00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guess to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to be empty, and I said, no guests, your. 00:00:28 Speaker 3: Presences, presents, and I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 4: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. I hope you're doing all right. I hope you're doing well. I got hacked on Instagram recently, and I just feel like the world needs to know. I've received a message from a friend that said she had done some fun things with my pictures, and I clicked the link and realized immediately that she hadn't done anything fun with my pictures. It wasn't her that had contacted me. So if you have a friend that tells you they've done something fun with your pictures, be wary. They may not have done something fun with your pictures anyway. All that aside, who cares, Let's move on. I want to talk to you about our guest. We have none other than Lacey Moseley, the scam goddess herself. Lacey. Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:40 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so sorry to hear about your. 00:01:43 Speaker 5: Your scam basically that I did get to you. 00:01:46 Speaker 4: Yes, I did get scammed. I mean I was able to turn it around in time, but I fell for it. I don't know. I don't think I've ever fallen from one of these things where you like it should have been a little obvious. Spread is out there making a collage of photos for what was I expecting it to be, like, Oh, she's reaching out through Instagram to show me she made a slideshow of garbage. It's very odd, but uh, but it's. 00:02:14 Speaker 5: The perfect scam because it's Instagram. Like everyone's like photos of me. That's why I'm here mostly like. 00:02:20 Speaker 4: People are using them and now I'm going to see them in action. So I guess it is a good, uh smart scam. Fortunately I had, you know, various password things on or whatever. But do you have you gotten hacked like that before. 00:02:36 Speaker 2: I've gotten lot. 00:02:37 Speaker 5: I'm currently still locked out of the scam Goddess podcast, Instagram and Lot. 00:02:42 Speaker 2: I can't get in. 00:02:43 Speaker 5: I contacted someone at Instagram and then I sent them information and they never emailed me back, and then I just don't know what to do. I've done everything on the FAQ like it's so bad. Yeah, i'ven't locked out for like two months. 00:02:56 Speaker 4: How did you get locked out? 00:02:59 Speaker 2: I bought an phone? 00:03:00 Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, so I've been locked out for since the pandemic started. Actually, I bought a new phone, and for some reason, now all the passwords to my Instagram take me to my main account, not even though I'm putting in a different email, even though I'm putting in a different password, it's still taking me to the same account. 00:03:17 Speaker 4: So, yeah, is the person who's hacked your account posting anything or is it just now dormant? No, that's wild. That's crazy. And the weird thing about like Instagram or YouTube or any of these companies is there's like that I think we're missing from before. Is there's no customer service department. No one cares about it. 00:03:37 Speaker 5: Crazy, Like I get it, it's like a free app, but you are monetizing it, Like, come on, now, you want all my information. You asked me to take a picture of my butthole to even get an account, and now you're like, well, we can't help you. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: We won't talk to you, don't email us, don't call us. 00:03:53 Speaker 4: Oh that is crazy. Do you have any hope of getting it back? Or is it just it's over. 00:03:57 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm gonna do. 00:03:59 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going to try some more when I have some free time, and then if it doesn't work, I'm just gonna have to redirect people to a new account. But I'm gonna need Instagram to delete that account, so we'll see. 00:04:08 Speaker 4: The return of scam Goddess. Scam goddess right eight. 00:04:12 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm gonna have to get on Twitter. But I'm tired of getting on Twitter to complain about brands. I feel like it's becoming too much of my brand, Like I'm becoming a Karen. Every week I have my blonde wig on and I swoop my banks to the side and I start tweeting angrily at some company and it works. But I'm also like my followers are probably like bitch every week. 00:04:30 Speaker 4: Like how many problems do you actually have with these companies? Yeah, I've only ever used the power of Twitter complaining once when I bought a dining room table and I had two separate people fallow through the chairs that they had given me. So it was so I was like I was finally I got on at seven am, tweeted at the company, and by like eight o'clock, they had replaced, they had sent out a new table. But this I want to name the company, but I also don't want I hate the company so much we're not even going to talk about them. But this was after like probably three weeks of trying every other venue and they don't respond at all. Then you get on Twitter and it's immediately like, oh, we're going to solve that. 00:05:14 Speaker 5: We'll bring it right. So wait, was it first time the chair broke? It was at me, being like, you broke my chair to your. 00:05:22 Speaker 4: Guest the first time. Well, both people who threw fell through the chairs were over six feet tall, so and I'm like five six so I can essentially sit on any chair without any breaking. So I just assumed, well, maybe these chairs aren't, you know, for larger people. With the first person, but then by the time that the second person fell through, it was like, Okay, maybe these are just garbage and I'm not going to let somebody sue me over the dining room table. I'm going to go to the company and complain. And then I got the replacement and it was also garbage, but it held together long enough. 00:05:59 Speaker 5: If I was the first fall I would be mad at you. Bridger, I would be mad at you for not assuming that it was the chair in the first place. Like, no, it's just you. You broke the chair because you're so large. 00:06:09 Speaker 4: Sorry, what nature gave you has destroyed my furniture. 00:06:14 Speaker 5: In fact, pay me for the chair because you brought your body over here and destroyed my property. 00:06:19 Speaker 4: Like this is slightly coming from a small person, always dealing with big problems with the world. So when I see somebody who's over six feet tall, I'm like, well, you know what You've gotten everything else in life. You can fall through a chair occasional, like not my problem. Be careful around my dining room chairs. I don't know. 00:06:40 Speaker 5: Oh, I've been using it since I guess since twenty ten, so like ten years I've been complaining on Twitter. 00:06:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she says that I've. 00:06:50 Speaker 5: Been caring on Twitter since twenty down. The first time it was for Sears because I was in college and I was living at this apartment with no ac and then and it was so hot, and so I got a c like I bought one that you could install. Yeah, and then by the time it got to my apartment, it was like cool. And Pittsburgh is where I went to college, so like it like pretty much stays pretty cool around the years. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even fucking eat this thing. And it was three hundred dollars. You know, I was in college. 00:07:17 Speaker 5: That's broke, right, So I tried to return it and no one would come pick it up, and then when they did pick it up, they took months to. 00:07:24 Speaker 2: Give me my money back. 00:07:25 Speaker 5: So I got on Twitter and I was like, Sears is robbing little black girls in college? 00:07:31 Speaker 4: For you? 00:07:34 Speaker 5: I serious, for sure did no I was black, but I was like, Seiars out here robbing the black community who's just trying to get an education, and this is wrong. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: And then they came right over fixed it, sent the money. 00:07:44 Speaker 4: It's incredible. Well, I mean, god, bless serious for being so tech savvy. You would not expect that company to be on Twitter in twenty ten. 00:07:52 Speaker 2: Right, but they were. And I think that's when brands first jumped on. 00:07:55 Speaker 4: And I'm like, ooh, and now you know what's happening with Sirias these days? I feel like that company they're. 00:08:02 Speaker 2: Out of business. I think they yeah, I look at they're doing business. 00:08:08 Speaker 4: They what it's kmart as well. I feel like they were one company. 00:08:12 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think camart Baby as well. But I specifically remember being in Savannah while shooting and there was a Sears going out of business, and I went in there because it was like everything was like ninety percent off, including like the real gold jewelry. So I was just like you pillaging. Yeah, I got this really beautiful gold necklace. Like I was just in there like yeah, yeah, like picking over this carcass, like yeah, sorry, y'all los y'all jobs, let me see that one. This is the worst capitalist. There's like people crying in the corner. 00:08:42 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, cast go buy you. 00:08:44 Speaker 5: I need that sweater. I even want a Seer yours sweater. I was just like, oh it's cheap. 00:08:51 Speaker 4: Have you worn the Seers sweater? 00:08:53 Speaker 5: No? 00:08:53 Speaker 2: I lost it. 00:08:54 Speaker 5: I don't even know if I brought it back to I sound like a horrible person, you know, if I brut it back. 00:09:00 Speaker 4: So yeah, speaking is a former retail employee. I mean, I guess you know, if my company, one of the various horrible companies I've worked for, if it went out of business, I would of course be distressed about losing the job, but I think at the same time it would be bittersweet because I'd be like, thank god, you're this terrible thing is closing down. Let's burn it to the ground. 00:09:21 Speaker 5: Right. But I worked retail too, and it's a nightmare. 00:09:25 Speaker 4: Where have you worked? 00:09:27 Speaker 5: I worked at Arapostawn Beautiful, which was like the bootleg Hollister and Abercrombie. 00:09:35 Speaker 4: It's like, so Hollister like an old navy, old Navy had a baby together. 00:09:41 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Like, that's the clothing quality. And they made you buy the clothes because they wanted you to wear the clothes start. No, no, no, So they gave you a discount, but they made you buy the clothes. And I was like, I have a part time employee in school, why do I have to buy the Like, give me the clothes. If you want me to wear. 00:09:57 Speaker 4: The clothes this stuff, put it on me. I'm not paying for this crab, right. 00:10:01 Speaker 5: You guys get all these returns from online purchase to just give it to us and we'll wash it and we'll wear the craft. 00:10:07 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:10:07 Speaker 5: And they had a weird pricing system. I have a marketing degree, so I was familiar with the pricing system, but it was just still weird to me. So they priced like they were Abercrombie, but there was always a sale, so it was like always it was always like, oh, we got forty percent off of this ever past day, and I was like, no, this was always the MSRP. 00:10:24 Speaker 2: There's always the price. 00:10:26 Speaker 4: It was always garbage, and you were just say there was a fake price made up at some point, and yeah, if there's always a sale, there's never a sale. Aero post out. That's exactly you know, everyone just as Yeah. 00:10:38 Speaker 5: I worked at white House Black Market, which I didn't realize they like didn't like me, so. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: I never really got any ships. 00:10:47 Speaker 5: And I think it was because like I was walking to work and like it's like supposed to be like like fake sansy, like you know, like everyone's like. 00:10:55 Speaker 2: Kind of like in a we're going to work, and I would. 00:11:00 Speaker 5: I only had like a couple things from the store that I was like piecing together forever shift. So I just didn't look as nice as everybody. And I remember I tried to transfer when I was moving to New York City and they're like, oh, yeah, we can't send you to another store. 00:11:16 Speaker 4: You could barely make it here. You're not going to make it at the white House Black Market. Is that what it's called white house black market. 00:11:23 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:11:25 Speaker 5: What is it a black house white No, it's a white house black market. 00:11:28 Speaker 4: Black white house market? 00:11:30 Speaker 1: Is uh? 00:11:31 Speaker 4: Is all of their clothes just black or white for the most part. 00:11:35 Speaker 5: Sometimes they'll have like a cerulean or red or like the open pops of color. 00:11:40 Speaker 2: They have other. 00:11:41 Speaker 4: Colors, but most of things add to your main black and white clothing. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:11:46 Speaker 4: Interesting, And you totally failed there, you were I did make it big with them. 00:11:52 Speaker 5: I was not successful and I and I didn't realize. I was not a very aware person, I guess at that age. But like nobody wanted me to work there. I never really got any shifts, and like everyone was nice enough, but it was like, you don't belong here. 00:12:07 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. There's nothing worse than being at a horrible retail job that you don't get along with the people. Anyway, that name and that name is so confusing to me. A white house black Market, I don't know that I'm into it, but I'm not going to be shopping there, so it's not a big deal. And were you working in the mall? 00:12:24 Speaker 5: No, I was working in this little complex in Pittsburgh, which is also fascinating. 00:12:30 Speaker 4: Was it kind of an outdoorsy mall sort of situation. 00:12:34 Speaker 2: Yes, where there was like a movie theater. 00:12:36 Speaker 5: It was like the Americana, but if the Americana had no money and no trolley, and no trolley and definitely no fountain and not a lot of customers. 00:12:49 Speaker 4: I refuse to shop at a mall that doesn't have a trolley operating at all times. It's like, right, how will I get around? I'm not walking through your mall. I'm catching the trolley. I'm going to go four hundred feet and go to my next store. 00:13:03 Speaker 2: Very American. 00:13:04 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, that's a whole thing. I don't know, Lacy. So yesterday I of course was driving through your neighborhood and pulled my car over and got you on the phone and we you know, we've been in touch over email and this sort of thing for you to be on the podcast. The podcast is called I said no gifts, and so I was outside your apartment and I figured i'd give you a call and just see what you were up to. You came down and you gave me something. 00:13:37 Speaker 5: Yeah, I ambushed you. I'm not sorry. 00:13:42 Speaker 4: Well, you know, you do your own thing. This world is without rules at this point. But now I'm sitting here in my kitchen and I've got a bag here. It says happy birthday to one of my faves. My birthday's not till October, and to one of my faves we just recently met. So I feel like you're coming on a little strong here, but it's a gift for me. 00:14:09 Speaker 2: Yes, it is for you, and so is the bag. 00:14:12 Speaker 4: Wow, okay, I. 00:14:13 Speaker 2: Was thinking about October. I was thinking about your birthday. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: You're looking forward to the future. And yes, Faith, okay, thank you. You know again, coming on a little strong, but we're just gonna keep powering through it. That's all you can do in these situations. Should I open it? Absolutely, Faith, Okay, let me open. We've got some beautiful pink tissue paper here. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: Yes, ASMR. 00:14:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, you've got to get the crinkle. If you don't have a crinkle, you're not opening a gift as far as I'm concerned, What, Lacy, what have you given me here? It's see I'm just going to say right out this is I'm really been blindsided here with an American flag. I've got a full size American flag you've. 00:15:05 Speaker 6: Given with the tag on it. You see the tag with the tag from that's fresh. This is a okay. So this is an American flag made by Momentum Brands in China. So this is a really authentic American experience. And it's thirty five by fifty nine inches. This thing is enormous. And it also says warning, this is not a toy. So that's just some general information about this. I don't know how this could become a danger if used as a toy. I don't know why you would put a warning on a piece of fabric. This is not a toy. Do not swallow the American flag, Lacy, what's going on here? You got me an American flag? What's the situation I need? There are so many things surrounding the American flag. We've got to talk about this and what's the deal. 00:15:53 Speaker 5: So one, I definitely didn't give it to you because I don't want it anymore. 00:15:57 Speaker 2: And I want to make that clear. 00:16:00 Speaker 5: I just want to put that out there so we're on the same page. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: The American flag is a little weird for me right now. 00:16:09 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was born on the fourth of July. 00:16:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we celebrated a birthday. 00:16:16 Speaker 5: Yes I did, thank you, Yeah, Sae faves. Now, now, reciprocity. I knew you would come around. It only took three minutes. 00:16:29 Speaker 4: Fourth of July. 00:16:31 Speaker 5: And so I always I always thought that all the fireworks and everything were for me. 00:16:36 Speaker 2: I kind of grew up where the fourth of July. 00:16:38 Speaker 5: Would be a family reunion, so there would always be a huge gathering from Texas. 00:16:45 Speaker 2: So we would be in Kemp, Texas. 00:16:47 Speaker 5: And Camp Texas is like this tiny, small little town oddly enough, like it's close to this place called Tarrell. And I was born in Tarol Hospital and Jamie Fox was also born in Taryl. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just us. 00:17:01 Speaker 5: They don't know about me yet Special Hospital, right, I don't know if it's still there, Oh wow. But yeah, So I always thought the fireworks were for me, and we would my uncle would take us to this bridge and let us shoot off fireworks like illegal explosives, like our artillery shells and like all like we did our own like professional fireworks show. And whenever he would take us down there, he would suck all the fun out of it because he would be like, oh, my nose is so itchy. 00:17:30 Speaker 2: He would be like, all right, kes, now, y'all know that y'all. 00:17:33 Speaker 5: Cousin drown in this poem right here, and then he'd be like, and your other cousin jumped in and try to save him, and he drowned too. 00:17:40 Speaker 2: And we were like, why are you telling us this? And he would tell us every year. We were like eight, We're like, okay, we get it. 00:17:45 Speaker 4: You haven't he like the light fireworks? 00:17:48 Speaker 5: Right? We keep going back here? And then he would be like making us like he did everything. He's was in the military, so everything had to be so like professional, and like he'd like, no, stand here now standing. 00:18:01 Speaker 2: Can't we just burn things? Like we just want to burn things. 00:18:05 Speaker 4: These are illegal fireworks, by the way, we're breaking the law with these. Why do we have to stand in place right like professionals? And then when he would leave, we would I had basically my family owned all this land on this big hill, so all my aunts lived on the hill and like my cousins and everyone my grandma, so my cousins across the street were like the Bay based kids. And so after my uncle would leave, we would get fireworks and we would throw them at each other. Have you ever been injured by a firework? 00:18:35 Speaker 2: Yes? I have. 00:18:37 Speaker 5: I have a burn on my ankle from an apple spinner it like spins across the street when you light it and it burned me. 00:18:45 Speaker 4: A weapon that feels like a full weapon to me? Is that anything? Are they called flowers or ground bloom flowers or something that's around kind of like that, but this feels a little more mobile and dangerous. It's like a Chinese star or something. 00:19:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, they hurled it. I don't know why we did this. We would throw black cats at each other. We would like light the whole pack in the street and then all the paper would explode. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: We were just bad country kids. 00:19:11 Speaker 4: No, I know that. Feeling full well, we would shoot Roman candles at each other, which is absolutely insane. You were shooting explosives at each other. Why is that what's happening? 00:19:24 Speaker 5: And we love to chastise kids now who are on TikTok and on their phones all the time. They were like, see you're just staring at them damn screens. Back in my day, we used to throw explosives at each other, like. 00:19:33 Speaker 4: Real, shooting fire at each other. Get out in the streets and burn out. Yeah, what was the last time you lit a firework? 00:19:44 Speaker 5: It's been years, right, Because now I live in a place, you know, in La where I can't do it illegally and I don't want to break the laws. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: So yeah, were you been in town over the fourth of July? 00:19:57 Speaker 2: I went to Palm Springs. 00:19:58 Speaker 4: Oh oh, I'm so jealous. So do you went on Springs for your birthday? 00:20:02 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:20:03 Speaker 4: Oh what a time. 00:20:04 Speaker 5: We rented a house. It was a nightmare to rent one. I had to scam eventually, what. 00:20:09 Speaker 4: Did you have to do? 00:20:11 Speaker 5: So I applied for so many rentals on Airbnb, and I'm black, and there's always this thing when you're black that you're like, oh. 00:20:17 Speaker 2: Shit, they're gonna find out that I'm black. 00:20:19 Speaker 5: And unfortunately that's like a part of my life, like in any aspect anywhere I'm showing up where it's just Lacey Mosley and that's all they know. I'm always like, who hope they're still down when you find out I'm black. Yeah, So it was that kind of situation. And then finally they just deleted my account. AIRBB just deleted my account for no reason. 00:20:40 Speaker 4: What. 00:20:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course I took to Twitter. 00:20:43 Speaker 4: But of course, wait, so this was after you stayed at the place or during. 00:20:46 Speaker 5: It was after I booked the place and they charged me overnight. They deleted my account and then issued a refund, which of course you have to wait for. 00:20:54 Speaker 4: And I have no idea. Why what an Airbnb. You're just on the biggest notice right now, what is happening with that company? 00:21:02 Speaker 2: And they're still sending me emails about. 00:21:04 Speaker 4: They'll never stop sending you emails. They could like kill your entire family and they'd still send you emails. These companies are insane. Airbnb, that's absurd. Well, but you still managed to get into the place. So oh, you complained on Twitter, So Mike complained on Twitter. That didn't work, still hasn't worked. 00:21:22 Speaker 5: But my cousin was with me, and he's a yoga instructor, and I was like, do you have any pictures with just like white people, like any white people? 00:21:29 Speaker 2: Maybe they won't know. 00:21:30 Speaker 5: And then so he did that, and then he changed because we have the same last name, so he changed his name on the profile, and then he rebooked the place like ten minutes after they had kicked me off, And so I still got to go there and enjoy it. 00:21:43 Speaker 4: The fact, I mean, my head is just absolutely spending right now. Also, if you ever need a picture of a fake photo to scam someone, feel free to use mine. I'll send you some beautiful head we won't be glad you said that, or you can just hack me on Instagram and take what you need. 00:22:04 Speaker 5: I actually made a collage of v Bridger, so I just need you to click on the link and put in your bank account information so I can send you the collage. 00:22:12 Speaker 4: That sounds okay, That sounds right to me, So I'll get that over to you right after this. Okay, So you did make it to Palm Springs. You got to be in a house? Did you take a few friends? What's the I mean? Because then this is a real birthday challenge for you. First you have to scam your way into Airbnb, which is absolutely unacceptable. But then we're also in the middle of a pandemic, which adds another challenge. So what was the whole situation? 00:22:37 Speaker 5: So I got a COVID test, which is another scam because I don't want to give them to you if you don't have these symptoms. But I did have like kind of a little sore throat well, and also it was like some people don't have symptoms right exactly, And I'm also just a hypochondriac, So I was like, I got a test my cousin got a test, and two more people came who had been sheltering in place. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: And I trust a lot. 00:23:01 Speaker 5: So it was just us and just four people in a big house and UH caterers and a photographer and a makeup artist, and there were party guests. When I say four, I mean seventy, which like I'm joking, but that's what people are really. 00:23:22 Speaker 2: Out here doing. 00:23:23 Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't want to be. 00:23:25 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be the person that everyone's like because that happened. 00:23:28 Speaker 5: There's this woman in DC who UH is like a philanthropist and just like a rich woman, and they had a ballet fundraiser on Zoom and then she threw an after party dinner party where she had like I think. 00:23:44 Speaker 2: Like thirty or forty. 00:23:45 Speaker 5: Guests, and she had coronavirus, of course, and she gave it to everyone. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: And now she's like a social pariah. 00:23:53 Speaker 5: They like wrote news articles about her and they're like, damn this woman more. But also everyone who went, and the people who went were trying to hide themselves and they were like, take the pictures down, take the pictures off Instagram, because they're all a shame now because they have COVID. 00:24:10 Speaker 4: I love putting half the effort in where it's like we're going to do part of this over zoom and then we're immediately not going to follow the protocols everyone of them. Does anyone deserve to get COVID? I can't say for sure, but you know, if you're making dumb moves like that, I don't know what to tell you at this point. It's like, what right going on? 00:24:29 Speaker 5: Also, the fact that people are like making news articles to shame people is so insane to me because they're not just doing it for famous people. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: They're doing it for regular families. 00:24:38 Speaker 5: There's a family in Texas where they had a birthday gathering and then it spread through the family and eighteen people ended up getting COVID, including two elderly people, And they had pictures of this regular family circulating on Twitter and news and people are just flogging them. 00:24:57 Speaker 4: Well, people need to know that this happens to ordinary people, and it can happen to anybody. What are you thinking? It's a vibe. 00:25:04 Speaker 5: You get COVID and then you get canceled while you get dragged on the internet, like and. 00:25:09 Speaker 2: You're ugly swallow a knife. Oh my god, damn. 00:25:16 Speaker 4: But then I see, you know, a video of like this guy in Costco screaming at everyone, and I'm like, look, you should probably get run over in the parking lot. You are the worst person in the world, and what are you doing? Well, it's just there's no excuse at this point. I'm out of patience for morons, belligerent idiots. Move into the parking lot. I'll get in my car and run you over. I've done with it. 00:25:41 Speaker 5: It's so Frustratings is volunteering to run you guys. 00:25:46 Speaker 4: I am I will, I will gotown will. I have a car. It's a hybrid, but it's got a little bit of get up and go. I am willing to run over your person of choice right in. Let me know. I'm gonna my country just running over people I've had. Have you ever run somebody over, Lacey? 00:26:08 Speaker 2: I have not. 00:26:09 Speaker 4: Okay, what if I have not? What if you revealed that now? 00:26:13 Speaker 5: Oh god, oh that would be the like, yes, I actually have time to talk about it. 00:26:21 Speaker 4: Okay, we've gone off off book here with your birthday. Ye, it's still interested in. So you went with four safe people. That sounds ideal to me. And you just had a nice time in Palm Springs. 00:26:31 Speaker 5: Yes, I got very sunburt and very mosquito bert or I guess that burn but bitten. They really treated me like Golden Corral, you know, all you can eat a buffet. But other than that, it was super fun. 00:26:45 Speaker 4: I don't associate Palm Springs with mosquitoes. That's really interesting. I feel like the desert, but I guess they're everywhere. These I thought they wouldn't be there either. I was shocked at their presence. 00:26:55 Speaker 5: I was like, we're social distancing, Like I didn't really invite you, so you know you're really crashy. 00:27:03 Speaker 4: Okay, did you cook food? Were you getting takeout? What's what's your deal? 00:27:06 Speaker 2: In Palm Springs we went to a very fancy Albertsons. 00:27:11 Speaker 4: Ooh, I love a fancy Albertson's. I'm a former Alberson's employee. Wow wow. A week. 00:27:18 Speaker 5: Sounds about as much time as anyone needs to work at Albertson's, depending on the Albertsons, because some of them are just not great. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: But this one I would have worked at it. 00:27:27 Speaker 5: They had like rubarb and like just stuff that you don't normally see at a big chain grocery store. 00:27:36 Speaker 2: I guess because it's palm springs. They're like, people want their. 00:27:38 Speaker 4: Rubarb, I've got it. Did you buy rubarb? 00:27:41 Speaker 2: I did not. 00:27:41 Speaker 5: I didn't need it, but I did look at it for a while, just like like, wow, why is this here? 00:27:46 Speaker 4: Is rubarba fruit? What is rhubarb? 00:27:48 Speaker 2: I don't know? People make pie with it? But they made pie. I don't know. I've never had rhubarb pie. 00:27:56 Speaker 4: I haven't. I've had like raw rubarb. I used to because it's like so and it's I remember enjoying that. But I do not know what category that object falls. And I know it comes from the ground, and I know that it's not manufactured in a factory. Other than that, I can't tell you if it's a fruit or vegetable, and I'm probably never going to learn. I'm just gonna let that remain a mystery. So you went to albertsonce you went grocery shopping. Something people don't know about Albertson's that I'm gonna well, I think a lot of people don't know, and has now been canceled by COVID, is that you could go to the bakery and ask for a cookie and they would give you one Oh wow, that's a little tip for when we finally escape this hell that we're living in. They would give you a cookie. They'll give you a cookie, chocolate chip cookie. You just walk up and see it. I mean, this is also information from about two thousand and seven, so take it with a greaty. 00:28:47 Speaker 2: Just taking a dip. 00:28:50 Speaker 4: Cookies two full dips in the economy since then. So I don't know what to say, but give it a shot. I mean, post COVID, you're going to deserve that little cookie while you're grocery shopping. And if you're at Albertson's, give them give him a ring. Anyway, back to Lacey's grocery trip, you went bought some what are you a good cook? 00:29:12 Speaker 5: I don't know if I am. My mom is really good cook. I can cook, but it's not my favorite thing to do. But my cousin is a really, really good cook. And he was with me. So he made like this really great corn salad he barbecued one day. He put like a really great salmon on the grill and like asparagus and like you know, it was like the whole The first night he made nachos that were like baked nachos. So like with the Mexican cheese on top and the like turkey, and then you put like that in the oven. You take it out and you put all the sour cream, the GLACAMOLEI the lettuce, all of that on time. 00:29:49 Speaker 2: They were beautiful. 00:29:49 Speaker 4: Oh wow, I love a baked nacho right now. 00:29:52 Speaker 2: It was really good. 00:29:54 Speaker 4: That's a key to any like going and staying in a house. You invite one person and I don't know your cousin, but you invite somebody who's good at cooking, whether you actually want them there or not, treat them like a friend, and then you've got everything taken care of. 00:30:09 Speaker 2: Right one chef, I can make dreams. 00:30:11 Speaker 4: Then you really are and you've got it. Yeah, but if you love it, then then they could just be in the kitchen and everyone gets to avoid them and they're enjoying themselves. So that's a little sea. 00:30:20 Speaker 5: And we assume they're enjoying themselves cooking. Then like, why won't anyone talk to me? I haven't spoken to Lacey. I was with Lacy in three years. And then she invites me to an intimate Calm Springs trip. 00:30:33 Speaker 4: Something's going on. She's either going to make me make dinner or she's going to murder me. Oh wow, well your cousin went and cooked. This sounds like a lovely time. 00:30:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:30:43 Speaker 4: Now I've got this American flag, Lacey. I mean, let's just be fully honest. If this was a real I truly think if this was a birthday gift given to me on my birthday, this would be the worst gift that anyone ever gave anyone. Whack do you think? I mean if you opened a birthday present and it had an American flag in it, what would your reaction be? 00:31:03 Speaker 5: I mean elation, this was the first word that comes to mind. Maybe tears of joy. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: No, I would hate it. I would absolutely hate it. 00:31:16 Speaker 4: It's perfect for a podcast, but a birthday gift, Like, I'm truly going through that scenario in my mind, and I don't know what I would like. I would shut down emotionally if somebody gave I who do you think I am? And who are you? Why are you getting me an American? 00:31:31 Speaker 5: I thought you would like this because you're a bad guy. 00:31:37 Speaker 4: This is the most boring. Weirdly, I would be mystified for weeks to come. 00:31:43 Speaker 5: Now I want to do it now. I want someone to experience this genuinely and be like why and just wonder for a long time. You need to give that a shot. A report back. 00:31:52 Speaker 4: I would really like to hear about somebody getting an American flag. Just baffled, like it's like in January, You're opening an American flag on your birthday. What's going on there? Oh geez, that's a whole thing. 00:32:06 Speaker 5: Well, and write like a weird card like I hope you enjoy this, or oh think you. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: I thought of you when I was I know you're American, and I know literally nothing else about it about you. This is the most default gift you could possibly give someone in the United States, although but also the most divisive gift. It's a really complicated puzzle gift, and I guess there is something appealing about a gift that just confuses and baffles. I want to play a game with you. 00:32:46 Speaker 2: Ooh, yes, I would love to play a game. 00:32:48 Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a choice of games. We have, the game Gift or a Curse, or the game Gift Master. What do you feel like playing? 00:32:56 Speaker 2: I'll go Gift Master. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: Okay, give me a number of between one and ten. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: Four. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: Okay, I've got to go into my calculation cave and do some calculating here. Okay, I'm I'm headed in. In the meantime, you use this time to promote something, recommend something, do whatever you want. You've got the microphone for who knows how long. I'll be right back. 00:33:19 Speaker 5: Oh yes, So guys, I have a podcast called Scam Goddess. If you like robbery and you like fraud and you like to do robbery, even. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: Listen, it's for you. 00:33:30 Speaker 5: I've had we talked about so many criminals on the show, and sometimes they reach out from jail, which has been really wonderful. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: I had one rapper who just got free. 00:33:41 Speaker 5: His name is Chad Focused, and he embezzled a million dollars to promote his rap album with billboards and lavish trips and Instagram photos, and he's finally. 00:33:49 Speaker 2: Out of jail. So shout out to Chad. 00:33:53 Speaker 5: We've had people write in about their robberies, which I was like, this is incriminating and I have to delete this evidence because I don't want the beds to come for me. But it's a fun show about getting robbed and scams. I. Oh, there's one weird story that I'll tell about the fourth of July. My uncle Steve always would come to these family reunions and it's super hot in Texas, and he would cut his jeens into shorts. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I think I think he did crack. 00:34:24 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that's what he was doing, and he would like cut the shorts straight across and. 00:34:30 Speaker 2: Then his butt would be hanging out of them. 00:34:33 Speaker 5: So that was always a family a weird family thing of just Uncle Steve's but being hanging out. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: I had a wonderful use of time promotion, the stories. We've got it all. Also, I just want to say if if you haven't listened to Scam Goddess, it's such a great podcast. And also the theme song is incredible. It's such a tough thing. It's truly a delight to listen to. Sou But let's enough about Lacey. Enough about Scam Goddess. We're about to play gift Master Lacey. This is how it works. I'm going to tell you three gifts, three items that you can give us gifts, and then I'm going to tell you three celebrities. You have to tell me which celebrity you would give which gift and why does that make sense? 00:35:19 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:35:19 Speaker 4: Okay, So the gifts that you're going to be giving today are lawn fertilizer, a cherished recipe, and a coffin. Now, the people that you're going to be giving these two are Helen Mirren, the Dame herself, Helen Mirren, Sierra R and B pop songstress Sierra, and John Travolta. We all know who John Travolta is. Wacko? What are you gonna do? 00:35:49 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna give the coffin to Sierra so she can put her music career in it. 00:35:53 Speaker 4: Oh, Lacey, Oh my heart is breaking for Sierra. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: Just go ahead. 00:36:00 Speaker 5: She's beautiful, she's got the beautiful husband, she's got the beautiful babies. 00:36:05 Speaker 2: And you know who's her husband, Russell Wilson. Russell, Yeah, Russell Wilson, the one who's a football player. 00:36:13 Speaker 4: Oh, it's like a good looking couple. 00:36:15 Speaker 2: It's a really good looking couple. It's like, you don't even need to do music anymore. 00:36:19 Speaker 4: And like what happened to the Sierra? She was really she was super hot for a while. Did Missy Elliott betray her? 00:36:26 Speaker 5: They were thically think it was Missy Elliott. 00:36:30 Speaker 4: Betrayed hers, kind of her champion, it felt like, and then she felt but I will say Sierra had a good song recently in the last couple of years. 00:36:37 Speaker 2: Didn't she You're talking about level Up. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: I'm thinking the song is like Whitney level It's like, now, I want to find out Whitney Houston. 00:36:48 Speaker 2: Did you just say Whitney Houston and Sierra in the same sense. 00:36:51 Speaker 4: It's like that kind of vibe, you know, like late eighties pop music. I want to find out what it is so I can recommend it to people. 00:36:57 Speaker 2: I guess Sierra say it with her throat. 00:36:59 Speaker 4: She's you know, it's like singing in quotation marks. If I could find out, Oh it's called I think it's called thinking about You, fantastic pop song. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: I haven't heard it. 00:37:12 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm gonna listen to it and you're gonna throw that coffin in a river because. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it in my ears. 00:37:18 Speaker 4: Something something went wrong, let's just be honest. Something. There were some bumps in the road, but she gave us in the mid thousands some good songs. 00:37:26 Speaker 5: She gave us goodies. And oh she did say like that part was bad. I never said her music career was bad. I just said it was over. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: It's dead. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: That's different. Okay, fair enough. She maybe the coffin is good for her. 00:37:42 Speaker 2: I love Sierra. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: Sierra reached out to me. We'll talk off podcast. I think that the Thinking about You song is fantastic, can't. I want to also hear about what happened with Missy Elliott because I think there was a falling out or something. 00:37:55 Speaker 2: Ooh, I would love to know that, tea. 00:37:57 Speaker 4: I would too something. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: So what do I have left Helen Mirren John Chibalta. 00:38:02 Speaker 4: I think you have a bag of lawn fertilizer, and you also have a cherished recipe. So it may be a recipe that you wrote or from you know, a grandmother's cherish, you know, passed down over the years. It's up to you. I don't care. 00:38:14 Speaker 5: I would give Helen Mirren the cherish recipe because she just always has felt like she could cook. Maybe it's because of her boobs, but I just always thought like she could be able to cook really. 00:38:25 Speaker 4: Well, someone who knows how to do everything, yes. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: And very well, like better than everyone. 00:38:32 Speaker 5: So I could just see her in the kitchen, you know what, are boobs there just stirring up the recipe and like. 00:38:39 Speaker 4: I don't think about Helen Maren's boobs. When I think about Helen Mirren, I maybe I need to take it. 00:38:44 Speaker 5: They're really big, and I always associate like big boobs with like good cooking. 00:38:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, it does kind of make sense. It's like you're making your way around and you just know you've got the situation under control, right. 00:38:57 Speaker 5: And maybe that's just because there's so many like busty ladies on boxes of food. 00:39:03 Speaker 2: Why am I looking at that? 00:39:04 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm a weirdo, you know, like, just look next time you see foods with ladies. 00:39:09 Speaker 4: On it, look at this. I'm thinking Little Debbie, which I don't know what. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: She's a child. 00:39:15 Speaker 4: I thought little Debbie was like a woman, Debbie woman. Well the little throws you off. You know. It's like, right, are they just saying little girl? Maybe it's time for little Debbie to just become Debbie. I don't know, right, Oh no, little all apologies to little Debbie. 00:39:35 Speaker 5: Also, little Debbie is a rapper, because that's the first little Debbie that came up. 00:39:40 Speaker 4: Should be a rapper. Absolutely, I would love to hear that rapper, right. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: Okay, so little Debbie's a child, yeah, oh yeah, she's. 00:39:48 Speaker 4: Like much a child. You know, we didn't know what she looked like. 00:39:52 Speaker 1: Guys, I was. 00:39:54 Speaker 4: Picturing, you know, just your typical like fifties housewife with the little Debbie pat Ka ching. That's probably I'm thinking, Uh, who's the Crocker Woman, Betty Crony Crocker. I think I'm thinking, who's the Crocker woman? 00:40:11 Speaker 2: Said? No one ever? 00:40:14 Speaker 4: And as far as I know, UH say it again, who's the Crocker Uh, Susie Crocker, Betty Betty, Betty Crocker. I remember a news story. She's like a computer. 00:40:28 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:40:29 Speaker 4: They put her together with a computer, not a real person. We've got really off topic here with the cer. 00:40:34 Speaker 5: It looks like like every white president's wife that we've ever had. 00:40:40 Speaker 4: It's just Nancy Reagan in several different costumes. That's what it is, a red cardigan, and she's she's the Crocker Woman. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: Nancy Reagan, the original trap queen. 00:40:51 Speaker 4: She certainly is Nancy. Get off my podcast. 00:40:58 Speaker 5: So and then obviously now the fertilize there goes to John Travolta. 00:41:01 Speaker 4: Okay, and why just because it's like John, I had this lying around, or it's I know your faul do work on the scientology. 00:41:08 Speaker 5: Property exactly like as a as a scientologist, I know that he has to work on the on the grounds or or give a lot of money. 00:41:18 Speaker 2: So maybe if he ever wants to just like you. 00:41:20 Speaker 5: Know, go till some some science god soil, you know, for Xenom, And. 00:41:27 Speaker 4: They've got a lot of property that needs maintenance. And I bet people would be you know, the regular scientology people who are out there like scrubbing the sidewalk with the toothbrush should be thrilled to see him fertilizing along. 00:41:39 Speaker 5: Exactly like I think he should become more of the people. And also like I want to see l Ron Hubbard out there scrubbing the. 00:41:45 Speaker 4: Sidewalk, the very ghost of l Ron just kind of floating around the properties with a giant bag or one of those weird little what is that little machine that throws the fertilizer. 00:41:56 Speaker 5: It's like a Oh, I don't own a home, I would I would never know what that was, but I know I've seen it. 00:42:03 Speaker 4: But I don't know. I guess it's a fertilizer. Maybe it's a fertilizer spreader. That feels like a word for. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: That fertilizer spreader, lawn cutter. 00:42:12 Speaker 4: It's a lot of that's what the situation is. Okay, I think you actually did it. I mean you started off a little hot, just so unfair to poor See. 00:42:24 Speaker 2: You're in a big Sierra fan. 00:42:25 Speaker 4: I just I just feel like something went wrong for about a decade for her, and she got way off track and we I really felt like she was gonna you know, there was a while when she was the reigning queen. 00:42:37 Speaker 5: Goes wrong for a decade. I feel like that's too long for something to go wrong. If you're like, yeah, man, I just something went wrong. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: But for ten years it just. 00:42:50 Speaker 4: Kept going wrong. I don't know what it's gonna go right. 00:42:54 Speaker 2: And then you know, nine years later it was still going wrong. 00:43:00 Speaker 5: Too. 00:43:00 Speaker 4: And now I've got a coffin. Oh geez, well that all side. You're absolutely a gift master. I'm I'm proclaiming Lacey is as scam god as she's a gift master. What will she be next? She's gonna be on Sierra's head, nest Or. I feel like I love Missy Elliott to think you. I don't think you cross, Missy Elliott. Let's just be hon no. 00:43:25 Speaker 5: I love Missy, mistermeanor, and I love Sierra. I want to make that clear. I don't want to think. I don't want the blowback. I don't want the Sierra Hive coming after me. What would they be called? The two Steppers, the Goody, the Goodies? 00:43:36 Speaker 4: Siera Knotts? Does that sound that sounds. 00:43:40 Speaker 2: Like they all four chand or racism invasive? 00:43:42 Speaker 4: A pop star? The Sierra Knotts. I'm a Sierra not I'm gonna start the fan club Sierra ser miss. Oh this, oh my god, that's incredible. The Sierra. You' a miss. Yeah, you're just a refreshing just like Sierra herself. You're also not that popular anymore. 00:44:03 Speaker 5: Interest because people want brite and they're upset when they get Sierra Man. 00:44:09 Speaker 4: Oh boy, Okay, we're moving on. We're Sierra. You've gone a lot of time on this podcast. Get in touch with me. We've got to move into the next thing. Because people need our help, Lacy. People have been writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They need help giving gifts to people in their lives. Will you help me suggest some gifts? 00:44:28 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:44:29 Speaker 4: Okay, here's the first one. It says, Hello, Bridger and guest. My sister had to postpone her wedding by a year because of the pandemic and is obviously very sad about it. I thought it might cheer her up to give her a negative one year anniversary present. What is something I can give her to make her smile, but it's also useful. That's from Malura. She didn't tell me where she's from. She's somewhere within the world because you know, worldwide pandemic and she wants to give this negative one year anniversary. This is a very untraditional I've never heard of such a thing. So this is what does that even mean? 00:45:04 Speaker 5: Is that like she hasn't had an anniversary. 00:45:08 Speaker 4: So I guess maybe on the the planned wedding date that they were that has probably now come and gone or is coming up or whatever, she's going to give them a gift. As I'm not I'm not a mathematician, I'm not a wedding planner. I'm just here with an email. 00:45:29 Speaker 5: So one, I want to say, let's rebrand it from calling it negative one year maybe because right there, yeah, Laura, yeah, I can't think one hmmm, So for for their end, Okay, So I always think it's cool to give people things that they wouldn't buy for themselves, but that are super useful, so you know, like all that, like kind of as seen on TV ship. 00:45:56 Speaker 4: I think some dump cake whatever that or. 00:46:02 Speaker 2: Give her one of those things that makes one egg. 00:46:06 Speaker 5: So since you'll probably be single again soon with your negative one year anniversary. 00:46:11 Speaker 4: You're gonna be wanting to microwave a single egg. 00:46:15 Speaker 5: No, but yeah, something like that would, I feel like would be thoughtful and useful, Like you know, if you go on asen on TV dot com and see if there's something fun on there that's useful that you'd never buy yourself. 00:46:26 Speaker 4: Right, something that like, Also, everybody has so much time on their hands, they're goninna want to use a little gadget or something that like otherwise they wouldn't have had the time to figure out or screw around with anyway, so she and her fiance can get together and microwave an egg. I'm trying to think of some of these. I guess basically every one of these items has now been pitched on Shark Tank. So if you can remember something that was on shark Tank, yeah, or sous snuggies of Snuggies. I thought you said SUS's Nuggies and I was wondering use that like a souv chicken nugget or something suit. Some snuggies would be fine. And it's a time when no one's dressing up anyway, so why not throw on a comfortable robe. That's a blanket. I think it is just a robe, and we fell for it. 00:47:13 Speaker 2: I had one. Someone said let's turn. 00:47:16 Speaker 5: A rope backwards and become millionaires, and they did it. 00:47:20 Speaker 2: They did it. 00:47:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, uh, do what you want to do. Maybe something that says just not married. I don't know. Is that something that you can a plate or something. 00:47:30 Speaker 5: I don't know, because I feel like if you're reminding her that she didn't have her wedding. 00:47:33 Speaker 4: That's gonna hearts. 00:47:36 Speaker 2: Just not married. 00:47:41 Speaker 4: Again. I'm doing I'm trying my hardest with this embroider. 00:47:44 Speaker 5: A pillow that says you didn't get your deposit back for your venue. 00:47:51 Speaker 4: That's really rub it in there, truly. Just send them a check for fifty dollars. It'll go towards this venue cost that there ever is never coming back. Or you know, maybe you send them two different sets of towels with each of their last names on it, and then when their wedding comes around, they can combine them and listen, Laura, I'm just going to tell you you've created a situation for yourself here that is very difficult. Godspeed. I'm leaving it at that. We've got to help at least one more person here, because we have a billion of these lazy Let's read this one, Highbridger. It's one of my oldest childhood friend's birthdays in a couple of weeks. She works in the medical field and is currently Oh wow, this is a real thing on the frontline treating COVID nineteen patients. She lives across the country for me, so I have to send it to her in San Diego. Any ideas for a gift. I feel like a card with flowers and a bottle of wine isn't special enough for thank you from Olivia Olivia. Great question. You're right now to just send her the flowers in a bottle of wine. Who cares about that? This person is? I don't know, Lay It sounds like this person's exhausted all the time. First of all, I'm just gonna say, a face mask, something that can help her sleep. Second of all, send her give her some credit for takeout or something. I just yeah, a gift basket, a gift Basket's a great idea with but you got. 00:49:19 Speaker 5: To make the gift basket because I think it should be specific, Like you're saying, like a gift card to Uber Eats and a face mask and maybe a lavender spray that she can like put on her pillow at night, and. 00:49:31 Speaker 4: Yes, some sort of yeah. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can not crap, if you. 00:49:37 Speaker 5: Can get CBD lotion, that stuff is so great to rub on your feet and your back. And since she can't really get a massage right now, like that's also nice. 00:49:46 Speaker 2: I do that stuff like this. I feel like I. 00:49:50 Speaker 4: Feel like some sort of you could send her one of those foot massaging machines. I feel like someone. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Who's the same person. 00:49:58 Speaker 5: I was thinking that before you started talking, the ones that you like stick your feet in and like you give from Brookstone. 00:50:06 Speaker 4: If I've been running around a hospital all day, you want your feet mushed, So yeah, send her one of those. I think, Olivia, we've just nailed it. That's the thing. She's going to be thrilled. It's something that she's never going to buy for herself. 00:50:21 Speaker 2: Exactly. I bought my mom one. 00:50:22 Speaker 4: Oh did she enjoy it? 00:50:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves it. 00:50:26 Speaker 4: Go to the Brookstone or the sky mall or the I feel like there's another one of those gadget zones. Or I'm sure this is an easy thing to acquire, and you also it's an easy thing to ship. You just order it online and send it to her. Yeah, and then you don't even have to this, I mean knows the world. We've really done Olivia and her friend a favor. Okay, well we've answered two questions. I'm ending it at that. We've helped enough people already. What a wonderful time I've had having Lacey here. Despite this, you know, I've this really mind bending gift from Lacy. I know you love it. I am now the owner of an American flag. 00:51:09 Speaker 5: We just don't hang it anywhere. Sounds really weird, mixed message. 00:51:12 Speaker 4: It certainly does. It's a very complicated symbol right now, and uh it will. I'm also gonna I will be posing with it for a photo on Instagram, which is going to become even more confusing. And it's just gonna but uh it's gonna be. It's gonna That's the thrill of a podcast. That's a thrill of seft. Lacey is the scam goddess and when you when you invite the scam Goddess into your home, you do not know what to expect, and that's what's so exciting. Lacey, thank you so much for being here. It's so wonderful having you. Everyone, go listen to Scam Goddess and uh yeah. 00:51:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is amazing. Thank you so much for having me. 00:51:50 Speaker 4: Oh thank you, and uh bye, everybody, I don't know, take care of yourselves. Go light some fireworks. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, And if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it? 00:52:27 Speaker 1: Hello? And why did you hear? Funa made myself perfectly clear, But you're a guess to me. You gotta come to me empty and. 00:52:44 Speaker 3: I said no guests, your presences, presents, and I'm already too much stuff. 00:52:54 Speaker 2: So how do you Dad to surbey me 00:53:02 Speaker 3: Fifteen