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Speaker 1: you come out ed sharing new guy, everybody loves you,

427
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: grow have tremendous success. Now you're a little older as

428
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: artist as I'm, you know, there's always the new year,

429
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: and you think about that totally. And I see it

430
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 1: more as I see every release I do as adding

431
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: to the catalog and adding to the setlist, and I e.

432
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: Every album, if I have one hit on the next album,

433
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,400
Speaker 1: that's in the set list, but there's twenty nine hits

434
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,240
Speaker 1: in the setlist, and you just add new ones every time.

435
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 1: I'm less focused on everything I do having to be

436
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: it's more. It's it's more about being, you know, just

437
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: making great records that people like and that will make

438
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: them want to go to the show, and then they

439
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 1: go to the show and they see all the other

440
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 1: songs that that that they like. In every single year

441
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: of my career, I've been doing doing this at a

442
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: high level for twelve years, but doing it sort of

443
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: like full on for fifteen and every year. There's a

444
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: new person every year, and at the beginning I sort

445
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: of felt like I was getting replaced, like there would

446
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 1: be a new singer songwriter that came out there would sell.

447
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: I remember when Sam Smith released in twenty fourteen, I

448
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: was putting out multiply and everyone was like Sam Smith

449
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: is the new blah blah blah blah blah. And I remember,

450
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean me and Sam were mates at that point,

451
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: so it never really there was no like rivalry. But

452
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: I remember feeling like, Okay, my time in the sun's

453
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 1: probably like at an end now. And then the next year,

454
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: like someone else comes out. It's James Bay, it's George Jesra,

455
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 1: it's Sean Menderes, it's capality. But there's there's like always

456
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: like another one that comes in, and then you sort

457
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 1: of realize it is over time. You're like, oh, like

458
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: like music, music isn't the Olympics. It's not like someone

459
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: gets golden someone doesn't. It's just everyone is doing what

460
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: they love for a living, and there's plenty of space

461
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: for everyone. You know. People can love my music. They

462
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: can love Taylor Swiss music, they can love Harry Styles's music,

463
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: they can love Coldplay's music, they can love Kendrick Lamar,

464
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: they can like love Drake and it doesn't like and

465
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes artists get it in their head

466
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: that they have to be the number one, that it

467
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,400
Speaker 1: has to be number one, number one. But if you're

468
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: top ten for the entirety of your career, you're fucking good.

469
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: Like have been top ten? Coldplay have never been. They've

470
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: probably been the biggest band in the world, but they've

471
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: never been like the number one, like over whoever. But

472
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: they've always been like three or seven or five, and

473
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: they've had twenty two years of that, And I feel

474
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: like that's that's a career. Like you can't you can't

475
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 1: be the best for ever or the biggest. You think

476
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: the pop world is more fickle. Totally, Yeah, totally, the

477
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: pop world is um very but I wouldn't say, like

478
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a pop star, but I feel like

479
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: my audience is kind of very spread across the board.

480
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm played on alternative radio, I'm played on pop

481
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: radio and played on Triple A or Hot AC or

482
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: like in in England you have Radio one and Radio two.

483
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm also played on Capital and then Capital Extra and

484
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: then so I'm kind of across the board. So I

485
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 1: have pop fans, but I also have fans that are

486
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: in you know, and other other other genres. But I find, yeah,

487
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: the pop world is very much here today, gone tomorrow.

488
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: And I'm thirty one now, like I'm old for a

489
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: pop star. Like but I when I first came out,

490
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: I was eighteen and I was the new, hot, fresh

491
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: young thing, and then you know, Chure Mendez comes out

492
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: and he's fifteen, and that's you're suddenly old and oh yeah,

493
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, pop world is is fickle. But that's why

494
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: it's just all it's all songs, So you just have

495
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: to write good songs. It's not it's not about anything

496
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: other than songs. You can have like campaigns that are

497
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: based around like TikTok moments or like viral campaigns were doing. Yeah,

498
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: but but if the song isn't good, yeah, but if

499
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: the song's great, it explodes. But it helps a lot

500
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: of um knew what artists too, or like independent artists

501
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: on TikTok l well and and there's no gatekeepers right anymore.

502
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: It's just like you can put a song out and

503
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: it was you know, like a song like Little Yachties

504
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: Poland it can just explode and it's the people that

505
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: make that happen. That people are like, right, this, this

506
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: song is great let's make this song. Do you like

507
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: poland Man? I live in the poler for the first

508
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: time this weekend and I looked at him, like, something

509
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: must be wrong my phone. He said, it's only a

510
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: minute and twenty seconds long. I love it so much.

511
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't miss with a minute twenty second song.

512
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, does this even register? Like if you played

513
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: like but it just gets in your head. I was.

514
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: I was in the studio and Saturday with them Benny Blanco,

515
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: and he was like, I have you heard it? And

516
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: I was like nah, And he played it to me

517
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: and the first time I heard it, I was like,

518
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think about this, and then

519
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: it was just in my head. That's what I thought too,

520
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Like the more you played, the more this that took.

521
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: Whatever he's saying, it's like some melody he keeps saying

522
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: over and I was like, what does the work? I

523
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: think it's coding. I gave it and apparently the company

524
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: is called like Wakford Wackford Farmer or something like that.

525
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: Okay that's what Urban Dictionary says. Anyway, Yeah, I was like,

526
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what does it work? Well? In England?

527
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: The work is a giant frying pan you met. Yeah,

528
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, he's making noodles sick? Yeah?

529
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: What is the cigarette? In England? Something you can't say

530
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: here that well yeah, ok, yeah we do so I know.

531
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: But oh no, God, like I would say I say

532
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: in England because it is that's what the slang is.

533
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: I would just never say over here. But the C

534
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: word in England is a term of endearment, whereas over

535
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: here it is like you're kind of punched up if

536
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: you're saying it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's

537
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: a term of endearment. Yeah, in England. I don't understand why.

538
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: Like I think of the word bitch or snake or

539
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: rat or like cow or pig, those are way more

540
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: offensive than calling someone's tow pig. If someone called a

541
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: member of your family a pig or a cow versus something,

542
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: if the female anatomy can't yeh, rat, you know you're

543
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: a rat, You're a snake, so much more For anyway,

544
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: this is this is an argument I will never win

545
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: because people offended by what they're offended by. But I

546
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: just don't in in England, in my generation, is used

547
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: as a term of endement and it should be right

548
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: because I always say, why would you call somebody something

549
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: that you don't like? Over here? If you call somebody pussy,

550
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be a bad thing. But it's like,

551
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: if you love pussy, that's not an insult. If I'm

552
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: calling you that, I feel like, is that an insult? Yeah, totally.

553
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: But some people though you yeah, I mean I'm I'm not.

554
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: I think you're more insulted because of what dick means,

555
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: Like you're saying I'm a bad person. Think I think

556
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: if yeah, it's like a prick, if you're like you're

557
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: a prick, Like it's that doesn't sound so bad. Prick

558
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: is like whatever, Man, it's just all it's all it's

559
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: it's all context in it, and it's all how how

560
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: you say it. Because the cea work can be super offensive.

561
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: I think it's super offensive. If you use the tea,

562
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: it's it's offensive. Un Yeah, well in England no one

563
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: pronounces their teas. Yeah, you know, you would call someone

564
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: a chatty patty rather than a chatty patty chat page.

565
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: You know what. Another thing that here was was different

566
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: for us was the Queen Queen Elizabeth's funeral, And I

567
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: know there was a lat Why was it different though,

568
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it was huge in England. Well I'm

569
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: talking about here in the United States, Like we're like,

570
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was in the news for so long

571
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: and you guys really care about the monarchy. Though, why

572
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: do what I'll be wondering, why do people here? Well,

573
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's history like it like I feel

574
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: like it's historical, um cultural, and like someone put it

575
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: to me, they were like, I would prefer to have

576
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: a Queen Elizabeth than a president trust basically as well

577
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: as in like because every four or eight years you

578
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: have someone new come in and we do have prime ministers,

579
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: but are also our politics is absolutely fucked at the moment,

580
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: but having there's something about having a head of state

581
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: that's like comforting for people. I think having like the

582
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: Queen was there for you know, she ruled for seventy

583
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: years and I don't know, she kind of felt like

584
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: everyone's basically the monarchy. Lots of people disagree with it

585
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: and lots of people love it, and it basically I

586
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: don't know, it brings tourism to our country. People like it. People, Yeah,

587
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you didn't have no power I didn't realize. No,

588
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: no world. I mean she does, like, but she doesn't.

589
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: Like if she used her power, the monarchy ends. Because

590
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: the whole point is she can if she really wants to,

591
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: but she shouldn't. It's more of a figurehead. Yeah, because

592
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: if if she starts doing it. The reason it's like

593
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: that is like back in like the seventeen hundreds or whatever,

594
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: you just have like crazy kings that would be like,

595
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: fuck this guy, I'm going to kill him. Yeah, you know,

596
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: like it just turns into a dictatorship. But it's more

597
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: about having I don't really know how to explain it,

598
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: but it's about having um togetherness as a country. Like

599
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: when COVID happened and she did a speech, the whole

600
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: country tuned into the speech because it felt comforting to

601
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: have her speech. I don't know, I don't know how.

602
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: It sounds really weird explaining it too, because we don't

603
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: have that no here. Well, I don't. Yeah, were you

604
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: comforted by any Trump speeches COVID, Yeah, exactly at the time,

605
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: the governor's Chris Como, Governor Karma, and then I think, like, oh,

606
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: the Megan Marco controversy and everything that happened around that

607
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: we here paid attention because there was Megan Marco, she's

608
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: from here, and then there was a lat you know,

609
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: surrounding net. Yeah, and I feel like I just I

610
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: feel like they made a choice to not be part

611
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: of it, and they want to live their life the

612
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: way that they want to live, and I don't that's

613
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: their choice. I feel like it's weird people being like,

614
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: if Harry wants to step away from it, he should

615
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: be able to think. I think it was the reasons

616
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: why people were like, what's going on, you know, behind

617
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: the scenes, because there is like, yeah, while she will

618
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: find that on the Crown, Sure we'll find that. You know,

619
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: they're doing seasons of the Crown. I saw a picture

620
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: of you and the Queen. You talked about it on

621
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: a Colbert Colbert Yeah, yeah, he says, you fired it.

622
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: That's why she was smiling. Fired. I was standing next

623
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: to a comedian that made a joke. Okay, but no.

624
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: The mad thing about the Queen's Jubilee is I started

625
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: playing guitar watching that. I was eleven years old and

626
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I watched that on TV and Eric Clapton came on

627
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: and played later, and I was like, that's what I

628
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: want to do and then ten years exactly ten years later,

629
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I was on the same Jubilee playing my song to

630
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: you know audience to England, and then ten years later

631
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: again which was I think June June this year, ended

632
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: up doing it again. So it's it's mad like there's

633
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: mad stuff around my connection with the Jubilee and the

634
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Queen and it means a lad to you. Totally, yeah, totally.

635
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: And my granddad was I come from quite a like

636
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain it, but in Northern

637
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Ireland and Southern Ireland, the Queen is a very polarizing figure.

638
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: And my grandfather was from Northern Ireland and my grandmother

639
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: was from Southern Ireland and they married. My grandfather was

640
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: a Royalist and had all these like painted plates of

641
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: the Queen and my grandmother was like not super keen

642
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: on the Queen. And it's so for me. I'm when

643
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I got like given my mbe by the palace, like

644
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: that means a lot to me because of the memory

645
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: of my grandfather and what it would have meant to him.

646
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: But it also acts like being half Irish. I don't

647
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: really know how to right. There's like I feel very

648
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: conflicted and that one and all the things that when

649
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: you met the Queen, your parents were like, oh, edge

650
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: really doing it. He's somebody. They were there, they were

651
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: brought I brought him down. Yeah. I think the times,

652
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: the times that have made my dad's be like, oh,

653
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: he's really doing it was actually at the Jubilee as well.

654
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I introduced my dad to Paul McCartney and I think

655
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: that was when he was like, Sir Paul McCartney, Yeah,

656
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: and what's mad is Paul mc cartney had seen me

657
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: on I don't really know how to what show it

658
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: would be like that. It would be like, um, it's

659
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: a strike called Hollyoaks. I guess it would be like

660
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: what's that show? I don't want to wait from my

661
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: love to be over, but you had over here, so

662
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's like a really really it's like an

663
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: English version, the version of that, but like no one

664
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: like my generation would watch it. But I remember the

665
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: first time I met Paul McCartney him being like, man,

666
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I saw you on Hollyoaks because I played a song

667
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: on Hollyoaks and I was like, when do you watch Hollyoaks?

668
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, he watches Hollyoaks. Wow, now talk to me

669
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: about math, man, Why is math so important to you? Like,

670
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: why do you put the math symbols name on math

671
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: to all your arm Well, it was basically I made

672
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: five EPs before I was signed. I basically I had.

673
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: I had all these songs and no record label wanted

674
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: to sign me, and I was waiting to be signs

675
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: to release these songs. And eventually, when you've done the

676
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: rounds too many times and everyone's like no, I was like, well,

677
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I guess I should probably just release them myself. So

678
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I went on this website called tune Call that Russ

679
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: like goes on about like the tune calls great. So

680
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: I went on tune Car and I just started releasing

681
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: these EPs, and by the fifth EP, I had a

682
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: plan of five. I was going to do an acoustic one,

683
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: a pop one, a live one, a collaborations one, and

684
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: like one with the band. And I was like, by

685
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: the end of that, I'll have generated a fan base

686
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: and I'll be able to tour. So I release these

687
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: EPs over the course of a year, and then at

688
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: the end of it the record labels were then interested.

689
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: I signed, and then I had some songs left over,

690
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, what should I call it?

691
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: And I was thinking plus because it's the addition on

692
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: so all the other stuff that I did. And then

693
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: I was like, if I do plus, then the next

694
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: album can be multiplied because I'm going to take it

695
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: worldwide and make it bigger. And then the next album

696
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: was originally Divide, was a double album, so it was

697
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: like half R and B half acoustic, and then I

698
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: basically just jumbled them up and that's what Divided. And

699
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: then there's Equals, which was meant to be the final

700
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: of the five, which was meant to be the end

701
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: of the equation of all the genres in one. And

702
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: then there's the one that I'm bringing out in next year.

703
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: Basically was that one car I've actually never confirmed the

704
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: name of it, but it's called Subtract, and that's going

705
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: to be I think we figured it out. No, well,

706
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: it's called subtract. Yeah. But then but then after that,

707
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: technically the five mathematicals, I've got like other ideas for

708
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: for for stuff, but that was I mean, that's been

709
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: twelve years of my career of of doing that. But

710
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: it's also just on a just on a marketing point

711
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: of view, I wanted to have each album, like I

712
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: loved whenever you Coldplay release an album, you like know

713
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: that they release an album, even if you see a

714
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: poster of just like the artwork, you're like, oh, Coldplay releasing.

715
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: And I wanted to just do it simply colors, like

716
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: block colors. So the first album is orange and it

717
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: has a white plus symbol. And if you if you

718
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: saw orange and a white plus symbol, you'll be like, Okay,

719
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: that's it's album. The next one is bright green with

720
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: a black multiply, and then it was bright blue with

721
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: a if I'd sign, and it was bright red with

722
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: an equal sign. And I love the idea of like

723
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: never having my name and name or face on anything,

724
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: and it's just you see a billboard of whatever, a

725
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: red equal sign, you go, oh, it's releasing an album

726
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: rather than I never really liked the way I looked,

727
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: so I didn't really want to be in music. If

728
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: you look at all my first music videos, I'm not

729
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: in any of them. And I didn't want to be

730
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: on album covers, you know, sort of like the jacket.

731
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: I like how you look now. I mean, I'd exercise

732
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot, so yeah, I'm prone to a bit. I

733
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: like food and I like alcohols. I'm prone to being fat,

734
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: so I exercise a lot now to balance that out

735
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: because I still love eating. I think it's good. Is

736
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: if you get finer as you get older. Yeah, I

737
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: definitely feel that. That's they I feel like when I

738
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: got my eyes laser. That was when people were like, oh,

739
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: you don't look like shit? What did the eyes laser?

740
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: Du didn't make it? Well, I just stopped wearing glasses.

741
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: I wore glasses because I didn't like the way I looked,

742
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: so I'd wear these big glasses and I felt like

743
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: it was like the protection. Yeah, yeah, I felt like that.

744
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Or i'd wear like a hat, glasses and stuff. So

745
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: I'm a bit more comfortable since working out like I

746
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: do a lot of running a lot of weights and

747
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: eating kind of well, it's the wine that gets me though.

748
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: It's the wine that wine, because I'll have like a

749
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: bottle of wine a day and that adds up. So no,

750
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: I know you, no, No, I've got I've got stopped

751
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: drinking spirits. Spirits. Spirits were my like trigger to all

752
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: the other stuff. Yeah, now about the math Manictoire, You're

753
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: going to only be doing songs from those albums, like

754
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: the math albums kind of yeah, kind of, so it's

755
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: sort of like a great I hate saying greatt sits

756
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: because it makes me sound like a like I'm a

757
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: heritage artist. But it's the great it's the greatest hits

758
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: of those what will be fun. The next album will

759
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: come out before I'm in I'm in the States, so

760
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: it'll be essentially the great sits. But there's like part

761
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: of the show where it's like the medley of the collaborations,

762
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll do Fireboy dml Peru and I'll

763
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: do Beautiful People Kallead, and I'll do the Justin Bieber

764
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: song and you know, I've got It's it's a it's

765
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: a wide variety. I when I look at live show,

766
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm sort of like if I were to go and

767
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: watch cold Play and they didn't play Yellow, I feel

768
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: short changed. I feel short That's why it's. Yeah, sometimes

769
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: you want artists to go and do like medley's of

770
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: you see, Like I went to go and see Drake

771
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: in like twenty thirteen and there was like a fifteen

772
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: minute medley of him just doing yeah all his features. Yeah,

773
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: fucking great. You're just like because you get that excitement

774
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: of the song, and then it's the next one, the

775
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: next one, the next one. So I think that that's

776
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: important to do of just giving the audience everything that

777
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: they want. Yeah, some people get sick of performing certain

778
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: songs because they were so big to say that before then,

779
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: but then don't play. But then the audience gets still disappointed.

780
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: If yeah, I mean I but the thing is like,

781
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: there's definitely songs that I play that I'm like, this

782
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: isn't my favorite song anymore, but when you see the

783
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: reaction of it, You're you're playing You're you're playing it

784
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: for someone that has paid money to see you play

785
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: that song. So play that song? Would you perform a

786
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Rabbit Craft winning? Do you know what was mad about

787
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: that is everyone always wants me to play Perfect at

788
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: their wedding and I've never done it because I usually

789
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: play on weekends or my family and I don't want

790
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: to do anything on the weekend. I've never done Perfect

791
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: at a wedding. And that the wet the point attended

792
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: the Perfect Wedding when I was playing it at Robert

793
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Crafts because he asked me just to play perfect. So

794
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: when I was playing it, I was like, oh, this

795
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: is the first time I've played it. What yeah, mad, Mad,

796
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: It's fun. It was a fun, fun wedding though. Elton

797
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: John was my opening act. He played just before me,

798
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: and then like Meat came on stage and it was good.

799
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I met Like, No, that was like I'm doing a

800
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: show for him. So we're doing like Gillette Stadium and

801
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So that was more he was. He

802
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: was my first stadium in the States. Oh you get

803
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: seat at the table and like a plate and everything. No,

804
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: but they did get me some food. I was basically

805
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: I was basically late that like, I'm not he had

806
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: his closest like mates there. I'm not. I'm yeah, I'm not.

807
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm not that we but we're close. He was my

808
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: first ever stadium in the States. But I'm very much

809
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: like in terms of like private gigs, I don't really

810
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: do them that much and it has to be like

811
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm playing the only the one next weekend. But that's

812
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: because we're not doing Austin on the tour and I

813
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure we did or was. The last

814
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: private I did was in Hawaii and it was because

815
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Hawaii. But I'm I just

816
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: like I like playing my own shows. To be honest,

817
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I like, just yeah, so when Elton John opens up

818
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: for you, right, you ever looking to see to yourself?

819
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: I really got to step up my rider and everything

820
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: else because I know Elton gets everything. He gets a

821
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: good he gets a good rider. What was mad, though,

822
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: is I was chatting to meet while Elton was on stage,

823
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: and we were like here and Elton's there playing to

824
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: like a hundred people. And then I stopped the conversation.

825
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: I was like, me, isn't it mad that we're like

826
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: talking over paying an intimate like this is like, do

827
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: you ever think that you'd ever be in a position

828
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: where like this is normal? Because it just became became normal.

829
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, my rider sounds to me like you

830
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: were trying to tell me shut the fuck up. I'm

831
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: trying to listen to Elton. You were trying to get

832
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: up the conversation. I loved me, I really really loved it.

833
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: Would if Elton would have been there, guys. He No.

834
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: My my rider is usually just a nice bottle of wine.

835
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: Usually just like that's that's kind of all I would

836
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: want to have at a gig. So I usually just

837
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: say this bottle of wine because I feel like if

838
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: you ask for one thing, they're going to get it. Yeah,

839
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: my rider used to be um. Do you know, actually,

840
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: do you know the rumor about Madonna getting only blue

841
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: M and M's people, So, do you know why people

842
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: do that? So tour managers do that because they have

843
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: a very extensive rider of like very very specific things.

844
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: If it has to be this kind of tea and

845
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: it has to be this kind of water and blah

846
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: blah blah, and then they say all blue M and M's.

847
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Because if it's all blue M and M's, they walk

848
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: into the dressing room, they see all blue Eminem's and

849
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: they go, right, You've got everything we need in this rider,

850
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and I don't need to double check it, like I

851
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: just I just thought it was a diva thing. But

852
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: it's it's basically they walk in and they know that

853
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: everything has been followed to the tea basically. Wow, fascinating it.

854
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: I saw people congratulate. When I congratulating, you do a

855
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: bigging you up because you kept the ticket price is reasonable? Yeah?

856
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Are you doing it because you're aware of how the

857
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: economy isn't it? I just I used to go to

858
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: gigs as a kid, and the tickets that I bought,

859
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: I could always afford and I could go with my friends,

860
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want to, like without sounding crass, like

861
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: what what is the extra money going to do for

862
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: my life? Like I would rather play sold out gigs

863
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: everywhere in the world than have an extra x amount

864
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: of what what what whatever? And like I don't know.

865
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I I know how much my show costs, and I

866
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: know how much I kind of want to walk away with.

867
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: And after that, I'm sort of fine with it. And

868
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: Echant is amazing too, totally yeah, And you know, and

869
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: people come into the gigs like this isn't going to

870
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: be the last time at all. You want to repeat business.

871
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: You want people being like, do you know what, I

872
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: went to that show with all of my mates and

873
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: we had a great time, and we'll go next time.

874
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: And people, this is what I've done for my entire career,

875
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: is just like make tickets reasonable and affordable and they

876
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: will come. And last tour was the biggest selling tour

877
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: in the world and the highest grossing as well, so

878
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: we still made good money and everyone came to the gig.

879
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: So I'm just you know, I don't believe in the

880
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: platinum seats in the VIP areas and the soled meeting greets,

881
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: like we do partnerships with radio stations for meeting greets,

882
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: and it's always free and it's always competitions, so fans

883
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: actually enter the competitions, they excited to go. They don't

884
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: feel like they're parting with money to meet you and

885
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: feel cheated out of it. And there's just there's just

886
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: ways that I like to do it and it's always worked,

887
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to change it. Have you seen

888
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: the pictures from Chris Browns and meeting greets, No, I haven't. Okay,

889
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: take a look at that or you get into it.

890
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: I just you know, there's like different strokes for different folks,

891
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: you know. But my rule has always been this and

892
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: it's worked incredibly well. So I'm not gonna I'm not

893
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: going to start doing something that I don't believe in

894
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: now and I feel like it's it's I hate going.

895
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: We would always keep the front row of arenas and

896
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: then go to the nosebleed seats and get the back

897
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: row and put them in the front row, because then

898
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: you've got the best fans who are having the best

899
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: night right in front of you. Whereas opposed to I've

900
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: played a couple of like casinos where they control the

901
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: front row and half of it's empty and the other

902
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: half are like high rollers that don't really want to

903
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: be there, and you're just playing to people that are

904
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: just rich and don't give a fuck, and that you

905
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: much rather play to your fans. He says, I'm just

906
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: now about doing that. Wanted to do things that you

907
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: don't believe in. How hard is it not to be

908
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: a cloud chasing in twenty twenty two, Because I know

909
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: people probably come to you and be like, you know

910
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: ed this person's doing this, and this person's doing that,

911
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: maybe you should try to do this type of record,

912
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: or maybe you should take a picture doing this totally well,

913
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: I mean TikTok is that like I've I never really

914
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: understood TikTok, but TikTok controls songs now really so I

915
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: basically there's a team in the UK that come to

916
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: me and they go, well, these are these are the

917
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: these are the trends, and I'll go, well, this is

918
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: quite funny and this is quite funny, and I'll just

919
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: choose the things that I want to do. So I

920
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: guess that is kind of chasing clout. But it's essentially

921
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: that's how you advertise your music now, and if you

922
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: don't do that, it's a lot more it's a lot

923
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: more difficult to like advertise something, and I don't want

924
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: to make a song for it to be completely ignored.

925
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: So that line between marketing and cloud chasing totally, Yeah, totally.

926
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: And in terms of like genres, like, I'm I love

927
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: spanning all genres. I like trying different things. I like

928
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: making like anything. I've sung in Italian, I've sung in French,

929
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: I've sung in Japanese. I'm I'm up for trying anything.

930
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: But I think you have to walk into something with

931
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: a somewhat knowledge of it and respect of it, rather

932
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: than just being like, oh that's the hot thing. I'm

933
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to do that. So when I first

934
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: made Afroby, I moved to Ghana and lived there for

935
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: a month and a lot of music that wasn't just

936
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: my music. I made music that went on other people's

937
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: projects and stuff, and um, yeah, like, how will that

938
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: experience living so good? Did you go to the door

939
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: and r return and all that stuff? We save castles? No,

940
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: we went to basically this guy that I went with,

941
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: Fuse odg. He had a house there and he had

942
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: a studio in his house, and I mean we went

943
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: out and about, but like not like huge. We would

944
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: like go for runs and stuff like that. But what

945
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: the thing I loved about it is you'd be in

946
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: the studio all day making these songs and then a

947
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: phone call be made, two hundred people turn up to

948
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: the house, and then you'd have a party to the songs.

949
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: So you'd like make these songs knowing that you were

950
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: going to party to them that night, and it was

951
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: just it's such a different vibe. And also for me,

952
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, like not a secretive person with my music,

953
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: but I don't want it like leaking years before it

954
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: comes out and phones are out and everyone's filming. It's

955
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: just the culture there is just like sharing and just

956
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: it's great. They're really really really good. Fun was crazy.

957
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: So what Dad said, do you have a hard time

958
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: just selling music nowadays? And what I mean by that

959
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: is people want your life totally. They want to know

960
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: about the wife and the kids, Like, well, no, I

961
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: just want to give them the music. It's it's it's

962
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: it's an odd line, isn't it, Because I think, well,

963
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I think kids are always off off the table, like

964
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: there's no there's no point with with with with with that.

965
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's interesting with my life with Cherry because the

966
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: songs are about it, so there's obviously interest in it.

967
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: And you know, we're shooting a documentary at the moment

968
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: around my life, and there was a big conversation about

969
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: what do we include, And I think that as long

970
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 1: as it's honest and it links in with a theme

971
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: of something that's in a song, like, there's no point

972
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: putting something in if it's just detrimental to your life,

973
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, it's definitely there's a fine line,

974
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: isn't it, Because we're all public figures. Everyone's interested in

975
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: what you talk about your personal life on the radio.

976
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: You talk about your personal life on the radio, and

977
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: therefore you've somewhat opened the door. But then there's also

978
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: this boundary preaching privacy of being like, oh, actually i'm

979
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: a I'm a I'm a human being that sometimes people forget.

980
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a very fine line. But that's why

981
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: I like, you've been to my house in Suffolk, Like,

982
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: that's why I live where I live and I don't

983
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles, and I don't. My life as

984
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: a celebrity is switched on when it needs to be

985
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: switched on. So I come to New York and I'm

986
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: working this week, so I'm doing the TVs and I'm

987
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: doing the radios, and I'm a celebrity for the week.

988
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: But when I go home, I'm I'm a friend, I'm

989
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: a dad, I'm a husband, I'm a son, and that's

990
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: my Like, you can't bring celebrity baggage into a pub

991
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: in the Suffolk, you just have to be yourself. Well,

992
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: would have pub in Yard? Well, I mean that's your house. Yeah,

993
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean that is you know. Actually, since you came

994
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: and then basically the pandemic happened, that pub hasn't really

995
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: been properly used as a Yeah, it's weird, like the

996
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: the the kind of way of hanging out. I don't

997
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's changed here, but the way

998
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: of hanging out in England is very different. It's not

999
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: like twenty people go to I'll meet up with like

1000
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: a mate and go to a pub. But it used

1001
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: to just be a bit more free. I feel. I

1002
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: would think that that would be the place everybody would

1003
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: have came to hang out during a pandemic, little bubble rate.

1004
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how it was here,

1005
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: but like it was very much. People were trying to

1006
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: catch you out, so like being irresponsible. Yeah, so like

1007
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: a neighbor of someone might tell the press of you know,

1008
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: someone coming around. You have kids in a family too,

1009
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: and they get to be more responsible when you have that. Well,

1010
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: we actually didn't have We didn't have a kid for

1011
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: the first half. Cherry was pregnant for the first half,

1012
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: but that's how we kept it so quiet. No one

1013
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: knew she was pregnant. Yeah, but then the second one

1014
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: was mad because Cherry was pregnant whilst I was promoting

1015
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Equals and we went to like award shows with her

1016
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: massive bump and no one picked up on it. And

1017
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: then the week we gave birth, everyone found out how

1018
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: to imperlate to be like because you know what I mean,

1019
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: it was it was like a proper bump. It was

1020
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: a proper bump. But yeah, are you really are you

1021
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: doing the toy just to get out of the house,

1022
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: to be honest, Well, no, they come with me, they come.

1023
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: So we've I've been on tour for the entire year.

1024
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: I started touring in April and we have just been

1025
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: renting houses. So we lived in like Dublin for a week,

1026
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: we lived in Limerick for a week, we lived in

1027
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: frank for for a week. And yeah, it's it's fun.

1028
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: Lots of zoos into lots of zoos with with with

1029
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: with the kids, and it's great, you know, it's great

1030
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: for my daughters. My daughters comes to the shows and

1031
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: watches the gigs. She sort of assumes that everyone else's

1032
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: dad sings as well, though, where's your dad sing? Yeah? Well,

1033
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: and and also she assumes that every single song ever

1034
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: is mine, so she'll hear something and she'd be honest,

1035
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: daddy singing. It's like no, no, that's like the Beatles

1036
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know what about this Pokemon

1037
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: the celester your song? Yeah, your kids care about that.

1038
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: She hasn't really got to Pokemon stage yet, but I

1039
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: care about that, Like I'm I love Pokemon and you're

1040
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: a pokemonger, Yeah, totally. I mean Pokemon was my escape

1041
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: as a as a kid. I didn't really have a

1042
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: fun time at primary school when I was like six

1043
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: seven eight, and that's when Pokemon came out and it

1044
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: was my escape into a world I think that's why

1045
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I love Harry Potter so much. You escape into a

1046
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: world where you can sort of exist in your mind.

1047
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: And I would play Pokemon as that escape, and then

1048
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: you get older and then it's comforting to go back

1049
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: and play the game. And then suddenly I'm in Japan

1050
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: and I meet the head of Pokemon and he's like,

1051
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: you should do a song for us, and I'm like,

1052
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: I don't and what that sounds like? Like? What does

1053
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: a song for Pokemon sounds like? It sounds sounds like

1054
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: and then we ended up doing it. My favorite thing

1055
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: about the music video was because it's all green screen

1056
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: and they drawing the pokemons. I'm sitting there at a

1057
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: breakfast that they set up and they're putting food on

1058
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: the table and it's basically there was about twenty people

1059
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: from the Japanese Pokemon company, like branch. They're making sure

1060
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: it's all done, and they've got a Japanese director and

1061
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: they've got an English trans translator, and I'm they're sort

1062
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: of eating the food and then you just see this

1063
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of huddle and they're all talking like really really seriously,

1064
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: and I say to translator and I was like, what's

1065
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: what's going on. He's like, they're not sure whether the

1066
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: Pikachu eats eggs or not. And I was like okay,

1067
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: and they're like, they said, they've got to do a

1068
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: confidence call to Japan right now. So they all go

1069
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: in and they put this zoom on and you see

1070
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: them all like really seriously like looking and like nodding,

1071
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, oh fuck, this is like

1072
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: proper series. And then they come back in and everything

1073
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: resumes and we go back to and I say they

1074
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: translator and I was like, so, just Pikachu we eat

1075
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: eggs and translates like he doesn't. It was like super

1076
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: How the hell would they know it well? Because it's like,

1077
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: because it's a world that they've created, they have to

1078
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: take it so seriously. So I did a I did

1079
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: a TikTok for them where I got something wrong and

1080
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: I had to take it take it down. But it

1081
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: is really super serious. You know. It's the biggest selling

1082
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: franchise ever Pokemon ever, Wow, ever over like Harry Potter,

1083
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: over Star Wars, over, like any Din film. Yeah, it's

1084
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventeen billion generated or something like that.

1085
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: It's complete. Remember when they hit their game, everybody was

1086
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: working around. Oh yeah, Pokemon Go. I never got into that.

1087
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: That was that was a step too far for me

1088
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: to collection worth anything. A Pokemon plus toy collection. I

1089
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: don't know if they're worth anything. I don't know. I

1090
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I just get like, whenever I go to Japan,

1091
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: they send me one. So I'm like, Japan. Japan used

1092
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: to be the one place that I could go and

1093
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: blend in because like, no one liked my music there.

1094
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Basically I was tour there and played to no one.

1095
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: So when I went traveling, I took my wife there

1096
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: and we traveled around Japan. No one said anything. And

1097
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: then Shape of You came out and it just ended

1098
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: all of that so much so that they won't even

1099
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: let me promote new music there. I'll go and I'll

1100
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: be like, can I play Bad Habits? And They're like, no,

1101
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: you need to play Shape. It's like number one for

1102
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: like three years there. It's insane. And you said you

1103
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: didn't get in the Pokemon Go. Why uh, I just

1104
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: didn't like it as a game. I don't know. It's

1105
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: not it's not I want to be in the Pokemon world.

1106
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to exist in this world catching Pokemon

1107
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: this world sucks at times. I want to be in canto.

1108
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: Plus you don't have a phone, so no, but you

1109
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: could play it on an iPad. But can you imagine

1110
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: seeing a ginger kid with glasses walking around with an

1111
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: iPad trying to catch Pokemon. It looks pretty on brand

1112
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: and me, I got so, can we expect a new album?

1113
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: Track is coming? Yeah, some tracks is coming. There's a

1114
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: new album, and then there's new music. I'm basically like,

1115
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the most creative part of my life.

1116
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I phil because of the pressure of every album having

1117
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: to be this like gogantuan pop machine is off. I

1118
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: feel like that I've had I've had five of them now,

1119
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like now is the time to actually

1120
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: explore doing stuff and taking risks and just be like,

1121
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: well it because I'm going to be on a stadium

1122
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: tour for five years. So even if I put out

1123
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: an album and it bombs, I'm still playing to ninety

1124
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: two thousand people that night. You know, there's no I

1125
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: don't feel the pressure of it. You're going tour for

1126
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: the next five years and well including this year. Yeah

1127
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: we finished in twenty twenty six. Wow, that's amazing. So

1128
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: a new album comes out the beginning of the year,

1129
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: then a North American tour starts in March. No I've

1130
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: Got I've Got Australia in January and February, okay, and

1131
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: then I've America starts in April, and then after them

1132
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: we're going to hit other countries and then we go

1133
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: back to No. I think we do Asia in twenty

1134
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: four and then we go back to Europe and then

1135
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: we do all the all the fun countries, so the

1136
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: ones that two thousand and nine was my fun country

1137
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: tour where it's like, fuck it, let's play and I

1138
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: and you go and play in icelands like one in

1139
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: five people, and you play in Romania, and you play

1140
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: in like I really want to play Egypt, Like there's

1141
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: a there's a venue in front of the Pyramids that

1142
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: I really really really want to play. So I hope

1143
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: that that works out. But that's the year of doing that.

1144
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: My manager will be listening to this being like, why

1145
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: are you telling all all the plans? But but this

1146
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: is the only tour we're doing in America. We're not

1147
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: coming back to America. This is it. Well, Kale's going

1148
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: to do some dates Rusk Go and do some dates.

1149
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: We've got cat Burns, got Maizie, We've got Dylan. I

1150
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: think Griff's doing some and yeah, it's it's going to

1151
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: be good. The college things like really cool because he's

1152
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: got about as many I think he's got ten ten

1153
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: billion streaming songs and I've got ten billion streaming songs.

1154
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: So you get come to a show and you're going

1155
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: to see twenty billion streamers in the space of like

1156
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: three hours. I find quite quite cool and it'd be

1157
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: great with me and Russ still haven't played that, the

1158
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: tune that we've done together, so I'm really excited to

1159
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: play that. Your kids are going to be so well rounded, man,

1160
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: it's so well traveled. La has been to twenty five

1161
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: countries already. It's wild. Yeah, it's well, but I think

1162
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: it's important to see well. I grew up in the countryside,

1163
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: so I when I first moved to London at eight seventeen,

1164
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: I remember being like, oh my god, like the world

1165
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: is not what I thought it was. And I think

1166
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: it's important for like when we when we tare South America,

1167
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: I want Lyra to see everything, you know, not just

1168
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: like a really lovely hotel or whatever. I want to.

1169
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: I want her to travel around see like go to

1170
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: the rainforest and see shit. You know, all right? It

1171
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: was my guy and sharing man and thank you for coming, brother, Yeah,

1172
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: thank you for always having bad to see. I don't

1173
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: have to but it's not. I love it. I love it.

1174
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: It's always it's it's always the best interview the day

1175
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: for me. I love it. Ask you who you fucking

1176
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: with musically right now? The Papua otherwise? Do you know what?

1177
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: There's a there's a song in the UK. Um it's

1178
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: it's Sonna and Quams is it Quams? Yeah? Um called

1179
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah that I'm like got on repeat. What else?

1180
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of UK music. I mean

1181
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: I do listen to a lot of American music, but

1182
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: UK music is so my I'm just around it the

1183
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: whole time. Storms. He's released a new song called Hide

1184
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: and Seek that's like the most fucking beautiful song of

1185
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: you should you should listen? Yeah, it's so good. Um yeah,

1186
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's a mate, there's a bunch. There's a bunch.

1187
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned one because last time I was I was here.

1188
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Who's a Swedish rapper. But he's just about to release

1189
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: a new record that's really really good as well. But

1190
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: like I'm just as I tore around, I'm listening to stuff.

1191
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: What else I bought something the other day? Oh do

1192
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: you do you listen to d Block Europe? Do you

1193
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: block Europe? So basically d Block Europe is is that

1194
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: that's Jada Kiss right, So they set up um uh

1195
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: Deblock Europe maybe like ten fifteen years ago, but now

1196
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: that they're an act in their own right, they're like

1197
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: arena level selling act. But I just did a feature

1198
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: on their records that, um that is great, so go

1199
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: and go and check that out as well. Okay, it's

1200
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: my man, it's sharing, it's the Breakfast Club. Do you

1201
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: block you? Yeah? Man, They're they're like I remember dip

1202
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: set head there, um Europe. Yeah, I'm too remember that said, yeah,

1203
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah they fucking did. I knew those guys

1204
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I don't know what happened with that well,

1205
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: Deep Deeper Europe. They sold like three three zero two s.

1206
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: They're like doing full arena scores across my day. They

1207
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: don't never talk about it. Um, you should definitely check

1208
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: them out though. Man. They're like they're the same level

1209
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: as like Dave and Storms. And in terms of like

1210
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: people check them up. They sold out the equivalent of

1211
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: the Garden. They're like the big do you black Europe?

1212
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: Check them money when you leave? So you did play.

1213
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do tomorrow? I said, what

1214
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: the whole hype was. Yeah, I got I'm late. I'm here,

1215
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm basically here, and I got on like super lates

1216
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: like four years ago, Like I needed that. Yeah, I

1217
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: h me you my picture? Are you gonna pict just

1218
00:57:33,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: looking good? I love ya first and work your yeah

1219
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: yeah yeah right out in your mind you today? So yeah,

1220
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: crushing right now? I think again and whatever to go

1221
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: out show where you're like, are you put me the like?

1222
00:59:40,680 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: I guess yes. M h. These questions are now, these

1223
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: questions now they're just funny. Hey you're bisexual? Can we

1224
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: get the track listing to from there? Oh? It is

1225
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: on here? Yeah? Um yeah. What's going on with the

1226
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: Daily Paper interview? Okay, when is it playing? M