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Speaker 1: Order. It's a fresh show. It's Kiki's court, all right,

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Speaker 1: the honorable kikilik Kiki.

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Speaker 2: But Judge Kiki, yes, I take it away, all right, now,

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Speaker 2: let's get into the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: The gabble has been hit.

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Speaker 2: It says, hey, Ki Ki, am I wrong for telling

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Speaker 2: my best friend we don't want her around because of

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Speaker 2: her baby. My name is Elena, and one of my

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Speaker 2: best friends became a mom eleven months ago, and obviously

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Speaker 2: our friend group has been so happy for her. However,

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Speaker 2: we all secretly feel like she's allowed motherhood to completely

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Speaker 2: take over her entire personality. She brings the baby everywhere

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Speaker 2: we go, and all the baby does is cry.

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Speaker 3: It's so exhausting.

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Speaker 2: She's also breastfeeding, so when we're out, she doesn't drink

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Speaker 2: and then complains if we drink without her. So we

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Speaker 2: have our annual spring break girls trip coming up, but

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Speaker 2: my friends and I have decided that we don't want

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Speaker 2: her to come. We've already booked our trip and started

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Speaker 2: a separate group chat, but she just texts us all

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Speaker 2: to x about the plans. I responded and told her

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Speaker 2: the truth about us not wanting her to tag along

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Speaker 2: because of the baby. We all want a kid free vibe.

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Speaker 2: She just doesn't fit the vibe anymore. So she got

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Speaker 2: really upset and removed herself from the group chat and

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Speaker 2: blocked me.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong for being honest? And am I wrong

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Speaker 3: for how I feel?

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Speaker 1: So this woman the friend group wants to have like

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Speaker 1: a like a freakom girls trip, yes, like the Cobbo

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Speaker 1: San Lucas or whatever, and I don't know whatever it's.

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Speaker 1: And someone wants to come and bring the baby. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know what, say you though, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I feel a certain kind of way about this. But

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Speaker 4: there's a time and a place.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying the mom is wrong for wanting to

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Speaker 3: bring the baby?

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Speaker 1: Yes to a girl's weekend? But look, there's a time

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Speaker 1: and a place. Are we going to Wisconsin Dell's?

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Speaker 4: You know? Are are we going to?

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Speaker 1: Know?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is it something that's kid friendly or is it something

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Speaker 1: that's intended to be for adults?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, here's the thing. I don't feel like she's wrong, right, Lena.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like you're wrong for wanting a girl

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Speaker 2: a kid free weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I don't feel like you're wrong for.

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Speaker 2: Maybe being a little annoyed with your friend and how

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Speaker 2: she brings the baby everywhere.

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Speaker 3: You're allowed to feel how you feel.

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Speaker 2: But you are wrong for planning the annual girls trip

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Speaker 2: that you know she usually comes on, and then just

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Speaker 2: removing it, like starting a separate group chat.

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Speaker 3: That's very shady.

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Speaker 2: And you guys booked the whole trip, didn't tell her,

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Speaker 2: and then she reaches out to ask about the trip,

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Speaker 2: and then you just throw that on her, like we

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Speaker 2: didn't want you to come because of your baby.

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Speaker 1: But you couldn't given her the option. The president has

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Speaker 1: been set. This woman will not go anywhere without her child.

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Speaker 1: So I suppose you could one more time go back

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Speaker 1: to the well and say, hey, we're planning the girl's trip. However,

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Speaker 1: no kids on this thing, and then she could throw

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Speaker 2: But at least you told her. Because now if i'm

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Speaker 2: your friend, I feel like you move in shady. Why

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Speaker 2: y'all got a separate group chat without me? Why would

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Speaker 2: I ask about the trip it's already.

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Speaker 1: Booked because you're the lady who wants so we know

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Speaker 1: what we'll plan something else, I guess at the McDonald's

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Speaker 1: play place for you. I'm not trying to be mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm really not, but I mean to me. I'm not though,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I do not believe that. The look,

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Speaker 1: my mom and my dad went on trips that didn't

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Speaker 1: include us, Yes, because it was a different kind of trip,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There were adult trips, there

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Speaker 1: were girls trips. There's guys trips, and there's family trips.

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Speaker 1: It's either I think you pick a destination everybody brings

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Speaker 1: a girl's trip, we're gonna sit, you know, by the

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. The baby does not need

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Speaker 2: But you can at least tell your friend, hey, we

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Speaker 2: are going on our usual trip. You are invited, no

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Speaker 2: kids allowed, though, you can at least say that. But

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Speaker 2: to just start another group chat without me, it's very shady.

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Speaker 4: But it sounds like they've done that and she still

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Speaker 3: Well that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: How do you tell your friendly like I don't want

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Speaker 2: to be around your baby? Like why your baby always crying.

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Speaker 2: She said, the baby is always crying, and thats off.

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Speaker 5: You can you can tell your friends like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 5: I kind of want this to be like a girl's

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's bad.

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Speaker 5: And as a mother of a twelve month old, so

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Speaker 5: very close to this girl situation, I have a lot

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Speaker 5: to unpack here, and I think I want to start

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Speaker 5: with saying that just because I had a baby doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean that life has to change for everybody else around me.

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Speaker 3: I've changed my own life. I'm very well aware of that.

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Speaker 5: I am so happy with my choice, and therefore I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to affect your trip and your trip if

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Speaker 5: we're all going in a girl's trip, like this is

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Speaker 5: our set thing, we do this every year, whatever it is, Like,

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Speaker 5: if I can't go, then I say my ass home

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Speaker 5: and I can't go if I'm not comfortable leaving my baby,

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Speaker 5: that's okay, And as friends, I expect you guys to

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Speaker 5: be okay with that, which just sounds like the girls

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Speaker 5: would be if we have no choice. Really, but that's

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Speaker 5: like where I'm at, Like, okay, if I'm staying home,

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Speaker 5: staying home, I can't do everything anymore.

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Speaker 1: And that's okay, But how many times fallowing in it

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Speaker 1: do your friends have to ask you to do something

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Speaker 1: that you bring the baby before they decide it's we

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Speaker 1: can't ask anymore, like because it's it's a fight every

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Speaker 1: time and you're not getting it. You're not getting that

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Speaker 1: there's a time and a place for that. There's a

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think babies belong everywhere, and that's me

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Speaker 5: a privileged position by saying like I can't meet you

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Speaker 5: leave my baby with either dad or grandma whoever. Right,

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Speaker 5: I have the village. I'm so aware of that. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time, it's like, I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: shouldn't have to be told by you guys like I

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Speaker 5: the room to be like, Okay, this is a girl's trip,

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Speaker 5: Like no baby on the boob on this one, you

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Speaker 4: You have a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Self awareness about this, police, Yeah, I do, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like this woman does. And I understand that

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Speaker 1: she's dedicated to being a parent and she wants to

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Speaker 1: to as consistent of childcare or a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I understand all that. But that might mean then that

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Speaker 1: she doesn't get to do everything anymore, and that's the shame.

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Speaker 1: But you chose to have a kid, and and so

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Speaker 1: you either that's it's an extra step for you, and

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Speaker 1: I acknowledge that it's an extra step for you, but

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Speaker 1: it is, yeah, and it's a step I might have

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Speaker 1: to take, or maybe I do. You know, that's another thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many of these other girls have kids.

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Speaker 1: They're not bringing their kids, which means they have the

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Speaker 6: I still think you go about it, like Keeky said,

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Speaker 6: the proper channels so you can feel good about yourself.

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Speaker 6: So even in the long thing, Hey, we're planning this trip,

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Speaker 6: you know, and then you say, oh, whatever her name is, Hey, Maya,

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Speaker 6: I'm so sorry if you can't come because of the baby.

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Speaker 6: We totally understand you will be missed. That's a nice

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Speaker 3: Will miss you and you're not being shady about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and she wants to be invited.

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Speaker 5: I'm as a mother, like, we want to be invited,

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Speaker 5: even if you know, like Okay, Paulina probably can't go,

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Speaker 3: You know, she's not.

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Speaker 5: Gonna leave whatever. At least I want to get that

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Speaker 5: invite and feel included FaceTime. You want what else you know,

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Speaker 5: But from the mother's perspective, we have to be okay.

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Speaker 5: What's staying back and saying Okay, this isn't for me.

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Speaker 4: You do, and I don't think this woman is.

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Speaker 1: She's proven that, so I guess I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many times I have to ask my friend to go

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Speaker 1: he or she's just not getting it and I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: about that, but like this is a adult's only trip. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I can no longer run the risk of fighting

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Speaker 4: I'd love to know what you think. Hey, Kate, Hi,

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Speaker 4: how are you hi? Ky?

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Speaker 1: Good morning? So what do you think Kiki's court? Essentially,

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Speaker 1: there's a woman who's part of a friend group that

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Speaker 1: brings her kid to everything.

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Speaker 4: Her baby, and the friends.

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Speaker 1: Are like, look, we're gonna it's it's gone on long enough.

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Speaker 1: We're going on an adult's all girls trip. We don't

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Speaker 1: want the baby there, so they kind of have planned

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Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, I have two toddlers of

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Speaker 7: my own. Number one, if I'm going on a girl's trip,

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Speaker 7: the toddlers for not coming.

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Speaker 4: With yeah, I mean yeah.

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Speaker 7: And honestly, like I wait for my friends to say, like, oh,

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Speaker 7: the baby is welcome, the kids are welcome to come.

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Speaker 7: I don't automatically assume my children are invited to everything.

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Speaker 7: And I love my kids very much, but I don't

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Speaker 7: want them there all the time. This mom needs to

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Speaker 7: like rooms exactly like Paulina said, you can't bring your

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Speaker 7: baby everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, no, I think I think you're right.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Kate, thank you?

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Speaker 5: Or husband, like sometimes I don't want to hang out

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Speaker 5: with your husband and your boyfriend, like leave them at

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's any difference.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's any different than the girl or

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Speaker 1: the guy that can't go anywhere without their significant other.

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, he or she is not invited on

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Speaker 1: this trip. It is not. It is a guy's trip

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Speaker 1: or a girl's trip. And if you then decide I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing my wife or girlfriend, well, first of all, that's

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Speaker 1: going to be weird if the rest of us don't,

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Speaker 1: or then all of a sudden, it becomes a whole

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Speaker 1: different kind of trip. Which I think there's a time

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Speaker 2: And you know what I feel Lena in this, because

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Speaker 3: And now it's a family trip.

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Speaker 1: Let me see here, I'm going to throw all the texts.

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Speaker 4: No, they shouldn't. No, they shouldn't.

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Speaker 5: I think they mean like other times, like let's go

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Speaker 1: It's just this particular trip, we're not doing that. Hey, Emily, Hi, Emily, Hi, Hey,

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Speaker 4: For the baby, that's hey, look and I hear that.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying the friends need to consider that as well,

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Speaker 8: I just it's just a different approach potentially to think

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Speaker 4: It's a very different vibe, Emily.

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Speaker 1: When I'm at the signor frogs in Cotameto and they're pouring,

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Speaker 4: We can't have this, It's totally.

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Speaker 1: I agree, Emily, don't fort my fun have a good

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Speaker 3: Get rid of the baby.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Hangover movie with the baby. What is

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Speaker 1: Hey Carlos?

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Speaker 4: Hey? Man? What do you? What say you in Kiki's cord?

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Speaker 9: Listen, man, I say she's got a kick rocks.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 9: We do and we gotta, we gotta. We do a

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Speaker 9: do a friend's trip as well. Every year, you know,

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Speaker 9: a bunch of couples go to get together, get a dinner,

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Speaker 9: And you know, it started coming as okay, there's no

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Speaker 4: You know, we're we're old.

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Speaker 9: I'm forty four years old, so we have older kids now,

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven year old. You know, so we we're we're older.

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Speaker 9: And so they started one one couple started bringing their

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Speaker 9: My daughter's out of here. We tell them they beat it,

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Speaker 9: we just don't allow me. I don't care if you're

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Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those that get having fun.

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Speaker 9: I don't be freaky to say no diddy stuff.

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Speaker 4: What sort of established what sort of group business? And

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't play well with others, so no, you know,

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Speaker 9: We're gonna we're gonna let loose, you know, So I

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Speaker 3: Now run a hang with Carlon.

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Speaker 1: I do too, and I would like to see what

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Speaker 1: So you bring up a good point. Kiki's court. It's

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Speaker 4: But what do you think?

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Speaker 4: And that's why I just.

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Speaker 10: Kind of like upset me when to hear like their

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Speaker 10: I totally understand where she's coming from and being upset.

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Speaker 10: I would be upset too if somebody didn't include me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and pretty I hear you, and I agree

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Speaker 4: I gotta think this is a lie.

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Speaker 1: If this is just a one time deal she had

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Speaker 4: Of them so we can go.

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Speaker 1: We don't know any of this, but I'd like to

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Speaker 10: Right, right, right, But for this specific events, sinsitive annually

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Thank you so much, Brittany.

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Speaker 1: Have a good day.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome. Glad you called. I don't know, case closed.

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Speaker 4: What do you think? Man, you're the.

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Speaker 2: Judge, Lena, listen you you are right to not want

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Speaker 3: Some people don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: I want to hit that crying. How happened?

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Speaker 2: This is your friend. You could have text her and

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's when I found out my friends got separate group

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Speaker 3: You shady forever to me. Mm hmm, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 3: Put me in a group chat, man.

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Speaker 4: Cancel the reservation at Chippendale. Can't come now. No baby's

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