1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: I missed you, girl. Girl, let me tell you something 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: I missed you too. Look at that tricept though you 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: like that? Yeah, I mean for a guy that doesn't 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: even lift anymore, you got a nice try try I 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: left a little bit. I left a little bit. Now, 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: you said you're just doing Pelton, but you're not like 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: curling iron. Oh No, I got a couple of weights 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: that I curl every now and then, just to you know, 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: keep my ship quick. Oh. I just thought you were 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: doing you were you were on a quarantine trip where 11 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: you were just like Cardio nothing else. No, I thought 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: you were about to say carbs and nothing else. Yeah, 13 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing that too though. By the way, a lot 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: of love, a lot of love for the first animation 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: we put out. I love it. I love it, and 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: it's so funny. It's only thirty seconds, but I've watched 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: it like nine hundred times. Yeah, it's like when we 18 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: first heard the when we first heard the theme song. 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Remember how crazy we were going for the theme song 20 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: when we first heard it. For those of you don't know, 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: um this company, Cartooner Radio is an animation company in Brooklyn, 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: and they did an animation of a moment of Donald 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: and O my podcast of this podcast, and um, they 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: just you know, tagged us on Instagram and we thought 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: it was so funny. We hit them up and said, 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: you know, can we work out a situation where we'll 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: obviously pay you, but will you do like some quick 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: little thirty second moments from the podcast. And they thought 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that was awesome, and so now we were starting to 30 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: roll some of them out. In the first one we 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: just put on our Instagram today, although um, this was, 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: this was, this was, this will be like a week, 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: this will be a few this will be like a 34 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: week week later. But anyway, they did the moment with 35 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: Donald giving Jeff Zucker noogies and the animation is so funny. Dude, 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: your eyes are all fun blood shot dude, Like they 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: knew I smoked that shit and they knew I drank 38 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: that shit that night. Well, we did talk about how 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: fucked up we were, yeah, but I didn't talk about 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: how I smoked that shit. Like when you when you drink, 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: your eyes don't get red like that. They made pink. 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: But you know what they got Maybe they're listening and 43 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: they got because another episode I mentioned how when you're 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: hammered you have like this this. What do you call this? 45 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: When you do this? It's a high step. I got 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: that ship from you, though, dude, right anyway, just a 47 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: drunk high step. And then when they in the animation, 48 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: when you're headed over to Zooker, you're like, get over here. 49 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: That shit's hilarious. What's funny out out and what I 50 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: love about On Instagram, I'm sure they're doing it on 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: yours too. People are like saying, Oh, you gotta do 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: this moment, Oh you gotta do the washcloth to be 53 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do this. They are doing that. What's crazy 54 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: is it? I think you need to tell each and 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: every one of your followers that you demand that they 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: follow me or fuck off, because I would never curse 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: of my followers, don't. I don't listen. I look at 58 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: what your numbers are, and I look at what my 59 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: numbers are on Instagram, And I gotta be honest with you, 60 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little jealous, dude, like little Jeller. You're assuming 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: that they're all scrubs, folks. They might be some people 62 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: that love Garden State and uh and and so where 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: are my clueless people at? Huh? Where am I remember 64 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: that tightens people at? Where are my mother fucking I'm 65 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: telling you right now, where are my mother fucking waiting 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: to exhale? People at where my kids ran? Some people 67 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: at where my tripping? People at where Sabrina Listen. I 68 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: gotta put it out there, man, because where they at 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: they need to represent your Homie Spimoni people. Random, Homie 70 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Spemoni where my next day are people at? Yo? Come 71 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: on now. Homie Spimoni is a film that Donald made. Um. 72 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: It's basically the plot of The Jerk, except instead of 73 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: a white baby being dropped off at a black family's home, 74 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: Donald's a black baby that's dropped off at an Italian 75 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: family's home. Right, No, no no, no, I'm not even dropped off. 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: They they literally kidnapped me pretty much o the kidnap. Yeah. 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: They find me floating in the river in Italy and 78 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the mom kidnaps me like like Moses. Uh, well yeah, 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I guess so, but Moses was you know, wasn't Moses 80 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: put in a basket and yeah, try to escape? Yes? 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Do I have my old Testament? Right? Um? We didn't 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: they put Moses and the wife yeah, no, Moses putting Yeah, 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: and then Para's wife found found. I went to Hebrew 84 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: school now, Donald, I have a question for you, Um, 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Homie s Pimoni for those of you who don't know 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Whoppie Goldberg and the Great Paul, the Great Paul Mooney. 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: Now do you rock? You do an Italian New York accent? Right? 88 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Give us a sa you want to hear a sample 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: of my This is the character right, listener right, my 90 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: name's Renato, all right, and this is how we do 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: things where I'm from. Okay, It's very simple. It's almost 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: like a New York accent too. It's like, you know, 93 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot. It was a lot thicker back 94 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: in the day when I was doing it. It was 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: so hard like it was thick, you know. Um, Jamie 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Lynn Siegler, right, yes, yes, your love interest. She was 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: my love interest on it. She's like you sound like 98 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: the guys I grew up with. Oh, that's a compliment 99 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: because it was a compliment. I think she's a Jersey girl, 100 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: is she? I don't know. They got a lot of 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Italians in Jersey. Listen, I gotta tell you something. I've 102 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: never seen that movie, but I dude, you've never seen 103 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: anything I've been now. I've seen a lot of bullshit, man. 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: I remember I showed you. Fucking remember the time. I 105 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: was like, yo, just watch remember the Titans on the Plane. 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: You got halfway through it and you were like, I mean, no, 107 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: it's cool. That's not a true story. That's not a 108 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: true story. I'm gonna watch that film because I know 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: how much people love it, and I love Denzel Um. 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: I love so you've never seen remember the Titans. I 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: have never seen Remember the Titans. See that's what I'm 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about, right there, guy. But you didn't read the 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: Garden State script, so fuck off. But I saw the 114 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Garden State script and I read it. You don't even 115 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: didn't even hold the script in your hand. Yeah I did. 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I know. I said I would like you to read this, 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and you said, are there any black people in it? 118 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: And I said there's two, but you're not right for them. 119 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: And I already cast method Man And you said that 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm not That's right. I do. That is true. But 121 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: I will tell you this, what dick, What a dick, dude. 122 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Remember the Titan. You know I'm gonna 123 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: watch it tonight. We're looking for a movie for tonight. Yeah, 124 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: please do all right, I'm telling you right now, I'm 125 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna lay it down. I'm gonna lay down the law. 126 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: You know you have? Where my kick Ass two? People at? Yo? 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Where y'all at kick Ass two? If you Donald's and 128 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Kickasso Donald's? Now I'm talking about Donald. Where y'all at? Oh, 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: you're circling back to Instagram. Well, Donald, I'm sorry that 130 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: you're upset about this, but the good not upset. I'm 131 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: just a little jealous. Well, I think that you should 132 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: give some love to the people that are following you 133 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: and so they don't feel like what we don't matter 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: to you, Donald, No, they definitely matter you. People that 135 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: are following me right now. I love you. I love you. Yes, 136 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: you are special to me and we together are building 137 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: a great foundation and an institution. But what is necessary 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: right now is for you to tell your friends that 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand isn't enough. Tell your friends, tell your wife. Listen. 140 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Today's a very special episode of this show because today's 141 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: the first time we're having on as our guest someone 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: who was not on the show. Him Um, someone who 143 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the show, but I wanted 144 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: to have him on. We wanted to have him on 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: because he's an incredible writer and amongst many things that 146 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: he's written, He's written a self published book about Scrubs 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: that I'm going to promote many many times. It's called 148 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: where do You Think We Are? And it's ten illustrated 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: essays about Scrubs and was written by sch Serrano and 150 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: it was illustrated by Arto Torres and it is really awesome. 151 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: And he is, I don't know how well you know 152 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Shade Donald. We'll get We're gonna get him on before 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: you tell me anything about how you well you know him? 154 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: But I follow him on Twitter and he's very entertaining. 155 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know him well before we 156 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: get into that five six, seven, eight stories about show 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: we made about a bunch of nurses stories. Yea, yeah, here, 158 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: wait for it. There he is wait fresh cutting, everything 159 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: is fresh there. Oh man, it's so nice to finally 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: meet you. I am I am like one of your 161 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: one of your many many Twitter followers, and I feel 162 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: like I know you. But it's so nice to finally 163 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: meet in person. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm really excited to 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: be here. I've been I've been waiting on hold since 165 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: twelve in the afternoon for three hours now, just for 166 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: that don't want I don't want to miss it. I 167 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: didn't want to miss this one. You know what, You've 168 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: been sitting there. You've been sitting there. We didn't put 169 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: you on hold. You just this was like a self 170 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: proclaim hole. Yes, he want he didn't want to fuck 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: up Donald. So he's been sitting there with his mic Now, Sha, 172 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: before you say anything, I gotta tell you. I was 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: doing research for the show on you because I know 174 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: you for being very popular on Twitter. I encourage you 175 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: to follow Sha and we'll get his handle out before 176 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: the show ends. But he I'm reading all about you 177 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: and your career is amazing. But I'm I started reading 178 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: like he wrote. Uh. This second book was called the 179 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: Rap Yearbook, the most important rap song from every year 180 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine. Then he's got another book called 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Basketball and Other Things, that Obama said was one of 182 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: his favorite things. And then he's got another And I'm 183 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: sitting here going I'm gonna lose Donald phaseon to share 184 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: like I'm sitting here being like this this was a 185 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: bad idea. The man has written best selling books on 186 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: rap and basketball and I'm gonna lose him. And you 187 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: know what, I love and you know what I love. 188 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: Oh shit, you know what. What's what's funny is is uh, 189 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I got a chance. I met Donald one time. I 190 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember. I do remember. I remember 191 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: that I look the stook before I even read the book. 192 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh you read it, Okay, I didn't read the whole thing. Yeah, so, 193 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: but before before I even knew that it existed, Zach 194 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: was like you were coming on and I look you 195 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: up on uh, I googled you, and I was like, oh, 196 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I met this dude. I met this dude. And when 197 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: I was going to do first take, I thought you 198 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: were going to do first take that day. Also, but 199 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: I also met you. Your wife was with you, right, 200 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: that's your wife. Yeah, and she and I got to 201 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 1: talk a little bit more than you and I did. 202 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: But I, I mean, and then I read the essay 203 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: and you made it seem like you were like all crazy, 204 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: like holy shit, holy shit, you got a little bit 205 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: cooler than that. Now my head his head, Yeah, absolutely, 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: inside of my head. It's only been a few times 207 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: in my life. I was starstruck. But it was me 208 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Denzel Washington and Minael Jordan. I know, I know, I know, 209 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching you walk in that room. I don't know 210 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: if it's because I was surprised or because I had 211 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: just finished, Like I was already working on the Scrubs thing, 212 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: so I had gone through the whole series again, whatever 213 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: it was. But yeah, when you walked in there, I 214 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: was like, holy fucking shit, Like I was trying so 215 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: hard not to not to wig out. You took you 216 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: were there for You were there for a book, right, 217 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: you were there for another book, but it was it 218 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the rap book. It was the basketball book right now? 219 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Was the basketball one? Came out in twenty seventeen October 220 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: of last year. I did movies and other things, movies, 221 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: and so that's when I was. I was in New York, um, 222 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, doing all the press stuff. Okay, I'm sorry 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: before we talk. This is what's gonna happen. This is 224 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: my nightmare, right Joel. They just suddenly they turned my 225 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: mic down and they just go off. Well, I just 226 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: wanted to get into the basketball thing. You said, Mike, 227 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: you think my game would be more like like you 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: imagine my game being like PJ. Tucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with that. I'm gonna I knew it. 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with that. I'd watched enough. Yeah yeah, yeah, 231 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: a lot of jump shots, some defense, very competitive and 232 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: talks a lot of shit. Yeah that's me. That's I 233 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: wish I had a little bit of a you know, 234 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: a silkier game. I wish my game was more like 235 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Clay Thompson. But PJ. Tucker was spot on. Man, he's 236 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: a he's a great Uh. I don't even know if 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: you would consider him a role player. He's just like 238 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: a glue guy, right, Yeah, he's in a central player 239 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: on that on that Rockets team. I lived in Laramy 240 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: and I lived in Houston for fourteen years, so we 241 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: were there like when he showed up. And then he's 242 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: one of those guys who, like, if you go to 243 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: the city where he's playing, everybody there just fucking loves him. Yeah, 244 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: because of all this stuff he does. Yeah, Now, Shay, 245 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: I have a question. Do you know do you have 246 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: your book? Like could Donald about your rap book? And 247 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Shay is m Everything he writes becomes a best seller, 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: including um the Rap Yearbook, the most important rap song 249 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: from every year since nineteen seventy nine, discussed, debated, and deconstructed. 250 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: Billboard said this was one of the best hundred best 251 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: music books of all time, which holy shit, man, congratulations 252 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: on an accomplishment like that, un round of thunderous applause. Yeah, Dan, 253 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: please put in some thunder supause. You won't hear it, Shay, 254 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: so just imagine it. It's just it's like a stadium crazy. 255 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: You listen to the podcast, right, Shay. I've seen you 256 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: on so you know you know how Dan really brings 257 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the thunder supplause. Um. Now, Shay, if Donald were to say, 258 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: because Donald loves rap, if you were to like mention 259 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: a year, you don't have this memorize, right, or do you? 260 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Because if he would just say, like if Donald were 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: to be like, all right, ninety seven, would you be like, oh, 262 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: this is what I wrote about that I believe, so 263 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: ninety seven is is puff daddy? If I'm not mistaken. Um, 264 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: I want to say, you can look it up. It's 265 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: so good. As as sad as I am about how 266 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: much how well you guys are hitting it off. I 267 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: just feel like, once this rap conversation starts, It'll be 268 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: Donald's favorite conversation in the world because he really really 269 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: loves rap, Like as long as I've known him. Yeah, 270 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 1: it's the best music in the world. It was a 271 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: can't Nobody hold Me Down? Can't know? Okay with him 272 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: and with him and Mace. Yeah, Okay, that was one 273 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: because because that was when when when rap had like 274 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: they were doing the whole shiny suit thing. It was 275 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: like it became all about opulence and much High Williams 276 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: and the High Williams a mint music videos, right that 277 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: those ones came a little bit. Yeah, right around then, 278 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: I remember around ninety seven, I just picked Nobody hold 279 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: Me Down? Was High Williams. Yeah, because I was when 280 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: I was peeing fresh out of college. I was peeing 281 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: on rap videos in New York and I don't really 282 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: know the music that well, but I remember like Hype 283 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Williams was a god at the time. And that's right 284 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: around the time all those Mace Puffy videos were coming out. 285 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: That was the one way they went in the desert, right, 286 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: And uh, isn't j Low in it too? Yeah? She's 287 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: in that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, Donald, do 288 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: you want to pick a year now that he's got 289 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: it up? Just pick us a year? I mean, but 290 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, ninety two, that's a hard one. Nineteen 291 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: ninety two. Oh, like I don't have I don't have 292 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the book up. I was just thinking the song i't 293 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: mean to put you on I don't mean to put 294 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: you on the spot. I just wondered if you knew. 295 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: But I will say I know, like I know, ninety 296 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: two was nothing but a g thing. Wow, Yeah, there 297 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: was a lot, Right, that's a great, great record, man, Right, 298 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: that's really really good. That Chronic was one of Oh 299 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: my gosh, man, there were a lot of great albums 300 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: that came out, though. I feel like in ninety two, 301 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that was a yeah, I graduated, 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I think from high school. I'm pretty I liked that 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: song roll down the Street smoking and sipping on gin 304 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: and juice. So that's not the doggiest style album. And 305 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: there's like there's like a constant debate between which is 306 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: a better G funk album, between between the Chronic and 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: doggest Style both the dope man, pick one, pick one? 308 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Which one do you want to listen to right now? Shit? Man? 309 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Well because no, because what happened is with hold do 310 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: what happened is yeah, it's hard man, because Doggie Style, 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Nate Dog, all these cats are on that record. Man, 312 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: it's hard because you know, I take it back, I 313 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: go chronic. Just because of deep Cover. I could feel 314 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: it heard that. I remember when deep Cover of the 315 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: movie came out and that song was on the deep 316 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Cover soundtrack, and my boy played me that shit and 317 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: we listened to that ship over. We listened to that 318 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: song over and over and over again, and this is 319 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: before the beat with East Coast West Coast stuff, and 320 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: it was just like, Yo, this is the this is 321 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: the dopest thing I ever heard in my life. Yeah. 322 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: It's one of those one of those moments where you like, 323 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: I've never heard something like this. Yeah, here's snoop sort 324 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: of lillygagging out into the song, like who is this guy? Yeah? 325 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah that and the beat was fucking fire and the 326 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: fucking and then the cook was yeah, and you don't 327 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: stop because it's one night seven on it, Undercover cop. 328 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: That should make a documentary about this, because I read 329 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: that there was talking of it. Did they ever make 330 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: it a documentary about of your book? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 331 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: So what happened is a production company got the rights 332 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: for it, and then we signed up with the Roots. 333 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: They became like executive producers on it, and then they 334 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: sold it to We sold a series to AMC and 335 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: they did a six episode thing where it was like 336 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: six episodes. Each episode was about one particular song. They're 337 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: an hour long, and so it became like a video over. 338 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: It was really cool. I got to go out to 339 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: New York. They did like a concert, The Roost did 340 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: a concert before the and then they showed the The 341 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: one of the episodes is the one that they did 342 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: on Jesus Walks, and it was it was really really 343 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: cool to what's so cool? Because as I'm listening to 344 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: you talk about it, I mean, I just think it 345 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: would be such an amazing I can understan why I'd 346 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: be amazing series. I wouldn't check that out. I definitely 347 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: it was great, you know what his need is. So 348 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: they we got all signed up and they like, we 349 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: sold the series and they started working on it, and 350 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: they gave me a phone call and they're like, hey, 351 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: do you want to call in and like we're brainstorming 352 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: and helping out doing whatever. And I said, oh, yeah, yeah, 353 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: like that'd be cool because I like I know a 354 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: lot about REP we're doing this whole thing. And I 355 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: called in and Black Thought and quest Lever both in there. 356 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: And like everything that somebody brought up, like I had 357 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: like a third hand story, like oh yeah, I heard 358 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: a story about a party that happened at this thing. 359 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: And no matter what it was, quest lever Black thought 360 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: they were like, oh yeah, I was at that party. 361 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I wrote to I don't want to I don't want 362 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: to help anymore, Like yeah, guys, clearly you got this. 363 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna fall back. That's amazing. Yeah, you know, 364 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I've been at some places like where crazy things happened, 365 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: like and I was just I just happened to be 366 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: there when the things happened, like you know what I mean, 367 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Like I was at the party where Biggie got killed. 368 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: You know what you were? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah did 369 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: you did you? Did you hear? Like yeah, I heard guns. 370 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I was outside, so I heard the gunshots. I also 371 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: I spoke to him before all of it happened. Oh shit, 372 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: you never told me this. You saved this for shape, dude. 373 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: You're not a hip hop You're not a hip hop 374 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: but I mean I'm not a hip hop dude, but 375 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm a pop culture fan. You could have told me 376 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: you were at that event. Yeah, dude, I was at 377 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: that event event, and I spoke to him, and then 378 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: the next morning I found out he was there. I 379 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: actually found out that night that he had gotten shot. 380 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Somebody came around the corner and told me, you know, yo, 381 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: they just fucking got bigg and I was like, get 382 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. I remember telling Ricky Bell 383 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: from Bell Bib de Vote and he was like, shut 384 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: the fuck up, dude, you don't know what you're talking about. 385 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: And then the next morning my boy Dion Richmond called 386 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: me up on the phone and was like, Yo, they 387 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: killed Big last night. And I was like holy and 388 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, holy shit. I was there, dude. 389 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: I was. I spoke to him right before. You know 390 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. I've did this couple of instances, like 391 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I was at Nell's the night all that shit went 392 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: down with Tupac and the girl on the dance floor 393 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Like I was at I was 394 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: at the club hanging out with my friends and stuff 395 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: like that, and I was there like just a bunch 396 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: of things. Man, it's weird. It's it's My connection to 397 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: hip hop runs deep, man. I love I love it 398 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: so much. And when I was when I was younger, 399 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: I would be you would frequently find me at some 400 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: of these events that were considered you know, later on 401 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: that were considered iconic or pivotal moments in artists careers, 402 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: especially in Tupacs and bigs. Those were two big moment. 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: One one was the death of one and one was 404 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: where everybody started looking at somebody as a true troublemaker, 405 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: which was bullshit, but that was that was what. From 406 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: that moment on, Tupacs lane shifted from you know, actor 407 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: rapper to activists to you know, his whole run with 408 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: death Row and the whole East Coast, West Coast Beef 409 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. A lot of it stemmed 410 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: from that moment. Do you think it even? Do you 411 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: think any I wasn't that I wasn't. I don't know 412 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: what right? Right? You know, like that butterfly effect thing 413 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: where one thing happens and then it causes everything to happen. Right, 414 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: If I take myself out of the equation, everyone would 415 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: have got everybody would have got Donald. Donald like bumped 416 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: into some waiter who then got in a bad mood 417 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: and was rude to Tupac, and all of a sudden, 418 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: all this shit happened because Donald did do I do 419 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: either of y'all follow a rider named chio Hadari Coker. No, Okay, 420 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: so he like works on a ton of stuff, but 421 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: he like worked on the biggie movie um Low Riders 422 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Creed too, like a bunch of the stuff that I liked. 423 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: I started following him. But just today he was talking 424 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: about I think it was today, maybe might have been 425 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: last night or yesterday, but he was talking about when 426 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: when Tupac did Juice, and he was saying, like when 427 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: he got the role of Bishop, which was like the 428 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: guy who causes all the trouble in it. Um, like 429 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: that was the beginning of his like gangster rapper, Like 430 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: it set him on that path, right, and like that's 431 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: just crazy to think about. Like I was a little 432 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: thing like that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I was. 433 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: I was in Juice. I had a really tiny role 434 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: in that movie. And the one thing I remember the 435 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: most about that movie was the premier and after seeing it, 436 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: and you know, Tupac walking into the it was like 437 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: it lows on forty second Street or something like that. 438 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: It was in Times Square, I remember that, and he 439 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: walked into the area where everybody was being let out 440 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: of the movie, and it felt like he had like 441 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: the glow around like the Bruce Leroy glow around him, man, 442 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: because you just knew at that moment he was out 443 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: of him and yeah, he was just out here. That's 444 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: when I became a fan of his, you know what 445 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Like as an actor, I you know, checked 446 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: on his stuff all the time, all of the movies 447 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: he made and stuff like that. When I was younger, 448 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking he's a better actor than he is 449 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: a rapper. Dude. I remember thinking that that's like an 450 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: argument you could honestly, legitimately make, like he was unbelievable 451 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: as an actor. Yeah, yeah, he was a very good actor. 452 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: So Shaye, tell us like how you came to Scrubs 453 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: and wrote this book, because I just I was so 454 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: moved by a lot of it. I mean, it's funny 455 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: your book, but also there's moments I was reading and 456 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: would that would give me goosebumps? Could you articulate moments 457 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: and Scrubs sometimes I think better than moments and Scrubs 458 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: even were right? And I know, I mean, and I 459 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that. We love what a fan you are. And 460 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: I was reading something you wrote about the episode we're 461 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: going to talk about today my occurrence and I got 462 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: goosebumps when you wrote it. It was about it was 463 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: about when I find out that Brandon Frazier's character has 464 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: leukemia and Judy's standing there, and I'm not bullshitting you. 465 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: When I rewatched the episode today, it was even more 466 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: moving to me. It was really unique. It was a 467 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: really unique experience because I don't even remember the moment 468 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: And then I read your essay in his book where 469 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Do You Think We Are? And it gave me goosebumps. 470 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: And then I rewatched the moment today and I was 471 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: so much more moved by it because I had your backstory. 472 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: So so I encourage you, if you're a Scrubs fan, 473 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: to get this book. But anyway, I just wanted to know. 474 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: It's a long question, but how did you come to Scrubs? 475 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: And then how did you come to write this book. 476 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: I came to Scrubs late. This was this was back 477 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: when it was on Netflix, so it's a few you know, 478 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: several years ago. I didn't I had never really I 479 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: didn't watch it when it was like on an ABC 480 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: or MBC or anything like that. But I started catching 481 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: it when I think it showed up. I got in 482 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: a Comedy Central or you know, you know, on one 483 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: of those like cable channels. I was like, this is 484 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: this is like a cool show, but there was no 485 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: way to like rewatch the whole thing. You just catch 486 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: whatever episodes you can, and then it popped up on 487 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: Netflix and Laramie, my wife, she also likes the shows 488 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: who were like, oh, let's like I haven't seen like 489 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: the first four seasons or something, let's sit down and 490 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: watch it. And so you like that's how it started, 491 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: was a few years ago, and then it just became 492 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: one of those shows that we watched our whole way 493 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: through it. We like fell in love with everybody on there. 494 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: And it was one of the ones where it's like 495 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: it's been a long day and I needed like unwind 496 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: and relax and I need to like feel some emotions 497 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: of some sort. So let me put but this one 498 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: on because I think I wrote this in a thing, 499 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: but I think Scrubs is the best TV show ever 500 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: at like balancing between those two worlds. You'll talk about 501 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: it a lot of the time, like how hard of 502 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: a transition that is to make from going from something 503 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: like totally silly and like ridiculous immediately into something just 504 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: outlandish or you know, like crazy serious. Um. So that's 505 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: how we started watching that show, and it just became 506 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: like like a ritual. Every so often we're like, we're 507 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: going to restart Scrubs again and we're gonna watch it, 508 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: and then that's gonna be like what we do. Right. 509 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I love it And you and your wife getting debates 510 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: about the show. I saw and part of the book 511 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: is an email conversation you have about whether or not 512 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: she likes JD or not. Yea, And I really appreciated 513 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: your point of view more than because Larmie Laramie loves 514 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: the show, but it's JD's not her favorite character. And 515 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: I appreciated Jay debating why he should be. Yeah, yeah, 516 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: that's like yeah. So that we started watching the show, 517 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: and I realized, like you watch a show, and depending 518 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: on like who you are, the type of person you are, 519 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: you just watched it a little bit different than everybody else. 520 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: And I realized at some point that we were very 521 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: much watching the show differently. I was watching it waiting 522 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: for like the JD moment to happen, when you like 523 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: make your eyes water or you like say a thing 524 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: real seriously, and she was watching it for like for 525 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: like a Turk and Carlos situation or a doctor Cox 526 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: situation or whatever, and so like, well we should, you know, 527 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about this a little bit. And uh, my favor, 528 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: my favor. I was skimming through the book because you know, 529 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: I'm not but I don't take it personally. He skimmed 530 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: through the scripts for the fucking episodes. I'm not one. 531 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a great reader. And my attentions, my my 532 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: attention focused on to if j D and Turk were 533 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: to ever do a buddy cop movie, what would it be? 534 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: And you go through a bunch of a bunch of 535 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: lists of what movies and I immediately went for running 536 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Scared with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hinds, Like that's the 537 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: immediate one I went to. And I was like, I 538 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: bet you he doesn't have that on the list, And 539 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: sure enough, it's right there on the lists. Over the years, 540 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: we've always talked about it's never happened but so far, 541 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: but we've always talked about wanting to do a buddy 542 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: cop or buddy movie of some kind together. Um. I 543 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: was obsessed with trying to do like a Spies like 544 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Us thing because I thought Donald and I could really do. 545 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: We both love playing guy wiyhing over his head and 546 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: the idea, and like, I mean, I don't want to. 547 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: I would never dare to attempt to remake Spies Like 548 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Us because I love that movie. But the premise of that, 549 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: like two spies that are fuck ups that get in 550 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: way over their head. I thought Donald and I would 551 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: be really funny yet, but um, but it's funny. I 552 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: don't that you wrote a section in the book about that, 553 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: because Donald and I always talked about wanting to do 554 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, but like, yeah, go ahead, man, 555 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: oh I was gonna say, that's how you could tell. 556 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I had just finished up the movie 557 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: book at the same time I was doing the Scrubs thing, 558 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: and I had rewatched all of it like buddy cop movies, 559 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, this is like this makes 560 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: too much sense, doesn't work. It does make sense, man, 561 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: I think Turk and j D would And and it 562 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: really comes through Zach on the episode your first episode 563 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: that you directed, where we're doing the whole Heather Gram thing. 564 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: It really comes through there, like that's a buddy cop 565 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: movie or a buddy comedy in itself right there. These 566 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: two dudes go on to adventure and it's a silly 567 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: one too, so his boy can get some ass, you 568 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's with a letter from Eliot. Actually, 569 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Sha wrote you wrote that in the in the book 570 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: a little bit too, because you're talking about Molly Shannon's 571 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: character in that episode, and that's one of my favorite 572 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: episodes ever. I uh, we bring it up a lot 573 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: because it was a pivotal moment for me because it 574 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: was the first one I got to direct, and it 575 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: was it was epic and Donald and I went on 576 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: a quest that all took place over in one night. 577 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: You know. For budget, most of the time we would 578 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, be confined to the hospital with with going 579 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: out a little bit here there. But uh, you know, 580 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: it's very expensive to bring a full film crew out 581 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: into the real world. And and sometimes what Bill would 582 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: do is he'd sort of save up, so we'd we'd 583 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: have episodes that were mostly contained to the world of 584 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: the hospital, and then he'd use the budget money he'd 585 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: save then we'd do like a big ass one. That's 586 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: why they'd be like the Wizard of Oz or the 587 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: Medieval Times one or this one with Heather where we 588 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: were you know, out all night long. Yeah, Um, I 589 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, Shay. I wanted to say, just 590 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: before we get in the episode, Um, I really even 591 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: impressed by how hard you hustle and work. And you know, 592 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: we're both on Twitter. We're all on Twitter, and I 593 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: always see a lot of writers asking you for advice 594 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: and how do I do it. I'm just so impressed 595 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: with how hard you work. You write your ass off, 596 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: you then go off and you really talk to your 597 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: followers and say, hey, support the cause I'm here working 598 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: my ass off and I made a thing I think 599 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna like. And I don't know, I just I'm 600 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: I've always been impressed by how hard you work. And 601 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if you, if you wanted to speak to 602 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: that for for anyone, it could be about anyone trying 603 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: to go after their dream, but you you particularly do 604 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: it with your writing. Yeah, well, I think that's that's 605 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: probably like an extension of several different things. We grew up. 606 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: We live in San Antonio now, but I grew up 607 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: like on the other side of town. We were like 608 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: real poor. You know, nobody was like finishing school or 609 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: anything like that. So like that's always in the back 610 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: of my head, like if shit goes wrong or if 611 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: I make like a few mistakes, we could fall all 612 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: the way back there. So that's that's part of it. Um. 613 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: But also like in the in the case of the 614 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: the Scrubs thing, like this was a thing that I 615 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: was publishing independently, though is you weren't going to find 616 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: that in bookstores. The only way anybody was going to 617 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: find out about it was directly through me at the 618 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: at the start of it, you know, So like, I'm 619 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: not gonna just sit there and cross my fingers and 620 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: hope somebody like bats their way into it. Yeah. Not. 621 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to be like the guys at 622 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: the at the fucking mall that comes spraying you with 623 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: a few you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm I'm 624 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: gonna be that. I'm gonna be that kind of salesperson, 625 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: or the guys in New York with the rap album 626 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: they always trying to get you to buy their strong Dude, 627 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: that's the strongest hustle level, because there's a part of 628 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: that hustle. It's also like strong arming you too. Yeah, 629 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: I always do it. I always do it because I 630 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: feel so bad by the time you've walked two blocks 631 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: with them, you're like, too, okay, okay, you're slick. There's 632 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: say they're smart. They're like, hey, hold this for me 633 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: real quick. And then you hold it and they're like, 634 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: all right, that's seven dollars, Like what the fuck even? 635 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't even I wasn't even I wasn't even trying 636 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: to buy it, dude. But they're the best salesman, those guys, 637 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: because by the time you've walked a block with them, you're, yeah, yeah, 638 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: I do need to hear this. You're right, that does 639 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: sound good. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes it's like, dog, just give 640 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: me the ship. But then they're like, Donald, come on, Donald, 641 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: keep it real. Donald, I've seen this is what I 642 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: hate because I get a lot of this. I've seen 643 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: you in the movies. Dog, don't let me. Don't fucking 644 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: let me down. Now, I didn't let you down. Don't 645 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: let me down. All right? Well, I always think, you know, 646 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: in my career, the things I've done that you know, 647 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: you have to put yourself out there. You have to really, 648 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, I've write my own stuff. You get turned 649 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: down one hundred times, and you just got to keep 650 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: going and keep fighting for it. Keep believing yourself. And 651 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons I really like 652 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: what you say and do on on Twitter, because you 653 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: do a lot of philanthropic things as well. But you're 654 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: also someone who's just like, I'm going to do this 655 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: on my own. Sometimes sometimes a publisher will publish it. 656 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll publish it, but like I'm always going to 657 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: be doing my own hustle, which I really appreciate. Yeah, 658 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you very much. So, guys, we're going 659 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: to the episode. But UM, go buy Shay's book. It's 660 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: called go to the website Sacred Heart Gang dot com. Correct, 661 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: if you go to sacred If you go to Sacred 662 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Heart Gang dot com, you can buy the book. It's 663 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: a pdf you can download. It's twenty bucks. It's really 664 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: worth it. It's amazing. I've seen some people on online 665 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: or are printing it out and kind of making their 666 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: own their own book out of it. But UM, support 667 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: independent writers. He's self published this with amazing illustrations by 668 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Arturo Torres, and I can't I really recommend it if 669 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: you're a Scrubs fan. Um, it's it's very very entertaining parts. 670 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Donald skimmed, he love can we talk about the illustrations 671 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, illustration they kind of looked like the 672 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: New York Times. I'm not the New York Times the 673 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. When they draw the pictures like they 674 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: look like when somebody sits in front of you and 675 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: poses and stuff like, they're very they're very lifelike, almost 676 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: like yeah, kind of kind of like a portrait. Yeah. Absolutely, yes, so, 677 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: especially the one with Brendan Frasier on the for the 678 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: title of the book. You know what I mean with 679 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: the inside when you get to that moment and you 680 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: even say, at that moment, I didn't want to talk 681 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: about that, you know, I hate talking about this, and 682 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Zach you before we get into the store, I wanted 683 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: to say this. Also it made also me watching the 684 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: episode again, it made it more impactful for me because one, 685 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: I knew how it was going to work out the 686 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: way you laid it out in the book. I knew 687 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: how it was gonna end up, not only because I 688 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: was in it, but because of that. But um, but 689 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: but it made it more impactful because what the way 690 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: you described all of what was happening, Uh, you really 691 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: told the story. Well that's my point. You know, that's 692 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: good writing. When you're like when when when you he's 693 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: he's he's writing his thoughts on something we were a 694 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: part of. And I never had this experience before. I mean, 695 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: I guess occasionally when someone writes a good review of 696 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: something you've done, maybe it's similar. But you're writing his 697 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: thoughts on this moment, and it made the moment for 698 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: me as a part of it more impactful. I thought 699 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: that was really And then even where and then even 700 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: where it stems from how you bring it back to 701 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: the episode where we lose you know, where one in 702 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: three patients die when they go into the hospital and 703 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,239 Speaker 1: everything like that, how you connect the This is how 704 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: Scrubs fucks you up. They fuck you up by making 705 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: you think you know everything's all right, everything's all right, 706 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: everything's all right, and then just when you're feel like 707 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: you're out of the woods and you're safe, they drop 708 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: the fucking hammer on you. You know what I mean. 709 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is how good Shay's writing is. 710 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: He preempted Brendan Frasier being on this podcast. So I 711 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: want you to know, Shay that we and I'm telling 712 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: anouncing to the fans right here and now that the 713 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: next episode will have Brendan Frasier on this podcast. That's perfect. 714 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: That's perfect. Um, so we want SHA's gonna come on 715 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk through Brendan Frasier's first episode. Then 716 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: in the next episode, we're gonna have Brendan Frasier come 717 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: on and uh and talk about it, and then UH 718 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: will eventually, I guess it's season three, we'll get to 719 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: uh to the big one. That's a lot of people's 720 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: favorite episode of all time. This also when Brendan spoiler 721 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: alert dies, This also is kind of a it's precursor 722 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: the right word to that episode. Like this whole episode 723 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: pretty much is a dream dude that I didn't even 724 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: remember that by the way, you know what I mean? Yeah, 725 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: a lot of foreshadowing, right, I I didn't remember that either. 726 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: And I've truly went on this journey with j D 727 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: through this whole episode of him trying to, you know, 728 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: rationalize why this Oh this is a false positive test. 729 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: This test isn't it's not to co They're fucking up 730 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: all day. Yeah. I even made a note, and I 731 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: even made a note, Wow, Sacred Heart is making a 732 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. Yeah. Yeah. And also, by the way, 733 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: first of all. I was so fucking uncomfortable with Judy 734 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: hitting on me, and I didn't remember that at all, 735 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: but because Donald's my best friend in the world, I 736 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: was nervous that his TV wife was hitting me. I 737 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, my stomach was getting uncomfortable. 738 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: And then I noticed the very subtle thing. I don't 739 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: know if you guys noticed this, because I'm just very 740 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: aware of the cinematography. I don't know if it was 741 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Larry Trilling who directed by We mentioned that Bill Lawrence 742 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: wrote this one and Larry Trilling, one of our favorite directors, 743 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: directed it. And there was this weird, sort of a 744 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: very subtle filter on the camera for that fantasy, that 745 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: long dream sequence, and I didn't remember that it was 746 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: a dream sequence. I remember, like, Jesus, why is this. 747 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: It's usually a filter you you would reserve for a 748 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: close up of a woman of a certain age. We 749 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: wanted to maybe soften her wrinkles a little bit, or 750 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: her eyes. But if you go back and look, it's 751 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: on that whole sequence. And I was kind of like, 752 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: why is why is this filter on? Like what? And 753 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: then I was like this does look weird on my computer, 754 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: Like what's going on? And then when it was revealed 755 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: that the whole thing is a is a fantasy, I 756 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that was like a little subtle thing. 757 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: You know a lot. There's lots of little subtle things either, 758 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: but that's one thing I noticed with the cinematography. It 759 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: makes you want to go back and watch it again. 760 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: It's a good show. A good show. Thank you, thank you. 761 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: What I'm telling you when you get Chase, When you 762 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: guys get Chase's book, you're gonna want to when you 763 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: read his essays, then you want to go back and go, Okay, 764 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: now I gotta rewatch that episode with this with this 765 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: essay in mine. All right, we're gonna go to break 766 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: and we'll be right back and her back back. All right, 767 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna go into this episode. Guys, all right, I 768 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: got one thing to say when we start off, What 769 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: the fuck? How do why do we have like a 770 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: cheese plate with a meat cheese meat plate the size 771 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: of like when you go to a party at you 772 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's it's it's it's our 773 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: cheese and and and we and we got like the 774 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Ramps version of cheese and meat. It's like it's only 775 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: cheddar it's only cheddar and American and white white cheddar, 776 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: yellow cheddar and American cheese. And then it's the worst cheese, 777 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: beef turkey. It's cold cuts rolled up and when drinking 778 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: wine with that, and this is our and this is 779 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: our night out from the hospital. Yeah, it's a big 780 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: fancy man and Judy Carla says she got a nice 781 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: bottle of wine. And then Donald's right, if you freeze 782 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: frame at five seconds on the plate we're talking about, 783 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: it's basically cubes of cheddar and rolled up cold cuts. Well, 784 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the rationalization was that we didn't know we 785 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: were just we were like, we were so busy being doctors. 786 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: None of us are cooks, and we're like, oh, we're 787 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna have like an adult night. That's what we do. 788 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: They have. So this is a good example of like 789 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: one of the one of the reasons I like to 790 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: rewatch the show so much, because every time you rewatch it, 791 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna find like another little neat thinking there. So 792 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: I noticed that she's saying same same as y'all did 793 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: when I rewatched it yesterday, and I was like, the 794 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: only person in this room who is upset about the 795 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: situation or the setup is Carla, which makes sense because 796 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: she for that whole first season, second season's she's like 797 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: the adult in the room. Yeah, and the other and 798 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: and the other three are just sort of pretending to 799 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: be adults, so they think like this is what it's 800 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: supposed to look like. And probably probably probably Sha, probably 801 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: Turk and Uh and JD were probably tasked with getting 802 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: a nice tea yea, And we went to fucking the 803 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: supermarket where I got one of those brand route jobs. Meanwhile, 804 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: she went to the liquor store and bottom expensive bott 805 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: and then we still fucked it up for um, how about? 806 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel bad um the talking like JD 807 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: knowing so much about what celebrities are naked and what movies, 808 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: but it was pretty funny when he's like frontal and 809 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: touch to they have something like that on the Playboy. 810 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, never mind, this is obviously before a website 811 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: like this existed, so it does come up in the episode, 812 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think we should actively advertise them unless 813 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: you want to hear it. Let us know. Okay, hit up, 814 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: hit up Donald on his instagram, on me, hit me 815 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: up on my Instagram. Yeah, but you gotta find only 816 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: I'll only respond if you follow, but make sure you 817 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: follow him because he's very upset about his follower account. 818 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: But if you really, if you don't want to take 819 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the time to google it, just that on Instagram, Shay, 820 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: you want some of this, man, we could we can 821 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: hijack we can hijack some of Zach's followers, man and 822 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 1: get them on on teams. He's blowing up, Shay, share 823 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: some of yours with me, brother, yea, all right, one 824 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: day one twelve, I was kind of taken, and I 825 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: think this comes up in your essays if I'm not mistaken. 826 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: But we finally see Cox like someone. Yeah, right, you know, 827 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: it seems that he seems to never like anybody or 828 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: at least be snarky with anyone and everyone. This is 829 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: this is sort of the first time that he's really uh, 830 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: we see how much he genuinely is no bullshit. Has 831 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: a friend, Yeah, that's really It's really like an interesting 832 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: creation of a character is to put somebody in in 833 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: his orbit who just sort of takes away all of 834 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: his like protective armor immediately, like he has another friend. 835 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Later on the show, Michael Boatman's character Ron and when 836 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: he shows up and they're like clearly close friends. But 837 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: but at the same time they're like poking each other 838 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: in the eye every once in a while with something. 839 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: But Brendan Fraser's character Ben is the only time we 840 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: see him where he is just wide open and like 841 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: just having a good old time and he loves him. Yeah, 842 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very It really mirrors JD. And it's 843 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: like his Turk in a way. Um, just solely in 844 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: the fact that like they're on you know, they're hugging, 845 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: and they're and they're joking about hugging and um, and 846 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: they're just very they're being playing silly games, the thing 847 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: with the card on their head, and they're just like 848 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: they're unabashedly themselves. Yeah, all of all of the things 849 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: that doctor Cox says annoys him about JD. Yeah, the 850 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: things that Brent like he talks in the voices, he's 851 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: very affectionate, and I'm seeing like like, oh, this is 852 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: like you begin to understand. This is like why he 853 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: has such a fondness for JD is because he reminds 854 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: him of this count. That's great, Ja, I really love 855 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: that analysis. And I didn't see it, um, but it's funny. 856 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: I was I was watching Brendan Frasier's choice in this 857 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: character for the first time in twenty years, and he 858 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: is playing it very goofy and silly, and it's very 859 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: JD like. And it's funny that you say that that 860 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: I never thought of it like that. It's like you're seeing, 861 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: even though Cox has to keep it down because he 862 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: like has to be Cox to JD, there is there 863 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: must be some aspect of JD that reminds him of 864 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: his good buddy. You know, there's no question about it. 865 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: There's no question. Um. I like when I got the 866 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: bar one twenty three, when I go neat hug. Yeah, 867 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: what hu. This is something that kind of bugging me 868 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: the whole time we made this show, but later on hindsight, 869 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: being twenty twenty nowadays, it's I I wish, I'm so 870 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 1: happy that this happened. But Brendan Fraser brings a camera 871 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: into the episode and it's a polaroid camera, the old 872 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: school Paroi, old school polaroid camera. And I'm not sure 873 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: if we were doing this before or if this is 874 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: where it started, but because of this moment right here, 875 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: it's like I have polaroids from you know what I mean? Okay, 876 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: let's let's let's get into it, because I I was 877 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: wondering we have all of these memories on celluloid because 878 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: because of someone bringing a camera, and then it became 879 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: this is this where it began. Yeah, So here's the thing. 880 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: Krista Miller and I are both photographers as our hobby, 881 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: and we both are camera geeks. We love new cameras, 882 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: we love old cameras, will like send each other eBay 883 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: listings of cameras. She's a really a talented photographer and 884 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: I like to think I'm not too bad myself. When 885 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: Brendan Frasier came in, this was his real hobby, shooting 886 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: with these old school polaroids. As you guys see in 887 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: the in the in the movie that the kind of 888 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: polaroid film, not that just comes out automatically. You pull 889 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: it out and then you got it's like shake it 890 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: like a polaroid picture of these you actually did have 891 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,320 Speaker 1: to wait for a minute for them to cook, and 892 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: then you'd peel it off and there'd be a beautiful shot. 893 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: And this camera that he's shooting with was actually Brendan's 894 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: and he brought it in and of course and he 895 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: was taking pictures all the pictures you see at the 896 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: end of the episode in that tin that he has, 897 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: We're all shot by him over the course of his 898 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: week hanging out with us, and then Krista and I 899 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: of course got so into it. We're like, oh my god, 900 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: we gotta get one of those. Where do we buy him? 901 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: And then over the years, Donald that you have a 902 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of Polaroid pictures, because I have a bunch of 903 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: these cameras now right, and I'm sure I'm sure Chris 904 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: has given you some too, because she does too, but 905 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: the bulk of the ones you have, I'm sure. I 906 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: got super into it, and I was going on eBay 907 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,799 Speaker 1: and buying all these old cameras. That's why. That's that's 908 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: it all started with this, Okay, So all right, that's 909 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: what I was. That's what I was running because it 910 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: got ridiculous too at some point. At some point it 911 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: was like a battle between everybody who took pictures on 912 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: the fucking show to bring in their new toy, you 913 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean, whether it was a lika or 914 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: a cannon, or a fucking or a point this is 915 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: the this is the rolls Royce of point and Shoot, 916 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: or how do you think I feel when you're talking 917 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: about your new animation gadget. But listen, I don't fucking sit. 918 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't go to you, dude. Man, I just fucking 919 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: got a c stand. Man, I'm really excited. I don't 920 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: fucking hit you up and do that shit. No, but 921 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: on your Instagram you post shit like I'm doing on 922 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: this is on the ones and I just got this 923 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: new gadget called L two five nine. Do you think 924 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: I give a funk how your animating? Just show me 925 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: to show me to finished product. No, but he's right. 926 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: In addition to Kristen I, there's also a huge camera 927 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: department and and uh and with all sort you know, 928 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: everyone in the camera department loves cameras. So yeah, there 929 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: was a lot of camera talk on this. Sorry, I'm 930 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: sorry we annoyed you with that. It wasn't annoying. I 931 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: look back at it now and I'm so grateful for 932 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: it because I have all of these memories captured. Yes, 933 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: now I want to know why JD, who's we've established 934 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: as a very good doctor a'llbit young, is passing out 935 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: at a nail in someone's hand. I mean, hasn't he 936 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: seemed far right? Things? That ship is gross though, no 937 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: matter how you look at it, man, really, how you 938 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: for some reason, he's he's fucking cleaned out people's rectums. Yeah, 939 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: but when the ship's still in you, that's scary, man, 940 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: because it has to come out. And when it comes 941 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: Look you see in the movies, all right you ready, one, two, three, 942 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: and then they pull it in. The person's like that 943 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: was the first thing I thought about. It's like, they 944 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 1: gotta take that shit out. It didn't cross your It 945 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: didn't cross your mind. As I understand. Being a fake doctor, 946 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: you don't want to pull it out before you get 947 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: to the ear because then that's what the that thing 948 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: is stopping the blood from coming out. In some cases, yes, 949 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: in some cases take this as medical. Please google, Please 950 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 1: google the right thing to do it all because in 951 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: some movies when dude gets shot with the bow and 952 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: arrow or something like that, or or or or get 953 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: stabbed with a knife. Yeah, and they gotta make the escape. 954 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's the icon. It's the close eye contact 955 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: and everything when they're looking face to face and they're like, 956 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 1: all right, you ready, I'm ready on three, one two, 957 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: you sit on three. That's true. Well, anyway, I thought 958 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: it was surprising that there's The episode begins with JD 959 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: passing out at a nail in someone's hand. He literally faints. 960 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: He literally faints like a like a person in old 961 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: movies faints right, like be still yeah, like like like 962 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, backham hand the vapor. Now there's a real 963 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: thing in hospitals, you know, mix ups are. I mean 964 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 1: they've they've taken all these steps in the intervening years 965 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: between this show in twenty twenty to make sure that 966 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: fuck ups are very, very very rare. I just started 967 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: watching this show on Netflix. There's a documentary show if 968 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 1: you're into real doctor situations called Lennox Hill, where they're 969 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: following around real doctors and I just noticed that they 970 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: go into do brain surgery on someone and there's those 971 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: whole process where they're like they're like, we'll be doing 972 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: this on the right side of the brain. Does anyone 973 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: here right, raise your hand if you heard right? And 974 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: there's this whole system in place now where the nurses 975 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: are like I heard right, I heard right, I heard right, 976 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: and they're like sign he signs his name on the 977 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 1: woman's skull before the surgery. Like my point is everyone 978 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: in the medical community who listens to the show is 979 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: laughing at me because I'm explaining it so horribly. But 980 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: it made me think of that because there's so many 981 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: systems in place now to make sure fuck ups happen 982 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: less because it is a thing in hospitals. But it's 983 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: also really funny how they figure out the mess up? 984 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: What was happening? You know what I mean? Wait a second, 985 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 1: I imagine that this guy is Jewish, Yeah, of course 986 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: he is. Then why isn't his penis circumcised? And then 987 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: Todd runs in, Hey, doctor Wynne wants to know if 988 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: there's some sort of mix up because our appendix surgery 989 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have an appendix. And then he walks into the 990 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: room and he's like, can you believe what the whoa 991 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 1: it's going on here? Let me laugh so hard by 992 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 1: the way, I laughed so hard at that, but I 993 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: didn't understand something. I mean, I laughed so hard at that. 994 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: But isn't it just an uncircumcised pen is? Why Tod whcised? 995 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: He's not freaked out by it, But what it is 996 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: is it's it's you know, the person's covered in a 997 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: complete uh a sheet, right, and it's covering their whole 998 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: body and the only thing sticking out and there's a 999 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: big light shining on it. Obviously is this dude's veetis 1000 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: and his balls and his balls? Yeah, but why do 1001 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: we Donald? If you, if you fans are listening, go back. 1002 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: You can see when when Rob comes in and says, whoa, 1003 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: what is going on here? You can see Donald under 1004 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: his mask start to laugh and like, Donald, I can 1005 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: see you biting your fucking cheeks. That ship was hilarious. 1006 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: He's fucking dude. Man. I forgot how I say this 1007 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: over and over again. Robert Machio, Holy shit, I forgot 1008 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: how funny he is. Man. And we used to we 1009 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: used to fucking fuck with him all the time and oh, 1010 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 1: let's go run line and everything, but he fucking crushes 1011 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: it every time. Every time, dude, that's the funniest line 1012 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 1: on the show. WHOA, what is going on here? Going 1013 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: on here? Even in my brain I was thinking, like, well, 1014 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: why is he so surprised to see the fetis? But Donald? Oh? Man. 1015 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: Then I looked at Donald and I know that look 1016 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: better than anyone. You're lucky that he's like, he's like 1017 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: his face. Nicole Sullivan's back, Christa Miller's back on this episode. Yeah, 1018 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: Christ's back really Yeah, then Nicole Sullivan story you know, 1019 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: uh sare you can speak on this also. This was 1020 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: one of those things where you throw her in there 1021 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: just so you can, just so the audience remembers, Okay, 1022 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: there's this character, and we have plans for her later 1023 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: on and to make this connection, to make to make 1024 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: what happens to her, to make you feel it more. 1025 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna introduce her on some silly shit just so 1026 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: you're comfortable, like, oh, this is just somebody who comes 1027 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: into the space, into the universe for Elliott to make 1028 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: funny jokes with and you kind of don't realize. Okay, 1029 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: at the end of this something's bad's gonna happen, even 1030 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: though we're laying out the crumbs, you know what I mean, 1031 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 1: some something's you know. Yeah, she talks about that in 1032 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: his book actually with with the Brendan arc of it 1033 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: all about how Bill wasn't was was totally not afraid 1034 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: to play the long game with these people, right Chay, 1035 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: like like they laid the foundation from Brennan and then 1036 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: that episode is having all two years later. Yeah, So 1037 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: that's the like the one question I wanted to make 1038 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: sure I asked, when I came on here, was when 1039 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: you all are doing that stuff with with the with 1040 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: the the Cole selling character, with or with the Brinnen 1041 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: Fraser character. Do you know ahead of time, like okay, 1042 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: in in fucking three years, is when we're gonna get 1043 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: rid of No, you just sort of we should throw 1044 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: it to Bill. Let's throw that. Yeah, well, well let's 1045 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: let's throw the Brendan one to Bill, because that's I 1046 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: was thinking about doing that as well, Bill, when you 1047 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: had Brendon on in season one for these two awesome episodes. 1048 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: We have Sha Serrano here and of course building those 1049 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: who you are shake because he I see him hitting 1050 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: you up on Twitter as well. Bill, was was it 1051 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: your intention that you would kind of play the long 1052 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: game and then bring Brendan back in season three for 1053 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: the episode Everybody Loves at the Funeral? Was that on 1054 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 1: your radar this far out? And because we're because you 1055 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: know we're talking about also in the Cole Sullivan character, 1056 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: and how one of the things you did really well 1057 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: in Scrubs was not be afraid to play the long 1058 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: game with these characters. But first, well Bill, please don't 1059 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: don't don't hey, guys, I guess we'll just continue this 1060 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: relationship in which you only reach out to me when 1061 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 1: you need me. Uh, and I'm supposed to feel good 1062 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: about that. Um, now I do feel good. Look Brendan, Um, 1063 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: he's an old family friend, good friend of Christa's. And 1064 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: when we brought him on, initially we thought, wow, that 1065 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: was back when we kind of bring guest stars on 1066 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: and get to know him and kill him. But we 1067 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of a good enough thing to 1068 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: give him, uh leukemia and um, you know kind of 1069 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: see doctor Cox rise to the occasion and deal with it. 1070 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 1: The first episode is based on a short story called 1071 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: Occurrence at al Creek Bridge by Ambrose Beers if anybody 1072 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 1: wanted to look that up. Second episode to cool excuse 1073 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: to use the worthless peons, Ted's band and all you guys. 1074 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: And Brennan was so good when he agreed to come back. Uh, 1075 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: it was perfect because we were able to do you 1076 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: know that um sixth sense homage. So we always knew 1077 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: we wanted to kill him, but we hadn't planned. Uh. 1078 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: We had hoped, but hadn't planned for him to come back. 1079 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: And when that happened, it's one of our favorite episodes ever. 1080 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: All right, we were were we have a fan that 1081 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna take, we're commercial and then we come back. 1082 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 1: Do we ever go to a fan and then go 1083 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: to commercial after the fan? How come we always got 1084 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: to go to commercial before the fan? Is this? Like? 1085 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: Is it because and it's a sec it's a segment thing. 1086 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: I got it, it's a segment thing. Yeah, I mean 1087 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: there's when Joel we first started making the show, Joel 1088 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: had a very organized list of the way the show 1089 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: would go, right, and since all we do is ramble 1090 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: all over the place, we just occasionally asked her if 1091 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: we should go to commercial. I know, but it's always like, well, 1092 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: it's always a tease though for the it's always a 1093 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: tease for the people listening to the podcast. Oh we've 1094 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: got a listener here, let's you know what, we should 1095 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: probably go to fucking commercial. But I think that I 1096 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,479 Speaker 1: think that, you know, on real TV shows and radio shows, 1097 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: you want it. You want the audience to stay on 1098 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: the line, right on the right, on the fishing line. 1099 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: You want to when we come back, we're gonna have 1100 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: an exciting caller. But we don't do it that way. 1101 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: We never do it that way. We always try it 1102 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: that way. Let's try and sell it this way. You 1103 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: want to try and sell it, like, pretend that they 1104 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: might change the channel or switch to the No no, no, no, no, no, no, 1105 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,440 Speaker 1: no no. Don't you touch that doubt. When we come back. 1106 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: We'll have that caller. Don't you touch that doubt. We're 1107 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: back in two and two. Oh, hi, guys, guy, gentlemen, 1108 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: it's Dylan and who else? This is Cam Dylan and Cam. 1109 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: There's your official Oprah voice. Guys. That's the prize you 1110 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: get for making it on the show. You get an 1111 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: Oprah voice intro. Dylan and Cam, where are you guys at? 1112 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 1: It looks like you're like in a bunker underground around 1113 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: with Yeah, we have a little barrier in our basement. 1114 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: We're kind of hunkered down that here, but we're in 1115 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: a lacrosse with scot Okay, Wisconsin in the house. Nice. Well, 1116 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: welcome guys to the show. We um. We we have 1117 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: Shay Serano joining us, who's written an awesome book on 1118 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: Scrubs and an incredible best selling author. And he probably 1119 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 1: knows more about Scrubs than Donaland and I, but he 1120 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: definitely you can. Well, that's because Donaland smokes a lot 1121 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: of weed. But you can ask us any question or 1122 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: maybe you're off. Are you off this hour? Down? Do 1123 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: you mean did I smoke today? No? Because well there 1124 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 1: was a couple of podcasts ago you said you were 1125 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: taking a break from weed, and I wonder if that's stuck. No, 1126 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: that night, didn't didn't take. Didn't take that night. That 1127 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: night I went back to the well. Uh. He always 1128 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,399 Speaker 1: tries to brag Shay. He's like, yeah, I'm off weed. 1129 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm like for how long? He's like an hour. That's 1130 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: how it starts. That's how it starts. One step at 1131 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: a time, one step at a time. All right, Dylan 1132 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: and Cam, what's up? What's your question? Guys? Welcome, Yeah, 1133 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 1: get to be here. Man. Really big fans and really 1134 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: huge fan of Shade too, So that's oh nice? Oh 1135 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: yeah great, Yeah you guys have do you guys printed 1136 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: it out for you for you listeners. They held up 1137 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: Shay's book on the office and they had printed it 1138 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: out and binded it. So these guys are real Shae fans. 1139 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh I love yeah, I love shit probably my favorite author. Yeah, 1140 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: thank you, Oh wow, nice sham. All right, A question 1141 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 1: for I guess it's probably gonna be for Shay, But 1142 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,879 Speaker 1: Donald and I are here too. Um So, I guess 1143 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: if you guys gonna hosp in with this too. But 1144 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,280 Speaker 1: for Shay. Um So, you've written obviously, conference room five minutes, 1145 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: for the Office, you've written where do you think we are? 1146 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: For Scrubs? Um? Is there another show that you've been 1147 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: thinking about her? Is there maybe one that maybe Donald 1148 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: or Jack would really like to kind of see from 1149 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: you as well? Oh? That's I like, I like my part, 1150 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: but you go for a show? There hasn't been one 1151 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: that I thought of yet. Usually whenever I'm working on 1152 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: one of these, people will like start tweeting me, Oh, 1153 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 1: do the Wire? Do Arrested Development? Do Sons of Anarchy 1154 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: or Madman or whatever? But but mostly these things just 1155 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: sort of happen organically. Like I've been I've been watching 1156 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: Scrubs for so long. I've seen it so many times, 1157 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: and it was like, well, you know, let me let 1158 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 1: me do something with all of the times I've watched it. 1159 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: And then it becomes like, oh, I was actually just 1160 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: working hard all of that time instead of just sitting 1161 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: around watching TV. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, that's 1162 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,080 Speaker 1: a nice way to spin it. You're like, You're like, 1163 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't wasting those hours. I was writing a book. 1164 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean it's like one hundred and eighty 1165 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: something episodes of the show. You watch a point ninety 1166 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: hours of TV that you've seen four or five times 1167 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: all the way through. But yeah, usually just if a 1168 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: show will grab a hold of me, then I don't 1169 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: then I'll write about it. But I haven't. I don't 1170 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: have any plans right now to do to do another one? 1171 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 1: All right, I have a nice which one? Which one 1172 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: do you want him to do? I was just well, 1173 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: the whole time he was talking, I was half listening 1174 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: and half thinking. I think, I think. I don't know 1175 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: if you watch the show, Shay Donald, I don't think 1176 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: watches it. But I really loved Atlanta. Oh, Atlanta is great, 1177 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's right for analysis because it's got 1178 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: so many trippy storylines and so much social commentary, and 1179 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: I just I just think it's incredibly done. Yeah, that's 1180 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: a really that's a really good But they're not done yet. 1181 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't till they're done. Yeah, you gotta wait till 1182 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: you get Now the Wire, A lot of people say 1183 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: The Wire is I have to admit I only watched 1184 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: season one, so please don't yell at me. But a 1185 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: lot of people think that's the greatest TV show of 1186 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: all time? Is that Is that on the top of 1187 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: your list? Yeah, that's absolutely on there, the Wire, Breaking 1188 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: Bad Soprano, like you know, all of the all of 1189 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: the main ones, right, I've never seen any of these shows. 1190 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: You haven't. No, you've never seen You've never seen Breaking Bad. No, no, 1191 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: you only watch you only watch the finale, the only 1192 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 1: episode you ever saw. So here's my thing. Here's my thing. 1193 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: I have a hard time investing in shows because what 1194 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 1: happens is either they get canceled or they disappoint you 1195 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: in the end. Right, that's my that's my issue with things. 1196 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: I hate when you know something, there's a cliffhanger at 1197 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: the end of the season, and then the show gets 1198 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: canceled and you don't get to finish, you know, and 1199 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: then really, there's a series. What's a series that you 1200 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: watched like that? You just loved all of it? The 1201 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: Clone Wars, it's got to be Star Wars. It's only 1202 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: Star Wars. Yeah that that that well, yeah, I I 1203 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, uh, that was anything non Star wars No No, 1204 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, Bill Lawrence used to say it all 1205 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: the time, and it's so true. You you tell people 1206 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: when you when people meet you and they say, I'm 1207 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: such a huge fan of your show. Nine out of 1208 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: the ten times, they've only seen it like a handful 1209 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: of times, you know what I mean, and haven't seen 1210 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: it more than that. Um, And so I fall in 1211 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: that category. If I were to see Brian and Aaron, 1212 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: I would be like, I'm such a hug. I was 1213 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: such a huge fan of Breaking Bad. I only saw 1214 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: the final episode. I would let you admit that I 1215 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: already told them it's all over the air. Now that's 1216 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna come back to him and say that shit now. 1217 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Like, like I watch 1218 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: every now and then I'll check out a c W show, right, 1219 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I love superhero movies, right, so I'll check out 1220 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: The Flash, or I'll check out Legends of Tomorrow, or 1221 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 1: I'll check out you know, uh arrow U. And I've 1222 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: only seen, like you know, out of all of them, 1223 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: I've seen maybe you know, thirty of them total, like 1224 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: of all of the show's total. But when I see 1225 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: the actors and stuff in it, I genuinely do love 1226 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: what I have seen, so I'll be like, I'm such 1227 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: a fan of your show, even though I've only seen 1228 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: each show. So the message for all those actors is 1229 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,959 Speaker 1: that Donald is totally bullshitting you. I'm telling the honest 1230 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: to goodness truth. I like Supergirl, I have seen that 1231 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: a few times. You like it? What about Small About? 1232 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,439 Speaker 1: I only saw that show a couple of times also, 1233 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: And I'd like, you know, because Angel, which one was 1234 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: Dark Angel? This one with Jessica Alba. I didn't watch 1235 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: that one. I didn't watch. I never you also used 1236 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: didn't you used to watch? There was a sci fi 1237 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: show you Battlestar Galactica. I take it back, if you 1238 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: do Battlestar, Yeah, you should do Battlestar Galactic Yeah, there 1239 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 1: we go. Thank you, Zach. Thanks. I remember, I remember 1240 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: I got I was searching my brain for you. I 1241 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 1: was like, I know there was one sci fi show 1242 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 1: you actually watched. There wasn't a fucking Star Wars animated cartoon. Yeah. 1243 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I remember. I got into an argument with my girlfriend 1244 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: at the time because I thought she uh taped over 1245 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: my Battlestar Galactica episode. I remember, um, did you watch that? One, Shay, 1246 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I did not watch Battlestar you guys, Dylan Cam did 1247 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: you watch batle Stalactica? Yeah? Yeah, do you lie like it? Yeah? 1248 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm not super big and like sci fi. By that one, 1249 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I was pretty I think as far as like sci 1250 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 1: fi shows that people have liked, that's one of those ones. 1251 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Everyone says it was canceled too soon, and people Katie 1252 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: saf Is she's a g if you ask me, you 1253 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, she's one of those action 1254 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: heroes that is a good Like she's straight up as 1255 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 1: a true action star who deserves the opportunity to carry 1256 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: some project. They say she's going to be in the 1257 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Mandalorian this upcoming season as uh Bokatan, which would be 1258 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: really fucking dope. My grandmother used to live in Boca Raton, right, Well, 1259 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: these characters, these these characters all travel from does it 1260 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: take place at an old Jewish community center and Flora 1261 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: can eat and as Joel, do you watch battle Started 1262 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Galactica because you like the sci fi stuff? Yeah? I 1263 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: came very very late to Battlestar Galacticus. I'm currently in 1264 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: the middle of season one but really loving it. It's amazing. 1265 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: It's excellent's good writing. If you're a Star Trek and 1266 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: or Star Wars fan, you'll probably find something like in 1267 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: Battlestar Galactica. All right, Um, so guys, um, to finish 1268 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: that question off, do you have a show that that 1269 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: like you would love Shay to one day do a 1270 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,959 Speaker 1: book about each We're gonna ask both of you each. Yeah, okay, 1271 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: I would love Breaking Bad personally. Breaking That would be 1272 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: really sick. I think it's a really really good show. Um. Yeah, 1273 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: that would probably be my top two. Like many parts 1274 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and Rap would kind of be a more fun one. 1275 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm more lighthearted, but I would probably say Breaking That 1276 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: would be a really cool one. All Right, how about you, Um, 1277 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: I've always been a huge fan of the show dexter Um, 1278 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: I would love to see you do that in my 1279 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: opinion at Born in the best show start and then 1280 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: kind of drop co operating to finish where I think 1281 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad better in the series where I think that's 1282 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: best Sexter is better. Yeah, I think I think that's 1283 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: that's my kind of fall in line with Donald's of 1284 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: kind of a slight disaployment at the very head. But yeah, 1285 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that's one that's another show where 1286 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: I only watched the last episode and I was like, 1287 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? Strang that's bullshit? Say when 1288 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Harry Matzally, that's a totally different example. Do you remember 1289 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: when Billy Crystal when she's asking when when she when 1290 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: he tells her how how dark he is, and he's like, 1291 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I read the end of the book before I start. 1292 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: That's me with movies. That's me with television shows that 1293 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: everybody's trained. But that's me with television shows that everybody's like, 1294 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: you should watch this, you know what show you would like, 1295 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 1: You would like this show, but you miss you missed 1296 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: like the whole build up of everything, like you can't. Okay, 1297 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about Nicole Sullivan character. Yeah, yes, and the 1298 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: and in the season eight finale when Jade is doing 1299 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 1: the walk down the hallway and she pops up out 1300 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: of the out of the thing and she's like, there 1301 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: you are and you can it's so fucking excited, Like 1302 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: there's like a real jolt of joy in your body 1303 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: when you see that. If you haven't watched all the 1304 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: other episodes, you don't understand what that. You think this 1305 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: is just a person who happens to be other how 1306 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: do you can't just watch? So then that is the 1307 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: final episode of Scrubs. A good episode. It's a great, 1308 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: fantastic because the Breaking Bad. For the Breaking Bad finale, 1309 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: it's a fucking movie. All I needed to know was 1310 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that this dude, Walter White, was this freak. Why because 1311 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: you you you will get So I mean, let's just 1312 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: take Breaking Bad because I feel like it's a show 1313 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: that everyone listening to this problem that last that last right, 1314 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 1: But that last episode is a movie. It's a fucking movie. 1315 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: It's a movie, like like it's just like the twenty 1316 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: sixth hour with Edward Norton where he finally where he's 1317 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a board twenty I forget the name of a dann movie, 1318 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: but I forget how many hours. There was a lot. 1319 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. But he fucking uh yeah, 1320 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: he's a drug dealer who goes to jail. You don't 1321 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 1: need to know everything that goes on before the movie. 1322 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: With the movie starts, you're invested the minute he gets 1323 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: caught out there after you know what I mean, And 1324 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: it is going to jail and it's the end of 1325 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 1: the story. It's but you can watch that movie and 1326 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: understand all of the parts by the time you get 1327 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 1: to the end of it. If you only watch the 1328 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,479 Speaker 1: finale of Breaking Bad like you, kind of you don't 1329 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 1: understand why it's so important that he saves Jesse in 1330 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: that moment. You're like, I don't get it. Why did 1331 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: he save this one kid and kill everybody else. I 1332 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 1: don't understand why he had to walk through the meth 1333 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: lab the last time. I don't understand why they played 1334 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 1: this particular song. Like you, you're missing so much of 1335 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: this thing. You gotta watch the rest of the episode. 1336 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 1: You gotta watch it, all right. Wait, let's let's ask 1337 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the guys if they have another question. Go ahead, guys, 1338 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: do you have another one? So you guys have mentioned 1339 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast series that you guys used to 1340 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: be roommates, right, Yes, we were roommates for a year, 1341 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean for our half for summer, for summer, summer, 1342 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: for a summer. So maybe I'm trying to stir in 1343 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: the pod a little bit here, But what we've got 1344 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: from your biggest pet peeves living with each other. So 1345 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: I got to the loft first. We rented this loft 1346 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: for the summer, and the loft it was enormous. It 1347 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: was like your dream loft in terms of size, but 1348 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: it didn't wasn't really that set up in terms of 1349 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: like two nice bedrooms, two nice bathrooms. So I claimed 1350 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: the nice bedroom because you know I got there first, right, 1351 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 1: that's what you do. Right. Then I gave Donald what 1352 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: was technically the second bedroom, but it had a washroom 1353 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: and dryer in it, and he goes, who do you 1354 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: think I am? Benson? And for you guys are young, 1355 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: you don't know if but Benson was a show where 1356 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: how do you play Benson? Benson was a show. Robert 1357 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Guillon and played Benson, and he was he worked for 1358 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the mayor. He was an assistant to the mayor. He 1359 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: was saying pretty much like who do you think I 1360 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: worked for? And Benson was the one that pretty much 1361 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: ran the country while because the mayor was this you know, 1362 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: uh bumbling Uh. Well he wasn't a bumbling mayor, but 1363 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: he was. Benson was the one that handled everything right, 1364 01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: He handled the house, he handled everything. Uh. And for 1365 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 1: some reason, uh, to me, that ship was kind of 1366 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: fucked up that you can never like, Benson should be 1367 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the mayor. Benson should have been the mayor, and the 1368 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: mayor should not have been the mayor. But that's not 1369 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: why I was pissed up. I was pissed up because 1370 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: it was like, yea, you're gonna put me in the 1371 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 1: fucking room with the washer and dryer of all the room. Look, 1372 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 1: it was either that or like a law. It was 1373 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: like a there was a cot right outside of his 1374 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: room and I was not the cot. Take the fucking cot. Yeah, 1375 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: and then I didn't really have a door. So we 1376 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 1: we we were very open with each other that summer. 1377 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: We were very very open with We touched tips. No, no, no, 1378 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: we didn't do we did dock? Did we do? And 1379 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 1: we never docks? We never docked. That was the middle 1380 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: of a dream. This is all gonna get, This is 1381 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: all boy. Now we're not cutting this out. Listen. This 1382 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: is what always happens on the show. We say something 1383 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 1: like that and then Dolly goes, we're cutting this out, 1384 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: and then we almost never cut it out. We used 1385 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 1: to play ping pong in our in our box and 1386 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: our underwear do. We had a lot of great times. 1387 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: I remember the writer Amy Tan. Is that a famous 1388 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: writer Joel Okay? As I understand it, the writer Amy 1389 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Tan lived beneath us and she was not happy that 1390 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 1: two guys partying all summer were in the loft above her. Yeah, 1391 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: and we would get a note like, we would get 1392 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: notes like Amy Tan is furious, you guys need a 1393 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: fucking quiet down. She was like, she would write notes like, 1394 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:31,759 Speaker 1: do you guys have fucking elephants upstairs? Yeah? Because the banging. 1395 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I can only imagine. She would write some pretty unique 1396 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 1: notes though she was well, she was a good writer. 1397 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: She they were beautifully written. She wrote the joy Luck Club. 1398 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Holy shit, we were fucking with the lady who wrote 1399 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 1: the joy Luck We weren't funny with her. We were 1400 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: just having fun. And I remember her very well worded 1401 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 1: angry letters. Yeah, I wish you still had them. Yeah, 1402 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: she pulled out the thesaurus for some of those. I know, 1403 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: we could probably sell them on eBay. Those are worth something. 1404 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Amy Tan's angry letter Donald, all right, we gotta keep going. 1405 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for coming on, Donald, thank you, Hey, 1406 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: thank you guys. Did what is that on your hurts? 1407 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 1: The summer league? Yeah, Vegas summer league. So Sha probably 1408 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 1: knows about summer league. Yeah, and yeah basketball. Thank you 1409 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 1: probably don't know too much about Donald, does Donald? Are you? No? Yeah, 1410 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: we're big Bucks, then Bucks plans and okay, right on, 1411 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: how long do you think you can hold at Tokompo 1412 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 1: there for he's resigning? Yeah he heard it. Yeah you 1413 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: believe he's not coming to stand in your show. I mean, look, 1414 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Do they come out of the I 1415 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,560 Speaker 1: mean there is no East this year or West for 1416 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: the for this bubble round that they're talking about at Disney, right, 1417 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of teams thrown into a pot. No, 1418 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 1: I think I think they are still doing the East West. 1419 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 1: It's something weird. It's kind of weird how they have 1420 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 1: set up. But it would be nice if they just 1421 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 1: threw teams into a pot so you can get you know, 1422 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: first rounds with like Houston verse Milwaukee or Houston verse 1423 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,840 Speaker 1: you know Washington. That'd be really cool. But what's his 1424 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 1: name again? I want to try and use it to kumpopo? Yes, 1425 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: a story. Well, I gotta tell you he's a really 1426 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: great player. And what I like about him is he's 1427 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: always in the paint. That's actually true. Actually, he reminds 1428 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: me of Rodman because he's always getting those rebounds. Wow. Again, 1429 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: not bad, not bad, not bad. Kind of a quick 1430 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: little shared story. We uh um. I think back to 1431 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,960 Speaker 1: the episode where I don't think it was the standards. 1432 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 1: It's like a flashback to where you guys got to 1433 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: go see Michael Jordan. Yeah, and when we were in 1434 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,799 Speaker 1: high school. I want to take it to Bucks Lakers 1435 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 1: game and shout out and I rest in peace Kobe Bryant. 1436 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: But we have to go see Kobe Bryant playing. Yeah, 1437 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,400 Speaker 1: we wrote rolled up that we're doing. Don't see Kobe 1438 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Bryant and I take it. Take it Unlike unlike Jade 1439 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: and Turk. You guys remember the tickets. I take it right? Yeah? 1440 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,639 Speaker 1: Is it? That? Is that like in Scrubs? Lord Donald? 1441 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: Is that how you began to lose your hair? You 1442 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: first started pulling it out. I don't know how I 1443 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: began to lose I don't know how Turk started to 1444 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: lose his hair, but that was the first moment. First, 1445 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 1: that's one of the first moments. All right, guys, thank 1446 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: you so much for coming out. I really appreciate it. 1447 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 1: Appreciate Hey, do you ever in Wisconsin come play tennis 1448 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: of the Zack for tennis coaches too? Oh? Really? Oh 1449 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: right on? Whatever is I love it? I love it. 1450 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll find you guys. All right, guys, you know, I 1451 01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: appreciate that they knew how to tap into the one 1452 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: sport that I could talk about, and there they were. 1453 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 1: They were very good guests, like MASSI is back Insode, Yeah, 1454 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: which is great. He went on to become a time 1455 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: traveling hero. That was another show I watched, Shay Heroes. 1456 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I watched that all the way through. Yeah. Yeah, by 1457 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: the way, a couple of goose I had goosebumps multiple 1458 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 1: times in this episode. The first was nine fifty six 1459 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 1: when they're playing cool in the bar and Ben's hand 1460 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: is still bleeding and the look Cox gives to JD. 1461 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 1: It really moved me because for an inspitement because I 1462 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 1: was reading your essays and now was all emotional, Shay, 1463 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: but I went My first reaction was Cox can't hide 1464 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: the fact that he respects JD as a doctor, to 1465 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: know that he'll know what that could mean. Yeah, immediately, 1466 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,920 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? It was like, you know, 1467 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 1: Cox is always fronting like, oh your girl's name and 1468 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 1: JD you sucking, but obviously under undercurrent trying to build 1469 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: him up. But that was a moment of shock where 1470 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: he looked to it as a peer as a peer 1471 01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 1: and when you know what that could mean, Yeah, that's 1472 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: like it. So you see you see him do it 1473 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 1: in the in the pilot, it was like the first 1474 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 1: time he expressed some sort of like not admiration, but 1475 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm gonna grab a hold of you 1476 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: and take it, take care of you. And then this 1477 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 1: time was the first time when he doesn't say anything. 1478 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 1: There's no words at all. He just looks and he knows, 1479 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: and JD knows, and the only person who doesn't know 1480 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: in that moment as Ben. Yeh, He's like, oh, it's 1481 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: about it. I was really stuck by the respect that 1482 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: he should I mean, but obviously in his mind wasn't 1483 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna now respect this person. It was just it didn't. 1484 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: He didn't have a moment to put on his airs 1485 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: if you will. He didn't have a moment to put 1486 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: on his front. He just had an instant reaction to 1487 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: a fellow doctor and went, oh, fuck, you know what 1488 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 1: this could mean. It's totally it's it's totally different than 1489 01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: when you see him at the very beginning of the 1490 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,599 Speaker 1: next episode when he walks into the room and JD 1491 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: and and Jordan and Ben are in there, and Jad's 1492 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,439 Speaker 1: doing the thing about like we knew, you know you 1493 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 1: you don't need a we don't need a resident, we 1494 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 1: need like a hero. And then he comes walking in 1495 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 1: and now now he's prepared for the situation and doing 1496 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But yeah, you're exactly right in that 1497 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 1: moment and then um and the second time. First of all, 1498 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,439 Speaker 1: I just want to say at ten or five, there 1499 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 1: was a really cool transition moment that Larry Trilling did 1500 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: from I love how they went from the bar right 1501 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: to the exam room. That was cool. Before we before, 1502 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 1: before we move forward with that, you know, he says, 1503 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,040 Speaker 1: I've never asked you out for a beer before, but 1504 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 1: he had asked you out for a beer before, and 1505 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 1: that was when he lost his shit and tore up 1506 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:48,680 Speaker 1: the lab that day, U and he was having his 1507 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: worst day and you got caught up in it. He 1508 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,840 Speaker 1: does invite you out for a beer. You guys go 1509 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,839 Speaker 1: to a bar and you drink beer and you drink together. 1510 01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Actually so right. That was very weird that he was like, 1511 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,639 Speaker 1: you know, I've never asked you out. Maybe he blocked 1512 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 1: it out. Whatever. I'm just you know, you're just trying 1513 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: to show off that you're like Scrubs Wiki guy ought 1514 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: to me a lot of laughter on on my Insta 1515 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 1: comments about Scrubs WICKI guy. They were like someone was 1516 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: like that guy pulled a total Dorian uh um, and 1517 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 1: that people were just laughing about how but no, friends, Trevor, 1518 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: we we we we got you. Now you're gonna be 1519 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: our Scrubs wiki guy, right, Donald, I mean he doesn't 1520 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: necessarily want him. No, but I kind of like that 1521 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: about his character. No, but I kind of like that 1522 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,240 Speaker 1: about his character in the show. He's like a reluctant. 1523 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: He like a reluctant. He's reluctant. So, yeah, that's what 1524 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,719 Speaker 1: you do. Think of it as like the hero's journey. 1525 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 1: In the beginning, you don't really want to do it. Yeah, 1526 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: once you get on board, you're off to a adventure, 1527 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 1: that adventure of a lifetime. Yeah, Trevor, by the time 1528 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 1: we do one hundred and eighty two episodes, you'll be 1529 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,600 Speaker 1: happy that you came along on the journey. And the 1530 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: other moment and the other moment we got goose bumps. 1531 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, Um, that's that that Sha writes 1532 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 1: about it in his essay was when j D reads 1533 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: the chart and sees that Ben has leukemia, and Carla 1534 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: comes up and she says, are you okay? And I 1535 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 1: just say no. And it was just really, really powerful 1536 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: because it was one of those moments that she's talking 1537 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 1: about where there had just been a silly moment of 1538 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 1: the fantasy of what happens in that in that blood 1539 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,680 Speaker 1: test guy's office, and and and and and Doug being 1540 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: you know Doug, and then all of a sudden, bam, 1541 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 1: we just drop in with, Hey, this guy we just 1542 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: made you fall in love with he's got leukemia. She's 1543 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 1: so good and like every single moment, like she has 1544 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: this like like her player efficiency rating has gotta be 1545 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: fucking outrageous, yeah, which looks like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1546 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 1: she's if you were playing, if you were playing uh 1547 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 1: NBA two K, she's like ninety six ninety seven. She 1548 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: was just straight up like she's a glitch mode man. 1549 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: Judy three rushed at that time. Yeah. I think that 1550 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: she is incredible actress and in the show she was 1551 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: the perfect tool to use for moments like this because 1552 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: she was the heart, you know, she was the heart 1553 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: of She was the conscience and the heart for everybody 1554 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 1: at least the first two seasons. I think as the 1555 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 1: show went on, she you know, she became as much 1556 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: of a uh character as we you know, as all 1557 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: of us did. But in the first two seasons she 1558 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: was definitely the grounding factor to all of you know 1559 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, to everything. So then we go into 1560 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 1: this fantasy that we don't know as a fantasy delivery 1561 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,839 Speaker 1: end of the show. Um and all of this happens 1562 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: in Jady's imagination, which which again we talked about it 1563 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: early in this podcast, but you know that totally foreshadows 1564 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: the giant mislead we do in season three with with 1565 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: Johnny not knowing that that that Ben's gone. So it's 1566 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,639 Speaker 1: just really interesting that that bill not only introduced Ben 1567 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 1: for for the long haul, but then mirrored that sort 1568 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,160 Speaker 1: of whack fantasy structure. So when when when you reached 1569 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 1: out and asked which episode I wanted to be on, 1570 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 1: like if I could, if I wanted to be on 1571 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,600 Speaker 1: the thing that that was the whole reason that I 1572 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 1: ended up picking this one because I think this episode 1573 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 1: in season one especially is like the one episode where 1574 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,600 Speaker 1: we see the most amount of tricks that Scrubs is 1575 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: able to pull off that maybe a lot of shows 1576 01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 1: aren't so, so if we have if we put a 1577 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: list together, you have that great scene where where Elliott 1578 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: makes yourself cry to get the toe to redo the 1579 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 1: thing right. So this is like her being very silly 1580 01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: in this situation. But to do that as an actor, 1581 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 1: I imagine, is incredibly tricky, just like pull that out 1582 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 1: of you. So you have her doing that. You have 1583 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Carlo with JD in the hallway and Carlo's doing her 1584 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 1: quick missile strike right here where she's just like gonna 1585 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,720 Speaker 1: pump a scene full of emotion. You have the thing 1586 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 1: where they're playing with timelines, which they used to even 1587 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: greater effect later on. You have the gag with we 1588 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,479 Speaker 1: we find and out the janitor is in like the 1589 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: background of all of these pictures that there's so much 1590 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 1: we have. We have doctor Cox using his serious voice. 1591 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,560 Speaker 1: He didn't do it very often, but when he does it, 1592 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,640 Speaker 1: you feel it, and he gives He tells JD like 1593 01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 1: your only job today as he gets these test results back, 1594 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 1: like you'd love to see him drop everything to do that. 1595 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 1: You have Turt sticking up for JD. You have Brendan 1596 01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 1: Fraser swooping in and being just like the perfect cameo 1597 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 1: character where you you have to be able to tell 1598 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,320 Speaker 1: a joke, but you also have to be able to 1599 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 1: stick this landing. Yeah, there's just so much stuff going on. 1600 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: This one episode's perfect. By the way, Sha, you just 1601 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 1: made me think of something else, which was Sarah's a 1602 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,639 Speaker 1: bit which he really did live on camera obviously, which 1603 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: which actors often have to do and can't always do, 1604 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 1: but Sarah does literally live on camera. Here is get 1605 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,720 Speaker 1: themselves in a headspace where they can produce tears, and 1606 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: that momentum really encapsulates exactly what you're talking about in Scrubs, 1607 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,080 Speaker 1: being able to dance between comedy and drama. Because what 1608 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Sarah's doing is very funny, but if you look at 1609 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: the words she's saying to get herself to cry, it's 1610 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: very serious and it's the painful stuff from her life 1611 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,920 Speaker 1: and trying to impress her father and whatever whatever she 1612 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,720 Speaker 1: was saying. But it was like happening simultaneously, is this 1613 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 1: thing you're laughing at, But what the woman is saying 1614 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: is is so Sash, do you know what I mean? 1615 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: And then it ends with her with tears streaming down 1616 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 1: her face. If it was a really great acting woman 1617 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: for Sarah, she's amazing. Um what about Chop Chop Nancy 1618 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 1: Rappido Rap? I remember that, dude, I remember that day. 1619 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: I remember. I think that's one of the first times 1620 01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 1: where I was having a hard time with lines. I 1621 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 1: remember Chop Chop Nancy. No. I had the whole thing 1622 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,560 Speaker 1: where I was like, you're gonna go back there and 1623 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna do this and blah blah blah. I think 1624 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: that was one of the first times where I was like, 1625 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:56,679 Speaker 1: I didn't study this. Oh shit. Leonard makes an appearance 1626 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Hire without a hook arm, though without a hook on 1627 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 1: his head. So what is the story? I read on 1628 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 1: scrubs Wiki that the guy wrote perhaps this episode is 1629 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 1: before his ice machine accident. I think it is. I didn't. 1630 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 1: I didn't remember that that Leonard had lost his arm 1631 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 1: in an ice machine accident. Did you? I did not either, 1632 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: But I love that. I love that on scrubs Wiki, 1633 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: it's like this may have occurred before, but I have 1634 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: to because he had a hand. So for those of 1635 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you who don't remember, that's Randall Winston, our line producer 1636 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: who not only played Death but also played Leonard. This 1637 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 1: is his first appearance in his wig Um and the 1638 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: Afrow wasn't that big yet either. It's like he was 1639 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 1: he was keeping his tighter right, but he does he 1640 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 1: does not yet have a hook hand. This might be 1641 01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: I believe the only appearance of Leonard without his hook 1642 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 1: can so the ice machine. But then again, sorry, I'm 1643 01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,679 Speaker 1: going all over the place. But this was a fantasy. 1644 01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 1: So maybe in Jad's weird daydream, Leonard didn't have yet. 1645 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: He didn't recognize Leonard had a hook yet he had. 1646 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 1: I hadn't noticed that Leonard had a hook yet, so 1647 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 1: when I had a fantasy, that seems like something you 1648 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:18,880 Speaker 1: would notice, though, I just want to I've probably noticed that. Um. 1649 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,599 Speaker 1: So it took me a moment because I've forgotten well, 1650 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,679 Speaker 1: I wanted to just mention in eighteen thirty six, again, 1651 01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,479 Speaker 1: Brennan took all those pictures, and they're pretty great pictures. 1652 01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,639 Speaker 1: I believe CHRISTI still saved the bunch of them, um 1653 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 1: and um. And then j D. Yeah. So then I 1654 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,679 Speaker 1: was kind of surprised by that reveal. You know, again, 1655 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 1: I've watched Theason twenty years. I thought it was cool 1656 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 1: to see this, you know. And and Bill was smart 1657 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 1: directorially and writing wise. You needed something very specific to 1658 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,240 Speaker 1: make the audience go, this is the exact same moment. 1659 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: You need a device because the audience is gonnasentarily track it. 1660 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,679 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, when people watching these they had commercial 1661 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,839 Speaker 1: breaks in and everything, so that you need the audience 1662 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 1: to make sure they tracked that whole run. And he 1663 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: came up with the device of the exact playing cards 1664 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,240 Speaker 1: on their foreheads. Right. But here's the thing. He also 1665 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: made it seem like it was a curveball. That's you know, 1666 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 1: not only did it curve, but the ship was a 1667 01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 1: change up too, you know what I mean, Like, because 1668 01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 1: you don't think that the whole thing is a day dream. 1669 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: You think, just when he gets the paper the second 1670 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 1: time and he meets U Brendan Frasier outside, Yeah, you 1671 01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,040 Speaker 1: think that's all the fans, that's just the fantasy. I'm 1672 01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna go out there and hey man, it's just leukemia. 1673 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: It's not leukemia. You're You're fine, And I was wrong. 1674 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I was wrong, and you know, the circle comes around 1675 01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,640 Speaker 1: and it's got this weird Yeah, you think, okay, so 1676 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,240 Speaker 1: this parts the fantasy. And I expected you to be 1677 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 1: at the door of the exit telling him, no, dude, 1678 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 1: here's what I think you need. You need to come 1679 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 1: back inside. Actually, and it doesn't even do that. It 1680 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,479 Speaker 1: jumps all the way back to the moment. And so 1681 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,240 Speaker 1: it was like it was like a not It wasn't 1682 01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: just one pump fake. It was like he was under 1683 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,880 Speaker 1: the rim giving you the dream shake, you know what 1684 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean? And then you know what I mean? You 1685 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: know it is funny about that fantasy. You know, it's 1686 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 1: the writing is such that it's supposed to be. Oh, 1687 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: Ben says he doesn't like posed pictures. You'll know it's 1688 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,599 Speaker 1: a fantasy because here we are taking a post picture. 1689 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 1: But what what tipped it off even more for me 1690 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 1: was that Kelso's happily getting in a picture with everyone. 1691 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I was like, Kelso would never want to do with these. Yeah, 1692 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 1: I think that's it, guys. I think we did the 1693 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 1: whole We did the whole episode. Yeah we did. Chay, 1694 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,760 Speaker 1: did you have fun? Are you glad you did this? 1695 01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm really glad. This was like a you know, part 1696 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,080 Speaker 1: of me is like, these are two guys who I 1697 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: have been watching for so long. I'm kind of nervous 1698 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,800 Speaker 1: to me and I don't really like to meet the 1699 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,519 Speaker 1: people who I admire because what if it turns out 1700 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 1: there dicks so I had that in my head. But no, 1701 01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 1: y'are cool. Hold hope you're you're better than I was. 1702 01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: You come back on? Yeah? Will you come back on? Yeah, 1703 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll come back on later on after I'll do all 1704 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,720 Speaker 1: of the other stuff for sure, because I have a 1705 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,639 Speaker 1: feeling what's going to happen on all of our social 1706 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 1: media is everyone's gonna say Shay was the best. Guess 1707 01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 1: you need to have Shay back all the time. Carol 1708 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: Melbart definitely hashteck. Yeah, whatever happened, we don't know. He 1709 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 1: freaking we went into the party and he got he 1710 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: got jumped to something like that. Yeah, he definitely died 1711 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,560 Speaker 1: on the show. In real life, he's still working. But 1712 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,559 Speaker 1: on this show. You know he has a twin brother, right, 1713 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,120 Speaker 1: yea identical Yeah. And I remember one night we were 1714 01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 1: out and his twin brother. Everybody thought his twin brother 1715 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 1: was him, and they were coming up to him going 1716 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,400 Speaker 1: pedro pedro, and as I recall, the twin brother was 1717 01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,720 Speaker 1: rolling with it, rolling with it, loving it, and he 1718 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,680 Speaker 1: was like, don't tell anybody. I was like, I'm not 1719 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna say shit, dude, I thought that I thought you 1720 01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: were the other one. Oh. I had people telling me 1721 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,400 Speaker 1: that I'm always say that's funny, like Manny Moore's character 1722 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 1: does on the show, and then I need to stop 1723 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 1: saying that. Donald I had someone write that to me. 1724 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,640 Speaker 1: You guys did date Maybe that rubbed off on you. 1725 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: Well I don't know if that's the case, but all right, guys, 1726 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 1: I want to get out. I want to know you 1727 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 1: can leave it. Listen Shay's handle on Twitter at Shay 1728 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 1: Serrano s h e A s E R R A 1729 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 1: n O follow him on there. He is one of 1730 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 1: the most popular fellows on Twitter. He does a lot 1731 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,800 Speaker 1: of amazing I just talk for a second, shape before 1732 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,640 Speaker 1: we go about this cool thing you do with the 1733 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 1: fo h army, tell people what that is. Shay will 1734 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 1: have like drives for people that need help. He'll be like, 1735 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 1: all right, who's whose bills are we paying this week? 1736 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,640 Speaker 1: And then he'll like just then mow them cash. So 1737 01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 1: just talk about that for a second. Yeah, that's like 1738 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,719 Speaker 1: the silly little sort of gorilla philanthropy thing we started 1739 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,679 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, or it was like after 1740 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 1: we had enough people following me on Twitter, or we 1741 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: were all grouped up together. If we got got one hundred, 1742 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: two hundred three hundred thousand people following we could raise 1743 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 1: a lot of money real fast if everybody sends like 1744 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,760 Speaker 1: a dollar or two dollars or whatever. And so you know, 1745 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,040 Speaker 1: we started doing that and then yeah, when the coronavirus 1746 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 1: stuff hit, when the Black Lives Matter movement started up 1747 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,880 Speaker 1: after the George Floyd to murder, and we're like, you know, 1748 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to help out in order any situation 1749 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 1: we can. So like people will send stuff to me 1750 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: and we're like, all right, cool, we're gonna fund this. 1751 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna send some money out. So yeah, I think 1752 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 1: like since March twelve, it's been you know, two hundred 1753 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 1: and fifty two hundred and forty thousand dollars of just 1754 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: like straight cash. We've given two places of people. And 1755 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,160 Speaker 1: do people give you I think just from following you 1756 01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 1: to some people who can afford it, give you like 1757 01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: large sums and hey, say hey, Shay, distribute this. Every 1758 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 1: once in a while somebody will hit me up, like 1759 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 1: at my DMS and be like, hey, I don't want you. 1760 01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: That's like say where this came from, but like here's 1761 01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Can you pay bills for people? Until 1762 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: this has gone like that happens every once in a while. 1763 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Mostly though, it's like we're all gonna chip in five bucks, 1764 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 1: ten bucks and see what happens. That's really awesome, man, 1765 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,679 Speaker 1: that's really awesome. And he's so sweet about it. People 1766 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,680 Speaker 1: will write him things like, oh, thank you so much, 1767 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 1: say I'm having trouble with my bills, and he's like, 1768 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 1: fuck that noise, and he'll send them back money. It's awesome, awesome. Um, 1769 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,559 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, that's the episode I want to thank, 1770 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 1: We want to thank on behalf of my co host 1771 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 1: and I because say, you're an awesome guest, right Donald, 1772 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 1: amazing guests. Well, dude, this was this was you know, 1773 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 1: uh always you never know how your guests are gonna be. 1774 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: And you're somebody who wasn't on the show. Uh, but 1775 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: you fit in so well man. And your insight on 1776 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,680 Speaker 1: our show. I'm dead serious, man, your insight on our 1777 01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 1: show is is very awesome. Man, Like I I appreciate. Yeah, 1778 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: and since and since the old Caramel Bear died, I 1779 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 1: think you can be And I just hope that I 1780 01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,200 Speaker 1: just told that my persona on this podcast has made 1781 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 1: Laramie like me a little bit more. Um. I know 1782 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,560 Speaker 1: that it was ja I know it was JD. She 1783 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,840 Speaker 1: didn't love but maybe maybe she'll like Zach Brow. She 1784 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:16,520 Speaker 1: loved Garden State, So you're good. All right, question everybody 1785 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,680 Speaker 1: loves that movie? Yeah? They you should have been in it. 1786 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 1: All right. Listen, everybody go to go to um Donald 1787 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: phase Donald underscore aison. That's I'm trying to get all 1788 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,439 Speaker 1: of Zach's followers. Okay, y'all need to come over to 1789 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 1: the dark side. All right, come over to Okay, that's 1790 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,439 Speaker 1: one way to play. Join, join me, and together we 1791 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,280 Speaker 1: will build this institution and we will like weird memes. 1792 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Um listen, uh combined strength. Okay, we can in this 1793 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: conflict and bring order to the galaxy. All right. That's 1794 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,639 Speaker 1: his audition monologue. Listen. Check out Shay's book, A Sacred 1795 01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 1: Heart Gang dot com. Please follow Donald on Instagram. I'm 1796 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,439 Speaker 1: really getting sack, you know, just just hold on. Let's 1797 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 1: be clear. Not just the people who are listening Zach 1798 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 1: Brafts followers, okay, follow Donald followers are tired of being 1799 01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 1: accostant by you. Um and uh right, Joel your questions 1800 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 1: at scrubs iHeart at gmail dot com, and please um 1801 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,479 Speaker 1: subscribe and rate the podcast. Because I recently was told 1802 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,160 Speaker 1: that that's a real thing that's good for our our exposure. 1803 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 1: If you give us five stars. I'm like the uber 1804 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,760 Speaker 1: driver who's like five stars, five stars, So we give 1805 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 1: us five stars, right, Donald, Yeah, please give us five stars? 1806 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,880 Speaker 1: All right? And time, friends, five stars are better. Tell 1807 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 1: your friends we are hoping to one day when the 1808 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,360 Speaker 1: world opens up, tour this show. And um, we'll come 1809 01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,240 Speaker 1: to you, will you will you come when we come 1810 01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: to Houston? Shay, are you still in Houston? I'm in 1811 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,160 Speaker 1: San Antonio now, but if y'all make it to Texas, 1812 01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 1: I'll show up. All right, We'll wait, hold on, now come. 1813 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,040 Speaker 1: I heard something about Tim Duncan and that being your 1814 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 1: favorite player of all times. Jeffs absolutely absolutely Why why 1815 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan? Why before we go? Why this doesn't even 1816 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 1: have to be on the podcast act. I just need 1817 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 1: to know this because Tim is one of my favorite 1818 01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,719 Speaker 1: players too. He's not my favorite player. Why Tim Duncan? Okay, 1819 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: let me tell you that there's a very personal connection 1820 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,160 Speaker 1: that Tim Duncan has with San Antonio and that he 1821 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: showed up and all of a sudden a city that 1822 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: had an inferiority complex, you know, we're not as as 1823 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,880 Speaker 1: hip as Austin, We're not as cool as as as 1824 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,000 Speaker 1: Houston or whatever. They beat us in the playoffs. Blah 1825 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,439 Speaker 1: blah blah. He shows up and all of a sudden, 1826 01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 1: we have the guy on our team that everybody's afraid of, 1827 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 1: and he's going to war and he's not backing down. 1828 01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,519 Speaker 1: You gotta fucking kill this guy in the playoffs if 1829 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 1: you want to beat him. He shows up, he delivers 1830 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: five championships for us. All of a sudden, we have 1831 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,479 Speaker 1: that we I think he's the fifth or sixth greatest 1832 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,439 Speaker 1: basketball player of all time. We have him on our team. 1833 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 1: He allows you in your chest to feel like a winner, 1834 01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: to feel like a Champian, you know how I fee 1835 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 1: when the team that you love wins a thing and 1836 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 1: you feel like you're a part of it. It's like 1837 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 1: Jeter to New York Man, exactly exactly what you mean, Yes, 1838 01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: that's exactly. Or Cole Wilkinson and the original cast off 1839 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Lim is absolutely that's what. That's what Tim Duncan did. 1840 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,400 Speaker 1: So I love him forever for that. I hear you, man, 1841 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,679 Speaker 1: I feel like he had a lot of really good 1842 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: uh if it was the Justice League, he had a 1843 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 1: lot of good supporting characters. He's Superman. He definitely had 1844 01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 1: a Batman and it switched off between Jenoble and Tony Parker. Uh, 1845 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,920 Speaker 1: those guys were Those guys were great, but those were 1846 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 1: not players you could take and put on other teams. 1847 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 1: And they know, well Jenoble, maybe Jenoble maybe maybe you 1848 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,599 Speaker 1: know maybe Tony and his in his younger years. Anyway, 1849 01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 1: not Tony, not as much as Jenoble though, and when 1850 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 1: he shut up man and when he got there. He 1851 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 1: also had the Admiral David Robinson. Did he did that? 1852 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Big Dave did that? Dy've only got one? He got five? Yeah, yeah, No, 1853 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,200 Speaker 1: Dave got two. They've got two. None of them. None 1854 01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,800 Speaker 1: of them are as good as Mike Jaminski. All right, 1855 01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,040 Speaker 1: we gotta go. We love you, Thank you, Shay. I 1856 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,600 Speaker 1: hope he could be real friends in real life. I 1857 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 1: think you and Donald might hit it off really well. 1858 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,040 Speaker 1: I think so too. He's like, he's like, he's like 1859 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,400 Speaker 1: he was a dick when I first met him. I 1860 01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 1: got out of a little That's what I got out 1861 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: of the thing. No super super thing. Now you're on 1862 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:15,920 Speaker 1: your phone a lot. The one thing about that say 1863 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,800 Speaker 1: I got it was like down sitting between two fans 1864 01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,639 Speaker 1: and he's on his phone, like talk to your fans, Jack. 1865 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 1: Maybe this white pole little follow you on Instagram five six, 1866 01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:28,200 Speaker 1: seven eight Stories about shore we made about a bunch 1867 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:32,360 Speaker 1: of docs and nurses in Canada. Who I said, he's 1868 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:38,840 Speaker 1: a stories never should so get around you? Here are 1869 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 1: yea around here? M hm