> 2:19:13.600 I gotta, if I got a part with a Day 2:19:13.680 --> 2:19:18.440 three pick to get my guy, I can stomach that. Okay, 2:19:18.480 --> 2:19:21.560 So now we're in we're in that territory where I 2:19:21.600 --> 2:19:23.480 don't think it's going to cost a top one hundred 2:19:23.520 --> 2:19:26.040 pick to do it. Dane, you're telling like, I can't 2:19:26.120 --> 2:19:28.920 draft Lynn Bowden if I don't have pick one twenty three. Man, 2:19:29.040 --> 2:19:33.840 Come on, it's also true, but this is something work 2:19:33.920 --> 2:19:37.640 on Saturday. Think about the sting it would feel if 2:19:37.680 --> 2:19:40.480 you lose your guy at sixteen and you know the 2:19:41.480 --> 2:19:44.480 I don't know. To me, I would feel just deflated 2:19:46.160 --> 2:19:48.200 and I've got to go with my plan B. To me, 2:19:50.520 --> 2:19:54.160 draft god, I am just a lowly lsu homer and 2:19:54.320 --> 2:19:59.280 sports fighter. You told me, is Caleban Chason worth going 2:19:59.360 --> 2:20:05.360 to get for that price? Rounder? Yeah? Yes, absolutely? Okay, 2:20:06.640 --> 2:20:10.200 because what's your plan B that I guess that that's 2:20:10.240 --> 2:20:12.480 the quarterback I don't feel great about and hope for 2:20:12.560 --> 2:20:18.120 the best, and that's in Chason's not the you know, 2:20:18.400 --> 2:20:20.600 he's not a top ten player in this draft, at 2:20:20.680 --> 2:20:22.840 least in my opinion, but he's a good player and 2:20:23.120 --> 2:20:25.040 part of why I would go up and get him 2:20:25.200 --> 2:20:30.080 because I don't feel quit about the plan B options. Okay, 2:20:30.160 --> 2:20:32.000 So you're telling me you don't feel good about ken 2:20:32.120 --> 2:20:34.040 Law's medicals at all too, because that would be my 2:20:34.160 --> 2:20:36.039 plan B if I could take Jalen Smith at pick 2:20:36.080 --> 2:20:38.640 thirty four, that I can pretty much. I mean, like 2:20:38.800 --> 2:20:40.720 I'm willing to kind of kind of roll the dice 2:20:40.800 --> 2:20:43.160 on medicals. You've kind of proven you've got a track 2:20:43.200 --> 2:20:46.000 record on that one of like you know what red 2:20:46.080 --> 2:20:49.040 flag there will be? Okay, where do you feel worse 2:20:49.080 --> 2:20:53.640 about backs than knees? I mean, don Terry Poe Gerald McCoy. 2:20:53.760 --> 2:20:55.880 We still, you know, we can't forget about the second 2:20:55.920 --> 2:20:58.840 round of Flash Year. I mean, I don't know, defensive tackle. 2:20:58.920 --> 2:21:01.560 To me, you've a group of guys you can you 2:21:01.640 --> 2:21:04.320 can play with, and as much as I'd like Javon 2:21:04.440 --> 2:21:08.920 kin Law, I would rather go with I'd rather chase 2:21:09.000 --> 2:21:13.200 on myself. Well, and the fact that San Francisco is 2:21:13.240 --> 2:21:15.640 still kind of taking their time here doesn't necessarily mean 2:21:15.760 --> 2:21:17.960 that they're going to be the ones making this pick. 2:21:18.040 --> 2:21:20.440 I mean, they've been on the clock almost for what 2:21:20.680 --> 2:21:23.720 twenty minutes now, because they had the pick prior traded 2:21:23.720 --> 2:21:25.360 it to the Buccaneers, and now they're still on the 2:21:25.400 --> 2:21:27.560 clock and the pick is not in at least at 2:21:27.600 --> 2:21:30.879 the moment. So there's still plenty of shifting to be said. 2:21:31.080 --> 2:21:33.600 Whenever the forty nine ers are done with this, if 2:21:33.640 --> 2:21:36.000 they end up trading out of this pick, then all 2:21:36.000 --> 2:21:38.880 of a sudden, you may see somebody else come in 2:21:39.000 --> 2:21:41.200 and take one of these guys, depending on how high 2:21:41.240 --> 2:21:43.160 they are on the board. But I tend to agree 2:21:43.200 --> 2:21:47.960 with you, guys, I think right now, overall, it's not 2:21:48.240 --> 2:21:51.240 necessarily Javon kin Laws the top guy out of those 2:21:51.280 --> 2:21:54.040 four that Kat was mentioning earlier out of Chase on 2:21:54.200 --> 2:21:58.080 Kin Law rugs or excuse me, Lamb and Judy out 2:21:58.120 --> 2:22:01.560 of those four guys kin Laws. Definitely, I believe the 2:22:01.680 --> 2:22:04.080 least of that, which is crazy to talk about. Maybe 2:22:04.080 --> 2:22:06.480 it's the medicals, maybe it's the feeling we have being 2:22:06.520 --> 2:22:11.280 around this organization, but it's definitely not necessarily lining up 2:22:11.320 --> 2:22:13.400 at least for seventeen to be the value pick you 2:22:13.480 --> 2:22:17.680 wanted to be plats of having some bandwidth issues and 2:22:18.560 --> 2:22:20.480 and maybe skip that pick, and maybe that throws a 2:22:20.520 --> 2:22:24.160 little wrench. We just need one of these three teams 2:22:24.240 --> 2:22:27.480 to do something crazy. I remember I'll never forget how 2:22:27.560 --> 2:22:30.600 shocked I was when the Raiders picked Cleveland Farrell fourth 2:22:30.680 --> 2:22:33.760 overall last year, Like nobody in the world saw that coming. 2:22:34.040 --> 2:22:36.400 So we haven't. We haven't had anything like that so far. 2:22:36.760 --> 2:22:39.080 We just need one of these three teams. We need 2:22:39.240 --> 2:22:41.840 John Elway to be like Jordan Love, You're our guy. 2:22:42.040 --> 2:22:46.160 That's what we need here. And then something crazy though, 2:22:46.440 --> 2:22:51.680 because what if they don't go wide receiver that's gonna go? 2:22:52.440 --> 2:22:57.760 They just a tackle maybe law that would be interesting. 2:22:58.160 --> 2:23:00.800 I would have said offensive tackle, but they just traded 2:23:00.840 --> 2:23:05.280 away from the best available. So that doesn't seem likely. Yea, 2:23:06.320 --> 2:23:09.080 I'm just saying they had some kind law buzz leading 2:23:09.160 --> 2:23:11.560 up to this. They had a lot of kin law 2:23:11.640 --> 2:23:16.000 buzz and that debot. They weren't able to get a 2:23:16.040 --> 2:23:18.600 trade for Marquis goodwoman. They weren't able to make that move. 2:23:19.560 --> 2:23:22.240 I think restock in the cupboard is a genius move 2:23:22.280 --> 2:23:25.840 if you're final. As long as we're doing this, Katie 2:23:26.040 --> 2:23:28.959 started this precedent at a Oh no, I almost got oh, 2:23:29.040 --> 2:23:31.760 I almost got faked. It was a fake one do anything. No, 2:23:31.879 --> 2:23:34.000 I haven't seen anything. It was a fake tweet. I 2:23:34.080 --> 2:23:38.200 caught myself. It was a freaking thing. It was a fake. 2:23:38.840 --> 2:23:42.160 Here's Roger Goodell with a pick. Guys, I'm not tipping 2:23:42.200 --> 2:23:46.200 them tonight. Let's just go going. I am just got 2:23:49.200 --> 2:23:52.720 with the fourteenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft 2:23:53.720 --> 2:23:57.400 to San Francisco, forty nine Ers select Javon kin Law, 2:23:58.000 --> 2:24:04.879 defensive tackle Javon Kimi. South Carolina goes to San Francisco 2:24:05.000 --> 2:24:12.880 at fourteen. That is huge. Let's go baby hot. So 2:24:12.959 --> 2:24:17.200 the forty nine ers basically trade the boner for a 2:24:17.720 --> 2:24:21.279 younger version at someone that is a ton of ability, 2:24:21.480 --> 2:24:24.440 that is you know, just six five through twenty five 2:24:24.520 --> 2:24:28.720 with Figers ability, that's interesting adding him to the mix there, 2:24:29.000 --> 2:24:34.200 Uh Seriusisco defensive line. Talk about strengthening a strength. That's 2:24:34.200 --> 2:24:38.160 what the Niners doing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right. 2:24:38.360 --> 2:24:40.279 I mean, you've done a pretty good job of drafting 2:24:40.360 --> 2:24:43.040 up the middle there. Um, it's got you get you 2:24:43.160 --> 2:24:46.360 some great success and able to go get wide receivers 2:24:46.440 --> 2:24:47.800 later in the drift. I know they don't have a 2:24:47.840 --> 2:24:49.520 lot of picks, but we'll see they've got action at 2:24:49.560 --> 2:24:52.039 thirty one. You know, maybe they could have their eyes 2:24:52.080 --> 2:24:54.640 on someone like a Jalen Raker, maybe someone like that, 2:24:54.760 --> 2:24:56.400 you know, Tee Haggins. We can throw out all the 2:24:56.480 --> 2:24:59.640 names from that next tier of wide receivers the point 2:24:59.640 --> 2:25:02.760 of disc us and now leads us to this three 2:25:02.840 --> 2:25:05.560 picks until the Cowboys are on the clock. Three big 2:25:05.680 --> 2:25:08.480 names on the board Ceedee Lamb the wide receiver Oklahoma, 2:25:08.879 --> 2:25:12.440 Jerry Judy the wide receiver Alabama, and calebon Chase on 2:25:12.920 --> 2:25:17.760 the edge from LSU. It's definitely something that we kind 2:25:17.760 --> 2:25:20.520 of talked about early in the season or in the 2:25:20.640 --> 2:25:23.920 offseason rather, was with these wide receivers and it being 2:25:24.080 --> 2:25:27.800 such a deep class. What was the possibility that these guys, 2:25:28.160 --> 2:25:31.040 even these top guys, are gonna slip because teams think 2:25:31.080 --> 2:25:33.440 they could pick one up later. I don't think that's 2:25:33.480 --> 2:25:35.400 necessarily the case for the Cowboys, because when you get 2:25:35.440 --> 2:25:37.440 to fifty one, that's a little bit of an issue. 2:25:37.480 --> 2:25:39.760 But you've got some wide receivers here. You've got Chase On, 2:25:39.840 --> 2:25:42.840 the guy that we really have pegged as a Cowboys target. 2:25:42.920 --> 2:25:46.320 Really from the beginning, it's not a certain that either 2:25:46.360 --> 2:25:47.680 one of those guys are going to be there. But 2:25:47.800 --> 2:25:51.080 either Jerry Judy, Ceedee Lamb or Calebon Chase On are 2:25:51.120 --> 2:25:53.439 gonna be on the clock when the Cowboys pick at seventeen. 2:25:53.879 --> 2:25:56.160 Now it's just who do you have higher on the board? 2:25:59.000 --> 2:26:03.600 Passing league, Let's go, Let's go, let's I mean, okay, now, 2:26:03.680 --> 2:26:06.880 actually you know, now I'm curious about Day's point about 2:26:06.879 --> 2:26:11.160 trading up with Kim Law off the board. I've got 2:26:11.320 --> 2:26:14.000 to believe Atlanta has taken a long look at Calevan Chase. 2:26:14.360 --> 2:26:16.000 I have to, I mean, I have to assume that 2:26:16.520 --> 2:26:19.200 unless they're just as they're just as enamored by these 2:26:19.240 --> 2:26:21.160 receivers of everybody else. But you know, they have a 2:26:21.240 --> 2:26:24.400 guy named Julio Jones, and they just drafted Calvin Ridley, 2:26:25.400 --> 2:26:30.720 and I literally needs corner help. So they they draft 2:26:30.879 --> 2:26:36.080 or they signed h Fowler, Ed Rusher picking free agency 2:26:36.480 --> 2:26:40.160 Tack McKinley, though it sounds like he's probably not going 2:26:40.240 --> 2:26:42.600 to be back. Uh, it doesnt sound like they're gonna 2:26:42.600 --> 2:26:45.840 pick up his fifth year option. They could use Chase 2:26:46.560 --> 2:26:49.080 use a corner, would they would they prefer a J. 2:26:49.320 --> 2:26:52.560 Terrell the third corner off the board at sixteen over 2:26:52.640 --> 2:26:55.680 the Patch Rusher. I still think dayson would be the 2:26:55.720 --> 2:26:59.280 pick sixteen Denver here, it's kind of a receiver. I 2:26:59.320 --> 2:27:02.520 would think two pair Jerry Judy or Ceedee Lamb with 2:27:02.720 --> 2:27:06.280 Courtland Sutton and you know Drew Locke. You know that's 2:27:06.360 --> 2:27:09.080 that's that's you know, because it'll make some make some plays. 2:27:10.280 --> 2:27:12.920 But I don't know. This is where if I'm if 2:27:12.959 --> 2:27:16.560 I'm Dallas, I'm making that called Denver and saying, look, 2:27:16.760 --> 2:27:18.800 one of those two receivers is still gonna be there 2:27:18.840 --> 2:27:21.600 for your seventeen. Let's make a deal. It's not gonna 2:27:21.680 --> 2:27:25.000 cost that much, and I'm gonna go get Chason. It 2:27:25.200 --> 2:27:30.760 sounds the television. The television says Denver's picking so it 2:27:30.840 --> 2:27:34.600 doesn't sound like that picks getting traded. And now, if 2:27:34.640 --> 2:27:38.480 I could be brutally honest and cynical with y'all, I'm 2:27:38.680 --> 2:27:42.480 terrified about the prospect of Dallas having Jerry Judy or 2:27:42.760 --> 2:27:46.280 Cede Lamb available and not picking them. I am too. 2:27:46.680 --> 2:27:48.840 It's happening. Who do who do you have great? Who 2:27:48.840 --> 2:27:51.880 do you have great? And hire Dane Chase on Judy 2:27:52.200 --> 2:27:56.600 and uh and Lamb? Well, I mean overall Lamb duty 2:27:56.879 --> 2:28:02.200 and then Jason I study. Lamb and Judy were literally 2:28:02.760 --> 2:28:05.959 back to back in in August my first top fifty four, 2:28:06.040 --> 2:28:09.200 they were eleven and twelve. My final board they were 2:28:09.320 --> 2:28:12.600 nine and ten, so they did not move one. Lamb 2:28:12.720 --> 2:28:15.120 was first, Judy was second. They were back back the 2:28:15.280 --> 2:28:18.520 entire year. What you're saying here is that receiver, it 2:28:18.680 --> 2:28:21.240 could end up being Jerry Judy here, even with some 2:28:21.360 --> 2:28:24.480 of the injury issues, even with some of the concerns 2:28:24.520 --> 2:28:27.760 around him medically, it could still end up being Jerry Judy. 2:28:27.840 --> 2:28:30.680 And you're talking about a guy who's gonna compliment Courtland Sutton. 2:28:31.000 --> 2:28:32.360 You want a guy in the slot. You want a 2:28:32.400 --> 2:28:35.760 guy who's going to be able to at least find 2:28:35.840 --> 2:28:38.520 an easy target for Drew Lock. Jerry Judy might fit 2:28:38.640 --> 2:28:41.360 that mold a little bit better than Cede Lamb would. Oh. 2:28:41.400 --> 2:28:44.039 I think it'd be a perfect compliment for Courtland Sutton 2:28:44.360 --> 2:28:46.320 on the other side, because, yeah, Jerry Judy he can 2:28:46.440 --> 2:28:49.240 uncover it will with his route running, and that's exactly 2:28:49.280 --> 2:28:51.680 what you're looking for. Courtland Sutton's not He's not a 2:28:51.800 --> 2:28:53.960 terrible route runner, but that's not his game. He wins 2:28:54.000 --> 2:28:57.480 with size and speed and ball skills, where Jerry Judy 2:28:57.680 --> 2:28:59.600 is going to give you a little more separation at 2:28:59.600 --> 2:29:03.520 the cat and help out your quarterback. So if you want, 2:29:03.520 --> 2:29:07.520 if you're looking for complimentary receivers, Jerry Judy, no doubt. 2:29:08.360 --> 2:29:12.080 But I mean there's nothing wrong with having, you know, 2:29:12.200 --> 2:29:14.440 two types of Courtland Sutton's out there, because I think 2:29:14.480 --> 2:29:16.800 that's more of what Cede Lamb would prove into that offense. 2:29:17.080 --> 2:29:19.720 It's a great point. And John Elway is on the 2:29:20.080 --> 2:29:23.800 phone right now. He is having those conversations, and you 2:29:23.879 --> 2:29:25.640 talk about some of the drafts that they've had in 2:29:25.720 --> 2:29:28.200 the past. They need some hits on wide receivers now 2:29:28.280 --> 2:29:34.120 because they need here NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select 2:29:34.959 --> 2:29:41.360 Jerry Judy wide receiver Alabama. Congratulations, Jerry, Judy, why did 2:29:41.560 --> 2:29:45.400 some of her element of dinner at pick number fifteen? 2:29:45.959 --> 2:29:48.960 So now it's down at least in our minds. It 2:29:49.080 --> 2:29:51.160 may not be down to that in the Cowboys front 2:29:51.200 --> 2:29:54.040 office minds, but it's down to Caleb On, Chase On, 2:29:54.600 --> 2:29:58.959 and Cede Lamb. The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock, 2:29:59.040 --> 2:30:01.600 and things are starting to get a little bit exciting here, guys. 2:30:02.040 --> 2:30:04.720 Oh bit, I'm freaking the hell out, man, I'm talking 2:30:04.760 --> 2:30:08.200 about how about how about this? How about this? Let's 2:30:08.240 --> 2:30:11.280 go ahead and turn this, turn this down a little bit, Dave, 2:30:11.520 --> 2:30:15.080 I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here. If Jerry or excuse me, 2:30:15.120 --> 2:30:17.320 if Ceedee Lamb is on the clock or is on 2:30:17.440 --> 2:30:20.880 the board, come pick seventeen and they don't select it, 2:30:20.959 --> 2:30:27.000 how disappointed would you be? Chase on there? No, okay, 2:30:27.160 --> 2:30:29.320 if Chase if if let's put it, If Chase on 2:30:29.440 --> 2:30:32.720 and if it's just Lamb, yeah, I'll be disappointed as hell. 2:30:33.600 --> 2:30:35.480 You're talking about it. I mean Dan just said he's 2:30:35.600 --> 2:30:38.920 like a top you know, ten, and I've been great. Okay, 2:30:39.040 --> 2:30:42.120 what about if Caleb and Chason and Ceedee Lamb are 2:30:42.200 --> 2:30:46.920 both there? Um? I I mean I me personally like, 2:30:47.160 --> 2:30:50.080 go with go with Lamb, but I'm not gonna I'm 2:30:50.080 --> 2:30:52.120 not gonna kill him for picking chase On even I 2:30:52.200 --> 2:30:56.000 mean it's it would be a classic Cowboys maneuver, which 2:30:56.120 --> 2:30:58.720 is to window dresser board in the name of need. 2:30:59.400 --> 2:31:02.680 But I can't hate on it because I do think 2:31:02.800 --> 2:31:07.480 Chason is worth that pick um. So I mean, I'd 2:31:07.480 --> 2:31:10.200 be happy with either of those two. These are the 2:31:10.280 --> 2:31:13.760 clear two, Lamb or chase On, And it's there's a 2:31:13.879 --> 2:31:16.960 chance that turns out that that's all you got to 2:31:17.040 --> 2:31:20.560 choose for him right there. I mean, I said, take it, 2:31:20.720 --> 2:31:23.280 take that back a J. Terrell, all these names, digs 2:31:23.280 --> 2:31:25.920 talked about them all. It's Lamb or chase On. They're 2:31:27.320 --> 2:31:30.680 did you think Lamb would be there? Quite frankly, ceedee. 2:31:30.720 --> 2:31:34.000 Lamb for me grated quite a bit higher than Calebon Chason. 2:31:34.440 --> 2:31:37.119 This is no brainer. If he's there on the board, 2:31:37.600 --> 2:31:40.600 you take it. He's your wide receiver. Three. You're gonna 2:31:40.640 --> 2:31:42.800 go score a bunch of points and you're gonna see 2:31:42.800 --> 2:31:44.920 if we can cover. We're gonna get aggressive, We're gonna 2:31:44.959 --> 2:31:46.800 get some more turnovers that we have in the past. 2:31:47.000 --> 2:31:49.560 We're not gonna play a safe on defense. This is 2:31:50.160 --> 2:31:52.760 and there's and we're gonna attack defense here on day two. 2:31:53.400 --> 2:31:59.360 This is just look remember the focus here. We talked 2:31:59.400 --> 2:32:02.640 about how they could go Chase On, but corner is 2:32:02.720 --> 2:32:05.960 their top need. And I know they were making calls 2:32:06.000 --> 2:32:08.560 to the top ten because they wanted to see about 2:32:08.720 --> 2:32:11.280 going up against CJ. Henderson. They make calls to get 2:32:11.320 --> 2:32:14.320 into the top five to go get Okuda, So they're 2:32:14.400 --> 2:32:17.560 still looking at corner here. You cannot rule out an 2:32:17.640 --> 2:32:20.840 AJ Terrell pick here at number sixteen, which I think 2:32:20.879 --> 2:32:23.520 the Cowboys would love because then all of a sudden, 2:32:23.560 --> 2:32:27.120 you are you're picking between Chase On and CD Lap 2:32:27.200 --> 2:32:32.000 at that point. So but I would hate because we 2:32:32.120 --> 2:32:37.119 know what they would do. Yeah, No, that's that's two 2:32:37.160 --> 2:32:39.680 good players there. Yeah, you're right, You're right, it would 2:32:39.680 --> 2:32:42.320 be It would be better than the Cowboys going a J. 2:32:42.520 --> 2:32:46.560 Terrell over CD Lamp. Yes, big facts. Well, and also 2:32:46.640 --> 2:32:49.560 you got to think about overall if they end up 2:32:49.600 --> 2:32:53.160 going corner and both of those individuals are there. You 2:32:53.280 --> 2:32:57.120 talked about addressing your your team need is need at 2:32:57.200 --> 2:32:59.320 wide receiver bigger than we thought. We kind of had 2:32:59.400 --> 2:33:01.880 that as a top the conversation going up to the 2:33:01.959 --> 2:33:05.640 draft So even with Chason and Ceedee Lamb being there, 2:33:05.680 --> 2:33:07.959 which I don't think any of us really saw happening. 2:33:08.440 --> 2:33:11.560 If that was the case, it looks like at least 2:33:11.640 --> 2:33:14.480 right now, team forty Burger is having a better conversation 2:33:14.560 --> 2:33:17.040 than captain. Trade down would be at least out of 2:33:17.080 --> 2:33:19.800 the themes that we've had on the draft show. I think, 2:33:20.360 --> 2:33:23.760 I think, I don't know, I don't ever speak too soon, 2:33:23.879 --> 2:33:27.160 but like I feel like trading down is is gone 2:33:27.240 --> 2:33:30.600 now because one way or another, guy, a guy with 2:33:30.720 --> 2:33:33.119 a great grade is gonna be there. You're gonna get 2:33:33.160 --> 2:33:36.720 the guy that you've had targeted this whole time, or 2:33:36.840 --> 2:33:41.200 maybe this five receiver that is a consensus top ten prospects. 2:33:41.200 --> 2:33:42.880 I mean, I don't know how you trade away from 2:33:42.920 --> 2:33:46.080 those options. Well, let's let's reset the board. I've had 2:33:46.240 --> 2:33:50.960 seventeen for strung grades on my personal board. Three remain 2:33:52.120 --> 2:33:57.200 Ceedee Lamb, Cleaveon Chason, and then Justin Jefferson. So they're 2:33:57.360 --> 2:34:00.120 sitting at a good spot to get one of my 2:34:00.200 --> 2:34:04.000 own personal remaining first round grades. But they might have 2:34:04.200 --> 2:34:06.840 a few more strong grades on their board if Jason 2:34:06.959 --> 2:34:12.600 goes here to sixteen. Oh man, I think when you 2:34:12.640 --> 2:34:14.840 think about that offense last year too. It's not like 2:34:14.920 --> 2:34:16.840 they were putting teams away in the second half of 2:34:16.959 --> 2:34:19.280 last year. And I know there was a lot of 2:34:20.280 --> 2:34:22.960 things going on with that Cowboys team last year. Right now, 2:34:23.040 --> 2:34:25.640 your wide receiver three is Cedric Wilson. We can talk 2:34:25.640 --> 2:34:28.199 about depth of the draft all day, but that means 2:34:28.280 --> 2:34:30.959 nothing until you show me what you drafted with that depth, 2:34:31.240 --> 2:34:33.600 and quite frankly, we can't talk about that until Friday 2:34:33.680 --> 2:34:37.040 or Saturday. Ceedee Lambs on the board at seventeen. You 2:34:37.200 --> 2:34:40.280 do it. You don't look back, You high five your friends, 2:34:40.680 --> 2:34:43.720 and you cherish. This world's going through a weird thing 2:34:43.879 --> 2:34:45.840 right now. But let's at least take a little bit 2:34:45.879 --> 2:34:48.520 of solace with that. We got Ceedee Lamb at seventeen. 2:34:48.959 --> 2:34:52.320 That is the play right here, guys, you have the choice. 2:34:52.640 --> 2:34:56.800 I will say the pick is in for Atlanta at sixteen. 2:34:57.440 --> 2:35:01.360 That the selection is still unbeknown to us, but the 2:35:01.480 --> 2:35:04.200 Cowboys are officially on the clock, so they are at 2:35:04.280 --> 2:35:06.880 least sifting through what's left on the board. It could 2:35:06.959 --> 2:35:10.480 either be calevon Chaise on Ceedee Lamb and a bevy 2:35:10.560 --> 2:35:13.200 of second tier corners. You've got every safety on the 2:35:13.240 --> 2:35:15.400 board here, as well. But the Cowboys are on the 2:35:15.440 --> 2:35:19.320 clock because Atlanta has made their selections. We're still waiting 2:35:20.000 --> 2:35:23.120 on Roger Goodell. Now, the Falcons could go with calevan 2:35:23.240 --> 2:35:25.800 Chase on here. They need some edge Rudger health, edge 2:35:25.840 --> 2:35:28.600 rusher help. Excuse me, they also need some corner help. 2:35:28.640 --> 2:35:31.960 We talked about aj Terrell, We talked about maybe a 2:35:32.040 --> 2:35:34.840 Christian Fulton in a spot like this, but there are 2:35:34.920 --> 2:35:37.119 plenty of those corners that are out there that could 2:35:37.240 --> 2:35:41.680 be at least in Atlanta and Atlanta's eyes a potential 2:35:41.760 --> 2:35:45.720 at Hick seventeen. Overall, this is where where we were worried. 2:35:45.840 --> 2:35:49.119 This is where we saw Atlanta, a team with very 2:35:49.200 --> 2:35:52.560 similar needs come up and potentially take this pick because 2:35:52.560 --> 2:35:56.760 we still await Roger Goodell. But right now things shaping 2:35:56.800 --> 2:35:59.720 out exactly how the Cowboys would want it to. Here's 2:35:59.800 --> 2:36:02.720 Rod your good out as well. Meanwhile, let's take a 2:36:02.760 --> 2:36:05.080 look at Mel's Best Available, brought to you by Low's Mel. 2:36:05.200 --> 2:36:08.199 What do we got? So you got Philadelphia and Minnesota, 2:36:08.280 --> 2:36:15.640 New Orleans all looking and we got faked out. So 2:36:15.800 --> 2:36:19.880 no no pick yet. So we got so I tell 2:36:19.920 --> 2:36:23.040 you no, no, no, no, no, We're gonna wait on 2:36:23.120 --> 2:36:26.600 good down. Okay, Katsne, just because you've got to step 2:36:26.760 --> 2:36:29.160 up on us doesn't mean I don't. I haven't done 2:36:29.160 --> 2:36:31.640 it all night. But the world's already tweeted this one out. 2:36:31.760 --> 2:36:34.480 This is the whole world's spoiling this one. I haven't 2:36:34.520 --> 2:36:36.520 been spoiling. I'm just staying away from it, trust me. 2:36:37.600 --> 2:36:40.960 But I do know this one because all the Cowboys 2:36:41.000 --> 2:36:43.200 beat riders are tweeting about it and stuff like that. 2:36:43.560 --> 2:36:50.200 Because you told me not to do it, I'll do 2:36:50.240 --> 2:36:54.480 it or no, no half measures. That's fair, that's fair. 2:36:54.640 --> 2:36:56.920 I don't want to give it away because we are 2:36:57.000 --> 2:37:01.080 still waiting on the commissioner. But the good thing, even 2:37:01.240 --> 2:37:05.520 with the cowboys tweeting about this, that excuse me, cowboys 2:37:05.560 --> 2:37:08.520 beat writers tweeting about this, that things could get nuts 2:37:08.560 --> 2:37:13.840 here in the next couple of seconds. Kat Yeah, I mean, look, 2:37:13.920 --> 2:37:16.120 this is things getting nuts every time. The Cowboys are 2:37:16.120 --> 2:37:20.280 almost the man see and Arthur blank in one of 2:37:20.360 --> 2:37:25.400 those ugly Falcons uniforms just made my whole night. Those 2:37:25.400 --> 2:37:29.800 are weird uniforms. That is some XFL stuff. No offense Falcons, 2:37:29.920 --> 2:37:34.920 sorry numbers really sixteen testtuff in the twenty twenty NFL 2:37:35.040 --> 2:37:43.720 traft the commissioner. Finally, Jarell defensive back A J. Terrell 2:37:43.959 --> 2:37:48.760 defensive back my job, and we've talked about it that 2:37:49.120 --> 2:37:51.480 it was not gonna be surprised. That's where the Falcons went. 2:37:51.600 --> 2:37:54.800 They wanted a corner badly, and when they couldn't trade 2:37:54.879 --> 2:37:57.560 up for CJ. Henderson, they went with DJ Terrell. And 2:37:57.680 --> 2:38:01.840 here we are pick seventeen. We got what Cede Lamb 2:38:01.920 --> 2:38:04.640 and Clevion Chase on both on the board. A more 2:38:04.959 --> 2:38:10.920 perfect draft exercise has never been created in my time. 2:38:11.120 --> 2:38:13.280 Maybe it happens in the fourth round when we don't 2:38:13.280 --> 2:38:16.760 really know what a board looks like. But right here 2:38:17.200 --> 2:38:20.720 you are looking at best player available versus the guy 2:38:20.840 --> 2:38:24.040 that you need. You need the pass rusher. You don't 2:38:24.080 --> 2:38:27.760 feel great about what's there after. Calebon Chason, a receiver 2:38:28.000 --> 2:38:30.680 that you never dreamed would be there, is sitting in 2:38:30.760 --> 2:38:35.680 your lap. I would venture a guess that basically everybody 2:38:35.760 --> 2:38:38.160 in the world has his higher grade on Cede Lamb 2:38:38.200 --> 2:38:41.000 than Calebon Jason. And that doesn't mean Calebon Chason is 2:38:41.040 --> 2:38:43.800 a bad player. You just never thought Cede Lamb would 2:38:43.800 --> 2:38:46.080 be here. And I just think what the Cowboys do 2:38:46.200 --> 2:38:48.520 in the next five minutes is going to speak volumes 2:38:48.600 --> 2:38:52.160 about how their draft process works. He's got a little 2:38:52.200 --> 2:38:56.320 influence here. He's saying this, he's an offensive minded guy. 2:38:56.760 --> 2:38:58.400 I'll tell you what I'd be doing. I know what 2:38:58.480 --> 2:39:01.200 I would be doing if I were him. And the 2:39:01.320 --> 2:39:04.000 thing is is we still haven't known exactly how this 2:39:04.160 --> 2:39:06.760 new coaching staff is going to handle a draft process 2:39:06.879 --> 2:39:09.800 like this. No better way of trying to figure out 2:39:09.879 --> 2:39:12.000 how a new coaching staff has an influence on a 2:39:12.080 --> 2:39:14.920 draft process than the situation that you have right in 2:39:15.080 --> 2:39:18.199 front of you. It's gonna be obvious best player available 2:39:18.680 --> 2:39:22.360 or the player UNIQ. Like David just said, it's there's 2:39:22.400 --> 2:39:25.400 no in between, there's no gray area here. It's Cede Lamb. 2:39:25.440 --> 2:39:27.320 I have Ceede Lamb as a top ten player on 2:39:27.400 --> 2:39:29.600 my board. I was that impressed by it. I think 2:39:29.680 --> 2:39:32.560 he would be the pick here if you're going place 2:39:32.720 --> 2:39:35.760 best player available, but by far edge rushers kind of 2:39:35.800 --> 2:39:39.040 the need you had. Now here's the potential that I 2:39:39.160 --> 2:39:40.960 kind of want to go back with. When you talk 2:39:40.959 --> 2:39:44.200 about the Cowboys offseason, they've done their due diligence and 2:39:44.280 --> 2:39:47.200 they've done their duty as a free agency market to 2:39:47.440 --> 2:39:50.720 address some of these issues. That way, if a best 2:39:50.760 --> 2:39:53.720 player available situation popped up at this pick, which it has. 2:39:54.240 --> 2:39:56.760 You have some edge rushers like an Olden Smith than 2:39:56.800 --> 2:39:59.280 a Randy Gregory who still need to be reinstated. You 2:39:59.360 --> 2:40:01.840 have addressed your defensive line, You've addressed some of the 2:40:02.040 --> 2:40:05.680 spots in your secondary. They've done enough at free agency 2:40:05.760 --> 2:40:08.200 to where they could go best player available here and 2:40:08.360 --> 2:40:11.280 still have some fun and be able to address needs 2:40:11.400 --> 2:40:14.520 later in the draft. I want to hedge my bet 2:40:14.800 --> 2:40:18.280 because I obviously I think calebon Chason is a good player. 2:40:18.280 --> 2:40:21.360 I think it's a good pick. But the pick should 2:40:21.360 --> 2:40:24.960 be Cede Lamb. It should be, I mean, absolutely should be. 2:40:25.680 --> 2:40:29.480 That's just it's some different day. You're walking your dog 2:40:29.560 --> 2:40:33.000 around the neighborhood, trying to get some exercise. Obviously, you're 2:40:33.000 --> 2:40:35.600 probably wearing a mask, you're staying away, and you find 2:40:35.640 --> 2:40:37.640 a twenty dollar bill on the ground. That's what this is. 2:40:37.760 --> 2:40:40.360 Ceedee Lamb is there for you. You take it. You 2:40:40.440 --> 2:40:42.440 will rue the day. If you do not. That is 2:40:42.480 --> 2:40:46.120 your pick. Go. I can't wait to see what they 2:40:46.200 --> 2:40:48.400 actually do. Because you do it. I just have this 2:40:48.560 --> 2:40:53.760 sneaking suspicion, sneaking suspicion that it's going to be Chason. Man, 2:40:55.200 --> 2:40:56.600 you kind of have to have that in the back 2:40:56.640 --> 2:40:59.040 of your head, you really do. And of course, no 2:40:59.160 --> 2:41:00.960 matter who the pick is, we're gonna have a toast 2:41:01.040 --> 2:41:02.840 that brought to you by a Miller light coming up 2:41:02.879 --> 2:41:05.600 here in just a couple of moments. Man. But man, 2:41:06.080 --> 2:41:09.320 this is this is exactly what you've wanted. You wanted 2:41:09.400 --> 2:41:12.760 CD Lamb there, you wanted an adge rusher there. Either way, 2:41:12.840 --> 2:41:15.080 you're walking out of pick seventeen with a player that's 2:41:15.080 --> 2:41:17.880 gonna change your football team. Now one's gonna make a 2:41:18.000 --> 2:41:21.640 lot of Cowboys fans happier than the other. But even then, 2:41:21.680 --> 2:41:24.640 you're still getting a great player. And what do we 2:41:24.680 --> 2:41:28.320 talk about from the outset? Chase On has a chance 2:41:28.400 --> 2:41:30.920 to be a big time pass rusher in this league 2:41:31.080 --> 2:41:34.760 and a guy that's ascending, who still still has some 2:41:34.840 --> 2:41:37.680 growing pains, but he is all the traits are there. 2:41:38.000 --> 2:41:40.560 There's a lot of ability. And I think when we 2:41:40.600 --> 2:41:42.640 started the night, if you told us that Chason was 2:41:42.680 --> 2:41:46.680 going to be available at seventeen, Okay, we'll take that. Yeah, 2:41:46.680 --> 2:41:48.360 it was Steve Lamb still big in the mix. That 2:41:48.440 --> 2:41:54.680 definitely throws a wrench in this whole equation. I have 2:41:54.840 --> 2:41:58.480 I said this on Twitter during the I have not 2:41:58.640 --> 2:42:01.039 been this nervous sight. I mean, this is our job. 2:42:01.160 --> 2:42:04.800 We do this every year. I typically stay, I stay 2:42:04.959 --> 2:42:07.440 pretty calm. I haven't been this geeked out by a 2:42:07.480 --> 2:42:10.400 Cowboys pick since it was Johnny Manzielle and back Martin. 2:42:11.840 --> 2:42:15.640 This is just ing. This is riveting stuff. That's what 2:42:15.760 --> 2:42:17.800 the middle will do to you, right there, being right 2:42:17.800 --> 2:42:19.640 in the middle. And I think this is probably the 2:42:19.720 --> 2:42:24.520 most polarizing situation since Zack Martin and Johnny manziel They 2:42:24.560 --> 2:42:27.160 went with the better player on the board there, even 2:42:27.200 --> 2:42:29.600 though you had a guy like Johnny manziel who was 2:42:29.640 --> 2:42:31.840 going to come in and at least at the time 2:42:31.959 --> 2:42:34.720 looked like a solid selection. It of course now in 2:42:34.840 --> 2:42:38.160 hindsight not and thank goodness, they went with a future 2:42:38.240 --> 2:42:40.480 pro bowler or excuse me, a future Hall of Famer 2:42:41.080 --> 2:42:43.400 at the moment, in Zack Martin. And so I think 2:42:43.520 --> 2:42:46.000 since that pick has been made, the Cowboys as an 2:42:46.080 --> 2:42:50.360 organization have not had a pick this polarizing to even 2:42:50.440 --> 2:42:56.320 have to deal with. Well, and I go ahead, Dave, No, 2:42:56.560 --> 2:42:59.200 I don't have anything smart to say. I'm just stressed 2:42:59.200 --> 2:43:01.240 the hell out. I just want to say this and 2:43:01.320 --> 2:43:04.400 I mentioned earlier Cedric Wilson is your wide receiver three? 2:43:04.520 --> 2:43:06.840 Right now? I know you just to sign just signed 2:43:06.840 --> 2:43:10.119 to Maury Cooper to a big deal. Michael Gallup only 2:43:10.160 --> 2:43:12.000 has you know what, two more years left or is 2:43:12.040 --> 2:43:14.080 it one left on his rookie deal? That's two years 2:43:14.080 --> 2:43:16.040 I believe. But if you look at that like a 2:43:16.080 --> 2:43:18.840 little bit of injuries with both Gallup and Cooper, let's 2:43:18.879 --> 2:43:22.040 just to me it's like there's not some like no 2:43:22.240 --> 2:43:25.280 brain or some clear thing like that. Oh, there's depth 2:43:25.320 --> 2:43:27.960 at wide receiver. We can get one later. Ceedee Lamb 2:43:28.480 --> 2:43:33.520 is higher granted player. He has dynamic he he does 2:43:33.640 --> 2:43:35.879 change your offense a little bit. He takes it up 2:43:37.400 --> 2:43:39.760 a lot. Do we need to do we need to 2:43:39.840 --> 2:43:41.520 talk about any of the players here? I mean, are 2:43:41.560 --> 2:43:45.039 we sure it's gonna be chased on or Lamb here? 2:43:45.120 --> 2:43:47.400 Do we need to talk about digs? Do we need 2:43:47.440 --> 2:43:50.000 to talk about McKinney. Do we the players to talk 2:43:50.040 --> 2:43:56.160 about here? Oh? Not? Guys to pick is in by 2:43:56.240 --> 2:43:59.000 the way, I hope not. Idele hasn't announced it, but 2:43:59.080 --> 2:44:02.120 the decision has been made. Jerry is being congratulated by 2:44:02.160 --> 2:44:07.120 his family in the Jerry Jones war room now here's 2:44:07.160 --> 2:44:10.760 the final moments. Here's the waiting Ceedy Lamb of Oklahoma 2:44:10.840 --> 2:44:15.680 wide receiver. Here's the pick. With the seventeenth pick in 2:44:15.760 --> 2:44:20.520 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select t 2:44:20.720 --> 2:44:31.440 d Lamb, wide receiver, Oklahoma. Ceedee Lamb, Dallas Cowboy, Holy Cow. 2:44:32.040 --> 2:44:36.880 Team forty Burger is alive and well, two under ninety 2:44:36.920 --> 2:44:40.240 six pounds. He's a four to five five athlete. For 2:44:40.360 --> 2:44:43.200 this guy, he reminds you of DeAndre Hopkins at the 2:44:43.240 --> 2:44:48.800 catch point. He is a somebody east, somebody catching me, sorry, dame, 2:44:50.240 --> 2:44:54.160 making our sponsors happy. Here toast a Team forty Burger. 2:44:54.480 --> 2:44:57.400 Let's go. I'll open one up to that as well, 2:44:57.520 --> 2:44:59.640 mister David Hellman. I've got one on my own, and 2:44:59.760 --> 2:45:03.080 I'm here's my boards, glasses, so I'm even gonna get 2:45:03.680 --> 2:45:06.720 a little fancy with this. But Ceedee Lamb is a 2:45:06.800 --> 2:45:09.600 Dallas Cowboy, the top receiver on my board. Dane said 2:45:09.640 --> 2:45:12.480 he was the top receiver on his board, Katie, I 2:45:12.520 --> 2:45:14.280 believe it's the top receiver on his board. And then 2:45:14.360 --> 2:45:18.440 same thing. Whatever, This is a pick that I don't 2:45:18.480 --> 2:45:21.800 think anybody expected. They didn't necessarily think he was gonna 2:45:21.840 --> 2:45:24.520 make it this far. But Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy. 2:45:24.560 --> 2:45:26.080 He's gonna have a star on the side of his helm. 2:45:27.520 --> 2:45:30.200 Lamb has been productive no better where he's been. I 2:45:30.280 --> 2:45:34.040 want to read you his stats from senior year at 2:45:34.120 --> 2:45:39.680 Foster High School in Texas. Catches two thousand two yards 2:45:40.080 --> 2:45:43.960 thirty three touchdowns. This guy has been productive everywhere he 2:45:44.000 --> 2:45:46.279 has gone. He goes to Oklahoma, he had three different 2:45:46.360 --> 2:45:49.920 starting quarterbacks out three different pretty good starting quarterbacks, Bay 2:45:49.959 --> 2:45:53.160 from Midfield, Jalen Hurts and Cala Murray. But this guy 2:45:53.240 --> 2:45:56.199 has been productive no matter what. Is an All American 2:45:56.600 --> 2:46:00.440 top receiver on my board. He has for a guy's 2:46:00.920 --> 2:46:04.240 decent decent size, six one two six two, two hundred pounds. 2:46:04.440 --> 2:46:07.880 He moves like a much smaller players foot quickness, the fluidity, 2:46:08.080 --> 2:46:10.320 and like I said, he is a beast at the point. 2:46:11.440 --> 2:46:15.440 While I personally, I mean I thought Claivion chas On 2:46:16.000 --> 2:46:19.400 would have been to pick. I'm very surprised that they 2:46:19.440 --> 2:46:22.080 passed on him. I'm not surprised they went with the 2:46:22.200 --> 2:46:25.320 offensive firepower because again they went best player available. They 2:46:25.360 --> 2:46:28.160 were a player that my boards ranked top ten. So 2:46:28.280 --> 2:46:30.800 I applaud the Cowboys for going with the best player 2:46:31.000 --> 2:46:34.680 and upgrading that offense. So I mean, if you're Dak Prescott, 2:46:34.920 --> 2:46:37.680 let's let's talk contract and get you signed long term 2:46:37.720 --> 2:46:43.400 because we got a weapon. You think you think those 2:46:43.440 --> 2:46:45.920 teams in New York, Washington and Philly all just said, 2:46:46.080 --> 2:46:51.120 ah damn, he a draft another corner various slay is 2:46:51.200 --> 2:46:55.600 not gonna be enough. Philadelphia is sitting there twenty one two. 2:46:56.160 --> 2:46:59.879 I mean, I'm sure they were. They're probably helping CDL 2:47:00.080 --> 2:47:04.320 would get to them. So, I man, it just got 2:47:04.400 --> 2:47:07.000 so fun. You're now going to play fast. I can't 2:47:07.160 --> 2:47:10.280 help but think year one of a new era with 2:47:10.400 --> 2:47:12.200 Mike McCarthy coming in that he wouldn't have had a 2:47:12.280 --> 2:47:16.760 little bit of influence right there. I just look, with 2:47:16.920 --> 2:47:19.000 all due respect to Caleb and Chason, who I think 2:47:19.000 --> 2:47:21.920 they all would have been fine with. This was the 2:47:22.040 --> 2:47:25.720 play that layded in your lap, and they they they 2:47:25.840 --> 2:47:28.200 didn't like. Did you did this happened to you a 2:47:28.280 --> 2:47:30.200 few years ago when you took Taco Because you're kind 2:47:30.200 --> 2:47:33.920 of overthinking about day two and day three, they overthought it. 2:47:34.040 --> 2:47:38.480 They'd overthink this best player right here? Oh oh good, Now, 2:47:38.560 --> 2:47:43.200 Cidrick Wilson is your wide receiver for guys. Yes, this 2:47:43.440 --> 2:47:46.000 is huge. I mean, it's like, again, thanks to Middle 2:47:46.000 --> 2:47:49.160 of Lake for this draft pick um, what's kind of 2:47:50.080 --> 2:47:53.959 if you're well, sorry, Katie, I just I know there's exciting. 2:47:54.400 --> 2:47:57.480 There's gonna be Cowboy fans that are confused or upset 2:47:57.720 --> 2:48:01.960 by the seeming no response to a defense that was 2:48:02.040 --> 2:48:05.480 mediocre last year, and that's totally valid. They gotta do 2:48:05.600 --> 2:48:10.200 something about their pass rush. They need cornerbacks. You can 2:48:10.320 --> 2:48:13.280 find cornerbacks and say season the later rounds of this draft. 2:48:13.920 --> 2:48:16.200 I don't feel great about where you're going to find 2:48:16.280 --> 2:48:19.480 that edge rusher. But if you gotta, if you gotta 2:48:19.480 --> 2:48:22.240 put Tyron Crawford and Alden Smith and Randy Gregory in 2:48:22.280 --> 2:48:24.440 there for a year and make it work. It might 2:48:24.520 --> 2:48:26.840 not be pretty, but we can fix that later and 2:48:26.959 --> 2:48:31.080 our offense will not miss a beat. I mean, hello, 2:48:31.240 --> 2:48:34.320 mister Clowney, would you like to sign a one year deal? Oh? 2:48:34.480 --> 2:48:37.480 You would? Okay, all right, let's not get carried away. 2:48:39.160 --> 2:48:42.320 Why not because the Cowboys don't do things like that, 2:48:42.520 --> 2:48:45.160 although they typically don't do things like draft CD LAMB either. 2:48:45.280 --> 2:48:50.199 So let's party. The economy of this league might change 2:48:50.480 --> 2:48:52.520 over the next year, and I think we should maybe 2:48:52.600 --> 2:48:54.960 keep that in mind. If Clowney thinks he's gonna get 2:48:55.040 --> 2:48:57.640 five and one hundred, that's a whole different discussion. I 2:48:57.760 --> 2:49:00.800 think it absolutely is. It's at least in the discussion 2:49:00.879 --> 2:49:03.560 now because defense is the priority. You got your offense 2:49:03.640 --> 2:49:07.199 taken care of, at least in wide receiver. It's wide open. 2:49:07.400 --> 2:49:09.680 Defense is the rest of the draft here. Now. I 2:49:09.760 --> 2:49:13.080 do want to address this really quickly. Dave Alp on 2:49:13.280 --> 2:49:15.800 Twitter just reminded me I sent out a tweet about 2:49:15.840 --> 2:49:17.640 three weeks ago, and this might be the dumbest thing 2:49:17.680 --> 2:49:20.359 I've ever done. Yeah, you did you. I know exactly 2:49:20.400 --> 2:49:24.800 what you did. Yeah, said. Somebody asked me what the 2:49:24.840 --> 2:49:28.480 possibility of Ceedee Lamb was at seventeen. I said, I 2:49:28.520 --> 2:49:30.960 would love that. But if Lamb is there at seventeen, 2:49:31.080 --> 2:49:33.560 and then I put in parentheses, if and the Cowboys 2:49:33.640 --> 2:49:36.080 take him, I said, I'll run from my apartment in 2:49:36.240 --> 2:49:39.400 Little Lamb to the Star and back. That's about fourteen 2:49:39.480 --> 2:49:42.840 miles in one sitting. I'm gonna have to do that 2:49:43.040 --> 2:49:45.240 sometime soon. I ran a five k this morning. I've 2:49:45.280 --> 2:49:48.480 got some work to do, but I'm gonna I'm gonna 2:49:48.480 --> 2:49:50.520 do it. I'm not doing it right now, or yeah, 2:49:50.560 --> 2:49:52.520 you can't do it now, you can't do it now. Yeah, 2:49:52.520 --> 2:49:54.200 I'm gonna end up doing it over the next couple 2:49:54.200 --> 2:49:56.000 of weeks, but hey, I've got to get some running 2:49:56.000 --> 2:49:58.320 in because I'm that happy. I could probably run to 2:49:58.360 --> 2:50:03.920 the Star and back. When the last time we since 2:50:04.240 --> 2:50:06.920 since we started doing this, where we entered a draft 2:50:07.040 --> 2:50:10.039 thinking the Cowboys were going to go in this direction 2:50:10.240 --> 2:50:12.920 and then they ultimately in the first round went a 2:50:13.080 --> 2:50:16.560 totally different direction, when because we kind of dot and 2:50:16.680 --> 2:50:19.160 band rash, you know, we kind of felt good about 2:50:19.800 --> 2:50:22.320 not good about Taco Charlton, but that they could go 2:50:22.440 --> 2:50:24.680 that direction. And what was it last time you felt 2:50:24.760 --> 2:50:28.360 this type of feeling with a Cowboys first round draft pick? 2:50:28.720 --> 2:50:31.640 Haven't been this blindsided by a Cowboys first round pick 2:50:31.760 --> 2:50:36.160 since they traded back for Travis Frederick in twenty thirteen. Yeah, 2:50:36.560 --> 2:50:39.440 and we weren't even doing the show back then. We 2:50:39.640 --> 2:50:42.840 knew we knew they In fourteen, it was Andy Barr, 2:50:43.080 --> 2:50:46.199 Zach Martin, and Ryan Shazier with a little Johnny Manzel thrown. 2:50:46.280 --> 2:50:49.520 In fifteen, it was Byron Jones all the way. Sixteen, 2:50:49.560 --> 2:50:53.160 it was zeke Er Ramsey. Seventeen it was Best pass 2:50:53.280 --> 2:50:57.480 rush are available, which was Taco eighteen was lve all 2:50:57.520 --> 2:50:59.440 the way, and then nineteen they didn't even have one. 2:50:59.800 --> 2:51:02.680 I I just we knew that, we knew that they 2:51:02.920 --> 2:51:05.360 had the capability of doing this because they did it 2:51:05.440 --> 2:51:08.680 with Connor McGovern last year. But to do it, but 2:51:08.800 --> 2:51:11.800 to do it at the top of the draft, especially 2:51:11.879 --> 2:51:14.240 when the guy that you've kind of had circled since 2:51:14.480 --> 2:51:19.160 early March is sitting there for you, It's really impressive. 2:51:19.200 --> 2:51:21.760 And that's the way that good drafting is supposed to go. 2:51:22.480 --> 2:51:24.280 Like I said, you're not going to find a bigger 2:51:24.360 --> 2:51:27.040 Caleb and Jason Fan than me. But it was clear 2:51:27.120 --> 2:51:29.320 and obvious that Ceedee Lamb was the better option. And 2:51:29.480 --> 2:51:32.520 now again for anybody that's unhappy about the pick, or 2:51:32.600 --> 2:51:35.720 for anybody that wanted defense, now we don't have to 2:51:35.760 --> 2:51:38.320 worry about this receiver conversation. We don't have to look 2:51:38.400 --> 2:51:42.880 for our Devin Duvernet or our kJ Hammler or our Bowden. 2:51:43.360 --> 2:51:45.320 You can look at defense the whole rest of the way, 2:51:45.360 --> 2:51:49.040 because short of maybe trying to grab an offensive lineman, 2:51:50.000 --> 2:51:51.840 all your other needs are on defense. And I think 2:51:51.879 --> 2:51:54.400 that's where the Cowboys will be looking from here on out. 2:51:54.879 --> 2:51:57.920 I think that can get ready. Sorry, yeah, I was 2:51:57.959 --> 2:51:59.879 just gonna say that set you up for success because 2:52:00.080 --> 2:52:02.360 there is some depth in this draft and key areas 2:52:02.400 --> 2:52:04.320 of need. You've got some corners a little bit later on, 2:52:04.400 --> 2:52:07.160 you've got safeties like it's Terrell Burgess of Utah. You 2:52:07.480 --> 2:52:09.840 have your wide receiver out of the way, like Dave said, 2:52:10.120 --> 2:52:12.760 that was gonna be a third, fourth, fifth round sweet spot. 2:52:13.120 --> 2:52:16.560 Now you can at least shift your mindset and shift 2:52:16.600 --> 2:52:19.520 your thinking a little bit to start looking at maybe 2:52:19.560 --> 2:52:21.280 an edge rusher in the middle of this draft, and 2:52:21.600 --> 2:52:25.039 maybe a corner or a safety early at least round two, 2:52:25.160 --> 2:52:27.680 round three, if you're trying to get a couple more picks. 2:52:27.760 --> 2:52:30.840 But man, this is uh. It's definitely like you said, 2:52:30.920 --> 2:52:33.560 it's blindsiding. But I think it's also the smart pick 2:52:33.600 --> 2:52:35.440 because it does set you up for the rest of 2:52:35.480 --> 2:52:38.039 the draft in a good way. Here is the eighteenth 2:52:38.120 --> 2:52:43.640 pick from Roger Goodell for Miami. With the eighteenth pick 2:52:44.400 --> 2:52:49.200 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select 2:52:49.760 --> 2:52:57.960 Boston Jackson tackle USC. Austin Jackson tackle from USC goes 2:52:58.000 --> 2:53:00.560 off the board at eighteen. There's the tackle that Dane 2:53:00.680 --> 2:53:02.720 was talking about it a little bit earlier for Miami. 2:53:02.800 --> 2:53:04.680 I'm sure we still want to continue talking about this 2:53:04.800 --> 2:53:07.120 CD Lamp pick here in just a little bit. But 2:53:07.440 --> 2:53:09.560 the Dolphins do get their tackle. You said it. If 2:53:09.560 --> 2:53:11.720 they didn't get it at five Dame, that at least 2:53:11.760 --> 2:53:13.480 eighteen was the spot they were gonna look at it for. 2:53:14.520 --> 2:53:16.480 That's the thing. If you're going to draft two, you 2:53:16.600 --> 2:53:18.440 need to protect him. You need to give more help 2:53:18.480 --> 2:53:21.320 in Austin Jackson has all the talent to do that. 2:53:22.280 --> 2:53:24.920 Now there's gonna be some learning curves. He's literally the 2:53:25.000 --> 2:53:27.959 youngest player in this draft, so they're the growing pains 2:53:28.000 --> 2:53:31.320 are gonna be there. But guys that move like this, 2:53:31.400 --> 2:53:34.039 they don't last very long in the draft. Has high, 2:53:34.120 --> 2:53:37.840 high ability and potential in this league, but it's gonna 2:53:37.840 --> 2:53:40.200 take a little bit of time for him. So not 2:53:40.320 --> 2:53:43.400 surprised Miami went this direction, but now they have one 2:53:43.440 --> 2:53:46.960 more first round pick. Continue that facelift on offense, go 2:53:47.120 --> 2:53:50.440 get that running back and helped your quarterback. So it's 2:53:51.040 --> 2:53:53.199 I could bring it back to the CD Lamb conversation 2:53:53.240 --> 2:53:56.640 a little bit. You have to look at Philadelphia sitting 2:53:56.680 --> 2:53:58.960 there at twenty one. How much do you think they 2:53:59.040 --> 2:54:03.840 consider trading. Oh, they're they're sick. They have to be 2:54:03.920 --> 2:54:07.640 absolutely sick. Yeah, because you have to think they considered 2:54:07.800 --> 2:54:11.200 moving up to maybe sixteen to try and make that 2:54:11.360 --> 2:54:14.080 move once CD Lamb started falling a little bit. They 2:54:14.200 --> 2:54:16.920 didn't do it. And I think they're okay with Justin Jefferson, 2:54:17.040 --> 2:54:19.800 but I don't you know it, not only do you 2:54:19.959 --> 2:54:23.240 get Cede Lamb, you prevent the Cowboys from getting him 2:54:23.480 --> 2:54:26.880 with a trade up opportunity. So there's another interesting wrinkle 2:54:26.959 --> 2:54:30.200 with the whole selection. You know, I'm an ideas man. 2:54:30.280 --> 2:54:32.520 What do you think about spending some of that stimulus 2:54:32.640 --> 2:54:35.640 chick on the number eighty eight Cede Lamb? Jersey? Oh, 2:54:37.680 --> 2:54:39.800 they can't give eighty eight to CD because they're gonna 2:54:39.800 --> 2:54:42.960 sign Daz after the draft, aren't they. Oh, I'll start 2:54:43.040 --> 2:54:46.320 that here. Oh you know where you were. Don't start 2:54:46.400 --> 2:54:50.080 that here. I'm kidding. I don't know, man, I mean, 2:54:50.200 --> 2:54:53.080 I love the eighty eight legacy. I don't know. I 2:54:53.160 --> 2:54:56.360 feel like I feel like Dez is too recent. I'd 2:54:56.480 --> 2:54:59.280 rather let him forge his own path. That's just me, 2:54:59.680 --> 2:55:03.560 that's to me. Maybe they feel differently. He can't wear 2:55:03.600 --> 2:55:06.160 a number two, So that's unfortunate because he did look 2:55:06.200 --> 2:55:08.760 good in a number two uniform during his time at Alabama. 2:55:08.959 --> 2:55:11.359 We're spitball in here. I mean, what would be available 2:55:11.440 --> 2:55:14.000 for Cede Lamb? What numbers? I mean, you gotta wear 2:55:14.240 --> 2:55:17.840 either you gotta wear between what eleven or ten and 2:55:18.040 --> 2:55:22.520 nineteen or an eighties number and would look good. He 2:55:22.640 --> 2:55:27.640 could have pen I believe eleven is open, obviously, you 2:55:27.720 --> 2:55:34.560 can't have twelve, thirteen is taken, fourteen is open, Fifteen 2:55:34.600 --> 2:55:38.320 I believe is open. Looks weird. I think they need 2:55:38.360 --> 2:55:40.840 to go back to just all being eighties numbers. No, stop, 2:55:40.920 --> 2:55:43.520 it don't be a Lambs better aspect. When the gold 2:55:43.600 --> 2:55:46.520 the golden years of the NFL, let the kids have fun. 2:55:47.200 --> 2:55:50.440 What are the Raiders going to do? They picked earlier. 2:55:50.480 --> 2:55:54.560 They took Henry Ruggs of Alabama and possibly a pick 2:55:54.640 --> 2:55:57.680 that allowed Ceedee Lamb to kind of help fault to 2:55:57.760 --> 2:56:01.000 the Cowboys. Cornerback is what I would kind of had 2:56:01.040 --> 2:56:02.760 on my mind there. I thought the Raiders might be 2:56:02.920 --> 2:56:05.760 thinking a little bit of cornerback action. What are you 2:56:05.760 --> 2:56:08.240 guys thinking about for the Raiders? I think corner would 2:56:08.240 --> 2:56:11.600 be a smart play here. They wanted aj Terrell. I 2:56:11.720 --> 2:56:15.600 think that's the exact direction they wanted to go. Well, 2:56:15.840 --> 2:56:18.400 especially when you look at their cornerback pep chart, it's 2:56:18.440 --> 2:56:21.480 one of their taught needs. Uh and that was compounded 2:56:21.520 --> 2:56:25.800 by Eli Apple. Uh not that deal not going through. 2:56:26.040 --> 2:56:28.280 So there's a lot that needs to happen at that 2:56:28.360 --> 2:56:32.640 cornerback pep chart. Would they go Trevon Diggs here? Possibly? 2:56:33.320 --> 2:56:35.440 Is that a direction they could go? Is that next 2:56:35.520 --> 2:56:38.360 corner off the board? Uh? You know what we're talking about? 2:56:38.400 --> 2:56:46.120 Any other corners this early? I mean there, I'm a 2:56:46.240 --> 2:56:51.200 Glad fan. I'm a Glad but I don't know, Um, 2:56:52.000 --> 2:56:57.200 Trevon Diggs, you know, I don't know what Mayock necessarily 2:56:57.320 --> 2:57:01.280 and Gruden would value from a defensive backstand point. Um, 2:57:02.600 --> 2:57:06.800 they did draft Trayvon Mullins that last year. The years 2:57:06.800 --> 2:57:10.560 are running second round last year. Yeah, um, but definitely 2:57:10.640 --> 2:57:13.200 needs some help. All we said, we saw them, you know, 2:57:13.400 --> 2:57:15.440 go up and get to Gary Unconley a couple of 2:57:15.480 --> 2:57:18.119 years ago, kind of get a little aggressive on a guy, 2:57:18.360 --> 2:57:20.160 maybe not aggressive, but a guy who had some question 2:57:20.280 --> 2:57:24.160 marks coming out of Ohio State. So I think cornerback 2:57:24.200 --> 2:57:25.720 would make a lot of sense. It maybe something from 2:57:25.720 --> 2:57:31.200 the defensive side of the ball. I think defense whenever 2:57:31.760 --> 2:57:33.400 you still have Chase on on the board, but you 2:57:33.440 --> 2:57:37.040 don't necessarily need that. I mean you could potentially if 2:57:37.040 --> 2:57:39.680 you really thought he need you always need pass rushers. Yeah, 2:57:39.760 --> 2:57:41.640 you could. You could go in that direction if you 2:57:41.680 --> 2:57:44.120 really wanted to. But the fact that he's still available. 2:57:44.280 --> 2:57:51.160 And then twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select 2:57:52.440 --> 2:57:59.600 Paymon Arnett defensive back Ohio State paymen our Neett defensive 2:57:59.640 --> 2:58:08.000 back from Ohio State. That was a curveball because that's 2:58:08.040 --> 2:58:11.560 the Cleveland Farrell. Yep, Jeff Gladney. And then all of 2:58:11.640 --> 2:58:14.720 a sudden, here's Damon Arnette. Surprise, it's another Ohio State guy. 2:58:16.320 --> 2:58:19.960 Oh and that is the Cleveland Farrell of this draft 2:58:20.040 --> 2:58:23.520 so far. So you know, no surprise matters doing it again. Look, 2:58:23.600 --> 2:58:26.960 Damon Arnette is a talented guy. If you're okay with 2:58:27.080 --> 2:58:29.720 the character. That was the big hang up the lot 2:58:29.720 --> 2:58:32.879 of team. Uh. He rubbed some teams the wrong way 2:58:33.200 --> 2:58:36.360 and they were afraid to trust him. And so this 2:58:36.560 --> 2:58:39.680 is a really talented guy who came back for a 2:58:39.760 --> 2:58:41.879 senior year. He wanted to come out after his junior year. 2:58:42.160 --> 2:58:44.400 They convinced him to come back, and he really had 2:58:44.440 --> 2:58:46.600 a great turnaround. I think he's one of the best 2:58:46.640 --> 2:58:49.959 tackling corps in this class. He could play inside, play outside. 2:58:50.520 --> 2:58:53.680 He is a really talented dude who talent wise, I 2:58:54.320 --> 2:58:57.200 understand this pick just surprised. I never would have guess 2:58:57.280 --> 2:59:01.720 would have been a top twenty draft. That is a surprise. 2:59:02.959 --> 2:59:05.960 He talked about a late bloomer. He's the definition of 2:59:06.080 --> 2:59:08.240 that pick. I mean, he turned twenty three this past 2:59:08.320 --> 2:59:10.800 season and then or he was all he was twenty 2:59:10.840 --> 2:59:12.600 three of all of this past season. Like you said, 2:59:12.760 --> 2:59:15.320 he's got the versatility to play outside or inside. But 2:59:15.480 --> 2:59:17.440 this is a guy who didn't really see a ton 2:59:17.520 --> 2:59:19.879 of playing time all the way up until twenty nineteen 2:59:20.040 --> 2:59:23.640 because sometimes he just kind of stumbles around and he 2:59:23.720 --> 2:59:26.080 gets beat by some of those big ten wide receivers. 2:59:26.800 --> 2:59:28.920 He was in the mid forties on my board. I'm 2:59:28.959 --> 2:59:31.800 interested to see where he was at on y'all's board. 2:59:31.920 --> 2:59:33.800 But the fact that he was all the way up 2:59:33.840 --> 2:59:37.160 at the pick or pick nineteen, I mean, that's like 2:59:37.280 --> 2:59:39.080 you said, the Colin Farrell of this one, this is 2:59:39.120 --> 2:59:42.760 just crazy. Probably in that announcement, I did actually have 2:59:42.840 --> 2:59:45.920 the audio in my ears. Uh. The commissioner also announced 2:59:45.959 --> 2:59:50.320 that the twenty twenty two draft would be in Las Vegas. Okay. 2:59:52.640 --> 2:59:56.560 Plans for twenty twenty one draft in Cleveland. Oh, that's 2:59:56.560 --> 2:59:59.040 already been announced. It's in Cleveland, Okay, so they'll get 2:59:59.080 --> 3:00:02.840 it in twenty tw two. Yeah, that was a part 3:00:02.879 --> 3:00:05.960 of that announcement as well. That brings us Jacksonville another 3:00:06.680 --> 3:00:09.720 kind of wildcard team today who had multiple picks in 3:00:09.760 --> 3:00:12.320 the first round. C J. Henderson with her first pick, 3:00:14.280 --> 3:00:16.920 I thought why, I thought help on the offensive side 3:00:16.920 --> 3:00:19.080 of the ball as something they might need to go 3:00:19.240 --> 3:00:24.520 with after getting CJ. Henderson. So, um, just a team 3:00:24.760 --> 3:00:29.880 just doesn't have a lot of sexy osive weapons. I'm 3:00:29.920 --> 3:00:32.119 not a I'm not a scout. I don't ever put 3:00:32.160 --> 3:00:35.800 together aboard the way that y'all do. But I think, 3:00:35.840 --> 3:00:39.279 and you know, Dan is totally right about the character concerns. 3:00:39.360 --> 3:00:43.160 But I like Damon our Nett's tape just as much, 3:00:43.280 --> 3:00:48.480 if not better than any cornerback after like CJ. Henderson, honestly, 3:00:48.879 --> 3:00:53.199 like I think he stacks up with Fulton, Diggs, Glad Need, 3:00:53.280 --> 3:00:56.280 all those guys. Like I'm pretty surprised he went this early, 3:00:56.480 --> 3:01:01.280 but I like what I watched a lot. He's a 3:01:01.320 --> 3:01:03.760 good corner. Don't get me wrong, and I'm not necessarily 3:01:03.879 --> 3:01:06.720 knocking the guy for being a late bloomer, but I 3:01:06.760 --> 3:01:09.080 think in terms of prospects, I would have much rather 3:01:09.640 --> 3:01:13.520 have gone with a Christian Fulton and Jeff Gladney, even 3:01:13.600 --> 3:01:17.480 a Trayvon Diggs at that point. I don't think necessarily 3:01:17.600 --> 3:01:21.680 that at least Arnette was even in the conversation. But 3:01:22.120 --> 3:01:24.200 you never know. But I am intrigued as to what 3:01:24.400 --> 3:01:27.440 Jacksonville is going to do here, Kat, because you mentioned 3:01:27.480 --> 3:01:30.480 it a little bit earlier. They addressed the cornerback need 3:01:30.520 --> 3:01:34.800 with C. J. Henderson, they could potentially go with a linebacker. 3:01:34.959 --> 3:01:37.320 Here you have Kenneth Murray that's still on the board. 3:01:37.320 --> 3:01:40.320 I know that's a name that, at least beforehand, was 3:01:40.400 --> 3:01:43.119 the other Oklahoma Sooner that the Cowboys had been kind 3:01:43.120 --> 3:01:46.840 of rumored around, but more so likely than what they 3:01:46.920 --> 3:01:49.760 ended up getting with c CD Lamb. But I think 3:01:49.840 --> 3:01:53.520 Treyvon Diggs, the fact that he didn't go nineteen to 3:01:53.560 --> 3:01:55.640 the Raiders kind of opens up some possibilities in the 3:01:55.720 --> 3:01:59.520 early twenties for guys well. I think I say with 3:02:00.040 --> 3:02:04.400 Xinville here at twenty, I mean, Monakin Gockway is probably 3:02:04.440 --> 3:02:08.160 not back. Uh now, whether he gets he's probably not 3:02:08.200 --> 3:02:12.080 coun be traded at this point during the draft. But uh, 3:02:12.480 --> 3:02:14.320 you know you drafted Josh Allen in the first round 3:02:14.400 --> 3:02:18.080 last year, I draft another SEC pass structure with with 3:02:18.280 --> 3:02:20.720 chas On still on the board here, Uh, he would 3:02:20.760 --> 3:02:23.040 take over for in Gockway, and you know you've got 3:02:23.120 --> 3:02:25.880 the makings of a pretty good pass rush duo with 3:02:26.000 --> 3:02:29.879 Allen and Chaseaw. Yeah, that's what I was about to say, Dan, 3:02:30.000 --> 3:02:35.520 considering that Ingaqua was you know Katam Twitter war with Yeah, 3:02:35.600 --> 3:02:38.560 it was what the Pians some the other day. It's like, okay, 3:02:39.879 --> 3:02:42.120 a little crazy there. So Chasa makes a lot of 3:02:42.200 --> 3:02:45.160 sense as well. But I do think wide receiver as 3:02:45.200 --> 3:02:47.080 an area they will have to attack at some point 3:02:47.120 --> 3:02:49.720 the draft is it's not, you know, a very pretty 3:02:49.720 --> 3:02:52.520 wide receiver corps for them. But yeah, I think I 3:02:52.600 --> 3:02:55.680 think Chase that would make sense as well. Well, let's 3:02:55.680 --> 3:02:57.120 go ahead and run it down while we got a 3:02:57.200 --> 3:03:01.680 quick moment. The second ten pick, starting with the Browns 3:03:02.120 --> 3:03:04.960 Jedrick Wills out of Alabama, followed by McKay Peckton, a 3:03:04.959 --> 3:03:07.680 couple of back to back offensive tackles Henry Rubs. The 3:03:07.720 --> 3:03:10.360 third the first wide receiver off the board. He goes 3:03:10.440 --> 3:03:14.480 to the Las Vegas Raiders out of Alabama. You've got 3:03:14.520 --> 3:03:17.560 Tristan Wirfs, another offensive tackle, three and four picks which 3:03:17.879 --> 3:03:21.119 ultimately set up this success for the Cowboys in getting 3:03:21.480 --> 3:03:24.280 Cede Lamb. Jerry Judy went off the board fifteen to 3:03:24.360 --> 3:03:27.480 the Broncos, right after Javon Kinlaw. Gotta throw Javon Kinlaw 3:03:27.520 --> 3:03:29.360 in there because that was a crucial pick as well. 3:03:29.600 --> 3:03:32.920 A J. Terrell goes to the Falcons at sixteen. Cede 3:03:33.080 --> 3:03:36.080 Lamb a Dallas Cowboy at seventeen. It's still music to 3:03:36.160 --> 3:03:38.880 the years, I will tell you that. And then Austin Jackson, 3:03:39.640 --> 3:03:43.400 offensive tackle out of USC He goes eighteen to the Dolphins. Nineteen. 3:03:43.440 --> 3:03:47.680 The Raiders take Damon Arnett, a cornerback out of Ohio State. 3:03:47.760 --> 3:03:50.879 So Jacksonville on the clock, now, followed by the Eagles, 3:03:50.920 --> 3:03:55.200 the Vikings, Patriots, and Saints the next five picks overall, 3:03:55.280 --> 3:03:59.920 So Jaguars here defensive line, I mean Calevan Jason. Still 3:04:00.120 --> 3:04:02.520 there is there a potential that he could even be 3:04:02.600 --> 3:04:08.120 in the conversation here, I think to me makes so 3:04:08.280 --> 3:04:12.280 much sense. Um, how far I don't name I want 3:04:12.280 --> 3:04:15.120 to do about not necessarily for just Jacksonville as well. Dan, 3:04:15.240 --> 3:04:17.959 what about a guy like Aja Pedessa, who from the beginning, 3:04:18.160 --> 3:04:20.879 you know, was talked about as an edge guy, who 3:04:20.920 --> 3:04:22.880 could you know, maybe be a top twenty type guy 3:04:23.040 --> 3:04:25.040 didn't test grate at the combine, not that I was 3:04:25.120 --> 3:04:27.640 expecting him to test grate at the combine. And how 3:04:27.720 --> 3:04:30.600 far do you see a guy like him? Follam, I 3:04:30.720 --> 3:04:32.720 think that we could see him. You know, the Patriots 3:04:32.760 --> 3:04:34.800 of twenty three. Uh, you know one of these other 3:04:34.879 --> 3:04:37.959 teams in the back round, one who aren't overly concerned 3:04:38.000 --> 3:04:40.480 with the five or four or forty year a dash Um. 3:04:40.680 --> 3:04:44.520 I'm interested in some of these tackles too. Jackson Well, 3:04:44.560 --> 3:04:47.440 I know, maybe Jacksonville they've got a sneaky need a tackle, 3:04:48.320 --> 3:04:51.080 especially when you consider that they want to move deal 3:04:51.840 --> 3:04:55.760 Juwan Taylor inside or Cam Robinson inside. They could go 3:04:55.879 --> 3:04:59.320 with in Edford Cleveland here, that's possible if they want 3:04:59.360 --> 3:05:03.080 to go that direct Uh. Jacksonville, like we've said before, 3:05:03.160 --> 3:05:06.080 they have so many needs. They can go to a 3:05:06.120 --> 3:05:08.000 lot of different directions. Here, they already got the corner. 3:05:08.040 --> 3:05:11.000 Maybe they go offense here. Uh, they could go uh 3:05:11.320 --> 3:05:15.880 with coug receiver Justin Jefferson snipe him right before the 3:05:16.000 --> 3:05:21.039 Eagles are up. Jacksonville really a wild card here. Pick 3:05:21.240 --> 3:05:28.600 is in by the way, safety could be something that 3:05:28.640 --> 3:05:31.439 would consider if they're still trying to kind of rebuild 3:05:31.480 --> 3:05:34.000 the back end of their defense. But I love what 3:05:34.080 --> 3:05:37.640 you mentioned earlier, like Washington with Chase Young and Montes Sweat, 3:05:38.080 --> 3:05:40.240 you have Josh Allen their first round pick you took 3:05:40.320 --> 3:05:42.960 last year man another first round pick on edge and 3:05:43.080 --> 3:05:45.520 really kind of build that part of your team that 3:05:45.560 --> 3:05:50.720 would be, you know, pretty sexy tandem right there, especially 3:05:51.280 --> 3:05:58.080 that you're likely t commissioner. Well, there you see Caleb 3:05:58.959 --> 3:06:01.440 Calevan and Shasaw Lsu. We were a little bit late 3:06:01.480 --> 3:06:03.800 getting to the pick, but he is the selection for 3:06:03.879 --> 3:06:08.000 the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick twenty, edge rusher from Lsu. 3:06:08.320 --> 3:06:10.840 He was off the board, or he was on the 3:06:10.879 --> 3:06:13.160 board longer than we thought. We were still kind of 3:06:13.200 --> 3:06:14.720 skeptical on whether or not he was gonna make it 3:06:14.800 --> 3:06:17.360 to seventeen for the Cowboys. Not only didn't make it 3:06:17.440 --> 3:06:19.960 to seventeen, but he made it past the top twenty 3:06:20.080 --> 3:06:23.959 and now lands at twenty. Jason still a really good player. 3:06:24.000 --> 3:06:26.800 We talked about him in depth because this is kind 3:06:26.840 --> 3:06:29.040 of the guy that at least we thought going into 3:06:29.080 --> 3:06:32.000 this draft was going to be a cowboy. He stinks. 3:06:32.000 --> 3:06:35.080 I'm glad Dallas ten draft him. He's done. No he 3:06:35.320 --> 3:06:40.040 like I mentioned this before, how Josh Allen last year 3:06:40.040 --> 3:06:43.160 in the first round go back to the SEC passed 3:06:43.240 --> 3:06:47.000 rusher well And yeah, Jason, who you know we talked 3:06:47.160 --> 3:06:50.640 up since the beginning as an ascending player who is 3:06:51.120 --> 3:06:54.320 still discovery how good he can be. Yeah, athletticism off 3:06:54.400 --> 3:06:57.880 the edge, he can convert a speed power and he 3:06:58.040 --> 3:07:03.600 can drop in space. So with Ynckway likely done in Jacksonville, 3:07:04.000 --> 3:07:07.640 h they've got Chase on Josh Allen. That's the making 3:07:07.720 --> 3:07:12.320 of a pretty good Again, hat prushure do and think 3:07:12.360 --> 3:07:15.440 about the fact you have Josh Allen, you and so okay, 3:07:15.560 --> 3:07:18.200 Josh Allen wasn't supposed to fall to them. And I 3:07:18.280 --> 3:07:21.760 think most people would be surprised that Calevan Chason is 3:07:21.760 --> 3:07:23.840 still sitting here at pick twenty. We've thought he might 3:07:23.920 --> 3:07:27.600 not last to seventeen. And you can trade it in 3:07:27.680 --> 3:07:30.320 Gockway a pick, you know, assuming somebody wants to pay 3:07:30.400 --> 3:07:33.600 for him and get yourself some more resources. I did 3:07:33.680 --> 3:07:41.400 what they're doing a lot and then this is good. No, No, 3:07:41.520 --> 3:07:43.400 you go ahead. I was just gonna say, moving on 3:07:43.520 --> 3:07:46.680 to pick twenty one, now you've got Philadelphia on the board, 3:07:46.720 --> 3:07:50.160 and they've got to be just melting down with the 3:07:50.280 --> 3:07:53.879 fact that Ceedee Lamb not only made it to seventeen 3:07:53.959 --> 3:07:55.760 but is now going to be played twice a year 3:07:56.200 --> 3:08:00.160 by the Eagles because of the Cowboys selection. But is 3:08:00.200 --> 3:08:03.320 wide receiver a need enough for them to take a 3:08:03.360 --> 3:08:05.720 guy like a Denzel Mims or even a Jalen Raker, 3:08:05.760 --> 3:08:07.240 A couple of big twelve guys that are still on 3:08:07.280 --> 3:08:12.960 the board. I received it. You gotta look at Justin Jefferson, right, 3:08:13.120 --> 3:08:15.960 I mean Jefferson too. That's a good point. Yeah. I 3:08:16.080 --> 3:08:19.880 love that h did t team like he'd be the 3:08:20.720 --> 3:08:24.680 perfect target for Carson Wentz and a receiving cord that 3:08:24.760 --> 3:08:28.199 just they were missing that reliable guy. I mean Justin Jefferson. 3:08:28.400 --> 3:08:31.840 He is exactly that. He's that reliable target that can 3:08:32.440 --> 3:08:34.000 mostly I mean, you want him in a slot, but 3:08:34.040 --> 3:08:35.800 he can also play outside if you need him move. 3:08:36.520 --> 3:08:38.160 I just think it's too much of a fit for 3:08:38.280 --> 3:08:41.720 with Juin Jefferson at twenty one. I agree with you, Dan, 3:08:41.840 --> 3:08:43.400 But the other thing I would say just so we're 3:08:43.440 --> 3:08:45.400 throwing out all options. I love what they've done in 3:08:45.440 --> 3:08:48.840 the off season training for Darius Slay. I love adding 3:08:49.200 --> 3:08:52.840 Javon Hargrain, who I know you love densive tackle to 3:08:52.920 --> 3:08:56.320 kind of add to their defensive line. Middle linebackers an 3:08:56.360 --> 3:08:58.720 area that they can maybe use some help. Kenneth Burry, 3:08:59.160 --> 3:09:01.800 Patrick Queen, a couple of names who were still on 3:09:01.959 --> 3:09:04.680 the board haven't been touched tonight. Really, no linebackers have 3:09:04.800 --> 3:09:09.040 been touched tonight. Za Zaa Simmons. That's an interesting area 3:09:09.120 --> 3:09:12.160 as well. Don't put my son Justin in Philly. Don't 3:09:12.200 --> 3:09:18.240 do it. Don't do it. Pick somebody else. No offense, Well, 3:09:18.280 --> 3:09:20.480 I would hate to see. I think the number one 3:09:20.520 --> 3:09:22.240 guy I would hate to see in Philadelphia would be 3:09:22.320 --> 3:09:25.160 probably Jalen Raiger. I'm not gonna lie because I loved 3:09:25.160 --> 3:09:28.560 didn't Zell Mimms, and I've said before, as a kid 3:09:28.600 --> 3:09:30.560 who grew up in Waco, I've I've kept an eye 3:09:30.600 --> 3:09:33.080 on the Baylor program and Didn't Zell Ms and I 3:09:33.160 --> 3:09:35.280 love them. But I think the hardest guy to stop, 3:09:35.520 --> 3:09:39.560 at least for the Cowboys sake, would probably be Jalen Raiger. 3:09:39.560 --> 3:09:41.240 You're gonna take the top off of a defense and 3:09:41.360 --> 3:09:43.560 expect Jordan Lewis to go into the slot and cover 3:09:43.640 --> 3:09:45.920 them in the corner spot. I don't think that's gonna happen, 3:09:46.240 --> 3:09:48.680 at least easily. I think Jaylen Raiger would probably be 3:09:48.720 --> 3:09:54.480 the scariest pick here. I mean, I'll say that during 3:09:54.560 --> 3:09:58.200 their their late season run last year, they were just 3:09:58.280 --> 3:10:02.560 having so many problems getting anyone open. So anyone in 3:10:02.680 --> 3:10:05.160 general who can go get open and help Carson wentz 3:10:05.240 --> 3:10:08.280 out because that was just just kind of a bad 3:10:08.360 --> 3:10:10.920 offense really, you know, at the back half of last year, 3:10:11.000 --> 3:10:12.480 Miles Sanders was the only we got to do with 3:10:12.480 --> 3:10:14.760 the dirty work. So justin Jefferson makes sense. But we've 3:10:14.760 --> 3:10:18.080 talked about this wide receiver class so many times. Stacking 3:10:18.120 --> 3:10:19.760 it was going to be a difficult thing to do. 3:10:20.600 --> 3:10:23.199 Cowboys number one wide receiver might have been Cede Lamb. 3:10:23.720 --> 3:10:26.080 It was maybe the number two or number three or 3:10:26.120 --> 3:10:28.680 four wide receiver for other teams. So but I like 3:10:28.760 --> 3:10:31.920 that you're thrown up Jillen Ragor from TCU. Jefferson makes sense. 3:10:32.080 --> 3:10:34.400 I do want to keep the linebackers in the mix 3:10:34.480 --> 3:10:37.520 here as well. But if I following the Cowboys, I 3:10:37.600 --> 3:10:40.039 think the player you don't want them to have. Yeah, 3:10:40.080 --> 3:10:42.280 it might be Rager, or it might be Justin Jefferson, 3:10:42.360 --> 3:10:46.520 something like that. I think it's Jefferson. I think that's 3:10:46.680 --> 3:10:50.000 if I'm a team of the NFC East, I don't 3:10:50.000 --> 3:10:51.800 want to see join Jefferson there because I think he 3:10:51.920 --> 3:10:55.039 is that he said they're missing Yeah, that would definitely 3:10:55.080 --> 3:10:57.120 be scary. And I know during our mock draft that 3:10:57.200 --> 3:11:00.600 we had live on the Draft show earlier in the month, 3:11:00.920 --> 3:11:05.400 we said Patrick Queen twenty one overall, So the linebackers 3:11:05.760 --> 3:11:08.400 at least in the conversation ever since we did that 3:11:08.560 --> 3:11:10.760 mock draft, so you could throw Kenneth Murder, you can 3:11:10.800 --> 3:11:13.440 throw Patrick Queen in there. Justin Jefferson of course a 3:11:13.520 --> 3:11:17.000 great wide receiver. If Jefferson makes it past this pick, 3:11:17.080 --> 3:11:19.160 I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the Vikings take a 3:11:19.200 --> 3:11:21.840 look and take a flyer on him at twenty two. 3:11:22.040 --> 3:11:25.160 So I don't think it's very long before we see 3:11:25.560 --> 3:11:28.440 another bevvy of wide receivers go off the board, whether 3:11:28.480 --> 3:11:30.840 it is Raygor, Jefferson, or even Denzel Mims. At the 3:11:30.879 --> 3:11:37.600 same time, Tee Higgins in that conversation too, to the 3:11:38.520 --> 3:11:44.000 territory where maybe often tackles. You know, the Ezra Cleveland's, 3:11:44.040 --> 3:11:48.800 the Josh Jones, Isaiah Wilston's, and we've got a couple 3:11:48.879 --> 3:11:54.320 pick the commissioner here, Dane. Okay, if you're able to give, 3:11:54.680 --> 3:11:57.160 we encourage you to go to NFL dot com splash 3:11:57.200 --> 3:12:01.119 relief to contribute to those most unique and we thank 3:12:01.200 --> 3:12:05.760 you again for your support. With the twenty first pick 3:12:06.280 --> 3:12:10.360 in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select 3:12:11.200 --> 3:12:18.720 Jalen Ragor wide receiver TCU. Jalen Rager wide receiver TCU 3:12:18.959 --> 3:12:21.480 is the pick for Philadelphia. I'm I'm a little surprised 3:12:21.520 --> 3:12:25.240 at it, and I don't like that. I don't like that. 3:12:25.560 --> 3:12:28.920 I know you're happy, Dave, but I don't like I 3:12:29.280 --> 3:12:31.800 love it. No offense to Jalen Ragor or you, but 3:12:32.200 --> 3:12:34.760 I just I didn't need that conflict of interest in 3:12:34.879 --> 3:12:39.280 my life. That's a watsa hatchee product. He's a DFW 3:12:39.560 --> 3:12:41.680 born and raised type of player, and the fact that 3:12:41.760 --> 3:12:44.240 he played at TCU and was a part of that 3:12:44.320 --> 3:12:46.720 offense with Gary Patterson and company. He was really the 3:12:47.000 --> 3:12:51.360 only offense that they've had over the last couple of years. Dan, Yeah, 3:12:51.400 --> 3:12:56.880 and Jalen Raiger is a talented, talented kid who did 3:12:57.000 --> 3:12:59.760 not have the production this past year, had some drops, 3:13:00.240 --> 3:13:03.560 but with all in his hands, he's an explosive guy. 3:13:04.000 --> 3:13:07.160 There's a lot to like about him. I know that 3:13:07.200 --> 3:13:10.480 he didn't necessarily have the nineteen season many expected. He 3:13:10.520 --> 3:13:13.880 didn't necessarily have the combine performance that many expected, but 3:13:14.160 --> 3:13:16.520 the bloodlines his dad played the NFL for a while, 3:13:16.840 --> 3:13:19.560 one of the most explosive guys. I'm surprised they waited 3:13:19.640 --> 3:13:22.400 him over Jefferson. But you know, once we get into 3:13:22.720 --> 3:13:25.520 that second tier of receivers, that's where things get really 3:13:25.560 --> 3:13:29.360 good shook up. And so it's very interesting pick here, right, 3:13:29.760 --> 3:13:32.160 Jalen Regers got a little boom bust to him. He 3:13:32.320 --> 3:13:34.800 might be really really good, all right, when't surprise me 3:13:34.840 --> 3:13:38.120 if he fizzled out. It's this is a really intriguing pick. 3:13:40.000 --> 3:13:43.080 Minnesota's got two picks coming up at twenty two and 3:13:43.200 --> 3:13:47.360 twenty five. Both well both they need some coverage out, 3:13:47.560 --> 3:13:50.400 that's for sure. And obviously a Mike Zimmer coach football 3:13:50.400 --> 3:13:53.680 team is probably gonna, you know, address the secondary a 3:13:53.720 --> 3:13:56.680 little bit. But that's something. But my question is now, 3:13:56.760 --> 3:13:58.600 with New England at twenty three in the Saints at 3:13:58.640 --> 3:14:01.440 twenty four. Should we be at all on Jordan Love 3:14:01.560 --> 3:14:07.880 watch Yes, good point, yep, trade up scenarios definitely and 3:14:08.000 --> 3:14:12.360 play for Jordan Love. It's you know, I don't I 3:14:12.480 --> 3:14:15.039 don't think the Patriots would draft him, but you can 3:14:15.080 --> 3:14:18.160 never rule out anything with the Patriots. The Saints, they've 3:14:18.200 --> 3:14:20.640 done a lot of work on for Love. So yeah, 3:14:20.760 --> 3:14:24.800 this is some interesting scenarios here coming up. Minnesota. They've 3:14:24.879 --> 3:14:27.280 looked at these receivers, they looked at I expect it 3:14:27.360 --> 3:14:29.879 to be a receiver, a corner, or an offensive tackle, 3:14:31.480 --> 3:14:34.760 possibly a pass rusher with each your gross matos still 3:14:34.800 --> 3:14:37.440 on the board. So but Minnesota's got two picks here 3:14:37.480 --> 3:14:41.200 within you know, a four picks fans, so they at 3:14:41.240 --> 3:14:43.640 twenty two. You've got to go with the player that 3:14:43.959 --> 3:14:45.400 you don't think it's gonna make it to you at 3:14:45.400 --> 3:14:52.640 twenty five. Man Antoine Winfield would make a lot of 3:14:52.680 --> 3:14:54.560 sense for them at some point the draft, given that 3:14:54.879 --> 3:14:57.560 the background there with his dad. Oh yeah, that's a 3:14:57.600 --> 3:15:00.880 great point, Katie. I mean, his dad played fourteen years 3:15:00.920 --> 3:15:03.040 in the NFL, the majority of that career coming with 3:15:03.160 --> 3:15:08.080 the Vikings, and I know that he also played for Buffalo, 3:15:08.280 --> 3:15:11.720 which is kind of funny because you talk about Buffalo 3:15:11.879 --> 3:15:16.440 and the Bills and the fact that actually the Vikings 3:15:16.520 --> 3:15:22.040 got this twenty second selection from Buffalo earlier in their 3:15:22.400 --> 3:15:25.720 draft process. So I think it wouldn't make sense for them. 3:15:25.879 --> 3:15:29.680 Maybe not at twenty two though, yeah, twenty two or 3:15:29.760 --> 3:15:31.600 twenty five. I mean they got they got room to play. 3:15:31.760 --> 3:15:34.280 You know, you also have these teams at the back 3:15:34.440 --> 3:15:38.400 end of the first round that notoriously move around a lot. 3:15:39.080 --> 3:15:41.840 Now we've talked about the Saints moving up. We've talked 3:15:41.840 --> 3:15:44.160 about Seattle Dane missioned earlier, the team I used to 3:15:44.280 --> 3:15:47.800 move back. We've seen Green Bay last year, you know, 3:15:48.720 --> 3:15:51.480 a first draft with their their new GM, you know, 3:15:51.680 --> 3:15:54.360 get aggressive and move up about ten spots in this 3:15:54.440 --> 3:15:57.120 area to go get Darnell Savage and safety. They're a 3:15:57.160 --> 3:15:59.120 team who's got ten picks in this draft, so they 3:15:59.200 --> 3:16:01.400 might be a team that might gets aggressive to go 3:16:01.480 --> 3:16:03.920 get something they want, which could be a tackle, a 3:16:04.040 --> 3:16:08.600 wide receiver, or an inside linebacker. Um, you know, you 3:16:09.200 --> 3:16:11.320 have a lot of a lot of action at San 3:16:11.360 --> 3:16:13.720 Francisco at thirty one has also been a team he's 3:16:13.760 --> 3:16:15.800 talked about wanting to get out. But I still think 3:16:15.879 --> 3:16:18.320 this is maybe a part of the draft where maybe 3:16:18.440 --> 3:16:21.279 we start seeing more trades. And I know it's predicting 3:16:21.280 --> 3:16:23.720 a lot of trades before the day started, but maybe 3:16:23.840 --> 3:16:26.360 maybe this is where things start moving around a little bit. 3:16:26.760 --> 3:16:29.800 I mean, I get, I mean, San Francisco did their thing. 3:16:30.800 --> 3:16:33.000 I just feel like teams just kind of want to 3:16:33.040 --> 3:16:35.120 hang in there. They're like, look, we let's just go 3:16:35.280 --> 3:16:37.240 with what we know rather than try to get cute. 3:16:37.879 --> 3:16:41.320 And by the way, headlines starting excuse me, sorry, Katie, 3:16:41.400 --> 3:16:43.680 I was just gonna say headlines starting to roll across 3:16:44.160 --> 3:16:46.600 on the screen about the Cowboys pick of Ceedee Lamb 3:16:46.680 --> 3:16:50.120 said that he was indeed their number one wide receiver 3:16:50.280 --> 3:16:53.040 on their board, so you know the front office is 3:16:53.040 --> 3:16:55.240 happy about that. But I think you could also see 3:16:55.280 --> 3:16:57.440 wide receivers start flying off the board here, whether it's 3:16:57.440 --> 3:17:00.600 the Vikings at twenty two or twenty five. Dolphins could 3:17:00.640 --> 3:17:02.400 use a wide receiver at twenty six if they don't 3:17:02.400 --> 3:17:05.240 want to look at a running back there. Seahawks, I 3:17:05.360 --> 3:17:07.560 know they can maybe use one Ravens there. I mean, 3:17:07.640 --> 3:17:09.960 there's plenty of spots here for some of those the 3:17:10.160 --> 3:17:13.520 second tier wide receivers behind the quote unquote big three 3:17:13.600 --> 3:17:17.080 that have already gone, but maybe Justin Jefferson. Where's the 3:17:17.080 --> 3:17:19.880 purple and gold. We've talked about him a little bit again, 3:17:20.280 --> 3:17:22.800 So I think there's definitely a spot for a wide 3:17:22.840 --> 3:17:25.240 receiver run. Kind of going against your point there, Kat 3:17:26.400 --> 3:17:28.800 thinks pick us in. We'll give you the announcement here 3:17:28.800 --> 3:17:32.400 in a minute. Patriots are making a trade there. Chargers 3:17:32.440 --> 3:17:34.400 will be on the clock for New England at twenty 3:17:34.440 --> 3:17:40.360 three three. So the Chargers moving back up into the 3:17:40.440 --> 3:17:44.440 first round. They had thirty seven from pick thirty seven, right, yeah, yes, 3:17:44.520 --> 3:17:48.160 so they're thirty seven and seventy one. Who do they 3:17:48.280 --> 3:17:54.880 want tackle? I mean, you think with they go Josh Jones, 3:17:54.920 --> 3:17:57.840 Azaah Wilson as Cleveland or could be one of these 3:17:57.920 --> 3:18:01.199 receivers as the run of theis they really like whether 3:18:01.360 --> 3:18:03.920 that's and we'll see who comes off the board here 3:18:03.920 --> 3:18:06.760 at twenty two to the Vikings if it is a receiver. 3:18:07.840 --> 3:18:11.560 But yeah, that's that's interesting that they felt like they 3:18:11.600 --> 3:18:13.600 needed to get in front of New Orleans at twenty 3:18:13.680 --> 3:18:16.080 four and the Vikings at twenty five to make that move. 3:18:16.600 --> 3:18:19.480 They've already got their quarterback. They selected Justin Herbert at 3:18:19.480 --> 3:18:21.640 the sixth overall pick, so there's no need to go 3:18:21.840 --> 3:18:24.039 up for a quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised to take 3:18:24.080 --> 3:18:26.600 another one here. Yeah, let's go get Jordan's love too. 3:18:26.640 --> 3:18:29.680 We gotta get a quarterback battle going here. But I 3:18:29.879 --> 3:18:32.520 think you could potentially look at a wide receiver. Maybe 3:18:32.520 --> 3:18:35.520 it's a Denzel Mims or Justin Jefferson, depending on who's 3:18:35.560 --> 3:18:38.080 on the board following the pick for the Vikings that, 3:18:38.240 --> 3:18:41.640 like Katie said, has been in for the last couple 3:18:41.680 --> 3:18:44.240 of moments. But at least it gives an opportunity for 3:18:44.320 --> 3:18:47.400 them to snag one of those two individuals if one 3:18:47.560 --> 3:18:52.360 is whichever one's left over. You know, the Vikings they 3:18:52.840 --> 3:18:55.560 really like Etra Cleveland. I wouldn't be surprised if he 3:18:55.600 --> 3:18:57.800 would be the pick either here at twenty two or 3:18:57.879 --> 3:19:01.560 twenty five. And of course, with the fun things no 3:19:01.640 --> 3:19:04.160 longer in town, you know, they could always go receiver. 3:19:04.600 --> 3:19:06.560 They don't have to force it here. I think each 3:19:07.080 --> 3:19:11.520 mottos as a passion Grinnin like returning to the Vikings, 3:19:11.879 --> 3:19:14.800 he could be someone they look at. This is an 3:19:14.879 --> 3:19:19.160 interesting dynamic here, two first rounders back to back like 3:19:19.240 --> 3:19:22.240 this from Minnesota, and shouldick him up a two and 3:19:22.320 --> 3:19:24.240 a three for a one it's just such a New 3:19:24.320 --> 3:19:27.440 England trade too, though they always kind of been at 3:19:27.520 --> 3:19:29.280 least I feel like it's a win for them to 3:19:29.360 --> 3:19:31.120 pick up a two and a three. Well, and they 3:19:31.160 --> 3:19:33.680 didn't have it too, so this is a chance for 3:19:33.760 --> 3:19:36.840 them too. Then. Uh, there's a lot of picks, but 3:19:37.040 --> 3:19:41.320 not not picks. And it also kind of shows exactly 3:19:41.440 --> 3:19:45.680 where New England lie or where they have Jordan Love. 3:19:45.800 --> 3:19:47.879 I mean, they would have had a prime spot at 3:19:47.959 --> 3:19:50.920 maybe going and picking a quarterback. Maybe they are as 3:19:50.959 --> 3:19:53.880 sold on Jared'stidham as as some had kind of alluded 3:19:53.920 --> 3:19:56.480 to earlier. So I think maybe this is kind of 3:19:56.520 --> 3:19:59.400 a telltell sign that maybe Jordan Love is not necessarily 3:19:59.480 --> 3:20:03.039 the guy that New England is sold on. Yet here's 3:20:03.040 --> 3:20:07.560 the commissioner for the twenty second overall pick. Cool, come on, 3:20:07.720 --> 3:20:15.680 let's go a Viking fan with the twenty second edition 3:20:17.600 --> 3:20:21.920 twenty draft the Minnesota involved. I love it. Justin Jefferson 3:20:22.720 --> 3:20:29.240 wide receiver LSU. Well, here's Justin Jefferson wide receiver out 3:20:29.280 --> 3:20:32.240 of LSU goes twenty second and I made it. I 3:20:32.360 --> 3:20:35.040 made kind of a snarky little comment earlier. But the 3:20:35.080 --> 3:20:38.320 purple and gold stays with Justin Jefferson goes from LSU 3:20:38.760 --> 3:20:40.720 to the Vikings, and that's a pick that's going to 3:20:40.800 --> 3:20:42.800 help out Kirk Cousins quite a bit. Of course, they 3:20:42.879 --> 3:20:46.119 lose Stefon Diggs in the offseason. He needed another target 3:20:46.200 --> 3:20:48.560 to go to because now he's off the Buffalo. Now 3:20:48.640 --> 3:20:54.320 you got one in Justin Jefferson. Jefferson who he dominated 3:20:54.360 --> 3:20:56.720 out of the slot this past year, and so there's 3:20:56.720 --> 3:20:58.760 a little bit of projection there if you want him 3:20:58.800 --> 3:21:02.280 to play outside. But this the production that he had 3:21:02.360 --> 3:21:06.000 this year, eleven catches, over fifteen hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns. 3:21:07.840 --> 3:21:10.119 He's kind of a throwback as a pass catcher because 3:21:10.160 --> 3:21:13.480 he's so He's Staddy at the at the stem. He's 3:21:13.600 --> 3:21:17.440 very tough, he's a reliable guy, and he could do 3:21:17.560 --> 3:21:20.880 so many things as an inside receiver. Now, I mean, Dave, 3:21:21.360 --> 3:21:23.880 you know this team better than a lot of people. 3:21:24.120 --> 3:21:27.080 Do you think he can kick outside and be just 3:21:27.240 --> 3:21:29.200 as productive as we saw this past year as a 3:21:29.240 --> 3:21:33.160 slot receiver. I hesitate to say that he can be 3:21:33.280 --> 3:21:35.960 just as productive. He had an insane season, but I 3:21:36.040 --> 3:21:38.840 really I think his skill set translates. Like I think 3:21:38.879 --> 3:21:41.920 he's toughinitely gets credit for he's great at going to 3:21:42.000 --> 3:21:44.360 get the ball, Like, if you're watching TV, they just 3:21:44.480 --> 3:21:47.480 showed him make a fantastic back shoulder catch. Him and 3:21:47.600 --> 3:21:50.920 Burrow have the most amazing chemistry on back shoulder balls, 3:21:50.959 --> 3:21:54.720 Like he can create separation against bbs even when he's 3:21:54.760 --> 3:21:57.080 not all the way open. I think that translates really 3:21:57.160 --> 3:21:59.880 well to being on the outside. I don't know if 3:21:59.879 --> 3:22:01.560 you're gonna ask him to do it all the time, 3:22:02.080 --> 3:22:10.480 but I absolutely think he's got that versatility. Now you 3:22:11.800 --> 3:22:15.400 go for you. So I'm not sure Minnesota thought Jefferson 3:22:15.480 --> 3:22:17.760 would would make it that far. Um, you know, I 3:22:17.800 --> 3:22:19.680 thought there were a lot of land mines in front 3:22:19.720 --> 3:22:23.199 of in front of Minnesota, namely, UH, the Eagles sitting 3:22:23.200 --> 3:22:26.480 there at twenty one that I'm not I'm sure wasn'tly 3:22:26.520 --> 3:22:28.560 surprised to see Jefferson still on the board for them, 3:22:28.640 --> 3:22:31.760 and UH kind of maybe changed how they were they 3:22:31.879 --> 3:22:34.360 viewed that pick, but I'm sure they were. They were 3:22:34.400 --> 3:22:36.800 happy to do it, and it'll be interesting the track 3:22:36.959 --> 3:22:41.520 now jeff Jefferson's career and to fund Big Buffalo, you know, 3:22:41.640 --> 3:22:44.360 because that that was the pick that they traded to 3:22:44.800 --> 3:22:47.640 uh to not have to worry about paying Diggs and 3:22:48.160 --> 3:22:51.800 worry about all that. He's a very talented player. Like 3:22:51.920 --> 3:22:54.039 I said, I think he's more of a throwback, very 3:22:54.120 --> 3:22:58.080 reliable player. My only question any play outside, Yeah, can 3:22:58.080 --> 3:23:00.880 you line him up any formation? He's still going to 3:23:00.920 --> 3:23:03.720 be in the same productive pro I think he can be. 3:23:03.920 --> 3:23:10.320 He was the last remaining player on the board. He's 3:23:10.360 --> 3:23:15.320 not in Philadelphia, so that's a that's a very very 3:23:15.440 --> 3:23:18.520 solid point. Now with the Chargers on the clock, you 3:23:18.840 --> 3:23:21.600 could be looking at a third straight wide receiver off 3:23:21.640 --> 3:23:23.680 the board. Yeah, I mean there are other deeds in 3:23:24.040 --> 3:23:26.560 LA For a team that's getting a new stadium, has 3:23:26.600 --> 3:23:28.600 a new quarterback, you could come up get a tackle, 3:23:28.720 --> 3:23:31.320 like Dane was saying a little bit earlier. But then 3:23:31.360 --> 3:23:34.600 you've got the Saints, the Vikings, and the Dolphins coming 3:23:34.760 --> 3:23:37.560 up next, and we still haven't seen a safety come 3:23:37.640 --> 3:23:39.240 off the board. And there's still a lot of the 3:23:39.280 --> 3:23:41.160 top corners there as well. I mean, you still got 3:23:41.240 --> 3:23:44.000 Diggs and Fulton on the board here in the late 3:23:44.120 --> 3:23:48.320 first round. There's I think you guys made a great 3:23:48.360 --> 3:23:50.800 point a little bit earlier when you went ahead and 3:23:50.920 --> 3:23:54.400 talked about the trades that could be happening. I mean 3:23:54.480 --> 3:23:56.480 there's Josh Jones, that's a tackle that I know a 3:23:56.520 --> 3:23:59.920 lot of teams like there's Jordan Loves still on the board, 3:24:00.040 --> 3:24:02.760 Grant Delpit either, Gross Matos, you run down the list, 3:24:02.920 --> 3:24:05.080 Zack Bond still on the board, and there are plenty 3:24:05.120 --> 3:24:07.840 of teams that are very high on these individuals. We've 3:24:07.840 --> 3:24:10.120 already seen one trade where the Chargers did take the 3:24:10.520 --> 3:24:14.360 twenty third pick and the pick is in. But there's 3:24:14.360 --> 3:24:15.879 a lot of teams I think here in the back 3:24:15.920 --> 3:24:17.960 half of this first round that would be willing to 3:24:18.280 --> 3:24:22.000 back up a little bit. I'll say this too about 3:24:22.040 --> 3:24:24.360 the Chargers a little bit, and we were just talking 3:24:24.400 --> 3:24:29.720 about offsive tackle two areas on my team needs list. 3:24:29.800 --> 3:24:32.400 That kind of pops up one as linebacker. And again, 3:24:32.480 --> 3:24:35.400 none of those linebackers has gone Murray Queen, you're Jordan 3:24:35.440 --> 3:24:37.360 Brooks if you're gonna throw him in there from Texas Tech. 3:24:37.800 --> 3:24:40.320 But also, wide receiver Keenan Allen is gonna be a 3:24:40.400 --> 3:24:42.720 free agent after this year. It's not like they're going 3:24:42.840 --> 3:24:45.880 a ton going on at wide receiver right now. But 3:24:46.320 --> 3:24:48.400 I agree with Dan, I think offensive tackle makes the 3:24:48.520 --> 3:24:50.960 most sense. You're trying to build that thing up and 3:24:51.040 --> 3:24:53.960 protect Justin Herbert for the future. But you know my 3:24:54.040 --> 3:24:56.960 team leads list. Slidebacker popped up as well. Yeah, you 3:24:57.040 --> 3:24:59.840 need offensive tackle, linebacker, wide receiver. I think those are 3:24:59.879 --> 3:25:03.200 the top three needs. But out of those three, who's 3:25:03.800 --> 3:25:07.240 necessarily the top pick. Out of those maybe Kenneth Murray, 3:25:07.320 --> 3:25:09.440 I mean, maybe Patrick Queen, depending on which one of 3:25:09.480 --> 3:25:11.920 those guys you have hire. I think the linebackers might 3:25:11.959 --> 3:25:14.600 still be the best players available out of at least 3:25:14.640 --> 3:25:20.640 the needs that the Chargers could potentially have. Here, it's 3:25:20.640 --> 3:25:23.320 a great player right now overall? Is that Janessa? So 3:25:25.440 --> 3:25:29.240 that the Patriots might consider him? So that's uh, that's 3:25:29.240 --> 3:25:32.640 at least who's available for me? So for me, for me, 3:25:32.760 --> 3:25:44.119 it's Jordan Love um and obviously Kenneth Murray linebacker Oklahoma. 3:25:45.440 --> 3:25:49.280 Kenneth Murray, linebacker out of Oklahoma. And and that's a 3:25:49.640 --> 3:25:51.600 good pick. It was one of the top players at 3:25:51.640 --> 3:25:54.560 least on my board. And like Dane was saying, maybe 3:25:54.640 --> 3:25:57.000 Jordan Love just not a fit because they've already selected 3:25:57.040 --> 3:26:00.720 their quarterback. But instead of going with an offensive counterpart 3:26:00.879 --> 3:26:03.640 to Jordan Love, now you go on the defensive side 3:26:03.680 --> 3:26:09.080 and address that. I mean, I'm not trying to I 3:26:09.320 --> 3:26:12.080 don't like to bash on on players. I mean these guys, 3:26:12.080 --> 3:26:14.359 you know, it's it's Kenneth Murray's dream to get drafted. 3:26:16.320 --> 3:26:18.840 But I mean just talking about the value. Not that 3:26:19.000 --> 3:26:20.800 I think Kenneth Murray's a help a player, but a 3:26:20.959 --> 3:26:26.240 fourteen spot trade for an off ball linebacker, I don't know, Man, 3:26:27.080 --> 3:26:29.040 they want him to go be there, Junior say out, 3:26:29.840 --> 3:26:33.160 you know, go be that guy who's your team leader, 3:26:34.040 --> 3:26:37.240 difference maker on defense for years. So that's what that's 3:26:37.240 --> 3:26:39.160 what you're seeing. If you're if you're giving up that 3:26:39.280 --> 3:26:42.480 much inventory to move up that for it's it's a 3:26:42.680 --> 3:26:45.520 quality over quantity. I mean you you are really banking 3:26:45.640 --> 3:26:49.000 on him being an impact player for your defense, and uh, 3:26:49.160 --> 3:26:52.280 you know it puts pressure on player. Uh you remember 3:26:52.360 --> 3:26:55.120 when the Saints traded a first round or to go 3:26:55.240 --> 3:26:57.480 back up and get Marcus Davenport in the first round 3:26:57.560 --> 3:26:59.920 and the type of pressure that puts on a play 3:27:00.120 --> 3:27:02.080 or to live up to that type of hype and 3:27:02.200 --> 3:27:06.280 that type of you know, talk about the value that's 3:27:06.320 --> 3:27:08.680 gonna be that's gonna be attached to Murray that he's 3:27:08.680 --> 3:27:10.240 gonna have to live up to. Put a little more 3:27:10.280 --> 3:27:14.840 pressure on him. Not Trump pick, but he's a fun player. 3:27:14.959 --> 3:27:17.960 I think He's late through things at times, but he 3:27:18.160 --> 3:27:21.680 is a terrific run and chase player. He's a tweak 3:27:21.720 --> 3:27:23.840 his strike zone a little bit, loves to tackle high. 3:27:24.240 --> 3:27:27.600 But the competitive energy, the play speed both off the 3:27:27.720 --> 3:27:31.120 charts for this player. Well, you talk about he's, by 3:27:31.160 --> 3:27:34.200 the way, emotional on the screen right now, a very 3:27:34.440 --> 3:27:36.880 passionate player, and you can see that in his film. 3:27:37.200 --> 3:27:40.280 The lateral movement is there. You talk about the closing speed, 3:27:40.400 --> 3:27:43.320 the process and ability. He's football smart and you can 3:27:43.440 --> 3:27:46.000 see that just how quickly he's able to process. Like 3:27:46.120 --> 3:27:48.680 Dane said, he's got a little bit of a formation issue, 3:27:48.680 --> 3:27:50.680 which is tackling a little bit high. You don't necessarily 3:27:50.760 --> 3:27:53.160 like that in an off ball linebacker, but he's not. 3:27:53.320 --> 3:27:56.560 He's still not afraid to go downhill and hit somebody, 3:27:56.640 --> 3:27:58.600 and so I think that's something that at least you 3:27:58.800 --> 3:28:02.160 like about a guy like if Murray. Second Oklahoma player 3:28:02.240 --> 3:28:05.040 off the board following our CD Lamb. By the way, 3:28:05.040 --> 3:28:06.560 I just wanted to throw that out there. That's all 3:28:06.560 --> 3:28:10.120 I wanted to do Thereason ever since, oh Man, don't 3:28:10.240 --> 3:28:13.680 don't blame you at all. Yeah, I was just I'm 3:28:13.760 --> 3:28:17.080 also scared and shaking on my fourteen mile run that 3:28:17.120 --> 3:28:20.120 I've got to do. But now you set up a 3:28:20.240 --> 3:28:24.680 potential of where can Jordan Love go? Do the Saints 3:28:24.760 --> 3:28:26.880 want to back up quarterback Drew Brees isn't going to 3:28:26.959 --> 3:28:31.480 be there forever. You do have a couple options in 3:28:31.680 --> 3:28:34.920 terms of cornerbacks still there, there's safety is still available. 3:28:35.000 --> 3:28:37.600 But what are you seeing here, Dane? For the Saints 3:28:37.640 --> 3:28:42.039 at twenty four, the Queen, to me is the perfect fit. 3:28:42.800 --> 3:28:45.920 They need to get younger at linebacker. And when you 3:28:46.120 --> 3:28:48.480 look at this is this is a big time player 3:28:48.600 --> 3:28:51.520 Louisiana in high school. It was to LSU was a 3:28:51.680 --> 3:28:55.280 big reason why they won a national title and had 3:28:55.840 --> 3:29:01.760 some six sun defense. And you know why not? New 3:29:01.879 --> 3:29:06.680 Orleans needs more young, explosive players on that side of 3:29:06.680 --> 3:29:09.520 the ball. And I think Patrick Queen gives to him. 3:29:09.560 --> 3:29:12.560 So I don't know. I mean, Dave, I'll let you 3:29:12.720 --> 3:29:15.240 gush about about Queen and what he could bring to 3:29:15.360 --> 3:29:19.280 a defense. Actually, And I mean, I love that I 3:29:19.400 --> 3:29:21.320 keep having to talk about the l two players as 3:29:21.360 --> 3:29:25.160 if I'm not compromised enough. But Queen is interesting to me. 3:29:25.360 --> 3:29:29.320 Queen honestly reminds me a lot of Layton Vanderesh And 3:29:30.360 --> 3:29:32.360 I don't necessarily mean the way they play like that 3:29:32.480 --> 3:29:35.400 sounds silly. Vanderesh has several inches on Queen, like they 3:29:35.480 --> 3:29:39.920 don't look alike, but in a very similar capacity, Patrick 3:29:40.040 --> 3:29:43.800 Queen just flew onto the scene off the strength of 3:29:43.840 --> 3:29:47.400 absurd athleticism. You know. Vanderesh, you know, only played what 3:29:48.400 --> 3:29:52.680 two years of college football. Queen didn't start until he 3:29:52.920 --> 3:29:55.119 was a third of the way through this past season. 3:29:55.560 --> 3:29:58.279 They just couldn't keep him off the field anymore. And honestly, 3:29:58.840 --> 3:30:02.200 as good as this year, I thought of him more 3:30:02.240 --> 3:30:04.000 as like a Day two pick. I was like, yeah, 3:30:04.400 --> 3:30:08.560 Queen's probably like a top sixty pick, but those measurables. Man, 3:30:08.720 --> 3:30:11.320 if you can if you're not a liability and coverage 3:30:11.360 --> 3:30:13.600 and you can diagnose plays and go run and hit, 3:30:14.560 --> 3:30:16.880 that's valuable in a league that's so pass heavy, you 3:30:17.040 --> 3:30:19.840 need linebackers that are not a liability. In the past game, 3:30:19.959 --> 3:30:23.400 I absolutely think Patrick Queen is that, and it has 3:30:23.440 --> 3:30:27.960 been remarkable to see him shoot from I mean, he 3:30:28.160 --> 3:30:30.320 was a backup that people didn't know if he could 3:30:30.600 --> 3:30:34.080 replace Devin White, for like, I hope this Queen kid 3:30:34.160 --> 3:30:37.640 can replace Devin White, and you know, nine months later 3:30:37.760 --> 3:30:39.440 he might go in the top thirty of the draft. 3:30:39.480 --> 3:30:43.880 It's pretty incredible. His first career start was, sorry, the 3:30:44.200 --> 3:30:46.800 first career start was when Devin White was suspended the 3:30:46.959 --> 3:30:51.840 first half of the game last year eighteen. And then 3:30:51.879 --> 3:30:54.800 he takes over as the starter, and he got better. 3:30:54.879 --> 3:30:56.840 With the more football that he saw. You could kind 3:30:56.840 --> 3:31:00.040 of still all illuminate more and more and more, and 3:31:00.360 --> 3:31:02.720 you got another young player still only twenty years old, 3:31:03.520 --> 3:31:06.959 but with that explosive ability that you kind of bank 3:31:07.080 --> 3:31:11.360 on that with those traits moving forward, I feel like, 3:31:12.360 --> 3:31:14.840 you know, because of what they've done at wide receiver 3:31:14.959 --> 3:31:20.640 with Emmanuel Sanders, that might be off the table right now. Um. Possibly, um, 3:31:21.280 --> 3:31:23.840 he's you know with Queen. And I'm sorry if you 3:31:24.160 --> 3:31:26.680 did this stat already day because you have tons of 3:31:26.720 --> 3:31:29.320 great nuggets and I'm regurgitatings up and you said, but 3:31:29.440 --> 3:31:31.760 I had him down for over five hundred coverage snaps 3:31:31.800 --> 3:31:35.520 and never won for more than twenty yards. That's what 3:31:35.640 --> 3:31:38.800 I had him death for. It's awesome. I hope you 3:31:38.879 --> 3:31:41.320 didn't say that, numb regurgitating it while I'm looking up 3:31:41.360 --> 3:31:45.480 my notes for it. No, I know, go ahead, Jordan 3:31:45.600 --> 3:31:48.760 Love right, I mean that could be that could be 3:31:48.840 --> 3:31:50.560 time to go ahead and go ahead and pull the 3:31:50.600 --> 3:31:52.879 trigger there. At some point we got to figure out 3:31:52.879 --> 3:31:56.080 who their quarterback is after Drew Brees. Drew Brees already 3:31:56.120 --> 3:31:59.880 signed a broadcasting deal. Okay, so like it. It's it's 3:32:00.000 --> 3:32:05.360 getting pretty close. Seems now is as good at times anyway? Right? Yeah, 3:32:05.440 --> 3:32:07.600 and the SATs done a lot of work and love 3:32:08.560 --> 3:32:10.720 it would not be surprised at all if that interestion 3:32:10.760 --> 3:32:16.200 they win, Like you said, I mean, Taysom Hill, I 3:32:16.280 --> 3:32:18.920 don't know, it's hard to you know, obviously the Saints 3:32:18.959 --> 3:32:20.959 love him. How much do they love Do they really 3:32:21.040 --> 3:32:23.400 think he could be the guy? Could they really hand 3:32:23.440 --> 3:32:25.880 the keys from Drew Brees a Taysom Hill? I mean, 3:32:26.080 --> 3:32:29.120 I think that most of us on the outside looking 3:32:29.120 --> 3:32:31.480 in don't think that. But what it Sean Payton think. 3:32:31.520 --> 3:32:35.200 Obviously that's all that matters. So you know that that 3:32:35.360 --> 3:32:38.040 is something to watch him with this quarterback situation. But 3:32:38.160 --> 3:32:40.920 at the same time, are you pressured to maybe go 3:32:41.160 --> 3:32:43.280 for a player that's gonna help you win right now? 3:32:43.640 --> 3:32:45.920 Because you do only have Drew Brees for maybe one 3:32:46.000 --> 3:32:49.160 more season, and drafting a quarterback in the first round 3:32:49.280 --> 3:32:50.880 is not going to help you get any closer to 3:32:50.959 --> 3:32:54.760 the Super Bowl in the seat in twenty twenty. Well, 3:32:54.840 --> 3:32:57.320 you also got to look at even out of the 3:32:58.080 --> 3:33:02.240 needs that we have Patrick Queen backer obviously there quarterback. 3:33:02.400 --> 3:33:05.720 Is there just as a backup corner, maybe corner a 3:33:05.800 --> 3:33:08.120 little bit. I know they've added some secondary help with 3:33:08.200 --> 3:33:11.240 Malcolm Jenkins. They had an Emmanuel Sanders to the wide 3:33:11.280 --> 3:33:13.480 receiver corps. I would say wide receiver here, but I 3:33:13.520 --> 3:33:16.760 don't think necessarily that's one spot. Any other needs that 3:33:16.879 --> 3:33:19.080 kind of stick out to you guys that they could 3:33:19.080 --> 3:33:25.440 potentially be looking at here going into the off season. 3:33:25.440 --> 3:33:27.840 I would have said wide receiver, but Emmanuel Sanders really 3:33:27.920 --> 3:33:31.360 does help out with that. They you know, probably like 3:33:31.400 --> 3:33:33.000 to get a little more out of drink one Smith. 3:33:37.480 --> 3:33:40.160 You could still gold receiver. I mean still again because 3:33:40.280 --> 3:33:43.040 like what I just mentioned about going for it, you know, 3:33:43.560 --> 3:33:45.880 having one season, what are the Tampa Bay Bucks doing. 3:33:45.920 --> 3:33:48.160 They're going for it right now with a short window 3:33:48.240 --> 3:33:51.200 with Tom Brady if they have one more teasing Drew Breezes. 3:33:51.680 --> 3:33:53.240 You know, I don't know how much you're gonna rely 3:33:53.360 --> 3:33:56.280 on a rookie receiver to necessarily put you over the top. 3:33:56.440 --> 3:33:58.880 But we're gonna cool it out. We're gonna cut you 3:33:58.959 --> 3:34:03.959 off here, Dan, here's the pipe. We missed the pick again. 3:34:04.160 --> 3:34:10.160 But Caesar Ruise out of Michigan the offensive linemen, real 3:34:10.280 --> 3:34:13.400 interior offensive lineman. That's uh that's not one of the 3:34:13.480 --> 3:34:15.000 needs that we kind of put out there. I have 3:34:15.160 --> 3:34:18.040 it as a secondary need in my my I have 3:34:18.120 --> 3:34:21.760 their primary and secondary needs. I had interior offensive lineman 3:34:21.800 --> 3:34:26.880 in there, but I thought it was Farchigan. He's dedicated 3:34:27.000 --> 3:34:32.320 his career. Interesting, that's a really interesting move. They moved 3:34:32.400 --> 3:34:35.240 up for McCoy last year, and that's I was gonna say. 3:34:35.360 --> 3:34:38.160 They just traded for Eric McCoy, and I thought he 3:34:38.240 --> 3:34:41.160 played pretty well last year. He had a great rookie season. 3:34:41.360 --> 3:34:44.920 I think this is you're drafting him for uh more 3:34:45.600 --> 3:34:47.600 as a guard, because I mean, you look at Caesar 3:34:47.640 --> 3:34:49.840 of Weeds. He did play some guard in Michigan. So 3:34:50.920 --> 3:34:53.199 unless you're thinking about I don't think they're thinking about 3:34:53.240 --> 3:34:55.720 moving Eric McCoy after the season he had, So maybe 3:34:55.760 --> 3:34:58.520 you're looking to move Ruise inside a guard. I mean 3:34:58.560 --> 3:35:03.160 they what they brought back Andrew's pet at guard, keep 3:35:04.240 --> 3:35:07.119 Louise to right guard. You know, is that an upgrade 3:35:07.120 --> 3:35:10.760 over over Larry Warford? Is an interesting move here and 3:35:10.840 --> 3:35:14.320 we've talked about receiver helping out Drew Brees, adding offensive 3:35:14.360 --> 3:35:18.040 line depth. That's never a poor choice, so usually not 3:35:18.120 --> 3:35:22.560 a poor choice. The final years of Romo talking about 3:35:22.920 --> 3:35:26.880 Hey would rather have pressure on the outside than the 3:35:26.959 --> 3:35:29.520 pressure up the middle. That's the one that bothered him 3:35:29.520 --> 3:35:32.480 the most, the pressure that's in your face more than 3:35:32.720 --> 3:35:35.520 than when it's taking time to collapse the pocket. So, 3:35:35.680 --> 3:35:38.680 I mean, a guy who's not really mobile anymore, Drew Brees, 3:35:39.160 --> 3:35:40.959 we've always talked about his linked and how he needs 3:35:40.959 --> 3:35:44.360 a little room. Maybe staring up what you have there 3:35:44.440 --> 3:35:46.280 up the middle, maybe that makes a little bit of sense. 3:35:46.360 --> 3:35:48.840 But I definitely didn't see that coming. No, I didn't 3:35:48.840 --> 3:35:50.440 see that coming at all. But yeah, I mean, if 3:35:50.440 --> 3:35:52.920 you're gonna try to, you know, obviously the Saints are 3:35:53.000 --> 3:35:54.960 trying to make one last push and get over the 3:35:55.040 --> 3:35:57.560 hump and win another Super Bowl before they don't have breeze. 3:35:58.959 --> 3:36:02.040 I'm shocked. I mean, you know, we all would have 3:36:02.120 --> 3:36:04.960 guessed Crews play center. I guess he still could. Maybe 3:36:05.080 --> 3:36:08.240 maybe they'll have a position battle. Well, So he's so 3:36:08.440 --> 3:36:10.520 quick off the line of scrimmage, he's got those big, 3:36:10.600 --> 3:36:13.080 meaty hands, he's got eleven inch hands. I thought that 3:36:13.280 --> 3:36:16.520 was interesting coming out of the combine. And the thing 3:36:16.640 --> 3:36:18.640 is is he's so young. He's still early in that 3:36:18.760 --> 3:36:22.760 developmental curve, especially as an interior offensive lineman that I 3:36:22.920 --> 3:36:25.360 think you could move him around. And like Dane said, 3:36:25.400 --> 3:36:29.000 he has played some guard. It's not necessarily a pick 3:36:29.160 --> 3:36:31.040 that I think you would have made a twenty four. 3:36:31.320 --> 3:36:33.160 I think there might have been better options, whether it 3:36:33.200 --> 3:36:35.640 be linebacker, who I have a as a higher need 3:36:36.040 --> 3:36:39.880 than center or guard for the Saints. But if you 3:36:39.959 --> 3:36:42.120 were going to pick one, this would probably be the guy. 3:36:42.480 --> 3:36:44.840 But the fun thing is you get to process this 3:36:44.920 --> 3:36:48.119 stuff real in time. So you know, they were linked 3:36:48.160 --> 3:36:50.080 to Patrick Queen and made a lot of sense, but 3:36:50.879 --> 3:36:53.200 they got to Mario Davis. They got guys over there 3:36:53.200 --> 3:36:55.520 they could do that, and if you're going to win 3:36:55.640 --> 3:36:59.080 the Super Bowl, you might as well just fortify that 3:36:59.160 --> 3:37:01.320 thing up for Drew reason let them go. So, I mean, 3:37:01.959 --> 3:37:04.320 I see the logic. I'm surprised by it, but I 3:37:04.400 --> 3:37:08.560 see the logic. Maybe they're getting things beefed up for 3:37:08.720 --> 3:37:12.160 Taysom Hill when Drew Brees retires as a running quarterback. 3:37:12.400 --> 3:37:16.600 I don't know, throwing it out there. So at twenty 3:37:16.600 --> 3:37:19.600 five it's Minnesota, and then you have the Dolphins who 3:37:19.640 --> 3:37:22.960 got their quarterback. Then you got Seattle, then you have 3:37:23.080 --> 3:37:25.960 Lamar Jackson and the Ravens at twenty eight. My Jordan 3:37:26.080 --> 3:37:29.160 loved targets have now moved to twenty nine. The Titans 3:37:29.520 --> 3:37:33.920 maybe start developing someone behind Tannehill and then green Bay 3:37:33.959 --> 3:37:37.199 at thirty maybe time to search Frere Rogers are apparent 3:37:37.600 --> 3:37:40.080 getting a quarterback late in the first round, just like 3:37:40.160 --> 3:37:42.960 they did and Rogers so many years ago. Wouldn't it 3:37:43.080 --> 3:37:45.600 be fitting if it were to be green Bay that 3:37:45.760 --> 3:37:49.200 maybe does Land Jordan Love a guy who may not 3:37:49.600 --> 3:37:52.720 be ready for an NFL career, but could get into 3:37:52.800 --> 3:37:57.880 that spot, the spot that would make sense. But yeah, 3:37:57.920 --> 3:38:04.400 this is Trey trade and Vikings. Yeah, trade pick twenty 3:38:04.480 --> 3:38:08.280 five two San Francisco, and we talked about forty nine 3:38:08.360 --> 3:38:10.560 ers wanting to make some noise. They were right at 3:38:10.600 --> 3:38:13.320 the end of that first round, pick thirty one. I 3:38:13.400 --> 3:38:15.600 wonder what they gave in order to get that selection. 3:38:15.760 --> 3:38:18.240 I thought the Niners would go back again. I'm kind 3:38:18.280 --> 3:38:21.120 of surprised to see him going up. I wonder what 3:38:21.240 --> 3:38:23.760 it costs him because they did not have many picks 3:38:24.400 --> 3:38:28.440 entering today. Um, that is an interesting move someone they 3:38:28.600 --> 3:38:30.760 really want. It could be an offensive tackle to be 3:38:30.840 --> 3:38:35.160 Israel Cleveland. Yeah, it could it be Josh Jones receiver. 3:38:36.240 --> 3:38:40.600 I think Dentel Meim Brandon Ike. That's that's a possibility there. 3:38:41.120 --> 3:38:43.200 That really interesting move for the forty nine ers, who 3:38:43.920 --> 3:38:46.080 they they had two first round picks and they didn't 3:38:46.080 --> 3:38:49.000 pick again into the fifth. But what they did pick 3:38:49.080 --> 3:38:51.320 up what a fourth round pick in the trade back 3:38:51.400 --> 3:38:54.840 with the Bucks. So this must be a twenty twenty 3:38:54.920 --> 3:38:57.280 one draft pick, I would guess to move up from 3:38:57.400 --> 3:39:03.920 thirty just got it? Uh, thirty one, one seventeen and 3:39:04.080 --> 3:39:12.520 one seventy six. That's nothing, Yeah, I mean that's they 3:39:12.600 --> 3:39:14.760 treated a fourth and a fifth to move up. That's yeah, 3:39:14.800 --> 3:39:19.600 that's not that's not much at all. Maybe the maybe 3:39:19.640 --> 3:39:22.000 the Vikings just didn't have a guy they liked, because 3:39:22.080 --> 3:39:24.720 that just doesn't seem like enough to move six spots 3:39:24.760 --> 3:39:27.000 in the first round, either that or the guy that 3:39:27.080 --> 3:39:29.120 they like that maybe a little bit later. I mean 3:39:29.160 --> 3:39:32.039 they have a chance to pick a thirty one still. Yeah, 3:39:32.080 --> 3:39:34.960 they have a handful of guys that they like. They 3:39:35.320 --> 3:39:37.480 feel pretty good one of them still gonna be there 3:39:37.520 --> 3:39:40.640 at thirty one. Yeah, went on the trade yard. This 3:39:40.760 --> 3:39:42.120 is where I have to throw it out for the 3:39:42.200 --> 3:39:47.160 sake of discussion. You want to start giving second we 3:39:47.280 --> 3:39:50.400 do you have the San Francisco forty nine or with 3:39:50.640 --> 3:39:53.760 the twenty fifth pick and the two thy twenty NFL 3:39:53.840 --> 3:39:58.600 Draft San Francisco forty nine ers. So like Brandon, I 3:39:58.840 --> 3:40:06.080 you why receiver or a wide receiver out of Arizona State. 3:40:06.200 --> 3:40:08.560 So it was a wide receiver. They wanted their guy. 3:40:08.680 --> 3:40:10.440 They went up and snagged him. Now they did not 3:40:10.879 --> 3:40:13.200 pick a wide receiver earlier. Of course, they went with 3:40:13.320 --> 3:40:15.720 Javon kin Wall and pick fourteen overall, but they did 3:40:15.840 --> 3:40:19.440 go up and get a slot guy in IU. Interesting 3:40:19.520 --> 3:40:23.720 that they were worried about all those teams in front 3:40:23.760 --> 3:40:26.600 of them that they wanted. I got badly and I 3:40:26.760 --> 3:40:28.240 used a really good player. And he's one of the 3:40:28.240 --> 3:40:30.600 most explosive players in this raft, one of the best 3:40:30.720 --> 3:40:34.880 after the catch um and he really exploded on the 3:40:34.920 --> 3:40:36.720 scene his past year. He was stuck going to kill 3:40:36.800 --> 3:40:39.600 Harry Shadow last year. Juco Kid paid a lot of 3:40:39.720 --> 3:40:42.280 corner at the Juico level. He has yet to play 3:40:42.320 --> 3:40:45.320 his best football. So big fan of IUK, I don't 3:40:45.360 --> 3:40:47.880 think this is too early for him. Just a little surprised. 3:40:48.000 --> 3:40:52.640 Niers made it smooth. Now about a guy who can 3:40:52.920 --> 3:40:54.720 take it to the house and pretty much anytime he 3:40:54.800 --> 3:40:57.840 touches the ball, he's very dangerous. And you know that 3:40:58.040 --> 3:41:01.800 offense where it's you know, a lot of creativity in 3:41:01.879 --> 3:41:04.440 the offense, getting guys open, finding a way to get 3:41:04.480 --> 3:41:10.240 guys open, running a look of picks, good route concepts. 3:41:11.400 --> 3:41:13.640 They make it easy to get the ball into his hands. 3:41:13.680 --> 3:41:16.080 They'll do a lot of stuff with him. So it 3:41:16.200 --> 3:41:18.040 makes a lot of sense. You identify a guy you 3:41:18.160 --> 3:41:20.680 like right there, trade up for him, especially winning on 3:41:20.760 --> 3:41:24.119 the trade chart right there. Solid work again by San Francisco. 3:41:24.560 --> 3:41:26.800 But that's what I was gonna. I'm sorry, Kyle, I 3:41:26.879 --> 3:41:29.400 was just go for it. It's just, you know, it's 3:41:29.480 --> 3:41:32.600 easy to forget the way that drafts actually work because 3:41:32.959 --> 3:41:36.200 we watch these guys and we're like, oh, why would 3:41:36.240 --> 3:41:38.920 you trade up for AUK when you know you still 3:41:38.959 --> 3:41:41.520 have all these other receivers. I mean, what other receivers 3:41:41.520 --> 3:41:43.400 are still available? I don't even have the list in 3:41:43.480 --> 3:41:47.520 front of me. I know, Denzel Mims there, I mean, 3:41:47.680 --> 3:41:53.120 there's you got exactly. And my point being is like 3:41:53.240 --> 3:41:55.280 we sit there and say, why would you trade up 3:41:55.320 --> 3:41:58.840 for these guys. San Francisco clearly identified the guy. If 3:41:58.879 --> 3:42:00.560 they think they can do it the best, they might 3:42:00.760 --> 3:42:02.680 might not like a single one of those other guys. 3:42:02.840 --> 3:42:05.320 And if you're sitting there in your arrange, you do 3:42:05.400 --> 3:42:06.920 what you gotta do to get it done. And yeah, 3:42:06.920 --> 3:42:08.959 I mean, they won the trade as far as I'm concerned, 3:42:09.000 --> 3:42:11.600 that was awesome for them. Well, and you also take 3:42:11.640 --> 3:42:13.440 a team that was in the Super Bowl last year 3:42:13.520 --> 3:42:16.040 who has a ton of young talent, both a young quarterback, 3:42:16.120 --> 3:42:20.000 a young defensive corps. You add another spot on the 3:42:20.080 --> 3:42:24.000 defensive side of the football, a defensive tackle for javon Kinlaw. 3:42:24.080 --> 3:42:25.879 Then you also turn around and you add a wide 3:42:25.920 --> 3:42:28.800 receiver to help out Jimmy Garoppolo. I think this is 3:42:28.840 --> 3:42:32.560 a magnificent spot. You get a solid, starting caliber player 3:42:32.879 --> 3:42:35.400 on both sides of the football. You pick twice in 3:42:35.480 --> 3:42:38.480 the top twenty five, and then you're almost done. But 3:42:38.600 --> 3:42:40.959 you can still shure up some things later on, depending 3:42:41.000 --> 3:42:43.040 on how many more picks they have. I don't have 3:42:43.120 --> 3:42:44.640 it in front of me, but I mean there's plenty 3:42:44.720 --> 3:42:46.680 of options here, and I think this was one of 3:42:46.720 --> 3:42:49.120 those options that they said, hey, it's worth a risk. 3:42:49.240 --> 3:42:52.280 Let's go ahead and trade what we've got left in 3:42:52.480 --> 3:42:56.879 terms of draft capital and pick two top twenty five guys. Kat, 3:42:57.879 --> 3:43:02.280 you say with the numbers were in the belly chart, Yes, 3:43:02.480 --> 3:43:05.760 so that would be they won by about sixty points 3:43:06.040 --> 3:43:08.320 on the trade value chart, which is the equivalent of 3:43:08.920 --> 3:43:10.880 you know, a fourth round the middle of the fourth 3:43:10.959 --> 3:43:13.640 round pick or kind of early fourth round pick. Um. 3:43:14.480 --> 3:43:16.520 That's assuming my math is correct, and I do think 3:43:16.560 --> 3:43:19.880 it is, because that's pretty good at math. Is a 3:43:20.200 --> 3:43:23.240 He is a you know, a potential to be a 3:43:23.400 --> 3:43:27.360 yat machine, the way he hits top speed so fast. 3:43:27.480 --> 3:43:30.119 But there's a there's a clip in the game from Colorado, 3:43:30.240 --> 3:43:33.879 I believe where he reverses field and you know it's 3:43:33.879 --> 3:43:35.920 some of those players where the fans you're going, what's 3:43:35.920 --> 3:43:38.160 he doing running backwards? No, he's out running the entire 3:43:38.240 --> 3:43:41.400 defense and taking like, reversing field all the way around 3:43:41.400 --> 3:43:44.320 and turning what was a lost play into a big game. 3:43:44.600 --> 3:43:47.160 Just a really dangerous player to add to the San 3:43:47.200 --> 3:43:50.480 Francisco offense that already has George Kittle and Deebo Samuel. 3:43:50.520 --> 3:43:54.480 And that's just I mean, okay, that's just good work. 3:43:54.560 --> 3:43:56.480 Identifying a guy you like and go get it. So 3:43:57.040 --> 3:43:59.160 I love it. I love what San Francisco has done 3:43:59.160 --> 3:44:03.440 the night, assuming Ken laws, you know, medicals and off 3:44:03.520 --> 3:44:06.920 the field questions still play out. Getting Javon kin Law 3:44:06.959 --> 3:44:09.440 and Brandon Ayuk's pretty good haul for the for the 3:44:09.520 --> 3:44:12.000 forty nine ers. Now they're pretty much out of picks. 3:44:12.080 --> 3:44:16.240 Now you know that I'll be doing much. But that's 3:44:16.280 --> 3:44:19.120 a pretty good roster already. Well, I got in Dolphins 3:44:19.160 --> 3:44:22.120 on the clock for the third straight time. Sorry, go ahead, Dane. Now, 3:44:22.160 --> 3:44:25.720 I say the definition of a playmaker is someone that 3:44:25.840 --> 3:44:28.240 turns small place in the big place, and that's exactly 3:44:28.320 --> 3:44:31.560 how you does. So I'm looking at the forty nine 3:44:31.600 --> 3:44:34.959 ers attack with Deebo, Samuel and Brandon au can throw 3:44:35.080 --> 3:44:40.160 George Kittle in there. That's a pretty impressive three headed 3:44:41.240 --> 3:44:44.560 pass catching trio. That that's that's gonna be. Whether it's 3:44:44.640 --> 3:44:47.800 Jimmy Garoppolo moving forward or whoever, that could be a 3:44:47.920 --> 3:44:52.880 dynamic group that you can win with. Yeah, adding uh, 3:44:53.560 --> 3:44:56.920 adding Auk and Javan to a team that just lost 3:44:56.959 --> 3:44:59.320 the Super Bowl, even if they don't pick again, I 3:44:59.360 --> 3:45:01.360 don't think any buddy in San franz is gonna be 3:45:01.400 --> 3:45:05.120 mad about that. It's interesting that they passed on all 3:45:05.120 --> 3:45:09.040 those receivers earlier in the first round and then trade 3:45:09.160 --> 3:45:12.280 up frying you. It just tells you they must not 3:45:12.360 --> 3:45:16.240 have had a big gap between those that top grouper receivers. 3:45:16.440 --> 3:45:20.720 Then I came up at him pretty closely rated and 3:45:21.160 --> 3:45:26.320 also identifying guys that I fit what Kyle Shanahan wants 3:45:26.360 --> 3:45:29.800 to do too, Like you know, offensive minded coach who 3:45:29.840 --> 3:45:31.960 does have say it in their draft room a little bit? 3:45:32.560 --> 3:45:34.640 Does he fit what I do is is are you 3:45:34.840 --> 3:45:38.560 going to actual think it's It felt like that's the 3:45:38.640 --> 3:45:40.680 type of thing where, hey, they had circled all along, 3:45:41.200 --> 3:45:44.200 maybe we can get Kin Law here. They felt uncomfortable 3:45:44.240 --> 3:45:46.960 in trading back one spot to get Kin Law and 3:45:47.160 --> 3:45:51.600 replace Deforced Buttner who that traded. And then I can 3:45:51.840 --> 3:45:54.560 now we have the Dolphins of the clock, Dolphins, you know, 3:45:54.600 --> 3:45:57.440 pulling up their teammates. They've already got Tuah and obviously 3:45:57.560 --> 3:46:01.160 they got to Austin Jackson the offensive tackle pulling up 3:46:01.160 --> 3:46:05.039 their team age right now. Offensive line always need for them. 3:46:05.080 --> 3:46:08.440 It seems really kind of everything because it's not a 3:46:08.520 --> 3:46:14.800 great roster that look defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, wide receiver, 3:46:15.680 --> 3:46:18.080 a little bit of everything that they could probably add 3:46:19.120 --> 3:46:21.120 this would be the first running back off the board. 3:46:21.560 --> 3:46:24.440 I really could. I mentioned it before how they could 3:46:24.440 --> 3:46:27.760 do a facelift of the entire offense with left tackle, 3:46:27.840 --> 3:46:30.400 the quarterback, the running back, and if you draft two, 3:46:30.680 --> 3:46:32.840 get him as much help as you can. Left tackle 3:46:32.959 --> 3:46:36.840 does that. Standout running back does that. And Dolphins pick 3:46:36.840 --> 3:46:40.120 again pretty soon in a second at thirty nine overall, 3:46:40.240 --> 3:46:42.320 so I don't necessarily have to do that. They can 3:46:42.400 --> 3:46:44.240 draft a running back at thirty nine if they wanted to. 3:46:44.920 --> 3:46:48.199 Could they go pass rusher? Here? Gross motsos at this point, 3:46:48.800 --> 3:46:51.879 So yeah, maybe you mentioned all those needs a KT. 3:46:52.040 --> 3:46:53.760 They could go in a lot of different directions here. 3:46:55.720 --> 3:46:59.040 Rappaport has just tweeted out that the Dolphins are in 3:47:00.040 --> 3:47:04.160 aid talks with the Packers right now about potentially trading back. 3:47:05.080 --> 3:47:07.960 So that's the biggest There's a minute left on the 3:47:08.080 --> 3:47:10.880 clock or so right around there and pick still not 3:47:11.080 --> 3:47:17.360 in sod. This be your Jordan Love type area. It's 3:47:17.480 --> 3:47:20.640 right before the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Titans. I don't 3:47:20.720 --> 3:47:25.040 think out of those three it would probably be the Titans. Yeah, 3:47:26.840 --> 3:47:28.959 Green Bay is now on the clock. They gave up 3:47:29.240 --> 3:47:33.040 their pick thirty and they give up their fourth rounder 3:47:33.120 --> 3:47:35.920 to get up to twenty six. Another player, Patrick Queen 3:47:36.000 --> 3:47:38.640 makes a lot of sense. Green Bay loss Black Martinez 3:47:39.040 --> 3:47:42.760 to the Giants. They need so much help an inside linebacker, 3:47:42.879 --> 3:47:46.280 also need help with wide receiver, also need help offensive tackle. 3:47:46.600 --> 3:47:50.039 We've talked about the future Jordan Love of That can 3:47:50.080 --> 3:47:53.000 make a lot of sense. But Patrick Queen wouldn't surprise 3:47:53.120 --> 3:47:56.320 me either if that was the move. But they value 3:47:56.400 --> 3:48:01.040 linebacker enough to go Queen's time. Do you think I 3:48:01.080 --> 3:48:03.720 would say, given that they didn't even really make Blake 3:48:03.800 --> 3:48:10.600 Martinez an offer, Probably not, um Man, I don't know that. 3:48:10.640 --> 3:48:12.520 I know they've done a lot of work on Jordan Love. 3:48:13.320 --> 3:48:17.400 Um I know the idea of grooming someone is something 3:48:17.480 --> 3:48:21.199 Matt Lafleur would like if you're trading up for someone 3:48:22.000 --> 3:48:25.000 from their quarterback mix sense we talked about to go 3:48:25.840 --> 3:48:32.400 feels like. But Queen makes sense to Denzel Mims. You know, 3:48:32.480 --> 3:48:34.480 I thought you trying to put in a nice little 3:48:34.520 --> 3:48:36.480 wide receiver. Run together here at the back end of 3:48:36.520 --> 3:48:42.280 the first they need help there. They don't have anyone 3:48:42.320 --> 3:48:45.640 who can really get open outside Adams. I mean they 3:48:45.680 --> 3:48:48.960 added Devin fun alanzor end up having a good year. 3:48:49.560 --> 3:48:52.520 He is not a classic separator. They do need to 3:48:52.600 --> 3:48:55.200 help Aaron Rodgers out and his closing years, But they 3:48:55.280 --> 3:48:59.080 also lost Bolaga to the Chargers, So you know, you're 3:48:59.080 --> 3:49:01.640 talking about a t got a lot of holes to 3:49:01.720 --> 3:49:04.440 fill for a team that went to the NFC Championship Game. 3:49:05.000 --> 3:49:06.720 To see them trade up, we just kind of talked 3:49:06.760 --> 3:49:08.680 about that with the Saints. You kind of got a 3:49:08.720 --> 3:49:11.440 short window here. Are you gonna start to look at 3:49:11.440 --> 3:49:14.080 the future or go? Now the commissioner for this, let's go. 3:49:17.440 --> 3:49:20.360 The Miami Dolphins have traded the twenty sixth pick to 3:49:20.520 --> 3:49:24.440 the Green Bay Packers. With the twenty six pick in 3:49:24.520 --> 3:49:28.560 the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select 3:49:29.160 --> 3:49:35.720 Jordan Love, quarterback Utah State. Lafleur goes out and gets 3:49:35.840 --> 3:49:39.520 the air to the throne of Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Love 3:49:39.640 --> 3:49:43.760 the selection at twenty six overall. They trade up with 3:49:44.040 --> 3:49:48.480 the Miami Dolphins and select the Utah State quarterback and 3:49:48.920 --> 3:49:51.680 Jordan Loves a great players. He's a project, but he's 3:49:51.720 --> 3:49:54.520 still got every single tool you could potentially have. But 3:49:54.640 --> 3:49:58.560 now Lafleur has the guy, and of course Aaron Rodgers 3:49:58.680 --> 3:50:01.440 was the guy drafted behind Brett Far and the Packers 3:50:01.520 --> 3:50:04.680 kind of sticking with that same kind of mantra. This 3:50:04.960 --> 3:50:10.000 is a crazy I mean, it's it's funny when you think. 3:50:10.280 --> 3:50:12.880 You think about two thousand and five and Aaron Rodgers 3:50:12.960 --> 3:50:16.920 sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. Packers finally draft him, 3:50:17.160 --> 3:50:20.040 and he sits behind Brett Far for a few years. 3:50:20.480 --> 3:50:23.560 Jordan Love, he sits there, sits there, sits there. Packers 3:50:23.680 --> 3:50:28.120 draft him and yeah, he's the heir apparent. It's love 3:50:28.360 --> 3:50:30.360 talents not the question. It's just can you rain it 3:50:30.480 --> 3:50:33.520 all in and allow him to be a more consistent 3:50:33.560 --> 3:50:36.880 decision maker. You see the flashes at Pat Mahomes. You 3:50:37.040 --> 3:50:39.080 see a guy that can put the ball anywhere he 3:50:39.120 --> 3:50:43.000 wants in the field, throws with anticipation. Candy be more consistent. 3:50:43.720 --> 3:50:46.560 The interceptions went from six to seventeen this year, and 3:50:47.120 --> 3:50:51.280 the context is that, uh, you know, first head coach 3:50:51.960 --> 3:50:55.000 and only one returning starter on offense. He pressed a lot. 3:50:55.520 --> 3:50:57.440 Talent's not a question, it's just can you get him 3:50:57.440 --> 3:51:00.800 to be more consistent? God, there should be some tits 3:51:00.880 --> 3:51:05.600 conversations between the Floor and Rogers over the next three years. 3:51:06.160 --> 3:51:10.040 This is ridging. You think Rogers knew about this. No, 3:51:10.280 --> 3:51:12.640 not at all, because he stays out of it. Yeah, 3:51:12.680 --> 3:51:15.360 he doesn't want to be held accountable for anything. This 3:51:15.680 --> 3:51:18.240 is this is like such a perfect case of like 3:51:18.360 --> 3:51:21.480 the truth is stranger than fiction, right, Like they get 3:51:21.600 --> 3:51:25.400 Rogers at a discount far of as a fiery competitive 3:51:25.480 --> 3:51:27.320 dude who's trying to win at the tail end of 3:51:27.400 --> 3:51:30.760 his career. He's like not great to Rogers. I mean 3:51:30.960 --> 3:51:33.440 maybe not a total jerk, but like didn't really appreciate 3:51:33.520 --> 3:51:36.720 that he was there. They had like a pretty contentious relationship. 3:51:37.520 --> 3:51:40.680 Rodgers is, you know, a fiery competitive guy who's hard 3:51:40.760 --> 3:51:42.800 to get along with. You know, he's dying for the 3:51:42.880 --> 3:51:46.520 Packers to add some receivers and now he's got to 3:51:46.560 --> 3:51:48.840 deal with the quarterback who's supposed to replace him. Like, 3:51:49.760 --> 3:51:52.160 what are the odds that Rogers would have to face 3:51:52.240 --> 3:51:55.960 the same challenge as his predecessor, Like, hey, freaking love it. 3:51:56.960 --> 3:51:59.600 Hey Aaron, it's okay, we got you, Devin Funcius, it's 3:51:59.600 --> 3:52:04.920 all gonna be okay. Yeah, that's not gonna fly. Oh man, 3:52:05.280 --> 3:52:09.000 that's gonna be That's gonna be awkward, dude. Maybe if 3:52:09.040 --> 3:52:11.920 it's any consolation, If it's any consolation, like a lot 3:52:12.000 --> 3:52:15.360 of these receivers are gone, you know, justin Jefferson's gone, 3:52:15.760 --> 3:52:20.000 Ayuka's gone, Ragor's gone, the Big three or obviously gone. 3:52:20.040 --> 3:52:23.280 I mean, I guess Denzel Mims is there, but I 3:52:23.360 --> 3:52:27.360 can still get that guy in the second or third round. Maybe, Well, 3:52:27.360 --> 3:52:30.800 how I feel about these future picks like this, because 3:52:31.200 --> 3:52:34.400 sometimes it's smartens it sometimes it works out like it 3:52:34.560 --> 3:52:37.000 did with Aaron Rodgers, But man, I really want to 3:52:37.040 --> 3:52:39.000 see the rest of your draft at the end of this. 3:52:39.120 --> 3:52:41.000 I'll be really interested to see what else they came 3:52:41.080 --> 3:52:44.640 up with, because that is a team who just not 3:52:44.800 --> 3:52:48.240 only not only just wide receivers, but from a protection standpoint, 3:52:48.280 --> 3:52:51.120 Aaron Rodgers needs a little help to losing a book 3:52:51.160 --> 3:52:54.600 in tackle and Bilaga. And then you know that defense 3:52:54.720 --> 3:52:59.120 throughout his entire career has never been really good enough 3:52:59.200 --> 3:53:01.640 to go get him a lot of playoff victories. They've 3:53:01.680 --> 3:53:04.320 lost a lot of playoff games where they've put up 3:53:04.480 --> 3:53:07.600 thirty points. And just to kind of have some guys 3:53:07.640 --> 3:53:09.440 on the board that you think that that you thought 3:53:09.560 --> 3:53:11.840 might make sense that to go ahead and say, you 3:53:11.880 --> 3:53:14.640 know what, but look, Green Bay also had ten picks 3:53:14.680 --> 3:53:17.240 coming in. They could be a team that gets active 3:53:17.320 --> 3:53:19.960 and on day two and gets back in the mixing 3:53:20.040 --> 3:53:21.880 and maybe get some players. We've talked about the wide 3:53:21.880 --> 3:53:25.080 receiver class being deep and things like that, but we're 3:53:25.120 --> 3:53:27.800 all happy for a guy like Jordan Love who could 3:53:27.840 --> 3:53:31.600 have left Utah State, could have transferred, decided to stick 3:53:31.680 --> 3:53:34.640 it out there with a new coach, new system, even 3:53:34.680 --> 3:53:36.440 though the odds were kind of stacked against him a 3:53:36.520 --> 3:53:39.000 little bit. Kind of give him credit for tough of 3:53:39.040 --> 3:53:40.840 day out up there, because we've seen a lot of 3:53:40.880 --> 3:53:42.560 guys go, oh, it's start working out for me. Let 3:53:42.640 --> 3:53:45.000 me go to let me go find Lincoln Riley, you know, 3:53:45.200 --> 3:53:49.440 so respect to him one. You also kind of talk 3:53:49.520 --> 3:53:54.400 about Jordan Love overall, the type of comparisons that are 3:53:54.440 --> 3:53:57.360 being made right now. Of course, Aaron Rodgers was picked 3:53:57.400 --> 3:54:00.880 twenty fourth overall in his draft, and now sixth overall 3:54:00.960 --> 3:54:04.920 goes Jordan Love, both of which California guys. Now, Rogers 3:54:05.040 --> 3:54:07.760 is a little bit more Southern California, or excuse me, 3:54:07.840 --> 3:54:10.360 Love is a little bit more Southern California than Rogers was, 3:54:10.760 --> 3:54:12.880 as Rogers was more of a no no cow guy. 3:54:13.000 --> 3:54:15.360 But there's some comparisons between the two of them, and 3:54:15.480 --> 3:54:17.960 of course the careers of Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers 3:54:18.000 --> 3:54:20.200 are now going to be compared at that point. But 3:54:20.400 --> 3:54:23.640 moving on to twenty seven and Seattle and the Seahawks, 3:54:23.720 --> 3:54:25.600 this is kind of one of those intriguing picks to 3:54:25.680 --> 3:54:28.160 me because you're still going to see a very high 3:54:28.240 --> 3:54:30.680 caliber player go here. There's so many of those guys 3:54:30.760 --> 3:54:33.040 still on the board, whether it be as zach Baum 3:54:33.680 --> 3:54:39.120 or a Bond excuse me, ter Gross, Mato's, Denzel Mims, 3:54:39.240 --> 3:54:43.800 T Higgins. There's plenty of guys. Even cornerbacks Christian Fulton 3:54:44.320 --> 3:54:47.040 is still on the board here. And the Seahawks could 3:54:47.040 --> 3:54:50.640 go in any direction. Yeah, running back I mentioned earlier 3:54:50.720 --> 3:54:53.440 as could be that you know, you just you never 3:54:53.520 --> 3:54:56.400 know what the Seahawks that could happen. What about Patrick Queen, 3:54:57.440 --> 3:55:00.720 you know, kind of being the guy that's eventually gonna 3:55:00.760 --> 3:55:04.000 take over, uh for uh you know, the the great 3:55:04.040 --> 3:55:07.280 linebackers they have there, Uh, Bobby Watoner and kJ Ruddy 3:55:07.560 --> 3:55:11.000 that kind of deal. So, uh that's something you can 3:55:11.040 --> 3:55:13.560 we see, Uh Patrick Queen come off the board here 3:55:13.560 --> 3:55:15.560 at twenty seven. I don't I don't think it's eat 3:55:15.600 --> 3:55:19.520 your gross mantos. Uh, this this isn't you know, you 3:55:19.640 --> 3:55:23.080 never go Seattle. They always kind of pull out a surprise, 3:55:23.280 --> 3:55:25.320 and so I don't think I'm a little surprised or picking, 3:55:25.880 --> 3:55:29.320 but this, this would be a surprised on the loss. Well, 3:55:29.360 --> 3:55:32.120 we've talked a lot about too, Gladnee Fulton digs those 3:55:32.200 --> 3:55:35.680 cornerbacks who are still on the board there as well. 3:55:35.800 --> 3:55:38.040 That might be an area that they, you know, try 3:55:38.080 --> 3:55:44.000 to address too. Um Diggs, he was what they what 3:55:44.120 --> 3:55:47.120 they like? One quick note that just came across, So 3:55:47.320 --> 3:55:51.800 it says that, uh, they drafted Aaron Rodgers when Farv 3:55:52.000 --> 3:55:57.000 was thirty five. So Aaron Aaron Rodgers is thirty six 3:55:57.240 --> 3:55:59.960 and they're drafting Jordan Love. So that's about the time 3:56:00.720 --> 3:56:02.480 Aaron roddag is just gonna be in and out of 3:56:02.520 --> 3:56:04.680 retirement for two or three years and make it real tense. 3:56:04.800 --> 3:56:07.920 But you guys, do you guys ever watch True Detective 3:56:09.360 --> 3:56:12.520 h Yeah? First season time is a flat circle. Baby, 3:56:12.640 --> 3:56:18.160 let's go, yes, sir. Season two wasn't hit it too much, 3:56:18.280 --> 3:56:21.640 but I stopped at season one. It's fine. Season three 3:56:21.800 --> 3:56:24.520 was good. But Seattle, this is the this is what 3:56:24.600 --> 3:56:27.240 we like to call it in fact rapping ports reporting. 3:56:27.280 --> 3:56:29.600 It's not a trade. So Seattle not trading out as 3:56:29.600 --> 3:56:36.320 a surprise in itself. Patrick Queen, you mentioned, you know, 3:56:36.400 --> 3:56:39.520 the other linebacker that they just kind of last couple 3:56:39.520 --> 3:56:41.280 of weeks. You know, people starting to talk about is 3:56:41.360 --> 3:56:48.280 Jordan Brooks Murkhart right there. Local guy guaranteed it Tech, 3:56:48.640 --> 3:56:52.040 he guaranteed first rounder. So maybe he was promised by someone. 3:56:52.480 --> 3:56:54.560 But Queen Queen makes a lot of sense, and I 3:56:54.680 --> 3:56:57.360 think that's something something I would value. You can't have 3:56:57.520 --> 3:57:01.160 enough protection in Seattle either though, given you know the 3:57:01.240 --> 3:57:06.440 history of protecting Russell Wilson. But we see tackle here, 3:57:07.880 --> 3:57:10.720 tackles still there. Those guys we've been talking about are 3:57:10.760 --> 3:57:17.640 all kind of hanging around Damn Peter's kitchen is dope. 3:57:20.840 --> 3:57:23.560 I still think it's kind of odd that Patrick Queen 3:57:23.720 --> 3:57:25.800 is still on the board at this moment. I'm a 3:57:25.840 --> 3:57:28.640 little surprised by that because I think both him and 3:57:28.760 --> 3:57:31.040 Kenneth Murray were pretty close on my board, and I 3:57:31.080 --> 3:57:34.200 think overall, Patrick Queen's a solid player that could help 3:57:34.240 --> 3:57:36.480 out a defense immediately. The fact that he's still on 3:57:36.520 --> 3:57:39.360 the board and that linebacker is obviously a need for 3:57:39.440 --> 3:57:42.920 the Seahawks kind of surprised me a little bit. Depending 3:57:42.920 --> 3:57:44.880 on where they end up going if they go away 3:57:44.960 --> 3:57:48.040 from George or excuse me from Patrick Queen, I'd be 3:57:48.040 --> 3:57:52.120 a little bit surprised here. They added in free agency 3:57:52.200 --> 3:57:54.760 Greg Olsen to tight end, Philip Door said wide receiver, 3:57:55.280 --> 3:57:57.240 Vincent Mayota for a pass rusher, and then of course 3:57:57.280 --> 3:58:00.400 of the Cowboys, and then Chance Warmack and cedric O 3:58:00.440 --> 3:58:04.240 Bouyer in offensive line help. They are pretty active in 3:58:04.520 --> 3:58:08.000 free agency of adding some names to oh Man, some holes. 3:58:08.560 --> 3:58:11.080 That's I think the Seahawks are gonna get weird like 3:58:11.160 --> 3:58:14.480 they always do, aren't they They always do. They're a 3:58:14.600 --> 3:58:19.720 weird team. John Schneider does not care what anybody thinks. 3:58:20.160 --> 3:58:22.680 They're gonna take who they want and they'll be perfectly 3:58:22.720 --> 3:58:30.000 fine with that. What John Schneider found Cam Cancel our 3:58:30.080 --> 3:58:33.720 most valuable. It's great to see our teams and stadiums 3:58:33.920 --> 3:58:36.320 helping those who need it the most in our community. 3:58:38.480 --> 3:58:40.800 So with the twenty seventh pick in the twenty twenty 3:58:40.920 --> 3:58:46.480 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks for like Jordan Brooks linebacker 3:58:47.000 --> 3:58:53.160 Texas Tech. Jordan Brooks, linebacker Texas Tech, is the next 3:58:53.360 --> 3:58:57.360 pick for the Seattle Seahawks at the twenty seventh overall selection. 3:58:58.440 --> 3:59:00.560 Sorry to cut you off there, Dave, Like you said, 3:59:00.600 --> 3:59:02.240 they're getting a little bit weird. I thought it'd be 3:59:02.320 --> 3:59:06.240 Patrick Queen, but instead they go with Brooks. That's a 3:59:06.320 --> 3:59:09.960 surprise to see George Roscoe, not necessarily in the first round, 3:59:10.040 --> 3:59:13.720 but ahead of Patrick Queen. Definitely surprised there and Brooks. Hey, 3:59:13.800 --> 3:59:18.360 it is a productive guy as a tremendous resume. Instead 3:59:18.400 --> 3:59:21.600 outside versatility, he's a little shorter and you can see 3:59:21.720 --> 3:59:24.360 there are times where he's late to read the backfield action, 3:59:24.640 --> 3:59:26.720 but he's got that range where he can make up 3:59:26.800 --> 3:59:32.240 for it and you see him consistent. So a really 3:59:32.280 --> 3:59:34.960 good player who I thought would be there on day two, 3:59:35.240 --> 3:59:37.280 but I understand why he's coming off the board and 3:59:37.360 --> 3:59:40.280 day one just a little surprise is before Patrick Queen's 3:59:40.320 --> 3:59:43.720 off the board. Honestly, it reminds me a lot of 3:59:43.880 --> 3:59:46.160 what they did with Rashad Penny. We were talking about 3:59:46.200 --> 3:59:49.480 that earlier. It's a good point. No, everybody, everybody thought 3:59:49.520 --> 3:59:51.880 Penny was a good player, but I'm looking at it now. 3:59:52.040 --> 3:59:54.640 He went ahead of Sony Michelle in that draft, even 3:59:54.680 --> 3:59:58.440 ahead of Nick Chubb. He went ahead of carry On Johnson. 3:59:59.160 --> 4:00:01.080 Uh And that's I mean, that's not to say Jordan 4:00:01.200 --> 4:00:03.400 Brooks is going to be a disappointment. I think he's 4:00:03.400 --> 4:00:05.760 a good player. I thought he was more of like, 4:00:06.000 --> 4:00:09.120 you know, maybe you pick him in the forties. Um, 4:00:10.520 --> 4:00:12.920 I agree, I mean he's a good player. But yeah, 4:00:13.160 --> 4:00:15.760 to see him come off the board before Patrick Queen, 4:00:16.440 --> 4:00:19.520 who is pretty universally regarded as the you know, or 4:00:19.800 --> 4:00:22.000 was regarded as a top twenty five pick, it's a 4:00:22.080 --> 4:00:26.840 little surprising. I think a Texas Tech defensive player, you gotta, 4:00:27.000 --> 4:00:33.400 you gotta not carruth truth. I mean, so John Schneider 4:00:33.480 --> 4:00:35.960 does not care. He takes he's taken talent and like 4:00:36.960 --> 4:00:40.160 he's the first All American linebacker at Texas Tech since 4:00:40.440 --> 4:00:42.840 a guy named Zach Thomas maybe I heard of him. 4:00:43.280 --> 4:00:46.960 Uh so, not not bad right there, but still surprising 4:00:47.120 --> 4:00:49.640 that he's off the board four Queen um and he 4:00:49.840 --> 4:00:52.160 got a two hundred forty pounds ran four five four 4:00:52.240 --> 4:00:56.760 at the Columbine so he range. Its speed, not a 4:00:56.840 --> 4:01:00.880 problem with the player. How about the the back to 4:01:00.960 --> 4:01:03.840 back picks for Texas Tech head coach Matt Wells. He 4:01:04.000 --> 4:01:06.680 was the coach at Utah State with Jordan Love a 4:01:06.760 --> 4:01:08.880 little bit earlier, and now he gets his guy, Jordan 4:01:08.960 --> 4:01:11.600 Brooks back to back first rounders for Matt Wells, and 4:01:12.320 --> 4:01:14.160 like you said, it's a little odd seeing a Texas 4:01:14.240 --> 4:01:16.720 Tech defensive player go in the first round, but he's 4:01:16.720 --> 4:01:19.360 a good ballplayer overall. Now, with the Ravens at twenty eight, 4:01:19.400 --> 4:01:21.680 and I tweeted this out a couple of weeks ago, 4:01:22.160 --> 4:01:24.720 I said, it would be extremely scary to see Denzel 4:01:24.800 --> 4:01:29.840 Mims along with Lamar Jackson back and forth for the 4:01:29.920 --> 4:01:32.640 next decade. Is what I ended up saying. I think 4:01:33.400 --> 4:01:35.640 you could maybe go Zach Bond here. You could go 4:01:35.720 --> 4:01:38.920 with some linebacker hell Patrick Queen there as well. I 4:01:39.040 --> 4:01:42.080 think there's options here for the Ravens. But with Denzel 4:01:42.120 --> 4:01:44.480 Mims still sitting on the board and they need a receiver, 4:01:44.920 --> 4:01:50.520 you think that could be an option. I think it 4:01:50.600 --> 4:01:52.880 could be an option. How high are we willing to 4:01:52.960 --> 4:01:56.520 go on? You know, they also could use help on 4:01:56.600 --> 4:01:59.000 defense as well, I get safety. How high are we 4:01:59.080 --> 4:02:02.280 willing to go for someone like a Michael Pittman, a 4:02:02.320 --> 4:02:07.560 good point, someone big, someone reliable, someone kind of counter 4:02:07.720 --> 4:02:14.680 off of Marquist Brown too high, too rich? Real No, sorry, 4:02:14.760 --> 4:02:19.040 real quick, since I mean we're talking about receivers anyway, Uh, ceedee, 4:02:19.120 --> 4:02:21.200 Lamb is saying over the radio that he plans on 4:02:21.320 --> 4:02:26.320 wearing number ten in Dallas, so not gonna not gonna 4:02:26.400 --> 4:02:28.640 rock the eighty eight switching over to ten. IH like it. 4:02:28.760 --> 4:02:32.640 I think that'll good. I think eighty eight would have 4:02:32.640 --> 4:02:40.360 been better. I don't have much more than that, all right, 4:02:41.120 --> 4:02:45.480 Bill Well, I was thinking to Pittman's too earlier, right 4:02:46.600 --> 4:02:49.280 first round here, too early. I think he would be 4:02:50.200 --> 4:02:54.000 especially with Membs on the board. And I think that 4:02:54.160 --> 4:02:57.760 you can make a case for for Pittman at this point. Um, 4:03:00.400 --> 4:03:03.000 do we think Baltimore because they goes back bond here 4:03:04.360 --> 4:03:08.160 Patrick Patrick Queen and Epines are by two highest graded players. 4:03:08.400 --> 4:03:12.320 I mean, Patrick Queen seems like just seems like the 4:03:12.360 --> 4:03:15.640 perfect fit here. I mean he's an explosive player. Baltimore 4:03:15.720 --> 4:03:19.320 needs help, but linebacker inside and outside, they could use 4:03:19.440 --> 4:03:28.480 an explosive player like Queen, so one kind of picks 4:03:28.520 --> 4:03:33.560 them in. Still waiting here on Baltimore, what could you 4:03:34.120 --> 4:03:37.040 give us the updated order? Now twenty eight, twenty nine. 4:03:40.520 --> 4:03:43.000 You've got Tennessee at twenty nine. You've got Miami now 4:03:43.080 --> 4:03:46.240 at thirty after the trade with green Bay, the Vikings 4:03:46.320 --> 4:03:48.800 at thirty one after trading with the forty nine ers, 4:03:48.840 --> 4:03:50.840 and then the Chiefs round out the first round with 4:03:51.000 --> 4:03:54.680 the thirty second overall pick. Now, some notables that are 4:03:55.000 --> 4:03:58.520 still on the board. Christian Fulton, You've got Xavier McKinney 4:03:58.520 --> 4:04:00.600 and all the safeties. No safety, he has been taken 4:04:00.680 --> 4:04:02.960 just yet. All the running backs are still on the board. 4:04:03.040 --> 4:04:07.360 Jeff Gladmi is still there out of TCU. Mentioned some 4:04:07.520 --> 4:04:10.120 of the edge rushers, Yeter gross Matos from Penn State, 4:04:10.200 --> 4:04:14.760 aj Epanessa from Iowa, even Ross Blacklock, a TCU product 4:04:14.840 --> 4:04:16.680 that some people thought might be good enough to go 4:04:16.760 --> 4:04:20.360 in the first round. So in Patrick Queen, we've mentioned him, 4:04:20.880 --> 4:04:25.440 Denzel Mims. There's plenty of individuals that are still out 4:04:25.480 --> 4:04:28.400 there that could potentially go in the next five picks, 4:04:28.600 --> 4:04:32.280 just based off of need. But it's still kind of 4:04:32.360 --> 4:04:37.120 interesting to see exactly where you would see Baltimore going here. 4:04:37.120 --> 4:04:40.120 Because you mentioned edge rusher and linebacker. You could go 4:04:40.240 --> 4:04:43.280 either way here and still be Okay, are we going 4:04:43.320 --> 4:04:45.880 to see two positions? I'm gonna be interested if we 4:04:46.000 --> 4:04:50.560 see before the first round ends, safety, running back. Both 4:04:50.600 --> 4:04:54.600 those positions get shut out of the first round. Very possible. Well, 4:04:54.640 --> 4:04:56.720 the Dolphins have moved back to thirty and that trade 4:04:56.760 --> 4:04:59.480 at the Packers, and we were kind of taken around 4:04:59.480 --> 4:05:02.240 the idea been taking a runner there. That seems like 4:05:02.360 --> 4:05:06.560 that can make some sense. But with the quarterback Jordan 4:05:06.640 --> 4:05:08.600 Love off, the board feels that the trading could come 4:05:08.640 --> 4:05:10.480 to a halt a little bit. There. Don't no one 4:05:10.560 --> 4:05:12.400 really need to come up and get some guys. It's 4:05:12.720 --> 4:05:15.320 it's fun because there are some names that we've just 4:05:15.480 --> 4:05:18.640 kind of thought might sneak in. Isaiah Wilson, Ezra Cleveland, 4:05:18.800 --> 4:05:23.360 Josh Jones, the offensive tackles, digs in Fulton, you know, 4:05:23.400 --> 4:05:26.560 the an even Gladney, the cornerbacks. If you want to 4:05:26.600 --> 4:05:29.720 throw Dalen Johnson in there, you can. But you know, again, 4:05:29.760 --> 4:05:32.560 for me on my board, it's still Epanessa and Patrick 4:05:32.640 --> 4:05:35.760 Queen my highest graded players. Well, and I think with 4:05:35.920 --> 4:05:39.280 Minnesota sitting there at thirty one, I think they're looking 4:05:39.320 --> 4:05:43.000 at tackle or a corner, So I do think we 4:05:43.080 --> 4:05:46.080 could still see Jalen Johnson there, or we could see 4:05:46.120 --> 4:05:49.600 Ezra Cleveland sneak into this first round before it's all 4:05:49.640 --> 4:05:52.320 said and done. Fun. If you are the Ravens and 4:05:52.440 --> 4:05:54.480 you don't want to go with a wide receiver here, 4:05:54.800 --> 4:05:57.440 where would you go would you go with Patrick Queen? 4:05:57.640 --> 4:06:00.640 Is that the best overall player? You would go edge 4:06:00.680 --> 4:06:02.960 with A J and Essa, But of course I don't 4:06:02.960 --> 4:06:04.560 know if teams are that high because I'm not as 4:06:04.640 --> 4:06:08.360 high on ajp Andessa after as horrid combine. But I 4:06:08.560 --> 4:06:10.480 think you could maybe look at Queen here as the 4:06:10.560 --> 4:06:15.560 best player available, even maybe with the exception of wide receiver. 4:06:17.840 --> 4:06:19.920 And I just keep coming back to Patrick Queen. I 4:06:20.000 --> 4:06:24.240 think both the need and the talent that's available matches 4:06:24.320 --> 4:06:28.160 up very well from Baltimore here. Adding a young explosive 4:06:28.200 --> 4:06:32.440 the Commissioner, Dame the Walter Peyton Man of the Year 4:06:32.480 --> 4:06:36.520 Award is our highest honor and Uklais are truly a 4:06:36.640 --> 4:06:39.880 role model to all of us, and congratulations on being 4:06:39.920 --> 4:06:43.800 a Raven. With the twenty eighth pick in the twenty 4:06:43.880 --> 4:06:50.120 twenty NFL Draft, the Baltimore Raven select Patrick Queen linebacker 4:06:50.480 --> 4:06:57.720 Lsu Trick Queen linebacker Lsu is the selection and another 4:06:58.080 --> 4:07:01.240 LSU Tiger off the board that makes war now here 4:07:01.280 --> 4:07:03.680 in this first round. He's one that kind of dropped 4:07:03.720 --> 4:07:05.320 a little bit further than I thought. But this is 4:07:05.520 --> 4:07:08.640 a pick for the Ravens that it just kind of 4:07:08.720 --> 4:07:11.240 fits the mold of the success that they've had in 4:07:11.400 --> 4:07:15.200 terms of adding talent, and you know, Dave kind of 4:07:15.240 --> 4:07:19.440 talked more about just what we meant to that LSU defense. 4:07:19.560 --> 4:07:23.400 But he does not have an extensive resume. He's basically 4:07:23.440 --> 4:07:27.920 a one year starter. He there's some certain things about 4:07:28.000 --> 4:07:31.800 him that he don't love. Shorter arms, again, the resumes 4:07:31.800 --> 4:07:34.360 in my grade. He's not the biggest linebacker that he 4:07:34.440 --> 4:07:38.000 will struggle to the stack and shed blocks, but he 4:07:38.080 --> 4:07:41.400 can run and he's explosive and those two trades, that's 4:07:41.440 --> 4:07:43.480 what you're banking on. Like a player like this, he's 4:07:43.520 --> 4:07:46.160 got three down potential. He can play in coverage and 4:07:46.440 --> 4:07:49.080 I guess said earlier, I think that he the light 4:07:49.160 --> 4:07:52.120 ball really illuminated more and more as he suwhare football 4:07:53.680 --> 4:07:56.240 And I mean we talked pretty extensively about him earlier 4:07:56.320 --> 4:07:58.600 when we thought he might go in the early twenties. 4:07:58.720 --> 4:08:00.560 But yeah, I mean, like I said, it reminds me 4:08:00.600 --> 4:08:03.080 a lot of Layton vander Esh Like I want to say, 4:08:03.160 --> 4:08:07.840 he's got fifteen career college starts to his name, but 4:08:08.120 --> 4:08:10.640 he was phenomenal for LSU. And I mean, if watching 4:08:10.760 --> 4:08:14.040 TV like they are showing you that he's making plays 4:08:14.040 --> 4:08:16.040 in coverage and that's what makes him valuable. I mean, 4:08:16.280 --> 4:08:18.440 any linebacker that's going to go in the top fifty 4:08:18.800 --> 4:08:21.720 can read and react and make tackles like that's supposed 4:08:21.760 --> 4:08:24.480 to be a given. But if you don't have to 4:08:24.560 --> 4:08:26.920 take this guy off the field in passing situations, that's 4:08:26.960 --> 4:08:29.440 what makes him valuable to me. And I think that's 4:08:29.520 --> 4:08:32.520 why he was just made the first round pick despite 4:08:32.640 --> 4:08:37.120 really only starting one season. Man, that LSU team was good. 4:08:37.360 --> 4:08:41.680 They's so many playmakers. Man, it's it's surreal to think about. 4:08:41.800 --> 4:08:44.200 I mean, they've got four and we're not done. I 4:08:44.280 --> 4:08:46.480 think that'll probably be the end of it unless Christian 4:08:46.560 --> 4:08:50.920 Fulton goes But that, I mean, that was just incredible 4:08:51.000 --> 4:08:53.800 collection of talent. Was like lightning in a bottle. Well, 4:08:53.840 --> 4:08:57.000 and even mentioning Christian Fulton here, it kind of goes 4:08:57.080 --> 4:08:59.160 back to the point we were making earlier. There's a 4:08:59.240 --> 4:09:01.960 lot of cornerback acts, a lot of safeties. Grant to 4:09:02.000 --> 4:09:04.440 help put another LSU Tiger being one of them that 4:09:04.560 --> 4:09:07.080 are still on the board, and it's starting to stack up. 4:09:07.160 --> 4:09:09.760 You talk about Tennessee here, they're probably their biggest need 4:09:09.840 --> 4:09:13.400 would maybe be an interior defensive lineman, maybe a tight end, 4:09:14.800 --> 4:09:18.640 an interior offensive lineman. There's plenty of options for Tennessee. 4:09:18.840 --> 4:09:22.040 But then you go with Miami, you go with Minnesota, 4:09:22.120 --> 4:09:24.040 two teams that could use a wide receiver. Now I 4:09:24.120 --> 4:09:27.400 know Minnesota just picked a wide receiver, but it's starting 4:09:27.440 --> 4:09:30.080 to line up at least in the Cowboys. Fact of 4:09:30.320 --> 4:09:34.520 fifty one, still getting a team need on the defensive 4:09:34.560 --> 4:09:36.760 side of the football and having a great value as well, 4:09:37.640 --> 4:09:39.520 maybe a one better if you really want to get 4:09:39.600 --> 4:09:42.600 up to if you really like Trevon Diggs or you 4:09:42.640 --> 4:09:45.280 really like Xavier McKinney, give up pick fifty one and 4:09:45.360 --> 4:09:47.480 eighty two and go get him, because this is about 4:09:47.480 --> 4:09:49.520 where you can get. You can kind of get the 4:09:49.680 --> 4:09:52.720 thirty thirty one, thirty two maybe early part of the 4:09:52.800 --> 4:09:55.320 second rounds kind of that area. We're getting really close 4:09:55.360 --> 4:09:57.480 to that area. We're giving up fifty one and eighty 4:09:57.520 --> 4:09:59.760 two could get you in the mix. We've seen them 4:09:59.800 --> 4:10:04.200 do the before with DeMarcus Lawrence in twenty fourteen. UM 4:10:05.000 --> 4:10:06.680 trying to get up to the top of the top 4:10:06.720 --> 4:10:09.960 of the second round. Maybe we'll see how the final 4:10:10.040 --> 4:10:12.920 four picks of the night go. But interesting thing to 4:10:13.000 --> 4:10:16.120 think about overnight. I think it's really interesting that we've 4:10:16.280 --> 4:10:19.560 kind of seen a reluctance from teams to trade Day 4:10:19.600 --> 4:10:23.560 two picks. I mean, correctmunity from wrong. Is the La 4:10:23.760 --> 4:10:26.840 Chargers the only team tonight that have traded a D 4:10:26.960 --> 4:10:33.520 two pick? Yes, yes, yeah, because we've seen plenty of 4:10:33.600 --> 4:10:37.200 fourth rounders, we've seen some fifths. You know, day three picks, 4:10:37.560 --> 4:10:40.280 you know those are no problem. But it's been really 4:10:40.320 --> 4:10:43.280 interesting that we have seen reluctance from teams to hold 4:10:43.360 --> 4:10:45.240 onto those Day two picks. I think that speaks to 4:10:45.480 --> 4:10:48.520 the depth of this draft that you know, pick three 4:10:48.760 --> 4:10:52.720 isn't that much different than pick just because at each position, 4:10:52.840 --> 4:10:55.520 I think there there is value that stretches into Day 4:10:55.560 --> 4:11:01.720 two in this this class. That's kind of the conversation 4:11:01.800 --> 4:11:04.120 that we were having earlier this week on the Draft Show, 4:11:04.320 --> 4:11:07.680 was is the value at fifty one better than it 4:11:07.800 --> 4:11:10.080 was at seventeen? Now, seventeen ended up pretty being a 4:11:10.120 --> 4:11:12.120 pretty solid value for the count I don't know about 4:11:12.160 --> 4:11:14.640 that anymore, Ceedee Lamb, but that was the conversation that 4:11:14.800 --> 4:11:17.280 was at least being had, was there's so much depth, 4:11:17.480 --> 4:11:19.440 at least on the defensive side of the football of 4:11:19.480 --> 4:11:21.920 this draft that doesn't make it top heavy, but makes 4:11:21.960 --> 4:11:25.160 it valuable in the second in the third round, and 4:11:25.320 --> 4:11:26.920 now you're starting to see that kind of work its 4:11:26.960 --> 4:11:29.560 way out. You're gonna have some good players available, and 4:11:30.480 --> 4:11:32.920 maybe if you're afraid that some of those players could go, 4:11:33.560 --> 4:11:36.280 I kind of I'm right there with you. Kat, maybe 4:11:36.400 --> 4:11:38.880 not get into the first round, but maybe you go 4:11:39.000 --> 4:11:42.920 and give the Lions a call at thirty five. You're 4:11:42.960 --> 4:11:44.720 not going to call the Giants. You maybe trade the 4:11:44.760 --> 4:11:47.800 Patriots at thirty seven. I mean, there's definitely teams that 4:11:47.880 --> 4:11:50.880 are willing to deal at least at the top of 4:11:50.960 --> 4:11:52.960 that second round. So I think you at least have 4:11:53.080 --> 4:11:59.360 to have some conversations overnight. How much do you like 4:11:59.600 --> 4:12:02.680 whatever players are going up to get? You know, we 4:12:02.800 --> 4:12:06.160 thought if there was a chance they would consider Trevon Diggs. 4:12:06.520 --> 4:12:10.960 It's seventeen even who knows how likely that that was, 4:12:11.320 --> 4:12:13.040 but that was the name that will sprinled in if 4:12:13.080 --> 4:12:16.360 someone they liked. We had kind of kind of heard 4:12:16.480 --> 4:12:20.640 through back channels that they liked Diggs more than Fulton. 4:12:21.400 --> 4:12:23.520 Now interesting, we were talking, I know Tennessee's on the 4:12:23.560 --> 4:12:25.160 clock of the pits and they're about to announce it. 4:12:25.360 --> 4:12:28.160 Minnesota at thirty one, does it feel like Trevon Diggs 4:12:28.280 --> 4:12:30.120 is probably not an option for them, given with how 4:12:30.160 --> 4:12:33.520 it played out with Stefan got asking out of town. Ah, 4:12:33.680 --> 4:12:38.240 that's a good point. That'd be pretty surprising if Yeah, 4:12:41.320 --> 4:12:44.600 I think I think they would go Jalen Johnson if 4:12:44.600 --> 4:12:47.320 they went corner for Minnesota at thirty one, I'm looking 4:12:47.360 --> 4:12:51.840 at two players, Jalen Johnson or As Cleveland to tackle. 4:12:52.080 --> 4:12:55.440 That's that's my guess where Minnesota would go Tennessee on 4:12:55.480 --> 4:12:59.440 the clock. Now, do we Yeter gross Mottos? Is that 4:12:59.800 --> 4:13:03.360 that possibility? Here gets the pass rusher? Could they could 4:13:03.400 --> 4:13:09.280 go tackle us? Maybe a Ross blacklock here possible? I 4:13:09.320 --> 4:13:12.160 mean they went defensive tackle in the first round last year. Uh, 4:13:13.040 --> 4:13:16.680 but you know, I you know, strengthen them strength, that's 4:13:16.680 --> 4:13:21.800 definitely possible. Uh, you know, dressing right tackle makes sense. 4:13:22.080 --> 4:13:24.360 I think you look at pass rusher. They've been looking 4:13:24.400 --> 4:13:28.520 for that guy to go with Harold Landry. Um. It's 4:13:28.560 --> 4:13:37.320 an interesting group right here. Here's the offensive will out 4:13:37.360 --> 4:13:40.840 of Georgia, the offensive tackle, and there's the tackle we 4:13:40.920 --> 4:13:44.760 were talking about. Wasn't wasn't Josh Jones or Ezrac Cleveland 4:13:44.920 --> 4:13:46.760 kind of what we were thinking. But they do end 4:13:46.880 --> 4:13:49.720 up going with an offensive tackle at pick number twenty 4:13:49.800 --> 4:13:51.920 nine to kind of help out with Ryan Tannehill in 4:13:52.000 --> 4:13:54.720 that offense and protect Derrick Henry a little bit too. 4:13:55.560 --> 4:13:58.520 But this is oh sorry, go ahead, Dan, you say 4:13:58.760 --> 4:14:01.600 you lose Jack Conson right to tackle. You draft a 4:14:01.680 --> 4:14:04.280 guy that's only played right tackle to your starter for 4:14:04.360 --> 4:14:07.640 Georgia there playing opposite Andrew Thomas, so a natural fit 4:14:07.760 --> 4:14:10.680 to make sense on arms man with him. I think 4:14:10.720 --> 4:14:12.440 he's a guy who's gonna get a little a little 4:14:12.520 --> 4:14:16.280 better and was, you know, maybe overshadowed by Andrew Thomas, 4:14:16.360 --> 4:14:18.320 who the Giants took with the number four pick in 4:14:18.360 --> 4:14:22.280 the draft. I think, you know, again, this is a 4:14:22.360 --> 4:14:24.680 guy you're gonna need to develop a little bit. Um. 4:14:24.800 --> 4:14:26.640 I thought he looked good against Chase On in that 4:14:26.840 --> 4:14:29.720 LSU game. That's kind of a game where I kind 4:14:29.760 --> 4:14:32.160 of really you had had quite a few notes on 4:14:32.360 --> 4:14:35.480 him playing pretty well against Chase On. I think he 4:14:35.520 --> 4:14:38.840 does a good job of just kind of runk, standing 4:14:38.880 --> 4:14:42.080 his arms and doing a good job of not letting 4:14:42.160 --> 4:14:45.240 defenders get in on him. Again, still a lot to 4:14:45.360 --> 4:14:48.720 work with there. Sometimes he plays high. Sometimes he just 4:14:48.880 --> 4:14:51.240 kind of lazy getting into his pass rush set. But 4:14:52.120 --> 4:14:54.160 now Isaiah Wilson's a guy who I had a second 4:14:54.240 --> 4:14:57.040 round grade on, and you know, I felt I felt 4:14:57.080 --> 4:15:00.240 pretty good about him. I had a higher grade. I 4:15:00.480 --> 4:15:02.600 had a higher grade on him that I did Austin Jackson, 4:15:03.000 --> 4:15:05.600 who went at pick eighteen to the Dolphins. You know, 4:15:05.760 --> 4:15:08.480 and she's just looking. I'm looking at my film notes too, 4:15:08.560 --> 4:15:12.120 And when I wrote down here, I said, blend of size, mobility, 4:15:12.160 --> 4:15:15.320 and power, his technique and footwork holding back from being 4:15:15.360 --> 4:15:17.760 a first rounder. So apparently I was wrong on the 4:15:17.840 --> 4:15:20.000 fact of saying that he wasn't a first rounder. But 4:15:20.040 --> 4:15:22.120 I did have a late second round grade on him, 4:15:22.160 --> 4:15:25.120 so maybe I'm not as high as some are on him. 4:15:25.200 --> 4:15:27.000 I definitely have him a little bit further down the 4:15:27.040 --> 4:15:33.080 board than both Cleveland and also Josh Jones. But the 4:15:33.200 --> 4:15:36.640 fact that, like Dane said, he's an experienced yet young 4:15:36.760 --> 4:15:38.960 he was just a redshirt sophomore. He's still a little 4:15:39.000 --> 4:15:42.320 bit of a younger body that you could potentially work with. 4:15:42.560 --> 4:15:44.600 I don't think this is a terrible pick by any means. 4:15:44.640 --> 4:15:49.760 On the back half of the first round, Dave's big 4:15:49.800 --> 4:15:52.760 half face. I feel that this happens every year, that 4:15:52.880 --> 4:15:54.720 we'll get to the inn one, and then we sit 4:15:54.760 --> 4:15:58.400 there and go, man, there's some really good players left 4:15:58.480 --> 4:16:01.720 there in the thirties, and how long can they stay? 4:16:01.800 --> 4:16:04.280 Do you start thinking? That's what I was going to say. 4:16:05.240 --> 4:16:07.720 I think I've decided this is my favorite part of 4:16:07.800 --> 4:16:11.600 the draft because the top of the draft is boring. 4:16:11.720 --> 4:16:13.640 Like the first twenty players. I mean, we don't know 4:16:13.720 --> 4:16:15.440 what order they're gonna go in, but we know who's 4:16:15.480 --> 4:16:18.760 gonna get picked for the most part. And then you 4:16:18.840 --> 4:16:21.720 get into like Day two and Day three, and it 4:16:21.840 --> 4:16:26.720 starts becoming harder to really judge. You know, how teams evaluate, 4:16:26.800 --> 4:16:30.320 but here you've got a list of about twenty players, 4:16:30.520 --> 4:16:32.880 and you know, there's the media narrative and the fan 4:16:33.080 --> 4:16:35.720 narrative about who's supposed to go, and then you really 4:16:35.760 --> 4:16:37.680 get to find out how these teams feel, and it's 4:16:37.720 --> 4:16:41.040 obvious that sometimes they feel a lot differently. And it's 4:16:41.080 --> 4:16:43.800 not like these guys aren't worth first round picks, but 4:16:43.920 --> 4:16:53.040 they're just not the names that you're necessarily expecting. Go ahead, 4:16:53.520 --> 4:16:55.760 I was just gonna saying, with Miami on the clock, now, 4:16:55.840 --> 4:16:57.840 this is, of course the pick that they traded with 4:16:58.000 --> 4:17:01.080 green Bay. Green Bay goes up, gets Jordan Love at 4:17:01.120 --> 4:17:04.720 twenty six, Seahawks get Jordan Brooks at twenty seven, and 4:17:04.760 --> 4:17:06.840 then Patrick Queen goes twenty eight. So we've had back 4:17:06.880 --> 4:17:10.680 to back linebackers. We haven't seen a receiver since twenty five. 4:17:11.400 --> 4:17:16.280 We haven't seen a cornerback selected since Dame in our Nett, 4:17:16.320 --> 4:17:18.720 which is still probably the surprising pick of the night 4:17:19.240 --> 4:17:23.120 at pick nineteen. There's a couple of cornerbacks on the 4:17:23.240 --> 4:17:26.800 board here. But if you're the Dolphins, are you still 4:17:26.880 --> 4:17:29.640 kind of putting that focus on the offensive side of 4:17:29.680 --> 4:17:32.120 the football. Are you gonna try and address the defense here? 4:17:32.960 --> 4:17:36.600 Both the Dane's idea of running it back, let's see 4:17:36.640 --> 4:17:38.080 it happen. I mean, I think this is this is 4:17:38.160 --> 4:17:41.920 the point where you maybe make that move. And well, 4:17:41.920 --> 4:17:44.560 I think we are we at six receivers and six 4:17:44.640 --> 4:17:50.160 offensive tackles, I'm sure, so those two positions fighting it 4:17:50.280 --> 4:17:53.520 out to be the most represented position in the first 4:17:53.640 --> 4:17:56.880 round with what three picks left, so you know, still 4:17:56.920 --> 4:18:00.600 a chance we could see a tackle at thirty one, 4:18:00.720 --> 4:18:04.640 maybe the Minnesota so that that could could get interesting. 4:18:05.000 --> 4:18:07.480 I still think running back here, and you know it's 4:18:07.480 --> 4:18:10.640 anybody's guests which running back and they would prefer whether 4:18:10.720 --> 4:18:16.640 it's Dobbins or Taylor or maybe Swift. Yeah, as possible. 4:18:16.720 --> 4:18:21.560 So you know, you totally revamp your offensive backfield with 4:18:21.720 --> 4:18:24.520 a little tap of the quarterback to running back. They 4:18:24.560 --> 4:18:27.600 also need pass rusher, and you know we've rattled off 4:18:27.640 --> 4:18:32.680 all these there's no shortage of different positions. They could 4:18:32.720 --> 4:18:35.880 go here, who's your favorite running back? Or what? What's 4:18:35.920 --> 4:18:39.280 your kind of your top five running back ranking? Stay 4:18:40.640 --> 4:18:43.160 a big Dobbins fan. I just think that he is 4:18:43.240 --> 4:18:45.640 such a natural. Some guys are born to play running back. 4:18:45.680 --> 4:18:47.440 I think he's one of them with his ability to 4:18:48.320 --> 4:18:52.000 u re get you the whole with timing, and then 4:18:52.080 --> 4:18:54.360 he can be elusive at the second level. He could 4:18:54.360 --> 4:18:56.960 be a three down player. So I I but I 4:18:57.000 --> 4:18:59.360 have all these guys very close. I have Dobbins and 4:18:59.560 --> 4:19:02.600 Swift than Taylor, than Edwards the layer. But I mean 4:19:02.680 --> 4:19:04.760 I would not fault the Dolphins if they went any 4:19:04.840 --> 4:19:12.640 of those four running backs balls spectacularly. Maybe if that 4:19:12.840 --> 4:19:15.360 was a different draft, it would probably be more of 4:19:15.440 --> 4:19:17.880 an emphasis on running back. But I think, of course, 4:19:18.000 --> 4:19:20.000 like you kind of talked about a little bit earlier game, 4:19:20.080 --> 4:19:22.920 the way that the NFL is kind of moving now 4:19:23.000 --> 4:19:25.760 in the wide receivers being such a big emphasis and 4:19:25.840 --> 4:19:28.520 even with a deep talented draft at that position, they 4:19:28.600 --> 4:19:30.440 kind of get lost in the shuffle. But you can 4:19:30.520 --> 4:19:34.200 still have an impact running back and make a selection 4:19:34.280 --> 4:19:36.200 on one in the first round. I wouldn't be surprised 4:19:36.240 --> 4:19:38.320 as the pick is in here from the Dolphins now 4:19:38.800 --> 4:19:41.800 still waiting on the commissioner get the official word here. 4:19:41.840 --> 4:19:44.080 But if it's a running back, I wouldn't necessarily be 4:19:44.440 --> 4:19:47.200 too upset here with Miami because you get that facelift 4:19:47.240 --> 4:19:54.240 of the offense. It makes sense. I guess, you know 4:19:54.360 --> 4:19:58.000 at some point with the Dolphins again, they're not ready 4:19:58.040 --> 4:20:00.440 to win yet, so like there's a there's a lot 4:20:00.520 --> 4:20:02.800 going on there. I just I can't get my mind 4:20:02.840 --> 4:20:05.760 away from all these names who we just kind of considered, 4:20:06.000 --> 4:20:09.880 you know, and maybe top twenty type guys. Xavier McKitty 4:20:10.480 --> 4:20:14.560 comes to mind, Fulton Diggs again. I have a bigger 4:20:14.800 --> 4:20:17.080 a j Pidessa fan than than a lot of people. 4:20:17.160 --> 4:20:19.160 Are a bigger maybe Jeff Gladney fan than a lot 4:20:19.240 --> 4:20:23.920 of people. But there's so many names, man, I really like, 4:20:24.840 --> 4:20:27.320 you know what day two, Round two is gonna bring 4:20:27.400 --> 4:20:30.720 us tomorrow? Oh? I agree, you look at all the 4:20:30.840 --> 4:20:36.120 names there Jeff Gladney, Christian Fulton, Trayvon Diggs, Noah Igbinogaty, 4:20:36.200 --> 4:20:39.320 Jalen Johnson, Bryce Hall, and Cameron Danceler. There's so many 4:20:39.400 --> 4:20:42.360 options for a team that needs cornerback help, and now 4:20:42.440 --> 4:20:44.880 all of our are on the board. Here you might 4:20:45.000 --> 4:20:47.800 see one go here with Miami, of course corners in need, 4:20:47.880 --> 4:20:49.520 but I think they would still maybe stick with the 4:20:49.560 --> 4:20:52.640 offensive side of the football. And then you got the 4:20:52.800 --> 4:20:56.480 Chiefs at thirty two that could potentially take a quarterback 4:20:56.600 --> 4:21:00.000 or a cornerback rather with the last pick of the round, 4:21:00.040 --> 4:21:02.960 now I don't see the Vikings maybe taking a corner. 4:21:03.080 --> 4:21:05.600 Oh they could actually now that I'm kind of looking 4:21:05.640 --> 4:21:07.680 at it, they could potentially go corner. So these next 4:21:07.760 --> 4:21:11.920 three picks you could rattle off the same position. David Arnette. 4:21:11.920 --> 4:21:13.680 The shocking pick of the night so far is that 4:21:13.760 --> 4:21:15.320 the one that's kind of like, WHOA, I didn't see 4:21:15.320 --> 4:21:20.120 that coming him and Jordan Brooks, I mean Jordan Brooks, 4:21:20.160 --> 4:21:21.440 I thought, you know, there was a little bit of 4:21:21.480 --> 4:21:25.240 buzz about that happening, um, so that that was a 4:21:25.280 --> 4:21:27.960 little bit more expected. But David Arnett to go the 4:21:28.040 --> 4:21:33.000 top twenty picks definitely surprised. Uh. Look, David Arnett is 4:21:33.040 --> 4:21:36.040 not a bad player. Uh. And you know Ohio State 4:21:36.320 --> 4:21:40.600 they watching Okuda. A lot of teams went after are 4:21:41.080 --> 4:21:44.280 because they avoided a Okuda and Arnette held his own 4:21:44.600 --> 4:21:46.360 more than held his own. And like I said, it 4:21:46.360 --> 4:21:48.480 would play them inside, they play him outside. A really 4:21:48.560 --> 4:21:51.800 good tackler. Uh. He really did stop cutting down on 4:21:51.880 --> 4:21:55.920 the penalties this year. The downfield contact some people. Uh, 4:21:56.200 --> 4:21:59.760 some teams said that he rode the wrong way. Um, 4:22:00.160 --> 4:22:02.120 and so that is the factor that I thought was 4:22:02.240 --> 4:22:04.560 draw him farther than that. But obviously the Raiders were 4:22:04.600 --> 4:22:06.600 not one of those teams, and they felt comfortable with 4:22:06.720 --> 4:22:13.040 him over some of the other cornerbacks. Friend, baby hey 4:22:13.200 --> 4:22:15.920 rugs in our net, just like we thought in every 4:22:16.000 --> 4:22:19.440 mock draft, right. I mean, I'm not I had no 4:22:19.600 --> 4:22:21.600 idea that that's what the Raiders were gonna do. But 4:22:21.720 --> 4:22:24.720 in retrospect, I'm like, yeah, those are Raiders picks right there. 4:22:26.080 --> 4:22:30.120 You think that rioting right now? In Las Vegas? I 4:22:30.240 --> 4:22:32.760 know Las Vegas is a little different than Oakland, but 4:22:33.400 --> 4:22:37.000 I don't know if they're rioting. I mean, they addressed 4:22:37.040 --> 4:22:39.640 their two biggest needs. They got a receiver in a cornerback. 4:22:39.760 --> 4:22:41.680 We'll see if we'll see if they got the right ones. 4:22:41.880 --> 4:22:44.560 I mean I would have taken cd La over Harry Rugs, 4:22:44.600 --> 4:22:47.680 that's for sure. But honestly, I think I said this 4:22:47.800 --> 4:22:50.120 when they picked him, like, I like our net just 4:22:50.320 --> 4:22:52.400 as much, if not more than any of the guys 4:22:52.480 --> 4:22:55.920 that are on the board after j Henderson. And if 4:22:55.960 --> 4:22:58.240 they feel comfortable that he's not a knuckle head or 4:22:58.320 --> 4:23:00.920 not too much of a knuckle head, then I don't 4:23:00.960 --> 4:23:06.240 have a problem with it. What were you saying, Katie Us? 4:23:06.440 --> 4:23:08.840 I still like running back here for the Dolphins. But man, 4:23:09.440 --> 4:23:11.440 there's one thing I know about this league. It's the 4:23:11.520 --> 4:23:15.000 Dolphins will screw anything up, so uh, you never know 4:23:15.120 --> 4:23:23.440 what they're gonna do. Draft. The Miami Dolphins select no 4:23:24.360 --> 4:23:31.800 big defense him back oh AUBURNI Noah. Igbogeny Corner out 4:23:31.840 --> 4:23:34.840 of Auburn is the thirtieth overall pick. And we were 4:23:34.880 --> 4:23:36.960 talking about corner and I said that as one of 4:23:37.000 --> 4:23:39.960 the second round names. That kind of piqued my interest 4:23:40.200 --> 4:23:44.760 and at least made me a little bit excited about tomorrow. 4:23:44.920 --> 4:23:48.760 But man, the fact that Igbogeny is the selection is 4:23:48.840 --> 4:23:56.160 something special. Second It's it's interesting that he goes ahead 4:23:56.200 --> 4:23:59.440 of full, goes ahead of Dylan Johnson, goes ahead of 4:24:00.240 --> 4:24:03.600 ahead a dig I mean igban is he's a fun 4:24:03.760 --> 4:24:06.680 player because he's a receiver most of his life the 4:24:07.240 --> 4:24:10.440 corner as a sophomore, and you can tell he's still 4:24:10.560 --> 4:24:14.720 learning and putting things together. But terrific athlete. He's not 4:24:14.800 --> 4:24:19.120 afraid to get physical. Not the biggest guy, he's five tens, 4:24:19.480 --> 4:24:22.520 around two hundred pounds, but a really good athlete. I 4:24:22.560 --> 4:24:26.080 think he has the demeanor that the Dolphins are looking 4:24:26.120 --> 4:24:30.400 for at that cornerback position well. And he also has 4:24:30.440 --> 4:24:32.920 an impact on special teams as well if you really 4:24:33.000 --> 4:24:35.880 wanted to. He was a kick returner, a punt returner 4:24:35.960 --> 4:24:38.560 during his time at Auburn, so I think he could 4:24:38.720 --> 4:24:41.280 kind of have some versatility here. But I don't know 4:24:41.320 --> 4:24:44.280 if they really expected or I did. I definitely didn't 4:24:44.320 --> 4:24:47.000 expect even igban Agaeny to be in the conversation until 4:24:47.080 --> 4:24:49.040 we got to fifty one. I don't think he would 4:24:49.040 --> 4:24:53.000 have been at it even before then. That's uh, I mean, 4:24:53.280 --> 4:24:56.120 I really like, I mean like he just strikes me 4:24:56.200 --> 4:24:57.600 as a guy that you can put out there and 4:24:57.680 --> 4:25:01.640 let him handle his man. He was really impressive and honest, 4:25:01.680 --> 4:25:04.520 I think it's ironic that he went a pick before 4:25:04.720 --> 4:25:07.480 Vikings because that seems like something Mike Zimmer would do. Uh. 4:25:07.560 --> 4:25:12.320 You know, he loves his quarterbacks. Um, definitely surprising, kind 4:25:12.360 --> 4:25:15.840 of like David Arnette, though like surprising, I like him. 4:25:16.600 --> 4:25:18.400 I'm like, I don't think it's a bad pick. I 4:25:18.560 --> 4:25:22.840 just wasn't expecting to hear it so early. I mean, 4:25:22.960 --> 4:25:26.200 you look, he had some flashes and things like that, 4:25:26.320 --> 4:25:28.000 and he's guy he's don't get me wrong, he's got 4:25:28.080 --> 4:25:31.400 some good tape. There's too many times where I then 4:25:31.440 --> 4:25:33.240 I thought he was kind of on roller skates back 4:25:33.280 --> 4:25:35.640 there when it was time to turn and run and 4:25:35.720 --> 4:25:38.840 track the football, you know it kind of sometimes it 4:25:38.960 --> 4:25:41.360 just doesn't look natural, I guess, is what I'm saying. 4:25:41.400 --> 4:25:44.800 But again, I'm talking about a guy who's uh, Dane 4:25:44.840 --> 4:25:48.920 would say, most likely an ascending prospect, most likely a 4:25:49.000 --> 4:25:51.760 guy who's you know, developing it. Also, you know, they 4:25:51.880 --> 4:25:55.960 spent that money on Byron Jones, but uh and Xavian Howard, 4:25:56.240 --> 4:25:58.320 so maybe they see him as a guy that they 4:25:58.400 --> 4:26:02.320 can you know, play in the slide, you know, most 4:26:02.360 --> 4:26:04.080 of the time, because they've I mean, they've got two 4:26:04.280 --> 4:26:07.840 big white, two big cornerback contracts, so I really didn't 4:26:08.040 --> 4:26:12.520 see them going cornerback again one first round. Another note 4:26:12.600 --> 4:26:15.120 that I had on Igmanogeny was that the fact that 4:26:15.560 --> 4:26:18.960 his best tape was the under the bright lights Alabama 4:26:19.560 --> 4:26:22.440 LSU were some of the better games that he played, 4:26:22.640 --> 4:26:24.760 and even though some of the ball skills and some 4:26:24.880 --> 4:26:27.600 of the technicalities of it are a little bit unpolished, 4:26:27.840 --> 4:26:30.680 He's still an individual that I think would have been 4:26:30.720 --> 4:26:33.800 a value pick in the second round. But I'm not 4:26:33.920 --> 4:26:36.440 where Dave is of saying that, I don't think that 4:26:37.240 --> 4:26:41.040 thirty is where that value may lie. This might speak 4:26:41.080 --> 4:26:45.000 to how they feel about Xavian Howard, who has some 4:26:45.120 --> 4:26:48.200 off field issues going on right now, because obviously they 4:26:48.280 --> 4:26:52.400 gave all that money to Byron. Joe tankerously still in 4:26:52.480 --> 4:26:57.800 the mix, played well as an undrafted rookie last year, 4:26:57.920 --> 4:27:00.880 so interesting that they took owner at that point, and 4:27:01.040 --> 4:27:03.120 like it been Agny, I think he fits exactly what 4:27:03.240 --> 4:27:07.040 Brian Flores is looking for. He has that that competitive 4:27:07.080 --> 4:27:10.440 mentality that really shows on his tape and so makes 4:27:10.440 --> 4:27:13.760 it a lot of fun. With the Minnesota Vikings select 4:27:14.280 --> 4:27:22.400 Jeff Gladdene defensive back about Jeff Gladney staying in the 4:27:22.520 --> 4:27:26.280 purple as the Vikings take Gladdney off the board second 4:27:26.360 --> 4:27:28.520 straight corner. It's kind of what we talked about earlier. 4:27:28.560 --> 4:27:32.680 These final three picks may all be defensive backs. And 4:27:33.480 --> 4:27:36.920 I know, Katie, you're extremely high on Jeff Gladney. This 4:27:37.040 --> 4:27:40.080 is a solid selection for the Vikings, even trading back 4:27:40.240 --> 4:27:43.880 from where they originally were a twenty five. Yeah, just 4:27:44.480 --> 4:27:45.960 to me. I know a lot of people are going 4:27:46.000 --> 4:27:49.000 to knock his height at five ten, but again, he's 4:27:49.080 --> 4:27:52.000 got the length of a guy who's six foot, so 4:27:52.200 --> 4:27:54.600 I think that's something. You know, his really long arms, 4:27:54.600 --> 4:27:58.000 good wingspan, and just he plays the football. I think 4:27:58.040 --> 4:28:00.480 he's the aggressive guy of getting there. Dane had the 4:28:00.520 --> 4:28:05.120 stat earlier about two plus two seasons of more than 4:28:05.200 --> 4:28:10.960 fifteen balls batted down or passes defense. Again, I was 4:28:11.000 --> 4:28:13.320 in love with Jeff Gladney from the beginning. Loved his 4:28:13.440 --> 4:28:17.040 tape and love the fit here in Minnesota too. Man 4:28:17.120 --> 4:28:20.000 that that is a perfect place to go if you're 4:28:20.040 --> 4:28:24.680 gonna go, you know, be a defensive back. Immediately we'll 4:28:24.720 --> 4:28:26.720 get a chance to start, I would imagine. I know 4:28:26.800 --> 4:28:30.000 they have my cues who they took a couple of 4:28:30.080 --> 4:28:33.440 years ago. But Jeff Glide is going to have a 4:28:33.520 --> 4:28:35.720 chance to shine in Minnesota. I would really love to 4:28:35.840 --> 4:28:43.400 pick for that man. It's a value. Nonetheless, at thirty one, 4:28:43.560 --> 4:28:46.800 now you move on to the defending world champion Kansas 4:28:46.840 --> 4:28:49.720 City Chiefs. They still got Christian Fulton on the board. 4:28:49.720 --> 4:28:52.640 Do you think this could be a spot where Fulton 4:28:52.760 --> 4:28:55.520 goes in the mock draft that we had on the 4:28:55.760 --> 4:28:58.960 Cowboys Draft Show at aj Terrell. Now, of course he's 4:28:59.000 --> 4:29:02.160 off the board as he was so elected at sixteen 4:29:02.320 --> 4:29:05.480 overall by the Falcons, But whenever you look at corners 4:29:05.520 --> 4:29:09.560 available on at least right now, it would probably be 4:29:09.840 --> 4:29:12.280 the number one corner Christian Fulton. What I am I wrong? 4:29:15.880 --> 4:29:19.240 I think Jalen Johnson still has to be in that mix. Okay, 4:29:19.400 --> 4:29:21.760 I think he as long as you're okay with the shoulders. 4:29:21.800 --> 4:29:23.800 He's got a history of shoulder issues. As long as 4:29:23.840 --> 4:29:26.720 you're okay with the shoulders. I mean, I think I 4:29:26.800 --> 4:29:30.880 actually like him much better than Chris Fulton. But Trond 4:29:30.960 --> 4:29:34.200 Biggs is still there. Um, could we see the first 4:29:34.280 --> 4:29:37.400 running back off the board here? Is that possible? You 4:29:37.520 --> 4:29:40.760 look at they just won Super Bowl with an un 4:29:40.800 --> 4:29:43.240 drafted from agent running back, so they know they don't 4:29:43.280 --> 4:29:47.000 have to go that direction, but would add a superior 4:29:47.160 --> 4:29:49.960 talent at the position really bolt them up that much 4:29:50.040 --> 4:29:53.360 where it makes it worth a first draft pick. So 4:29:54.320 --> 4:29:56.920 the Chiefs they could go in several different directions here. 4:29:57.720 --> 4:30:00.600 It would be fun if the Chiefs drafted are running back. 4:30:00.840 --> 4:30:04.000 But I don't know. I bet if you told them 4:30:04.040 --> 4:30:06.320 at the start of the night that Kayley Johnson and 4:30:06.440 --> 4:30:09.720 Christian Fulton would both be there and throw in Trevon 4:30:09.840 --> 4:30:12.440 Diggs for that matter, I don't know. That's a lot 4:30:12.520 --> 4:30:14.760 of value at a position that you need. And yeah, 4:30:15.320 --> 4:30:17.560 and you're totally right. I mean, they just won the 4:30:17.600 --> 4:30:20.680 Super Bowl without a real running back, so I don't 4:30:20.720 --> 4:30:22.760 know how drastically they need to do that. When they 4:30:22.800 --> 4:30:26.240 have Mahomes and all those receivers, you're gonna be exactly 4:30:26.320 --> 4:30:29.120 how they value that position. Go ahead, Katie, Yeah, I 4:30:29.200 --> 4:30:32.520 want to make the obligatory Brian brought us yearly comment 4:30:32.680 --> 4:30:35.880 right now. Don't be surprised if someone wants to trade 4:30:35.920 --> 4:30:39.960 into thirty two to get that fifth year option, the 4:30:40.160 --> 4:30:43.640 very Brian brought us comment, and it's also very possible. 4:30:43.680 --> 4:30:46.920 At the same time, I'm gonna miss you guys the 4:30:47.000 --> 4:30:49.320 next two days. So, like, I just wanted to get 4:30:49.400 --> 4:30:54.360 that in because yeah, definitely miss you too, wish you 4:30:54.440 --> 4:30:56.640 were gonna be here, Katie. This was a lot of fun, man. 4:30:56.640 --> 4:30:59.720 I'm glad you were along for the ride. It's okay, 4:30:59.760 --> 4:31:02.000 and hopefully they'll allow me back next year on the 4:31:02.360 --> 4:31:05.560 Draft Show. There's the again draft Goo shirt. Oh there 4:31:05.600 --> 4:31:07.680 you go. Yeah, show that thing off. And that's the 4:31:07.760 --> 4:31:10.240 thing is is we love you, kat and we are 4:31:10.320 --> 4:31:13.760 sad that we we won't have you on our coverage 4:31:13.760 --> 4:31:15.960 the next couple of days, but you will be back 4:31:16.000 --> 4:31:18.240 on the Draft Show over the next couple of weeks 4:31:18.280 --> 4:31:20.760 and we'll kind of talk through exactly how things are 4:31:20.840 --> 4:31:24.840 happening with this draft. It's it's when you talk about 4:31:24.880 --> 4:31:28.280 the Cowboys. It's looking really good right now heading into 4:31:28.440 --> 4:31:30.160 the second round. Now, I know we've had a mini 4:31:30.240 --> 4:31:32.760 run of corners at least over the last couple of picks, 4:31:32.800 --> 4:31:35.360 and we may have another one here, but every safety 4:31:35.520 --> 4:31:38.840 still on the board. Most of the solid second tier 4:31:38.920 --> 4:31:41.680 corners are still there as well, like a Jalen Johnson 4:31:41.760 --> 4:31:44.800 or Christian Fulton. Is there an opportunity maybe tomorrow for 4:31:44.840 --> 4:31:47.480 the Cowboys to maybe throw in some extra picks and 4:31:47.520 --> 4:31:49.160 try and move up into the early parts of the 4:31:49.200 --> 4:31:54.400 second Did you want to do that? Who are we 4:31:54.520 --> 4:31:58.440 going for? After Christian Fulton? Let's say he doesn't get paid. 4:32:00.040 --> 4:32:03.360 I mean you're sitting here. I mean we we got 4:32:03.440 --> 4:32:06.840 our forty Burghers were feeling great about the offense. If 4:32:06.920 --> 4:32:10.040 there's one defensive position, I feel like I gotta come 4:32:10.080 --> 4:32:14.360 away with its cornerback. So let's see what the Chiefs 4:32:14.400 --> 4:32:17.680 do here. But I mean Fulton did and uh and 4:32:17.800 --> 4:32:23.520 I'm jail Now what about no safeties off the board yet? 4:32:24.240 --> 4:32:26.880 Do they have a high enough great on McKinney where 4:32:27.120 --> 4:32:30.560 that could be attempting option? I think I'd rather just 4:32:30.760 --> 4:32:32.760 wait and see if one of those guys will fall 4:32:32.880 --> 4:32:37.240 to me. And I agree, I think that's fair. I 4:32:37.320 --> 4:32:39.880 think it just comes down to hot how how high 4:32:39.920 --> 4:32:42.640 did they rape McKay where if they had a first 4:32:42.720 --> 4:32:46.000 round great on him, then it gets a little tricky. 4:32:46.120 --> 4:32:47.920 But I would agree with you. I think there are 4:32:48.080 --> 4:32:50.320 enough second round safeties where they don't have to make 4:32:50.400 --> 4:32:54.920 that reach. Say this now that I I mean, I've 4:32:54.960 --> 4:33:00.640 got an impact starter receiver. I'm I'm down to trade 4:33:00.680 --> 4:33:03.840 away my third if I'm gonna get a definitive starter 4:33:04.000 --> 4:33:05.720 in the second round, Like, if we're gonna get a 4:33:05.759 --> 4:33:09.680 guy that's gonna start at either corner or safety, you 4:33:09.720 --> 4:33:11.720 could talk me into it. I still, I don't. I 4:33:11.720 --> 4:33:14.120 would prefer not to, but I'm I'm open to it. 4:33:16.440 --> 4:33:18.480 I need some help at Edge, I need some help 4:33:18.560 --> 4:33:22.680 at cornerback. And I still and I'm about to probably 4:33:22.800 --> 4:33:26.640 sign my quarterback most likely, so I need some minimum 4:33:26.720 --> 4:33:29.559 wage guys. So I'm gonna try to keep my picks. 4:33:29.600 --> 4:33:31.920 But we'll, you know, maybe come back to me at 4:33:31.960 --> 4:33:33.760 pick thirty five and thirty six and we'll see how 4:33:33.800 --> 4:33:36.200 these names can fly off the border tomorrow. Maybe maybe 4:33:36.200 --> 4:33:41.240 you could talk me into something. I'm just I'm being cynical, 4:33:41.320 --> 4:33:44.280 but I'm kissing Edge goodbye until next year. Like it's 4:33:44.280 --> 4:33:48.360 gonna be Alden Smith and Tyrone Crawford. I mean what, 4:33:49.400 --> 4:33:53.200 I'm sorry who Alden Smith needs to make the team 4:33:53.280 --> 4:33:55.880 first before we start. I'm talking about it. Who are 4:33:55.919 --> 4:33:58.480 we getting? Who are we getting that's gonna do something? Now? 4:33:59.600 --> 4:34:06.240 I'm the ouch and Epanessa won't be there unless you're 4:34:06.320 --> 4:34:08.360 trying to trade up, which I mean maybe you could. 4:34:09.200 --> 4:34:12.120 Gross Matos. I'm not a big fan of his I 4:34:12.120 --> 4:34:15.320 wouldn't trade up for him. I like Epanessa more than him. 4:34:16.400 --> 4:34:18.400 But do you like Epanessa enough to get rid of 4:34:18.520 --> 4:34:22.520 your third round pick? I don't. I don't know, Dane, 4:34:22.560 --> 4:34:28.039 do you h And because I think that's the issue 4:34:28.080 --> 4:34:32.760 with the Cowboys they needed some low price. There is 4:34:32.800 --> 4:34:34.960 a commissioner with the last pick here for the Kansas 4:34:35.000 --> 4:34:38.400 City chief with the second pick, Dane always gets stut 4:34:38.440 --> 4:34:42.480 off by the commission A Super Bowl champion Kansas City 4:34:42.560 --> 4:34:51.280 Chiefs like Flyde Edwards Hilaire running back LSU sometimes another time, 4:34:55.600 --> 4:35:07.680 let's go, let's go, glad. I'm so excited. Really, we 4:35:07.759 --> 4:35:10.960 couldn't tell so, I mean, you know, I think I 4:35:11.080 --> 4:35:13.080 said this at the top of the broadcast. Actually I 4:35:13.200 --> 4:35:16.040 just hit my bold prediction. By the way, well done. 4:35:17.160 --> 4:35:20.320 I might have I might have well placed sources in 4:35:20.400 --> 4:35:25.759 the LSU program. And uh, I was told by somebody 4:35:25.880 --> 4:35:29.440 who matters that the thiefs were enamored with Clyde and 4:35:30.200 --> 4:35:33.440 I totally understand why. And oh my god, who the 4:35:33.520 --> 4:35:35.840 hell is going to stop the Kansas City Chiefs this year? 4:35:38.800 --> 4:35:42.840 It's a conjection. Lamar checks. That's a good point. I 4:35:42.960 --> 4:35:45.759 love I love the fit. I mean I mean, Clyde 4:35:45.840 --> 4:35:48.520 Edwards Alaric pretty kind of gone anywhere and that I 4:35:48.520 --> 4:35:50.720 would have loved to fit, but especially this team where 4:35:51.120 --> 4:35:53.440 they're going to give him turget out of the backfield. 4:35:53.759 --> 4:35:56.520 He was number two in all of FBS. It would 4:35:56.560 --> 4:35:59.680 catch his last thirty five. And my favorite part of 4:35:59.680 --> 4:36:03.919 it is he finds us hidden yards four yard runs 4:36:04.200 --> 4:36:06.640 for most running backs. He finds a way to get seven. 4:36:06.960 --> 4:36:09.840 And that's the difference between second and six and second 4:36:09.880 --> 4:36:14.040 and three, and that's huge. So Edwards Hilaire, no problem 4:36:14.120 --> 4:36:16.280 with him coming off the board here. And like we 4:36:16.360 --> 4:36:18.880 said before, the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with 4:36:18.880 --> 4:36:24.840 an undrafted running back offense and already dynamic offense. That's 4:36:24.880 --> 4:36:29.280 gonna be a lot of fun. Good luck Ac West, absolutely, 4:36:29.360 --> 4:36:31.600 And we got to wrap things up because the Dallas 4:36:31.640 --> 4:36:36.039 Cowboys post first round press conference is coming up here 4:36:36.080 --> 4:36:38.120 in just a moment. But before we say goodbye, we 4:36:38.200 --> 4:36:40.800 do want to send our condolences to the Prescott family 4:36:41.160 --> 4:36:43.960 after the news of the passing of Jase Prescott today, 4:36:44.640 --> 4:36:47.040 Dak Prescott's brother. We wanted to send our prayers and 4:36:47.120 --> 4:36:49.920 thoughts to them in a very sad time. Of course, 4:36:50.360 --> 4:36:53.040 it's kind of bringing a somber into what was a 4:36:53.160 --> 4:36:55.480 great first round. But we didn't want to acknowledge that 4:36:55.600 --> 4:36:57.840 before we got off of here. But the Cowboys at 4:36:57.880 --> 4:37:02.200 pick seventeen pick up Set Lamb, the wide receiver out 4:37:02.240 --> 4:37:05.320 of Oklahoma. Thanks so much for watching, Katie, Thanks for 4:37:05.440 --> 4:37:07.720 joining us today. We will see soon. We're gonna miss 4:37:07.759 --> 4:37:12.000 you over the next couple of days, but I know guys, 4:37:12.560 --> 4:37:16.160 love you guys. But for Kevin Turner, for Dame Brugler, 4:37:16.240 --> 4:37:18.720 for David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll 4:37:18.720 --> 4:37:21.600 be back tomorrow or rounds two and three is The 4:37:21.640 --> 4:37:25.440 twenty twenty NFL Draft continues here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 4:37:26.480 --> 4:37:29.160 This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 4:37:29.400 --> 4:37:31.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.