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Speaker 1: my soft red ship mates Gene barder here Us and

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Speaker 1: SHI just happens. And you know, SOFTWAREP has really pushed

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Speaker 1: workout program for the guys who are aspiring, you know,

429
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: Special Forces soldiers, and I think if they follow that,

430
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: they should have an easier time than I did when

431
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: I was a young man and those type of things

432
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: weren't available to us. Yeah. Absolutely, Which era were you

433
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: in the s S. I was joined the army in

434
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: night and I was one of the s we stalled

435
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: SF babies. Now they have, uh, theen X program, but

436
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, we were called FF babies, and you know,

437
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: back then we didn't have a prep course or you

438
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: know anything. It was basically sink or swim. And luckily

439
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: I served with some fantastic n c o s who

440
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: had come from special operations, the units of ranging battalions

441
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Those guys got all of us,

442
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, through what we needed to do. And then

443
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I went up to when I was forced out due

444
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: to injuries, and that was my era. But you know

445
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: it was I was so fortunate. I served most of

446
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: my career in the seven Special Forces Groups, and you know,

447
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: back then that was kind of a golden age for

448
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: SF and in Seventh Group in general, because you know,

449
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: there was so much going on and it doesn't even

450
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: compare to what the guys are doing today. You're doing

451
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: fantastic work, but back then that was like essentral and

452
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 1: South America was kind of a hot spot. You know,

453
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: there was there, you know, the war in El Salvador,

454
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: there was you know, Anna wars going on all over

455
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: the place in Central American posts, all the drug stuff

456
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: down in Colombia, in Olivia, Peru. I mean, so it

457
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: was a really interesting time. I was so fortunate, like

458
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: I said, I mean I grew up down there and

459
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: that was you know, in in Seventh Group and then

460
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: I get to become a warrant down there, and and

461
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it. I wouldn't have traded

462
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: a second of it. That's awesome. So when did you retire? Wow,

463
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: that's an awesome career. So getting into what you're doing

464
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: right now at Special Operations dot Com. As we were saying,

465
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: we do this call every Tuesday where I get to

466
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: hear what Steve is up to and what the other

467
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: guys at the sites are up to. You're gonna be

468
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: doing some video interviews some veterans from the older eras,

469
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: whether it's World War Two, Korean War, or even some

470
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: Vietnam era guys. Uh, And I'm sure people want to

471
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: hear all about that. I'm excited to see the footage. Yeah,

472
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: in fact, and it ties into my love from military

473
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: history is and you know, one of the sad things is,

474
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about our World War Two veterans

475
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: and you know, we call them our greatest generation, and

476
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. Um, you know, so many of

477
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: these guys don't get to tell their story because they

478
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: grew up in a different era. You know, when they

479
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: came home, they didn't want to talk about what they

480
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: saw over in Europe or in the Pacific, and you know,

481
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: they went about rebuilding their lives and you know, they

482
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: they went about their whole lives and through families and

483
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: grandkids and you know, and then so sadly, a lot

484
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: of these guys are disappearing every day, and so what

485
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: we're doing is not only with special Operations dot Com.

486
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm partnering with our we have a local cable

487
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: television station here in my hometown, and we're interviewing these veterans.

488
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I spoke with the World War Two veteran. Uh.

489
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: He was a backseater and a dive bomber and you know,

490
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: he fought on Eo Jima, Okinawa. He was there for

491
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: this surrender of Japan. He actually flew over one of

492
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: the Adam bombs sites after they had dropped it. And

493
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, you talked to a guy like that, and

494
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: then he got in with the Battle of the Bulge,

495
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, who fought the Germans in the snow. I mean,

496
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: these stories are just amazing, and we're putting these all

497
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: on videotape. So once, um, you know, we get enough

498
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: of them, we're gonna start airing these. And uh, I'm

499
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: even talking with some Vietnam vets, you know, fought in

500
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Vietnam and sadly we're losing so many of those men

501
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: as well. And their stories that are all fascinating because

502
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: they come from all different walks of life. They all

503
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: have different experiences and I think these are stories that

504
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: need to be told. They need to be kept for posterity.

505
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: And uh, I think this is something that would interest

506
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: so many of our listeners and readers because I think that,

507
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's important. I agree completely. What's what's the

508
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: main objective and the main thing that you want people

509
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: to get out of this when they see these videos.

510
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I think the main thing is that you know, um,

511
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: these men all have a story to be told, and

512
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: I think we all need to listen to it because

513
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: you know what they went through, and especially these World

514
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: War two vet you know what they went through is

515
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: that a lot of them had no idea of what

516
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: they were really getting into, and you know, their country

517
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: was going to war. They answered the call and then

518
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: this experience affected them for the rest of their lives.

519
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: And you know, for many of them, it was only

520
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: a very very short amount of time. You're talking maybe

521
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: two years of their life, which in a ninety year

522
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: old man's life, which is very miniscule. But everything after

523
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: that two years has been shaped by their experience. And

524
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: I think that's so important for all of us because

525
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be them the next time, It's going

526
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: to be you. Know, our kids are grandkids that are

527
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: going to face this, and you know, it's it's it's

528
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: important and the fact that if we don't learn from

529
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: our history and then we're doomed to repeat a lot

530
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: of it unfortunately. Absolutely, we've had some some great older,

531
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: older era vets as guests on the show before um.

532
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: You know, the ones that come to mind for me

533
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: were Pearl Harbor Survived for Jim, Jim Downing, Ernie Andrews,

534
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: we had on Way Back, who's still out there running

535
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: or at least was the last time we spoke to him.

536
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: And we had Captain Jerry Yelling on the Power of

537
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: Thought podcast, which I should say, if you guys haven't

538
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: checked out that episode or that podcast, definitely looked that

539
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: up because Jerry Yelling was awesome on Brandon's Power of

540
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Thought podcast if you haven't heard that. Are there any

541
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: stories in particular that you've heard so far that just

542
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: stand out to you? Well, again, the World War Two

543
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: dive bomber veteran, because you know, he was a guy

544
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: that grew up on a farm. He never when he

545
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: was grown up had any uh aspirations of being anything

546
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: but a farmer like his father. And then um, you know,

547
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: he was going to take over the family business basically,

548
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: and then after World War Two he had an ankling

549
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: for community service and he spent the rest of his

550
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: life serving in different aspects. He was like a local

551
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: town selectment, he was a local school board member, he

552
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: was you know, he served basically for the rest of

553
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: his life. Uh, you know, because his World War Two

554
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: service kind of a little fire under him to serve

555
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: the rest of his life as a community service guy.

556
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's uh, something that was fascinating. And

557
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting ready to have talked with another

558
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: guy who was Battle of the Bulge veteran, and that's

559
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: something that's near and gat of my heart because my

560
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: own father never told his story. And I've told Jack this, Uh,

561
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, I found out, you know, my own father,

562
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: we never knew anything even when I was in the military,

563
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: and my dad wouldn't talk about his World two service.

564
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: And then come to find out, after he passed away,

565
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: all these former vets came to his wake and they're

566
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: telling us story that we never heard about my father.

567
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: He was actually in a book and I ended up

568
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: buying this book. I read what was in there, and

569
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: it was fascinating to read about your own father in

570
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: a book that's something that you had never heard. And

571
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: then I contacted. It was Division from Pennsylvania, which is

572
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: a National Guard division, their division association, and I got

573
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: to talk with some of the guys who are actually

574
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in the books in the uh you know, the basic

575
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: scene where my dad was involved, and I learned about

576
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: what happened there, and it was fascinating to talk to

577
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: somebody who was there. And I'm reading the pages off

578
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: to this guy and he's laughing. He's like, I remember

579
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday, and I wish I could have

580
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: had these same conversations with my father. And that's what

581
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: drives me to do this stuff. Now, that's awesome. I

582
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: could only imagine. I mean, we you talked about earlier,

583
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: like the changes in culture a little bit, But what

584
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: do you think are the biggest reasons that guys of

585
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: this era are actually very eager to get out there

586
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: and get their story out. Not not everybody, but there's

587
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: plenty of guys writing books, as we all know. And

588
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: the guy us from this older era, you know, to

589
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: not even speak to your son about this is pretty amazing. Yeah,

590
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: I think you know, there's been a changing culture because

591
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of us who grew up you know,

592
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: with fathers like this, you know, um or grandfathers, and

593
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: some of the cases for the guys who are serving now,

594
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, they've they've come to realize that, you know,

595
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: these guys had a story to tell and it never

596
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: really get out there. And I think now that they're

597
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: all coming out because they're like, hey, you know, um,

598
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, we all kind of you know, talk down

599
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: about our own experiences, but you know, we come to

600
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: realize that, hey, this might be of interest to someone else,

601
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: and it might be of interest to my son someday,

602
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, So that's why we all do this. And uh,

603
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's been the change. And I

604
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of veterans don't like

605
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: when guys write books about what's going on. I've, for one,

606
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I walk every one of them because I think everyone

607
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: has their own perspective on things. And you know, I

608
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: know you had Rob O'Neil on and I found not

609
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: only his book, but it's interviews that you've done with

610
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: him was absolutely fascinating. Thanks. Yeah, there's there's I mean,

611
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: he receives like the most criticism of all the people,

612
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: because it is true that if if he did what

613
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: he did decades ago, it would be unheard of to

614
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: go out there take credit for it and write a book. Yeah,

615
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: but I mean, how many guys can say that they actually,

616
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, took out the number one terrorist in the

617
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: world that you know, so I think, you know, taken

618
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: into consideration. And I know a lot of people disagree

619
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: with that, but that's a story that needs to be told,

620
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: and I think the American public needs to know what

621
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: one done with that. And uh, I don't. I don't

622
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: feel anything bad about what he did or how he

623
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: went about it. And I think he should have wrote

624
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: a book. I think that's exactly what people need to

625
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: read and see because it's you know, it's part of

626
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: our history. It's what's driving us right now. And you know, I,

627
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: like I said, I was listening. I was one of

628
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: the listeners that day when you had him in the studio,

629
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a fascinating interview. And and again,

630
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Navy seals and Green berets were

631
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: all the same, but we all walk on water. But

632
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: at the same time, he was kind of self, you know,

633
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: he was talking down a little bit about what he did.

634
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: And I'll be the first to tell you if I

635
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: did what he did, I'd be writing a book myself. Yeah.

636
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: I think that's how most guys feel. I mean, even

637
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: those that are critical, you do have to wonder. I mean,

638
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: it is a great opportunity to get out there and

639
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: get your story told. And and he's a really good

640
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: guy too, And I should throw throwing a shameless plug.

641
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Speaker 1: He'll be back in March on the Power of Thought podcast,

642
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: so look out for that. Yeah, that's awesome because again,

643
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: I you know, I thought he was a great interview,

644
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: and you know, because he has a lot to tell

645
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: and h that kind of experience not many people have. Yeah. Absolutely.

646
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: So as for the videos that you're doing, are these

647
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: going to be rolled that over a period of time

648
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: or are they all coming out at once? When when

649
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: should we expect to see these? I'm not sure. We're

650
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna forward everything and we're gonna put them all together.

651
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: I believe the plan is to release them all at

652
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: once in a compilation, but I'm not sure right now.

653
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: That's that's still subject to interpretation, I guess. But yeah,

654
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna get them out as quick as we can.

655
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: We're we're taping the interviews as quick as we can.

656
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: In fact, I have a Veteran's Council meeting with our

657
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: local veterans tonight, and I'm going to talk to a

658
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: couple of more of the guys World War two and

659
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: the Korean War veterans to see if we can get

660
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: them in the television studio and put some more on tape.

661
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: That's gonna be killer when it comes out of me.

662
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Were there any guys that you either had to massage

663
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: a bit until you got them to say, all right,

664
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: I'll appear on film, or or any guys who just

665
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: flat out said no, I'm not going to talk about it. Yeah,

666
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: some guys were more than willing to be interviewed, but

667
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: when they heard it was going to be filmed, they

668
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: bought because they were like, no, I don't mind talking

669
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: about it, but I don't want to be on film.

670
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 1: And when we asked why, they were like, because I'd

671
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: be embarrassed for somebody to see me and think, oh,

672
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: this guy thinks he's like a hero. So it's like, no,

673
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it's not like that law, you know. But yeah, that

674
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: that's been the sticking point as the video portion of it.

675
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: Do you think your veteran status helps these guys to

676
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: open up in some cases? Oh? Absolutely, because they know

677
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: even though we you know, grew up in different time

678
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, frames and errors, and we served doing different

679
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: much different things, you know. I think that's the one,

680
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: the one aspect of this whole thing that ties everyone together,

681
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: and it puts them more at ease because they know that, hey,

682
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, we've all feel the

683
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: same dirt, so to speaker, you know, they've suffered the

684
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: same hardships. Yeah, one of the big changes in culture,

685
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: I think, And we've talked about it before in the show,

686
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: and I know you guys have written about it. Guys

687
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: today who are transitioning back into the civilian world, who

688
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: are going through problems are very much encouraged to see

689
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: a therapist talk about these problems um in some cases

690
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: just seek different um treatment and activities you could do.

691
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: Brandon actually recently wrote an article about how doing yoga

692
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: and meditation has helped him a lot. And I think

693
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: guys from that Vietnam era and previous eras were told

694
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: not to really say anything, and they just kept these

695
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: feelings and these stories. In cases like your dad completely

696
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: bottled up inside. Yeah, and you know that's that's a

697
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: huge problem right now. And you know, it's a it's

698
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: a problem where a lot of these veterments who are

699
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, they're suffering from thoughts of depression, some of

700
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: them have substance abuse issues. Here in Massachusetts where I

701
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: live up in the northeast, the the local just the

702
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: sheriff's department that runs the incarceration of these guys, they're

703
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: trying something new with the veterans and they're they're calling

704
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: them hum V cells, where these veterans that if they're

705
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: not in a you know, the most serious kind of

706
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: a lockdown, if they're in like a medium security or

707
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: a low security type of prison. They're putting these guys

708
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: in um what they call hum V cells and where

709
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: it's not so much like a jail but a military

710
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: barracks and they're they're putting military stuff on the walls

711
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: and they're trying to appeal to the time of their

712
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: lives when you know, they felt like they had uh

713
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: their lives more in control. And it seems to be working.

714
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: These guys that they're you know, rate of recivitism, I

715
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: guess you could say is really really low and they're

716
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: they're finding these guys when you appeal to that side

717
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: of them, and they're having veterans come in and speak

718
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: with them, that it seems to be working. And in fact,

719
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: myself and another guy from my hometown, I've been invited

720
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: to go speak with some of those guys to let

721
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: them know that, hey, there is white at the end

722
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: of the tunnel, and there is life after the military,

723
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: and we can all work together and pull ourselves through this.

724
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: That's definitely an important thing. The New England area has

725
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: been hit hard by this opioid epidemic, and a lot

726
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: of that is veterans. Yeah. Absolutely, our whole area up

727
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: here this sole opioid thing. I mean, it's it's gotten.

728
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: It's an epidemic right now and there are a lot

729
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: of veterans involved in this, and it's something that it's

730
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: a scary thing. I mean, we all know somebody who's

731
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: been involved with them. And it's no longer you know,

732
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: people think, oh, it's an inner city, you know, low

733
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: income thing. Uh, No, it isn't. It's a problem that

734
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: goes across all of social strata and every you know,

735
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: conceivable family group. It's affecting it's not just you know

736
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: what people would consider that, you know, the old wives

737
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: tale of it being you know in a city, you know,

738
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: low income thing. No, it isn't. And the a priorid

739
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: epidemic is probably the worst up here in New England

740
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: that it is anywhere else in the country. And and

741
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: with veterans, for example, sometimes they are prescribed something by

742
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: the v A and it it gets them into a

743
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: rabbit hole of of taking all different types of prescription drugs.

744
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, because a lot of the guys, the one

745
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: complaint you hear all the time is the v A

746
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: really doesn't want to treat them. They'll just throw more

747
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: meads at them, you know, and that's not the answer.

748
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: And you know, for somebody like myself, you know, my

749
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: problems were in a skill computer other guys. But at

750
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: the same time, when I was first injured in the

751
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: line of duty, I injured my back, they were doing

752
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: the same thing with me, you know, they just kept

753
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: giving you more and more and finally I hadn't showed

754
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: all the way. And uh, I get on an exercise

755
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: program because I could when I first got out and

756
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: my wife can buction me there, I could barely walk.

757
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: You know, and if I had stayed doing what they

758
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: asked me to do, I'd probably be in a wheelchair

759
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: myself right now. But I'm not gonna sit here and

760
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: tell you I'm the most pride guy you'll ever see.

761
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: I still get out an exercise, I still carry rut sacks.

762
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: So wow, that's awesome, and I think it is important.

763
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: I've heard Jack say that on the show that one

764
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: of the important things when guys get out is they

765
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: got to keep that warrior mentality absolutely, And you know,

766
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I think that veterans how

767
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: we band together, because you know, a lot of times

768
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: when guys get out to feel like they're they're alone,

769
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: and then that's what the depression sets in. But you're not,

770
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: especially in this area. With social media, we're all together

771
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: now and uh, you know, guys can reach out to

772
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: one another and and we can link up or talk

773
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: on the phone. I mean, I spoke this last week

774
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: my old team leader from Special Forces is uh. It

775
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: was a quarter apolegic back in he got hurt, and

776
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: he was remarking to me that he's really sad because

777
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: so many of these kids who get hurt and end

778
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: up in a chair now from Iraq and Afghanistan. They

779
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: die and then like three or four years, you see

780
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: so many of them. And he works with disabled vets

781
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 1: now and you know, he said, I've been in a chair.

782
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: He's going on thirty years and uh, you know it's like, uh,

783
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, he has the will to keep going on

784
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: because he's involved with the veteran community and he he

785
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: thinks a lot of these guys shut themselves off and

786
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: he's an amazing man even though he's in a chair.

787
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: He when sky diving last year. Um, he went skiing

788
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: in Jail, Colorado, And when I talked to him just

789
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, he said he wanted to

790
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: go skydiving again, as doctor was so against it. He

791
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: was like, if you break your hip, you won't recover.

792
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: And he's like, I gotta go do it at least

793
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: one more time. That's crazy. I mean, I'm completely able bodied,

794
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: and you will not see me going skydiving anytime soon.

795
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: Not happening. I wanted to go, my my wife doesn't

796
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: want me to, so he thinks I'm getting a little

797
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: too long in the tooth for that now. So I

798
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: tried to get my son Ago skydiving on his eighteen birthday,

799
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: but that got shot down. Um. You know what I

800
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: was just thinking is when you were saying about these

801
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: veterans and reaching out and all that, there's been so

802
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: many guys on the podcast who have said before, like

803
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: before any veteran or or someone they've served with does

804
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: something stupid, that they'll always take a phone call from them.

805
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: And I even remember we had on Karl Monger, the

806
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: executive director of a Gallant Few, which is a great

807
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: organization that does stuff for veterans, I think Army Rangers

808
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: in particular. Um, but he gives out his phone number

809
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: and he's there for any guy's going through tough time.

810
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: So there's there are plenty of resources out there. I

811
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: think the biggest problem is that mentality that there there

812
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: is no one out there before guys really look into it. Yeah,

813
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: and then that's the problem that you know, as veterans,

814
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: we need to stop and you know, because we're all

815
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: answer each other, and you know, that's the one thing

816
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: that you know, I think that we do better now

817
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: than we used to. It still can get a lot better,

818
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: and it's being there for each other and letting me,

819
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, your your brothers know that if you you know,

820
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: if you get into a dark place, all you need

821
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: to do is reach out, and we're all there for one.

822
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: I think the Special Forces community is really good at that,

823
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: but we still have guys that fall through the tracks,

824
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: and I think we can still do better. Yeah, and

825
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: that's excellent that through your work, you're doing something that

826
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: has that veteran to veteran connection of guys who haven't

827
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: been out there and are probably telling their story for

828
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: the first time to you, and it will be told

829
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: to an audience of people who um you know, are

830
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: are young, are possibly joining the military now, and in

831
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: the long term, these videos are on the internet forever,

832
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: so long after these guys are gone because of you,

833
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: that they'll be able to have their stories out there.

834
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's just remarkable. Yeah, and uh,

835
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's what we're hoping to do. And I

836
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: hope when people see the interviews that they can get

837
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: something out of him. I know I do when I

838
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: talk to these guys, because like I said, I I

839
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: love history and military history and you know, you know,

840
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: we all grew up in different eras, but you know,

841
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: we all share the same thing and that's a sense

842
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: of commitment and duty. And you know, I think some

843
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: of these guys, the stories they have to tell are

844
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: just amazing and hopefully when our readers and you know,

845
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: listeners get to see this, that they'll enjoy them as well.

846
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: Right on, man, So check out Steve's work which is

847
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: at special operations dot com. Just look up Steve Ballas

848
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Jerry You're you're writing most of the stuff that you

849
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: see on there, just about everything. And you can follow

850
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: Steve on Twitter at Steve B seven s f G

851
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: at Steve B seven s f G. Give him a

852
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: follow anything else before you get out of here, because

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Speaker 1: it's just, um, you know, I've really enjoyed my time here,

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Speaker 1: like I've been here about a year now, and um,

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Speaker 1: And you know, my little portion of it is I

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter and everything else. Um. Thanks man, thanks

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Speaker 1: for finally doing this with me. It's long overdue, and

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Speaker 1: for having me. Like I said, I was flatter that

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Speaker 1: And like I said, but to all the guys that

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