1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's Capitol. This is Bloomberg Sound on 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: How do you get fair and free elections? You have 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: to fight and win. It is offensive for Carry Lake 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: to say that these people behind me are slow rolling. 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Democracy is the system that will send Carry Lake back 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: to whatever dark corner of the Internet. She came from 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound on Politics, Policy and Perspective from DC's top Names. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Are you all ready to fight? Are you ready to 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: get this done first? Shall Walker is a nightmare for liberals. 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: He's an African American Conservative. They hit belittle him. Bloomberg 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The election 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: week is not over yet. Welcome to the fastest hour 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: in politics. With thousands of votes still to be counted 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: in the balance of power on Capitol Hill still this 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Friday up in the air. Republicans appear to be crawling 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: towards a slim majority in the House, but Democrats still 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: have a path and they feel good about the Senate. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Will review the landscape with Major Garrett, the CBS News 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent, author of the book The Big Truth, is 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: back with us one week later to discuss what we've 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: learned our Signature panel is with us to to review 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the big races yet to be called and Donald Trump's 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: latest assault on his own party. Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: Davis and Jeannie Chanzano have lived through it all with 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: us this week, and they're here for the hour. So yes, 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: here we are on d plus three and still no 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: official call on the House or the Senate. We told 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: you this could happen, and it will likely be days 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: more until all this is done. The Republicans are getting 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: pretty close in the House, seven seats by my count 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: away from claiming majority that which Kevin McCarthy claimed on 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Democrats who have lost nine here would essentially 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: have to run the table. But there it's still mathematically possible. 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, still no call in Lauren Bobert's race, 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: Colorado's third she's leading Democrat Adam Fish by I guess 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: it's heading for a recount, most likely on the Senate side. 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: It's still a best of three. In Nevada, Senator Catherine 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: Cortes Mastow trailing Republican Adam Laxalt by about nine thousand 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: votes about one percent. Democrats that were optimistic about the 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: mail in balance yet to be counted, and Senator Mark 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Kelly in Arizona is leading Blake Masters still by about 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: five percentage points, and it sounds like they're counting through 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: the weekend. Carry Lake, the Republican candidate for governor in 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: Arizona who's trailing Democrat Katie Hobbs, is accusing the state 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: of purposefully slow rolling the count something that she's been 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: claiming since actually before election night. This was her own election. 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I listened, if we have to fight through the bs 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: and the garbage, then we will fight through the bs 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: and the garbage. But how do you get fair and 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: free elections? You have to fight and win to make 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: them fair and free. And we needed another stark reminder 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: that we have incompetent people running the show in Arizona. 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Well you know, officials Amercopa County disagree as you might. 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: Well imagine, here's Bill Gates, remember he was with us 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, the county supervisor who was 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: here on sound on today, reacting to carry Lake. Listen, 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: it is offensive for Carrie Lake to say that these 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: people behind me are slow rolling this when they're working 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: fourteen to eighteen hours. So I really hope this is 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: the end of that. Now we can be patient and 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: respect the results when they come out, and so the 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: count will continue into the weekend. The outcome of these 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: two again will determine whether Georgia is the tiebreaker when 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: the runoff between Senator Warnock and herschel Walker happens on 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: December six. And we spoke one week ago, right at 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: this time about what was about to happen in these 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: mid term elections, in a fascinating conversation with Major Garrett, 68 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the CBS News Chief Washington correspondent, author of the book 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: The Big Truth, and we wanted to bring him back 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: exactly one week later because of his unique perspective on 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the stakes in this cycle, and because he's a connoisseur 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: of Kentucky bourbon. Major, welcome back. That's great to be 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: with you. When we spoke last week, did you think 74 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: the House would still be up in the year on Friday? 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was possible, But like many reporters who 76 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: were talking to Republicans very closely watching the House races 77 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: and the underlying polling data and Democrats who are doing 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: the same, it felt as if there would be more 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Republican victory sooner on election night than manifested. We're all 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: looking at Virginia and Rhode Island and Connecticut and Indiana's 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: first congressional districts early bellweathers, and by about nine thirty 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: on election night, those were coming back either as toss 83 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: ups or lean Democrats. In many cases the Republicans only 84 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: one one of three races they targeted in Virginia didn't win, 85 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the one in Rhode Island didn't win, Indiana didn't win anything. 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: They had circled the map on in Pennsylvania, and so 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: it became clear that this was if there was going 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to be a Republican resurgence or enough to get a majority, 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: it would probably have to happen out west, and my 90 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: co author David Becker dead too many outlets, including CBS, 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: we may not know for days upon days upon days, 92 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: because California votes counts its votes slowly, and typically that 93 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: doesn't matter because margins are so wide, they're well, they're 94 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: close in several house races. Those races are still awaiting verdicts, 95 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: and that's why we don't have a House majority yet. 96 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: And they've got a good half a million votes or 97 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: something that count in California's So here's the way here's 98 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: the way CBS News calculated. Some networks and cables have 99 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: projections up. We don't. What we do is we describe 100 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: where we think the floor for both parties in the houses, 101 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: and we believe the floor currently for the Republicans in 102 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: the House is to thirteen and the floor for Democrats 103 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: is two oh six. We don't offer projection numbers then 104 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: say plus or minus off that we think that's too confusing. 105 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: We believe the floor are for Democrats too oh six, 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the floor for Republicans to thirteen. Meeting Republicans are closer 107 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: to that magic number of two eighteens. They sure are 108 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: in the Senate. We talked a lot last week about 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: the fact that democracy was on the ballot, the fact 110 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: that we could have states stacked with people who deny 111 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: the results of election. It didn't happen quite that way. 112 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I know a lot of things are still up in 113 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: the air in Arizona and things could still happen, but 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: there seemed to be largely a rejection to that type 115 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: of rhetoric. And what's really been turned into a narrative 116 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: that it was a bad night for Donald Trump. But 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: we're people saying no to the phenomenon that you and 118 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: I were talking about. They were and look our book. 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: The big truth wasn't on the ballot in any respect. 120 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: But what we argue in the book, and it's really 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: not an argument, it's a celebration first of all of 122 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: election administrators and pull workers around our country and pull 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: observers who do this work every election and do it 124 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: better than any other country on the planet. Celebration of 125 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: that end, a complete declaration of the facts of the 126 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: election and how we can believe in election results going forward. 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: All of that was vindicated on Tuesday night because all 128 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: the procedures worked and the results are believed, and many 129 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: Republicans who were once playing with the notion of denialism 130 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: conceded exactly what they should do in America. You try 131 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: your best, and if you lose, you concede. And we 132 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: began to see that there really is a noticeable vote 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: her rejection in many places, under lots of different circumstances 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: of the idea that denialism is a believable thing. It's not. 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: And not only that for Republicans, I would say this 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to this entire party. It's destructive. If you have a 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: candidate who tells swing voters you might be conspirators in 138 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a crime against democracy, and it's not true. You know 139 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do, They're not going to vote for you. 140 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: And that played out over and over and over again. 141 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: What a scenario imagine if you're down at the MGM 142 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: at National Harbor later tonight, major, what do the odds 143 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: look like for for Democrats keeping the House? Is that 144 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: even a conversation we have with a straight face. Yes, 145 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: you can have a plausibly, but look, the trajectories do 146 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: favor Republicans and probably at the two to twenty maybe 147 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: twenty two margin. More important fact there is, and look, 148 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: whoever controls the House has supervision of the purse strings 149 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: in our federal government and the taxation. That's a constitutional 150 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: prerogative of the House majority. But House majorities matter in 151 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: their ability to enforce their will. The House, not elect. 152 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: The Senate is a majoritarian body. Well, when you only 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: have three or four or five votes to give, every 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: vote then becomes dramatic because if you have anyone walk 155 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: off the reservation and trust me. In the House Republican conference, 156 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who have already anounced 157 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: they want to walk off the reservation. If Kevin McCarthy 158 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: doesn't please them as the presumptive speaker, their problems only 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: begin to multiply and become more visible once they crossed 160 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: that to eight team threshold. This is a be careful 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: what you ask for a situation for Kevin McCarthy, right. 162 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, either he gets the gavel and has an 163 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: incredibly slim majority, maybe even less than Nancy Pelosi had, 164 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: or uh, you know, the Caesar games begin here, and 165 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: we were already hearing about several different challenges to his 166 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: authority in the Republican Party in the House. They're also 167 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: challenging leadership in the Senate right now. But is this 168 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: is this a good week or a bad one for 169 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy. I think it's a very complicated week for him, 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: far more complicated than he imagined. Look, he raised a 171 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: ton of money, traveled all over the country. He gave 172 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: a lot of assurances to Trumpian House Republicans that they 173 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: would get their way and get prominent positions, did all 174 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: the things you have to do to nail down your speakership. 175 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: But already today, Jason Miller, an adviser to former President Trump, said, 176 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: unless Kevin McCarthy declares right now that he supports Trump 177 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: in four, shouldn't be speaker. That's a shot across the bell. 178 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: What what possible role should that play in deciding who 179 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the next Speaker of the House is Well in a 180 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: Trumpian world, apparently a lot. When you look ahead to 181 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: a Trumpian world, potentially in twenty four and you see 182 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: the media, the conservative media assault on him, from the 183 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Murdoch media, you see Donald Trump lashing out at Glenn 184 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Yuncan do you think he actually announces next week? Every 185 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: indication I've gotten, and my colleague Robert Costa has gotten, 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: is that Tuesday is not an exploratory thing. It's not 187 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: a dipatone in the war. He's already got a committee. 188 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing he needs to explore. It's a full on 189 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: declaration that he's running. And then does that clear the 190 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: field or are we in a different world? Does not 191 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: know it does not talk about split screen political programming. 192 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: At the very same time or near the same time, 193 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Trump will be making an announcement if all goes on 194 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: schedule at marl Lago. Rhonda Santists will be just north 195 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: of West Palm Beach in Orlando, and of an event 196 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: with the Republican Governor's Association, and I guarantee you this, 197 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: they'll be more big party donors listening to Ron Santis 198 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: and watching Donald Trump on television. Wow, that's a lot 199 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: to think about. Major, thank you for coming back to 200 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: check in with us. It's a it's a pleasure to 201 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: compare notes. Major Garrett is the CBS Chief Washington correspondent, 202 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and the book is called The Big Truth, Upholding Democracy 203 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: in the Age of the Big Lie, and now that 204 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: we're through the midterms, it's actually even more relevant. I 205 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: would suggest our panel is with us for the rest 206 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: of the hour. This is a great opportunity to walk 207 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: through everything that's happened the past twenty four hours. I'm 208 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: gonna bring you sounds from all over the country since 209 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: we last spoke. Some of it will concern you. Some 210 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: of it, as ever, is amusing because we are talking 211 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: about politics after all. But we're walking into a weekend 212 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: with a lot of uncertainty here. Some races could be 213 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: called likely. The big ones are gonna last until next week. 214 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: As we discussed with Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzino, coming 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: up our signature panel right here where you would expect 216 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: on the fastest hour in polite six. I'm Joe Matthew 217 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: and Washington. Stay with us, will check traffic markets on 218 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: the way. Can you believe it's Friday. It seems like 219 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: it's been two weeks in one here. Stay with us. 220 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on 221 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Carrie Lake is not 222 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: at the moment at least winning the race for governor 223 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona. She's trailing by just a little bit here, 224 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: trailing Democrat Katie Hobbs. But the narrative remains the same, 225 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: well ever since election day, that they're slow rolling the count, 226 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: that ballots were being put in boxes and brought to 227 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: different places, that the tabulators were not working. And Bill Gates, 228 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: the the supervisor of the county, Maricopa County, forgive me, 229 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: he was with us a couple of days ago here 230 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Sound On. It's just asking everybody to bring 231 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: it down to not listen. I'm concerned about getting this 232 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: count done, and that's what everyone in this building is 233 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: concerned about. Everybody needs to calm down a little bit 234 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: and turn the rhetoric. Count. Yeah, he's telling reporters they're 235 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: going to be counting for the weekend. So that's not 236 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: just the Kerry Lake race, that's the Senate race as well, 237 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, who's up by about five percentage points five 238 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: and a half percentage points here in Democrats feel pretty 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: good about it. Let's assemble the panel and start the 240 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: conversation right there with Rick Davis and Gen Chanzano, Bloomberg 241 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: Politics contributors. Rick, you've been pretty consistent about this. You 242 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: didn't expect to call in Arizona last night, You don't 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: expect one tonight. How long are we looking? Probably through 244 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: the weekend. Um, this is not unusual. This is pretty 245 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: much how Arizona counts ballots. And uh, you know, Mark 246 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: Cope is one of the largest counties in America, so 247 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of ballots account and and they 248 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: get a lot of criticism, but they do a pretty 249 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: thorough job. Remember when they were protested and investigations occurred 250 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: in turned out that, you know, the account was incredibly accurate. So, uh, 251 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: if you want it right, you gotta do it right. 252 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: And I think you know that's exactly what they're doing. 253 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: So you know, they've got three more ballots account it'll 254 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: take through the weekend and probably in a Monday, and 255 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: that gives carry like plenty of opportunity to spread some 256 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: pretty wild conspiracy theories. Uh here, Jeanie, are we at 257 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: the point of of of danger when when someone like 258 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: Bill Gates comes out to brief reporters and asking Carry 259 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: Lake to call off the dogs, remembering the environment we 260 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: were in with people stalking drop off boxes ballot boxes 261 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: in the days leading up to this. That's right, and 262 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: she is helped in this effort by Donald Trump, who 263 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: has been out saying similar types of things. But the 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: reality is is the way in which they count the ballots, 265 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: as Rick just talked about, is long been known. They 266 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: have said how long it was going to take. It 267 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: may not be the way everybody wants it. We may 268 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: have wanted the results on election night, but that's simply 269 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: not the way they do business out in Arizona. And 270 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: Kelly had a lead when the Maricopa County ballots came 271 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: out last night, but by about so we extended his 272 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: lead overall about six percent versus Masters. You know, we 273 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: don't know how it's going to turn out, but there's 274 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: going to continue to be updates and they think they're 275 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: not going to really finish counting until after the weekend, 276 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: so everybody has just got to hold their fire. But 277 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: of course that doesn't work politically for somebody like carry Lake, 278 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: so she certainly won't. Looking at Nevada, it's it's kind 279 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: of a similar situation here, Rick, where you've got a 280 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: race that is, you know, not they're not able to 281 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: call it, but Democrats feel pretty good about it. Over 282 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand at last. I heard ballots that that 283 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: had to be counted. Still many of the mail in 284 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: from urban areas, and so they feel like they might 285 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: be able to close this deal. Could you see a 286 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: world in which Arizona Nevada both go Democrat in the 287 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: next Arizona The trajectory in the Senate is already pretty 288 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: much baked, right, It had something extraordinary would have to 289 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: happen for Kelly to lose that race. So when you 290 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: look at Laxalt being up by what less than nine thousand, 291 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: nine thousand votes, and you know, with over a hundred 292 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: thousand left and and trending towards the Democrats, I mean, 293 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: it's a slippery slope. Uh. And there's no question that 294 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Cortis Masto could get there. But again, this is gonna 295 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: be you know, like somebody wins by fifteen thousand votes 296 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: or ten thousand votes, and and so sure, and I'll 297 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: probably go to a recount. Will be still be talking 298 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: about this by the end of next week. But at 299 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think Democrats are right. 300 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the trend is with them. Accounting takes a while, 301 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: and at the end, if I were a betting man, 302 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: I would have to say that courtis mast overtakes Laxault 303 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: by a few thousand votes, you know, by by Monday 304 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: or Tuesday. Interesting challenge to the leadership in the Senate. 305 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's been talking about Kevin McCarthy and I see it. 306 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Punch Bowl got a copy of a letter from Senators 307 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: Rick Scott, Ron Johnson, Mike Lee calling for a delay 308 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: in the leadership election. Dear colleagues were all disappointed their 309 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: red wave failed to materialize, and there are multiple reasons 310 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: it did not. It says we need to have serious 311 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: discussions within our conference as to why and what can 312 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: be done to improve our chances in Uh, does Mitch 313 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: McConnell have something to worry about? Rick? You know, look, 314 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean this was a bad year and and he's 315 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: in leadership, so yeah, sure. And Rick Scott, well, you know, 316 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: probably not. I think the there's a lot more insulation 317 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: in the Senate than there is in the House when 318 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: it comes to like, you know, influenced by people like 319 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and trying to move leadership. Um. But look, 320 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: I mean there are people like Rick Scott who had 321 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: been saying all along that you know, he wanted to 322 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: see a leadership change. What's interesting is no real um 323 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: uh leadership types are calling for a change. So my 324 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: guess is this is the fringe um commit sing uh 325 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: and it won't amount much more to that. Uh. And look, 326 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean nobody said it more than Mitch McConnell. If 327 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: you'd had better cast of characters to run this cycle, 328 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: he might have had a better cushion of victory. Jennie, 329 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: I see you over there are Democrat canalysts sort of 330 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: smiling through this whole conversation, even though we're not in 331 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: the same room. But uh, is this not the like 332 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the best thing that could have happened to Democrats here 333 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: they're sort of not losing a huge number of seats, 334 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: but hand the majority over to Republicans so they can 335 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: take the blame for things that happened over the next 336 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: two years and then set up Joe Biden and Biden 337 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: or whomever for a re election. The idea that the 338 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: Democrats could impossibly we don't know yet, not lose a 339 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: single Senate seat in this election cycle, you know, or 340 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: maybe just lose one or two is a stunning development. 341 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, Democrats have to be careful, but they're smirking 342 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. And even if they lose the Senate, 343 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: it's it's not as bad because they still have the 344 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: filibuster and of course that allows Joe Biden to have 345 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: a smoother pathway if he decides to run in twenty 346 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: four to say, you know, I I couldn't work with 347 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: the Republicans in the Senate. So it's it's positive all 348 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: around for Democrats. Blaming goes with the gavel. We'll continue 349 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: our conversation and looked at Georgia next with the panel. 350 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Thanks for being with us on Bloomberg 351 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: Sound On. I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. As we wait 352 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: for December six, we just don't know if it's going 353 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: to be the vote that decides control of the Senate 354 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: or potentially a little extra gravy for somebody here. Another vote, 355 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: another seat wouldn't hurt if you want to get something done, 356 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: particularly if you're trying to keep up with the other chamber. 357 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Raphael Warnock, boy, imagine this being told you've got another 358 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: month of this. You can feel it listening to him today, 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 1: the senator from Georgia here he is, Are you all 360 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: ready to fight? Are you ready to get this done? 361 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I need you to show up and vote because the 362 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: vote is a kind of prayer for the world we desire, 363 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: for ourselves and for our children's resell the panel, Rick 364 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Davis and Genie Schanzano, Bloomberg Politics contributors. Jennie, this is, 365 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, hitting the reset button like this is tough. 366 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: They've just lived through a grueling number of weeks here 367 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail. Have the final arguments been made 368 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: or do you still have to be out there campaigning 369 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: every day in this environment when it's just one race. 370 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: They're going to be out there campaigning, you know, And 371 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: obviously Warnock just did this last time around. He's going 372 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: to have to do it again, you know. Thankfully for him, 373 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: it's not the two months that they had last time. 374 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: They have shortened the window here because it was January 375 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: last time. This is now December. But it's kind of 376 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: ruined his Thanksgiving for sure. And he is going to 377 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: be happy out there fighting as his walker for every vote. 378 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a lot of money spent, but 379 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: of course it's going to depend a lot on Arizona, Nevada, 380 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: how much the party's invest We certainly got Lindsay Graham 381 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: at his back here. My goodness, uh Graham on Fox 382 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: last night he was talking to Sean Hannity about this, 383 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: became emotional and then it became a meme. But he's 384 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: been in Georgia a lot stumping for herschel Walker, certainly 385 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: before of midterm elections. That apparently he's gonna be hanging 386 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: around a while. And he's been hitting a similar note here, 387 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: which doesn't frankly sit well with everybody. Listen to Senator 388 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham. If herschel wins, he's gonna inspire people all 389 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: over Georgia of color to become Republicans, and I say 390 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: all over the United States. Herschel Walker is a nightmare 391 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: for liberals. He's an African American conservative. They have belittled him. 392 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: They have treated him like crap. His family stand by 393 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: Herschel tonight. If you can give, give, if you know 394 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: somebody that can give, ask him to do it. Is 395 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: he emotionally involved in this rick? You know, he gets emotional. 396 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: We've seen him, you know in Supreme Court, Uh, confirmation hearings, 397 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: get emotional. Uh. He's passionate about politics. He does believe 398 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean a lot of people think he's 399 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: you know, sort of contrived, but this is Yeah, this 400 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: is Lindsay Graham. He gets himself in the middle of 401 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: these things and gets very excited. Uh. We certainly had 402 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: the benefit of all his excitement, you know, when John 403 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: mcamb's running for president. But the bottom line on it 404 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: is is, I mean, like you know, he's got a 405 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: hard job, and that is to find a way to 406 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: get Republicans to go out again after these big races 407 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: just this last week and and cast another ballot at 408 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: which point when there's nothing else at stake but Herschel 409 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: Walker And arguably Herschel has done a good job of 410 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: mobilizing that base. But how much of that was from 411 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: Governor Kemp and the extraordinary election victory he got, and 412 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: how many hotels he had that helped herschel Walker. So 413 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: unfortunately for Lindsay, it's all about herschel now. And I 414 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: can see why Lindsay wants to try and make it 415 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: exciting for people, because up until this point in time, 416 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Republicans descritch and head going 417 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: where did this guy come from? Well, you know, Lindsay 418 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Graham has been getting a lot of talk on social 419 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: media since that appearance and frankly since his prior appearances 420 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: just just before uh the elections, Genie and and you know, look, 421 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: some are asking, is he aware that there's another black 422 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: candidate in this race, that there's a black reverend on 423 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: the other side of this conversation? Yeah, that's right, you know, 424 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: the way the way he makes it sound in that 425 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: clip from Sean Hannity, he has no idea about that, 426 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: but of course I don't know. It's kind of misleading, 427 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: it is, And of course I think what he would 428 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: probably say is he's talking about African American conservatives. Um, 429 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: I think he would stress that he sounds, you know, 430 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: sort of a trying like he's trying to be a 431 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: reverend himself out there, very emotional and sort of calling 432 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: people to arms, but to Rick's point, the question is 433 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: is it going to be enough? You know, will people 434 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: in Georgia get out? And I would say the same 435 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: thing for Warnock. Democrats have to be very careful here. 436 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes the enemy is when your party does better than 437 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: expected and people say, hey, we had a good time, 438 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: why do we have to go out again? So they're 439 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: really going to have to make the case on both 440 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: sides to get the base out again. It's asking a 441 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: lot of voters in Georgia. And to be fair, he 442 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: did say conservative. I don't misleading is not the right word. 443 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: Maybe tone deaf, Rick, I don't know some of the 444 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: criticism that Lindsey grahams geting on Twitter. Uh that that 445 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: he's he's simply not framing this appropriately with regard to 446 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: having a so called black conservative on the ballot. Yeah, look, 447 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: he's being blunt. And that's not the first time Lindsay 448 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: Graham was ever blunt. Uh. Look, I mean he he 449 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: shares uh duties in South Carolina with Tim Scott. You know, 450 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: a conservative African American who has done incredibly well and 451 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: is this inspiration to many African Americans who want to 452 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: be a Republican and want to know whether or not, 453 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: they'll be welcome. So he's seen firsthand how how much 454 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: that can benefit a party in South Carolina like it has. 455 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: And there's absolutely nothing wrong with saying, you know that 456 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: if if herschel Walker can get elected, um, you know, 457 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: he will be an inspiration to African American conservatives. The problem. 458 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: The problem is you want herschel Walker to be an 459 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: inspirational person before you say that you're going to do 460 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: it because he's an African American. Scott is an inspirational 461 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: person and he just happens to be freaking American. Well, 462 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: it's really very well put, Rick, and that's why I 463 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: had to throw this at you guys. I don't know 464 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: what the next leg is in this race, but there's 465 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: a lot of opo on both sides. Jennie, what are 466 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: we gonna learn about Raphael Warnock or you know from here, 467 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: guy can't even imagine herschel Walker. I know that the 468 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: idea that there can be more to come. We've heard 469 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: enough already. You know, we don't want to hear more, 470 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: but we absolutely might. And you know, Democrats response to 471 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: what Lindsay Graham is saying is they don't oppose herschel 472 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: Walker because of his race. Obviously, they oppose his conservative values, 473 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: his ideals, and the fact that he doesn't have the 474 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: character in their mind to serve as Senate. So there 475 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: is a response for them to make. But I do 476 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: fear that with all of the dirt out there on Walker, 477 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: and we know there is some potentially on Warnock, this 478 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: may get vicious, particularly again if the Senate comes down 479 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: to Georgia, which we may not know till early next week. 480 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: You keep something in your pocket for times like this. Rick, Yeah, 481 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: rabbit's foot. We'll see. They stay with us the best 482 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: panel in the business, Rick and Genie on Bloomberg Sound On, 483 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: as we turned to Donald Trump's war against his own party. 484 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew and Washington. This is Bloomberg. You're listening 485 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. 486 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: The headline on the terminal De Santis blowout, Biden's lifts 487 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: stir Trump fury ahead of twenty four. Mark Niquette and 488 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Fabian share the byline for Bloomberg and boy, this 489 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: has been something to watch. We talked last night about 490 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: the Trumpty Dumpty bit and the back and forth with 491 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: the Murdoch media. But boy, Donald Trump was just in 492 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: firing mode and still is late last night, early this 493 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: morning now aiming at Glenn Yuncan of all people, I mean, 494 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I could just point and click here and pick any 495 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: number of folks he's calling out, but this Glenn young Can. Uh. Well, 496 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: I won't call it a tweet, it's a truth. Right. 497 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: It's pretty remarkable remembering this is where Donald Trump was 498 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: the day before I believe the elections. He spoke with 499 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: News Nation just to sort of set the baseline for 500 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: everything that was about to happen. Listen, Well, I think 501 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: if they win, I should get all the credit, and 502 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: if they lose, I should not be blamed at all. Okay, 503 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: but it'll probably be just the opposite. When they went 504 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do very well. I'll probably be 505 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: given very little credit. Now. So of course he went 506 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: on this wild salvo one after the other against Rhonda 507 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Santis right around the time we were coming off the 508 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: are yesterday. So, like I said, last evening into this morning, 509 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: after he talked about the day that Rhondda Santis came 510 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: to him a shambles and revived his political career. He 511 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: now takes aim at the other Republican who could be 512 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: king or so we here Glenn Yuncan, of course right 513 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: he He wrote the recipe in Virginia with Donald Trump's support, 514 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: but not appearing with Donald Trump. Donald J. Trump writes 515 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: young Kin in parentheses. Now that's an interesting take. Sounds Chinese, 516 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: doesn't it? Young Kin in Virginia couldn't have one without me. 517 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: I endorsed him to the very big Trump rally for him, telephonically, 518 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: got Maggot a vote for him, or he couldn't have 519 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: come close to winning. But he knows that, admits it, 520 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: besides having a hard time with DEM's in Virginia. But 521 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: he'll get it done. We actually heard from Glenn Yunkin today. 522 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know if he'd respond to this, but you know, 523 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you have no choice. Reporters were surrounding him at 524 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: an unrelated event. Glenn Uncan, in reaction to being called 525 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: young Kin sounds Chinese, doesn't it? From Donald Trump? Here? 526 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: He is. First of all, I didn't see it, and 527 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: I have to I have to be honest. I've been 528 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: busy all morning. Um listen, I you you know me. 529 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I do. I do not call people names. I really 530 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: work hard to bring people together, and that's what we're working. 531 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: Only well, I'm saying, and I just that's not the 532 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: way I roll and not the way I behave, and 533 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: and I think again, this is a moment for us 534 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: to come together. Uh so that's not the way I roll, 535 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: but says he didn't see it, which is pretty amazing 536 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: because it's certainly made the rounds. Let's reassemble the panel, 537 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano or here Bloomberg Politics contributors. Uh, 538 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen, Rick, with the election, 539 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: is that the best move for glenn yncan to just 540 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: stay a hundred miles away from this? So are you 541 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: telling me he's not following Trump on true social I 542 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: mean his own that's a violation of decorum amongst Republicans, 543 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean around mon Governor young ken Um. Look, I mean, 544 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: you know he wants to avoid Donald Trump. He did 545 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: a really good job avoiding him during his own campaign. 546 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean to the point where you made is everyone 547 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: was thinking, hey, maybe this is the model. You just 548 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: don't have him come your state. Uh. There're probably a 549 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: lot of people, including you know, mement Oz and others 550 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: who wish they'd followed a similar pattern. Uh, you know, 551 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see how so many people, literally within 552 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the same week of the election are trying to run 553 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: for the back door within this Republican Party dominated by 554 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I mean, you know, it's it's it's it's 555 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: almost like the entire future of the Republican Party has 556 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: gone into reverse, where being a part of the Trump 557 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: operation is now all of a sudden, somehow a bad 558 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: thing for you to be if you're in the Republican Party. 559 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: And we've seen this before in previous elections, but uh, 560 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: it's it's taken an extra cycle to have it come 561 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: around to Donald Trump. I don't know if you saw 562 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: the shot against RHN de Santis or Glen you can here, Genie, 563 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've seen both. But is he just trying 564 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: to scare people away potentially days before he announces his run, 565 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: or is he really starting to feel like he might 566 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: not be the guy anymore? You know, i'mlike Governor, you 567 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: can I do follow truth social so I do you 568 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: know for you Joe Matthew, Yeah, so you don't have to. 569 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: So you know, he is playing the old Trump playbook 570 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: of trying to clear the field before he announces. Um, 571 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: he did it before in twenties fifteen, he's trying to 572 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: do it again. You know who I feel sorry is 573 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: for here is Tiffany Trump. Imagine that she is going 574 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: down to mar Lago for her wedding and her father 575 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: is literally out of control, angry down there. You wouldn't 576 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: want to be Tiffany Trump. They may have to have 577 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: an intervention at this point. And let's not forget when 578 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: he announces. You know you were talking to Major Garrett. 579 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: Looks like that announcements going forward. Apparently all kinds of 580 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: invites have gone out for that. You know. At the 581 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: same time, the Republican Governor's Association is meeting, and that's 582 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: where all the power in the party is. So the 583 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: fascinating juxtaposition of those two things, with the sanctimonious and 584 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: young Kin and all of these people there who have 585 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: real power, and him, you know, in Mara Lago announcing 586 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: he's going to do this again. It's quite going to 587 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: be quite a blitz screen. Although we probably won't get 588 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: into the Republican Governor's Association because I think that's going 589 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: to be private. Trump writes, Ron came to me in 590 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: desperate shape. In seventeen, he was politically dead, losing in 591 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: a landslide to a very good add commissioner at H. 592 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Putnam who was loaded up with cash and great poll numbers. 593 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff we used to hear. But 594 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: then he starts to invoke the FBI rick and suggests 595 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: that he may have somehow rigged the election for Rhonda Santis. 596 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Is that what we're to believe? That's certainly the way 597 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I took it, that he instructed the Justice Department to 598 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: go down there and like, you know, stop counting ballots 599 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: because you know the Santis was gonna lose if they 600 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: kept counting ballots, and and you know, look, you can't. 601 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: This is what's so ironic. He's it's just like when 602 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: he was on Twitter. We follow this stuff. We can't 603 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: help ourselves. It's like driving, you know, past a wreck. 604 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: You gotta look and and and the man's just nothing 605 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: but a big train wreck. Look, there's no indication, And 606 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I think the Just Department even said that there's no 607 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: indication that we had anybody go down there, at least 608 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: former Justice Department people. And I think that the other 609 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: guys have too much to do investigating Donald Trump right 610 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: now to actually respond to these things. But the bottom 611 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: line is, um, you know, we can't really look backwards 612 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 1: all the time and see Donald Trump in the rear 613 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: view mirror, right. I mean, like he's got to do 614 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: something that actually makes him relevant to the future. And 615 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: so far he spent two years talking about the pass. 616 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: If he's going to continue to talk about the pass, 617 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: this is the wind is gonna blow and he will 618 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: not be on the other side of the fence. Boy. 619 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: And so therefore, Rhonda Santis and Glenn Young, can you 620 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: just keep plowing forward, don't look left for right, keep 621 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: your hands on the wheel, and don't react to him, right, Jeannie, Yeah, 622 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: that that's what they're going to try to do. But 623 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: let's not forget people tried this before, you know, and 624 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: it didn't work so well. And that's what Donald Trump 625 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: is banking on. And the reality is is that this 626 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: is really up to Republican voters. It's not necessarily up 627 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: to the powers that be. They have tried to distance 628 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: themselves from Trump. They have tried to do what Rick said, 629 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, in urge people to look forward. It's up 630 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: to Republican voters. If they stick with him, he can 631 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: really really make a mess out of this primary as 632 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: they move into twenty four and that is going to 633 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: be something that Democrats have the ability to look sit 634 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: back and watch as they, you know, beat each other up. 635 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: And that's a pretty good position for Democrats to be in. 636 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: So are we believing this as a real announcement next 637 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: week Rick that he's not gonna, you know, kind of 638 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: duck out on the hurricane or do anything that Republicans 639 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: are urging him to do, which is not announced until 640 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 1: after the runoff in Georgia. Well, the lesson we've learned 641 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: with him and you can't really believe anything he does 642 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: or says until he actually does it or says it. So, Um, 643 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: he's teased this out for months. Um, we thought it 644 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: would maybe this summer. We thought it might be the 645 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: night before the election. I mean, there's all these kind 646 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: of scenarios. So I wouldn't put it past him on 647 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Tuesday to like break a toe nail and claim he's 648 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: got to go to the emergency room. I can't do 649 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: the announcement, I would say the real actions Jean, he says, 650 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: is in Orlando with the Republican governors member. These guys 651 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: all banded together to help out people like Kemp in 652 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: Florida or in Georgia when Donald Trump was going after him. 653 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: They like their own They're very powerful. They are going 654 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: to be the future of this party. I guarantee. Part 655 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: of the conversation you're having is what do we do 656 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump? Uh in an effort to try and 657 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: win a national election coming up in two years. That's 658 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: something else the Democrats, UH have to worry about that conversation, Jeanie. 659 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: Or should they worry about themselves for the next two years? 660 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: They should worry about themselves for the next two years. 661 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: You know, you take Donald Trump out of the equation. 662 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Republicans have some really strong governors in place, and we 663 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: saw it Tuesday night. Everybody from Kemp to Abbott, to 664 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: the Santis to the Wine who we don't talk about 665 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: enough and and Sonon knew who who you know it 666 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: does a masterful job in New Hampshire. So Democrats have 667 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: to worry about themselves. And I think that one of 668 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: the things we saw on Tuesday night, at least in 669 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: my mind, was that, you know, Biden does get the 670 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: credit for what happened, UH, because he is the president. 671 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: But it was more of a rejection of extremism, and 672 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily an embrace of democrats. So they're going 673 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: to have to continue to focus on addressing people's real problems, 674 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: starting with the economy and inflation. Rick and Jeannie, you 675 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: guys have been incredible this week and I can't thank 676 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: you enough here on Bloomberg Sound on on Balance of Power, 677 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: all of the political programs, including our election like coverage. 678 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine spending it with anyone else. On 679 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: this Veteran's Day, we leave you with sounds from Arlington 680 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: National Cemetery. It was a rainy morning here when everyone 681 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: gathered at the tomb of the Unknown, and we do 682 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: thank everyone who served this country on this Veteran's Day. 683 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: We'll see you back here next week. 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