WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: Hunter Biden Guilty and What's Next with Andy McCarthy 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.439 We've seen a lot of legal drama in the country recently, 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.800 coming off the heels of President Trump being found guilty 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.000 on thirty four felony counts. Even though that was a 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.640 witch hunt, we know that that was a sham trial 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.280 from a judge who literally donated to Joe Biden and 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.200 a group called Stop Republicans. So he's trying to do 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.840 just that, Stop Republicans, Stop Donald Trump. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:24.919 And now Hudder. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:29.080 Biden has been found guilty in all three federal felony 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.839 gun charges that he was facing. He also has a 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.879 tax trial beginning on September fifth. He's facing three felony 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.560 tax offenses and six misdemeanors in that one. So where 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.440 do we go from here as a country? What should 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.560 you know about Hunter Biden being found guilty on those 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.680 federal gun charges. What's next for him? What kind of 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.320 sentencing will he face? Also, what will we find out 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.760 during this tax trial? Well, Hunter Biden plead guilty to 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.720 try to avoid embarrassing information coming to light about his 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.520 dad and his own business dealings. What do you need 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.360 to know about that? Also, as we await President Trump's 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.680 sentencing on July eleventh, will Judge Matron try to send 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.680 him to jail. I mean, we've already seen democrats take 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.160 it this far, so what should we expect from that 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.360 and what does the appeals process look like for President Trump? 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.920 We're going to get into all of that with Andy McCarthy. 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.720 He is a best selling author, contributing editor at the 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.759 National Review, and a fellow at the National Review Institute. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.360 He's a Fox News contributor, and most importantly, he's a 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.480 former chief Assistant US Attorney. This is someone who's dedicated 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.839 his life to the rule of law, dedicated his career 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.280 to it. So what does he think about the justice 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.720 system now? After following the Trump trial so closely and 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.840 following this so closely, we have so much to dig 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.600 into with Andy McCarthy. His analysis is always so smart. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.640 I learned so much from him. I hope you do 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:03.440 as well, So stay tuned and named Carthy. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.240 Well, Andy, thanks so much for making the time. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.160 I know you've been really busy with all this legal 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.800 drama in the country, so you always give such great analysis. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.800 I just really appreciate you making the time for the show. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.520 Lisa, It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much. 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.040 You know so Andy, I assume you probably weren't surprised 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.720 with Hunter Biden being found guilty and all three federal 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:34.760 felony gun charge accounts. What does a typical sentencing look 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:35.919 for that look like for that. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:43.680 Well, for this kind of a charge, he's probably an 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.560 unusual defendant in that there is no evidence, at least 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.000 that I'm aware of, that he was trying to obtain 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:55.760 the gun for criminal purposes. I suspect, given that he 0:02:55.800 --> 0:03:01.960 has this bad narcotics issue that you know, he could 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.440 very well have decided that he needed to be armed, 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.880 given the dangerousness of some of the places that he 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.480 had to purchase drugs from, or that he chose to 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.880 purchase drugs from. But I don't think there's any evidence 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:21.320 of that in the record so far as I understand. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.400 He's an ineligible person. So you start from the premise 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.480 that he's not allowed to have the gun. But the 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.880 sentencing guidelines, and I should say, Lisa that the you know, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.280 a lot of the rhetoric in the media always talks 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:41.880 about the statutory range, which is huge. So you keep 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.240 reading again and again that Hunter's looking it up to 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.080 twenty five years in prison, But real sentencing litigation in 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.680 the federal government is really controlled by the sentencing guidelines, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:58.040 not the statutes. So the objective of the sentencing guidelines 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.840 is to take k which are brought under, say a 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:08.240 statute like the possession statute that Hunter violated, where it's 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.480 a where it's a ten year it's actually now a 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.119 fifteen year penalty, but in the when he violated it 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.039 was a ten year penalty. You know, it's zero to ten. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.520 There's no mandatory minimum, tends to maximum. So you're going 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.599 to have a you're going to have a wide range 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.120 of defendants, and some should be on the ten side 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.560 of the spectrum and some should be on the zero side, right, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:32.160 So what the sentencing guidelines try to do is bring 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:37.000 a little predictability to that range. So what they look 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.280 at is the typical factors that come up in an 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.839 offense like this, and then they look at personal factors, 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.560 which they call criminal history, so that they can establish 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:53.040 a criminal history category. And that's how you go on. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.600 There's a graph in the sentencing guidelines and it's like 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.919 you plot the offense factors against the criminal history and 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.760 that's where you come up with the same So he 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.839 doesn't have the kind of factors that exacerbate a sentence 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.000 like this. For example, he does not have a bunch 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:15.080 of prior felony convictions from which you would infer that 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.919 if he was trying to get a gun, it was 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.760 probably because he was up to no good. He's not 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.120 trying to obtain a gun that's extraordinarily destructive or at 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.719 least regarded as such under the guidelines. This is a 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:32.040 pretty conventional it's a cult Cobra thirty eight revolver, and 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.200 he may fit in the category of people who just 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.320 wanted to get the gun for sport and other legal purposes. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.760 So he's going to be pretty low in the offense 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.360 category computation. I the way I figure it, he could 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.720 be as low as a sentence of zero to six months. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.640 I see other people say, you know, fifteen to twenty 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.520 one months. But as you can tell, it's not going 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.680 to be very high. And he's in what we call 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.800 chrimeminal history category one because he doesn't have any prior 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:04.560 criminal convictions. 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:06.880 You can argue he probably should. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.760 Yeah, well, but but that's not that's different from different 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:15.039 from does you know, like even for example, he should 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.800 have gotten a dishonorable discharge from the military. Uh. And 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.599 of course somehow he got that job in the in 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.800 the Navy's press office even though he was too old, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.600 because his father just happened to be the vice president. 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:31.200 And then after he got booted for cocaine, uh, he 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.359 somehow managed not to get a dishonorable discharge while his 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.279 father was vice president. God knows how that possibly could 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:39.040 have happened, right. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.520 Weird, weird how that happens. 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:43.960 Yeah, but you know the fact is he's not like 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.080 a multiple felon. In fact, listening to the evidence, it 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:52.000 occurred to me that, you know, Haley Biden testified that 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.880 he's the one who got her hooked on crack, and 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.520 it seems to me that, you know, if you actually 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.560 charged him with what you could charge someone for distributing 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.960 narcotics to another person. You know, it doesn't have to 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:09.239 be a financial transaction. If I hand you illegal drugs, 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:14.520 I've distributed them. So may you could argue that that's 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.400 probably more serious than anything he got convicted of in 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.040 terms of what the you know, the punishment structure is 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.160 in federal law. But this is a you know, the 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:28.320 three different crimes under the sentencing guidelines, because they're all 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.000 related to the same transaction. They would be treated as 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.000 one offense, and I think he's going to have very 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.800 low guidelines, anywhere from zero to six range, which would 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.000 mean the judge doesn't have to impose a prison sentence 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.840 to fifteen to twenty one months. And the only other 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.280 thing I'd say about at LISTA is it's important to 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.320 note that judges don't have to follow the sentencing guidelines, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.120 but they tend to at least to approximate it. So 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.200 it's a much more reliable barometer for us than the 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:03.160 statutory range, which is very wide. And the other thing is, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:08.800 in my experience, sentencing is the hardest thing that judges do, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.280 and they tend to and I think this is a 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.680 very human thing. I think they tend to come to 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.800 it with the idea that just being convicted by a 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.360 jury of your peers, or admitting guilt in court, there's 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.080 a stigma attached to that that is in and of 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:33.920 itself punishment, and therefore they tend to sentence at the 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:38.960 low range of whatever the guidelines are. And you can 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.520 understand that, you know, sentencing another human being. It's one 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.319 thing to say I really disagree with this person politically, 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.160 or I really hate what this person did that was 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.880 proved in my courtroom. But now it's up to you 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.719 to decide the course of another person's life. And that's 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:59.240 an awesome responsibility. And most of the time the judges are, 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:05.240 you know, reasonably lenient. I'm not saying ridiculously, so although 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.600 I've seen some of that too, well. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.280 I assume too. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:09.920 I mean, this is the judge who blew up the 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.520 Sweetheart deal, so she has demonstrated you know, independence and 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.960 I think fairness. I mean, I would assume being the 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:22.200 president's son has to play a role in sentencing as well, right, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.280 I mean that's you know, I mean, I would like 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.360 to think people are unbiased, but I would have to 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:28.520 imagine that plays a role. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.679 Well, if it didn't, there would be something wrong because 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.280 what the law says is that. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.280 They're not with Trump though that's the opposite direction. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.640 Yeah, yeah, well but it's a factor, right. The what 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.280 the law says is that a sentencing judge can take 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:50.320 any relevant factor into account in terms of whether it's 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:54.439 something that should make the sentence more severe or less severe. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.880 So you're supposed to be looking at the whole person, 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:01.679 the whole reason for looking at criminal history category. What 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.880 we mainly think about when we think about criminal history, 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:07.240 category is like how many priors does the guy have? 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.600 But in truth, what a sentencing judge does is size 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.960 up the entire individual. And what you're supposed to be 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:20.160 gauging in any sensible sentencing exercise is what's the likelihood 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.400 that in the future this person will recitivate, that he'll 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.320 continue to commit crimes, or is the likelihood that, you know, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.840 if he's found the straight and narrow, he'll live a productive, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.160 law abiding life and make a contribution to society. That's 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.920 why it's such a it's it's an awesome responsibility for 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.880 judges because those are very hard things to gauge, you know. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:47.720 And then now he's facing his tax trial next September fifth, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.880 facing three felony tax offenses and six misdemeanors. Probably got 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.720 lucky with that as well, given you know the scheme 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:59.280 of what iris whistleblowers have you know, expressed publicly about 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.720 how the doog has thwarted a lot of their attempts 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.200 to dig deeper and dig deeper into the Biden family 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:08.480 and potentially Joe Biden as well. What do you think 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.800 he's facing at that trial, and based off of the 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.640 evidence known how much trouble is he facing with that one. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.040 Well, he's got serious trouble, which is why he tried 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.319 to plead guilty. You know, the gun thing is one thing. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:27.000 They tried to make that disappear with a diversion arrangement, 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:31.880 even though really into Justice Department rules that offense shouldn't 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.000 have been subject to diversion. When I say diversion, that 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.720 means they divert the case out of the justice system 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:43.600 for an alternative resolution other than conviction in a legal proceeding, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.200 so you know, probation or community service or you know, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.120 just keeping your nose clean, that kind of thing. Whereas 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.800 the tax charges, he actually was ready to plead guilty 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.880 to two of them. Now, obviously he wanted to plead 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.679 guilty to them in the form misdemeanors, but the underlying 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:07.000 facts are the same. So the evidence against him is 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.959 sufficiently daunting that he himself, even though he doesn't want 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.959 to plead guilty to everything, was willing to plead guilty 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.520 to this. On the other hand, as you point out, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.720 there's been a strategic delay in this case by the 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:25.760 Biden Justice Department and its trustee quote unquote special counsel 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:31.079 David Weiss, these are cases, you know, the evidence against Hunter, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.439 and the gun case was known completely to law enforcement. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.440 It happened on October twelfth, and they knew about it 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.880 by less than two weeks later. And the tax cases, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:46.360 the tax problems that Hunter has had have been well known, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:50.760 notorious for years and years, to the point where there 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.160 were leans on his house and all kinds of other stuff. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:58.319 So that's a long winded way of saying. Almost everything 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.840 David Weiss needed to know to file charges and convict 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.840 in these cases was known in twenty nineteen, and he 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.840 intentionally sat on his hands. There's no other way of 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.240 interpreting it. And in the tax case, that had the 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:17.400 real effect of chewing up what was available to be 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.640 charged under the Statute of limitations, And I think that 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.640 was done deliberately. Some of the worst tax offenses and 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.720 potentially other offenses, not just tax, but let's just talk 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.120 about tax, because that's what they charged. Some of the 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:36.720 worst of those crimes happened in twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.000 when Joe Biden was vice president and when Hunter was 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.080 raking in millions of dollars from Barismo, which was actually 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:49.960 obviously buying access to Joe Biden. So because of the 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.640 way Weiss handled this case, those charges can't be brought. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.880 He waited till the statute of limitations had passed, and 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.560 the way, just so people understand, the way prosecutors stop 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.440 the clock on the statute of limitations is you file charges. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.560 So what I'm saying is everything they needed to know 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.920 to charge these crimes was known in twenty nineteen. He 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:16.439 sat and did nothing for years, and he was trying 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.640 to do nothing in the way of like do nothing 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.280 and make the case go away. And then the whistleblower 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:27.360 agents courageously came forward and talk publicly about the Biden 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.960 Justice Department interference in the case. At that point it 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.680 was politically untenable to make the case just disappear. So 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.640 that's when they tried the sweetheart plea deal. And only 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.960 when that blew up did Weiss actually file these charges. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.280 But I think, Lisa, in the end, they're going to 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.680 win because to the extent that the idea here was 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.760 to make these cases go away, if you think about it. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.280 In the gun case, Hunter is not going to be 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:03.280 sentenced till probably August, and and he has an appellate 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.760 issue under the Second Amendment that I think the judge 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.240 will allow him to have bail pending appeal while he 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.920 litigates that, which means any execution of his sentence if 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.960 he gets a prison sentence, will not happen until sometime 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:22.000 next year, meaning after the election. The tax case, I 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:26.400 can't imagine in a million years the Biden, whether it's 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.640 Hunter Biden or the White House, are going to want 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.320 to have that trial happen in September, in the run 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.160 up to the election, when early voting has already started. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.720 I think he's got to plead that case out at 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.000 some point, but they will try to structure the plea 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.520 and schedule the plea so that he doesn't get sentenced 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.360 until after the election. So I think that the goal 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.120 here is to push everything past the election. And then 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.600 this ridiculous supposed vow that Joe Biden made that he 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.200 won't pardon his son. I don't think that will be 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.640 operative ten seconds after the polls close on November fifth, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.000 And if Biden wins the election, then he can bide 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.960 his time and if Hunter gets a prison sentence, he 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.320 can pardon them at that point. If he loses the election, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:19.080 then sometime between election day and inauguration day, Biden will 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.640 pardon his son. But you know the fact that Weiss 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.480 has delayed the way that he is delayed, I think 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.960 ensures that Hunter is not going to get the kind 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.480 of accountability and justice that people expect for people who 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.760 are put through the criminal justice system. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.360 We've got more with Anny McCarthy, but first, since the 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.320 terror attacks in October seventh, anti Semitism has been on 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.200 the rise, not just in Israel but here in the 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.960 US and around the world. That's why I have partnered 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.880 with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, and today 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.840 I'm coming to you, my audience, to ask that you 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.160 stand with us and IFCJ to raise your voice, just 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:02.080 as Oscar Schindler and Corey ten Boom did. 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Do you think that if Hunter did not 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.159 if he does not reach a plea deal, which I 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:44.879 think what you're saying makes a lot of sense, that 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:46.800 he would want to do that for political reasons, to 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.240 protect his dad, who has obviously protected him to a 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:54.000 great extent throughout his life and shielded him from, you know, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.600 probably a lot of consequences that he should have been facing. 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.640 But if he did not reach a plea deal, would 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.679 Joe Biden be exposed? 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.159 And what we would learn from the tax trial? Do 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:05.600 you think? 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.520 Yeah, this is why I don't think they can let 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:12.520 it go to trial. So Weiss, as I said to 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:17.280 somebody this morning, Weiss is the best defense lawyer that 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:22.720 Hunter has ever had. But his main objective in this investigation, 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.040 and the Biden Justice Department's objective has always been to 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.199 protect the president. That's first and foremost. They tried to 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.280 protect the president and bring Hunter along for the ride, 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:40.120 but that became politically undoable once the whistleblowers came forward. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.239 So even in prosecuting Hunter, they've kept the objective of 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.080 protecting the president front and center. So, for example, Weiss 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.840 writes finally a fifty six page indictment on the tax case, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:01.119 it doesn't mention President Biden, even though what the tax 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.000 case is about is the invasion of tax on income 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:10.040 that Hunter earned by peddling Joe Biden's political influence. So 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.840 Joe Biden is a central figure to the case, but 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.199 he's not discussed in the indictment. The other thing, Lisa, 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.760 that Weiss did here that I think people are going 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:21.879 to be reminded of, even though it escaped a lot 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.560 of people's attention at the time. Do you remember that 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:29.919 the Sweetheart plea deal had a statement of facts in it. Yes, 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.480 So I'm convinced, having read that a few times, that 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:39.280 this never happens with federal prosecutors by the way they 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:44.040 control the plea process, including what the defendant is going 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.119 to say. If you're giving somebody a plea deal, you 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.840 tell them this is what we expect you to admit to, 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.960 and if you don't admit to it, there's no deal, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.399 and we'll go to trial. So in this process, it 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.280 seems to me that Weiss allowed Hunter's lawyers to write 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.000 the statement of effect, which the government then stipulated to, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.199 meaning they agreed that that would be the statement of 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.960 facts that was presented to the court in connection with 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.439 the case. If you read that statement of facts, what 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.719 they say is that Hunter earned a lot of money 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:20.840 from these overseas associates and deals because he was a 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.119 high end lawyer and businessman. You don't get any sense 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.520 reading it that he earned it because he was a 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.679 ne'er do well drug addle failure who was cashing in 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.240 on his father's political influence, which is a lot closer 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.760 to the truth. So the defense is going to try 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.520 to say that Weiss is stuck with that version of 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.080 events because he already agreed to it in connection with 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:50.320 the POLA. But one way or the other, I don't 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.439 think the Biden people can afford in the run up 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.439 to the election to have a trial that's about Hunter 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:02.520 basically monetizing his father's political influence and then not paying 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:07.720 his fair share on that right. So I don't think 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:10.840 he'll I don't think he'll go to trial. And when 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.440 you say if they can't strike a plea deal. This 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.359 is how this is how cynical I've become about this. 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:18.199 I'm right there with you. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.360 Why don't they try If he's going to be pardoned 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.840 anyway at the end of the rainbow, and he's never 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.840 really going to do a day in jail on this, 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.919 why not write before the election, or reasonably before the election, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.879 like August September, announce a plea deal where Hunter is 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.520 going to plead guilty to two felonies, and the Biden 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.080 Justice Department, like they've done the last twenty four hours, 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.840 can run around, beat their chest and say, see, we 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.880 prosecuted the president's son without fear or favor. In the meantime, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.240 they delayed it so long that he won't get sentenced 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.080 until after the election, and then his father will pardon them. 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.400 But at least before the election, they'll try to make 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.000 it look like this was a real serious, you know, 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:03.000 hard ass prosecution, and it'll all be play acting. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.160 I think that is probably one hundred percent what's going 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.199 to happen. Unfortunately, you know, I think we've realized that 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.520 justice is not equal in America these days. I also 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:17.560 wanted to ask you President Trump is facing his sentencing 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:22.400 on July eleventh. I am very concerned that he will 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.080 either get thrown in prison or under house arrest, that 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.520 they're going to use this to try to sideline him 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:29.040 from the campaign trail. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:31.200 What are your. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:35.000 Thoughts on that, and then also what does his appeals 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:37.880 process look like and are there any ways for him 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.719 to expedite that in a meaningful way ahead of the election. 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.120 So I think he's going to get a prison sentence, 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:48.840 but he's not going to be sent to prison. I 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.879 think that he will get bail pending appeal. In New York, 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:57.240 it's a non violent crime, you know. I mean, it's 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.200 when I say it's a crime, I'm you know, I'm 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.359 just reading off like a judgment docket. In terms of 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.280 whether it's really a crime. I think if you asked 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.919 any twenty people randomly on the street what he was 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.240 convicted of, they wouldn't be able to tell you. But 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:12.920 let's assume like we have a crime that he turned 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.600 into thirty four crimes and he's going to be sentenced. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.840 I think that Merchan, who has shown himself to be 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.919 like a progressive performance artist on this case, notwithstanding that 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.320 it's against the code of ethics in New York to 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.240 sit on a case if you've given political contrib they're 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.440 not supposed to give political contributions at all. 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:37.960 So to group Stop Republicans, I mean, that's the group 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.800 that's one of the politically stop Republicans and Joe Biden, 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.919 it's like that tells the story, you know. 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.040 But yeah, all right, Agres. 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.040 And no, you're right. And even if his even if 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:53.119 his daughter wasn't making a very lucrative living as a 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:58.360