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Speaker 1: greet eggs and wel come in the final Sunday of

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Speaker 1: this calendar year.

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Speaker 2: And boy it's a glorious one as the Bears are

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Speaker 2: the NFC North champions. All right, you knew I was

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Speaker 2: gonna start with that, but we get into it. It's

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday Week seventeen edition. Five games already in

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Speaker 2: the books. We'll recap and go backwards a little bit

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Speaker 2: in our history. Here. We got a full slate of games.

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Speaker 2: Still some playoff seating jockeying to be done. We've reached

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Speaker 2: a milestone and quarterback chaos and so many other things.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmon alongside me forty six years NFL films,

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Speaker 2: the NFL Matchup Show. You hear them weekly alongside Colin

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Speaker 2: Cowhard one pm Eastern for what Colin calls his best

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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minutes of the week. We get him

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Speaker 2: for two hours. It's great Coat Sale at great Coat

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Speaker 2: Cell where you find him on Twitter. Greg Another beautiful morning,

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. Hopefully it was glorious and you got outside

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Speaker 2: of the film study at least for a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: As we get ready for a big week seventeen.

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Speaker 3: You know the problem with Christmas for me, Mike. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, I think you've had a little too

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Speaker 3: much caffeine already, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's the lack of sleep. Yeah, I anticipation Bear. The

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Speaker 2: Bears are champs.

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Speaker 3: I know you're probably pretty excited about it. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the problem for me is that Christmas falls during the

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Speaker 3: football season. You know, I think that happens every year,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it just a little bit during the football season.

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Speaker 2: I think we should probably do something about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean it's you know, like on Thursday,

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Speaker 3: I worked and I left for me a little early.

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Speaker 3: I left at four o'clock in the afternoon. But you

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Speaker 3: know it's it's it's a work day during the football season.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing I can do about it.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it, right, you got you got to rally in,

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Speaker 2: just like I was telling folks, like, I'm if the

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Speaker 2: game's on, I'll show up. Like last week there was

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Speaker 2: a big holiday party that one of our colleagues throw

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not coming in unless the Bears

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Speaker 2: games out. Otherwise I'm standing on your porche on my

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Speaker 2: app So I'll be anti social out here, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to standing there and telling everybody to beat it while

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Speaker 2: I watch the end of this game. So one of

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Speaker 2: those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, it is right now the Bears are

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Speaker 3: and I know they have to play this week and

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Speaker 3: then there's obviously next week. What are they then, number

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Speaker 3: two seed now or the three seed.

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Speaker 2: As they currently sit. Let's pull up our handy dandy

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Speaker 2: this stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know, one of my guys on the Matchup show

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Speaker 3: here at Films, he does all that stuff, and then

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Speaker 3: he's gonna come in early tomorrow and we're gonna you know,

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Speaker 3: figure all that out so we can figure what games

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Speaker 3: to do in the Matchup Show next week because there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be so many games. You know. The thing is

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Speaker 3: but I know the AFC is set.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing. Bears currently sit in the

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Speaker 2: two seed. But it's a lot of the considerations, right

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Speaker 2: how bad it is Josh Allen's foot, If New England wins,

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Speaker 2: does does Buffalo look at it and make it a

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, you know, look, just talking about that,

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Speaker 3: all those details the way a lot of people do. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's the fun piece of it, right, is that for me,

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Speaker 2: What's this team all about? I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If they play well against us today, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like here's an example, like, what do the Chargers

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Speaker 3: Although it's funny, there's always an upset or two in

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Speaker 2: This one truly would be that as a two touchdown

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Speaker 3: But there's always one of those. You know, we know that.

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Speaker 3: But the point is, does you know so Denver, if

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Speaker 3: because I think again I don't study this, you know,

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Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to put that out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as it stands now, we can get into all

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Speaker 2: world are trying to figure out motivations. I know, over

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Speaker 2: the course of the week, Greg, there were a number

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Speaker 2: of articles out there as well about all the fun

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Speaker 2: This many catches for a couple hundred grand and all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's that as well. I mean obviously with

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Speaker 3: But you know that's the stuff. This stuff is so

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. Eventually, it should be like Friday

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Speaker 2: Night Lights where they're standing in the gas station parking

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's versus you and then you And by.

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Speaker 3: The way, one of the great shows of all time.

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Speaker 3: I think I've seen all seven seasons, like four times.

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Speaker 2: There's your other film study when there you go. Actually,

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Speaker 2: But first we hit the rewind button in a game

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Speaker 2: that was highly anticipated of a couple of backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: getting after it. Snoop Huntley and Malik Willis gave us

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Speaker 4: Huntley throws up third down and is complete to the

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Speaker 2: Touchdown, say Flowers.

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Speaker 2: Field Hundley two Flowers, Flowers trying to atone for last

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Speaker 2: week's gaff. I don't know if it was better or

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Speaker 2: We've traveled that road. But Hunley sixteen to twenty just

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Speaker 3: You know, that's crazy. I don't think people think about

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Speaker 3: I actually came in early today to watch that tape.

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Speaker 3: You know, he had sixteen for eighty two just on

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Speaker 3: watching that tape, Mike, two things really stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: Number One, their d line really got handled, and particularly

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Speaker 2: Just road grading over the course of the night, and

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Speaker 2: I mean we've watched this for years, Greg as the

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Speaker 2: that fourth quarter against New England is still just some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Henry now, it's crazy because Henry

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Speaker 3: the thirty six rushes last night. But you didn't get

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Speaker 3: I did not do on how you feel. You didn't

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Speaker 3: if the Steelers win this, I do know. If the

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Speaker 3: Steelers win, they win the division. That I do know.

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Speaker 3: So who knows what would happen next week with Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Henry, like you said, he's now in

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Speaker 3: the top ten. That's remarkable. I mean, he's a first

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Speaker 2: He's got to be five point one yards per carry,

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Speaker 3: On the overk Yeah, I know, he's now.

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Speaker 2: got a number of scenarios there to win the AFC

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Speaker 2: East by the win and a Bill's loss or tie

435
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Speaker 2: tie and a bill's loss whatever we get ties in.

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Speaker 3: Do I need to be taking note? Do I need

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Speaker 3: to take notes on this or what's going on now?

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give a little bit of specificity

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Speaker 2: to the earlier conversation, just for for everybody's edification, including

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Speaker 2: my own, because we found a handy dandy little grid

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Speaker 2: to it, and the Steelers can win the AFC North

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Speaker 2: with a win or a tie versus the Browns Ravens

443
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Speaker 2: still wishing, hoping, as we heard from Snoop Pundley and

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry before. But now it's time to hit the

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Speaker 2: rewind button to the other Saturday game and that gives

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Speaker 9: the end zone, seventy five yards, Welcome to LA.

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Speaker 2: of fire for Houston with a couple of big hits.

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Speaker 2: The big play early Stroud to Higgins and it was

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Speaker 2: like Connor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, Mike Tyson, if you weren't

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Speaker 2: in your seat, you missed it. You're still getting your snack.

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Speaker 3: You know, it made me happy. The second touchdown to

461
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Speaker 3: Jalen Knowle. I broke down that exact rout concept against

462
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Speaker 3: the same coverage in the matchup show this week, because

463
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Speaker 3: they did that earlier in the season against I believe

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, and I did that play in

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Speaker 3: the matchup show, so when I saw it, I knew

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Speaker 3: exactly what it was. And I was just sitting on

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Speaker 3: my couch and I just I had to smile because

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Speaker 3: you know that just I broke down the exact play.

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Speaker 2: Did you start writing a letter to Jesse Mintor saying,

470
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Speaker 2: you know you can get important things from what I do.

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Speaker 2: I broke it down for you, man. But yeah, just

472
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Speaker 2: a couple of huge plays and you're thinking, Wow, they're

473
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Speaker 2: winning going away, and then they just couldn't close the door.

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Speaker 2: They get some help by an unusual game special teams

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Speaker 2: for the Chargers with just atrocious at every level. They're

476
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Speaker 2: punting game with terrible dicker misses, an extra point and

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Speaker 2: forty yards, which he hadn't done all year first career.

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Speaker 2: That's less than a handful for him. Justin Herbert ends

479
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Speaker 2: up becoming their leading rusher on the night as he's

480
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Speaker 2: scrambling sacked five times, beating up some big game gainers

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Speaker 2: from Quinton Johnston. But those first two blows that Stroud

482
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Speaker 2: Stroud hit on Greg were enough to distance them, even

483
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Speaker 2: though some questionable coaching play calling down distance game situations

484
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Speaker 2: that left me scratching my head. It's like, you go,

485
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Speaker 2: you could go into the locker room nice and easy.

486
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Speaker 2: Instead let's give him an opportunity to push the ball

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Speaker 2: downfield interception and they get off on scale because of

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Speaker 2: the thirty two yard field goal miss. But just a

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Speaker 2: couple of situations like that's like, I know you're not

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Speaker 2: running the ball terribly effectively, but you know the clock

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Speaker 2: does run another minute off here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't usually get into that stuff, Mike, but

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Speaker 3: you know, as I was watching that game, and obviously

494
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Speaker 3: I've watched the Texans every week and even going back

495
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Speaker 3: for a couple of years with their defense, So I

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Speaker 3: start to think, are they one of those teams that's

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Speaker 3: really good enough on defense that it can truly carry them?

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Speaker 3: In other words, can that defense get them to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl even if they don't have a great offense

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Speaker 3: on a particular day, Because you know, Stroud is a

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Speaker 3: really good thrower of the football, but there's, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 3: there seems to be a little bit of an inconsistency

503
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Speaker 3: to his game. But he's a beautiful thrower and when

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Speaker 3: it's schemed up well, he can make great throws. But

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Speaker 3: you know, can they beat all these teams in the AFC?

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Speaker 3: And the AFC is kind of kind of strange. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure a lot of people feel that there's

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Speaker 3: that one team that, oh man, that team's really good.

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Speaker 3: So the Texans defense could really be a deciding factor

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Might actually be the best unit that we have in

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Speaker 2: terms of consistency, right, what we get in that front.

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Speaker 2: You've talked about the secondary a lot, oh yeah, program

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Speaker 2: over the course of the year, what they've been able

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Speaker 2: to get, and certainly here they were able to bring

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Speaker 2: it home, not without its anxious moments, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: With those quick strikes. I've got a couple of friends

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Speaker 2: that are Texans fans. Our colleague Dan Bayer had a

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Speaker 2: relative end that he took to the game. It's like

520
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Speaker 2: you got to your seats in time, right, because otherwise

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Speaker 2: you missed a couple of explosives early, and you missed

522
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Speaker 2: some of the best part of the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, you know, because of the focus

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Speaker 3: deservedly so on Hunter and Anderson, a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: you know, overlook the defensive tackle rotation, which is very,

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Speaker 3: very good, and their linebackers are really solid. We know

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Speaker 3: about the secondary. We know the corners. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: really like Kamari Lassiter. You know, he was a rookie

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Speaker 3: year ago. He's played really well this year. You could

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Speaker 3: argue he's one of the six or seven best corners

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Speaker 3: in the league. So it's it's a and Bullock. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've been on record, you know, because as I said,

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Speaker 3: I watched their tape among many many other teams, I

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Speaker 3: think Bullock this season has been the best post safety

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. So you know, it's a

536
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Speaker 3: really good defense. I guess they can technically still win

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Speaker 3: the division depending on what the Jaguars do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still love watching you highlight Lasster. Just the

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Speaker 2: physicality that he plays. It's like, it's all right, are

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Speaker 2: you gonna call it on me or not? Like it's

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Speaker 2: like the old Legion of Boom or what New England

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Speaker 2: used to do. It's like, all right, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: physically you and we're gonna have to figure out what

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Speaker 2: the rules of engagement are for.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's he in some ways is he's a

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Speaker 3: swagger guys. He's a tempo setter, and you don't think

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Speaker 3: about that with all the people they have on their defense.

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Speaker 3: He kind of reminds me of what Devin Witherspoon is

549
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Speaker 3: for the Seahawks. They're really good players just in terms

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Speaker 3: of their trades, but they're tempo setters. They're swagger guys.

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Speaker 3: Their attitude guys, and I think Lassiter is one of

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Speaker 3: those guys.

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Speaker 2: You ready to play a little trivia game?

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, here we go. We got with the the.

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Speaker 2: Win yesterday, Houston gets into the playoffs and Indianapolis is

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Speaker 2: officially eliminated. It's odd that the Charger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that I knew that part. I knew Okay.

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Speaker 2: The other part is that this has not happened that

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Speaker 2: a team started a season eight and two and missed

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Speaker 2: the playoffs since the nineteen ninety five Raiders. Wow, you

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Speaker 2: want to go venture at some of the skill position

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Speaker 2: leaders for that ninety five Raiders team.

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Speaker 3: The ninety five God that I should know the answer

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Speaker 3: to that, but I don't. The nineteen ninety five Raiders. Oh,

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Speaker 3: that's a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: Ready to have a little bit of fun. One guy

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Speaker 2: actually played for the Bears. He was one of the

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Speaker 2: original He can run, but had a cannon for an

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Speaker 2: arm that was just a bit inaccurate. He was the

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Speaker 2: backup for that squad.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, okay, So if he played for the Bears,

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Speaker 3: then I'm thinking Vince Evans.

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Speaker 2: That is right. Vince Evans was the backup, the leader,

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest mustaches we've ever seen on a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: One of the greatest musta. Wow. So he was the

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He was the starter. He was also a former Giant.

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Speaker 3: A former Giant. Oh, that's probably Jeff Hostetlwe.

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Speaker 2: You got it. The receivers, Tim Brown, Yeah, Tim, Tim

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Speaker 2: Brown's the chalk one in this. How about the running backs?

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Speaker 2: You had an eleven hundred yard nine touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Guy, you did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which this one surprised me. I had the backup

584
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Speaker 2: right with it with the bad injuries.

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Speaker 3: The backup Oh oh, oh god, I know it's not

586
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Speaker 3: Napoleon Coffin.

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Speaker 2: Is Napoleon Golfin?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, carries four hundred ninety yards. The leader Harvey Williams.

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Speaker 3: I oh he played with for the Chiefs as well.

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Speaker 3: He did, yep, I remember Harvey. Yeah, he was very upright.

592
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Speaker 3: He was tall and upright.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Finished his career with nearly four thousand rushing yard Yah,

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Speaker 2: had eleven hundred of them and nine scores that year.

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Speaker 3: So who else were the receivers besides Tim Brown pulling

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Speaker 3: up the in the Uh see, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm I'm I'm counting on you to tell

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Speaker 3: me and I'm just throwing out the when you give

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Speaker 3: me the info.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, I'm subject to the Wi FI considerations here

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Speaker 2: in the stud.

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Speaker 3: Would that be I'm trying to think the Five Raiders?

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Speaker 3: Maybe James Jet was he around then? Oh? That's good

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Speaker 3: he could run? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, wow, I mean that was one of those Al

606
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Speaker 2: Davis speed guys. Yeah, yes, yeah, about that. Yeah, all right,

607
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Speaker 2: As we go down our list of our receiving options,

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Speaker 2: we had, Williams had fifty four, Darryl Hobbs had thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: I would never have gets there, Eric.

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Speaker 2: Fenner, little rocket Ishmael was mixed in there. Jet did

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Speaker 2: have thirteen catches for one hundred and seventy nine yards.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, well, at least he was there. The other

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Speaker 3: guys I would never have guessed.

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Speaker 2: Never Hoobs and Fenner, I'm pretty well versed. How about

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Speaker 2: an Andrew Glover's sighting.

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Speaker 3: While we're at Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Going a little deep in the way back machine. Let's

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Speaker 2: get one more game in. Let's go back for Thursday,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of Denver. A little bow Nicks.

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Speaker 9: Next is rolling next, well, throw.

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Speaker 2: And it's put for the touchdown. But R J Harvey

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Speaker 2: Harvey on the score. That's al Michaels and Prime on

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Speaker 2: the call. There, as we saw the latest in when

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Speaker 2: the Oladocin becomes number fifty nine, Malik willis number sixty

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Speaker 2: in terms of our quarterbacks to start a game in

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Speaker 2: this twenty twenty five campaign. But for bow Knicks doing

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Speaker 2: it with his legs, doing with his arm once again,

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Speaker 2: Denver it's not always pretty, but they seem to find

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Speaker 2: themselves in the winners circle week after.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched that tape, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what to make of their pass game. I think

632
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Speaker 3: this was a specific pass game. I think this was

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Speaker 3: a Sean Payton thing because they really did not attack

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Speaker 3: at the intermediate or intermediate vertical levels in this game,

635
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Speaker 3: hardly at all. So that was clearly I think the

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Speaker 3: way Sean Payton wanted to play. Maybe he was concerned

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Speaker 3: about the blitz because with the way they ran their

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Speaker 3: pass offense, Steve Spagnolo did not blitz very much in

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Speaker 3: this game, and we know that he's very very good

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Speaker 3: at that and often does it at a relatively high percentage.

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Speaker 3: Because Nicks finished the game with twenty six completions Mike,

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Speaker 3: but only one hundred and eighty two yards. Only two

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Speaker 3: of his thirty eight pass attempts traveled more than twenty

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Speaker 3: eight yards from the line screaming, So I think that

645
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Speaker 3: was intentional. It was a very condensed passing game.

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Speaker 2: Keep them keep it in front, to keep it efficient

647
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Speaker 2: and keep the line moving, and I'll.

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Speaker 3: Give you a great example. So that's this is where

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Speaker 3: sometimes stats if you look at them, you go, that's

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Speaker 3: not very good. But they were very good on third down,

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Speaker 3: and Nicks was nine to thirteen on third down. Now,

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Speaker 3: we only gained one hundred and fifty yards on those

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Speaker 3: nine completions, but seven of those nine completions resulted in

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Speaker 3: first downs. That's the more important stat than the number

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Speaker 3: of yards. So you know, it was an odd game.

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Speaker 3: When I watched that tape, you know, I kept thinking, Okay,

657
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Speaker 3: are they going to throw the ball down the field?

658
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Speaker 3: And they just didn't. And obviously that winning touchdown to Harvey,

659
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Speaker 3: that was that was Do you know what the play

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Speaker 3: was on the winning touchdown?

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Speaker 2: By the way, what the play was?

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Speaker 3: What the play was? Hit me, I'm going to tell

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Speaker 3: you what the play was on the winning touchdown. The

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Speaker 3: winning touchdown was Spider two, Why Banana?

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Speaker 2: The old John Gruden line.

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Speaker 3: The old John Gruden. It was why Banana?

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Speaker 2: How about that? See now, now we're all that much

668
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Speaker 2: the better for it, and we'll go on doing our

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Speaker 2: best Gruden impersonations.

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Speaker 3: There you go on today. Because Harvey was the primary

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Speaker 3: read in the flat and but the safety Cook took

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Speaker 3: it away immediately, so they just had to keep going

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Speaker 3: and going, and Nick looked inside to Sutton on the

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Speaker 3: backside shallow, but that wasn't there, so we directed Harvey

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Speaker 3: to and cover. But it was. But the play call itself,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they call it that, but it

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Speaker 3: was spider too. Why Banana?

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Speaker 2: There you go. All things old are new again.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday. Mike harm and

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Speaker 2: Greg co Sell with you a couple more of the

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Speaker 2: Thursday games and rewind to get to as we get

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Speaker 2: ready for the rest of Week seventeen here in your

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Speaker 2: National Football League season. So much to discuss. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: We're only going to spend a minute on the last

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Speaker 2: two games because that's about what they're worth. We'll move

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Speaker 2: on to that as we continue at Greg go cellas

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Speaker 2: where you find and find me over at Swollen Down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Radio. I love the sounds of Bowie, but I'm

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Speaker 2: missing my holiday music. I'm not gonna lie. Mike Carmen

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Speaker 2: here in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Football Sunday, here in

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Speaker 2: week seventeen, alongside great co Sell. Hey, remember with the

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Speaker 2: Trading is one of your presets in the iHeart app,

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Speaker 2: so it'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

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Speaker 2: One of the concerts I failed to get to before

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Speaker 2: his passing. So still salty that that one left me.

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Speaker 3: I saw checked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple of opportunities in the Greater

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Speaker 2: Chicago land area, but once upon a time Mom didn't

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Speaker 2: want us traversing to the north side. It didn't break

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Speaker 2: that seal past State Street. You just didn't south side here,

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Speaker 2: north side there. Like the Jets and the Sharks never

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Speaker 2: between shell meets.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and here we are, all these years later. I

712
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Speaker 2: live in California, so I've traveled to a number of countries.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? Eventually you break the seal

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Speaker 2: and say, hey, there's some other stuff out there. All right, Quickly,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the other two games from Thanksgiving, and

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Speaker 2: then we'll our Thanksgiving Christmas Day, and then we'll launch

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Speaker 2: ourselves into the rest of Week seventeen as we get

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Speaker 2: to hour two, but I'd be remiss we didn't circle

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Speaker 2: back to the Max Brozmer world. Okay, he did a

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Speaker 2: handoff to Jordan Addison for that sixty five yard touchdown,

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Speaker 2: but it was about Brian Flores's defense. Yeah, absolutely taming

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Speaker 2: the Lions and sending them home.

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Speaker 3: You know what's crazy, Mike is last year, in the

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Speaker 3: two games that the Lions and Vikings played, obviously they're

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Speaker 3: in the same division. Last year, Gibbs in those two games,

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs had something like three hundred and seventy totally

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Speaker 3: yards and six touchdowns and the Lions won both those games.

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Speaker 3: This year, it just really seemed and again people are

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Speaker 3: going to say it's the Ben Johnson effect, and maybe

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Speaker 3: it is. You know, we're not there as they're going

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Speaker 3: through their game planning. It's always easy now to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's Ben Johnson and you know their game plan wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: You know, all that stuff's easy to say when a

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Speaker 3: team loses, and maybe it's true to some extent, but

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Speaker 3: it just seemed as if that Brian floor has just

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Speaker 3: had such a great feel with his and what he does.

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Speaker 3: It works against a lot of teams, it's really hard

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Speaker 3: because he lines up with a lot of pressure fronts.

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Speaker 3: He dictates protections, he drops people out, he forces backs

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Speaker 3: to have to stay in and protect. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: what he did in the first game against the Lions

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Speaker 3: a tremendous amount. He forced Gibbs to have to stay

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Speaker 3: in the backfield to be part of the protection, and

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Speaker 3: that's what you want. You don't want Gibbs as a receiver.

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Speaker 3: So he just really made it so difficult for the

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Speaker 3: Lions with their protections and what GoF was looking at.

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Speaker 2: It was just hard just to catches twenty three yards.

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Speaker 2: We'd seen him the prior weeks ten catches, seven catches,

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Speaker 2: eleven catches, but against the Vikings here absolute operations shut down.

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Speaker 2: And for fantasy owners, sorry, there was another one of

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Speaker 2: your binary code. It's been three zero threes there it

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Speaker 2: is big zero and he lost to fumble to boot. Meanwhile,

753
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff was under siege. He confused with the Steven

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Speaker 2: Sagall movie of the same name.

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Speaker 3: He was it was difficult, and I guess Sewell got hurt,

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Speaker 3: so it was it was a difficult situation and they

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Speaker 3: just really couldn't get any you know, that's a very

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Speaker 3: rhythmic offense, because GoF that's who he is. He's very,

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Speaker 3: very good as a rhythmic quarterback when he's protected and

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Speaker 3: he can hit that back foot, deliver the ball, work

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Speaker 3: the intermediate middle of the field, which he's as good

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Speaker 3: as any quarterback in the league. But they just couldn't

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Speaker 3: get to that with any kind of consistency.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed all the what if of isms that started

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Speaker 2: flowing over the last seventy two hours. What if we'd

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Speaker 2: never made that trade in cat Matthew Stafford. No, it's gone,

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Speaker 2: he's gone. It moved on. It's like the girlfriend, the boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: the whatever, you know, the fact that we all once

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Speaker 2: had a nice, luscious head of hair. It's gone. You know.

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Speaker 3: Gos's one of those guys. He's really kind of a

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Speaker 3: specific kind of quarterback, you know. But he's very good

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Speaker 3: at what he is. But obviously, because he's not a playmaker,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't give you that movement to mention. He needs

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Speaker 3: to be protected and when he's not protected, and of

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Speaker 3: course that's not a profound statement, Mike, you could say

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Speaker 3: that about theoretically any quarterback. But obviously, if he's not

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Speaker 3: well protected. He's not going to make plays outside of structure.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Let's get rewind to the final game off

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Speaker 2: our slate. This was the first one that got us

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Speaker 2: all going.

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00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 4: Pressed out under center, play action back to throw, right

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Speaker 4: side of the end zone, back of the end zone,

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Speaker 4: Ferguson in the right back the ends on.

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Speaker 2: Never mind fourth down.

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Speaker 3: They catched it in, pressed up to.

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Speaker 2: Ferguson only catch of the day. The other touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: was to Turpin an eighty six yarder, and they feasted

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Speaker 2: like kings, as they kept saying every time they busted

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Speaker 2: out those tomahawk steaks. On Netflix. Three hundred and seven yards,

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Speaker 2: two scores for Prescott on the day. On the other side,

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Speaker 2: Bill don't call me Jacory Crosskey Merritt was big with

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Speaker 2: one hundred and five yards and two touchdowns, including a

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Speaker 2: seventy two yard sprint that everybody noticed happened as soon

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Speaker 2: as they said, hey, welcome in Clinton portis Hey, let's

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Speaker 2: go to the commercial break. Clinton Bortis stay with us.

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Speaker 2: But for Dallas, I give him credit, right we found

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Speaker 2: a couple of other options. That was a great catch

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Speaker 2: by Ferguson. Malik Davis had one hundred and three yards

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Speaker 2: as Williams had to leave the game with an injury.

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Speaker 2: But Dallas keeps battling for all their issues and defensively

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Speaker 2: there are many so eber flus back on the marketplace,

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Speaker 2: but Jack Prescott still showing what he's all about.

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Speaker 3: You know. And the other thing too is I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure a lot of people know that George Pickens

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Speaker 3: right now has fourteen and twenty receiving yards, and it'll

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Speaker 3: be interesting to see if they sign him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you hear a lot of stories about him. I don't

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Speaker 3: get into that, but I know that it means something.

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Speaker 3: But he's had one heck of a season.

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Speaker 2: Four catches, seventy eight yards, and we've seen plenty of

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Speaker 2: those stories out of Pittsburgh. But you know, do you

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Speaker 2: franchise him for one year? Do you try to go

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Speaker 2: long term and see if you can stretch out that money.

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Speaker 2: That'll be what the Joneses will have to figure out

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Speaker 2: here this offseason. One more game remaining as we continue

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Speaker 2: we go into the remaining slate of our week seventeen

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Speaker 2: NFL schedule, there's so many big games on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Come on, in

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Speaker 1: set a spell hang out with us another hour here

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday, Mike Carmen Great co

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Speaker 1: sell here live from the tire Ac while the fire

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Speaker 1: Fox Smorts Radio Studios Tyrak had the play of the day.

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Speaker 2: We heard that a little bit earlier with the big

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Speaker 2: Higgins touchdown, part of a Isaac Lowincron is now at

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Speaker 2: the news desk here, Greg he's part of the Chargers broadcast,

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Speaker 2: and all he could do was shit his head. That's all.

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Speaker 2: That's all he did. He didn't say a word, He

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Speaker 2: just shook his head and then it was like a

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Speaker 2: hound dog kind of face.

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Speaker 3: It was a very I mean, obviously with those two

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Speaker 3: early long touchdowns, the game settled into being a certain

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Speaker 3: kind of game where the Chargers had to keep coming

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Speaker 3: back and they couldn't run the ball at all against

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Speaker 3: that defense. We spoke about this earlier. That defense. Is

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Speaker 3: it is that a defense? I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 3: here and say it's the two thousand Ravens of the

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Speaker 3: eighty five Bears, who I'm sure you know that defense

838
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Speaker 3: very well. Yeah, But is it a good enough defense

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Speaker 3: where you know they can they can literally shut down

840
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Speaker 3: anybody in the AFC, and I think that's a legitimate question.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely one of the fun stories swirling as we roll

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Speaker 2: through the end of the regular season and shaping up

843
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 2: to be a really chaotic playoff run because there's a

844
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Speaker 2: lot to like about each team, and then there's a

845
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Speaker 2: lot of giant Riddler like suits on other sides of

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Speaker 2: the equation, whether it be special teams or the offense

847
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: or in some cases we got a lot of offense

848
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: and not much defense defensive resistance as we've seen throughout

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Speaker 2: the year. So why don't we jump into that. Greg

850
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: at Greg co Sell where you find Greg on Twitter,

851
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: check him out, NFL Films, the NFL Matchup Show, and

852
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: he joins Colin Coward on the network here one o'clock

853
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: Eastern every Thursday, breaking down film fifteen to twenty minutes,

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Speaker 2: as Colin calls it and I shout it out every week.

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Speaker 2: In addition to his celebration cupcake and.

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Speaker 3: I had one yesterday? Did you had one yesterday? Of course,

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Speaker 3: I'm done. Nice to know that it was Saturday. I

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Speaker 3: was at Barnes and Noble. You know, that's my Saturday

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Speaker 3: for a while. Gotta do it.

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Speaker 2: What was the best booker magazine that you picked up and.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I actually I bought two books yesterday

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Speaker 3: because you know, when I when I go to the gym, see,

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Speaker 3: I ride the stationary bike. You know why, because I

864
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: can read. I don't be sure, Yeah, because your hands

865
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: are you know, it's not like the treadmill where your

866
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: whole body is moving and it's a motion thing. So

867
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: I ride the stationary bike from my aerobic exercise because

868
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: I can read. So that's when I read during the

869
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: certainly during the football season.

870
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Speaker 2: I dig that you got one that you're really excited

871
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: about there that you want to give it time.

872
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: Well, I got one by actually James Patterson book, but

873
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: not the the stuff that people are probably familiar with.

874
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: It's a little bit of an older one.

875
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

876
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: He's has so many different characters. So uh and then

877
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: what did I? Oh, then I bought James. Are you

878
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: familiar with James Lee Burke. He has a character named

879
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 3: Dave Robischow. They take place in New Iberia, Louisiana. It's

880
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: he's a terrific writer. James Lee Burke is one of

881
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: the absolute best sort of mystery fiction writers. It's all

882
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: it's it's literary, you know, He's one of those guys.

883
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 3: That's not just about the plot and and the storyline.

884
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: It's very literary.

885
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: I dig that. So I was going to find a

886
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: book to take on my flight later on today.

887
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: Well he has. His character is Dave Robichow. And yet

888
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: you almost have to go back to the beginning. The

889
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: first book in the series is called I Think the

890
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: Neon Rain, and it's worth starting there.

891
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: There you go, it's the great Go Sell book Club

892
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: with us on the Go Cupcake to boot Sports Radio.

893
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 3: And then I read about music. I read about music

894
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: when I'm sitting there. That's because I love reading about music.

895
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: I always have. I have no musical talent whatsoever, but

896
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: I love reading about it.

897
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: No, I do the same. Hey if there's another documentary

898
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: to watch, or a magazine article, or hey, here's all

899
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: the stuff you didn't know about this band. Yeah it's

900
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: a rabbit hole. I go down here.

901
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: I love don't you love reading about how songs come about?

902
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: I mean the genesis of songs and albums. I find

903
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: that stuff fascinating.

904
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how many of them were in the

905
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: seventies where they're all sitting in a room and then

906
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: someone says some random funny line. I was like, yeah,

907
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: he was just he passed out in the corner. It's like, wait, what.

908
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know we've probably talked about this, but

909
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: you know, so many of these artists are really intelligent.

910
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people, if they're younger, and

911
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: just the way it's been presented over the years, probably

912
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: think it's sex, drugs and rock and roll. And I'm

913
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: sure that was a major part of it. I'm not

914
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: saying it wasn't, but these guys are really really intelligent.

915
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Speaker 2: That's it. Lead you down that path the creative, get

916
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: that other side of the brain moving. Something we try

917
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: to do here each and every Sunday morning with you

918
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: here on Fox Football Sunday and coming up after our

919
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,839
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920
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921
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday morning. Count you down to all the

922
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Speaker 2: biggest games three hours right up until kickoff. That's right,

923
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Speaker 2: all the best play is up to the second injury

924
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925
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926
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Speaker 2: Right here, it's Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart app

927
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Speaker 2: now one of the big games today as I look

928
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: the rest of the slates that stand among among the rest,

929
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: and we'll start with the Sunday night football game resplendent

930
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: as the champions of the NFC North replete with resplendent,

931
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: glorious foam cheese graters on their head. The Chicago Bears,

932
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: they'll take on the forty nine ers later on. And

933
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: last week brock Party really was in his bag early.

934
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, brock Purty played very very well that offense, and

935
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: it's that's a classic case of an offense that is

936
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: so choreographed, you know. And as I was watching that game,

937
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: you know, against and obviously what Philip Rivers has done

938
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: just blows me away. Mike, I'm sure you feel the

939
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: same way. It's just remarkable. But just to sort of

940
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: put it in a way that maybe a lot of

941
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: people don't think about it, because I really studied the

942
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: quarterback position. I try to talk to as many people

943
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: as I can about it. I thought last week that

944
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: game was just a clear delinear of the contrast between

945
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: quarterback play, and by that, I mean you have Philip Rivers,

946
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: who is a pre snap master of the position. He

947
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: controls the game before the ball is snap. He did

948
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: that was when he was with the Chargers. I mean

949
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 3: when he was with the Chargers, I thought he was

950
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: just like Peyton Manning. Obviously he's not viewed at that

951
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: level because he never made a Super Bowl. But I'm

952
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: talking about stylistically how he played. He controlled the game

953
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: from the line of scrimmage, so he's a pre snap master.

954
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: Rock Purty, on the other hand, in a Kyle Shanahan offense,

955
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: which is based on what we call pure progression reads,

956
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: he is a post snap operator. So you saw two

957
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: different styles of quarterbacking. Both played at a pretty darn

958
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: high level, you know, in that game. But it's just

959
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: and we're moving away from the river style because quarterbacks nowadays,

960
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: from the time they start at nine or ten years old,

961
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: they're not really taught the position that way to control

962
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: the game at the line of scrimmage. They're kind of

963
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: taught what we call pure progression, where you really don't

964
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: have to know as much about the defense. You probably

965
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: want to know whether middle's open, middle close, whereas a

966
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: blitz alert, but beyond that the specifics of defense are

967
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 3: not as important.

968
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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things you know, also out of

969
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Speaker 2: the River's playbook was going and finding Winters after the

970
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: game to ask him, Yeah, about the play. I thought

971
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: that was one of the best pure little moments that

972
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: you've seen on a football field.

973
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Speaker 3: You know what I thought when I saw that play.

974
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: Believe it or not, I when I saw that play,

975
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Speaker 3: I actually thought that Rivers almost read it too fast,

976
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: that he went through his read too fast because he

977
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: knew that Winters was the flat defender into the boundary

978
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: in cover three, and he was starting to expand to

979
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: his responsibility. But he had eyes on Rivers, and Rivers

980
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: just I don't want to say assumed, but Rivers knew

981
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: the coverage and he knew that Winters was the flat

982
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 3: defender and had to get to the flat, so he

983
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: figured he'd throw that quick timing throw to Warren in

984
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 3: what he thought, based on the coverage was the underneath

985
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: void in the coverage. But Winters just did such a

986
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: great job. It was just one of you know, people said, well,

987
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: he baited him. I don't think he baited him. I

988
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: think Rivers and I could be wrong, but I think

989
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: Rivers just went through his read so fast that he

990
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: expected Winters to be expanding into the flat.

991
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Rivers looked at him and said, you got

992
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: that from earlier. He goes, yes, sir, I did. Yeah,

993
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: the fact that he said yes, sir, But like just

994
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 2: you know that that honest moment of eye you got

995
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: me and Rivers being in that coach mode where he

996
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: is in his career. I thought it was a really cool,

997
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: pure athletic.

998
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: It was great. But Rivers always played like that. Rivers

999
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: was always I mean, you know, being here in NFL films,

1000
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: obviously we wire players, so you know, all through the years,

1001
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 3: I get to see some wires, a lot of things

1002
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: that of course will never make the light of day, sure,

1003
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: just because you know we don't do that, you know,

1004
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: but I've seen Rivers just controls the game at the

1005
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. I can remember watching him with the

1006
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: Chargers with wires where he was just telling guys, you

1007
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: block him, you do this, you you run this route.

1008
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 3: You know, he comes to the line, he sees the defense,

1009
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: he makes adjustments. I guess the only I don't want

1010
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: to say the only, but the other quarterback, who obviously

1011
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: plays the same way, and of course he's an old

1012
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 3: school guy, would be Aaron Rodgers.

1013
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, we saw that last week, right, Yeah, Jalen Warren,

1014
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: you go over there and then run this route.

1015
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: No, I think it was Gainwell's touchdown games touchdown, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1016
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: you're right. Yeah. But I mean, you know, like I said,

1017
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are not brought up to play that way anymore.

1018
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 3: You know, Kurt Warner talks about that all the time.

1019
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: You know, he's he doesn't love the whole pure progression

1020
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 3: thing because he wants to feel like, hey, you see

1021
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: the defense, the defense is going to tell me what

1022
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: to do. You know, I don't want to come to

1023
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 3: the line and not have any feeling about the defense.

1024
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: But it's just different, you know, it's it's it's a

1025
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: different way to play.

1026
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because on the other side of this

1027
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: equation you got Purty the other zero point five percent.

1028
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: We watched the comeback, We talked about it and broke

1029
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: it down last week as the Bears came back on that.

1030
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: Yes, we did.

1031
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams throw to DJ Moore. They've now celebrated him

1032
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: with his own special sandwich and meal special at Portillo's.

1033
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: So if you can get to that. But Kurt Warner

1034
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: talks about Caleb Williams in that regard of hey, taking

1035
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: those shots down, feel fine in that space, et cetera.

1036
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: And the key to that to me was the use

1037
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: of personnel. I mean, that's one of those things that's

1038
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: off and overlook because that came at a thirteen personnel

1039
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: which they had used up to that point, and then

1040
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you get the safeties just cheating

1041
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: up just a little bit because it's a run personnel package,

1042
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: three tight ends and they're playing kind of a quarter's look,

1043
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: but the safeties just kept creeping up and creeping up,

1044
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: and you know, then you end up with more you know,

1045
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 3: running that route and there's no help over the top.

1046
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: But still unbelievable throw, I mean, just ridiculous.

1047
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we look at Caleb Williams on the year where

1048
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: we're at touchdown interceptions, the act total is down.

1049
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: That's the key.

1050
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: And in Chicago now, well, I mean we watch it

1051
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: week after week. I mean, how many yards are just

1052
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: given away?

1053
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: A great point and that's the key because teams have

1054
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: done studies Mike, where quarterbacks that get sacked a lot

1055
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: in college tend to get sacked a lot in the

1056
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 3: NFL that has not happened with Caleb Obviously a year

1057
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: ago he did, but this year those sack numbers are

1058
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: way way down. That may be the most important advancement

1059
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: in his development because we know we can throw it.

1060
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, we know he's super gifted. You know, I'm

1061
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 3: not saying anything profound there. We know he's got great

1062
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: movement ability and he can make plays outside of structure.

1063
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 3: But you know, there was a concern that he was

1064
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: just going to be one of those guys that would

1065
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: get sacked a lot, and that has not happened this year.

1066
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: To this point. Just twenty three sacks on the year

1067
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: against sixty eight a year ago. If he averages three

1068
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: hundred yards a game, he'll become the first Bears quarterback

1069
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 2: ever to eclipse four thousand yards in a season.

1070
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Speaker 3: We're sid luckman, when you need him, I.

1071
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: Tell yeah, it is the time that we finally get

1072
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: to just put him in the place of reverence as

1073
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: opposed to I guess he's kind of the these standards

1074
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: still all these years later, because little run ups with

1075
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: Eric Kramer for a minute.

1076
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Speaker 3: I'm just getting thoughts of Bob Avellini.

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00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: You know, oh now you're talking. I mean, we already

1078
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: referenced Vince Evans in.

1079
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Our one There you Go, There you go.

1080
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: Wow, let's get a little Mike Phipps in the old

1081
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: Purdue Mike.

1082
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: He was a great college quarterback.

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00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: He wasash about it. Used to go and watch a

1084
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: little of that up and down the highways because you know,

1085
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: college games on a Saturday. If folks had the day off,

1086
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: we could cajole.

1087
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: Jack out of the conversation.

1088
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: Either Tom Zach a legend. Let's go on to the

1089
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: super Bowl appearing Rex Grossman.

1090
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: There you go, two thousand and six.

1091
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: I believe it was, Well, that's it, and then they

1092
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: that was the rain.

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00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in Miami. I think that was that. Prince

1094
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: was the heck.

1095
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: Time show, Prince doing purple Rain in the rain.

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00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was working out. I was actually erecting our

1097
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: ISO camera at that game. So I had to be

1098
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: sitting out in the pouring rain for the whole game.

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00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: But you got that halftime show that will live with you.

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00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: I had. I had to go inside. I was so wet.

1101
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 3: I just had to go inside just for a little

1102
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean I was, I felt like I was. I

1103
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: was so wet. They gave us ponchos. But you know,

1104
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: with the pouring rain. After a little while, the ponchos.

1105
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: You know it doesn't it didn't matter.

1106
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: To steal from another classic rock artist. You were seeking

1107
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 2: shelter from the storm.

1108
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: Storm there you go there, yeah.

1109
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: As we go. But that that Bears team a lot

1110
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: like this year where they live and die by turnovers

1111
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: and big plays, a little bit of special teams mixed there.

1112
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: In last week, I was watching Cairo Santo's like he

1113
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 2: was golfing.

1114
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 3: They got the run games. You know, It's so funny.

1115
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: Run game and defense. As we start talking playoffs, and

1116
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: that's where we are right now, is everybody wants to

1117
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: talk about the quarterback. And that's fine. We know, we

1118
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: know you're not gonna win with a crappy quarterback, get that.

1119
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: But you know, run game and defense. That's why we've

1120
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: been talking about Houston the Bears. Obviously, Caleb Williams is

1121
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: looks like he's on his way to being a pretty

1122
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: special player. But their run game is real. You know this.

1123
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: You're a Bears guy.

1124
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: Then, been fantastic in that offensive line. Joe Tooney's now

1125
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: won a division title nine straight years every.

1126
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 3: Year he's been in the league. How he probably thinks

1127
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 3: that's just the way it is, you know.

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the harsh reality when it doesn't happen,

1129
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, taking a long cold walk on a on

1130
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: a distant shore somewhere, going.

1131
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 3: To what was wrong exactly, But you know, it's it's

1132
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 3: the run game stuff has become so so important, you know.

1133
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 3: I feel like the league's I don't want to say

1134
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: it's changed, but I almost feel like we're in a

1135
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: little bit of a cyclical development here where, you know,

1136
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: And I haven't looked at the quarterback yardage numbers. I'm

1137
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: sure there's still guys, you know, throwing for four thousand

1138
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: the whole, but I feel like it's not one of

1139
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: those like, hey, just tossed it around the yard kind

1140
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: of seasons. I feel like the run games really kind

1141
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: of made a return, and it sort of started a

1142
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way.

1143
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: That's just anecdotal based on tape study.

1144
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go back and next week we'll revisit it

1145
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: a little more completely in that regard. Right now, Prescott,

1146
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: Goff and Stafford, you're only guys to eclipse four thousand.

1147
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Drake may is right there, he's fifty three yards away,

1148
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: Bo Nix at thirty seven, ninety Herbert already and those

1149
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, the already in the barn Nick, right, Herbert

1150
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold needs to ninety seven to get to four thousand.

1151
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then so I mean, you're gonna have those

1152
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 3: guys doing that. But I just I don't. I don't know.

1153
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just you know, watching tape. I because it's funny.

1154
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 3: I don't look at stats until after I watch tae sure,

1155
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: because I don't like to be prejudiced by a stat

1156
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: when I when I put the tape on.

1157
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other part of it is, obviously for those guys,

1158
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: thank you for being able to answer the bell each

1159
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: and every Sunday.

1160
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: Well that's at sixteen, we're at.

1161
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 2: Sixty starting quarterbacks. Greg. I'll hammer on that because we'll

1162
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: see how many show up before it's done next week.

1163
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: But you know the fact that you're still able to

1164
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: play through a full slate, Herbert with the broken hand

1165
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: and so many myriad injuries, that that's the impressive part

1166
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: as much as the yardage.

1167
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: Well, it gets down to sacks too. I mean, you

1168
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: know Tom Brady always talks about sacks being a quarterback

1169
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: stat more than an old line stat. I mean, think

1170
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: about Stafford. You know he's and he's Stafford's not immobile,

1171
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: but obviously not a playmaker. But he's only been sacked

1172
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: nineteen times. You know that's that's really impressive.

1173
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Be smart, get rid of the ball. One thing that

1174
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, happily for all of us, has been good

1175
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: about doing as well to close the loop on that

1176
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: one fifty two and a half the total there. Chicago

1177
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: San Francisco Sunday Night football looks like it's going to

1178
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: be a nice clear night with justod five five degree win,

1179
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 2: five miles an hour, and.

1180
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: One final point before we move on. I think Christian McCaffrey.

1181
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 3: And I know people might look at the three point

1182
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: nine yards per carry and go, oh, it's not great,

1183
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: and it's not obviously just as a stat on a page,

1184
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure there's been a back in the

1185
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: league this year that gets the dirty, hard yards better

1186
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 3: than McCaffrey. He is such a tough, physical runner.

1187
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: What's going to be curious to watch the Bears defense,

1188
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: because they do give up yardage, they do let you

1189
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: move the football, they do give up points, but they'll

1190
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: have to take away can they bait. Can they find

1191
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: the turnover? Al Harrison his back unit against Brock Purdy today. Conversely,

1192
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, we talk about not taking sacks. Well, that's

1193
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: one thing we know the forty nine ers can't and

1194
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: don't do.

1195
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: No, they are at all, that's what they don't do. Yeah,

1196
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: that's an issue. They don't really rush the quarterback very well.

1197
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: Yet still playing for a number one seed when it's

1198
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: all said and done. A lot of rain across the

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: board on the Eastern seaboard as well, So be safe

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,600
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1201
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,080
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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,000
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1203
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,760
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1204
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. As we continue, we'll take our turn

1205
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: towards a couple of the other big games on the slate.

1206
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Buffalo, one of those two afternoon games. The other one,

1207
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: uh well, it's the battle for the basement. They might

1208
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: as well just flip a coin, but we'll talk about

1209
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
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1227
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: got the Giants and the Raiders. I'll give you thirty

1228
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: seconds to describe that one, Greg, and then we've got

1229
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: Philadelphia and Buffalo, which is prime time playing Philadelphia, getting

1230
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: back to more of Saquon Barkley. So part of me

1231
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: is and we wondered this allowed early on in the season,

1232
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: was all right, are they are they feeling things out?

1233
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: And then eventually let's get them up and carries. Let's

1234
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: start pushing the ball, because you also saw Tak Bigsby

1235
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: got out of the moth balls last week.

1236
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they rushed for two hundred and seven yards.

1237
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 3: But obviously what I'm about to say goes to last week,

1238
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: not the games have been played already from Week seventeen.

1239
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: So the last three games, Barkley has had the most

1240
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: rushes and the second most rushing yards in the NFL

1241
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: and the most ten plus yard runs. So last week,

1242
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,959
Speaker 3: and I know people will say the competition the last

1243
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: two weeks Raiders and Commanders wasn't high level, and certainly

1244
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 3: relative to the league it wasn't. But I thought last

1245
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: week watching that tape that the Eagles O line really

1246
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: had their best performance in the run game of the season.

1247
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean it just it looked they move people. I

1248
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: thought Barkley was decisive. I thought it was maybe one

1249
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 3: of the best combinations coordinations of Barkley and the old line.

1250
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: Barkley was patient, he had vision, he showed short airy explosiveness,

1251
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: he was confident, he was hitting the hole. And two

1252
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: things the Eagles did last week and have done at

1253
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: times throughout the season Mike, which I think is really

1254
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: important and I think they'll do it today is no

1255
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: huddle and empty formations. And the reason I say I

1256
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 3: think it's effect it would be effective today is because

1257
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's one of the best there is in terms

1258
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: of what we call late rotation, changing the picture grease

1259
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: snap to post snap. And when you go no huddle

1260
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: and certainly when you go empty formations and spread out,

1261
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: it's much more difficult for a defense to communicate and

1262
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: to do a lot of late rotation at the snap

1263
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: of the ball.

1264
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: For the Bills riding a four game winning streak five

1265
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: of their last six, but the year of living dangerously

1266
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: late fORCH is Cincinnati, New England. Even last week we

1267
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: were just talking about, you know, for fantasy playoff purposes,

1268
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: guys that you'd been riding and they'd been hot for

1269
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: you all year, Josh Allen, you probably got eliminated last

1270
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: week with the effort that he put up just one

1271
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty passing yards, still had one hundred and

1272
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: seventeen rushing from Cook in a narrow win against Cleveland,

1273
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: but with the foot injury, curious what happens against Philadelphia today?

1274
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 3: Well, he was. All we have is the fact that

1275
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: he was a full participant in practice on Friday, and

1276
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: they say he's good to go. But they're a running team,

1277
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: and there's a couple of reasons. So that number one Cook,

1278
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: by a wide margin, has the most first down rushes

1279
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: and the most first down yards of any back. So

1280
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: they're a running football team. When I say a wide margin,

1281
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: it's over thirty with the next back. The thing that

1282
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: is really hard, I can I can see myself, you know,

1283
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: with the combine at the JW Marriet talking to you know,

1284
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver coaches talking to me about having that boundary

1285
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: X receiver that can win one on one and the

1286
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Speaker 3: Bills just don't have that guy. So as good as

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: Alan is, and we all know he's great, that's not

1288
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: the point at all, but it's just so hard to

1289
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: have a consistent pass game when you don't have receivers

1290
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 3: that can win one on one on the outside. So

1291
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: it just becomes a difficult deal. It becomes a week

1292
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: to week proposition as to what your pass game can be.

1293
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 3: So it's it's hard. So you know, can they run

1294
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 3: the ball against and we're getting back to defense again.

1295
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 3: We spoke, you know about defense and run game. In

1296
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 3: some ways, that's what this game is. The Eagles, I believe,

1297
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: over the last six or seven weeks, have allowed lead

1298
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: the NFL and points allowed, so they're They're defense has

1299
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 3: really come on. Jalen Carter's back this week. I understand

1300
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: he feels better than he has all season long. Jordan

1301
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 3: Davis's has an unbelievable season as a run defender, so

1302
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: this will be intriguing. Can the Bills make some throws

1303
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 3: in the past game, you know when they need to.

1304
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: You know, when you don't have receivers who can one

1305
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 3: on one, it's a little harder.

1306
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: Just twelve completions. Last week, a little Shakir four catches

1307
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: thirty four yards was the leader in that narrow victory

1308
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: against Cleveland. Checking our weather report, I could do the

1309
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: whole thing.

1310
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: I think I'm supposed to rain for this game.

1311
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: It says definite rain forty one degrees. Yes, so my

1312
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: NFL weather.

1313
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,919
Speaker 3: And from what I gather, it's supposed to rain pretty

1314
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: hard too, so this game could be played in a downpour.

1315
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: There you go, let's get and you go hide again,

1316
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: seeking shelter from the storm. All right, plenty more to go,

1317
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: including Seattle Carolina. That's the next of the Marquee games.

1318
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: But first let's kick it over to the news desk

1319
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: with some of the early news and notes, and to

1320
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 2: give him a pat on the back saying it's not

1321
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: your fault. It's Isaac Lowercron.

1322
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: The silver lining and all this, Mike and Greg. At

1323
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 4: least it didn't happen during the playoffs. Yes, because that

1324
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 4: sort of game by the Chargers happened last year in

1325
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs against Houston.

1326
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm clinging to right now.

1327
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 4: And yes, we'll start with that, the Houston Texans beating

1328
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: the Chargers twenty to sixteen on Saturday, clinching a playoff spot,

1329
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: clinching the AFC West for the Denver Broncos. And a

1330
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: couple of notes on this result and the ramification. So

1331
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: Houston wins, it clinches the division title for Denver. After

1332
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: that happened, Denver Broncos linebacker Jonathan Cooper posted on social

1333
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 4: media and I quote, bleep the Chiefs bleep made bleep

1334
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 4: pansies unquote again that from Denver Broncos linebacker Jonathan Cooper

1335
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 4: after the chief streak of nine consecutive division titles was

1336
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 4: officially broken. The Texans meanwhile on an eight game winning

1337
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: streak that's the longest active winning streak in the league.

1338
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 4: In this game, the Chargers missed a field goal, an

1339
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 4: extra point, and had three punts under forty yards. As

1340
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 4: a result of that loss. With those factors, the Indianapolis

1341
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: Colts were eliminated from the playoffs, leading at Ricky Penny

1342
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: to post and I quote its twenty twenty five and

1343
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 4: Chargers kickers are still screwing Philip Rivers unquote.

1344
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of pictures of Nate Caty in

1345
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: my timeline, greg he was trending.

1346
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: Nate Cating was trending on social media during the game.

1347
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: But the story on Saturday night at lambeau Field was

1348
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. He ran for two hundred and sixteen yards

1349
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 4: with four touchdowns as the Ravens state alive with a

1350
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 4: forty one to twenty four victory over the Packers.

1351
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 5: I would just worry about being effective with any opportunity

1352
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 5: that I got on being a fish and in the

1353
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 5: run game, to give our sense a chance to get

1354
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 5: into drives. The little drives, ending points and run the

1355
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: ball physically, and you know, just focus on us dominating

1356
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and establish establishing the identity in

1357
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 5: the run game throughout the game. That was just my

1358
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 5: main focus. Whatever carries it was was going to be.

1359
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 5: I just wanted to go out there and make some happen.

1360
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: The victory Clint the NFC North for the Chicago Bears.

1361
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: Congratulations harmon Bears, And it also brought up this fact

1362
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 4: and kudos to NFL researcher Henry Gold for finding this gem.

1363
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 4: Last night, the Packers became the first team in the

1364
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 4: Super Bowl era to lose three games in a single

1365
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: season when they do not punt. They're zero and three

1366
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: this year in games where they don't punt. Believe it

1367
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 4: or don't. Finally, ESPN reports at San Francisco's forty nine

1368
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: ers tight end George Kittle highly unlikely to play on

1369
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 4: Sunday Night football against the Bears, but receiver Rookie Pierce

1370
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: is likely to play.

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: Guys, that's all I got there. You go add Isaac

1372
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: Lohencod where you find him. Hey, later on, we'll see

1373
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: if the Bears can actually make the forty nine Ers punt,

1374
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: something they haven't done in a month either, So you've

1375
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: got that going for you as well. Check out everything

1376
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 2: ILO's got Poppa. He's the voice of Angels CITYFC. All

1377
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: the Chargers work and nobody finds obscure. Random Twitter references

1378
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,720
Speaker 2: back into football games to make you think or to

1379
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: laugh or to shake your head about where we're at

1380
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: in society. All those things can be true, all right.

1381
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: Seattle seven point favorites on the road at Carolina. Carolina

1382
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: is still looking to clinch the NFC South. They can

1383
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: do so with a win and a Buccaneer's loss and tie.

1384
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 2: For the Seahawks. They can clinch the top seed a

1385
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: buy and the NFC West with a win, a Rams

1386
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: loss and last loss or tie and a forty nine

1387
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: Ers tie. Well, the forty nine ers tie probably the

1388
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: long shot there, but a lot riding on this game.

1389
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: We talk about Bryce Young, Dave Canalis, what they've been

1390
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: able to do with Ted Roa McMillan, that dual headed

1391
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 2: monster in the backfield. Meanwhile, Sam Darnold and the Seattle

1392
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 2: offense rolling along. Kenadeth Walker, we talked about him last

1393
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: week with what he was able to do, getting going

1394
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: with the big plays Greg but JSN the key in

1395
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: their passing game. But that defense really for McDonald's what

1396
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: makes it all go.

1397
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad you said that, and that seems

1398
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 3: to be our theme today, Mike, you know, talking about defense.

1399
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: But this is a very very good defense. They're sort

1400
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: of at the forefront. They didn't start it, but they're

1401
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: kind of at the forefront right now with the way

1402
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: they're playing of the big nickel where you play three

1403
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 3: safeties essentially as your base defense and your nickel defense,

1404
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: and they do play a lot of dime as well.

1405
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: But Nicki Minwari, the rookie who they drafted in the

1406
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: second round, and obviously Mike McDonald had Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore,

1407
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: they're stylistically similar. Their deployment within the context of the

1408
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 3: defense is similar, and Nicki Minori has been a key

1409
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 3: key factor for them. DeMarcus Lawrence the has found the

1410
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: fountain of youth. He's been a terrific player for them.

1411
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 3: Their d line is really really good. One of the

1412
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 3: things that's really interesting and I kind of really looked

1413
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: hard this week at the Panthers offense, you know, because

1414
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: I doubt it was on anybody's bingo card before the

1415
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 3: season that they could win that division. But you know,

1416
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: we spoke about empty formations a moment ago with the Eagles. Well,

1417
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 3: Bryce Young has the second most empty dropbacks of any

1418
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL, only a little behind Aaron Rodgers.

1419
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: And you know, so that that really struck me as

1420
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,919
Speaker 3: interesting because Young, you know, he's obviously a smaller quarterback,

1421
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 3: doesn't have a big arm, but empty forces you to

1422
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: play more within timing and rhythm and get the ball

1423
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 3: out because you only have five blockers, you can't be

1424
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 3: back there holding the ball. So you know, I think

1425
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: that's one reason they do it. And Dave Canalis, I think,

1426
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: does a really really good job with that offense. And

1427
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 3: they run the ball. They run the ball well, they've

1428
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,839
Speaker 3: got two backs and both backs are physical inside runners.

1429
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 2: As we look at the rest of the slate, we'll

1430
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: give the thirty seconds to the Giant and Raiders another time. Jacksonville,

1431
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Trevor Lawrence. You look at him over the last

1432
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 2: five weeks, he's been on fire with fifteen touchdown passes,

1433
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: also getting it done on the ground. He etn We

1434
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: talked about it last week. How about you see in

1435
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: ETN as a receiver, stepping up and sliding out Jacoby

1436
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: Myers as a blocker. He got rewarded just a couple

1437
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: of weeks after being traded there yeap with a big deal,

1438
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: but a big spot here, the obvious nod to Philip Rivers.

1439
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: But Jacksonville suddenly a team that folks has people's interest piqued.

1440
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lawrence has been playing extremely well. You can just

1441
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: see the decisiveness with which he's playing, and that's a

1442
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 3: function of the marriage between him and Liam Cohen, because

1443
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: when you see a quarterback, you know, we spoke about

1444
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 3: this a little with the Niners, how everything is beautifully choreographed,

1445
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: that perty can hit his back foot deliver the football.

1446
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 3: You're seeing that more and more with Lawrence. And the

1447
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: other thing, which is probably overlooked to some degree, is

1448
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: how important his legs are. The more you watch the

1449
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: Jaguars offense, the more you see that. I mean, in

1450
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 3: this six game winning streak, Lawrence has twenty eight runs

1451
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 3: both by design and scrambles, and eleven third down runs. Okay,

1452
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: and nine of those eleven have resulted in first down.

1453
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: So even though he's playing better than he ever has

1454
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 3: as a pocket player. His legs are an important factor.

1455
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: He's a very good athlete.

1456
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: Let's get one more game in before we finish up

1457
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 2: Arizona Cincinnati. Fifty three is the total. Expect some fireworks

1458
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett and that offense moving. But Jamar Chase says,

1459
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: I need a touchdown. I haven't had one since mid October,

1460
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: so that's minus one fifty, basically putting it out into

1461
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: the universe, and I think to make sure his quarterback

1462
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 2: hurt it. I need one, please.

1463
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: He'll get one. He'll get one today.

1464
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Arizona defense not putting up a lot of

1465
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: resistance there for Gannon these days.

1466
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: No, they don't have a ton of great personnel. I

1467
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: think Gannon's a terrific defensive coach. I think he's super smart,

1468
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 3: but at some point can scheme only so much, and

1469
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, at some point there are matchups and you

1470
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: have to have players, and they just don't have enough

1471
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 3: of them right now. It'll be interesting to see how

1472
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 3: ownership feels about him, because obviously this season didn't turn

1473
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 3: out the way they hoped. Of course, we spoke about

1474
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. That's really the big question. You know. The

1475
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 3: consensus is he's done playing there, but they owe them

1476
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: a lot of money, and you know how that goes.

1477
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes owners get involved in all that, and

1478
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 3: you know they don't want to just throw away money.

1479
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: So we'll see how the Murray situation plays out.

1480
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard the Russell Wilson Denver thing referenced in

1481
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 2: a number of times, like, yeah, not everything's created equal.

1482
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: As much as we're a copycat league. When it comes

1483
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:45,520
Speaker 2: to saying how many millions, most say no, including Cincinnati.

1484
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: I would be remiss if I didn't mention because we

1485
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: chronicled all of the quarterback gifts giving and exchanges that

1486
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: were there, little mini ATVs here and there whatever. Joe

1487
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 2: Burrow was giving fossils and Jacobyson that gave enough to

1488
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: his linemen that they interrupted.

1489
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: I saw that. I know that that was nice.

1490
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: Talk about a guy who knows how to play the

1491
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,440
Speaker 2: political game in a locker room. Good for you, Jacoby Brissett.

1492
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1493
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: Mean altruism to me. You know, his intentions are good,

1494
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: but you know, you get a little bit back to

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Speaker 2: knowing you guys are going to go up for you.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep. Well, Jacoby Brissett from everybody I've heard it's

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Speaker 3: supposed to be just a terrific human.

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Speaker 2: Being, just fantastic stuff. That game fifty three is your

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Speaker 2: over under, so expecting some fireworks there in your fantasy finales.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got a couple more games that will

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Speaker 2: do a quick whip around as we go through. The

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Speaker 2: dude abides that was on the sweater worn by one

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Speaker 2: quarterback as he gave out his holiday gifts to his lineman.

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Speaker 2: Who is it? What's that all about? What does it

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Speaker 2: mean for today's action? We'll take you next on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Very well, I don't know about that great co cell

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Speaker 3: wow A big deal. Well, you know, hey, I'm married

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Speaker 3: and I have two daughters not in my household.

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Speaker 2: I know the same kind of thing. And the dog

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Speaker 2: rates ahead of me too. But all of that to say,

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01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 2: we get to the final couple of games here on

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Speaker 2: the slate, I reference Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers and his

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Speaker 2: holiday holiday holiday sweater and gifts. Ye have little ATVs.

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Speaker 2: Thirty three and a half is the total for this game.

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Speaker 3: I think it's supposed to be pouring rain there too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's another.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's another one of those on the board.

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Speaker 3: Another one of those so run game which the Steelers

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 3: last week finally ran, but now they had two long runs.

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01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 3: You can't count on long runs every week. But still

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Speaker 3: they're a team that plays, you know, one of those teams.

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Speaker 3: They play out of twelve and thirteen personnel, two tight ends,

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Speaker 3: three tight ends. Kenneth Gainwell has become a major factor.

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 3: His versatility in terms of where we can line up

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Speaker 3: his receiving traits even John hus Smith. He lines up

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Speaker 3: in the backfield at times as a runner. So it'll

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Speaker 3: be interesting can the Steelers run the ball in this game?

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Speaker 3: Because it could be that kind of weather game. And

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Speaker 3: of course I'm sure everybody will still be focused on

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, who gets way too much conversation. He's a

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Speaker 3: rookie quarterback who's had some really good moments, some uneven moments,

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Speaker 3: things you would expect from a rookie quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 3: But he's Sudor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: In Djoko out for this one. Fannin's gonna give it

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Speaker 2: the go later on. Uh yeah, for Pittsburgh trying to

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01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: clinch the AFC North and send the Ravens packing other

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: games on the slate. I'd referenced it before, Giants Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to say about this game? No, okay, good?

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Speaker 2: I mean I had to give you an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 2: The Patriots and the Jets. Drake may still flating towards

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01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: the top of the heap. There are two touchdown favorites

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: in this one against Brady Cook and company. But trying

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Speaker 2: to again figure out what that identity is going forward,

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Speaker 2: Henderson looks like he'll be back to make.

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Speaker 3: Down a lot of receivers. Yeah, they are down a

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Speaker 3: lot of receivers. I's out and they put on I R.

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Speaker 2: Which is interesting because he was the guy celebrating the

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Speaker 2: victory side. Like did he get hurt there? I didn't,

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Speaker 2: But either way he goes to the I R.

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Speaker 3: May has had a really good season. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: we talk about Caleb Williams and no knock on Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams soever, but I think May, probably from week one on,

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Speaker 3: has been the more consistent player overall. Williams is probably

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Speaker 3: a little more spectacular and obviously just the way he

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Speaker 3: throws the ball and what he does outside of structure,

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Speaker 3: although make him do some of that as well. But

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Speaker 3: May has really strong pocket presence in a good way. Mike,

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Speaker 3: He's oblivious to the bodies around him and stay's firm

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Speaker 3: with his technique, his firm base, he delivers the ball.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's really really good in the pocket.

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Speaker 3: And Josh McDaniel's just like Ben Johnson. I love the

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Speaker 3: spacing of the route concepts and that really helps a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: As we look at the rest, we got three last

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Speaker 2: games one that may interest only me and shuck against Ward,

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Speaker 2: So we got that going for us. Momfield steps up

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Speaker 2: because it looks like Adam is going to be a

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Speaker 2: no go as the Rounds try to roll against Atlanta

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Speaker 2: on Monday Night football.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's that thirteenth personnel. Last week fifty four snaps

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Speaker 3: of it. They play with three tight ends and now

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Speaker 3: with Adam out, Nikoua has played a lot more as

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Speaker 3: the single receiver and been very productive in that thirteen

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Speaker 3: personnel package. His numbers the last three weeks, I don't

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Speaker 3: have them right in front of me, but they are absurd.

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Speaker 3: So Nkos He's now in the conversation, is one of

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Speaker 3: the best receivers in the league because of the way

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Speaker 3: he's being deployed. He's now winning some one on one

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Speaker 3: matchups on the outside, which is what you have to

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Speaker 3: do to be in the conversation to be one of

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01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: the best receivers in the league. So he's continuing to

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 3: grow as a receiver, and his production has been off

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Speaker 3: the charts.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight targets, are twenty eight catches, thirty eight targets

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Speaker 2: and nearly what is that, nearly six hundred receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: That's just in the last three games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa Bay Miami, the last game on the board,

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Speaker 2: Tampa trying to keep things a lot Bucky Irving. I

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01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 2: really thought he'd be in the passing game a bit more.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to say about Tampa's offense. Baker's

1604
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 3: not been very good over the last couple of months.

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01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: He's missed some clean throws, critical clean throws just with

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Speaker 3: port ball placement. And he played so well early in

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Speaker 3: the season. They're a tough offense for me to figure

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Speaker 3: out right now, going.

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Speaker 2: Up against quinn Ewers. Finishing off this one today again,

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Speaker 2: sixty quarterbacks have now started a game in your National

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Speaker 2: Football League season. We'll see what the standings hold after today.

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Speaker 2: A lot of action activity. Good luck in your fantasy

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Speaker 2: title games. Greg, another fast great two hours.

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Speaker 3: Coming man a week. Yeah, it's always fine. We're getting

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Speaker 3: there too soon, we'll be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Celebration cupcakes for everyone. Happy New Year. Countdown to kick

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Speaker 2: Off presented by bet MGM coming up next. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: being with us, thanks for being with the family, and

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Speaker 2: thanks for our guys