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Speaker 1: podcast Memorial Day weekend. I actually just found that out today.

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Speaker 1: Uh but it It is a great weekend, three day

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the sun's coming out. Sun's out where I'm living. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple, a couple of topics, a couple

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Speaker 1: Obviously the practice I was at Nick Boson went down,

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Speaker 1: some thoughts on that, and then like always Middlecoff mail

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Speaker 1: a big Middlecoff mail bag uh kind of Q and

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Speaker 1: And in the NBA, it's a little different in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So when players show some big picture awareness to take

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Speaker 1: off season to really learn Kyle Shanahan's offense. And to me,

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing with Jimmy is he's got to take

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Speaker 1: big steps. I haven't article well, I guess if you're

427
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Speaker 1: listening to this is Friday I wrote in The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: To me, the biggest area for growth for Jimmy is

429
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Speaker 1: mentally being smart. Think about this. He's been injured twice,

430
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Speaker 1: both outside the pocket, and his game is a little

431
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Speaker 1: bit like Rogers and Russell Wilson. He scrambles and moves

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Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage to ultimately throw. He's not

433
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Speaker 1: necessarily like a Kaepernick type Mariota. I don't even know

434
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Speaker 1: if Mariota runs. I'm trying to think of a runner,

435
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson, a guy that looks to run.

436
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: He's really kind of like, uh, if he ever becomes

437
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Speaker 1: a superstar, like I think he has the talent to

438
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Speaker 1: be I think his game would be a little Rogers like. Again,

439
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Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, Rogers a Hall of Famer, and

440
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he'll ever be that good. But

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Speaker 1: my point is they're playing styles are somewhat similar. It's

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Speaker 1: why Rogers has been banged up a lot. He moves

443
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Speaker 1: a lot behind the pocket. He kind of freelances. So

444
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: does Jimmy, and that's what makes him great. Well, last

445
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Speaker 1: year against the Chiefs when he tore his A c L.

446
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: How did he tear his A c L. He wasn't

447
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: inside the pocket because a lot of the major injuries

448
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: inside the pocket are kind of flukey and random the

449
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: injuries outside the pocket, if you think about it, that's

450
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: where Jimmy's were in the Kansas City one, and I

451
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: think it was against Miami. Wasn't when he was in

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Speaker 1: New England. Well, if you're outside the pocket, there's not

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman in front of you and a defender,

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Speaker 1: especially if it's the middle linebacker or safety or even

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Speaker 1: a defensive like an end. They're running full speed, you know,

456
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Speaker 1: like three four or eight yards of getting just a

457
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: full head of steam when a defensive lineman hit you

458
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: inside the pocket. Even if It's like Khalil Mcraron Donald.

459
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: They've had to go through an offensive lineman that impedes

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Speaker 1: their path a little bit. But if I'm on outside

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Speaker 1: the pocket and the middle linebacker, you know, Bobby Wagner

462
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Speaker 1: or you know Earl Thomas or whoever is chasing me,

463
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: he's just chasing me. You know, he's just in a

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Speaker 1: full sprint. So I think Jimmy's really gotta get more

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Speaker 1: careful outside the pocket. That to me is the key.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Iowa offensive linemen and Iowa

467
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Speaker 1: tight ends. You can make an argument that Iowa is

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Speaker 1: tied end university right now. I would agree. You got Kittle,

469
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Speaker 1: then you got the two first round picks this year.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Hockinson went in the top ten. Noah Fan win twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty I mean, think about that. You got George Kittle,

472
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Speaker 1: who once you know it probably goes grunt Kelsey. He's

473
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Speaker 1: right up there. You know, you could say ERTs he's

474
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Speaker 1: different than Kelsey and Hurts because Kittle is a badass blocker. Now,

475
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: ERT's and Kelsey are probably more consistent catching, especially intermediate short,

476
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Speaker 1: but Kittle all, I mean, Kittle's got a chance to

477
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Speaker 1: be a really really good player. So I see that.

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Speaker 1: And besides Riley Reef uh from the Vikings, isn't Riley Reef?

479
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Speaker 1: I guess is he on the Vikings? On that he

480
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Speaker 1: was on the Packers? That I might have to google

481
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Speaker 1: that one. Uh. They don't have many busts alignment gallery. Uh.

482
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Speaker 1: And they have two potential first round draft picks coming

483
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Speaker 1: up next year. There sometimes can sidered a fake team

484
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Speaker 1: in college football. I don't think that. I think when

485
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: you've heard before like Colin Coward ripping him, and I

486
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: don't even think he was ripping him. I think his

487
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Speaker 1: point was pretty valid. They just don't have the team speed.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they win that conference, which it's gonna be

489
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Speaker 1: hard for them, or it was with Urban and even

490
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: with hardball, they're not gonna have the speed once you

491
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Speaker 1: match up with an l s U, with a Georgia,

492
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: with an Oklahoma remember when Stanford played him and McCaffrey

493
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: looked like Walter Payton. It's just it's more of a

494
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Speaker 1: team speed. They have NFL players, they have a coach

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Speaker 1: that's us anyone in the in the NFL, Belichick, Andy Reid,

496
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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, whoever. They love Kirk Farrens. I mean, I

497
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: worked for Pat Hill, that was his assistant when they

498
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Speaker 1: were in Cleveland together for Belichick. Swore by him. I mean,

499
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Speaker 1: Kirk Ferrence is a high level, high level coach, and

500
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Speaker 1: it's why I always support when people make fun of

501
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: him when he gets those contracts. He's turned Iowa into

502
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Speaker 1: an NFL factory. Now, it's still hard to be like

503
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: there is a difference for Iowa than just Michigan, Ohio

504
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: State and even Penn State. You you could argue that

505
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Speaker 1: Ohaia Iowa is basically Wisconsin minus because Wisconsin consistently gets

506
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: a little bit better athlete, you know, at the skill position.

507
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: But I think similar get good line and get good

508
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Speaker 1: tight ends. Get kind of the overachiever quarterback, you know

509
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: that will be selling insurance by the time he's tent.

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Speaker 1: That's why, I wan, it's why think about this. The

511
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: one time was consin as a sweet NFL quarterback, what happened?

512
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Speaker 1: They went to the Rose Bowl. They just dominant, They

513
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Speaker 1: won the conference. They went to the Rose Bowl. Russell

514
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Speaker 1: Wilson and I mean hell Iowa. I was out of

515
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Speaker 1: practice the other day with the Niners, like CG. Bethord

516
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Speaker 1: probably one of the better Iowa quarterbacks in the last

517
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Speaker 1: ten years. Well, I gotta practice. Nick Mullins already taken

518
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Speaker 1: second team rems. So yeah, I mean I was tight

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Speaker 1: end a lineman. You I like that. Hey, John, diehard

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Speaker 1: Packers fan here, what are your thoughts in the running

521
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Speaker 1: back Aaron Jones. I think he's under the rated player

522
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: that this year will break out since he'll be available

523
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: for all the games and his head coach who loves

524
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: to pound the rock. I'll be honest because I don't

525
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm just making it up. I

526
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Speaker 1: don't know that much about Aaron Jones. Beside hearing Packer

527
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: fans complaining a lot that McCarthy wasn't playing him enough.

528
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: I heard somewhere that Rogers likes him a lot. Uh, well,

529
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Speaker 1: you just look at La Fleur, what he comes from

530
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: obviously in uh just coming from Tennessee. Huge factor in

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Speaker 1: the run with Derrick Henry and Dion Lewis. His his

532
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Speaker 1: base with McVeigh and that system. They love running the ball.

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Speaker 1: Uh If Aaron Jones, who should be They're starting running back, yes,

534
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: should have a major role, But I have it feels

535
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Speaker 1: like I've been hearing about Aaron Jones and fantasy leagues

536
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, and it's been some

537
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: to be left. Some was there to be desired, right,

538
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Speaker 1: But I do think it's fair to say you go

539
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: in open minded that you have a coach who wants

540
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: to run the ball, you gotta balance out your offense

541
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'm just fascinating to see what

542
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: their offense is gonna look like. But yeah, I mean

543
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: i'd be bullish on Aaron Jones too, but again, I

544
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: can't pretend to like have some scattering report. I don't

545
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: know him that well as a player. I was wondering

546
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: what the Pats losing Gronk, have they done enough this

547
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: offseason to replace his production. They've upgraded that receiver, but

548
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: haven't done much with tight end. Well, I I think

549
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: you can look at it like this. I love Sony Michelle.

550
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: They drafted Sony Michelle in the first round. His season

551
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: was kind of hit or missed during the year, but

552
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: then he was freaking awesome in the playoffs. I think

553
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: he ran up for over four hundred yards and three

554
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: playoff games four or five touchdowns. I think it's fair

555
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: to say that one of the breakout players in the

556
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Speaker 1: NFL this year that you look up, you know, at

557
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the end of December and you go, Damn Sony Michelle

558
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: is yards and ten touchdowns. Like, to me, when's the

559
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: last time the Patriots had a true bell cow running back?

560
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: One they they would build. Elchick drafts a running back

561
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: in the first round. That was kind of crazy when

562
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Speaker 1: he did that. I think he gets forgotten, Like Sony

563
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: is not just some mid round guy that they found

564
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Speaker 1: a diamond. Sony is a first round blue Chipper from

565
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Speaker 1: Georgia who dominated in the playoffs. So I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just what are they gonna do to replace Cronk?

567
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: And the more I thought about it, because Andrea Woudala

568
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: the other day said that Steph and Clay were the

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Speaker 1: black version of Brady and Gronk, And then I started thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: if they are the black version of Brady and Cronk,

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Speaker 1: if you remove Draymond from the Warriors, that's a pretty

572
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: big deal. And it just got me thinking, like losing Gronk,

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Speaker 1: who is clearly over this last six or seven year

574
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: Patriots second dynasty has been their second best player. I mean,

575
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Speaker 1: and I know at different points in times he's kind

576
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: of been a shell of himself, but that is a

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: pretty big loss. So I think they're gonna depend heavily

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Speaker 1: on Sony, which I confident is gonna have a good year,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna need a lot out of nikkil Harry.

580
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: You know, one the last time they had a rookie

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00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver do a lot. Now they don't draft that

582
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: many rookie wide receivers. But I'm a big nickeel Harry guy,

583
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: but he's got to give him I think safe to

584
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Speaker 1: say sixty to seventy catches and six or seven touchdowns,

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00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: which if you if I told you right now, if

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00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: you're a Pats fan, nikkil Harry catches sixty eight balls,

587
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns and yards, you'd be like, that's a pretty

588
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: good year, right, assuming Edelman is good, assuming they find

589
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: some tight end to go with Benjamin Watson and Sony

590
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: rushes for you know, over a thousand yards, and Brady's Brady.

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Speaker 1: And their defense is gonna be good. I mean they've

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Speaker 1: added pieces of defense. I think the defense is gonna

593
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Speaker 1: be even better than it was last year. It was good.

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Speaker 1: How come everyone is always attributing the Patriots success to

595
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Speaker 1: their ability to be multiple in their schemes and different

596
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: looks that they throw out at you on offense and defense.

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00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: How come the league hasn't caught up similar to how

598
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: the NBA caught up to three point shooting well one.

599
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: I think part of most good offenses are multidimensional, you know,

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: like when you look at the Let's I think the Rams.

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00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: The Rams are pretty one dimensional. You know that their

602
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: scheme is pretty basic. I think the multidimensional offenses would

603
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: be the Saints and the Chiefs beside the Patriots that

604
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: they can do a lot, like on any given game,

605
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: you don't know what's gonna hit you, like anything could

606
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: hit you. They can run the ball down your throat.

607
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: They could four speed tight ends, they can throw it

608
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: to wide receivers. They can do a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call I would say a lot of the

610
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Speaker 1: really really good offenses in the NFL. And those are

611
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the two that jumped to my mind a couple of

612
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: years ago, the Steelers Levian Bell, Antonio Brown, Juice Smith.

613
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Speaker 1: Most of the good offenses are are multidimensional. I think

614
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the reason not a lot of defenses are multidimensional because

615
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots had the best defensive coordinator in the NFL

616
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: in Belichick. So most of these coordinators, you know, they're there,

617
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: they just fall back on their base defense, which is

618
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: either three four four three, like that's what they feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable doing. I mean, how many coaches beside Belichick can

620
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: really just run like what is the Patriots defense? I

621
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: honestly don't know. I mean, how would you describe it?

622
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: Their bases whoever their opponent is that weekend, which no

623
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: other team in the NFL can say that. I actually

624
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: give this guy credit. I think they've changed a lot,

625
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because of their personnel. Is the Rams

626
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: and Wade Phillips, like they're they're basically a hybrid three

627
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Speaker 1: four four three. I mean they do a good job.

628
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips has done a good job. But Wade Phillips

629
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Speaker 1: also seventy plus years old, has been the league for

630
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Speaker 1: forty years, So it takes the defense. I think it's

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Speaker 1: really hard to find a great offensive coach that knows quarterbacks.

632
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: But you can find offensive coaches, you know, I mean,

633
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: they're only Sean Payton, Andy Reid, even like Kyle and McVeigh.

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00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna see this year a lot of these

635
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Speaker 1: guys hired his head coaches are gonna fail but there

636
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: are better offensive coaches than there are better defensive coaches.

637
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Like how many side Belichick name me five really good

638
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: defensive coaches. Pete Carroll, Fangio, I mean the list of

639
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: short Gus Bradley, Well, yeah, I'll give Gus. You know,

640
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: it's I'm telling you, it's it's difficult. I'm probably Zimmer.

641
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I probably left a couple of guys out. But there

642
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: if you notice a couple of those guys that I named,

643
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Zimmers in his sixties. Pete Carroll's in his sixties. If

644
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: you count Miranelli, he's old. You know, Gus is basically

645
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: just copying what Pete did. So it's just it's there

646
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: are a lot more seasoned offensive coaches, right, I think.

647
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: And he's been in the league twenty five years. Sean

648
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: Payton feels like it's been in the league forever. Well,

649
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: the top, a couple of top offensive guys have really

650
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: been around a long time. And then even the young guys.

651
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: If you use mcvagh and Kyle it's called what it is,

652
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: they're pretty unique. I mean Kyle Shanahan, his dad is

653
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive minds in the NFL history.

654
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: And Mike Shanahan so he is. I mean, that's literally

655
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: his father. I've been at nine a practice and you

656
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: just walked by, like, hey, Mike is Mike Shanahan. And

657
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh has been around football all of his life

658
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: with his dad was or his grandpa you know, was

659
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: the uh one of the main parts of the fort

660
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: Or dynasty as the GM and then he started coaching

661
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: the moment he quit playing at twenty two. To me,

662
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: that's a huge benefit. So, yeah, Sean mcveigh's my age

663
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: four years old, but he's been coaching for eleven years

664
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Is first year in the NFL was like,

665
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: oh eight, So he's been you know, even at thirty

666
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: three years old, every year of his professional life has

667
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: been in the NFL's kind of like Belichick. Belichick has

668
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: been in the league, Like he didn't go to college

669
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: at all, right to the NFL and he's been in

670
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: the league ever since. Huge huge Eagles fans here, And

671
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: it comes with pessimism, but do you think the Eagles

672
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: have done enough during the off season to bolster the

673
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: secondary to make a legitimate Super Bowl run to compete

674
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: at the juggernaut offenses in the league. Well, I've talked

675
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: to a couple of people about this over the offseason.

676
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Their secondary on paper is not good. You know, Sidney

677
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: Jones a good player. I don't know. You know so far,

678
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: you'd have to probably lean know Malcolm Jenkins, probably their

679
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: best dB is holding out because he wants a new contract.

680
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: Who's their other corner is they resigned Darby who injured

681
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: his knee. I think what they tell you is we're

682
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna our front seven is gonna dominate. We're gonna kick

683
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: your ass up front, especially our defensive line, and we're

684
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: gonna win by scoring a lot of points and sacking

685
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Because that that that formula works. I think

686
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs did it last year. I think honestly here

687
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: you want to hear a hot take from middle Cough

688
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: on a Thursday night. I think secondary talent in the

689
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: secondary in two thousand nineteen is a little overrated. Would

690
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: you rather have a lockdown secondary one they don't exist,

691
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: or dominant defensive line because if you give me a

692
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: dominant defensive line, look at the top three teams in

693
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: sacks last year. Chiefs playoffs, Ravens playoffs. UH Steelers missed

694
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. On the last weekend of the season and

695
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the craziest things happening, like the

696
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: history of their franchise, their playoff team. So if you

697
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: can dominate it up front, and this is like the

698
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: best case scenario for the forty diners just walking by

699
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: their defensive line group. Their dvs aren't very good, but

700
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna hopefully have you know, three double digits at guys,

701
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, and be you know, to me, a good

702
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: season sack wise is in the mid forties. And then

703
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: on top of that a bunch of pressure because if

704
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: you've got three, if you've got two or three guys

705
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: is double digit sack guys, that means you can't double

706
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: team the rest, So that means the randoms make place.

707
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: It's really kind of what the Eagles held their hat

708
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: on when they won the Super Bowl. Like when you

709
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: have backups like Chris Long who can give you a

710
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: five or six sacks, that means you're double digit sat guys,

711
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: it feels like they're twelve sacks are it's like eighteen.

712
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: So to me, the key is dominating up front. Uh.

713
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: I love the different angles. Very glad I found you.

714
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Thanks Thomas. What is the insight on ye, teams just

715
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: straight up release players instead of trying to gain some

716
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: compensation into trade. Example blocks with Gerald McCoy or the

717
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: Sons when they acquired Austin Rivers. I'm guessing terms of players.

718
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Contract plays a part. Yeah, I think I the Austin

719
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Rivers one might have just been bad. Uh might have

720
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: just been a bad personnel decision. The McCoy on is

721
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: pretty simple. No one was trading for thirteen million dollars

722
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: because if you trade for him, here's the thing, when

723
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: you get a vested veteran. I'm not exactly Johnny capp

724
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: manager salary cap manager here, but a guy like Gerald McCoy,

725
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I think his salary cap hit his thirteen million dollars,

726
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I don't have his contract up.

727
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: His base salaries relatively high. Well, if you trade for him,

728
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: you're basically acknowledging he's probably gonna make your team. Well,

729
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: if he makes your team, his salary is then guaranteed.

730
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: So if you'd rather just yeah, they're probably gonna release him,

731
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: then I can try to sign him, and if he

732
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: really is shot, I can cut him no big deal,

733
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: and I don't feel obligated to keep him, so I

734
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: think that plays. I think the contract more in the NFL.

735
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: Whenever you see a good player cut or even just

736
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: an aging older player that's still really, you know, still talent,

737
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: like General McCoy is still talented. Cut, it is one

738
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: million percent the contract. It really, as crazy as it sounds,

739
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's the talent unless it's like, you know,

740
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: like someone would trade for Aaron Donald or Khalil Back

741
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: right now, you know their contract wouldn't hinder their ability,

742
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: or Julio Jones or who you know, Odell Beckham. Like

743
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: young players for sure, but older players, I think teams

744
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: simply look at I'm not gonna risk trading for an

745
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: older player that might be shot who makes an astronomical

746
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: amount of money. So that's where these guys with these

747
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: big contracts and kind of get themselves in position where god,

748
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: no one's messing with him because it's just kind of crazy,

749
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: like damn, they just no one traded for him. Now,

750
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: half the teams in the league run a base three four,

751
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: give or take. He's only a four three defensive lineman.

752
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: So did he actually signed with the Browns, I don't.

753
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's meeting with the Browns as

754
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: I think I read today tomorrow as a Friday. Wouldn't

755
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: shock me if he signs there, But I would imagine

756
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: some teams still might pay him a decent chunk of change.

757
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: And this is also why when people crush like the

758
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's or whoever, why don't you spend more money? Well,

759
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: you might have an extra million or two to pay

760
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: a guy like this if you want him. I'm not

761
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: saying he wants jeryld McCoy, but he would be in

762
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: position to pay him if he did. So. It always

763
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: behooves you in the NFL to have some cap space available.

764
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: How challenging is the Bill's route to a wild card

765
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: birth and a realistic goal for two thousand nineteen, I'd

766
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: say it's pretty challenging. Uh, I mean, it's all gonna

767
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: it's all gonna hinge on Josh Allen. Does Josh Allen

768
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: become a guy that can throw thirty touchdowns and throw

769
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: fifty eight six completion percentage? Where is he struggling to

770
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: throw for twenty touchdowns? And they're just so relying on

771
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: their defense to me, to me, either him or Sam

772
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: on one of the two guys, I don't know, which

773
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: and I'm rooting for him both, following both on Instagram.

774
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: They seem like awesome guys, like you'd like to be

775
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: friends with him and hang out with them. Big fan

776
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: of them both. And I didn't like Josh Allen as

777
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: a player, still not in love with the player, but

778
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I've grown to like the guy a lot.

779
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. I hope I'm wrong on that,

780
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: but I I just you know, they signed a couple

781
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: of midget wide receivers. You know, their head coach is

782
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: a really good defensive coach, but he doesn't really know

783
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: anything about offense. They got Dable, the dude from Alabama,

784
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: who's you know, got a little too much meat head

785
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know. I just I'm rooting for

786
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: the Bills. I actually probably rather see the Bills be

787
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: good than the Jets, but I'd probably lean the Jets.

788
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 1: The Jets are more likely because here's the one thing.

789
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I do feel confident about this. This is like a

790
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: confident wishy washy take. I'm confident that either the Bills

791
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: or the Jets make a wild card this year. I

792
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: just don't know which one. Like to me, If the

793
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: Bills do it, it's pretty clear, like Josh Allen is

794
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: a star, might be strong, but has one of those

795
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: years like this guy is gonna be a star. And

796
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: I think we all think Sam Donald's gonna be pretty good.

797
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: So if if they do it, he's really good, it's

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00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: probably a little bit easier because his head coach is

799
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback guy, and their defense is gonna better with

800
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. They got Levan Bell. I'd probably lean the Jets,

801
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of sneaky rooting for the for the Bills.

802
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I know you've mentioned Ryan Grixson in the past, working

803
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: with him at the Eagles. Why was he so bad

804
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: as a GM? I just don't think he had a

805
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: great feel for players like he just I mean, the

806
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: thing I always remember he put a second round grade

807
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: on Von Miller. Now, listen, some opinions differ on players,

808
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: but there are certain players in every draft where you go, like,

809
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: there shouldn't have been anyone in your draft room that goes,

810
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: you know what, say Kwan Barkley, I don't think he's

811
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: very good. I mean that was kind of his take

812
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: on Von Miller. I was like, I just I don't know,

813
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't see it like just some players like, yeah,

814
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: everyone sees it. You know, this guy is just elite.

815
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: He's just he's just one of those guys. And it's

816
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: just hard to explain. I just don't think he was

817
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: ever a very good scout and it proved out, you know, Bully,

818
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: you know he was. He always the nicest guy to people.

819
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: And again, bosses, there's just across the line of being

820
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: a boss like intimidating, And to me, it's one thing

821
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: to kind of rule with an iron fist if you

822
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: have a track record, But when you're not very good

823
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: at your job and people don't really respect you, can

824
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: you beat the asshole in the room? I don't know.

825
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: And seeing Lewis Riddick articulated everything so well in terms

826
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: of the game and player evaluation on TV the last

827
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: couple of years, why isn't he considered the Jets for

828
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: the Jets opening Listen? I've said over and over, I've

829
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: been around Howie uh Andy Veach. I mean, these guys

830
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: are some of the best in their field, and I

831
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: always thought Louis was right up there with him, as

832
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: intelligent of as human as you'll meet, let alone football.

833
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: And then he eat Breeze and sleeps it. I mean,

834
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: if if Louis got the opportunity to be a g him,

835
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: he'd be you have a chance. Now there's some randomness,

836
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, who his coach would be, all that stuff,

837
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know this, Lewis knows

838
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: what he's talking about. You know. It's you can't be

839
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: on television long enough without kind of getting exposed if

840
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: you don't. Like Lewis knows a ship and he Louis

841
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: loves it. I mean, just eat breeze and sleeps and

842
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: he gets it. You know, he just kind of understands

843
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: the team building, the coaching aspect, the scheme aspect. Now

844
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: I didn't always agree with him on players, but again

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Speaker 1: that's kind of natural. You're gonna butt head. Isn't different

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Speaker 1: on players. Like one thing that I kind of hung

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Speaker 1: my hat on an evaluation. I don't get as caught

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Speaker 1: up that the guy has the physical attributes at certain

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Speaker 1: things that he struggles at, because I would just look

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Speaker 1: at it as a scout going well, I just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want him to do that. We wouldn't ask him to

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Speaker 1: do that, or if our scheme dictated that he do that,

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Speaker 1: we would we wouldn't mess with him, you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's I don't get as caught up with guys with

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Speaker 1: certain mistakes that maybe some the coaches do. You know,

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Speaker 1: I probably differ a lot with coaches on players, so

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes, but you know, Louis is good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Louis is a smart s ob man. Can you comment

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Speaker 1: on whether or not you think the CFL is still

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Speaker 1: producing any NFL level talent. When I was in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it produced a couple of guys every year. We brought

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Speaker 1: in a guy I think he ended up signing with

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Speaker 1: the with the Saints, Tom Johnson act. She turned out

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty good player. I tried to get

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Speaker 1: this one guy from BC, but he ended up staying

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Speaker 1: in BC. Was a good player too, you know. I

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Speaker 1: think it's just kind of random, you know, it just

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Speaker 1: depends on who's in their league. Uh. I think they're

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Speaker 1: producing about the same as they always have. I also

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Speaker 1: think one thing that's hurt the CFL a little bit

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Speaker 1: is just on the fly. Actually just crossed my mind

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Speaker 1: the ninety man rosters. So there was a huge you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of training camp when you went from

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Speaker 1: eighty to fifty three, there's an extra Now twenty guys

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Speaker 1: that kind of rotates in and out of aractor squads

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Speaker 1: that would have been immediately in the CFL. So maybe

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Speaker 1: they actually are thinking about it getting a little less

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Speaker 1: NFL talent, uh, just because the rosters have been expanded

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Speaker 1: in the off season in CFL. Like, would you rather

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Speaker 1: take your chance of a a training camp even if you

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Speaker 1: are like the guy, or go to the CFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're twenty three or twenty four years old and

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Speaker 1: from America, you're gonna take your chance in training camp.

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Speaker 1: So the Canadian Football League you have to commit like

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Speaker 1: right now. Well, if you're in an O t A,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna leave the O t A even if

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Speaker 1: you are on the last minute on the roster to

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Speaker 1: go to the CFL, just because you'll just be telling yourself,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're from Alabama or Baylor or USC, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make this team once the pads come on. So

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Speaker 1: I I think the ninety man roster thinking about it

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Speaker 1: now has hurt the hurt the CFL a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to appreciate it. John Middlecoff three OW Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Tell all your friends have a good weekend. Don't drink

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Speaker 1: too much, don't have too much fun. I love them.

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