1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Oh, my God's name, we try to get me. I 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: think you should tell the listeners what you just told me, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: because then you're probably going to get a lot of 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: people slide in your d M s. God, should I 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: do cameo? I'm gonna need cameo if I do that. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: We quit. That was not a good idea. Yeah, we 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: quit came out. Um, I was just telling Kelly's story 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: that I got a d M. Wait, let me just 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: give a shout out if I'm going to tell the story. 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Lord wasn't prepared, Susan. I'm like, why do this to yourself? Literally? 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Just our listener, Nikki Um and she had seen a 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: story that was it was a like a oh, it 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: was like a burrito being rolled at chipot you know 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: they stuff them stuff. And it said feels sexual. But 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't feel like you mean it's sexual, but something 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: about the way you're telling it feels sexual. I mean 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: it was like they do stuff these burritos, but against you. 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Just remember dot dot dot. And she was like, this 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: makes me think about casual because I think I talked 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: over you. Um, when the odds are stacked against you, 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: just remember dot dot dot. And she said this reminds 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: me about casual. I love listening to you and Kelly 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: or something like that. So I just I responded center 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: a voicetown. I just read I just said act casual. 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my god, this made my week, 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: he felt because telling the story. But it actually made 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: my day so right, And you have to just I 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: feel like you have to embrace it a little more 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: because you get like this too when people stop you 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: in public and you're like, oh my god, I feel 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: so I'm so nervous or whatever. Lean in. The people 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: love you. I mean, Chip is back in Canada. I 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: mean literally, are you moving there? Like what's happening? Might 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: get dual citizen ship. I should figure out. I should 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: look up how to apply for it. I can't believe 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: they let you in. I feel like Canada's are stricked 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: on the COVID well, I mean it is really strict. 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: So I'm in the Ontario province, I'm in Niagara Falls 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: and they are on lockdown again and uh, we're shooting. 40 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: Canada's got talent. And I think Lindsay and I might 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: be the only people staying in this hotel. It is 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: so weird, like there's no front desk workers. The front 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: door locks, and thirty were not allowed to leave or 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: we can't get back in. Um they there's only two 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: days a week that you can request to have your 46 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: room cleaned. So like when we got here, I've got 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: like five bars of soap, tons of shampoo, lots of 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: trash bags, like I can put trash outside of my 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: door and some magical ferry picks it up for in 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the day. But like it's weird, Like I haven't seen 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: another person at the elevator near the elevator in the elevator. 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: It's and there's there's thirty two floors in this hotel. 53 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: It's a big hotel. You're like, what's that movie with 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Macaulay Culkin where he lives? I mean, I feel like 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: there's like some movie with a kid who lives in 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: a hotel. If you guys know when you're listening, please 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: email us because our d m me whatever because I 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: cannot remember there. It's like Richie rich or did I 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: make this up? Um? No? I feel like, should I 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: write this movie about chick who lives in the Canadian 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: boy finds an orangutang in a hotel that's called Dustin Checks. 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Heead Where did you find that? Just just googled movie 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: kid Lives in Hotel. Wow, there's the Florida Project. We 64 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: don't I don't think we really have to find this. 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: One of our listeners will will know way more than 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: we do about this movie. So somebody please let us 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: know what it is. Um we are here, speaking of 68 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: the listeners. The reason I wanted to tell you that 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: story is because obviously we're here this week. Did you 70 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: listener emails? So I'll give you that, I'll give you 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: and if anyone else wants a voice in it from 72 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Chip doesn't are free now that we're not on came 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Do you know that I did not know that Instagram 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: does voice notes, and I got one this week from 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: another listener actually, and uh, well she was she's a listener, 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: but she also was at the conference I went to, 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: but we never crossed paths, and so she was like, 78 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're you were at this conference too, 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: and she sent me all this voice note about like 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: her experience. I was like, oh my god, you can 81 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: do that. Well, I this is the first time I've 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: ever done it. And I will warn you that you 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: know on your iPhone if you want to do a 84 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: voice that you can listen to it before it sends, 85 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: and this one when you stop recording, it just goes 86 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: yeah better better what you want to say? Wow? Um, 87 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: as people, I had a missed call on my Instagram 88 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: from my friends. Yeah, so if anyone wants to talk 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: to Chip, you guys should just call on on Instagram. 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: I think we I think you have to be following 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: each other. Oh each other. Yeah, I think you both 92 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: have call each other. I'm just trying to slide your 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: d ms with weird stuff. I mean, try calling me, 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: you never know, might answer casual. Anyway, let's get to 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: business here, because we actually to get through. I told 96 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: you guys when we were doing the Sex and Dating podcast, 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I had posted to two questions on my Instagram and 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Chip and I only got through the first one because 99 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: we got so many d ms from you guys. It's 100 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: amazing and it was so great. Everyone loved that podcast. 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: Chip post for you. Did I have a co host today? 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Does anyone know where is he? I'm right here. I'm 103 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: just in Canada. You're you're what you said? Got stopped 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: at the border COVID check. Just how to run a 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: little round quick? Sorry, Okay, he's probably on Dropbox again, 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I said a lot of people loved 107 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: that Sex and Dating podcast. I got so much feedback 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: from you guys of just some of the stuff resonating 109 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: with you or encouragement to me or um, just some 110 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: of the topics. I think a lot of people really 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: feel vulnerable around the topic of new beginnings around sex 112 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: and dating. It's like the universal thing, like we said 113 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: on that podcast. Well, I mean, look, I think that 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: sex and dating is always it always has like fear 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: attached to it in some way. You know, there's always 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: something to worry about. Ulnerable, and the like the doing 117 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: it again for the first time I think is magnified. 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: So that's probably the order you get. That's it from me. Like, 119 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: do you remember when you're in your twenties and you 120 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: broke up with somebody, You're like, fuck it here. Yeah, 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: it's like, let's go see what's out there, and it 122 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: was kind of almost exciting sometimes, where now it's just 123 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: it's hard and it's sad. And if you're an adult 124 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: or like doing any sort of self reflection and you're 125 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: kind of repeat being bad patterns and relationships, it's like 126 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: that thing that I've vined about where I'm just like 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: you gotta gotta stop for a second and look back 128 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: and be like, why am I repeating these patterns? Or 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: what did I bump up against with myself in this relationship? 130 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Or you know, like what you did like which didn't 131 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: like all of those things, you start asking yourself this question. 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: So it's just a little more serious. Well, it's definitely 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: more serious. And I think like, because we know ourselves 134 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: better as we reage, Like we know what we don't 135 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: like about other people, we know what we don't like 136 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: about ourselves. Like, there's all of those things come into play. 137 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, remember when you were like a kid, 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, I'm not I'm not going with 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Robert anymore. I'm going with John. You know, like it 140 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: literally going out what y'all going out? I think we 141 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: said going with who are you going with? It feels 142 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: very Canadian of you. I don't know why talking to 143 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: who are you talking to? Oh? Talking to you? That 144 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: was a little older for me. I remember how a 145 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: boyfriend in fifth grade I probably like spoke to him 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: three times in the hall. It was like that, you know, 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: actually he passed a note while you go out with me? Yes, 148 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: and then like right, like like where are you going? Right? 149 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: And your mom because math math today? But no, like 150 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: the group of guys would go something like to the 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: movies and the group of girls would meet them, and 152 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I was like, going out with his name is Morgan? 153 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Did you give a hand job? No? Oh my god? 154 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I was so innocent, wasn't you? A guy fingered a girl? 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: And when we were in high school on our period 156 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and everyone talks about it. Well, okay, first of all, 157 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: because let's talk about her ble like it's like that's 158 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: going to be your first experience being fingered on your period. 159 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's the only time to go out 160 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: with Johnny. You gotta just do it, are you Johnny? 161 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: Is that the taste of the story? Okay? I never 162 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: know with you? You know, No, I'm not Johnny, And 163 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: I could say the person's name, but I'm just he's 164 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: a cop now, so I don't need to get arrested. Okay, Okay, 165 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: we gotta do. We're acting way too casual right now. Anyway, 166 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I want to get to the second question, and then 167 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: we have some listener emails I want to get to 168 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: as well. But the second question that I put on 169 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: my Instagram was what do you want to know from 170 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: us about starting over in sex and dating? And so 171 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I picked the top questions and I am going to 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: read them now. Wait, your new microphone set up is 173 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: pretty dope. Thank you. You should see Kelly right now. 174 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: She looks like she's in a recording studio, like a 175 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: radio studio, except for my face. I looked terrible. Yeah, 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: so you guys are going to see her next week. No, 177 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to post this video. Didn't have time 178 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: to do anything with myself before this, but cover everything 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: with the microphone. Yeah, I'm just like, maybe I have 180 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: to post this video now so you can see how Yeah, okay, okay. 181 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: So this comes from Janine. She says when should milestones happen? 182 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: I e saying I love you wanting to move in 183 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: and talk about engagement hmmm from the two single people, well, 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: let us tell you. I mean, my opinion on it 185 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: is that you should do it when you really feel 186 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: like you want to talk about it, Like, yeah, I 187 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: agree with that. Um, It's it's like, I don't think 188 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: there should be rules for these sorts of things. Like 189 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: I believe that I believe in love at first sight. 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's like the best approach to 191 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, the second you walked in, 192 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: I fell in love with you. But I think that 193 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: like if I think it's possible to go home and 194 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: be like, holy sh it, this is the person that 195 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: I want to spend the rest of my life with 196 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: and UM, and then you just have to, like, I 197 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: think you have to say it when you feel like 198 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: it's the right time. UM. And I don't know that 199 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: there's a magic answer for that. I think you just 200 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: have to trust your gut on it, and you have 201 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: to be willing for the I'm not UM to reciprocate. 202 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: I I saw a meme UM the other day. I 203 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you sent it Tom Kelly, if I 204 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: just saw it, but it said UM. Someone asked like, 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: what's a good way to respond to somebody that tells 206 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: you that they love you and you you're not there yet? 207 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: And the response was, Hey, we're reading the same book. 208 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm just not to that chapter yet. Oh that's good. 209 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, I love that. So I think it's 210 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: important to follow your gut and do it when you 211 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: think UM is the right time. And I think talking 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: about engagement, like you can there's so many different levels 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: of that. It's like asking someone to marry you one thing, 214 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: but to be like, hey, like I like you, I'll 215 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: see a future. I can see engagement in our future. Like. 216 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: I think it's that's fair to talk about when you 217 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: just feel like it doesn't have to be a pressure situation. Yeah, 218 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: the engagement part, I do believe becomes a conversation between 219 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: the two of you about Yes, like what you just said, 220 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: I am feeling this. This is the way I feel 221 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: see this, this relationship going. Are you on the same 222 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: page even and like, what was the timeline for you? 223 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: Look like, um and just getting on the same page. 224 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: I love you thing. I love that response. I think 225 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: that's good because I think there's so many other factors 226 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: to like. I mean, you said you believe in love 227 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: love at first side, but I don't think you can 228 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: fall in love with somebody. I think you can have 229 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: a connection. This is my opinion. Um, the other parts 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: feel like lust or excitement or I've read a bunch 231 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: of stuff about just the hormones that can happen at 232 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: the beginning of a relationship. I think it's like the 233 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: first three months or something, and so real love comes 234 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: into play when you actually start experiencing real life together. 235 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: And um, I think that a lot of factors can happen, 236 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: like how quickly they moved into this relationship for their 237 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: last relationship, or just where they are in their life 238 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: can even play into this, or what their last relationship 239 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: experience was, like it was a terrible breakup. Someone might 240 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: be a little more hesitant and it doesn't mean they 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: don't have the feelings, but they could be fearful or scared. 242 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: So I just think it's like you said, you have 243 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: to follow your own gut and just own your own 244 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: truth and just be willing to put yourself out there, 245 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, without it necessarily being reciprocated back right. Well, 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: And I also yeah, and I also think too it's 247 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: like it might not feel really good in the moment 248 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: if someone doesn't reciprocate, but if it's not going to 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: work out, it's better to know sooner than later. Um, 250 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: And I agree with you on the love at first 251 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: sight thing. I think in hindsight you can look back 252 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: and be like, I knew that, but what you're feeling 253 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: that first night probably isn't true love, But like it 254 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: all becomes one thing and you can look back on 255 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: your first date and be like, the second you walked 256 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in that bar, I knew you were the one. Like yeah, 257 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: and that that is love at first sight. It's just 258 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten a true love yet, so love evolves too. 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Like I think you have this the first time you 260 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: say I love you, you're still like butterflies and all 261 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: this stuff. And it's like, but you can fall deeper 262 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: in love with people too as you grow and evolve together. 263 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: So I think it's just the love transitions into something 264 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: kind of different. Um, the moving thing. That's also it's 265 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: a very I don't know, I've done it where I've 266 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: done that too fast and that was too intense, um. 267 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: And then I've done it where I should have done 268 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: it quicker, and that kind of inhibited their relationship and 269 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: there was a lack of security because of that. Well, 270 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: there's also other factors like if you live in a 271 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: really expensive city where it makes sense to sort of 272 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: combine expenses, um, you might make that move sooner than later. 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: To um. I I do think that like it can 274 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: cause like problems that when you really see somebody ship, yes, 275 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: but it also cannot teach you if this is the 276 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: person that you can spend time with you know, like 277 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: it can those problems can work both ways. Um, but 278 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: if you're spending the night at someone tell us every 279 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: fucking night, like, you might as well save some money 280 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: on rent. Well, and I'll say too, as a girl, 281 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: it is a pain in the ass to be spending 282 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: so much time at someone's house and not have your ship, 283 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Like we need stuff, we need a blow dryer, we 284 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: need you know, and so. And then if if you 285 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of move in or you leave a bunch of 286 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: stuff over there, it's like it's still a pain in 287 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: the ask because you don't have half your just the 288 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: back and forth is exhausting, it's sucking, exhausting. And um, 289 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I think for that reason, it's a conversation that if 290 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: you find yourself in this situation, you just have to 291 00:15:53,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: have yeah, yeah, my my. Um. I never with my 292 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: boyfriend in Los Angeles. We ended up. When we moved 293 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: to Nashville, we moved in together, and um, he lived 294 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: like I mean, it wasn't that far away, but depending 295 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: on what hour of the day I drove there, Like 296 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: I could get there in eighteen minutes on the weekend 297 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: when there wasn't a ton of traffic. But on a 298 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: normal night it could take me an hour and that's 299 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: just a lot of time, you know, especially after work 300 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: you just want to go home. Yeah, I get that. 301 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know that we really helped anything here. 302 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: But the truth is, yeah, like Janine, I just think 303 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those questions. There isn't a right or wrong. 304 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing that we could list out as like this 305 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: is you know, six months to this and a year 306 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: to this. It really is based on each each relationship, 307 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: and it differs relationship to relationships. So my biggest thing 308 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to say to you is just stay true to yourself 309 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: and stay in touch with yourself and your wants and 310 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: your needs and hopefully you're in a relationship where you 311 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: can communicate that with your part and rappenly. Yeah, I 312 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: mean my mother would tell you not to move in 313 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: with somebody and tell you're married. So it depends on like, yeah, 314 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not like we're not Emily Post, we're not taking etiquette. Um, 315 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, I would much rather know that I'm about 316 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: to make a mistake married. So I was just thinking, 317 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: I don't think I want to get married before I 318 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: live with somebody, And you don't you try clothes on 319 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: before you leave the store, you know what I mean. 320 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: That's like, I mean, it's so funny because my mother 321 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: is like, why buy the cow when the milk is free? 322 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but like what if the milk 323 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: is sour? Right? You know, I just don't. I don't 324 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: think that I get what she's saying. And that's a 325 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: very old mentality, Like it's a it's an old programming thing. 326 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: And I mean that could work for a lot of people, 327 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: but if it's truly a relationship that's meant to work, 328 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: if they move in with you, it's not going to 329 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: be like I got what I needed from them. Yeah, 330 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, I agree. All let's move on. Let's move 331 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: on to Jessica. She says, thoughts on setting and sticking 332 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: to boundaries in regards to having sex with someone new. 333 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm personally terrible at boundaries, So take it a right, 334 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: I am to Jessica. You have really had to go there. Um, 335 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I am coming out of the drive. 336 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: But also I don't want any fucking boundaries when I 337 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: come to Seriously, Um, just knock on the door, I'll 338 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: do I'll do whatever. You don't even knock just come 339 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: in like you're the pizza delivery guy. Do you want 340 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: to Yeah, seriously, what are you in too? Um? No, 341 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: I do. Look, I think that um, every sexual encounter 342 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: should you should feel safe and UM it's the sooner 343 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: you start with boundaries, the easier they are to lay. 344 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: So if it's not something that you're comfortable with, I 345 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: think it's okay to be like yo, I don't or 346 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: that this doesn't feel good. I think you can just 347 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: say that like, hey, I don't really like that, or um, 348 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to try that now. UM. I think 349 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: you can work into the rearse to like if you 350 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: have kinks um, or like have fantasized about trying some things, like, um, 351 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: you might want to let that those things out of 352 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the bag. I wouldn't do it on the first date, 353 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: but like try to get to that, Like, if you 354 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: feel like you're sexually compatible, you might want to get 355 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: to them sooner than later so that like someone doesn't 356 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: think that you know, um, ye're into one thing and 357 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: then suddenly it's like the freak show comes out and 358 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: what the funk was this? Um? But uh, you know, 359 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's also like you can talk about those 360 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: things without even doing them for a while. Um. I 361 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: just it's just about open communication really, um. And I 362 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: think the sooner the better. Okay, I do feel like 363 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: the gay community is a little different than um. Like, 364 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: she's a girl writing and she's in a heterosexual situation, 365 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: and like I think the the well the game in 366 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: that I know are just a little looser and faster 367 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: because because y'all just don't I don't know, it's it's 368 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: just fun and exciting and what you basically your description 369 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, let's go. So as a female, let 370 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: me take this approach. I am I as an almost 371 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: forty year old. Now that is so weird to say, 372 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: but it's I think that I am finally figuring out 373 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: what I really want in a relationship and and I'm 374 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: also to a place where I have a different level 375 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: of confidence in myself and this is like very new 376 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: for me. But I'm kind of settling into I know 377 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: what I want and I'm like super unwilling to compromise 378 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: it anymore. Um. And that goes with sex too, So 379 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: for me, it's turned into like I'm not really I'm 380 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: not interested in just hooking up with people that actually 381 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: like does not interest me. At all, But I want 382 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: to be in a situation the next time I have 383 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: sex that is like very safe, like you said, but 384 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: also like I just know I'm valued and I'm seen 385 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: for who I am and all of those things first 386 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: and then to me sex and it is an extension 387 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: of that. Does that make sense? And so then it's 388 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: like I don't know. Then it is safe, and then 389 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: it is like whatever it turns into. I I mean, 390 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: it also makes it so much better. It makes it 391 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: so much better and deeper, and mentally, I was like, well, girl, 392 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: we don't need the details. I'm just I realized, to 393 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: use a really interesting word, there were joys. But yeah, 394 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna You're going to make him work for it. 395 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: I want to make him work for it because I 396 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: think I'm worth it. You're born again virgin am. I though, 397 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: um yeah, look, I don't want to sell flipping about 398 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it either. Um, but I do. Yeah, it's uh. I 399 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: think boundaries are good and bad. You know, like there's 400 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to because I don't want to say 401 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: the boundaries are bad because that's not true. They can 402 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: they can see, they can walls seem bad. Um, So 403 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: you know I think that Um, you like you you're 404 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: walking in with boundaries right now, is what you're saying, Like, 405 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: this is my boundary and it doesn't necessarily have to 406 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: be communicated on your first date. Life. No, buddy, you're 407 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: not getting you're not getting into my band. But that's 408 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: a boundary that you have set for yourself that is like, Okay, 409 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: this is my expectation, this is what I want is 410 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: a value myself. Um So, I mean, I guess your 411 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: answer would be to like start to start to figure 412 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: out what your boundaries are even before you're in the 413 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: room with somebody, right Yeah. I think it's more about 414 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the relationship with yourself because then you're gonna know really 415 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: quickly with someone that's not I'm not saying like, oh god, 416 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: you gotta wait six months until you have sex, you know, 417 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: or like this many dates until you have sex. I 418 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: don't think that's how it works. I think it's more 419 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: about a feeling, And it's about the feeling that you 420 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: get when you're around this person knowing that you have 421 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: the relationship with yourself that you have. And so if 422 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: I have my boundaries right now and I go in 423 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: with somebody and I'm like, Wow, they're really hot, and 424 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: you know, make me all excited. It's like, but but 425 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: like in the past, maybe I would have acted on 426 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: that versus like taking the time to to ask myself 427 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the questions like, but how do I feel like? Am 428 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I being authentically myself? Do I feel seen by this person? 429 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: You know? And maybe I do on the first date? 430 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but it just I just yeah, 431 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a number thing again. I 432 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: think it's more about the boundaries that I would say 433 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: would be boundaries with myself to know how I want 434 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: to feel, how I want to be treated, and how 435 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: I want to be respected by the person that I'm 436 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: giving myself to in that way. Yeah, well, I also 437 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: think too, it's like approaching something um with that sort 438 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: of intention, approaching sex with that sort of intention too. 439 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: It's like the one thing you can't control is whether 440 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: or not the relationship is going to work out. At 441 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: that point, you know it's but at least you can 442 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: feel good about UM, you know your approach to it 443 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: if you have done it with the intention UM to 444 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: serve yourself best. Yeah, and if it doesn't work out, 445 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: then like you don't feel like, well funk, I'm a horror. 446 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: That just sucked that dude, right, Yeah, there's no shame 447 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, it's just an experience that added to 448 00:24:52,520 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: your life story, right, Yeah, that you wanted. So yeah, yeah, Sarah, 449 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: she says, ten years into marriage and trying to reset 450 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: sex expectations, say, sex expectations ten times expectation. Let's just 451 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: make it work. One expectations ten years into. I mean, look, 452 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm not married, so I'm not really in the authority 453 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: of your longest relationship. It was like three years, Okay, 454 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I did a nine year once. Yeah, yeah, I get 455 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: what she's saying, because it shifts and like, definitely the 456 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: lust has worn off and we don't know if there's 457 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: children involved. Yeah, there's kids, there's jobs, there's life responsibilities, 458 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: there's house, there's like all the bills, there's so much 459 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: ship and who knows what they each relationship has been through. 460 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: And so it's definitely not this like fairy tale rom 461 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: com sich anymore. It is or just like hot you 462 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: know whatever. But I do think that that setting the 463 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: sexpectations about what's realistic is a good conversation. And also 464 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: it's like maybe spice things up within that, you know, 465 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: like add a little extra flare so that if it's 466 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: happening once a week, it's really fucking fun, right, Yeah, 467 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: And I think I think it was like it could 468 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: help to sort of revisit some of the things that 469 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: you loved when you were younger. Like I don't know, 470 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: it's like surprise your partner, you know, Like I mean 471 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: this could be a bad example, but like give him 472 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: a blowjob while driving, or have sex in the car, 473 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: like do things that like we're exciting back then that 474 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: like you might sound like might make you cringe a 475 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: little bit to think about, but like I do think 476 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: that there are ways to like find excitement makes sex 477 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: a little risky, you know, like, um, I can't think 478 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: of a good example, but like just yeah, I think 479 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: it's I think like that could be a fun way 480 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: to spice things back up without it being like you've 481 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: got to search for like weird toys or stuff that 482 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: like it's totally outside of your wheelhouse that would you know, 483 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: make you feel really uncomfortable. Um. And I like I 484 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: also think too, it's like, um, it's probably just really 485 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: important to talk about it, like make sure that your 486 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: partner knows that it's still important to you. Mm hmm. 487 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: You know. I mean people, I can't remember if it 488 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: was you I was talking about this with. But like 489 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: people always are like, oh, I don't want to schedule sex, 490 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: but life honestly gets so busy, and it's just like 491 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: maybe you schedule a date night and sex it's part 492 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: of that. But like I just think, and then it's 493 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: like do something nice for each other, or do something 494 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: different than sitting on your couch watching a show at night, 495 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: like spice things up that way. But like, if your 496 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: life is that busy, and especially if kids are involved, 497 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: maybe you have to schedule it a little bit. And 498 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: like I think that's okay. I've actually had some sex 499 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: therapists on here that have talked about that, and and 500 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: also they've said it can end up being really spicy 501 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: because then that day like start sending like naughty text 502 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: or something, you know, make it really fun, and so 503 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: then the build up is there, Um, buy some new lingerie, 504 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: like just do something that keeps it interesting, and like 505 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: that's what we do at the beginning of their relationship, 506 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, So don't just get so comfortable that you 507 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: stop doing the fun stuff, because that's why it's sucking fun. Well, 508 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and I think you know we did. We talked about 509 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: on here the scheduling a sex thing and like, to me, 510 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: the idea of like every Tuesday at seven thirty, we're 511 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: fucking like that sounds really boring and that sounds pressure. Yeah, totally. 512 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: But if you're at work on a Thursday and you're like, 513 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to fund the ship out of you tonight, 514 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, like that is scheduling. That's also a way 515 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: of scheduling sex. You know, like you said, an expectation 516 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: that it like it does it makes the a hotter. 517 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: You start to build the anticipation for it, like, um, 518 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: or I want you to fund the ship out of 519 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: me tonight, like let's do this. Um. You know that 520 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: to me is alsome. That's a really sexy way and 521 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: scheduling sex. I think like you set that expectation earlier 522 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: in the day or you just say like we're doing 523 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: date night on Saturday. Yeah um, And that that to 524 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: me is not cringe worthy scheduling. Okay, well, I'm glad 525 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that you feel that way. I mean, I actually think, 526 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: like I've been in relationships before, we've had to set 527 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: a date night because life was so hectic and so 528 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: every Tuesday was date night, you know, And so I 529 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: think it can be like that. But I actually looked 530 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: forward to it every week because it's like reconnecting with 531 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: your partner. You can do fun activities together, hopefully without 532 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: kids for a minute. And um yeah, and sex is 533 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: usually a part of that. And so I think it 534 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: just makes it. It's fun because at least you're like, Okay, 535 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: we're disconnected this weekend, but I know I have Tuesday 536 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: coming up, and so then then anticipation really built. Right. 537 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Um Mica asked, did I miss your post about a breakup? 538 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: Did you recently go through one trying to catch up? Yes? Yes, 539 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I need to say about it. Um dating, Oh, how 540 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: do you date in COVID age? It's so scary. Yeah. 541 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: I take your vitamins and just get back out there. 542 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: Be vaccinated. Well, being vaccinated doesn't stop you from getting it, clearly, 543 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: it does make your case. Yeah, it definitely makes your case. 544 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping the CDC keeps these changes coming to where 545 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: quarantine is not eight hundred days and it's five like 546 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, I hope it just all starts. 547 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: We start to operate like this is the flu like 548 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: everything else, you know, Um, and that will hopefully. I 549 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's shifting that way. I don't know, is 550 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: that just me? Is that my fantasy? No? I think 551 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: you're It turns you on, And I'm like, oh, COVID 552 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: lowering the protocols of COVID so hot. I hear the 553 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: CDC is gonna send a new message on Saturday, let's 554 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: plan the fuck. I always start talking about COVID andseexically, um, 555 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, assuming that our listeners are in 556 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: the US, I mean it's like ship, I'm in Ontario 557 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: right now, they're on lockdown again. Like there is real 558 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: fear out there for people depending on where they live. Um. 559 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that, um, you know, 560 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: a getting vaccinated will help, um, alleviate some of the 561 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: fear around all of this. But UM, I think you know, 562 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be a case by case basis based 563 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: on you know, how scared people are of this thing 564 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: because it is a scary, real thing. Um. I personally 565 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: live in a city that has forgotten that COVID exists. 566 00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: So do you guys Tennessee. I just went to Texas 567 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: because I was just in Texas and I was like, oh, no, 568 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: COVID here, interesting Okay, I was at a two hundred 569 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: person conference and yeah, COVID didn't exist. Yeah, so it, Um, 570 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel scary to me today. Um, you know, 571 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: I just, I just I hope that I expect the 572 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: best out of humanity, and I hope that people who 573 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: are sick decided to stay home even if they have 574 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: a date schedule. I love that you still expect the 575 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: best of humanity after this, because I'm like, why where 576 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: are you getting your information on that naive little kid? 577 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: It's sweet, it's real cute. Yeah, that just has not 578 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: been my takeaway unfortunately. Yeah, anyway, do you want to 579 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: talk more about COVID? We gotta stop. Okay. Um, so 580 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: that's that was it for the questions that I picked. 581 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: We just wanted to go out on that net, really 582 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: go out with a COVID bang bang? Is anyone still listening? 583 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: I wish you could see how she's working this microphone. 584 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: He keeps falling over as it's like ending you on 585 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the chip looks really inappropriate. I'm a hot mess today. 586 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: I feel I don't feel like I'm one of my 587 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: best hosting behavior. I think you look cute. Gee, thanks thanks? Okay, 588 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to go into so I got 589 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: so much feedback from you guys about this sober Curious 590 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: journey I've been on chip. I'm one day eight. What 591 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: do you think about I only know that because I 592 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: actually took the time to count before this podcast, which 593 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: is great. It's like you just forget for for me. 594 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I have and um, I feel amazing and I'm still 595 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: going strong with it and I still planned to. But 596 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: I did a whole podcast about how I just was 597 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: taking a little break from rinking. I think, but I 598 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: don't really know, Like I'm I'm just curious about what 599 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: this would feel like to remove alcohol from my life. 600 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: So if you haven't listened to that podcast, you can 601 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: go check it out. I think it's called Sober Curious. 602 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: It's definitely part of this New Beginnings month because it 603 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: is a new beginning for me. Um. But I wanted 604 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: to read some of the feedback that I got because 605 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: there was a couple of questions mixed into this. Sarah 606 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: said to me, I don't drink, and I haven't in 607 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: about ten years. The amount of people that make comments 608 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: about it is insane. The first question is why I 609 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: never had a bad relationship. It's just not a relationship 610 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: I wanted at all. People can't wrap their head around it. 611 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: I feel like people assume I was an alcoholic. So 612 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: she's saying, people come to her and she's like, oh, 613 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't drink or whatever, and they're like why, Yeah, 614 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: Allison says the same thing like our friend Allison who 615 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: doesn't drink. Yeah, And Alison has never had a problem 616 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: with She's just never been interested. And she's like, is 617 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: the biggest party animal I know, Like she's always allows 618 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: one to leave a party. Um, and she doesn't do 619 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: anything like yeah, no drugs, no alcohol. Yeah, She's just 620 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: it's just has never interested her. But yeah, she remarks 621 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: all the time that like how obvious it is that 622 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: it makes it's other people's discomfort with it. She's like, 623 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: she's like, I am perfectly comfortable being at a party 624 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: with the drunkest people in the world. Everyone's smoking weed. 625 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: Like she doesn't care, She's not judging anybody. She's just here, 626 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: not fun. She's like, why are people judging me? Right, 627 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable. You know what it is though, And I 628 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: truly believe this, And I actually remember this from when 629 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: I was drinking, Like I act like it was like 630 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: so long ago drink back when I used to drink 631 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: eighty eight days ago. Um. But it's like it just 632 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: makes you uncomfortable if you're drinking and you're getting hammered 633 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 1: because you realize they're sober eyes on you. And so 634 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: when everyone else is doing it, usually people are pretty 635 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: on par with saying stupid ship or dancing around like 636 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: a fool. It's what you're doing that you start to 637 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: have to question if someone else is not doing right. 638 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: So it really has nothing to do with the sober person. 639 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: And like I feel the same. I still have been 640 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: going out and going to dinners and I still want 641 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: to go dance. Like it doesn't it's not stopped me 642 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: from doing the things that I want to do. We 643 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: just went to the Bahamas and like there was a 644 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of alcohol flowing and it was fine. It's just 645 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: like I'm still having fun with my friends, and it's like, 646 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: you guys are my friends because you're my friends, not 647 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: because we just are drinking buddies. So the biggest thing 648 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: that's made me question or think about is like I 649 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: really only want to be around people that when I'm 650 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: not drinking, I want to actually be around, right, I 651 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: mean that's a really good point. Like, I think if 652 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: somebody is uncomfortable with the fact that yourselber, it's because 653 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: it's like it is a much deeper shame than I 654 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: could even put my finger on, Like you know, it's 655 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: like there's some weird shame that's going on. It's like, 656 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: that's the dumbest Why aren't you drinking? Yeah, it's not 657 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: none of your business because I don't want to Why 658 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I don't want to drink every day, even 659 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: when I'm with my friends. Like sometimes I'm just like, 660 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: you know what, I just want to water tonight, Like, 661 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: and if someone said why, I'd be like, because I 662 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: want to the water, right. It's just actually, like, I mean, 663 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: there has to be some sort of response we can 664 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: come up with to those kind of people who if 665 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: they're like, why why are you drinking? I mean it 666 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: back at m I think that's the thing that this 667 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: book I'm reading, um Quit Like a Woman talks about 668 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: is just how normalized over drinking. It's like our culture 669 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: is obsessed with drinking, and advertising makes some people companies 670 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: make so much money on alcohol, and so it's just 671 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: like constantly programmed into it's it's glamorized, it's sexualized, it's 672 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: all the things, and so when much likely yes, So 673 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: then it's like someone says I'm not drinking, and um, 674 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: people's what what? And it's like why is We start 675 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: saying back to them, why is that your question? Like? 676 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: Who cares? Why are you? Why do you expect everyone 677 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: to drink? That's the bigger issue. Well, I mean the 678 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: programming starts at this a young age too. It's like 679 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: the cool kids in high school. I'm doing air quotes 680 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: for those who aren't looking. The cool kids in high 681 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: school are generally the ones that like drink first, so 682 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: it becomes a thing that cool people do, and then 683 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: the people that were less inclined to drink in the 684 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: first place they drink to fit in. It's this weird 685 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: programming things that starts at a very young age and 686 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: suddenly like if you don't drink, you're not cool, and 687 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: it that carries on through life and it's just it's 688 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: not true. Right. I have noticed that there's certain situations 689 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: where I just want to have a soda, water and 690 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: a lime in my hand more than others. And usually 691 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: it has to do with I just don't feel like 692 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: dealing with people being like, oh, you're not drinking what 693 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: or like just just it's like literally to make other 694 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: people more comfortable. It's weird. I'll probably get over that though, 695 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: pretty soon. I do love to buy Alison and like 696 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite things. Like I'll go like 697 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: get around of drinks at the bar and I'll be like, 698 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: I got you. She doesn't even drink it just funny 699 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: dot yeah even good. Haneken has one called the double zero, Right. 700 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people drinking as these days. 701 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's just make it a thing. There's 702 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: all sorts of options out there these days. So Taylor said, 703 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: today's episode brings she's talking about this souber curious episode. 704 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,479 Speaker 1: Today's episode brings so many feelings. First, you should listen 705 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: to First, you should listen to the episode of You 706 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: Need Therapy from Amy Brown's podcast Next Network. I'm sure 707 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: you know it. I do, Taylor, because I'm also want 708 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: Same Network. It came out on March eighth, and it's 709 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: called The Gray Area of Drinking. I'm very much like Chip, 710 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: I can take your leave drinking. However, my husband is 711 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: much like you. He was mindlessly drinking not realizing it 712 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: was suppressing so many emotions. He decided to be sober 713 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: for an undecided amount of time and he is coming 714 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: on two years. That's awesome, by the way, um he 715 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: says the same thing. He doesn't miss it. And it's 716 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: crazy how much our culture survives off of drinking in 717 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: every activity. That episode has really helped me understand him 718 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: better and him to understand that he isn't an alcoholic. 719 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: Thank you for talking about this. It will help a 720 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: lot more people than you realize. I have two things 721 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: to say. One, if anyone is listening in Questioning and 722 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: Drinking and has you know, has a problem with alcohol 723 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: or is an alcoholic or identifies in an as an alcoholic, 724 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: I don't there's no shame in that either. And that's 725 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear about that. Like, you 726 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: are so worthy of all the things and whatever. You 727 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: have a drinking problem, go get help. It's it's like, 728 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: so there's steps to help you do this. And I 729 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: don't want us to sit here and be like, he's 730 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: not an acoholic though, and that be the like message 731 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: and putting out you know. Um, so if that is 732 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: the case in your life, like the courageous thing is 733 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: to go get help, I believe, and um, it's a 734 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: hard process for some but like it's okay too, And 735 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I do other twelve stepwork 736 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: because I just wanted to make sure I'm not like saying, well, 737 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't identify as an alcoholic in a shaming way 738 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: to anyone, but I don't identify as an alcoholic. I 739 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: do identify as other things. And so you know, I'm 740 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: doing the work around that to help myself have a 741 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 1: more fulfilling life. But um, that's why those programs are there, 742 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: and they're so helpful and so much support and so 743 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: much understanding, and so let's take the shame out of it. Um. 744 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: But I do think that the whole point again being 745 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: how much our culture puts around this drinking stuff. I 746 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: kind of forgot the second thing I was gonna says, 747 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: But it's it's just about like the I think the 748 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: more people just get honest with themselves and say, like, yeah, 749 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what drinking is even bring into my life, 750 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Like do I even like it anymore? That was sort 751 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: of how I felt like. It was, just like I 752 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: don't know what's the positive here. I just couldn't find it. Anymore. Right, Yeah, 753 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: I I think it's like to going back to the 754 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: last question we're talking about, like the question like, well, 755 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: why aren't you drinking? I mean, I think more people 756 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: need to ask exactly, he said, ask yourself, why are you? Um? 757 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, and I think it's because a lot of 758 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: people just drink because it's time to drink, you know. Um. 759 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: We've been sold that, um through advertising and just programming 760 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: and um. And that's fine. If you're choosing to drink 761 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: because you have fun and you want to drink, like, 762 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: no judgment. Um. If you think that you have a problem, 763 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 1: you should seek help, because you probably do. I want 764 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: to start saying to people, I just thought of it. 765 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: What is it someone says to me? Why, I'm just 766 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, what's your fationship with alcohol? Yeah? Because 767 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: I swear to God it will make every single person 768 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable exactly, But stop asking me that damn question. 769 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: Let me live my life. UM. Sorry I cut you off. 770 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: It's we're saying the same thing, so um, and I 771 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: forgot what I was saying anyway, So we're nailing it today. 772 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: We are nailing it. Oh wait, well, so what's your 773 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: relationship with alcohol? My relationship right now is that there 774 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: is none to be had. So even if I wanted 775 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: to drink Canada, is that Canada doesn't have alcohol. Well, 776 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: you know what's funny is the only store that is 777 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: open in this hotel is the wine store. We're back 778 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: in lockdown, so right, yeah, everybody needs a bottle of wine. 779 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, this comes from m she said. Okay, I 780 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: see what you're saying a little bit because I want 781 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: to say this too. I get so many messages from 782 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: you guys that are so encouraging and inspiring and just 783 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: like telling me your stories about something you heard that 784 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: really helped you, and I relish in those. They make 785 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: my day. They make everything that I do with this 786 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: podcast worth it um, and it's so encouraging it makes 787 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: me want to keep going. And I feel sort of 788 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: like a douchebag being like, oh, look at this person 789 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: telling me how much I helped them, Like you know, 790 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: so I would never read them out loud, but I 791 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: want you to know how much they mean to me. 792 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: And I screenshot all of them, every single one of them. 793 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: I have a folder on my phone of just encouraging things. 794 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: So when I have bad days or I'm like is 795 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: anyone even listening? You know that kind of feeling. I 796 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: go read those and I'm like, yes, this helped Susan. 797 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: It didn't help Susan, but like it. It makes it 798 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: all worth it. Even if it was one person, it 799 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: would make it worth it to me. So thank you 800 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for those messages. They 801 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: do not go lost or they're not lost on me 802 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: at all. This one is like sort of like that. 803 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 1: So I feel a little bit do she being like, listen, 804 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: how much I am helping this person? But I'm gonna 805 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: read this because I think she had more um to 806 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: say that. The reason I wanted to read it I 807 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: remember now wh I've screened at it. It's just like 808 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: an encouragement of anyone who's considering the not drinking thing too, 809 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: or just taking a break even always d m me 810 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: if you have questions or it's hard or it's a 811 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 1: hard day, or you're like what does this look like? 812 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: And how do I do this on a day to day? Um, 813 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: But also know that they were going to be people 814 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: in your life who really do encourage you. And I 815 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: think a lot of people now are just really leaning 816 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: into how difficult that journey might be because of the 817 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: way our culture operates around alcohol, and um, I don't know. 818 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: I've just I've gotten so much encouragement you would dodge 819 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: if it's crazy. It's just like hundreds of messages from people, 820 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: and so many messages from people who are saying, I've 821 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: been doing this too, but thank you for being public 822 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: about it and trying to normalize this because it's isolating, 823 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: you know. So anyway, the message says, I just wanted 824 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: to say how inspiring you are too many with your 825 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: sober journey, and with each day comes another level of 826 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: bravery and vulnerability, especially with the world watching and listening. 827 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: You're so strong and you might not know, but you're 828 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: another person's strength. Keep doing you for you, and I'm 829 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: so excited to see all the amazing things that continue 830 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: to unravel for you. Happy New Years to you and 831 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: your story. Cheers. So it was that one line that said, 832 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: you're so strong and you might not know it, but 833 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: you're another person's strength. So I just I think it's 834 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: really important that we just keep telling our stories, even 835 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: are vulnerable ones, because people listening like there's always someone 836 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: affected by it in general, in life. This isn't just 837 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: for us, but we just a bigger platform than you 838 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 1: know some people might on a day to day Well. Yeah, 839 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's like even friend to friend level, 840 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: like share what you're going through, right, talk to your friends. Yeah, 841 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: talk to your friends, talk to your family, like, talk 842 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: to you have a support system. Isn't it amazing how 843 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 1: much that doesn't happen. Yeah, it's well because we're often 844 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: so tied to the outcome of well, if I say 845 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: this to somebody, it's gonna do this or they're going 846 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: to react in this way, and it's like, no, funk. 847 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: The outcome, like what you need is the release often 848 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: of like getting something off of your chest or um, 849 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: taking a step forward whatever it is that you need, 850 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: and you're taking a step toward it, um, And it 851 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: can be so freeing just to like take that step. Um. 852 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think like I've learned a lot 853 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: about myself just by joining this podcast and yeah, just 854 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: sharing things, like you know, I've said things about myself 855 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: on here that I don't know that I've would have 856 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: ever said. I learned a lot about you on the uh. Well, yeah, 857 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's like this is like the exercise of 858 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: doing this is like taught me that sometimes just saying 859 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: things about yourself is really freeing and it's not gonna 860 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: be the end of the world, and it's it's been 861 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. So before you know what, you could be 862 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: sending voice notes to random stranger. Yeah, all right, this 863 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 1: comes from this Girl's name is Jenny Garth, and I'm like, 864 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: I love it, she said, souber curious here, Hi, Kelly, 865 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: and Ship. I was so happy to see that today's 866 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: podcast topic was sober curious. I began a one day 867 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: alcohol free challenge at the end of November. I'm currently 868 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,959 Speaker 1: on day forty four. This was actually a while ago 869 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: that she sent this to me, so just further than 870 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: that now. But good for you, Jenny, that's awesome. But 871 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: like you, Kelly, I don't know the number off hand anymore. 872 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: It's just become a normal I started drinking more during 873 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: quarantine like the rest of the world, But once my 874 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: life began to its somewhat back to normal, my drinking 875 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: did not return to normal. This is exactly what happened 876 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: to me. I knew I needed to experience life without it. 877 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: Without it for a while, I was ready, and I 878 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: decided on a date to start and ended up kicking 879 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: it off a day earlier than I planned. I have 880 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: noticed that I'm much more focused. My skin looks so 881 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: much better, I'm happier, and my anxiety is gone. I 882 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: had a few social gatherings over the past forty four days, 883 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: and I have not struggled to say sober at them. 884 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: You're right that other people's reactions are the issues, but 885 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: I really think that it's more about them not wanting 886 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: to think about their own drinking habits. I don't know 887 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: what will happen over after these next one after these 888 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: one days, I may pick up a drink or I 889 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: may not, but it may. It made me see that 890 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: life without it is pretty great and I'm really not 891 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: missing anything. Bonus, there's an app that tracks money and 892 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: calories saved so far, this is crazy. I have saved 893 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 1: six hundred dollars and over two sorry, twenty six thousand calories. 894 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: Now please open that alcohol eat bar. I really should. Jeez, 895 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: thanks for all the laughs and so glad you're I 896 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 1: mean right, it's like since what I'm telling you, I 897 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: literally lost five pounds, which like on me, is not 898 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,359 Speaker 1: really a good thing. Actually, I've been trying to put 899 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: it back on, but I just stopping drinking wine. I 900 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: didn't realize. I'm like, oh, my face is all of 901 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, like a lot skinnier. This is crazy. It 902 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: was like swollen from all the sugar. Um. The anxiety 903 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: being being gone is a huge thing. Like I don't 904 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: think we realized the ups and downs, like like the 905 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: toll that drinking puts on your emotional state. But it 906 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: is a depressant and we just never talk about that. 907 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,720 Speaker 1: I mean unless it's like when you're having a scary 908 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 1: Sunday or something like that. But it's like, no, every 909 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: time you drink, it really is contributing to that, and 910 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,800 Speaker 1: so people use it for this way to like soothe 911 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: their anxiety at the end of the hard day. But 912 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: it's like that's actually like not the right route if 913 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: you actually want to see your anxiety, because it's only 914 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: going to exacerbate any issue you might have there. Yeah, 915 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: I do think, I mean it's been marketed that way though. Yeah, 916 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: unwind at the end of the day exactly. Um, okay, 917 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: moving on from the drinking. This comes from I can't 918 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: see your name because the screenshot it and it didn't 919 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: sure her name, so we'll call her Katie. Um. Oh, 920 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: this one is from Katie. Okay, that's where I saw 921 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: that I'm just a psychic. So basically I've been Oh, 922 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: this is really sad. This message made me really upset. 923 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: She said, Hey, Kelly, do you have any advice on 924 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 1: being treated badly by coworkers and how to deal with it? 925 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: Any podcast on this topic. I treat others how I 926 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: want to be treated and struggle when I'm threatened badly. 927 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: And I was like, I can address on the podcast, 928 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: but can you tell me more? And she said so, Basically, 929 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: I've been through so much workplace bullying. I'm I work 930 00:51:53,560 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: in an early childhood preschool, I mean um early childhood preschool, 931 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 1: and I have some terrible experiences that made me want 932 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: to leave the industry forever. My anxiety got so much 933 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: worse as a result, and I became burnt out. I'm 934 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: better now, but I still struggle when I speak professionally 935 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: and respectfully and the person either ignores me, is rude, 936 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: or snaps those kind of things which can make it 937 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: hard to get the job done. Yesterday I also felt like, 938 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: why do I bother being so kind to everyone and 939 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: going above and beyond when some people are just so rude? Back. 940 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to be so kind to 941 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: people who aren't to me, but I also won't stoop 942 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: to their level, if you get what I mean, what 943 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: do I do? I think that you should keeping you 944 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: like the world needs more people like you, and um, 945 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: you cannot internalize the fact that these people are assholes. 946 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you, and UM, I 947 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: think you should continue to kill them with kindness and UM. 948 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: You know. I know it sounds like non advice to 949 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: be like, well, don't let it bother you, because it 950 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: clearly does. But I think you need to remind yourself 951 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: every day that you're a nice person who approaches life 952 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 1: with kindness and UM. What you're doing is um is 953 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:25,399 Speaker 1: good and UM and it's necessary in the world. So 954 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: try not to let it affect you because it probably 955 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: has literally nothing to do with you. And UM. If 956 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: someone is not in a position or a place in 957 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 1: their life to accept your kindness, um, you know, keep 958 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: giving it to them because they probably need it, right. 959 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean. Also, I'm just like, do they not have 960 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 1: HR or some sort of like weird right? Why is 961 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: this happening? I can't really understand why adults would behave 962 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: that way. But also the one thing that I would 963 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: definitely say is you know how they always say the 964 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: way someone treats you is a direct reflection of what's 965 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: happening inside of them versus actually something with you. And 966 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: so that's another thing to really remember. If someone is 967 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: bullying you, bullying you at a preschool, I mean, what, 968 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: this is crazy, but that's about them, it really is. 969 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: And so I hate that it makes you, you know, 970 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: have more anxiety than normal. And I can understand why, 971 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 1: I especially if you're spending so much time there each week. 972 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: There are some podcasts I've put up about anxiety and 973 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: then like tricks to get through Anxiety UM meditation podcast. 974 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: There's one with tapp with Brad. He's an amazing He 975 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: helps you tap on certain parts of your body that 976 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: helped really solve your soothe your body. Excuse me. Um. 977 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to like an E. M. D 978 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: R type therapy and that could be a good way 979 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: to start your day. Or maybe put some affirmations on 980 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: your mirror and say them before you go to school 981 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 1: every day until your brain starts to believe it. Um. 982 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, and also like maybe look for a new job. 983 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: Also it sounds like a way you want to spend 984 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: your life. You know, if assuming that the person who's 985 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: bullying you isn't the boss, I think you need to 986 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: take it up with them because you know, kids, kids 987 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: absorb what's going on around them. And and if bullying 988 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: is happening amongst the faculty of a preschool, right, um, yeah, 989 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: what kind of lessons are being taught to the children. 990 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: So if I were the owner or the manager or whatever, 991 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: the person that sits at the top, um, I would 992 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: want to know that that kind of stuff is going 993 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: on because I wouldn't want those types of people working 994 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: in my organization. Yeah, so I think the best thing 995 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: that I would say is just remember to always like, 996 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: never abandon yourself here and what you need to do 997 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: for you to keep yourself in a healthy headspace before 998 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: you go to work, during work, um, after work, just 999 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: take care of yourself and yeah, we're here if you 1000 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: need us. Because that sounds hard, Yeah, I don't like it. 1001 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 1: It needs to be an environment where you feel safe. Also, 1002 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here acting like it's crazy to be bullied 1003 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: as an adult, yet I was also bullied as an 1004 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: adult recently on national television, and it is crazy. But 1005 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: you know what I've walked away from that, really really 1006 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: learning is we can't control other people, especially their projection 1007 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: of what's happening internally for them went to us. I 1008 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: took it so personally and it hurts so much, and 1009 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,240 Speaker 1: I was super fucking angry even for a really long time, 1010 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: and even recently I had a conversation. Didn't even tell 1011 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: you this. I had a conversation with one of the 1012 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: producers from Very Cavalry, and Um, I got a lot 1013 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: of insight, first of all, but also I just got 1014 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: a lot of peace because we kind of made amends 1015 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: with each other, and um, yeah, it was what I 1016 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 1: thought it was and the best thing that I've ever 1017 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: gotten to And the like acceptance piece of what was 1018 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: happening was a direct reflection of the other person involved 1019 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: in my scenario, and that's what can you do about that. 1020 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: You can't do about that. So I didn't like the 1021 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 1: symptoms of that thing, and because of that, the relationship 1022 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: will never exist again. Um. But yeah, it's just it's 1023 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: really not personal a lot of times what people do. Yeah, 1024 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: and it's I guess it's from the outside looking in 1025 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: and with some space between it happening and today, it's 1026 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: you can look back on it or I could say like, um, yeah, 1027 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: you just can't buy into that, but it's happening to you. 1028 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's happening, and in that particular instance, like 1029 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: it was happening to you publicly, so it was like yeah, 1030 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 1: I think like truthfully, you were more worried about that 1031 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: the perception because you're like, this is what people are 1032 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: going to think of me, but I think it wasn't true. Yeah, 1033 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: so it's but I think like in those moments, and 1034 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: this is such a a unique scenario because like, oh 1035 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,520 Speaker 1: my god, that happened to me. But there is like 1036 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, like someone at work can be like she's 1037 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: sleeping with everybody, you know, like they can say things 1038 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: that are not true. I think that like you have 1039 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: to know yourself and not have to worry about what 1040 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,320 Speaker 1: people are saying about you and how people are judging 1041 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: you and all of that. Ship Like I think as 1042 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: you get older, um, and you experience more life, like 1043 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: you you learned that um, yeah, well you just said 1044 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: that that that I cared so much because um of 1045 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: the perception and that it wasn't it's not true for 1046 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 1: me and it wasn't what happened at all, and so 1047 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 1: that was really difficult. But I think I can relate 1048 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: it back to our listeners email in the way that 1049 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: I took it so personal, because you know, it was 1050 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: a nine year relationship, it was a real friendship. It 1051 00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: was a real friendship, and it really fucking hurt. And 1052 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: so for me personally, there's a lot of grieving involved. 1053 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: And so I don't know if you feel that coming 1054 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: home from school every day, but I feel for you 1055 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: because that is a tough part of this process, and 1056 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: it's a tough part of getting past what other people 1057 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: are saying to you or saying about you, or all 1058 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: of those things. And so I think that it is 1059 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: important to feel those feelings as uncomfortable as they maybe 1060 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: or like I didn't want to feel them because I 1061 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to be dealing with that and it was 1062 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: very frustrating, um, but it's important. I mean, there was 1063 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: multiple days I got in my backyard and beat the 1064 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: ship out of an old trash can with a bat 1065 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: because I was so mad, you know, or like I 1066 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: started boxing. It's like, there's all these things that I've 1067 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: done to get these feelings out of my body, and 1068 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important part of this process. 1069 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: And what's happened for me now is, um, I've run 1070 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: into some other people from that situation, and I just don't. 1071 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't affect me the same way. Like it's not 1072 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: like I'm like thrilled about it, but I don't. It 1073 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have this power over me to make me crumble 1074 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: the way it would have in the past. And UM, 1075 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: I just think you have to get to acceptance within 1076 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: yourself and stop looking for it from those kind of 1077 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: people because they're just not capable at all. Right, Okay, 1078 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: last one, This one comes from Anna, and she said, 1079 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: mine's too long to type, but I'm gonna keep it 1080 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: real with you. I legit have sex and dating anxiety 1081 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: because the last I dated, the last guy I dated 1082 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: and had sex with, I didn't really care for him 1083 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: that much l O L and I hated every time 1084 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: we had sex. It's a weird feeling, kind of hard 1085 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: to explain, I guess. So now I'm scared to fall 1086 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: into that situation again. So I said, can I ask 1087 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: some questions? She said, yes, worry all in a relationship 1088 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: or just casual sex? She said, in a relationship for 1089 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: a little over a year, Okay, I said, this is interesting. 1090 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Let me think on it. We'll address on the podcast. 1091 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 1: She said, I've never felt like this before. It was 1092 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: just so weird. Um. I said, how did it end? 1093 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: And she said, I think I realized I liked the 1094 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 1: idea of him and what he could be, and not 1095 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: not actually him. I thought sex would get better and 1096 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: was also confused that there was something wrong with me. 1097 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I sound like an asshole. I felt bad for like 1098 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: a week after we break up. Broke up, but then 1099 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: I remembered what a douchebag asshole he was, and I 1100 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: was mad at myself that I stayed with him for 1101 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 1: so long. I just I'm scared to make the mistake again. Yeah, 1102 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: you can't answer. Yeah, she's looking for advice here, Bud. 1103 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. I'm gonna let you take 1104 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: this one. Why you think this is right up my alley? 1105 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: Shots fired is what you're trying to say a little bit. 1106 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's shots fired. Um, all right, 1107 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: I'll take it. God, you can't. We can't sit here 1108 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: in silence. It's the do do do do? Do? Do Do 1109 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: do do? I when I read that email the first time, 1110 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: are sorry? It was a d M. I um immediately 1111 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: thought of times in my life where I've self abandoned 1112 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and to me, if I'm not in myself and I'm 1113 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,880 Speaker 1: just doing something for the sake of doing it because 1114 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I should, or because the other person 1115 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: wants to I especially sex, I can't connect either and 1116 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 1: I don't like it, you know. And so I think 1117 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: as women, there is a huge pressure to do that. Unfortunately, 1118 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: like it's subconscious. I don't think we know we're doing it, 1119 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of programming around like just go 1120 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: be the good wife or the good girlfriend or this 1121 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: is what we do, you know. And I'm obviously just 1122 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: starting to break out of that mentality myself, like it's 1123 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: just like, no, it's not. No, it's not We deserve 1124 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 1: to have the same kind of happiness as anyone and 1125 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: that programming needs to die. So I just hear a 1126 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of that in here. It's just like while we 1127 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: were dating for years, I thought I had to or 1128 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: I up to having sex with them, but I didn't 1129 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: like it, you know. And it's like instead of us 1130 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: saying ourselves, huh, my body is just like not responding, well, 1131 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't like this. We're sort of like stuff that 1132 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: feeling down and we let our minds take over and 1133 01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 1: we're like, but I should like this, so I'm gonna 1134 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: do it. The funny thing I thought was at the 1135 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: end of it, she says, I walked away and after 1136 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: a week of being sad, I remembered what a douchebag 1137 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: asshole it was. And I'm like, so, of course you 1138 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to have sex with them. Who wants to 1139 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: day to doucee bag douchebag asshole? Yeah, I mean it's 1140 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us UM find ourselves in 1141 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: situations that go on well past their expiration date, you know, 1142 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 1: and it can be scary because like when you end 1143 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: a relationship with somebody, it's it can change a lot 1144 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: of things in your life. You know, it changes your schedule, 1145 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: your habits, it might change where you live if you're 1146 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: living together. Like there there can be a dominoque to 1147 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: um finally sort of uh accepting the truth of you 1148 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: not being happy in the situation, and it is really scary. 1149 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, my my last relationship, like I UM, I 1150 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: couldn't put my finger on why I wasn't happy, and 1151 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't abusive and we weren't fighting, like, 1152 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: but I just wasn't happy and um, and I let 1153 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: it drag on for longer than it should have, and 1154 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: it was I think there was also fear of like 1155 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 1: hurting him, I know, I know, like, Um, I realized 1156 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 1: it was self I knew it was selfish. Um. I 1157 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 1: just couldn't put my finger on it. You know. So 1158 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 1: even when we finally got to the breakup portion, um, 1159 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: the like act of breaking up, like I didn't know 1160 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: what to say, like, you know, I felt like a 1161 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: cow word um and um. But the truth was I 1162 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: just wasn't into it, like I had fallen out of love. 1163 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: And it's like what a mean thing to say to something, 1164 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Like it's just such a hurtful thing to say to somebody, 1165 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: but it's it was even worse like having him every 1166 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: day feel like walking on eggshells around me and like 1167 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: what is going on here? And um, and there was, 1168 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, there was. You can love a human without 1169 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: being in love with them, you know, And it's, um, 1170 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: the literally last thing you want to do is have 1171 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: sex with somebody when you're well, like when you're in 1172 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 1: that position like you're just like because it's you're you're 1173 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: mad at yourself. Um um. You know, obviously my situation 1174 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: was different because he wasn't a douche bag, you know, like, 1175 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,080 Speaker 1: but I do think probably there were similarities because I 1176 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: was scared of what my life was going to become, 1177 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: because I had gotten used to this being my life. 1178 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: So I think that like, people find themselves in that 1179 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 1: situation a lot, like even when there's like abuse and 1180 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 1: things like, like you're just scared of change, and in 1181 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: those situations, I think it's always best just to um um, 1182 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 1: choose yourself. Like I know it feels really selfish and um, 1183 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: but you have you feel so much better once you 1184 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 1: choose yourself. I agree with that. Yeah, stop self abandoning 1185 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: and choose yourself. And the way I think you avoided 1186 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,959 Speaker 1: in the next relationship is to know what you want, 1187 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: so make the list. Like you know, something that's so 1188 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: interesting about me? I you know, I do all this 1189 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 1: work right, like I'm I love let me say and 1190 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: let me take that back. I see so much value 1191 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: in therapy, in spiritual work and connection and you know, 1192 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 1: healing old traumas and growing as a person that stuff. 1193 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm constantly reading books and trying different kinds of 1194 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: help and all that stuff, and do you know it 1195 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: was never on my list in a partner until now 1196 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: they know that they are on a spiritual journey of 1197 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: their own. Literally, why the funk is that not at 1198 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: the top of my list? It's literally probably the most 1199 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: important thing to me in my own life, and I 1200 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,840 Speaker 1: have not had enough self awareness about that being as 1201 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: important to me as it was or is until now. Yeah, 1202 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: I just want so interesting. It is interesting, But I 1203 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: feel like, but we also hear things like opposites attract, 1204 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: like don't date yourself, Like there's those things that like 1205 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:48,600 Speaker 1: you're hearing too that like play into that. Like I just, honestly, 1206 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it was more like I just wasn't being 1207 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: honest with myself or I wasn't I think I was 1208 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: scared it didn't exist, and so I got scared to 1209 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: even write it down or ask for it. Right. And 1210 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: the thing about opposites attract this this lady I follow 1211 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Amy Chance. She's also been on the podcast She's like 1212 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,439 Speaker 1: the Breakup boot Camp Expert. She actually posted something about 1213 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that today, oddly, which is funny that you said it, 1214 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: but she said, we're told that, but actually in most 1215 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: successful marriages that people have very similar values, they have 1216 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: very similar or they have similar interests of some sort, 1217 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,839 Speaker 1: and they even are like the same level of attractedness, 1218 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's actually attractiveness. You're right, thank you? Um, 1219 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, like because then so that actually isn't opposite. 1220 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's gonna be things you're not completely 1221 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: aligned on or whatever. But I think it really is 1222 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 1: important to really ask yourself, like what are your core 1223 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: values and what are the things that you just like 1224 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: you're non negotiables, you know, and not straight away from that. 1225 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: I know anytime I've done that in my life, the 1226 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 1: relationship explodes, right right, Yeah, I mean yeah, I think 1227 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: you can look back on any other relationships in your 1228 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: life that didn't work and probably go back to the 1229 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: first week and identified a lot of the red flags 1230 01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: where you're like, well why did this wasn't gonna work? 1231 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 1: But like the sex was great or you know, not 1232 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: that you were having sex in the first week, but 1233 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:34,720 Speaker 1: um yeah, oh yeah, give me hot Hey tonight after 1234 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 1: work we're going to talk about nobody give you a 1235 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: PCR where we get off nasal swabs the negative result. Um. Anyway, 1236 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure like you can look back on things most 1237 01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: relationships that end up Boreley and be like, oh well, ship, 1238 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: all the signs were there. I saw them, and I 1239 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: chose to fucking step right over that because of the shilds, 1240 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: like we should all over ourselves, because most of us 1241 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 1: were also programmed that we have to be in fucking relationships, 1242 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: you know, like I it's it starts as a child. 1243 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:24,719 Speaker 1: It's like fucking princesses, Barbie and Ken like, you know, it's, yeah, 1244 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: why why isn't there a Disney move about loving yourself? Right? 1245 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: I think they're starting to make that transition, I heard 1246 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 1: because they've gotten so much ship about the toxic kind 1247 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: of relationships. They're pitching the kids, like the woman comes 1248 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 1: and gets rescued and it's like, then her life is 1249 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: great and whatever. I'm like, that's a recipe for love addiction. 1250 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: Whoah the shiny night. Yeah. I mean, seriously, Disney better 1251 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,839 Speaker 1: come with some self love asap or they're like totally canceled. Anyway. 1252 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 1: I think it all goes back to to know what 1253 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 1: you want yourself and not to be aired like it 1254 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 1: does exist. I actually have finally hit this point where 1255 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, every single kind of thing that any person 1256 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: could want exist. This is a whole world of people 1257 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 1: and it's out there, and it's just like, go put 1258 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: yourself in these situations where you're around people with that 1259 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: are like minded, you know, or um, you're not like 1260 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: just going after this sense Like if I keep going 1261 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: after random guys in Nashville or whatever for the rest 1262 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 1: of my life, I may not find what I want. 1263 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: But if I keeping to music and go to Bridgetown 1264 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Arena and be like a concert, no, but I mean, 1265 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 1: I told you I went to this conference this weekend 1266 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and I was shocked thinking it was going to be 1267 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: all women there to work on their feminine energy, and 1268 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 1: there was a ton of single men who would come 1269 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 1: on their own, and I was just like, oh, these 1270 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 1: people do exist. You know, I'm not ready to date yet, 1271 01:11:54,840 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: but like they're out there and only two Okay, I'm 1272 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm kidding, Mom. That did not happen, um, 1273 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: But it was just for me. It was a really 1274 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: good practice of seeing that what I want is actually 1275 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: out there and I just have to start opening my 1276 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: eyes to that and accepting that and not being scared 1277 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 1: of what my true my true wants in a relationship are. 1278 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I think it's been really scared. Only you can make 1279 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 1: you happy, you know. It's yeah, it's only you can 1280 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: make you happy, and it's I think a relationship can enhance. Yeah, 1281 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 1: but I think that relationship is going to be easier 1282 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:45,679 Speaker 1: to find, an easier to um uh foster once you're happy, yeah, 1283 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: with yourself. You know, I do agree with that. You 1284 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: have to have the courage to say this is you know, 1285 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: make your list, this is what I want, This is 1286 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: what's going to make me happy. This is what I 1287 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: know is going to make me happy, and I don't 1288 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: care how people feel about it, like this is my boundary, 1289 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: like we're talking about earlier. Yeah, I'm starting to learn 1290 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 1: all of these things. A little late to the game 1291 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: totally actually, like Emil to the game. No, everyone's on 1292 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: a different journey, you know, it's fuck it. I'm right 1293 01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: on time, timeline. You are right on time. Okay. And 1294 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,640 Speaker 1: on that note, um when you guys, I hope we've 1295 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,360 Speaker 1: answered your questions about Oh you know, what else I 1296 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: want to say is we get I get more d 1297 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: m s about this stuff than people emailing. If you 1298 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 1: have a longer story, don't be afraid to email the 1299 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 1: edge at the Velvet. If I could get the email 1300 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: right there. Probably the Edge at Velvet's Edge dot com, UM, 1301 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: because I do check it, I promise, and I think 1302 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,560 Speaker 1: sometimes the long d m s can be hard for everybody, 1303 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: so send them to the email if you have a 1304 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 1: lot of questions or if you have a lot of 1305 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,479 Speaker 1: thoughts you want to share with us. UM, it's the 1306 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 1: edge at velvet Edge dot com. My Instagram is at 1307 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge. Chip Mine is at chip dorsh, which is 1308 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: h P d O R. Speaking of d ms, I 1309 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 1: get d m s referencing you all the time, and 1310 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: the P is capital. It's like c h I capital. 1311 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to notice that one day that you 1312 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: did that. All right, Well, when you guys are going 1313 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 1: into your weekend and it's freezing fucking gold here, so 1314 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 1: it is around the rest of the company, but I 1315 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,040 Speaker 1: am in no your falls. I don't want to hear 1316 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: what the cold is. It's cool to me. I'm from 1317 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,519 Speaker 1: the Louisiana. I can't survive in Canada. Uh. When you're 1318 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 1: going into your weekend, hope you're staying warm. I hope 1319 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 1: that you're living your best life, and I hope that 1320 01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 1: you always remember too casual you know what I forgot 1321 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: to say. I hope you're living on the edge. I 1322 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 1: thought I did it so well. I flowed better, the 1323 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 1: flow was there. Live on the edge and always remember 1324 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 1: to act casual. I'm never going to get it right. 1325 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 1: Let's all just accept it, Okay. That's the fun part 1326 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: of saying it. Alright, alright, bye bye