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Speaker 1: Least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: Matt the Steelers wrapping up their final practice today. We're

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Speaker 3: open practice, I should say a walk through tomorrow before

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Speaker 3: heading to Detroit for the preseason finale. And Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 3: saying today that he's gonna play his guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, to what degree do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well, what he said was our mindset of this game,

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Speaker 3: regarding this game as a unique one, probably because we're

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Speaker 3: trying to get the best of both worlds. This is

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Speaker 3: our third preseason game, and historically the third preseason game

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Speaker 3: has been a dry rehearsal for the regulars.

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Speaker 2: Back when they played four. Yeah, like, yeah, you mentioned yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have that mentality. That's why we did the

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Speaker 3: simulated work week this week. They treated it it was

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Speaker 3: a regular season week game plans Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: This is Thursday, you know, right, as if we were

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Speaker 2: playing a week three game on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he said, But it also has some characteristic

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Speaker 3: characteristics of the old fourth preseason game, because it's the

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Speaker 3: last opportunity for some men to state their case for themselves,

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Speaker 3: to find jobs, to define roles, to show what they're

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Speaker 3: capable of.

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Speaker 2: So it's a delicate balance. Yeah, it's a little different.

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Speaker 3: But he wants to see the offense and the defense

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Speaker 3: go out there, perform well and get him the hell

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Speaker 3: out of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that makes sense, especially the offense. To me,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you need some continuity on the

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Speaker 2: old line. I think you need more snaps for the

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Speaker 2: starting quarterback. I don't know about the running back situation.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind just being a heavy quarter All Patterson game. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that would make some sense.

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Speaker 3: That was the one thing he was asked specifically about

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Speaker 3: cord All Patterson. Somebody asked him, if if you need

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Speaker 3: to see Courdio Patterson do the new kickoff rule, he goes, Now,

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Speaker 3: his resume is pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine there. Yeah. I don't even

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Speaker 2: thought of that. I thought of a maybe it's just

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Speaker 2: being a pure running back. Yeah, you know there will

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Speaker 2: be some of that. Yeah, that makes it makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: And there are a lot of guys that are still

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Speaker 2: bubble or at least need to prove themselves or you know,

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Speaker 2: firm up a roster spot. I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: i'd play the defense though, I mean if I don't

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Speaker 2: think water Cam would dress if it was up to me.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, I think i'd play everyone two series

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Speaker 2: something like that, and then work on the Nickel corners

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Speaker 2: and Peyton Wilson if he's going to play, and guys

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Speaker 2: like that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it looks like Peyton Wilson has been cleared

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Speaker 3: through a concussion protocol, so it looks like he is

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Speaker 3: going to play again.

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Speaker 2: He needs as much time as possible.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But I would like to see those because you

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Speaker 3: didn't get to see a ton of it in the

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Speaker 3: last game. Him working with Queen and like the Nickel

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they paying attention early to the last game.

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Speaker 2: They would rotate. They took a d line and friend

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Speaker 2: was the Nickel corner. I can't remember if it was

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Speaker 2: Thomas Graham. It was Graham, Okay, Yeah, I was trying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, usually you take the nose out, but Cam wasn't playing,

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Speaker 3: so there were some instances where it was ogun joe

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Speaker 3: By and it was as their pass rushers.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's the plan for the

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Speaker 2: regular season. Is he going to be the Nickel dime

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Speaker 2: covers a lot of ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Queen's going to be the dime guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Queen's never leaving the field. Wilson, Nickel, Roberts base. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that makes the most sense of using their skill sets. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a good move. It gives you a lot of

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Speaker 2: options there. Yeah. Yeah, and I think we'll see more

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Speaker 3: Then you know that nickel corner spot still has to

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Speaker 2: It worries me more and more. I mean, I still

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Speaker 2: think there could be options that are not yet presented themselves. There.

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Speaker 2: fifty yr veteran or something like that. Somebody's done it.

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Speaker 2: But if I was game playing at Serios defense, I'd

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Speaker 3: I just don't know that the opening opponent, Atlanta is

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Speaker 2: Ones to do it. Yeah, maybe they'll move London too

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Speaker 2: the slot. Maybe they'll try to get Pits matched up

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Speaker 2: on them, But overall they don't have a slot receiver.

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Speaker 2: That's scary to me. That looks like more of a

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Speaker 2: big nickel game. Hmm. Could be make some sense, especially

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Speaker 2: with their big receivers. If you count Pits as a

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Speaker 2: tight end or a receiver, that's always a gray area

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Speaker 2: like a Kelsey like that too. They'll know better about

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Speaker 2: that than Arthur Smith exactly exactly who's their second tight end?

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Speaker 2: They have a blocking type now because John Who's gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they necessarily. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: you know, we talk personnel all the time, and by

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Speaker 2: far the Falcons were lowest in the league in their

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Speaker 2: usage of eleven personnel. But if you call Pits a

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Speaker 3: All their tight end depth chartist Pits Charlie Warner, Russ Dwelly.

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Speaker 2: I think Dwelly's only a blocker. I don't know anything

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Speaker 2: about Warner. I mean, nobody that scares you here. Their

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Speaker 2: pass catchers other than the brand name guys are a

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Speaker 2: little concerning. Like I am defending Arthur Smith in that

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Speaker 2: his quarterback play was really bad. And everyone talks about

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Speaker 2: the three eighth overall picks in a row, and I

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Speaker 2: like all three of those guys. But the shot, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the other wide outs were bad. I mean going out

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Speaker 3: Right now they're starting receivers or Drake London, Darnell Mooney

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Speaker 2: Ray Rays, I think this loot. Yeah. Back to you

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Speaker 2: saying this isn't a bad game to be bad at slot,

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Speaker 2: I mean you're gonna probably get Ray.

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Speaker 3: MCOs want to get Falcons, want to come out and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even twelve one of those tight ends is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So again I think big Nickel makes a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I might want one of those safeties on

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Speaker 2: pits often. Yeah, you know, it makes some sense. But

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Speaker 2: your linebackers cover pretty well too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think you have options there on how

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Speaker 2: I would I've been given a whole lot of thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, schematically, but I would think Porter follows London,

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Speaker 2: wives and all that too. Yeah, you would think. And

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Speaker 2: their second receiver doesn't really worry me that much. No,

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Speaker 2: not at all.

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Speaker 3: Mike tom is saying that Russell Wilson will get to

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Speaker 3: start in this one good and nothing has changed in

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Speaker 3: terms of the previous He's still a pole position.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, he has officially made the announcements. I thought

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Speaker 2: we have started the show yesterday, but pretty clear who

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Speaker 2: the starting quarterback is should be. Yeah, it sure seems

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Speaker 2: to be if you're paying attention. So that's how much

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Speaker 3: You know, I think if they come out and a

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Speaker 2: I just say, success might get him out quick. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but if it's struggle maybe plays a quarter

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Speaker 2: four or five series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot, though I don't know if it gets

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Speaker 2: I play a lot of fields. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about the third and fourth guys if I'd

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Speaker 3: But I'm not interested in having Russell Wilson. Like as

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Speaker 3: soon as a Paul Isaac sam Malu, which will.

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Speaker 2: Be quickly, which is the first guy i'd probably get.

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Speaker 2: I probably get Wilson out of there as well. Pickens

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Speaker 2: it's not much around him. Maybe he gets a catcher too,

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Speaker 2: the starting quarterback in? You know, but it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like the Troy's playing their stars.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like, Yeah, it doesn't sound like they're

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Speaker 3: real interested in this game. So you're gonna go just

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Speaker 3: this one. Tomlin was asked because earlier this week Arthur

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Speaker 3: Smith said, hey, look there were Russell Will still kind

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Speaker 3: I didn't have a ton of practice time heading into it,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was gonna run no matter what

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Speaker 2: race he's in game anyway, And he said I called

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Speaker 2: different things, a different plays for him than what I

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Speaker 3: Tomin was asked today, are there any restrictions on Wilson,

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Speaker 3: He said, nope, he should be very some what I've

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Speaker 3: seen this week, he should be good to go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So a couple of things. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: this is a good test run for the play caller

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Speaker 2: with the quarterback. I mean, like, do Wilson stuff Wilson

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Speaker 2: friendly things and you know this, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: if our listeners do. I think it's cool if the

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Speaker 2: Steelers do simulate a real week, and I'm sure they

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Speaker 2: don't gain plans if it's the Ravens game or whatever,

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Speaker 2: you know, but they do simulate. You're at least looking

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Speaker 2: at formations.

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Speaker 3: You get a card out there that you're okay, this

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Speaker 3: is their four to three defense is what they like

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Speaker 2: They might have someone with a London jersey on or

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Speaker 2: a Pitt jersey they did. I mean, yeah, or whoever

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Speaker 2: this week, you know, But I think it's good for

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Speaker 2: the young guys to be like, what's an NFL week? Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe the content isn't in depth, it's not

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Speaker 2: you know, ap classes.

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Speaker 3: You're not game game planning, but you're at least taking

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Speaker 3: a look at what they're going to try to do

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Speaker 3: against you. Yeah, both offensively and defensive.

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Speaker 2: And this is what we do on Wednesdays. This is

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Speaker 2: what we do on Thursdays. You get treatment here, then

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Speaker 2: you go to lunch. Then you know you're out there

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Speaker 2: for this long and you know you got this much

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice you put veterans on the practice squad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson. This is

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Speaker 3: the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. And Matt, we

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Speaker 3: started to see some of the trades. Yeah, it started

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Speaker 2: Didn't involve Steelers, So was it.

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Speaker 3: look at that and go, why didn't we make a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's worth talking about so a couple things.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Washington thinks they're a threat to Philly

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring this up first because I think

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Speaker 2: how about a third round pick? Eah, I'll get back

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Speaker 2: you can move a seventh to a fifth. I know

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Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like a big deal, but a lot

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Speaker 3: But if I'm the Steelers, yeah, trading a third round pick?

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Speaker 2: Did you trade a third for Dotson?

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Speaker 3: You're not trading a third round pick for Johan Dotson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's why Washington's moving away from him,

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Speaker 2: He's not rugged. I mean, mclaurin's the tough guy leader,

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Speaker 2: Not because they're trying to win right this right now,

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Speaker 2: and daughter Saquon pretty good. That's pretty good. That being said, though,

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00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 2: I think I could use my third round pick for

436
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers in a better way. Yeah, that's the thing

437
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 2: to be.

438
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to give up a third

439
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 3: round pick for a guy who's the third round picks

440
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 3: a valuable Yeah, I mean that that should be a

441
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 3: future starter.

442
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 2: For you, A cheap starter probably for three years.

443
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 3: They major Dawson and let me, he averaged thirty yards

444
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 3: a game last year. I mean I think he started,

445
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 3: he played all seventeen games, and he averaged thirty yards

446
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:09,360
Speaker 3: per game.

447
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: I know, I know, And again I think his film's

448
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: better than the back of his football card. But he's

449
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 2: a certain type of receiver. I'm not sure that's exactly

450
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: even what they're looking for. You know, yeah, it makes

451
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 2: me wonder. I mean again, might Ayuk now go to Washington?

452
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think it's something to potentially consider.

453
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: This Ayuk thing still just dragged and dragged and dragged,

454
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: and they were linked to them. Why would they move

455
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: a receiver? They did draft McCaffrey, Christian's younger brother, who's

456
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: sort of similar to Dotson too, and he's their guy,

457
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: a big younger. He's a little bit tougher, a little

458
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: bit more rugged. Yeah, yeah, I mean more more also

459
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: a slot, but a little more rugged. You know.

460
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: I just wonder if some of these smaller receivers are

461
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: kind of getting phased out of the NFL a little bit.

462
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: I do think you have to block, yeah, I mean

463
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: I think every team looks at that differently, to be

464
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: honest with you, I mean, if you're special, it doesn't matter, right,

465
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: But as much as teams are getting these two high shells,

466
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, the offseason showed us that

467
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 2: guards and even running backs are getting paid better than

468
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 2: usual centers. That we need everyone to chip in on

469
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: the ground game, you know what I mean, Like, I know,

470
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 2: Alan Robinson's not ideal, but he brought value in that

471
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 2: regard last year, you know. I mean that gave him,

472
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: that got him on the field.

473
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: And I think that's what the Steelers are looking at

474
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: here right now, is that not only is Van Jefferson

475
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: an upgrade over Allan Robinson as a pass catcher, Yeah,

476
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 3: I think he can do a lot of the same

477
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 3: things in terms of blocking that you get.

478
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: The best of both worlds. Actually, here's a great example

479
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: too is I don't know if everyone remembers, but there

480
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: was a stretch not this past year, it was a

481
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: year before where Brandon Ayuk was in the doghouse with

482
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: the Nines. I mean there was a stretch there where

483
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: he was not even out there with two receiver sets

484
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: because he wasn't blocking. And then he got it through

485
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: his head. If I'm going to be a Shanahan offense,

486
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: I need to block in the run game. And now

487
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 2: he's a plus blocker, you know. I mean that that's

488
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: a big deal, you know, and makes me think even

489
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: if the Steelers don't land Ayuk, which I don't think

490
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: they will, that's gonna important to them, you know. I

491
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: don't think they want a little finesse guy.

492
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: You know, but some of these trades, you know, kind

493
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 3: of starting to happen here, and I.

494
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: Think there's'll be a lot of movement between now and.

495
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: I think too, Yeah, I think, you know, this weekend

496
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: could be very busy as a team start to figure

497
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: out who's going to be. Okay, we don't need we

498
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: don't need this guy. Can we swap him out for something?

499
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I agree. I mean, I wouldn't shock me

500
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: if a Davante Adams move happened, or one of the

501
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: Seahawks receivers moves or I don't know, I don't have

502
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 2: a great feel for the names, but certainly the Slaton's

503
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: and Robert Woods is that the receiver could easily be

504
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: on new teams too, you know.

505
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you know, in those situations, you might

506
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: as well get some thing for the player. Absolutely, the

507
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: post is just straight out releasing them.

508
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, not like Dotson's gonna get released, But in some decisions.

509
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: You're doing the player a favor if you just release them,

510
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: because then you can pick his landing spot. But at

511
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 3: the same time, you're in business, yeah, to win football games.

512
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: If you can get a six round pick for Robert Woods.

513
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, once you do it.

514
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: Jump all over and again, six and seventh round picks.

515
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: People will throw you and not get much in return,

516
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: and they're fine with it. But no, there's been a

517
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: lot of moves just the last couple of days. You know,

518
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta re signs Terrell, they go go get Simmons, they

519
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: trade for jude On. You know, like their defense looks

520
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot different than it did a little bit ago.

521
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 2: You know, Steeer coaches are probably look at that now,

522
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: like didn't play on playing against Simmons and jude On. Yeah,

523
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: but I do think there'll be a lot of moves, no.

524
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 2: Five or ten, and most of them not super noteworthy.

525
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: And sometimes you'll see these kind of swaps too, Like

526
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: we have an extra tight end, you have an extra

527
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: defensive end. It's not going to make our team, but

528
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: could make yours. Why don't we just flip them?

529
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's a move that the Carolina Panthers made with Seattle.

530
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: Seattle sends rookie inside linebacker Michael Barrett, who probably wasn't

531
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: going to make their roster to the Seahawks for cornerback

532
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson.

533
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 2: I didn't hear that, but yeah, that's a perfect type deal. Yeah,

534
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 2: that's a perfect type deal. Like, we don't have enough

535
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: room for linebackers, but we have room for corners. We'll

536
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 2: be around this guy for ten days and see if

537
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: he's good enough to be number fifty three.

538
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: You know, Jackson started seventeen games for the Seahawks in

539
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.

540
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you're got the guy that's you at least

541
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: have tape on him. It's not like the rookie swat.

542
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that you know, the Seahawks will look

543
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: at this one. We like Barrett in the draft.

544
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: And why not leave a bunch of corners. Yeah, or

545
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't fit the new scheme that the Ravens ran

546
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: or you know that type of thing too. Yeah. No,

547
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: so I think there will be some action.

548
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll see if the Steelers are active on

549
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 3: that one. The Browns traded Kicker, oh yeah, they to

550
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: the Commanders as well for a seventh round draft pick.

551
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay, and again, he definitely wasn't gonna make the team,

552
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: so you get anything for him, great. I'm sure they

553
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: just didn't want to fight the other teams that are

554
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: kicker needy, so take a seventh round pick. Sure, I

555
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: mean it's the lowest currency. Yeah, so it's a backup

556
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: kicker for one team, it's a starter for the other.

557
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: That's worth it.

558
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if Matthew Wright has any value.

559
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: He's not bad. He's been around the league.

560
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's kicked for several different teams. I

561
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: mean you start looking at what he's done here, and.

562
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: I say this a lot, and I think it's still true,

563
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: Like kicker accuracy has gone up drastically since Gary Anderson,

564
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I mean it's collectively they're better,

565
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: but then the bar is just higher and sealer fans

566
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: haven't dealt with this for a long time. But I

567
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: think there's like twenty five good kickers on the planet

568
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: and those seven, eight nine teams that don't have one.

569
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: It's hell. I mean, you're you're always looking for you know,

570
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: can I find someone I can trust? You know, I'm

571
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: just going to always change. One guy misses one kick

572
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: and you're ready to cut him again, you know, like

573
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: there's no stability and just getting a guy you can

574
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: trust is a big deal. You put it this way, right.

575
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: Has He first broke into the NFL with the Steelers

576
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. He has kicked in the league every

577
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: year since then.

578
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's an NFL kicker, Yeah, somebody. He may

579
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: not be one of the twenty five, but he could

580
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: be better than the guy that.

581
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: He's fourteen games for the Jaguars in twenty twenty one.

582
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: It was six six games in twenty twenty two, two

583
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, four with the Steelers. Last year, he

584
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: kicked in one game for the Carolina Panthers. It's made

585
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: eighty five percent of his kicks in his career.

586
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure I seems like a small thing to our listeners,

587
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: but I love the way he kicks off with this

588
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: new rule too. He has that windmill boomerang that's really

589
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: hard to field. I don't know how you do that,

590
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: is the kick or not. I haven't seen bos do it,

591
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: but that's a bit of a weapon. Maybe that's enough

592
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: to get a seven round pick for Yeah. By the way,

593
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: eighty five percent making eighty five percent of your kicks

594
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: pretty good is better than that. I'm Vinittieri in his career,

595
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: is it really that doesn't surprise me? Yeah?

596
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame future. Yeeah, he's not brown to the show. Yeah, No,

597
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 3: always the thing that I measure.

598
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: And happened to pick a kick in the dome for

599
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: like the last twenty years. Yeah.

600
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, And I wonder too, matt with with the

601
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: new kickoff rules and the kickers can't even cross the fifty.

602
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: One of this. One of the knocks on Matthew Wright

603
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: was that, well he's five.

604
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: Eleven hundred and seventy four pounds, like he's a little

605
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: undersized for maybe what you'd want.

606
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: But even the biggest matter ackling anybody, does that matter? Now?

607
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: I don't think. I mean, I think that's one of

608
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: the low down the requirements in terms of maybe if

609
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: you're drafting a guy, but if it's our guy, doesn't

610
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: put it between the uprights and right, does yeah? Give

611
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: me him? Yeah?

612
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: So I just wonder, you know, maybe it's a Detroit Lions.

613
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: Their kicker got hurt opening a training camp and I.

614
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: Don't know who what they have there.

615
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were signing guys in camp to uh yeah,

616
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: to try to be the kicker. Maybe you let Matthew

617
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: Wrch go out there in this game against the Lions

618
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: and say, hey, just leave them there, Matthew, pack a bag,

619
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: don't make it an overnight bag.

620
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I might have something here if you

621
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: can put through the uprights a few times.

622
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: Their place kicker right now is Jake Bates.

623
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: No, that is Jake Bates. I'm bad about knowing kickers

624
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: and punters, but I don't you think you'd know the name.

625
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: I don't think there's any reason to know Jake Bates.

626
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: I think Jake Bates might be a rookie. And if

627
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: you're a team like the Lions that is in it to.

628
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it's not a bad call to win this year.

629
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Did you see anyone else on this roster? Like I thought,

630
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: maybe an old lineman, but I think the herbig injury

631
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: takes that out out of the trade situation. I mean,

632
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you can get anything for Quees Watkins

633
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: or I even thought Hulcombe might be that guy, but

634
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: he's hurt, you know, like somebody that's when it comes

635
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: down to cuts, is a good player that you could

636
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: get any kind of pick for, you know, like Kendrick

637
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: Green a year ago. I'm having a hard time coming

638
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: up with. Yeah.

639
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's going to be anybody that

640
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: they end up releasing that that would fall into that

641
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: category that somebody's gonna want to trade for necessarily. I

642
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: think it's more wait for them to get cut.

643
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought before Camp open, I thought maybe herbig

644
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: would be that guy, because I think they can afford

645
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: to lose them, which he happened to get hurt, and

646
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: I think they can afford to they can overcome that,

647
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But he would have been

648
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: useful to fifteen teams out there.

649
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if if you had, if both young

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Speaker 3: offensive tackles would have been healthy. Yeah, and Dan Moore

651
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden is now your third just think

652
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Speaker 3: about him too.

653
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Speaker 2: But there would have.

654
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Speaker 3: Been some interest there because you get some other guys, especially.

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Speaker 2: Could do it Cook. Yeah, you think Cook? That makes

656
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: a team? I tend to think so, Yeah, I think so.

657
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Speaker 2: I think so.

658
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Speaker 3: So you had some young guys there though, that you

659
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Speaker 3: could have, you know, maybe today if you want to

660
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Speaker 3: give us a swap of four and fives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know we'll throw in Dan Moore. Yeah, okay, right,

662
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: right right. I just don't know that you can do

663
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Speaker 2: it now. I mean with a couple of line injuries.

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Speaker 2: I think he got what you got, yeah, which is

665
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Speaker 2: good enough at the moment. But I wouldn't want another

666
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Speaker 2: injury to hit that air line, No in any way,

667
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Speaker 2: shape or for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to get too thin too early.

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Speaker 2: No, No, so Roman Wilson, speaking of which probably is

670
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Speaker 2: on the opening roster, don't you think. Yeah, yeah, I

671
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Speaker 2: mean I think he's getting close enough. He's not gonna

672
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Speaker 2: play Saturday. No, but he's not gonna be on any

673
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Speaker 2: kind of list or anything. I don't expect it.

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Speaker 3: You know, things could happen there that, you know, maybe

675
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Speaker 3: the maybe you do something with him and see if

676
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Speaker 3: something else kind of.

677
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Speaker 2: Works its way out. But I would expect him to

678
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Speaker 2: be on the opening right, I would assume so too. Yeah,

679
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's a valuable part of the team.

680
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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know if he's even active week one.

681
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean he hasn't done anything, but who knows. Yeah,

682
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: we just don't know yet. Yeah.

683
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I thought he was starting to come around.

684
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Speaker 3: It's impressive, but he didn't get to see him.

685
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Speaker 2: At all in the preseason. So no, right, I mean

686
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: he's hard to try right now for the coaching staff. Yeah.

687
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Let's get to another break. Here is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm dale Lollie and you're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

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Speaker 3: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt looking here on

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Speaker 3: the thirty third team and this is we're going getting

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Speaker 3: ready for the start of the season here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Marcus Mosher, yep, you do some work with every

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Speaker 3: Wednesday on the Thursday vacation.

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Speaker 2: This week, well he still came out with an article here.

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Speaker 2: Good work, and.

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Speaker 3: He ranks the the each backfield quarterback or just running back. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the running back saw that, and I didn't click on

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Speaker 3: it for each team. So I thought we'd go through

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Speaker 3: that and just kind of see where the Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: right at that, what do we agree with?

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Speaker 2: Have them pretty high? They should be? Yeah, I mean

709
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: there was a very productive running back room. And I

710
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Speaker 2: think Patterson's a good player too. Yeah. So at thirty

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Speaker 2: two he has Dallas Cowboys. There's some bad ones. I mean,

712
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: like the Chargers are rough. I mean, there's a handful

713
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Speaker 2: of bad ones.

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00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: Dallas Is Clears is clearly worst.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Raiders are pretty bad too. And it's off the

716
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Speaker 2: top of my head. Uh, he has the Chargers at

717
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Speaker 2: thirty one. Yeah, I get it. At least Dobbins has

718
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: a little upside. But still I don't have much fate

719
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Speaker 2: does he. I don't know. I used to like him.

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Speaker 3: I liked him when he came out of college. And

721
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Speaker 3: he hasn't been able to get through at all season

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 2: And again, contracts matter. I mean he signed a not

724
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Speaker 2: real encouraging contract.

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Speaker 3: I mean they essentially just traded out what they had

726
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: for what the Ravens had. Oh yeah, the only difference

727
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: is you didn't bring Lamar with you in that Ravens.

728
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: The Ravens running game Andrews or yeah, is pretty dedicated

729
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: on Lamar clearing lanes for those guys.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know the exact number, but over Lamar's career,

731
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Speaker 2: the running backs that he's been on the field with

732
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: average like five point eight yards.

733
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Speaker 3: Again, because everybody's concerned about Lamar's actually tucking it and running.

734
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Speaker 2: Michael Vick's quarterbacks are the same way Vince Young is.

735
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: When Chris Johnson at two thousand yards. Not that they're

736
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: bad players, you know, like work done in TJ. Ducket.

737
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: It occupies the linebackers a little huge, huge running quarterback

738
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Speaker 2: is a big deal for the running game.

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Speaker 3: At thirty the New York Giants. Yeah, it's a bad

740
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Speaker 3: one too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've never been a Singletary believer period, and he's

742
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: their best guy clearly.

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00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, with ed Eric Gray and Tyrone Tracy.

744
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I think Tracy's kind of a sneaky fantasy dude, just

745
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: because it wouldn't be that hard.

746
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's going to be the pass catching ben.

747
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Speaker 2: I would assume he's a former water receiver as long

748
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Speaker 2: as he can protect.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine is the Raiders, And it's interesting to me

750
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Speaker 3: Las Vegas and the Giants both let their lead back leave.

751
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I meant to replace them, didn't really replace them

752
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: at all. They think Singletary's a replacement.

753
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: No, whyouldn't you draft one or you know, Yeah, like

754
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: the Raiders went out there. Their their big replacement is

755
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: Dylan Lobb, who's a six round guy out of New Hampshire.

756
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: They really did ignore them, right, come on, Raiders are

757
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: pretty bad. I mean, like za Mere White's been playing

758
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: deep into games, like they're not treating him like he's

759
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: a special player at all, because he's not. He's not right.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight Like the thing about the running backs not matter,

761
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: thing can go a little overboard. Yeah, you can't just

762
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Speaker 2: have anyone back there. Twenty eight is the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: I bet I could come up with teams that are

764
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 2: better than that. But I also have hope for Javonte

765
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: Williams to look like the two year ago version, not

766
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: last year. But that's a leap of faith.

767
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, three point six yards of carry last year.

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Speaker 2: Real quick. I might have already mentioned the Browns. They

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Speaker 2: might see them here soon. Good, okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Twenty seven the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Neither's a star.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be adequate, it might be fine. Again,

773
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: another team that let their lead back. Yeah yeah, and

774
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: you didn't really do anything to replace them. Okay, that's

775
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: a trend here. Twenty six the Arizona Cardinals.

776
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I disagree. I think James Connor is a good player,

777
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: and the reports on Benson have been bad. But he's

778
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: an early pick. I mean he's pick and fast. The

779
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: only question with Connor nine Yeah, he's never played a

780
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: full season. Sure, in his entire career, Like what happens

781
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: if he's out? Now, you don't you don't really have

782
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: you know, I if Benson isn't ready. It doesn't sound

783
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: like Benson's ready by all accounts. But I didn't dislike him.

784
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: He was a second running back drafted. Now I get it. Yeah,

785
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Speaker 2: I mean I'd have them over the Browns or probably

786
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: a couple other teams.

787
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Speaker 3: Twenty five the Carolina Panthers. I disagree with that one.

788
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't think they're awful.

789
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't think Cuba's horrible. Cuba.

790
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: Harper's like Dallas Cuba. If Miles Sanders gets cut, he

791
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: could end up in Dallas.

792
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then you get Jonathan Yeah. I don't

793
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: know how much you wait, that's kind of like the

794
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Chubb argument. How much do you weaight? The injury to Brooks,

795
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: but he was first back taken and they trade up

796
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, I mean the skill was no concern talent.

797
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: Twenty four the Washington Commanders.

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00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eckler, I don't know what to do with. I mean,

799
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: he's had such a good career, but he's really it's

800
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: a danger age. He played all year with an ankle,

801
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: so you can excuse some things away. But he was

802
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: pretty horrendous last year. And Brian Robinson to me, is

803
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: just a guy like he'd be the third guy here. Yeah,

804
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, and that's gonna be true for almost all

805
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: these guys we talked about.

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00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 3: Actually, at twenty three the Houston Texans, I'm not sure

807
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: if Pierce makes the team.

808
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: And I think Mixing looked pretty shot last year too,

809
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: no explosives at all. Yeah, he's become kind of a plotter. Yeah.

810
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: They just they look better on paper than they do

811
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: in really lie, this really isn't They just don't have

812
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: any This coaching staff doesn't seem like years. Yeah, there's

813
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: no juice in that running game. No. No.

814
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Speaker 3: Twenty two the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: I think he's vastly overrated. I mean, he's better for

816
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: fantasy than the real world because he catches so many passes.

817
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: Three point six yards of carry for Rashad White last year. Yeah,

818
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: he had fifteen hundred scrimmage yards because he caught like

819
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: ninety passes.

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00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: But so coincidentally, I say this whole the time, but

821
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast today. It was the

822
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: Former Football Outsider people and they were breaking down the

823
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: NFC South. And a huge reason for Tampa's success last

824
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: year was Baker was unbelievable and third and long because

825
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: they ran the ball so poorly. They had the highest

826
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: percentage in the league of run run pass, run run pass.

827
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: It was like fifty four percent of their series were

828
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: run run pass and the running games horrible, you know

829
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. And trying to pound your head into it. Yeah, right,

830
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: so you draft a center in the first round and

831
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: try to fix it. But the ball carriers aren't good.

832
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: No, and Bucky Irving, we'll see, he's a part time

833
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 3: player at best. To me, twenty one is New England

834
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: out of them over, out of the Browns, lower than them.

835
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, is good. You still don't dislike Gibson. Yeah, he's okay.

836
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: You've always had Gibson love, I know. I mean I've

837
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: been wrong about him more often than not. Yeah, he's

838
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: kind of straight lineish, and I mean, somebody ever wants

839
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: to give him the football. No, I wonder how well

840
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: he understands the game. I'll put it that way at

841
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: twenty but I'm a Stevenson fan. The Minnesota Vikings, Yeah,

842
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll getting in the good backfields now or

843
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: adequate one. These aren't the crap. These are different tiers.

844
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Speaker 3: I mean Aaron Jones is still good. Yeah, in a

845
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 3: certain role. Yeah, I still think he's quite good. Ty

846
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Chandler's I'm a fan. I mean there's a mix him in.

847
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Guy he's got. I mean they both have juice back,

848
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: like the Texans conversation.

849
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: What they don't have is a guy who's gonna go

850
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: out and carry the ball to hundred and fifty times.

851
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the anti Texans. Yeah yeah, uh nineteen the

852
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. I agree. I give Marcus credit for

853
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: having him that low because I think people because it's

854
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: a productive run.

855
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: I've heard people, well, Isaiah Pacheco, Chiefs got him in

856
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: the seventh round. He's better than Nauji Harris, I think

857
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: the third here. Yeah, he's not better than Nagy Hairs. No,

858
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: he's not better than Jaylen Warren. If either one of

859
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: those guys got his kind of touches in that offense to.

860
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: Be a first round fancy pick, yeah, it would be

861
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: like the fifth pick of the draft in your fantasy leagues, right,

862
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: he runs through huge holes. He's easy to root for

863
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: because he's super aggressive, like.

864
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: The Tasmanian Devils.

865
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: Going everywhere, you know, and he runs into things ra hard.

866
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: Eighteen the Buffalo Bills trending up in a big way though.

867
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: I like Ray Davis a lot me too. That was

868
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: a big takeaway from them being here those couple of days.

869
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Is their backfield like.

870
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: Ray Davis in the draft. Yeah, and he did nothing

871
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: to dispel that.

872
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: He's a really good compliment to Cook too, who's growing

873
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: on me as well.

874
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: The only problem is he's basically one contract guy because

875
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 3: he's like twenty old.

876
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but no, I like him and looks good

877
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: good yeahah yeah, he's a weapon.

878
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: At seventeen are the Browns. And here's what he says.

879
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: About that guy. I mean, that's a tough one, he said.

880
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: The Browns are arguably the hardest team to rank on

881
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: this list due to Nick Chubb's in health. If he

882
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: were If he were fully healthy, the Browns would be

883
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: inside the top five, but with his status unknown for

884
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season, they finished in the middle

885
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: of the pack. Deontay Foreman and Jerome Ford are.

886
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Capable but unspectacular.

887
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: Look for Foreman to be the lead back with Chubb

888
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: out likely at least the first month of the season

889
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: with Ford to provide some speed and juice.

890
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: Okay, they are the hardest one to rank. I one

891
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: hundred percent agree with that, But I'd have been a

892
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: lot harder on them because if it's Ford and Foreman,

893
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: they're twenty eight.

894
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: Well, he's expecting, he's expecting Chubb. I'm just to miss

895
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: the first month of the season. I don't even know if.

896
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: That's That's the thing is the only evidence I have

897
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: contrary to that is his contract is give or take.

898
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: My numbers aren't to be exact. Chubb was set to

899
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: make eleven million dollars this year. He had to take

900
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: a ten million dollars pay cut to come back to

901
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: the Brown and willingly did so. Otherwise he could have

902
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: been a free agent and gone where we wanted. But

903
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: there are incentives that he could get that ten million back.

904
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: But the incentives are like he has to lead the

905
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: league in rushing and they have to make the play.

906
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: They're like almost impossible to get, you know. So he's

907
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: a million dollar back right now, they have to win

908
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: a home playoff game. Right it's impossible that they're got that.

909
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: At sixteen the Saints, I might be lowering them too.

910
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I thought Kamara was a declining runner.

911
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara and Jamal Williams same draft classics, the Connor

912
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: draft class. I mean, that's that whole group we're talking about,

913
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: mixed and they're all declining. Yeah, and Miller hasn't done anything.

914
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Fifteen is the Jaguars. Okay, I'm coming around on Tank Bigsby.

915
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: I was a big fan a year ago, and he

916
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: was horrendous as a rookie. He also had a lot

917
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: of bad luck, like they threw him a ball that

918
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: bounced off his hands and got was a big six,

919
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: you know, like everything that could go wrong when as

920
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: wrong as possible. I think that's about fair for them.

921
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Fourteen is the Bears. They got three guys. Yeah. I

922
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: think Swift's overrated though.

923
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they have a true guy guy. No.

924
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: I think that was a really weird move that at

925
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: twelve oh one when free agency opened, Swift is the

926
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: first thing you do. Yeah, thirteen is the Rams. I'd

927
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: be lower I think that's more scheme than talent. He's

928
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: also not a big bruiser. He runs hard. Yeah, Koram's

929
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: all right.

930
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: Twelve the Tennessee Titans. This is a team that let

931
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: their running back go and actually yeah yeah.

932
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: And Spears waiting and waiting. Yeah, it's a dynamic room.

933
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't love that when we have a four point

934
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: lead on the road in the snows, Yeah, who do

935
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: we close out with? You know, they're a little too

936
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: similar to me. Eleven is the Packers. Okay, the Jacob's

937
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: had a rough year, but I think he's going to

938
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: bounce back. He's still Marshall Lloyd and AJ Dillon there

939
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah. Yeah, Ten the Pittsburgh Steel I get

940
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: that they wouldn't have a top ten back, but I

941
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: think they're a top nine backfield. Yeah, you know what

942
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: I mean. At nine is the Ravens.

943
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: I mean that's all Derek hantl Henry because the other

944
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: guys are that's He's another one.

945
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: It's hard to Racks. I mean, he's a really unique player.

946
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: I think he deserves a little bit of a Lifetime

947
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: Achievement award. And I thought he was really good last year. Still,

948
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: and Mitchell, who's kind of an exciting lightning type guy,

949
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: is too injured to count on even put him in

950
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: the mix. Yeah, he can't put him in there. Yeah.

951
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Eight is the Eagles.

952
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: All right, now we're ranking the guys the teams. The

953
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: other teams in the top ten here outside the Steelers

954
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: have a true lead back, have Pro.

955
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Bowl type guy h Yeah, yeah, yeah, and okay, I'm

956
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: fine with that with the Eagles. At seven are the

957
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Colts once again, Yeah, they have a tailor is a

958
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: quality player. Yeah, probably in his prime now too. Six

959
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: is the Jets. I think pre Sol's pretty special. Yeah,

960
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: sounds Braylen Allen is going to be the backup. But

961
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: you know, Five is Seattle. Yeah, that's a pretty nice

962
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: one too much a really good player. Yeah.

963
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: Four is the Falcons. Will you get Bejon Robinson Tyler Altiere?

964
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah again, that's that's a real nice one too, and

965
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: the one could be the best in the league. Three

966
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: is the Dolphins, And that's what we're not going to

967
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: fight about. Devin A Chain again.

968
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: No, No, it is a weird one though.

969
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: It's just so speed.

970
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all based on speed. Like if they were

971
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: playing in Green Call though, yeah, I'd.

972
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Be like, right, No, I think they're really built for

973
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: the city they play in and early in the season,

974
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: I think most it's the oldest guy in the league.

975
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: I think he's the oldest running back in the league.

976
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: He's not the oldest guy because no, no, and they

977
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: drafted a dude. But again, it's a fast, smaller guy.

978
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: But I don't expect a chin to average seven point

979
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: eight yards two is the Lions. They would be one

980
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: for me, just because McCaffrey is nothing behind him. Yeah,

981
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's I mean, he's the best back in the league.

982
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: But he's that same draft class we were talking about.

983
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: He's a Kamara draft class. He's got a calf injury.

984
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: Christian mccaff injury. I like that. I mean, Elijah Mitchell,

985
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: Jordan Mason, don't they don't do anything.

986
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. They make this team. They would make

987
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: the Lions, they would make the Bears. I mean some

988
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: of these deeper backfields, they're they're borderline backups. To me,

989
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: any of those teams that you would have had the

990
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: Steelers ahead of I different question. But I bet Mike

991
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: Tomlin and no More Kahn wouldn't trade their backfield for

992
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. I mean, Henry be really interesting here. Yeah,

993
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith might. He had a nice history together, but

994
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: he's one guy and he's twenty eight or twenty nine

995
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: years old, who was like eight and seven and eight again,

996
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: you had.

997
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: Like, I wouldn't trade Indianapolis like Philadelphia.

998
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is a conversation for me. Part of me think

999
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: Saquan's a little overrated because he was such a great prospect,

1000
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: but he doesn't do the little things all that well,

1001
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: like protection, and he still bounces a lot, you know,

1002
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: and they don't have anything behind him. Yeah, you know,

1003
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: like Bjean Breese Hall those guys. Yeah, I want that,

1004
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, right. Yeah. Yeah, So it's not a terrible ranking.

1005
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: I probably have him eighth. Yeah, that's still not bad.

1006
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Pretty strong. Yeah, not bad at all.

1007
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: That that was on the thirty third team from Marcus Moscher.

1008
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: He's a Cowboys a guy. By the way, he ranked

1009
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: him last and he got them last and nailed it.

1010
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1011
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's uh. The Steelers come in and I think

1012
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: by the end of this season we could see the

1013
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 3: Steelers be higher.

1014
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: On that list. I'd be shocked if they go backwards. Yeah.

1015
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: The little I've seen from Nausea as a ball carrier,

1016
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: he looks more spry, more explosive, and I think he's

1017
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: coming off his best year anyway. It's not like he

1018
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: had nowhere to go but up, you know. So we'll see.

1019
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: That's going to do it for our number one of

1020
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and

1021
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: I will be bad with our number two right after this.

1022
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: Don't you go anywhere