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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman. This is a production of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where

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Speaker 1: we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear,

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Speaker 1: American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed

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Speaker 1: to be as rugged as the place as we explore.

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Speaker 1: So there's been some emails floating around. This is the

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Speaker 1: Bear Grease Render podcast. The Bear Grease Render, I've heard

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Speaker 1: it is where we gather up a group of people

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to introduce some esteemed esteemed guests in

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Speaker 1: just a minute. But I feel like this is pertinent

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Speaker 1: right now. Is there's been some emails floating around from

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Speaker 1: the powers that be.

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Speaker 2: Mean spirited emails or.

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Speaker 1: Well no, just business emails from meat eater. Okay, of

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Speaker 1: the render was never videoed. None of this was ever videoed.

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Speaker 1: But we've been born into a time where things rapidly moved,

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Speaker 1: so all of a sudden we needed video and which

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Speaker 1: is great. So we film here in my office. This

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Speaker 1: is the global headquarters. At one time is the global

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Speaker 1: headquarters of Bear Honey magazine. Now it's the global headquarters

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Speaker 1: of Bear Grease also been called meat Eater South. And

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Speaker 1: there's been a couple of little clues popping around in

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Speaker 1: different places in my life about this office and the

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Speaker 1: way it looked. The first clue was there was an

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Speaker 1: article that was written about me in Farm Farm Bureau

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Speaker 1: magazine and insurance companies like magazine, and this guy came

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Speaker 1: here and interviewed me and we had just a great time.

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Speaker 1: I loved the guy. The first paragraph of his introduction

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Speaker 3: Says in three different ways, he says.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing in Clay Newcombe's cluttered office, which is like

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Speaker 1: the man's mind. You know. I think he was trying

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Speaker 2: Was just like, sounds a little backhanded.

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Speaker 1: I was like cluttered, and I was like, this office

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Speaker 1: getting to what you now miss because the office has

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Speaker 1: been a little decluttered. Well, it's not long after that

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Speaker 1: article came out. Not long after that article came out,

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Speaker 1: the powers that me at Meat Eater may not have

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Speaker 1: said the office looks a little cluttered, to which in

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Speaker 1: my heart I replied, the office looks exactly the way

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Speaker 2: I believe the words that I uttered for you were

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Speaker 2: that Clay like has the office exactly?

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And it was beautiful, Pablo, it was perfect. It was

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Speaker 1: like a museum. And here's some of the things that

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Speaker 1: we cleaned up like that museum. Yeah, and you'll no

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Speaker 3: Like if your hoard or great grandma had a museum.

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Speaker 1: This this deer horn was once on display right up there, yep. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And there was a there was an episode that we

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Speaker 1: and it was the story of Lew and Nukem. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you're missing. You missed it, Pablo, Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: one thing you'd miss me. The other thing that you'd

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Speaker 1: miss was. At one time I had my collection of

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Speaker 4: Do you see that finds a way? See?

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Speaker 1: Look, that's the way a normal raccoon vaculum looks. That

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Speaker 1: Yeah what it is? But it's a bone. And these

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Speaker 1: There's a correlation between baculum size and skull size, i'd say,

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Speaker 1: But that's what that's what they're missing, the people because

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Speaker 1: I had to declutter my office.

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Speaker 4: What is clutter to begin with? Clutter? No, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: And then and then the other thing that you would

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Speaker 1: And turns out Pablo, who I'm going to introduce, is

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Speaker 5: Oh man, it's awful. Yeah, once you get into it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would have seen them. I wouldn't have had

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Speaker 1: because because you know there's a lot of great stuff

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Speaker 2: You look like a kid with a bag of marbles

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of these I found when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: This one right here, I have written on it blue bucket,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he told me I could skip school. And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the bear gray Surrender.

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Speaker 3: Though I have, is that the first time you've you've

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Speaker 3: Think think think smart.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's the first time.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's been a lot of conversations in

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Speaker 3: have always received the same message, this looks exactly like

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Speaker 2: It's like my wife going into my shop.

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Speaker 3: It well, listen, there's actually I've recently read some interesting,

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Speaker 2: If we were less cluttered, well.

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Speaker 3: It might help. You know. They actually did cortisol tests,

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Speaker 3: like the stress formone they assessed us, and they found

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Speaker 2: What if we have designated spots where we can just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got no problem. It was fun, though, to

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Speaker 1: It was a great article the first time it ever

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Speaker 1: the reputation of the person they're writing about. Like, if

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Speaker 1: you wrote an article about yourself, Pablo, you would kind

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Speaker 1: of you You probably wouldn't do anything detrimental, but it

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Speaker 1: also wouldn't be as interesting to the reader potentially. But

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Speaker 4: He's pretty risky.

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Speaker 1: So Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. We have a

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Speaker 1: very esteemed guest from the state of Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Roll Tide.

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Speaker 1: We've got Pablo Escaval Alabama, and you guys would know

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Speaker 1: Pablo from the last Bear Grease podcast. And uh man,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to Arkansas.

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Speaker 5: Man, no, man, it's my pleasure's an honor to be

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Speaker 5: here with y'all. So I really appreciate this opportunity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 1: So we were walking down the road and our neighbor,

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Speaker 1: me and Pablo walked down the road to move the mules.

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Speaker 1: I got the mules grazing out on some leads and

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Speaker 1: we met my neighbor who were in.

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Speaker 4: Like thirty seconds thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Of meeting him, greeted him warmly and in the way

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Speaker 5: is that? And my heart was broken. I was like, man,

440
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: that's a perfect sling shot. Anyways, I was talking to

441
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: him one of these days and he's like, oh, man,

442
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 5: let me show you something that I got. Now, you

443
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: got to keep the mind.

444
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: He's twenty three now, and he goes and open a

445
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: couple of cabinets and pull some stuff that I gave

446
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: him when he was a child, like a letter, you know,

447
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 4: when we were apart and I used to write him letters.

448
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: We're like, man, you gotta stay strong and this and that.

449
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, that's so cool.

450
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 5: This letters dating back to like seven o six, A

451
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 5: big brother riding to a little brother.

452
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: Right.

453
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: And then he's like, oh, what I got too? And

454
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 5: he pulled this out. I don't forgot about it.

455
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: Oh that one?

456
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: Yes, So you thought he didn't care anything about it.

457
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 5: No, I didn't even know where it was because I forgot.

458
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 5: Like I said, this thing is like twenty years old.

459
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: And I say, Indian giver, you know, yeah, And.

460
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: I said no, I'm keeping it. He was mad and

461
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 5: he's like, no, I'm gonna call mom, And I said

462
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 5: color you know. So Mom came, you know, and she's

463
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 5: taking everybody's point of view and I was like, Mom,

464
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 5: I cut it.

465
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess it's like serious, this isn't a joke.

466
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Like he was really upset.

467
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was too, because I was like, how

468
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 5: come that's that's been inside of that cabinet instead of

469
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: being on display, you know.

470
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 4: So my mom was like.

471
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

472
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: You hear that, folks.

473
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: If you're listening to audio, that's all the stone points

474
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: that you're not seeing anything.

475
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 5: There's there's no such a thing as cluttering, you know,

476
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 5: it's always display memories. Anyways, my mom is like, yeah,

477
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 5: you know, they're going to have to settle it. And

478
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 5: I said, let's flip a coin. And I said, let's

479
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 5: flip a coin and if I if you flip heads,

480
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 5: I win. If I flip tails, I win. And he

481
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 5: went for it. He wasn't paying attention, you know what

482
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 5: I mean.

483
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Oh you said both ways you win?

484
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. He's like okay, and just finding this

485
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: out now.

486
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 5: He knew right away, and my mom was like, you

487
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 5: should have don't pay attention.

488
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: Went yeah. Mom was like she was like, I'm not

489
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: getting in between this, you know.

490
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 5: And he came home with me and I was and

491
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 5: he's on display on my yeah, just laying right there.

492
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

493
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: Yeah. So crazy. I want to remove the tape.

494
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I just don't you know,

495
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 5: like I said, it's been here for so long.

496
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't know.

497
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: It looks it looks like you put it on there yesterday.

498
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. And man, I mean if you peel you can

499
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 4: see Luke you see how easy Yeah, the pill, how

500
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: easy she goes. Yeah, it's just toasted, you know. So

501
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: don't do it now, Pablo.

502
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: In Costa Rica, you said you you've worked on a

503
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: coffee farm, well for a little while.

504
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was usually like summertime, high school, in school

505
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 5: and all that stuff.

506
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: You go to the coffee hills and work up there.

507
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: What do you do you picking coffee?

508
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,239
Speaker 4: Yes, picking coffee green? They're green being ed, no red.

509
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 5: You want the reddish and kind of like no more

510
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 5: than fifty percent green on the on the on the bean.

511
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: Okay, so you can.

512
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Did you have a sense of where that coffee was

513
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: going that you were picking in Costa Rica?

514
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: No, I mean you just get it and you imagine

515
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: that this is kind of like for national consumption, if

516
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: we can say like that, but some of that coffee

517
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 5: gets exported.

518
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: It's coffee big in Costa Rica.

519
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, you know, and and especially with the

520
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: altitudes and all that stuff, you get these really rich.

521
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: Bold like Arabic flavors. Uh, it's it's really good. Why Arabic?

522
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: Why arab I guess the seeds that.

523
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: They came from.

524
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: Maybe at least.

525
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 5: I have no idea if he has to deal with

526
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 5: without location kind of thing or with a screen.

527
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a little I know you're not a

528
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: coffee guy, but I'm gonna bring this up because I've

529
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: just never around people that have been around coffee. So

530
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: you're the closest person to receive this.

531
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: No, I drink anywhere.

532
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: That they make coffee. They always make it sound like

533
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: it's something special, just like a vineyard. Like if you

534
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: ever hear somebody talk about a vineyard, they're like, oh,

535
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: this is the nicest vineyard in Italy, and it scales

536
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: though it comes down to like, this is the nicest

537
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: vineyard in this county, and then it scales too, this

538
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: is the nicest vineyard in this neighborhood. I mean, like

539
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: people kind of carry a chip on their shoulder. I

540
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: feel like regions with coffee do the same thing. You see, Yeah,

541
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: you feel me. It's always the best of something.

542
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: I want to say.

543
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: I'm almost sure Brazil is the number one in quality

544
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: I mean quantity worldwide.

545
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: Okay, but I want.

546
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: To sit I'm almost positive the Costa Rica is the

547
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: number one in quality. Really, Yes, I want to say that,

548
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: like a very expensive coffee. Oh wow, Like we can

549
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 5: double check this with Google.

550
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Or you're confirming exactly what I'm saying.

551
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Yes, I believe.

552
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody in fact check it the rest

553
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: of my life. I'm going to be like, Costa Rica

554
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: is the best coffee in the world. My friend Pablo

555
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: told me.

556
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, But at the end of the day, it's all

557
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 5: about opinion, because I could say it. The Razorbacks are

558
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 5: the best college team in the world, you know, and

559
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 5: even though.

560
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: They're not, I don't think that can be quantified.

561
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: Wikipedia just kidding.

562
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Hey, so you told us about Costa Rica to some

563
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: degree in the podcast, but not not a lot. Like,

564
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: so you lived in Costa Rica till you're twenty one

565
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: years old?

566
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: Yes, describe like the the.

567
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: Topography, the vegetation of Costa Rica, Like how big is

568
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Costa Rica?

569
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: Costa Rica is I want to say this. I want

570
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: to say, we have to check this fact again. But

571
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 5: I want to say it's fifty one thousand square kilometers, Okay,

572
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 5: fifty one thousand or fifty two thousand square kilometers.

573
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: How long does it take you to drive across the island.

574
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: Well, it's not an island. Is a country, Like it's

575
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 5: dead on the middle of the continent. So Puerto Rico

576
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 5: is an island. Costa Rica is not an island.

577
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: Okay.

578
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you're traveling across the country, if it

579
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 5: was a straight shot, probably like three hours.

580
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Fifty one thousand square kilometers, so nineteen thousand square miles.

581
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: So it's tiny.

582
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like nineteen thousand.

583
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: Alabama's like two and a half times bigger than Costa

584
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: Rica and they have the same populations, so about five

585
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: six million. So that goes to show you there's more

586
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 5: people per square mile than what you have here, right,

587
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: because yet you have these vast areas of no population

588
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: and that's due to the terrains.

589
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 4: Right. So you're going, like I said, if it was

590
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: a straight shot.

591
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 5: But three hours on a straight line, but you're going

592
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 5: through all these different habitats with altitudes, increases, decreases, valleys,

593
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: rivers and all that stuff that the travel some areas

594
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: you're doing.

595
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: Like it's mountains and they have you have a volcano. Yeah,

596
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: there's like seven volcanoes, like active volcano.

597
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: It's like okay, so you're dropping.

598
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: You're gonna go from like dry from like dry Arizona

599
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: looking like forest, you know, to the rainforest, back down

600
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 5: to maybe Louisiana mugginess looking like swamps, to the Caribbean

601
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: side and back down to the jungle on the south

602
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 5: end of the country.

603
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: And then you cross into Panama.

604
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: So you and that's without talking about the volcanoes and

605
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: the hot springs and all that stuff. Yeah, everything is

606
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: it's like a like I said, the place has two

607
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 5: percent of the word diversity, just bio biodiversity. Nineteen thousand

608
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 5: square miles. Two percent of the word biodiversity is located

609
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 5: in there. So you you can imagine that the flora

610
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 5: and the fauna is going to be really rich.

611
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: What kind of big game? Are there any big game animals?

612
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: O realize they're not hunting them there. Yeah, that was

613
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: part of his story, is that there's no honting in

614
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: coast through it's legal.

615
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that it's not. But there's some whitetail.

616
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: Whitetail there, yes, which would be invasive.

617
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know.

618
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean the white tails are.

619
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: And there's pigs, you know, feral pigs as you cannot

620
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 5: run them off. They're going to be everywhere. Jaguars, jaguars

621
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: of course. There's also this creature. I don't know what's

622
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 5: the name on the English, but we call it Danta.

623
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: She's like, like, go ahead and google it so you

624
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: can maybe describe it. But she's a big, old, like

625
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 5: a bear, looking like creature. We no longer her, and

626
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: her nose is going to be long like a taper.

627
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: It's like a taper.

628
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 5: A taper, that's what it is. There's those all over

629
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 5: the place, all over the no, no, let me take

630
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: the bag. Not all over on the south of the country.

631
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: There's yes, tapers with jaguars usually.

632
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the jaguar?

633
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: Yes, you really? Yes, down there on this south it's

634
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: called cord I.

635
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Mean, not not in a no, not in a case. Yeah,

636
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: tell me about I mean, like, how do you see

637
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: a jaguar?

638
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: Well, what how did you see?

639
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: The one you saw?

640
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: That's on the National Park. It's a reservation. So this

641
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: is is crazy.

642
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 5: But the wildlife is used to the people like not

643
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: messing with them. So as long as you know to do,

644
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: you don't do any kind of like a stupid solmn movement.

645
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 5: They're gonna behave natural and they're now they're not gonna

646
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: come up to you, right, but they're gonna keep a

647
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: fair distance. That time, I remember we were walking towards

648
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 5: the bridge, towards the beach because we're gonna do some

649
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 5: snook fision right there on the on the shallows, like

650
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 5: on the on the sandbanks. And my body screamed, jagguar.

651
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: And when we look up, he was on the go,

652
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: like like he was moving away from us, you know,

653
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 5: maybe about seven yards he probably saw us walking to

654
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: him and seven yards seventy oh no, seven yards no

655
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 5: then and he was on the go. And even though

656
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 5: he was that far away, man, you know the presence

657
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 5: of those cats like that being that big, especially like

658
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: mound lions. Yeah, I know there's some mount lines as well,

659
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: not as many color pumas. Yeah, and those are gonna

660
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: be I guess like the Florida panther m.

661
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

662
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I think the I think the mountain what we call

663
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: the mountain lion here puma puma con color. It's the

664
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: same cat. That is, there's different subspecies, but it's the

665
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: same cat that's like in Montana that would be down

666
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: in Central America as I understand it. Yeah, it may

667
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: be different, different subspecies.

668
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 5: It's the same, but the genes are going to be

669
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: a little bit different. It's just like the white tails

670
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 5: from the South versus the one in the Midwest, just

671
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 5: a little bit smaller, Just the same overall stuff, you know.

672
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever seen a black jaguar on pictures?

673
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: Never on person?

674
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I've noticed that there appears to be a jaguar tattoo

675
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: on your hand.

676
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: A puma?

677
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a puma.

678
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it is.

679
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Really, Now, what's the significance of that?

680
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: Nothing?

681
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Just like.

682
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: Good looking puma.

683
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got yeah, I got that puma. Man.

684
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: I got a bunch of North American and American kind

685
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: of like animals. So I got a puma. I got

686
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 5: a deer right here?

687
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 4: Oh really? Yeah? What else do I got?

688
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: Is it like a big buck?

689
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

690
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean, can you pull your arm.

691
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna like that one? Oh wow? Soon on his forearm.

692
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: There's a there's a bison, and then there's that bug

693
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: right there. Oh, look at that redtail hawk from wearing there.

694
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Now, okay, I.

695
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 4: Give me.

696
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Let me see that buck again. Hold on, put your

697
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: shirt up a little bit more. Okay, now the tattoo

698
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: artists that did this there, I noticed there's a forked

699
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: G two. Yeah, I'd say that's an unusual characteristic for

700
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: a white tail.

701
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: I know. And did you request the fork G two?

702
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: No?

703
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: I was like, that looks like a mule deer. But

704
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, here's the thing, if.

705
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: You want it to be a white tail. No, it

706
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: looks like a white tail.

707
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: Let me explain.

708
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a story here.

709
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me explain.

710
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: Everything that I have is handra like I usually request

711
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 5: my body matschief Flip that's his name. I know him

712
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: for several years, Templo, since I came to the States.

713
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 5: And every time I'm like a math, what if we

714
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: do like a like a puma?

715
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 4: So he will sit down.

716
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: So it was all that done at separate times.

717
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: Yes, and then he will draw by him out of

718
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: his mind right like will he's like sketch it on

719
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: your arm and pin or something depends.

720
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes he will do it on his tablet. Get

721
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 5: it all done, or sometimes he will do it directly

722
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 5: in my skin, right, depending on what he's forty. Anyways,

723
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 5: on this case, I said, Matt, I want to do

724
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 5: like a buck. He said, what are you talking about?

725
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: And I said, just just a big buck. He's like

726
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 5: like a white tail deer.

727
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, so is this guy this an

728
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 4: Alabama dude?

729
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 5: Or yes, he's an Alabama dude, but he's a known

730
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: hunter and he doesn't go outside as much as we do. Right, So,

731
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 5: so here's the thing. He's like, I look some reference

732
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: points and a few pictures of deer, now white tail

733
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: or nothing.

734
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: This is what I came with. And I look at

735
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 4: it and I said, that's a mule deer. But we're

736
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: here right now.

737
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna tell him nothing. Oh no, I said, Matt.

738
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 5: Just put it in there, you get He said, oh

739
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: you like it? I said, yeah, I put it up there,

740
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: so just like that, you know, so it is a

741
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: mule there.

742
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but you were You didn't need a white

743
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: tail though.

744
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 5: It don't matter if it could be a white tail

745
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: for interpretation, Yes, yeah, it's I can see it with

746
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 5: his eyes on the back of the.

747
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: I think that you've got the right to be like

748
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: pretty picky about which reference drawing they make if there's

749
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: a tattoo on your arm.

750
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: But on the on the throughout the years, the relationship

751
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: that it goes past client tattoo artists and it's just

752
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 5: comes a friendship, right, it becomes a frame life lessons

753
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: with Yes, so is.

754
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: This would this be like a so Okay, I mean

755
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm not. I'm not seeing it, but I

756
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: would don't trust you're You're just like, I mean, were

757
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: you gonna hurt his feelings?

758
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: No?

759
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: But it was like going through the process of like,

760
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: oh he has to draw it again?

761
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I said you didn't want to inconvenience.

762
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 4: No, just put the I gotta go.

763
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I paid for the guy to spent an extra

764
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: thirty minutes on it.

765
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 4: Now I'd be like, as a double it's so good. Yeah,

766
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 4: I like it.

767
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: If it's a white tail, it's I'm a sucker for

768
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: a four G two.

769
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: He's an incredible artist.

770
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he is pretty good.

771
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Hey have you ever you got a bison on there?

772
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: Have you ever read Steve Vanella's American Buffalo Book?

773
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

774
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

775
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: If you're if you're looking for a good book to

776
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: read you ought to read that?

777
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 4: Does he has that one on audible? Yeah?

778
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's on audible. I want to say it's

779
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: truly one of my I mean, it would be have

780
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: to be in the top top books. And I'm not

781
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: just saying that because we like to. Yeah wha, he

782
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: does not, Thank goodness, he does not. But it's a

783
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: good book.

784
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely I want to say, like, I'm almost one,

785
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 5: I got that book on the playlist on Audible.

786
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he has to. I will.

787
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: I will show you because I know it's going to

788
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: be like, oh yeah, right after we told him so

789
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 5: only he got I will show y'all later on.

790
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, to see that.

791
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: He has to like, yeah, I swear I did. It

792
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: was him or somebody else. Well, now I'm hold on

793
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: and say hold up, but let's just go ahead, let's

794
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: keep it be. Yeah.

795
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: I will pull out that phone later on and it's

796
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 5: stuff end noll. If you're watching this, I'm going to

797
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 5: prove I'm want to prove this.

798
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: You know, well, you know the coolest thing about your

799
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: story that I learned on the Southern Sportsman Endorsement podcast

800
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: and what we heard on Bear Grease was that it's

801
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: really cool how you you got into hunting and and

802
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: if you hadn't listened to it, you got to go

803
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: back and listen to it. But I mean when he

804
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: just started from like zero, when he when he got here,

805
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: and you're like becoming a really good hunter white tail hunter.

806
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 5: Man, I wouldn't say like a really good I will

807
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 5: say it more like a like a very persistent and

808
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 5: stubborn hunter. You know, they keep making the same mistakes

809
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: two to three times until I learned from him. Right,

810
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 5: It's like, no, no, it wasn't me. No, No, it

811
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: wasn't me. And then it's like, okay, it was me.

812
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 5: It's time to make a change. But but yeah, like

813
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 5: I said, the progression is being steady slow, but you know,

814
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 5: step by step. But it's been steady.

815
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: And I was talking with.

816
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 5: Clay about this that everybody wants to go and kill

817
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 5: a one fifty. We all do, right, But in my case, man,

818
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 5: I started from like not knowing how to hunt these

819
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: creatures to where I'm at now. So I've been following

820
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: a process that he has to be respected because I

821
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: feel that if I rush it, I'm gonna take away

822
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: to all the fun and all the joy that I

823
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 5: have Now, if I kill a one fifty, thank you God,

824
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 5: it will be amazing. But if I don't, it's not

825
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: going to take the slip away from it, right, And

826
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 5: then I'm not going to be passing on the small

827
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 5: bugs that I shouldn't be passing because I'm waiting that

828
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 5: one fifty. And the only thing that is that I'm

829
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 5: going to be thinking of is it's a different level.

830
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: And I respect that position from the guys that live

831
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 5: that kind of like a hunting life. But in my case,

832
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: my particular case, Pablo's life is a process and that process,

833
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 5: you know, it just takes time and it cannot be rushed.

834
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: It's just what it is. I'm being honest.

835
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: I'm not ashamed to say, like a man, if I'm

836
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: hunting and sometimes it's a bad day to be a spike.

837
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 6: Just like that.

838
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 4: It happens, Yeah, it happens. It happens like last year.

839
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: Listen, last year it was the best year ever kill

840
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 5: the biggest book that ever killed in Alabama. Kill a

841
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 5: bug on this particular double you may I've been hunting

842
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: seven years in that area without being able to kill

843
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: a legal book. Everything is within less than a week

844
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 5: time frame. And then the fourth day, No, the fifth

845
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: day of consecutive hunting, a cow horn looking like a

846
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: spike comes up and I was like bloom, yes, and

847
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 5: everybody's like, you gotta be kidding me.

848
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean?

849
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: This is a huge accomplishment. They're like, how big is

850
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 4: the spike? And I was like, it's like a food

851
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 4: long No.

852
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: It was a good It's always funny how people talk

853
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: about it was a big spot.

854
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: It's like as if if the two spikes walked up

855
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: and one at three and one at four, this one

856
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: is a good one, yeah, this one is. This one

857
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: is a good like cow horn looking like a spike. Yeah.

858
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: I can't get enough cal horn spot.

859
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 5: So I was like, what a better way to do

860
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 5: it then going back to basics and pull the trigger

861
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: and the spike burn attack and be done in Alabama?

862
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: And everybody's like, okay, so.

863
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: Did you just graduated from this spike management of university

864
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 5: orre you going to keep doing this?

865
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: And I was like, I don't know. We will find

866
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 4: out next season. So I went two weeks later to.

867
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: Mississippi kill a book, and I mean, come on, you

868
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, right yere man? Yeah, killing the

869
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: best book on the state killing a book and I've

870
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: only made it took me seven years to do that.

871
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: Tagging out. It don't matter what do you tag out,

872
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: but you tag out and then on top of that

873
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 5: killing now to state book.

874
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't get no better than that.

875
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: Right, big year, good year, I've got I've got a

876
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 1: question for you. So because you've you've you came into

877
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: specifically whitetail hunting so fresh, with such a clean slate,

878
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: like you didn't have any cultural baggage like anybody that's

879
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: raised I mean almost in America. I mean, deer hunting

880
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: is so big in America. I mean unless you're just

881
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: like from like the Inner City and your family has

882
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: been there for like generations, there's a good chance that

883
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: you have some connection to hunting. Maybe it's your grandfather,

884
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: maybe it's your uncle, your cousins, like somebody the hunter

885
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: way back, and and you come with this baggage of

886
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: the way that you're supposed to hunt, like whether it's

887
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: whether it's bow hunting, or whether it's doing drives, or

888
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: whether it's hunting with deer dogs like it is down

889
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: here in some places, whether it's bow hunt whatever. I

890
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: think that in today's like oversaturated whitetail world that's so commercialized,

891
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: and it just is I mean, you know, I mean

892
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: the company I work where we try to sell hunting products.

893
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of what makes the thing go round.

894
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad about that. But also in like

895
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: the media space in general, it's like we need things

896
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: to talk about, and so it's almost like hunting gets

897
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: more and more complex, like if you were just starting

898
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: from scratch, like when my dad started hunting back in

899
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. I mean, it's like you needed a

900
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: bow in a flannel shirt, you know, and maybe a

901
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: baker tree stand that you could climb up and probably die.

902
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: Those things they call them widow makers. But today you

903
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: might get the idea that you got to know about

904
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: all this different stuff. You're an interesting case study because

905
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: you do know, I mean, you've kind of, you know,

906
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of information. You've just been a sponge and

907
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: learned about thermals and learned about feed trees and learned

908
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: about funnels, and like he's a student of deer hunting,

909
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: you know. And so here's my question all that, to say,

910
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: what really are the limiting factors of killing a deer?

911
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: Where you hunt. Okay, because it could be somebody might

912
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: come into hunting and think it's camouflage pattern, which we

913
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: all know is not true. But what what do you

914
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: think the limiting factors are killing deer?

915
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: Based on what I believe personally pressure. I believe pressure

916
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 5: is a big thing. Also on this particular dog.

917
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: You may tell me what you mean by that. They

918
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: interpret that.

919
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 4: Like like hunters per squaial mind.

920
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: So you so for you to be successful, you go

921
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: where there's not pressure.

922
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: Yes, Also in this area where I hunt, the deer

923
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: population is very low. The habit that is pretty monocha.

924
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 5: How well, it's pretty much the.

925
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: Same block like monoculture.

926
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: Yes, so.

927
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: There's different areas where I can move and go and

928
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 5: kill a deer. Right, it might not be the greatest,

929
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 5: but he's going to be a deer and I could

930
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 5: be pretty successful about that. But once again, there's gonna

931
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 5: be things such as.

932
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: Pressure. That's to me, that's the biggest thing in Alabama.

933
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: So what what when you say that to me?

934
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: I hear you say.

935
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: If I was telling a new hunter what to do,

936
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: I would go find a place it doesn't have a

937
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: lot of people hunting, and you could be you could

938
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: you could not have knowledge and kind of not know

939
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: what you're doing, but maybe still kill a deer because

940
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: they're unpressured.

941
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: No.

942
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 5: Uh, now, here's the thing that's that's that's kind of

943
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: like a different question. I'm gonna answer in a different way.

944
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: But I think, to me, my blessing, because it was

945
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 5: a blessing, was that I learned from all school guys.

946
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 5: Guys didn't have social media. Shoot man, they had paper maps.

947
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 5: That was the way for them to scalt the areas

948
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. So that was my principle. You know,

949
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 5: that was the foundation of where I'm at right now.

950
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: Everything else I don't pick it up throughout the seasons

951
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 5: and you learn a little bit more about this and

952
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: about that. If somebody asked me right now, based on

953
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 5: what I know, I'd be like, Okay, the best way

954
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 5: to try to seal the deal is to figure out

955
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 5: when is the rut.

956
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: When the rout is on, like on the peak. So

957
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: you're going to find them cruisers and go ahead and

958
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 4: put yourself nearby a creek crossing or a bluff gap.

959
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: That's what I would choose. Like special so.

960
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Understanding like when the times are so you can understand

961
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: in topography.

962
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that way you're going to get the most

963
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 5: daylight movements and the most exposure, you know, because because

964
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: love is in the air, and they be goofing around

965
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 5: and I'm yeah, you know, and they exposed themselves in

966
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: the ways that they never do. Yeah, I've been winded before,

967
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: but bugs. They's like, man, I have got this crazy,

968
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 5: but I have got encounters with big deer. Last season,

969
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: I bomb paid Monster a monster and I called my

970
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 5: buddy Daniel Williams and I said, Daniel, I just bomb

971
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: pay Monster. It's like two thirty in the evening.

972
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: What do I do. He's like, Oh, don't worry, You're

973
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: going to do this. You fix them, kill him. And

974
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 4: I was like no, like he's gone. He was like, no,

975
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: do this, you fix him, kill him. And I didn't

976
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 4: listen to him.

977
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 5: And I think that I should have done it, and

978
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 5: I might have killed him, you know, but I was like, no, no,

979
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: hold on, I'm going to try to do this.

980
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: Well.

981
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 5: He was recommending me, was like trying to circle hook

982
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: that book, but I just couldn't avoid it, and I

983
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 5: did the opposite and just kind of like straight up

984
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: chasing climb a tree and I was like, he's gonna

985
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 5: come back, and I bet you he wouldn't run, but

986
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: he was a monster.

987
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 4: H bet it on the wide up and yeah.

988
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: The crazy thing is I stopped and look at the tree.

989
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 5: I came out of the thicket, stop looking at the tree,

990
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 5: and I said, this is a really good transition area.

991
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: This is the climber and the trail comes right here.

992
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it. And I did one step and

993
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: he bumped about twenty yards, so you were right. Yeah,

994
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: I was right there, but he was already there. Yeah.

995
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: So you know, I used to think about bow hunting.

996
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: If somebody would have seen me killing deer and would

997
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: have been like, oh, man, you're a good hunter, I

998
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: would have said, I don't know. I don't really think

999
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm a good hunter. I think I just go lot

1000
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: and I'm really persistent. So what I saw people do

1001
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: is like learn a lot about hunting. And this is

1002
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of a fictitious scenario, but like learn a lot

1003
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: about hunting, try to find the right time, like basically

1004
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: find the right scenario, and then they would go and

1005
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: not be successful. And maybe they even knew more about

1006
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: what was happening than me, But I was I just

1007
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: went more, stayed longer and ended up killing deer, and

1008
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: in the process of that you learn a lot. I mean,

1009
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: so I think the thing that I would say to

1010
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: people is just go go climb up in a tree

1011
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: and sit there, and when you don't see deer, you're

1012
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna learn something. You're gonna go somewhere else. When you

1013
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: do see deer, you're gonna be validated. And you're gonna

1014
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: watch how they use the terrain, watch what they're feeding on,

1015
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: watch the direction they come. When you get winded, you're

1016
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: gonna learn Oh dang, I need to be on that

1017
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,919
Speaker 1: side of the funnel, and the thermals are gonna suck

1018
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: my wind down in that draw. I mean, like you

1019
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: just learned so much about being there. But as opposed

1020
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: to and I guess I'm kind of combating what you

1021
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: and I talked about earlier today about how complex sometimes. Yeah,

1022
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: like the more the longer we do this white tail

1023
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: hunting thing, the more fine tuned it becomes, and kind

1024
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: of the more complicated it becomes in a way.

1025
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 4: And there's so many members technicologies, so many technicologies and

1026
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: things that it seems like we're speaking about like outer

1027
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: space kind of stuff. And it just takes the whole

1028
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: the fun a way.

1029
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: When's what's the last white Tail podcast you listen to?

1030
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: Miss nukelem.

1031
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 3: When was the last time you did a Dear Stories podcast?

1032
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, you know what, I'm just gonna ask you.

1033
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: Well, I was thinking it kind of reminds me. You know,

1034
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 3: Shepherd always our son. Shep always talks about luck favors

1035
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: the people who who show up, who are there, and

1036
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: if sometimes he'll hear you and Bear talking about about

1037
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: whether you should go or not, and if you don't,

1038
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 3: He's like, oh man, they might have missed the air lucky.

1039
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: Day, so powerful quote. Love favors the ones that show up.

1040
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 4: Yeah that is so truth. Yeah that's so good.

1041
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, segue into this. Pablo told me a quote

1042
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: earlier today that I was like, Hey, that's really good

1043
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: about nostalgia.

1044
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah's here it because you know, here's the thing.

1045
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 5: I was talking with Clay and I said, a lot

1046
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 5: of times I get very nostalgic when I when I think.

1047
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: Talking about Coaster Rea, I get very nostalgic. And it happens.

1048
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 4: But but I said, nostalgia is the greatest liar there is, right,

1049
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: And that's because it will bring you back to these

1050
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: really like cool moments and great memories while hiding the

1051
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: real reason why something ended or something was. Don't forget right.

1052
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: That's good, Yeah, it's really good.

1053
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: So so what I get is all these reels of

1054
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: high moments of my childhood, pretty much in my teenager years,

1055
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 5: which I had the greatest childhood ever, man, like I

1056
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: you know, with you can you can try to put

1057
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 5: in context like oh, there was some limitations or whatever

1058
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 5: was I never felt, you know, I was a happy

1059
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 5: kid with what we had, right, and the greatest thing

1060
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: we didn't have internet and we didn't have cell phones.

1061
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: That was the two greatest thing it's ever, you know.

1062
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: So we grew up everybody in the neighborhood, my area

1063
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: pretty much like that, like yeah, wide up and on

1064
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 5: the woods, you know. So you you cannot be asking

1065
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 5: for anything better than that. But I get nostalgic.

1066
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 4: It's normal.

1067
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 5: And especially when I think about fishing, I'm like, oh

1068
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 5: my god, man, oh my god, you know, forty five

1069
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 5: minutes away from from the ocean, yeah, or something like that.

1070
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 5: And then you start recalling, Okay, what was the reasons

1071
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: why we left or what do we move forward? This

1072
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 5: and that, and then you start realizing like, oh, yeah,

1073
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 5: that's why you know. And so yeah, gotta be careful

1074
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 5: when you get nostalgic, because you can be impulsive.

1075
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Okay, tying this back into deer hunting, have you deer

1076
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: hunted long enough for you to be nostalgic about deer hunting?

1077
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: Yes? Absolutely?

1078
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 5: About a place in the specific, Yeah, this area where

1079
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: I used to be the one that I think that

1080
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 5: shot in that big deer. I don't want to get

1081
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 5: into a lot of detail of the place because I

1082
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: will give it up.

1083
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 4: But the place was.

1084
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 5: It's no longer available mm and and that was my

1085
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 5: honey hole, and I hunted it hard, man, every moment,

1086
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 5: every day that I had, I was on the same tree,

1087
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: the same sweet come about this big because it was

1088
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 5: the only one that you could climb in that swamp.

1089
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: And now I go by the place, even though there's

1090
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: nothuntable you can go by, and and man, sometimes I

1091
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 5: just kind of like stayed right there, and I'm like, man,

1092
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 5: I wish that I could haunt this place back again.

1093
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: And even though this nostalgia is like legit, like there's

1094
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 5: not such bad reason for it, Like it was out of.

1095
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: My days you sat there and didn't see anything.

1096
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but how much I learned and how much time

1097
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: you because there was so much wildlife on those swamps,

1098
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 5: which was incredible.

1099
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1100
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: I got to see in otters. I got to see beavers,

1101
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: all kinds of ducks, coons, bobcads, just walking by me,

1102
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 5: minding their business. And that's quiet that you can stay.

1103
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: The more you're gonna learn, you know. That's I learned

1104
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 5: that with deer as well. The first time I seen

1105
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 5: a doubt with triplets. That doesn't happen very often, but

1106
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 5: it happens. Well, it might happiness more often than what

1107
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: I think. But the phones were like literally underneath me,

1108
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 5: and I was like hugging the tree, like police go

1109
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 5: away and they're doing their thing. And Mama was like

1110
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: forty yards away, ears wide open, scanny. She knew something

1111
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 5: was off, but she could figure it out. So I

1112
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 5: was listening so carefully because there was so many bocalizations

1113
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 5: going on between and back and forth that it was

1114
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 5: just an amazing experience. And they ended up just walking away.

1115
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: But I was like, these are the days that really

1116
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: make the difference when you learn and experience a little

1117
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: bit better, you know, behaviors or things like that. But yeah, yeah,

1118
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 5: that place right there. And there's also the one that

1119
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 5: they got away, the one that could never recovered. You

1120
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 5: seeing that book, Yeah, he was a good one to

1121
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: as show it to you later, but he was a

1122
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 5: good one. And then what else, like seriously that again.

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00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Be thinking of a question you might have for him? Anything? Josh,

1124
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: you two got it? Do you have any questions?

1125
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Well, I just I enjoyed listening to to your story

1126
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: for the podcast, and I think I think your passion

1127
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: for the outdoors surfaced when you were so little, and

1128
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: I admire your your passion when you got to the

1129
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: United States of you know, learning that you could hunt

1130
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: and and uh does that I guess My my thing

1131
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: is is like, what is that? What has that done

1132
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: to you? Is it filled you with more passion? Are

1133
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: you still just as excited about it today as you

1134
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: were then? I'm actually have you have you like, has

1135
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: that branched out into other areas of hunting?

1136
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's well to start the question is like he

1137
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 5: has I'm actually hungrier than what it was before. And

1138
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 5: the reason for that is because now I understand what

1139
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 5: I'm doing and now I can actually understand why am

1140
00:59:59,480 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: I doing it?

1141
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 4: Things?

1142
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 5: So it has drew me like crazier than what it

1143
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 5: was before, right because it's like, Okay, now I have

1144
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 5: no excuses.

1145
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 4: Before I could have this excuse of.

1146
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 5: Inexperienced this that like that, like now there's none Like

1147
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 5: now I'm I should be good to go. And yes, absolutely, man,

1148
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: I was Remember I was disclosed to be turkey hunting today. Okay,

1149
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 5: I've never done it before. He turned down a turkey

1150
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 5: hunt to come with me Jamie McKay and Alabama. He

1151
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 5: was like, We're gonna go turkey hunting and I was like,

1152
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: mister Jamie, I can't. I gotta go with Clay. I

1153
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 5: said we wait until I said we wait for next

1154
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: year because I've never done it before.

1155
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: He was like, oh gone.

1156
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 5: You know so I want to do some turkey hunting,

1157
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: you know, of course, fishing all the time, deer hunting

1158
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: and man, everybody, I mean, I don't know, somebody doesn't

1159
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: say like elk hunting or any other game like that. Yes,

1160
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 5: I would love to venture into that, but I guess

1161
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 5: that's gonna come with time. When when the time is right,

1162
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 5: I guess yea. But yeah, now I'm more passionate than before,

1163
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 5: because now I understand, Yeah, well I'm what am I

1164
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 5: actually looking for?

1165
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: Man, You've had some incredible mentors, all the guys they

1166
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: all mentioned. I mean that when when I heard his story,

1167
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: that was the thing that stood up to me, is

1168
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: that all the all the people that just brought him

1169
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: into kind of their inner circle. And uh, that's that's

1170
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: as it's honestly a testament to them, but it's also

1171
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: a testament to you. I Mean, sometimes I think people

1172
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: talk about maybe not being able to find mentors and

1173
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: and really a lot of times the fingers should be

1174
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: pointed back at Yeah, the person that they're not reaching

1175
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: out to the right people, or they're they're they're not

1176
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: respecting I mean that I don't know. It's it's it

1177
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: can be hard to break into.

1178
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 5: Let me tell you how they started. Well, first and

1179
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 5: foremost mister mister Tony, right, But then I spoke with

1180
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 5: Josh about this friend of mine, Parker McDonald. He had

1181
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 5: he has a YouTube channel, right, so years ago it

1182
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 5: was called Southern ground Hunting right now it's Southern Collective. Anyways,

1183
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 5: he put up their own social media. I'm looking for

1184
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: an interm for Southern ground Hunting. So I email him

1185
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 5: and I said, I have no experience with a camera.

1186
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about electronics. I do not on

1187
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 5: a computer. I'm technologically slow, but I have a good

1188
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 5: attitude and if you put a camera on my hands.

1189
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: I would love to go out there with you.

1190
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: I said, here goes nothing, and I sent the email

1191
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 5: right literally, did I know he texts me back. Well,

1192
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 5: he emails me back, Hey, this is my phone number.

1193
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 4: Give me a text.

1194
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 5: I was like, do what, well, mister Towny, don't talk

1195
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 5: to mister Michael. Mister Michael saw Parker somewhere and talk

1196
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 5: to Parker about me. Parker's like, hey, Michael talked to

1197
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 5: me about you.

1198
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 4: Do you want to meet in this place? And we

1199
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 4: we talk about it.

1200
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 5: We talked a little bit and we became friends. And

1201
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 5: next thing you know, I was out there hunting with Parker.

1202
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: There was no inner spot.

1203
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 4: I was just with him.

1204
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 5: He started teaching me as well what he believed he

1205
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: was the best approach for me, while being double check

1206
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 5: with mister Tunny, mister Jamie, mister Michael McCabe, and then

1207
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 5: Daniel Williams came along the road and he's like, okay,

1208
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 5: now you're jumping on on on this truck and we're

1209
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 5: fixing the move along and this is when you're going

1210
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 5: to start learning about topographies and learn about this.

1211
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: Wow, it's like a like a class exactly.

1212
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,959
Speaker 5: Everybody this is this is the best of the best.

1213
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: Everybody has a very strong like a subject to each

1214
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 5: other strength. Yes, that that everybody like mister Michael bluff

1215
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 5: gaps and creek crossings, you know, mister Tonny Myers fea trees. Yes,

1216
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 5: he killed a state record on a history. Mister Michael

1217
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 5: killed the muscilow of state record not long ago, like

1218
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 5: a one eight.

1219
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: The one who said like.

1220
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and after that the place look like a punkin patch,

1221
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, like opening there. Yeah, nothing but orange. It's

1222
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 5: just an awful you know. I was like, yeah, it's

1223
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 5: over with. But something I have learned is that the

1224
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 5: pressure goes up and then the next year will it

1225
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 5: go kind of like a dive down. Then a couple

1226
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: of years we'll go back up. Anyways, Parker is all

1227
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 5: about access, you know how you access? Yes, mister Jamie

1228
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 5: is about travel corridors, like where do you find them?

1229
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 4: Cruising?

1230
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 5: So I've been picking the best out of the best man,

1231
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 5: and I got a feeling that this will pay sooner

1232
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 5: or later, will pay off, and if it doesn't, it

1233
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 5: don't matter because I have got the greatest time eror

1234
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 5: with these guys and and just just being able to

1235
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 5: learn from him is a luxury. Like what a luxury

1236
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 5: do I have to man that?

1237
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I've been in scouting with.

1238
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I tell you, I guarantee you

1239
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: that you are well just from being around you today.

1240
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,919
Speaker 1: You're a great listener. It's fun to teach somebody that's passionate. Yeah,

1241
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: it's fun to teach somebody that's appreciative. It's fun to

1242
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: teach somebody that is taking what you what you teach

1243
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: them and in doing and doing it. And actually, I

1244
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: mean so my point being, those guys are incredible. A

1245
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: hat tip to every one of those guys. Uh, you're

1246
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: doing some stuff right too. Yeah, I mean, just just

1247
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: in the fact that you could gain these guys trusts

1248
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: and well, that's the that's the biggest thing. I mean,

1249
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, kind of like throw your pearls

1250
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: before the swine. I mean, it's like, if I'm going

1251
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: to invest in somebody, I want to know that it's

1252
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be there's gonna be a return on that investment,

1253
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: like in their life, because we all have invested in

1254
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: somebody that kind of squandered what you gave them, and

1255
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: you kind of learned from that. You're like, wow, I'm

1256
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: not going to invest my time in that anymore.

1257
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 5: But you know, my thing, I will say, the biggest

1258
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: thing for me was that you have to be aware

1259
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 5: that the people's time is very valuable and the experience

1260
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 5: that they have gained throughout the years is priceless. Like seriously, man,

1261
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 5: they have expent years of their life up in that

1262
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 5: mountain chasing these creatures, and suddenly if you're here for

1263
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 5: a free ride, that's gonna throw you off the door

1264
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 5: right away. Like you see what I'm saying. What I

1265
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 5: want to learn is how you do what you do?

1266
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 4: Now? Where you go to do what you do? You know?

1267
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 5: Like so I don't know, I guess it's the will,

1268
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 5: your attitude, perseverance, you know, how good you're going to

1269
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 5: be able to face the challenges that they throw it

1270
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 5: at you. Maybe I don't know, just the blessing overall,

1271
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 5: that's what it is. Yeah, good lord looking over, there's

1272
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 5: nothing you can do about that, right.

1273
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: So it was good, So.

1274
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: Did you have a question?

1275
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: Actually my question was how did he get his mentors?

1276
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 3: That was actually what I was curious about. I haven't listened,

1277
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't. I wouldn't. Haven't heard the whole

1278
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: story yet. So it's kind of hard because I actually

1279
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: have a lot of questions, but I feel like it

1280
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: would be repetitive. They're probably answered in.

1281
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: The yeah, yeah, So how did you get here? It's

1282
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 4: like it cannot be disclosed.

1283
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 5: So real quick. I met this gentleman. I was doing

1284
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 5: some work outside of his house. They took me on

1285
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 5: the backside. My stepdad did well. He had giants, state

1286
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 5: records and all that stuff, everything from public land. I

1287
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, got his name.

1288
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 4: Uh. A few years went by. I'm striking with no

1289
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 4: lock on public land. Three years without seeing a deer,

1290
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 4: without seeing a deer, three seasons honting, no dear. I'm desperate.

1291
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: And I spoke with my stepdad and said, do you

1292
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 4: remember that gentleman? He said, yeah, this is his house.

1293
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know. I said, does he still

1294
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 5: lives in there? He's like, I don't know. So I said,

1295
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 5: I something is gonna happen. I'm gonna get shot or

1296
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm gonna find my stani but something.

1297
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: They're doing concrete work. This guy's the stranger's house, saw

1298
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: his trophy room. And then a year later he goes back.

1299
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 5: It was three three years later, yes, oh wow, yes,

1300
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 5: three years later. I went back to Miss Tony's. Anyways,

1301
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 5: I said, something's gonna happen. I'm gonna get shot or

1302
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna find him. I saw the con I was like,

1303
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 5: that's that's it, you know, that's that's the one knock

1304
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 5: on the front door. Nothing, And I said, here we go.

1305
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 5: You just gotta roll the dice and I walk on

1306
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 5: the back, like on the back of the house.

1307
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: If you knock on my back door, you're getting shot.

1308
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and I period. Miss Donna came out and she's

1309
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 4: super sweet and kind with me, and she says, can

1310
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 4: I help you? I was like hell, you know.

1311
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, don't let the serotypes guiding you to this,

1312
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 5: because I'm fixing the gains shot.

1313
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 4: You know, I have an accent and a bunch of

1314
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 4: the this It's not what it looks like, you know, right.

1315
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 4: I was like, it's not what it looks like. Just

1316
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: bear with him and let me explain myself please, and

1317
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 4: I said, mister Tony home.

1318
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 5: She was like, no, he's honey. I said I'd be back,

1319
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 5: and so I came back that evening as mister Tony.

1320
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 5: He was like, everybody, I.

1321
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 4: Remember you, just like that, okay, and that it started,

1322
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 4: and then he he took.

1323
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 5: Me under his wing. He's getting closer to retirement. He's

1324
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 5: a legend, man. And then he's like, I'm going to

1325
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: talk to some of the guys from the same generation

1326
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 5: so they can kind of like still help people a

1327
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 5: little bit and all that, and that's how the ball

1328
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 5: went down eventually, all the way, like I said, mister Tony,

1329
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 5: mister Jamie, mister Michael, Daniel Williams, Parker McDonald, Nick Brandon,

1330
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 5: Brian Prosser, that dude, man, that guy Brian Prosser. He's like,

1331
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 5: this is the crazy thing on public Land. He's able

1332
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 5: to pinpoint in the specific individual and do a lot

1333
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 5: of effective prayer that that buck is gonna live until

1334
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 5: he's like four years old. They even know that he's

1335
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 5: been shot since he's like six months old. He's like, God,

1336
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 5: please don't let him get killed this season.

1337
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: And somehow this guy, this guy's praying for a specific year.

1338
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,520
Speaker 5: Yes, somehow this year end up being like on the one, twenties,

1339
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 5: one thirties. Next thing, you know, they jump from that

1340
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 5: to like an upper one. Photies on public on the

1341
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 5: same place.

1342
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 4: Many praise that they die, and he does that. He

1343
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 4: kills them all the time.

1344
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: Like last time that I was with him, he takes me, hey,

1345
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 5: I'm going tomorrow, and I was like, ah, good luck,

1346
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 5: it's the only day that I have.

1347
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 4: I gotta go. He was chasing a giant one fifty

1348
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 4: four a point double brow time mm hmm.

1349
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 5: So text me about seven point thirty he's down and

1350
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 5: I was like, there's no way I go in there

1351
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 5: retrieving that bug with him, My goodness, man, talking about popcorn,

1352
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff.

1353
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 4: I should picture.

1354
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 5: Later, the deer came in and the deer saw him

1355
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 5: drawing back on his bow, so he said the buck

1356
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 5: stop and turns looking at him like that, and right

1357
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 5: when he's about to go.

1358
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 4: He releases.

1359
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: So there it goes through the deer nose out in

1360
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 5: the yall into the neck area and he s lip

1361
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 5: and ordering, wow, he was able to kill him. On

1362
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 5: the picture, you see like a cross right here on

1363
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: his nose and then where it was. But yeah, every

1364
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 5: year he does that, and he's one of the guys like,

1365
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 5: like I said, everybody else, actually my Boddy Nick. I

1366
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 5: was with him last season, and uh, we're hunting on

1367
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 5: this area where I see the triplet. I heard the

1368
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 5: first thing in the morning. I said, man, he got

1369
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 5: one on top of that ridge. We have receptions and

1370
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: Nick is like, hey, man, I shot a big old pig.

1371
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go retrieve him, and then you know, we go,

1372
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 5: and I said, cool. Well, I didn't hear anything else.

1373
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 5: And like three hours later.

1374
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: I see Nick limping really bad heading my way and

1375
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: I was like, what happened? He said, man, I dang pig.

1376
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 4: He wasn't dead.

1377
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like the pig was inside of a ticket. So

1378
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 5: Nick goes into the tickets looking for him because the

1379
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 5: pig was wounded like really bad. He thought that he

1380
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 5: was done, and as soon as he got two him,

1381
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 5: the pig just jumping.

1382
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 4: He charged on him.

1383
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 5: Luckily didn't hit him with the tusk, but he hit

1384
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 5: him good enough on the leg that he was like

1385
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 5: he was in a binding and he was about a

1386
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 5: mile away from where I was. So to me, it

1387
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 5: was no way to tell that he would have been hurt,

1388
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 5: you know. So I said, okay, next day, I go

1389
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 5: in and during there at night, so I pull up

1390
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 5: my phone and start recording because they're squealing like really hard,

1391
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 5: and I got a green light. Next thing, you know,

1392
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 5: one of them is charging at me. He's like four

1393
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning. So I just jumped in the

1394
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 5: tree and held like that and I was like sweat

1395
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 5: until the sunlight comes up.

1396
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 4: Because we fixed him. Settle this down, you know.

1397
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 5: So I climbed our tree somel like, came up, took

1398
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 5: a shot. Surprisingly I missed.

1399
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: Oh the pigs were still there.

1400
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they didn't go nowhere. Apparently I'm not the

1401
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 5: greatest shooter at which I thought I was, but I

1402
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 5: am not.

1403
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 4: And I.

1404
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 5: Know I hate him, but I didn't hit him right.

1405
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 5: And then I'll start chasing and running behind it and

1406
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 5: just shooting lead like crazy. I bet you everybody in

1407
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 5: that management area was like, what's going on in the hall?

1408
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 5: Or a couple more steps, man, Yeah, it was didn't

1409
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 5: recover Just to make it sure, yeah it didn't.

1410
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 3: It needs to make it short.

1411
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah good, Yeah it happened. Here's the thing with my rifle.

1412
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 4: It was a gift.

1413
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 5: First gun that I ever owned my life Reminton seventy

1414
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 5: seven thirty or six. My stepdad and my mom purchased that.

1415
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 4: Gun for me. There you go, you have a gun.

1416
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 4: You have a rifle. Never have one before in my life.

1417
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: So because in Costa Rica you really couldn't have no.

1418
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 5: And calivers like that, I don't really yeah, you know,

1419
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 5: I don't really think that they even provide those things.

1420
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 5: I know, pistols, yeah, but like hunting like that, calivers

1421
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 5: like that. Now, yeah, well apparently you got to side

1422
01:14:59,160 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: the thing.

1423
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 4: I had no clue. I just went honting and I

1424
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 4: so that had a scope on it. Yeah, And I

1425
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 4: just went hunting.

1426
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: And then never sided the No. Years ago, a couple

1427
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: of years to no.

1428
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, about three years ago, Daniel asked me because I

1429
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 5: shot and I missed.

1430
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: Man, here's the thing. It was a mistake, but it's

1431
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 4: the middle of the rug right, there's the biggest crape.

1432
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, right here, right here, it's hot.

1433
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 5: Climb up the street and about I don't know two

1434
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 5: hours later, five those man come in and I.

1435
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: Was like dough bloom and she hunched over and I

1436
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 4: was like, yes, got it. Deer. So I text Daniel

1437
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: and I said, I just shot a door.

1438
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 6: He's like, what are you doing? Here's the rug were

1439
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 6: shooting dose? And I was like, dang, you man, he's

1440
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 6: actually right, I said, got the money. Well, I mean

1441
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 6: it's I next thing I know, she stands up and

1442
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 6: I was like, oh no, and well, I guess the adrenaline. Man,

1443
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 6: I end up sending twelve shots like I run out

1444
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 6: of ammal.

1445
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: Boom boom, beloaded for more and well, man, I got

1446
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 4: down and went up there closer to the scrape where

1447
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 4: I shot her, looking for blood.

1448
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 5: And I turned my head lamp and there's a buck

1449
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 5: literally on this crape looking at me. And I was like,

1450
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 5: of course you show up now it's dark. I can't

1451
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 5: got no ammal, you know.

1452
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 4: And I said, this is well.

1453
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 5: I didn't find it though, you know, like she she

1454
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 5: was gone, like she's just gone. I bet she wasn't

1455
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 5: even mortally wounded. But anyways, Dan, he was like, when

1456
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 5: was the last time you sighted your deer? And I

1457
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 5: said what do you mean? He's like, when do you

1458
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 5: when when it was last time you shot to a target?

1459
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 5: I said, you do you mean like a deer? He

1460
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 5: was like oh my god, no, like I said, I

1461
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 5: never done it. No, He's like, you got to be

1462
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 5: kidding me. He's like, and it was the last time

1463
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 5: you cleaned the rifle, And I said, what you mean?

1464
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 5: When we look at the barrel it looked like the

1465
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 5: entrance of a coal mine. I mean seriously, it was.

1466
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 6: Out and then like you.

1467
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 5: Can see like the strips on the barrel. Then it

1468
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 5: was like, what, which is crazy? Like how good these

1469
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 5: things are? You know, because with a bunch of neglection

1470
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 5: they still functioning just perfectly. Now now I'm cleaning you know,

1471
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 5: here and there. The only thing that I got to

1472
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 5: do is just get a scope because the one that

1473
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 5: I have well, apparently I didn't know.

1474
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 4: That the prize is correlated with how good the scope

1475
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 4: it is. And I was like ninety nine ninety nine.

1476
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 4: I said, that sounds like a deal.

1477
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 5: And if it's not like one o'clock in the evening fulish,

1478
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 5: then you ain't gonna see a thing through.

1479
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 4: It, you know.

1480
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: So I was like, that is fun.

1481
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: So you never started the gun after that?

1482
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 4: I did, yeah, yeah, And after that.

1483
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 5: I went to a range and I was like so

1484
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 5: this He was like, yeah, like, what's wrong with you?

1485
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 5: You know, and that thing was way off. I wasn't

1486
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 5: a hundred yards. I wasn't even hitting Oh my good paper, yeah.

1487
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh, it's funny.

1488
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 5: And then if you don't, we start dialing in, and

1489
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 5: of course a rival don't hit the ground. A few

1490
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 5: times with me, like more than a few times. I

1491
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 5: dropped him from the tree the same as I did

1492
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 5: with my bow, and and he was loaded and he

1493
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 5: fell with it, stoke down on the mud and just

1494
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 5: stuck up like that. So I was repelling myself on

1495
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 5: the other side of the tree, like oh boy, yeah,

1496
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 5: and I was able to get it off.

1497
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: I wish somebody, some little guy had been floating around

1498
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: in the woods with a camera video videoing you with

1499
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: all these.

1500
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 4: A lot of men.

1501
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 5: A lot of times I'm like, a guy, pulease, don't

1502
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 5: let nobody be right here, because, yeah, I for some reason,

1503
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 5: A lot of times I encounter things that normal people

1504
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 5: want to do, Like with the rattlesnakes.

1505
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 4: I have one. It's not that big. It's about that long,

1506
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 4: but it's not that wide. That's a big old girl. Yeah. Anyways,

1507
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: I seen it and I was like, man, I gotta

1508
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 4: take you home.

1509
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: Now.

1510
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 5: You got to keep in mind I don't have a firearm.

1511
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 5: I have with my shady and my walking steak, which

1512
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 5: is the bottom part of a surfing rud. So I'm

1513
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 5: about a mile and a half from the truck and

1514
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 5: I said, you know, want let's let's roll the dice.

1515
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 5: Let's see, let's see what happens. And there's no cel

1516
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 5: from reception too, so I said, let's let's just see

1517
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 5: what happened. Yeah, And for working with a snake, this

1518
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 5: is the best way that I like to describe myself

1519
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 5: as a hybrid, right, fifty percent Hispanic, fifty percent red neck.

1520
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, It's just the hybrid. I

1521
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 5: just don't know what they kept. Yeah, you don't know

1522
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 5: what they're capable of. You don't see him all the time.

1523
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: So I was like, ah, let's go, and we start going.

1524
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 5: She immediately knew what was up, and she coil up

1525
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 5: and got on the striking position. I whack her penny down,

1526
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 5: reached down, stretcher, step on the tail, pull down on shading.

1527
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 5: When I'm going to strike, she comes loose and strike

1528
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 5: between my legs full force.

1529
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 4: So I jumped back and I was like, all right,

1530
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 4: let's let's go ahead and do this again. Then start running.

1531
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 5: She tries to flee like take off, and when she did,

1532
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 5: I just reached down, which it was pretty stupid, and

1533
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 5: pull her from the tail. And as I pulled her back,

1534
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 5: because she was going on the bloff. As I pulled

1535
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 5: her back, she came back striking.

1536
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 4: Man. I swear her.

1537
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 5: Mouth went like this, like like in a slow mo,

1538
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 5: full wide open, and I was like, I'm fixing two,

1539
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 5: getting get in trouble. Group myself back again, back back again,

1540
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 5: you know, start going at him and whack her again.

1541
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 5: Penny down, pull it, step on it, pull my shitty

1542
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 5: pull cut the head that was, I gotcha, put it

1543
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 5: on my pack, continue with my day. Now she's not

1544
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 5: rattling no more, but you know, reptiles that will be

1545
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 5: moving throughout several hours. Made it home and my wife

1546
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 5: is like, a how to go? And I said, good,

1547
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 5: but something that's been boogering me.

1548
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 4: On my backpack. She said, what are you mean? I said,

1549
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I got something here. It's kind of weird.

1550
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 4: She's like, well check it. Keep in mind she's in

1551
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 4: the kitchen fixing lunch and I just grabbed my pack

1552
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 4: and flip it upside down and let it up, and

1553
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 4: and that thing fell on the floor and started moving.

1554
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 7: She was jumping this high, that creepy and my dogs

1555
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 7: were like, whoa, and he's got pit bulls, yes.

1556
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 4: And she got so upset, and I was like, it

1557
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 4: was a joke. It was a joke. I'm sorry I

1558
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 4: ended up picking the snake out. She was like, yeah,

1559
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 4: I think you get out of there. Help more lunch

1560
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 4: for you.

1561
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 5: And I was like, I follow you from my behavior.

1562
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 5: I said, he was a bad joke. But yeah, she's

1563
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 5: still don't don't enjoy that memory from that snake, you know.

1564
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: So ah, that's funny. Well, hey man, it's been great

1565
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: to meet you. Great to have you on the podcast.

1566
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you coming up here.

1567
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate y'all. I seriously do. People like you.

1568
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,560
Speaker 5: Guys are are the reason why, you know, most of

1569
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 5: us do what we do because y'all have the right

1570
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 5: approach and that means a lot to me.

1571
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 4: So thank you so much, Thank you so much. Opportunity.

1572
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.

1573
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: Pablo.

1574
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be I'm sure we'll be hearing from you

1575
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: in the future. I want to be getting some pictures

1576
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: of some big Bucks.

1577
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 5: Yeah man, we'll see. Yeah, well see how it's gonna go.

1578
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, definitely yeah yeah.

1579
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: All right, keep the wild places wild because that's where

1580
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: the Bears live and you might find Pablo there.

1581
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 4: You never know, Hey, just a matter of time of time, yeah,