WEBVTT - Ep. 325: Render - Stone Points, Big Game Tattoos, and Pablo 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.200 My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:25.720 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:31.280 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:36.520 American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.280 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:49.040 So there's been some emails floating around. This is the 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.480 Bear Grease Render podcast. The Bear Grease Render, I've heard 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.360 it is where we gather up a group of people 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.640 and I'm going to introduce some esteemed esteemed guests in 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.640 just a minute. But I feel like this is pertinent 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.679 right now. Is there's been some emails floating around from 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.840 the powers that be. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:10.959 Mean spirited emails or. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:19.480 Well no, just business emails from meat eater. Okay, of 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.920 the render was never videoed. None of this was ever videoed. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.800 But we've been born into a time where things rapidly moved, 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.679 so all of a sudden we needed video and which 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.440 is great. So we film here in my office. This 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.759 is the global headquarters. At one time is the global 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.040 headquarters of Bear Honey magazine. Now it's the global headquarters 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.000 of Bear Grease also been called meat Eater South. And 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.080 there's been a couple of little clues popping around in 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.720 different places in my life about this office and the 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.000 way it looked. The first clue was there was an 0:01:55.120 --> 0:02:01.800 article that was written about me in Farm Farm Bureau 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.040 magazine and insurance companies like magazine, and this guy came 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.840 here and interviewed me and we had just a great time. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:12.160 I loved the guy. The first paragraph of his introduction 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.040 to me is he basically. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.200 Says in three different ways, he says. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:24.000 I'm standing in Clay Newcombe's cluttered office, which is like 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.919 the man's mind. You know. I think he was trying 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.359 to pay me a compliment, but I. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.239 Was just like, sounds a little backhanded. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.720 I was like cluttered, and I was like, this office 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.080 looks exactly the way I want it to. Okay, we're 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.600 getting to what you now miss because the office has 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.799 been a little decluttered. Well, it's not long after that 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.639 article came out. Not long after that article came out, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.280 the powers that me at Meat Eater may not have 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.680 said the office looks a little cluttered, to which in 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.280 my heart I replied, the office looks exactly the way 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.320 Clay wants it to. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.200 I believe the words that I uttered for you were 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.080 that Clay like has the office exactly? 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:10.720 Yes. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:16.920 And it was beautiful, Pablo, it was perfect. It was 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.080 like a museum. And here's some of the things that 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:25.400 we cleaned up like that museum. Yeah, and you'll no 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.639 longer get to see this anymore. 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.639 Like if your hoard or great grandma had a museum. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:36.040 This this deer horn was once on display right up there, yep. Okay. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:37.600 And there was a there was an episode that we 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.160 did a few a few episodes back called The bird Hunter, 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.400 and it was the story of Lew and Nukem. And 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.760 at the end of the story, I told about the 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.480 last hunt that me and Lewin Nukem, my grandfather went 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:52.320 on together, and I picked up this shed horn while 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.080 we were hunting, and I showed it to him and 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.680 I just wrote on it that you know. Soon after 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.880 that day, I wrote Clam Paps Nukem Bird Hunt two 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.880 thousand and two. I didn't know that would be the 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.800 last time I'd hunt with him, but it was. So 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.680 that's what you're missing. You missed it, Pablo, Okay, that's 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.280 one thing you'd miss me. The other thing that you'd 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:17.240 miss was. At one time I had my collection of 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:22.400 baculums right up there in the corner. This is not 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.960 this is not all the vaculums that I've collected, but 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.360 this is a lot of them that there are raccoon vaculums. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.720 And I have a raccoon vaculum that ought to be 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.599 I have a raccoon. I have a raccoon vaculum that 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.599 ought to be in the Smithsonian. Look at that it 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.840 was broken and rehealed. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.240 Do you see that finds a way? See? 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.800 Look, that's the way a normal raccoon vaculum looks. That 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.719 one has been broken and healed like a collar bone 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:57.920 that wasn't set right. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.360 And a baculum is a baculum. You have to look 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:01.920 that one up. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.480 Yeah what it is? But it's a bone. And these 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.440 are these are black bears. No, yeah, these are black 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.080 bear bones. Two of these came from Roy Clark and 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.440 East Tennessee. The first time I hunted with Roy Clark, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.120 one of the Bear Greece Hall of Famers plot man 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.760 in East Tennessee. We killed two boars in two days, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:26.440 and right before I left, he had been whittling on 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.360 two vaculums and he gave them to me. This one 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.920 came out of the Boone and Crockett bear that I killed. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.960 There's a correlation between baculum size and skull size, i'd say, 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.200 But that's what that's what they're missing, the people because 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.159 I had to declutter my office. 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.680 What is clutter to begin with? Clutter? No, it doesn't 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.040 even exist exactly. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.400 And then and then the other thing that you would 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.120 miss is my stone point collection, which I'm very proud of. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.839 Most of these stone points I found in my yard. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.280 And turns out Pablo, who I'm going to introduce, is 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:08.800 a big stone point man. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.640 Oh man, it's awful. Yeah, once you get into it, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.320 it's over with. Yeah, but those are beautiful. And when 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:17.840 he's in the display. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.280 Yeah, you would have seen them. I wouldn't have had 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.719 to dug them out. And they're just all look how 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.960 sad they look in that zip Like, No, can you 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.960 tell that that is a celebration of life? No? No, 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.279 because because you know there's a lot of great stuff 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:35.520 in there. I mean, I can show you all the 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:36.760 points right now. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.479 You look like a kid with a bag of marbles 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.080 or something. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.400 Yeah, some of these I found when I was a kid. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.920 This one right here, I have written on it blue bucket, 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:52.359 Howard County. Uh, it's okay, there's there's nothing there to see, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.360 y'all can all go there. I picked that up when 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.120 I was a junior in high school after I had 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.280 shot my a spike buck with my bow. Was track 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.719 it was blood trailing the deer and picked up it's 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.080 it's a broken fragment. And then this one, uh, it's 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.680 it's it's come off. But I found this stone point 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.880 when I was trailing a hog when I was a 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.760 junior in high school. I dug a big hole in 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:25.680 the ground, poured some corn in the ground, skipped class, went, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.960 no trail cameras or anything. But it was like a 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.280 couple of It was a couple of days after I 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:35.480 had poured corn in this hole and I had I 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.680 had put it down in like that. It was like 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.640 a big river bottom and there was a floodplain where 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.800 the where the topography just dropped off and so basically 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.040 it's flat and then there's like a ten foot drop 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.720 and then it was flat again. I put the hole 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.040 like right over the lip down in the second flat part, okay, 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.920 and then I scratched out the leaves for about thirty 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:06.920 yards back. I skipped school, slipped in there, walked on 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:11.120 my leafless path, and popped up over the rise and 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.800 what would you guess happened? There was a giant hog 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.160 with his head in that hole. And there's Clay with 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.880 his bow seventeen years old Matthew's high Country ex caliber 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.560 sixty five pounds. He told me I could go. I 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:30.360 got permission. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:31.720 Wow, that's good. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.000 Yeah, he told me I could skip school. And I 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:39.000 draw back and shoot that sucker right in the shoulder 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.520 and he literally shrugs it off. The arrow falls out 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.600 onto the ground, and the hog runs off while I'm 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.520 I do my due diligence to try to find the hog, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.720 and I mean he was not to be found, you know. Uh, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.839 And that I found that stone point, all these memories lost. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:02.000 Yep, all these memories regret resigned to a ziplock bag. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.840 Yeah, welcome to the bear gray Surrender. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.160 Though I have, is that the first time you've you've 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:12.520 ever been told that you are somewhat cluttered? 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:13.280 Uh? 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.080 Think think think smart. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.720 I mean, I don't know if it's the first time. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.440 It's kind of like, you know what Gandalf said on 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.280 Lord of the Rings I hate to quote Lord of 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.320 the Rings, but it's a great movie. When he said 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.000 a wizard is never late. He arrives exactly when he 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:31.560 wants to. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.719 I think that there's been a lot of conversations in 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.360 the Lucome Home about Clay's propensity towards clutter, and I 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.960 have always received the same message, this looks exactly like 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.360 I want it to look. You know this, this has 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:46.440 been a topic of conversation. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.079 It's like my wife going into my shop. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.360 It well, listen, there's actually I've recently read some interesting, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.920 interesting studies. I don't have much value to this podcast, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.360 but I think it's interesting. I think it could help 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.920 you have a better strong marriages here. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.480 If we were less cluttered, well. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.000 It might help. You know. They actually did cortisol tests, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.040 like the stress formone they assessed us, and they found 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:16.520 that clutter in a home actually does produce more stress 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.320 on average in women than men. 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.320 What if we have designated spots where we can just 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:23.240 keep our clutter. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.880 Yeah, I've got no problem. It was fun, though, to 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.200 watch Clay read that article, because you know, it wasn't 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.520 a total surprise to me that someone wrote that. And 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.840 I think your office is beautiful, a great museum. I 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.600 love to take people in it. But when Clay read 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.199 it out loud, I could I could see his face 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.679 just kind of drop and he's like what and then 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.720 he read because it wasn't one time it was in 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.679 the first three sentence, mentioned a couple times different ways 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.760 of saying it was cluttered or kind of haphazardly put together, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.240 and Clay was just astonished. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.160 It was a great article the first time it ever 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:02.240 entered my mind. But Michael Lewis says that the reason 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.600 great writers are great is because they don't care about 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.160 the reputation of the person they're writing about. Like, if 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:12.000 you wrote an article about yourself, Pablo, you would kind 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:17.040 of you You probably wouldn't do anything detrimental, but it 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.400 also wouldn't be as interesting to the reader potentially. But 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.440 if the guy that wrote the article about me wrote 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.760 an article about you, he might he would like, tell 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.120 us the real stuff that we really want to know. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.600 That might be you know, And Michael Lewis says that's 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.319 the key to writing. It's like he's like, Hey, I'm 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.600 gonna interview, but I don't care about your reputation. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.760 He's pretty risky. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.480 So Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. We have a 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.600 very esteemed guest from the state of Alabama. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.000 Roll Tide. 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:58.200 We've got Pablo Escaval Alabama, and you guys would know 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:03.720 Pablo from the last Bear Grease podcast. And uh man, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.440 thank you so much for coming to Arkansas. 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.160 Man, no, man, it's my pleasure's an honor to be 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.880 here with y'all. So I really appreciate this opportunity. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:11.520 Yeah, a lot. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.680 So we were walking down the road and our neighbor, 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.120 me and Pablo walked down the road to move the mules. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.040 I got the mules grazing out on some leads and 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.679 we met my neighbor who were in. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.640 Like thirty seconds thirty seconds. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.560 Of meeting him, greeted him warmly and in the way 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.480 we do here. But then she was like, oh, I 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.680 see you're an Alabama fan. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:39.640 I'm sorry, yeah, because I just politely reply. He happens. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.680 He said, he became an Alabama fan in the Nick 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.960 saban era and got used to winning national time and 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.600 then and then now. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.760 Yeah, because here's the thing. When I came in, my 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.520 stepdad was like, you got to pick up a. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.520 Team Alabama at Alabama. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.040 Yeah, it's like Alabama or r which when you're picking, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.120 and I was like, well, let me let me watch 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:08.960 him playing. Within the first season, Alabama is mauling everybody. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.600 On the SEC winning and I was like, it's no brainer, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.240 I said, roll time. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.960 And of course, you know, I fell in love with him, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:23.440 you know, like like every Alabamia does, and you have 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.240 Nick Saban rather so we're just winning championships left and right, 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.120 and suddenly he's over and I realized, how it spoll 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.640 I've been for the past wall ten. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.600 Years, twelve years, how you feel like the rest. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:35.800 Of us is? 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.680 Yeah, And now I'm like, oh man, this is this 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.600 is what Auburn fans feels like. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:46.160 You know, I'm like, just now, how long is Alabama 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.040 not been like. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.240 Just like two years? Last two years? 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.200 Have you been that good? 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:52.520 Yeah? 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:59.840 I remember we lost a championship against LSU again some 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.240 up north that I can't even remember. And then the 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.880 past few years it's been kind of like a bone 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.480 dry okay, you know. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.560 And always always thought it's interesting and maybe probably some 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.160 of the states with smaller populations would understand this, but 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.480 like in Arkansas, we have one high level Division one school. 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.320 So whether you're in the southeast corner of Arkansas, the northwest, 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.520 anywhere you go, there's this unifying factor of the your 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.520 Razorback fan. Like, without question, even though there's a lot 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.320 of colleges here, there's smaller Division two and even lower 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.920 level Division one colleges here, but they those guys are 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.680 Razorback fans. I mean, you know, like like we're all 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:47.280 Razorback fans. Go to Alabama, which Alabama has a lot 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.440 more people than we have. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.360 How they do it's like five millions. 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.720 Yeah, we've got about three. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.800 Okay, so just a little bit more, but it's still. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.680 But you got to pick a team when you show up, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.880 when you get your card. In Alabama, they're like pick 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.120 a team pretty much. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.640 Yeah, you got to pick a team. Yeah. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.640 It's like so old, he cheerful, and I don't know 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.680 and now, yeah, I'm die hard with Alabama. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:13.280 That's it. Yeah. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.640 You can't, No, I can't be a fair weather for Yeah, 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:16.320 I ain't doing it. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.120 So yeah, do you do you know the roll Tide 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:26.280 Willie guy? Have you ever heard that? Okay, he he's 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.800 on social media. It's it's called Role Tide Willie and he's, uh, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:37.080 he's an Alabama fan and he's a he's a he's 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:43.000 Willie's probably like late fifties, sixty maybe, And the story 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:48.400 is like a Cinderella story of social media influence. And 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.040 I was sucked in from the beginning. And there's a 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.880 few there's a few qualms that I have a lot 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.800 of alcohol, which I just you know, I'm not. I'm 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:02.520 not into as much alcohol as they promote on right, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.520 I'll just say that at the beginning. But basically, there 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:12.120 was this guy that videoed Willie, who was just a 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.040 guy in Alabama, barefoot, sitting in the front of this 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.400 old Alabama gas station. And and this guy pulls up 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:24.160 and videos Willy, who's in like cut off shorts, barefoot. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.880 And I think they knew each other. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.120 They knew each other, but I don't think there was 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.960 a plan. Yeah, they knew each other, but I don't 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:31.480 think there was a plan for them to be like 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:32.760 become well known. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.480 No, Willy was just a big fan and he he's just. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.560 This guy and rural Alabama. And and Chad goes, hey, Willy, 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.640 how about that game tomorrow? And Willy just goes, oh, Alabama, 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.520 we don't care about nothing but the tide roll tide. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.240 And he starts stopping around and yelling and the video 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.840 goes viral, and long story short, like three years later, 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.400 they have a pretty big social media presence, and it's 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.800 pretty it's pretty funny most of the time, you know, 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.280 from Rednecks and Little Little Yeah. Yeah. I like those guys. 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.440 I do, but just gonna I'd have Willie on Bear Grease. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:16.480 If we could get him up here. So I got 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.719 to give credit where credit is due. I was listening 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:23.439 to the Southern Outdoorsman podcast with Andrew and Jacob and 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.199 it was back a couple of months ago, and I 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.600 just clicked on the episode that was up and it 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.080 had your name in the title, which you know, I didn't. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.359 It didn't register that that would be significant. Just I 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.560 remember seeing Pablo, which that's not a name you often 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.320 see in honey here in this country, and uh. And 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.640 I started listening to it, and pretty quickly that Pablo 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.440 starts telling his story and I was just like, this 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:59.399 guy's hilarious. And and you described it to me today, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.359 because everybody would have pretty much heard the stories that 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.320 you told on that podcast, they pretty much heard on 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.520 barg Grease, just kind of like your life story. You 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.160 started by saying I was born in Costa Rica and 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.920 we you know, did all this stuff with sling shots 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:21.080 and shooting birds and you started telling your story and 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:25.360 then you know, anyway, I just was like, we got 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:26.520 to get the sky on Burgrease. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.320 Yeah, that was pretty cool. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:34.720 The opportunity with Andrew and Jacob, even though we live 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:37.160 like within a couple. I did most and now we're 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.399 in twenty minutes. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.480 They're like, we got to do a podcast. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.560 And I was like, yeah, man, it took like two 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.919 three years, you know, timing wise, and that they we 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.160 did it, and uh, we've done it. That day Jacob 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.520 gaves me. He gave me a hat from Southern Endorsement. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.800 It's an orange hat. I was going haunting next day. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.119 He said, keep it up with you because that's the 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:02.720 lucky hat. Well, I kind of like superstitious with this hat. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:04.560 My wife bought. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.400 Me an orange hat about twelve years ago on Walmart. 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.320 It's the same hat is destroyed, but that's that's my 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.119 lucky hat. That's the one that I wear. So I 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.840 put the other one inside of my pack. 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:19.440 I go hunting. Next morning. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.639 I killed the biggest bug that ever killed in Alabama, 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:23.879 has six twenty in the morning. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:26.800 No, I didn't wear a hat. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:31.320 Okay, yeah, okay, and wearing my lucky hat with the 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:36.200 other lucky hat and yeah, and I text him and 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:37.120 I was like bug down. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:39.000 They're like no way. And I said, I for the 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.520 God and I send them a pictures. They're like no way. 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.679 You know. So it was it was pretty cool. It was. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.120 It was a pretty good kind of like experience back 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:52.239 to back. So and here we are and here we are. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:56.800 And actually before I forget, you just mentioned it a 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:03.399 oh that's mightiest look at that. That's the minded presentation. Okay, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.840 So this is this is a slingshot frame made out 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.240 of a coffee plant. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:11.399 Right, coffee plant. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.520 Yes, I did this thing when I was like sixteen 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:16.960 or seventeen years old. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:17.800 Wow. 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.480 The tape is the one that it wasn't there when 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.359 I could. So that tape has been there for like 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.560 nineteen or twenty years. And man, you feel how light 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.280 it is? Yeah, now try to squeeze that. 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.160 I'm afraid of breaking n A one. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.280 It's semi flexible, but yet s thirty sturdy. That's what 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:36.679 coffee it is for, you know. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.000 So guys that are making sling shots where there's coffee plants. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.320 They know this is a good good plant. Yeah, it's 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:44.600 good wood, Yeah it is. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:48.760 It's very solid, very light, very solid, jet flexible enough 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:50.119 nice for it. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.679 So what would you put on the So if you 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:57.600 haven't listened to the episode Pablo, he he made his 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:00.800 I was going to say, make his living. That metaphorical. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.320 They were sling shot masters. You said that. You said 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.320 that guys could like shoot like forty fifty yards. 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.359 And he'd an aluminum can with rocks that. Now I 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.359 was in one of them, but I have friends that 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:20.560 they were unrealistically good. It's just pure talent, like seriously 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.680 pure talent. I was good, but but those guys were 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.320 like beast. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:25.800 You know. 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:30.800 When you told me that story, it made me think about, Uh, 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.879 I do instinctive shooting and archery, and me and my 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.600 son Bear are fixing the go to Alaska and we're 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.560 using these primitive self bows that he made himself, and 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.560 you're you're shooting them instinctively, you know, and it's and 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.880 it's it's hard to be accurate. But I would imagine 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.879 if ever since we were born, if that's the only 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:58.200 thing that we could harvest meet with, and we'd shot 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.080 bows our whole life are whole life, and there was 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:05.359 that much at stake, we would be in a whole 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.040 different category of archers. I mean, I just think about 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:09.800 like you guys, you told me, you know, you didn't 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.399 have guns, you couldn't even shoot bb guns and all 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.760 this stuff in Costa Rica, and I mean these guys 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:16.840 were just I mean. 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:18.680 It pretty much every day. 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.800 Yeah, and you keep a bag of rugs like the 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.119 ones that you wanted. This is gonna sound crazy, but 0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.920