1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: This is prime Cuts, the best of mccollin Coward podcast. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Nick Right and I had a wild conversation bunch of topics, 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: boldest Week one NFL predictions to UFOs, my go to 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Cowboy insider Matt Mosley said, why this training camp is 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: absolutely different than others. John Middlecoff stops by. We discuss 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: why he's very bullish on Aaron Rodgers. But first my 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: top takes so Sean Payton fires at Nathaniel Hackett day 9 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: later regrets saying it and apologizes. Aaron Rodgers talking to 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Peter Schrager fires back at Sean Payton, calls him insecure 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: and should keep his favorite coach's name out of his mouth. 12 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: This is good, old fashioned nineteen eighty five media, before 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: everybody was terrified to be canceled and criticized, and the 14 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: avalanche that follows this happened all the time. People were outspoken. 15 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: Buddy Ryan would rip Mike Ditka, Buddy Ryan would rip 16 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson would rip Buddy Ryan, and it 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: was wildly entertaining. But there's so much money in sports 18 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: now everybody's afraid to lose their position, their job, their tenure. 19 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: Their gig. Sean Payton was in one of those moods, 20 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: an intense guy said something he regretted. The day later, 21 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers defended his coach. I loved both Peyton's willingness 22 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: to offend and Aaron Rodgers' tenacity on defending Nathaniel Hackett. 23 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: I think Hackett from what I've been told many of 24 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: my contemporaries, I've got a lot of sources in the league. 25 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Hackett's one of the nicest guys in the league. Good dad, 26 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: good father, wonderful guy. Just doesn't have an edge, doesn't 27 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: have a bite to him, and you kind of sort 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: of have to have that. 29 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, the five. 30 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Best head coaches in my lifetime, I think a Walsh 31 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: and Belichick and Andy Reid and Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells, 32 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: they've all got an edge. Bill Walsh had a bite, 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: Andy Reid had a bite. We all know Belichick, Parcels 34 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: and Jimmy Johnson had a bite. Hackett doesn't. He's a coordinator. 35 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: He's a position coach. Nothing wrong with that at all. 36 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan was a great coordinator, became a great coach. 37 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn's a great coordinator, tried the coaching, Okay, probably 38 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: gets a second chance. We don't know if he's a 39 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: great head coach. We know he's a great coordinator defensively 40 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: with the Cowboys, with Atlanta, with Seattle, or with the 41 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys and Seattle before he got the Falcons. Gig So 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: I like these little whizzing matches media scrums. I think 43 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: they're healthy. I think they're fun. Nobody gets hurt, and 44 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: the winner is you and me and the consumer. When 45 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: we lose is when people are terrified to be authentic 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: and afraid to be honest. I've been doing radio for 47 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: thirty years, almost almost thirty years, twenty five years. I'm 48 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: on the air live. Some things I say don't come 49 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: out right. Some things I say are a little harsh. 50 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Some things aren't as funny as I think. It's an 51 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: imperfect world. You take some big swings. It's not edited. 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: Not every time you ask a quarterback or a coach 53 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: and opinion, it should be fully edited. I don't want 54 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: PR people around it. Peyton didn't have a PR person 55 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: around him, and Aaron Rodgers didn't have a PR person 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: around him, and it was really really interesting raw content 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: loved them both. I kind of feel like First round 58 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: quarterback picks fall into three categories. The first is the 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: most ideal. You got yourself a star justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Mahomes, 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, And in most cases you can 61 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: identify it even if they're not playing Mahomes, even if 62 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: they've got some growth needed Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. So 63 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: that's ideal. We know who those guys are. Trevor Lawrence 64 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: bad first year, you knew he was a star. The 65 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: second one is he's not going to be a franchise 66 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: quarterback for us, but can we salvage the first round 67 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: pick show him off? The third is we got to 68 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: miss So I think Trey Lance and Zach Wilson are 69 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: both in category two. I don't think Trey Lance will 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: ever be the starting quarterback answer for the Niners, nor 71 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: will Zach Wilson ever be the starting quarterback answer for 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: the Jets. I think Aaron's around for two or three years. 73 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: I think they're both in the salvage stage and the 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: showoff stage. If I was the Niners, I would play 75 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Trey Lance a ton in the preseason, and I would 76 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: set him up for success. I'd use a couple of 77 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: starting offensive linemen, use some of your starters briefly or 78 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: top backups. Make him look good, get a fourth round pick. 79 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I've been watching this league forever, so of you. There's 80 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: always seven teams, six teams, eight teams at the bottom 81 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: that by the trade deadline can use a quarterback, especially 82 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: a young one. I think Zach Wilson's in the same spot. 83 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: He'll never be the franchise quarterback. Size, style, lack of 84 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: self awareness. He's got what Lance doesn't, a world class arm. 85 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: But I think Trey is probably a more mature guy. 86 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: So if I was a Jets, I would play Zach 87 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: Wilson every available snap. I think Zach Wilson has the 88 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: talent in the arm. It fooled Joe Douglas and many others. 89 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Somebody will give him a run, especially a team at 90 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: the trade deadline. Maybe that's off to like a three 91 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: and three start, and they're looking at it thinking, listen, 92 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: the GM and the coach may get fired if they 93 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs. You find a team that says, 94 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: we got to go for it. I think it's very 95 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: possible you could move Zach Wilson at the trade deadline. 96 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: He's had moments and games that have been impressive. Trey 97 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Lance really necessarily hasn't, so I think you have to 98 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: take a flyer on him. But Tray's a good guy, 99 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: quick learner, big body moves well. Salvag Jim So. I 100 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: think for Trey Lance and Zach Wilson. I thought last 101 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: year's biggest story in the preseason at quarterback was Kenny Pickett, 102 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: and by the end of the year I was impressed 103 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: with Kenny Pickett. I think Trey Lanson, Zach Wilson. I'm 104 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: interested to watch their preseasons. Sean McVay changed preseason for 105 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: the best or worst, depending on how you look at it. 106 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: Nobody plays their stars, nobody plays their starters. But I 107 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: think Trey Lance and Zach Wilson are really interesting stories. 108 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: Maybe not traded now, but they're in the salvage stage. 109 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Somebody's going to probably by the trade deadline, a three 110 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: and three team loses a starter. I can see somebody 111 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: rolling the dice. I mean, let's be honest. If you've 112 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: quarterback with Kyle Shanahan, a lot of people will say, man, 113 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: you bring all that intellectual offensive capital to our franchise. 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: You could sell that. You could sell that to a coach. 115 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: All right, we bring on Nick Wright. First things first 116 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: this podcast What's Right with Nick Wright? So first of all. 117 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm interrupting you. 118 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: First of all, since you keep making fun of my hair, 119 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: I pulled it back where I got a ponytail just 120 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: for you, because you keep making fun of my hair 121 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: on television. 122 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: It's very hurtful. 123 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: And I listened back to our previous podcast, which was 124 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: the first one I had done with you. While I 125 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: was drinking. I drank a couple of glasses of wine 126 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: while we were talking. I thought it was outstanding. So 127 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: now I've upped it to a nice glass of Lobos tequila. 128 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: Shout out to our friends at Lobos. So you're always 129 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: drinking during these pods. I know that I know what 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: a little sauce collin sounds like, so I figure this 131 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: should be dynamite. 132 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: But now go ahead. 133 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: Hey, I saw Oppenheim on Sunday night. Have you seen 134 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: it yet? 135 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: So I have not. 136 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: I'm I was trying to get someone in my family 137 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: to go with me, but it's three hours long. No 138 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: one will go with me, so I'm gonna have to 139 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: go by myself. But I want to see so I 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: want to see Oppenheimer, and you know my favorite movie trilogy, 141 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: you know, multi series is. 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: Mission Impossible the same. 143 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: And I haven't seen Mission Impossible yet either, because I'm 144 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: such a nerd. When I knew it was coming out, 145 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: I had to rewatch the whole six leading up to 146 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: it to really fully prepare, and so I finished that 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: this weekend. So I know everyone was talking about doing 148 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: a Barbie Oppenheimer double feature. I want to do a 149 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: Mission Impossible Oppenheimer double feature and just be blacked out 150 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: for seven hours. 151 00:08:59,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: Be amazing. 152 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm the same way. You know, Tom Cruise 153 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: is fascinating that he basically has saved theaters and now, 154 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: I mean for about seven years. He's the last great 155 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: movie star. And because of the scientology, a lot of people, 156 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: my wife included, are just out just will not even 157 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: consider talking about him. But he is really really interesting 158 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: in that he's been very real about his beliefs on 159 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: psychology and scientology, and that authentic belief has not at 160 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: all hurt him in the theater. So it's interesting it's 161 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: not hurting him at all. It hurts his reputation, but 162 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: people could easily cancel or protest him and many hate him. 163 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: And my takeaway is, if this is how popular he 164 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: is with scientology, how popular would he be or is 165 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Scientology like Twitter that story that it's like one percent 166 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: of people actually care about it? 167 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 4: Well, I think it also he this is going to 168 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: sound I don't know, this might be bad. He was 169 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: almost grandfathered in as call him an odd guy or four. 170 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: People started getting really under the microscope for stuff, and 171 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: so it would have It feels like if he would 172 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: have come out with all of the things that we 173 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: learned about him twenty years ago, eighteen months ago, it 174 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 4: maybe could have gone really bad for him. But we've 175 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: known this about Tom Cruise for so long. Yeah, nobody. 176 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: People cared briefly and then didn't. And he is a 177 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: such a dynamite talent, and that I think people I 178 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: think people typically can separate the art from the artists 179 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: to a degree like that, and then it's some there's 180 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: different lines for different people and then there so for 181 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: for a long time I would have told you my 182 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: favorite musician ever was Kanye Kanye, and there was at 183 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: no you know, for a long time Kanye was odd 184 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: or a little annoying or whatever, and then at some 185 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: point he went to me six steps beyond the pale 186 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: and the art. To me, the music got considerably worse, 187 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like. 188 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 3: Not, you know what I mean, I'm not worth it. 189 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: Tom Cruise is still awesome in every movie he makes 190 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: and has been like the same level of weird guy 191 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 4: since I was a kid. It feels like, you know 192 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: what I mean, how long ago was he jumping on 193 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: Oprah's couch? Twenty five years ago? 194 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? And so yeah there. 195 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: I mean, there aren't very many movie stars like you know, 196 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Will Smith and Tom Cruise probably the two biggest movie stars. 197 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: Will Smith not exactly a normal fella up there punching 198 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: people at the oscars like so, I don't know. 199 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, it does prove that mostly the noise doesn't matter Cruise, 200 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: and Cruise is the most criticized actor in Hollywood for 201 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: his personal views has zero impact. And that and that 202 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: you and I have discussed this. It really doesn't matter 203 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: what people say about you on social media. You either 204 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: create a show that's entertaining or you don't. Nobody cares 205 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: it just they don't care. 206 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: It is so and this I think where it matters 207 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: is if the people let it affect them. I think 208 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: that I think it becomes somewhat almost circular in that. 209 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: I think the folks who get criticized by the anonymous 210 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: masses and then it changes how they act or what 211 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: they do, then it does matter, because then they're not 212 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: You're not getting the same person. 213 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: Really. 214 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: Like, for instance, we talked about Anon Rodgers on your 215 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: show and on my show today. Where I will give 216 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: him credit is he for a guy who who historically 217 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: I think was quite thin skinned, he has not. He 218 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 4: has leaned into some of the non football things that 219 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: he has been heavily criticized for and not run from 220 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: it at all and simply said, yeah, I think my 221 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: biggest critics are the people who could benefit the most 222 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: from the things I do. Like I said that to 223 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: Peter King, he was like one of his favorite lines. 224 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: And again I'll give him credit for this. It's a 225 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: smart line, and I think there is some wisdom to it. 226 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: He says, I wish people were less judgmental and more curious. 227 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: And you know, so I don't judge him for the 228 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: ayahuasca or the Darkness retreat. I think some of his 229 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: views on modern medicine are potentially dangerous, and. 230 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of that. But he does 231 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: not run from that. 232 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: And because he doesn't run from it, like, how much 233 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: can it actually affect him? 234 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: And the answer is not really much at all. 235 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 2: You are puzzled or dismayed by the lack of UFO coverage, 236 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, so I first of all, do not believe 237 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: in UFOs. I think what happens is much like cell 238 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: phone technology, where like Norway was ahead of us. We 239 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: don't always have the best ideas. That's first of all. 240 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: There are people that have like this whole thing about 241 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: no exhaust. If there was exhaust with any of these 242 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: Pentagon pieces of video, then we would know it's not 243 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: outside the galaxy. Is it possible that some other country, 244 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: by the way, like China doesn't treat its citizens well, 245 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: they spend every penny on weaponry. Is it possible that 246 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: a Russia or a China, a non ally went out 247 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: and created it ahead of us. Yeah, that's the first thing. 248 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: Second of all, there are so many satellites in the 249 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: air now, many of them Elon Musk created. There's just 250 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: more in the sky, more moving, more blinking, and it's 251 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: very easy for something like even a plane going overhead 252 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I will sit there, have a cigar 253 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: and show my wife and be like, what is that? 254 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: And then she's like after ten minutes, she's like, oh, oh, 255 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: it's a helicopter. So I think there's two things. People 256 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: could be ahead of us, and there's just more crap 257 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: in the sky. It would also help if one legitimate person, 258 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, like Bill Clinton, came out and said, yeah, 259 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: we got UFOs. It's always like a whistleblower who heard 260 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: from another whistle blower. So that's my take. Now I 261 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: want you to take from there. You do believe in UFOs? 262 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Apparently? 263 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: No? 264 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 5: Hold on. 265 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 4: Oh wait, I want to be very clear about what. 266 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: I believe in. 267 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: I if I am not a deeply religious person, and 268 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 4: I feel like it's almost man, if you're not a 269 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: religious person, then it is just almost logically impossible that 270 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 4: we are the only intelligent life for him in a 271 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: universe that the expanse of it is, it's beyond our 272 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: own mental comprehension. There are more stars in the sky 273 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: than there are grains of sand on every beach in 274 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: the world. So there are trillions of stars in the sky. 275 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: Our sun is just one of them. 276 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: So the expanse of it. 277 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: So I do I believe there's intelligent life for them 278 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: out there past us. 279 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: Of course I do. It's impossible to not believe that. 280 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: Now that is a giant leap from there to they 281 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: have visited us, and they've stopped by, and there's you know, 282 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: they u Oposa landed. 283 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: I don't know that I believe that. 284 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: What was so concerning to me was not that I'm 285 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 4: convinced aliens are here. What was concerning to me is 286 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: the United States Congress had a hearing. The people testifying 287 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: were from the Navy, from other branches of the military. 288 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: They were not some. 289 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: Wackad, do you know what I mean, coming out of 290 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: off a bender. 291 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: They seemed to be like reputable people. 292 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 4: They clearly believed that they had either seen or had 293 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: some contact. Again, they could be wrong. Their testimony didn't 294 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: didn't concern What concerned me was, No one cared. What 295 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: concerned me was. I went the next day to the 296 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: New York Times homepage. It was not I scrolled to 297 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 4: the bottom column. There wasn't a fucking store. It wasn't there. 298 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: They had a long thing about the Appalachian Trail. They 299 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: had three articles on Trump, two on Ukraine. They had 300 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: they had they had two, they had columns about diversity, 301 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: equity and inclusion programs. All of this nothing on our congress. 302 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 4: People interviewed our military, they said, we have the UFOs 303 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: or UAPs as they called him. Didn't have an article 304 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 4: on their front page. I went to the Washington Post. 305 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: It's like, all right, maybe the Times is late. I 306 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: don't know. Washingt poasts had one article. The headline was 307 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: Congress hears that UAPs have visited Earth. Americans react met 308 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is not I'm not saying the 309 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 4: movies a real life, but I watched Independance Day as 310 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: a kid, and you know what was reassuring about that 311 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: was not that Will Smith was going to kick the 312 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: alien's ass, but it was the aliens showed up and 313 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: everybody came together, was like, this is an existential threat. 314 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: We all need to set everything aside and unite. So 315 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: what scared me was it seemed to be a bit 316 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: of a Canarian the coal mine for do we as 317 00:18:54,359 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 4: a general public have the capability anymore if something major 318 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: were to happen, to set everything down, to turn off, 319 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: like to get off our apps, to stop yelling at 320 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 4: each other and be like, oh, we all need to 321 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 4: pay attention and pull together for a common good, and 322 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 323 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: That we can't. 324 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 4: I saw it was the same thing that the The Times. 325 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: I think it was The Times this morning. 326 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: It might not have been The Times rather the most 327 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 4: street journal I don't know, but one of their polling 328 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: one of the major reputable polling things, ask the question 329 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: is it hotter than normal this summer? And the answer, 330 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: whether you said yes or no, lined up directly with 331 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: your political affiliation, and I'm like, oh, we might just 332 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 4: be fucked here. Like even it's like, hey, what's the 333 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: weather like? And the answer is, well, how do you vote? 334 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 4: Because it's say, it's hot, seems awful liberal and saying 335 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: that feels the same is awful conservative. 336 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: And that's and so people. So That's what It. 337 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: Wasn't so much that I'm convinced aliens are here. It 338 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 4: was if we get the you know, the alarms go off, 339 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the President of the United 340 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: States is on TV and is like, there's an asteroid 341 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: it's seventy two days away from hitting us. Would we 342 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: all be like, all right, everybody stop, how are we 343 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: gonna fit? 344 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: How are we gonna fix this? 345 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Or would we spend the first sixty eight days 346 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: being like, that's fease full of it. No, he's not 347 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: full of it and just yelling at each other. That's 348 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 4: what concerned me about the thing. Do we still have 349 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 4: the capability to pay attention to important things and come together? 350 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: And I don't. 351 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm not convinced we do, so I'm going to ask you. 352 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: But there's going to be an up seven week one 353 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: that is a shocker. I'm gonna tell you mine, and 354 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: then there's gonna be a team that's a shocker. So 355 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you my upset. Shane Steiken goes to Indy. 356 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: We don't know what the hell that offense is going 357 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: to look like in Anthony Richardson. Jacksonville has got some 358 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: new pieces, Calvin Ridley. They come in very confident as 359 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: a heavy favorite. It's a division rival game on the road, 360 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: and we have no idea what Shane Steiken, who with 361 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts turned him into superstars, is 362 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: that the Colts are going to upset the Jags in 363 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: week one. Colts are not a good team, but you 364 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: can be good for three hours in Week one when 365 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: the locker room is still convinced you're a really good team. 366 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: Bad teams have a lot of fight for about five 367 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: weeks until they're zero to five or one and four. 368 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: So my upset of the week, I'm going to go 369 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: with it Colts shock the world and beat Jacksonville. What's yours? 370 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: Okay? 371 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: So I don't think that's terrible. I obviously love the 372 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: Jags this year and Trevor Lawrence if I were to 373 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: pick a major Week one upset again, even though I 374 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: do not believe in this team or this quarterback at all, 375 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: with a whole off season to prepare with the real 376 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 4: thing that is a Super Bowl hangover, is it impossible 377 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 4: to believe Bill Belichick and the Patriots at home beat Philadelphia. 378 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: That's not impossible to believe that, and people freak out 379 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: and Philly will be fine. 380 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: They have too much talent, you know. 381 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: And I don't think New England's gonna be any good, 382 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: Like I shouldn't say any good. They're not going to 383 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 4: be a really good team. But that's that. I certainly like, 384 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: here's the thing, that's the Patriots getting five at home, 385 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 4: and that to me feels like that there's real value 386 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: there in the Patriots money line, because if that maybe 387 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: they lose by twenty one, and it's like, oh, Mac 388 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: is not going to be good the Patriots, you know whatever. 389 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: But if that's close, they can win that game. One 390 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 4: thousand percent they can win that game. And for Philadelphia 391 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: there is the the I think the real hurdle of 392 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: everything is going to feel a little slow motion. Ye 393 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: until later in the year, and you might eat which 394 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: wouldn't exist if they were in the AFC. There is, 395 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: as you were doing earlier, in a different way, the 396 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: sense of urgency of there's too many good, goddamn quarterbacks, like, 397 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: we better not screw around here, because there's going to 398 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: be some great quarterbacks that are on our heels or 399 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: ahead of us. In the NFC, the Eagles got to 400 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: be like, Okay, there's US, there's San Francisco, there's Dallas, 401 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: and then who are we talking about? A Vikings team 402 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: who we annihilated last year and then fell, you know? 403 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 4: So I think I think that that would be a 404 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: Week one upset. Again, I haven't really dove into this entirely. 405 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm trying to look at the other ones that would 406 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: make sense go ahead. 407 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: So I think we both picked one because that was 408 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: my second choice. By the way, that was my really yeah, 409 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: oh fun. Okay, now you have to have a wow 410 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: prediction on a team, Okay, like somebody's gonna shock us. 411 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna argue Carolina. So I think Frank Reich is 412 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: really good. They built an excellent staff. It's a bad division. 413 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: I don't trust the coach of the Saints. They have 414 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: an excellent front seven. The corners are good but beat 415 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: up that are now healthy. They ran the ball effectively 416 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: last year. The O line is young and emerging, and 417 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: Bryce Young is really smart and capable. He may have 418 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: a lower ceiling, but he'll be good in week one. 419 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: I think week one, Week two, week three, you're gonna 420 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: look at Carolina and you forget last year that defense 421 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: was nasty. I think Carolina has a chance to win 422 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: their division. 423 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: That is my wild pick. 424 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So. 425 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: My only antie on that is I don't like tiny 426 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: football players, and Bryce Young is tiny. That's my concern. 427 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: It just a general belief of just so. I'm not 428 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: going to tell you the team, but if I were 429 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: to tell you, a team's first handful of games are 430 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: against the Bears, Falcons, Saints, Lions, Raiders, Broncos. That is 431 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 4: their first what was that five six games green Bay, 432 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: could they get out to a great start. I think 433 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: the answer is yes. I think that that team is 434 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: there is going to be a bit of a deep 435 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: breath sigh of relief that the Aaron Rodgers stuff is 436 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: just done with do I think there is going to 437 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: be a real chip on their shoulder of. 438 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 3: Man, this guy sure love. 439 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 4: It's almost the the the person who's you know, spouse 440 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: left them and then you see that the spouse and 441 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: you know is giving interviews some about how in love 442 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 4: they are with their new person, like, hey, I was 443 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 4: great to you, like and like a little bit of 444 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: oh really. 445 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: I think Lafoor is a good coach. 446 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: I think that division is open in this regard. 447 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: I think the Vikings are good. I think the Lions 448 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 3: are good. I don't think there's a great team and 449 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: the Lions, you know, everyone gas to the floor on 450 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: the Lions concerns me a bit. So I think green 451 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Bay being you know, a nine win, ten win team 452 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: and maybe finding a way into the playoffs because in 453 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: the NFC finding seven playoff teams is not easy. So 454 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: I think Green Bay is a viable thing. I want 455 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: to kind of turn it on its head. Because everybody. 456 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: I shouldn't say everybody. People talk a lot about who's 457 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 3: going to be the team that jumps up and shocks people. 458 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: It's like, oh man, they're good. 459 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: We rarely put out there who's the team everyone thinks 460 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: is going to be good that is going to fall 461 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 4: flat on its face. I think it's going to be 462 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: the Jets. I think that people have and the Jets 463 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 4: it's the exact, by the way, same reason. The Broncos 464 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: were my pick for that last year, and I was right. 465 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 4: But it's a lot of the same recipe. A wide 466 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: receiver corps that is wildly being all of a sudden overrated. 467 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: People last year we're talking about the Bronx are like, 468 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 4: oh my god, all these weapons, and I'm like, I 469 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 4: like Jerry Judy, fine, but in the wide receiver position 470 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: has never been better than it is right now. He's 471 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 4: not even close to one of the ten best in 472 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 4: the league. And then I and then it was like, 473 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: oh no, all these guys. People are talking about the 474 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: Jets weapons like they're great. Garrett Wilson had an awesome 475 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 4: rookie year. Okay, Alan Lazard was a below average number 476 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: two with Green Bay last year. Hardman's their three. And 477 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: so if we're talking about weapons just in the AFC, 478 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: Cincinnati's is better. The Chargers are better, the Dolphins are better. 479 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: I would argue the Raiders are better. The Bills are 480 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: right in line with them. So we're so they're running 481 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: backs coming off in ACL, they're two. They have two 482 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: left tackles. One has barely played two years because of injury. 483 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: The other is thirty eight years old, literally thirty eight 484 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: years old. And Dwayne Brown. I don't think the coach 485 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 4: is great the Jets. And also the other thing for 486 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: the Jets is while the end of the year is 487 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: very soft, how are the Jets, who are, keep in mind, 488 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: on a six game losing streak from last year, going 489 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: to react if they start? 490 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: What are they going to start? When it is. 491 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: Bills, Cowboys, Patriots, Chiefs and all of a sudden, big 492 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: game against the Broncos, then Eagles. That first six games, 493 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: you have the Bills, the Cowboys, the Chiefs, and the Eagles, 494 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 4: and your easy games are the Patriots who have beaten 495 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: you for seven years in a row every single time, 496 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: and then the Broncos that all of a sudden is 497 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: a blood feud because your dear friend Sean Payton went 498 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: to scorch tarth on him. Yeah, that is not an 499 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 4: easy opening set. So I think the Jets are the 500 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 4: team that is not going to meet expectations. 501 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: This was fun. 502 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: We did an hour almost we did fifty. 503 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 4: You got to think about which team's gonna sometime, either 504 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: on the volume or on the show. 505 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: You don't have to tell me now. 506 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia is going to be good, but nine 507 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: win good, not thirteen win good. I think they're gonna 508 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: be in a dog fight with Dallas for the title. 509 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: I think they're pulling back. And by the way Shane 510 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: Stiken leaves, they lost multiple linebackers O lines getting Yeah, 511 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: they oh line's old, still good, but it's older. They 512 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: faced a conveyor belt of awful quarterbacks, I mean awful, terrible, 513 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: and then they got to brought pretty break in the playoffs. 514 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: It's like, and every good quarterback after Week two lit 515 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: them up, every single one. 516 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: My takeaway is Philadelphia is really good, but they don't 517 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: feel like the Bully, you know, the broad Street Bully, 518 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: that former Flyers team. 519 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: They don't like. 520 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: Last year they were beating teams like a college team, 521 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: beating teams by thirty. I think they're going to be 522 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: in a lot of close games. I think Dallas can 523 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: line up with them. I think there's a lot of 524 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: teams that can line up with them. And I think 525 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is terrific, but I think he'll pull back 526 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: and I think he'll have to play from behind occasionally. 527 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I love Jalen, but good God, when you 528 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: play with a twenty point lead in the second quarter, 529 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: it's just a different environment than trailing late in the third. 530 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: It's a different position. So I think Philadelphia is good, 531 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: but doesn't look nearly as good as last year. 532 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: I think that's the I buy the way. I by 533 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: the way, I agree with. 534 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: That I I am. I'm gonna say this, hold on. 535 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: You can keep this in, but don't have your people 536 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: put this specific thing on social This is a special 537 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: thing for you, for me, to you, for the people 538 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: that made it. At the end of the podcast, I 539 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: am ninety percent sure. I'm obviously picking the Chiefs in 540 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 4: the AFC. It's gonna be hard to pick against a 541 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: team that's literally gonna go win three straight Super Bowls. 542 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go ahead and go with them. 543 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: In the NFC, I I really think I'm picking Dallas 544 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 4: like I don't think the Niners like I just I 545 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 4: don't think the Niners can. You can't just have nobody's 546 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: at quarterback for every year and just have it worked. 547 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 4: At some point, it's got to just bite you. And 548 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: the fact that your guy Mike Silver's like, hey, Trey Lance, 549 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: he's throwing one hundred and twenty passes. 550 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: They might cut him. I'm like, are you what's and man? 551 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: And and Shanahan's like, hey, I'll turn Sam Darnold into 552 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 4: Steve Young. I'm like, Okay, I picked the Niners who 553 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: go to Super Bowl last year. I'm not doing it 554 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: this year. So I'm doing the Niners. And the Eagles 555 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 4: I thought were a good but not great team last 556 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: year that got hot. Had you know they had more 557 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: Saxony teams since eighty five Bears? They going to duplicate that. 558 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: I don't think. So the quarterback thing is real. So 559 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: if it's not nine Ers Eagles, who is it? Like? 560 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Literally, am I picking Gino Smith to go to the 561 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? 562 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: No? Am I picking Jared Golf to go to the 563 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: Super Bowl? No Am I picking Kirk Cousins. No, I 564 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: know it's become very in vogue to say Justin Fields 565 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: one of the five best quarterbacks in football. I'd like 566 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: to see him play five great quarters before I'm ready 567 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: to say that. 568 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: So, so we're running. 569 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: Out of teams. I think I'm gonna pick the Cowboys, 570 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: which is so weird because I'm not the corner of 571 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: people in sports media that are either I feel like 572 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: eighty five percent of sports media is well established pro 573 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 4: or anti Cowboys, and then there's a handful of you 574 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: me a couple others that's like, ah, I you know, 575 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: I find them interesting, but I don't love them. 576 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 3: Or hate them. 577 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: But I think I'm going to pick them to go 578 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl. I just think I am. I 579 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: just I'm running out of sea in the NFC signing 580 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: Chiefs Cowboys Super Bowl, highest rated ever, Mahomes going for 581 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: back to back Cowboys and for the further it would 582 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: be uh Dyan Chiefs going for twenty and oh versus 583 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: the Cowboys, Oh boy, oh boy. 584 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: All right, My guy, Matt Mosley Doomsday podcast with Ed Order. 585 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: He's been embedded with the Cowboys and Oxnard. It's hot 586 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: as you know what in California. We usually first of all, 587 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: it rained like Seattle in the winter, and now it 588 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: feels like Louisiana in the summer. It's humid and hot. 589 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: So what you know, You've been to so many of 590 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: these things. This feel like just another one. No, I mean, 591 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, I have been to a lot of them. 592 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, nobody cares about any southern California 593 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: heat wave. I landed back in Dallas at one oh five. 594 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 5: All right, It was one oh one at about nine 595 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 5: o'clock when I landed, about one hundred or. 596 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: Something like that. Oh yeah, so speaking a hundred. 597 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 5: I just came from my grandmother's one hundredth birthday celebration. 598 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: All right, Wow, Francis Hendricks Lawrence has turned one hundred. 599 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 5: So pretty neat, pretty neat. 600 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: What's the secret to her life? Boy, it's been a 601 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of clean living. 602 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 5: Involved in that church secretary for many many years, had 603 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 5: about a twenty five year run there. But just she 604 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: comes from a long line of people who live a 605 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 5: long time. And when my grandfather passed away, I don't know, 606 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 5: sixteen seventeen years ago, just never missed a beat. It 607 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 5: was just kind of like, you know what, I got 608 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 5: to keep rolling here, and so as of today even. 609 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, she's just she was the bell of the ball. 610 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 5: Everybody came, you know, she had something to say to everybody. 611 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 5: She knew who everybody was, and so it's pretty pretty 612 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: awesome to watch and we're extremely fortunate. 613 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: So how does this camp feel different? 614 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: You know? 615 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 5: I think the McCarthy thing makes it different. With the 616 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 5: play calling, He's handling himself in a different manner than 617 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 5: when I've been around him. And I think Jerry with 618 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 5: each passing year and Jerry's into his eighties now, I 619 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 5: think Jerry sometimes has a little bit different way about him. 620 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to call it an edge, really, but Jerry, 621 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 5: for one of the first times that I can recall, 622 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 5: was all business at the State of the Union addressed 623 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 5: to start. You know, he's generally known for saying something 624 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 5: off the wall in that in that setting, and he 625 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 5: didn't even make an opening statement. I mean, we're all set, 626 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 5: you know, we're set up to hear him talk before 627 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 5: anybody ask a question for at least twenty minutes, and 628 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 5: literally they just started the news conference and he said, okay, 629 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 5: let's go, let's go some questions. 630 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: What do y'all have? 631 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 5: So there's all it's I think it's hard to have 632 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 5: a sense of urgency. There are better places to have 633 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 5: a since an urgency than in Auxnard because of where 634 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 5: we're used to being and how it feels and how 635 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 5: much nicer it is and the surroundings and everything. But 636 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 5: I mean McCarthy met with his player counsel the night 637 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 5: before that State of the Union and got a vibe that, 638 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 5: I mean, the team sort of has a little hedge 639 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 5: and they don't even have the pads on yet. 640 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: Pads come on tomorrow. 641 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 5: So to me, there was a little more edginess from 642 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 5: the team To start a training camp. It's usually very 643 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 5: laid back, not much going on, and I think they've 644 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 5: since that, you know, a couple of twelve wins seasons, 645 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: not being able to get by San Francisco, Like if 646 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 5: they're ever going to do it, like. 647 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: It almost has to be this season. 648 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: Well, Zach Martin, tenth year in Dallas, eight time All 649 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: Pro Jerry said, I'm not budgeting on the contract. This 650 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: is one of the rare times I support Jerry. They 651 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 2: made him the highest paid guard when he signed. He 652 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 2: was for many of the years of his contract. He 653 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: has made more money than any guard in the NFL, 654 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: that's been in the league for ten years, and he's 655 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: got a couple of years left on his contract. And 656 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, Patrick Mahomes right now is the seventh highest 657 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: paid quarterback. Is do you think that's a I don't 658 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: think Jerry should budge, but do you think this could 659 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 2: get ugly surly? 660 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 4: No? 661 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 5: Because Zach is not really he's not up to that. 662 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 5: Zeke was willing a few years ago to stare Jerry down, 663 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: and Znac doesn't have that in him. And I'm not 664 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 5: even saying what Zeke did was wrong. Zeke did it 665 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 5: because he knew his value. And the Cowboys cratered. They 666 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 5: know they don't have to. I mean, like you know, 667 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 5: if Zach truly didn't show up, I mean, that's that's 668 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 5: a big problem. You can't start the season without your 669 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 5: all pro right guard. I mean, they don't really have 670 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 5: anybody to turn to in that regard. I heard in 671 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 5: Jerry's voice was the fact that, hey, there's two years 672 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: left on his contract. 673 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: What's he talking about? 674 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 5: And and to your point, Colin, he got his rookie contract, 675 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 5: he's a first round pick, and then he got another contract, 676 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 5: and so Jerry's kind of right, like I mean, everybody 677 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 5: loves Zach and it's not like and the other thing 678 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 5: is he's a veteran and he's so good and he's 679 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 5: so good at staying prepared that I don't know any 680 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: other position, you know. And Zeke came in and was 681 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 5: kind of ready to go at the last minute. This 682 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 5: guy could be so I don't I don't sense any worry. 683 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 5: And I think you know, you heard Dak say. Dak 684 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 5: was quoted saying, hey, the man talking about Zach and 685 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 5: Jerry was asked about that, and Jerry had a very 686 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 5: funny answer, which was, well, we pay the quarterbacks all 687 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 5: the money. 688 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: That is funny. 689 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 2: By the way, I saw that Zeke visited the Patriots. 690 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: You you said Zeke was a little bit the soul 691 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 2: of the locker room. Now that he's gone, do you 692 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: still believe that? 693 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. 694 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 5: He was sending messages to the team on the eve 695 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 5: of their first practice. I think in the meeting room, 696 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 5: the running backs, they're still hearing from him. Tony Pollard 697 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 5: still brings him up. I mean, people are still there's 698 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 5: still an aura about him. Now he had faded some 699 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 5: of his playing ability, So you're okay, moving away from 700 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 5: that but yeah, there's still some there's still and that's 701 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 5: what the call that Bill Belichick made was to Stephen Jones, 702 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 5: and he just wanted to know kind of where Zeke 703 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 5: was and ed and I had a chance to go 704 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 5: one on one with Steven or two on one, and 705 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 5: that was one of the things Stephen talked about, was 706 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 5: just his how he went on and on about Zeke 707 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 5: and what he could mean in one of those running 708 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 5: back rooms. So, I mean, it tells you all you 709 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 5: need to know, though, on how much he has left 710 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 5: in the tank, on the fact that he's still out there. 711 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: He's a workhorse, He's played through all sorts of injuries. 712 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 5: I mean he's not I don't know if he's anywhere 713 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 5: close to a lead back anymore. I mean, it's one 714 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 5: of the few positions you can go from. Think about 715 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 5: that last year the starter, even though Pollard took over, 716 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 5: he was almost a symbolic starter. This year, he can't 717 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 5: even get a role on a team. He can't even 718 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 5: get out there, right. But Belichick has had a way 719 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 5: over the years of taking chances on certain veteran players 720 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 5: that maybe have some deans on their character. This guy, 721 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 5: he had some issues obviously, he was suspended for. 722 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Several years ago. But in terms of like. 723 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 5: What the players think of him and the coaches, other 724 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 5: than maybe Dak, there's no one who approaches Zeke in 725 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 5: that regard. 726 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: Colin Pads are a poppin' football. It's kind of unofficially 727 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: here preseason games, but week one, we're almost a month 728 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: away from that Thursday Night doo zi of Dan Campbell 729 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: versus Andy Reid. 730 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Dan Campbell. Andy's been 731 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: the best September coach in football. You know, I thought 732 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 2: there was something interesting. So Andy all off season has 733 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: been saying we're gonna put more on Patrick Mahomes plate. Okay, 734 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: we're gonna put more on his plate. The Chargers get 735 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore inside the building. The feeling is with Lombardi. 736 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: They weren't they weren't giving him enough on his plate. 737 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore is gonna put more on his plate. I 738 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 2: read a quote today about Dak Prescott where they're trying 739 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: to make the cowboy offense Dak friendly take more off 740 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: his plate, and my takeaway on that, John, you're a 741 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 2: scout in this league is time out. The great ones, 742 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: the Mannings, the Mahomes just keep throwing layers of stuff 743 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: at him. Dak, They're pulling stuff off the table. I 744 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: hate the sound of that. So Schottenheimer's a conservative OC. 745 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: Mike tends to be a conservative OC seven to twelve 746 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: and one in his last twenty games play calling. That 747 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: was one of those. Doesn't it sound like much? Didn't 748 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: love the comment by Dallas. 749 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: I would say this, Colin, just because you pay a 750 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: guy a premium doesn't mean he's a premium player. And 751 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: once Dak got that forty million dollars a year contract 752 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,479 Speaker 1: didn't change his limitations. I would though, the last two years, 753 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have lost right in two years ago in 754 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: the first round, in this year in the second round 755 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers, and I think they started 756 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 1: seeing themselves we're a defensive team because we could hang 757 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: with their physicality, and last year they did. They went 758 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: blow for blow. It was like to Mike Tyson's hitting 759 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: each other. It was the most physical game of the playoffs. 760 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: But they lost because Dak did what Kyle Shanahan never 761 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: allows his quarterback to do, for the most part, is 762 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: ruin the game. He threw the picks, so you always 763 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: had the stat when Zeke before he fell off a cliff, 764 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: was like, run the ball, don't get too pass happy 765 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: with Dak. That's when he kind of turns into a 766 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: more of an average quarterback. If you can keep him 767 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: probably in the high twenties attempts, you got a chance. 768 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: Especially with how good their defense is. And I would 769 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: say that their defensive coordinator has turned in right there 770 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: with Vic Fangio right as just their defensive personnel as 771 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: one of the betters in the league. So they can 772 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: play a game that most teams can't because most teams 773 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: don't have very good defenses. So if you don't turn 774 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: the ball over, like I think, I'm going to pick 775 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win the division, and not because I 776 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott is better than Jalen. I just think 777 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: they have like they kind of know who they are 778 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. With the Cowboys, 779 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: they're always kind of fighting one side of the other 780 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: and they don't have a clear identity. I think they 781 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: do have an identity now and if to me, it 782 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: just comes down to Dak Prescott and not turning the 783 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: ball over, because if he doesn't turn the ball over 784 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers, the forty nine ers lose 785 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: that game. 786 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 2: Well, there's an I don't have it in front of me. 787 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: With Dak Prescott, he wins almost eighty percent of his 788 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: starts when he doesn't have a turnover, which is not 789 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: abnormal for many quarterbacks. But what happens when he has 790 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: just one or more he wins like thirty percent of 791 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: his games, is that it's like Lebron James. Lebron James 792 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: could have a bad shooting night and still be the 793 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: most impactful player on the floor because he does so 794 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 2: many things. Well, Dak's not talented enough to overcome a turnover. 795 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 2: He's just not. Brady has won super Bowls with pick sixes. Right, Mannings. 796 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: Both Mannings have had a high interception years, farve huge 797 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: interception years, and they win the division. Dak, the margins 798 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: are tight. It's a little mac Jones, it's a little 799 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. Server brings down the wind total. Well, what's 800 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 2: where Matt Stafford is I think sometimes talked about not 801 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 2: in that top five to six, but in that next 802 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 2: crew guys. His physical attributes and talent is far superior 803 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 2: from kind of that group, right, because he's gonna turn. 804 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: The ball over, But at any moment. He could throw 805 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: four touchdowns in a half. He can stretch the field 806 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: in one play, throw the ball, you know, forty fifty 807 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: plus yards with his eyes closed. It's why you remember 808 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when the Warriors, I think 809 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 1: they won fifteen games. Steph got hurt, Clay got hurt, 810 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: Kevin had just left, and they just fell apart. I 811 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: know you know you're down in LA. You're close to 812 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. Cooper Cup already injured. They are very dependent 813 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: on like three guys, and if those three guys are healthy, 814 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: they can be competitive because they got a really good coach. 815 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: I think the Rams have a better chance of competing 816 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: for Caleb Williams than they do a playoff spot. I 817 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: think they're going to be really bad because I just 818 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: think it's inevitable. Their players are a little older now. 819 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: Stafford with the elbow, how often, you know, we see 820 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: it all the time in baseball players. Once the alball 821 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: starts getting messed up, it kind of goes. We saw 822 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: in Roethlisberger the elbow never the same. So Stafford's Cooper 823 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: Cup now injured last year, injured again. Now Aaron Donald 824 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: all time great player, but he can only do so much. 825 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: We've seen great defensive players on shitty teams. I mean, 826 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 1: JJ Watt's been a great player on bat You can't 827 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: this isn't the NBA. So to me, the Rams, their 828 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: margin feir is so thin just with the depth of 829 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: their team, and we're already seeing the injuries happen, and 830 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: last year it happened and they were got awful. They 831 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: just happened to not have their pick. I don't see 832 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: why they think about the division. We know Seattle's going 833 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: to be really competitive. Obviously the forty nine Ers are good. 834 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: Even if Arizona stinks. They play the NFC East, so 835 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: you get three playoff teams in Washington's feisty and they 836 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 1: played the AFC North, so you're getting the Steelers, the Ravens, 837 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns, even if they're not a playoff team, 838 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. And then obviously what team 839 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals, So I mean, he's got a really, really 840 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: good ye that's a lot. That's a tough schedule. 841 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: So I came out and said I had a very 842 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 2: good sol or so did Jason McIntyre. That we heard 843 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 2: the Rams tried to restructure the Matt Stafford contact contract. 844 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: I was shocked when a member of the executive team 845 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: for the Rams came out and made a point of 846 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 2: Times La Times article saying this is not true. These 847 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 2: reported taking a shot at me. Two days later, Matt 848 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: Stafford announces, Yeah, we tried to restructure my deal in 849 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 2: the off season. The Rams are trying to fool us. 850 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 2: They had discussions, they wanted to restructure the deal, they 851 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 2: couldn't and had to move off people. They like Matt. 852 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 2: But Bucky Brooks told me yesterday and I've heard this, 853 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 2: if Matt gets banged up, they're drafting a quarterback with 854 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 2: a first pick. They know how good this draft is. 855 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: They look three years ahead of time, and the feeling 856 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 2: is this is the best draft in a four year window. 857 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 2: The best quarterback draft next year. Last year wasn't good, 858 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: The following year afters not great. So you get about 859 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: two great quarterback drafts every decade. Like four first round 860 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: guys next year is that draft. And there's a belief 861 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 2: even if Stafford plays pretty well and they're like a 862 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,720 Speaker 2: seven to eight win team, they'll be four guys. They'll 863 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: be able to get a Quinn yours, a Michael Pennix 864 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 2: junior at like twelve or thirteen or fifteen in the draft. 865 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:29,120 Speaker 2: So I think the Rams. You know, if you go 866 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 2: like and look at Kansas City last year, they had 867 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: a star offensive coach, a star quarterback, a good enough 868 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: O line, one star weapon, great defensive player, good linebacker, 869 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: and kids everywhere. That's a little Rams Ish Ernest Jones, 870 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Cooper Cup, Matt Stafford. The difference, is h McVeigh, 871 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 2: is that the Chiefs players are all in their prime, 872 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: and to your point, the Rams star players are all 873 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 2: coming off injuries. So I do think their margins are thin. 874 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 2: I'm just fascinated to watch Matt Stafford because he took 875 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 2: a lot of hits in Detroit. He just rented a 876 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 2: gorgeous house on the beach in Los Angeles, and the 877 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 2: feeling is last year to in LA. He wants to 878 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: have some fun. He knows it's not going to last forever. 879 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: Can I Sometimes it's unfair, right when a social clip 880 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: comes out of your show. I didn't see the whole take, 881 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: but you've had you nailed the Baker Mayfield thing from 882 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: the start. You had to take. He's in part of 883 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: probably the most irrelevant quarterback competition in the history of 884 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: the league. Right now in Papa, I mean, absolutely no 885 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: one cares. And you, I think you came out and said, 886 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, he should retire, Yeah, because he's got he's 887 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: head right to college football and be a star. I 888 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 1: think that's kind of crazy just because he's making four 889 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: million dollars. He wouldn't make four million dollars put away 890 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: on TV. And he's got a chance if he can 891 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: do this for a couple more years. But clearly he's 892 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: headed toward and overall, and think about college football. I 893 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: never saw Kirkhurbstreet throw pass. I don't remember a class pass. 894 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: And Matt Lioner, who I think is really good, obviously 895 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: had a very very you know, underwhelming NFL career right 896 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: for his college status, I think Baker. But clearly Baker's 897 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: career is headed nowhere fast. In this Tampa team, I mean, 898 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: they're definitely circling the Caleb wagons, right. They want a 899 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: big part of that. It's I aunsw theer's twofold. Were 900 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: you being dead serious on that? The retirement? And two 901 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: have you ever nailed to take harder than because I 902 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: think the Johnny Manziel a lot of people Baker was 903 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: a guy number one overall. Yeah, I was wrong because 904 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: I thought it really taught me over the last couple 905 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: of years. I thought he could be Drew Brees. Well, 906 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: a huge part of Drew Brees was the character and 907 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: the intangibles. And look at all the star quarterbacks. Now, 908 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: the intangibles are have to be off the charts even 909 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: for the average guys. We'll let alone the stars. 910 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, NFL scouts liked Sam 911 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 2: Darnold too, so I missed on Donald. I think Johnny 912 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 2: Manziel I kneeled, Baker, I kneeled. I didn't like Zach 913 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: Wilson at all. I said he was going to be 914 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 2: a boss, so he didn't. But I like Sam Darnold, 915 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 2: and I still think if Donald got competent coaching and 916 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 2: started in San Francisco, he could be a playoff quarterback. 917 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: But he does have a slower delivery and he tends 918 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 2: to be a hero ball quarterback. He wasn't usc and 919 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: he's not that athletic. He's athletic, he's not Josh. He's 920 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: like a poor man's Josh Allen. Athletically, he's big strong, 921 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 2: He's not that big and strong. I was being serious. 922 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: My takeaway is there are people that aren't built to 923 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 2: be backups. Cam Newton, Baker, Mayfield, Tim Tebow. They're too big, 924 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 2: too many commercials, they're too big. You want Colt McCoy, 925 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 2: you want Tyrod Taylor. Baker is too big to be 926 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,799 Speaker 2: a backup. So if he loses to Kyle Trask, he's 927 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 2: still got a chip on his shoulder a mile long. 928 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: Last week, he was quoted saying in front of a camera, 929 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: I don't need anybody to tell me how to play quarterback. 930 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 2: It's who he is. So he's too big of a personality, 931 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 2: too much edge to be a backup. 932 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 5: Right. 933 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: I always said a backup quarterback should be able to 934 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 2: put a baseball hat on in the mall and dark 935 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 2: sunglasses and be unnoticeable. Colt McCoy, melt tbo can't do that. 936 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: Cam can't do that, and Baker can't do that. Secondly, 937 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 2: he's making four million a year, but to be a 938 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 2: top analyst at a football network you'd make about two 939 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 2: two and a half. And the truth is you don't 940 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 2: want to become a punchline. And if Baker plays for 941 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: two or three more years and this year goes, you know, 942 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 2: starts and goes one to eight and gets hurt. And 943 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 2: by the way, he's led the NFL in interception since 944 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: he entered the league two and eight last year. If 945 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 2: he went owen six this year and that means he 946 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 2: went two and fourteen and his last sixteen NFL starts, 947 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 2: he becomes a complete utter punchline. Sam Darnold failed, Baker failed. 948 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: They're not punchlines like people still like Sam and Baker 949 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 2: got to a playoff. So my takeaway is protect your brand. Also, 950 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 2: money's not that big for him because he took every 951 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: available penny with all those insurance commercials. So if I 952 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 2: was his agent, I'd be like, dude, if you lose 953 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 2: the job to Kyle Trask, they're trying to lose privately 954 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 2: in Tampa. You get to one in five, John, they're 955 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,439 Speaker 2: moving pieces at the trade deadline. They've got players for sure. Now, yeah, 956 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 2: they do. Arizona may not do that because if Kyler 957 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 2: Murray comes back in week six, they don't want to 958 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: bail on him and get him hurt. Right, They don't 959 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: want him to get hurt because even if they were 960 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 2: moving off him, hard to trade him if he's injury played. 961 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 2: If they lose their first four in Tampa. I mean 962 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 2: that front office. They're playing Trask. Baker couldn't beat out Trask. 963 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 2: They're moving pieces. Guys can get hurt. So I'm dead serious. 964 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 2: I would say, if you can't beat out Kyle, I'd retire. 965 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 2: I'd call the networks, take a year off practice, go 966 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 2: to these companies, say I want to get good at 967 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: this and go be a rock star. 968 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm in agreement on the backup quarterback. You get too famous. 969 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 1: I also think that happens sometimes when you're a former, 970 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: really really high pick in a short period of time. Right, 971 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson would fall under that. But Aaron is such 972 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 1: a star, he's already irrelevant. No one cares. That's where 973 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is kind of interesting, right, because you have 974 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: Brock Purdy who was mister irrelevant, and even Sam Darnold's 975 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: making three million dollars. Well, Brock Perty's the starter and 976 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. And they still got a lot 977 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: of camp left. They got some joint practices, and like 978 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: you said, the preseason games, I would imagine Trey's gonna 979 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of juice and maybe clearly he's improved 980 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 1: his mechanics a little bit. But threw a bad pick 981 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: today at practice. You never know. It's a fluid situation. 982 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm a believer that Sam's going to win the job 983 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: because Kyle had already had that in his mind coming 984 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: into the year. It's why they convinced Sam, who had 985 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: other opportunities to come to a place with like ten quarterbacks. 986 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 1: He didn't miss randomly come So is Trey Lance, and 987 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: it's not his fault. He makes nine million dollars, that's 988 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 1: his draft slot. But there can't be there's not going 989 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: to be a team in the NFL there's gonna have 990 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: a nine million dollars third string quarterback. But the forty 991 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: nine ers have had all these quarterback injuries that they 992 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: probably just roll with it. And he's a high character guy, 993 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: so they're not really worried about that. But it is 994 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: a bizarre situation for a team that, let's face it, 995 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 1: has kind of one goal in mind, and that's, you know, 996 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: to get to the big dance and win the thing. 997 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not Anthony Richardson's plant. They don't care 998 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: if they They're just going to try to figure it out. Right, 999 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: you see a lot of these young quarters that is 1000 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 1: not what the Niners are in They're in win now 1001 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: mode and win big. 1002 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 2: There are a lot of these young coaches, McVeagh and 1003 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 2: Shanahan among them. They kind of want you to do 1004 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 2: what they tell you to do, Like they both love 1005 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. McVeagh and Shanahan both love Kirk Cousins. Lamar 1006 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 2: Jackson's a great athlete. Josh Allen's a great athlete. I mean, 1007 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 2: you'd take Josh Allen. But the takeaway is a lot 1008 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 2: of these young coaches. Andy Reid is different. Andy Reid 1009 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 2: wanted Michael Vick. Andy Reid wanted Mahome. Andy wants playmakers. 1010 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 2: That's why he's the great coach. But a lot of 1011 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 2: these young coaches just want somebody. Bill Walsh had this 1012 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 2: who can simply deliver on my play call. Sean Payton's 1013 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 2: a lot like that. Russell Wilson's going to be a 1014 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 2: challenge for Sean Payton's He's done. He's trying to mold Russell. 1015 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 2: Russell would rather go Deep Breeze, didn't throw Deep Breeze 1016 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 2: was eighteen yards and in so the play design and 1017 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 2: the play golf by Sean Payton was essential. Russell will 1018 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 2: run out of the play call he'll run out of 1019 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 2: the play design. So that's a really interesting situation. Sean Payton, McVeigh, Shanahan. 1020 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 2: They kind of like you to do what they say. 1021 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: And you know, you know this, whatever gift God gives 1022 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: you a great singing voice, you're gonna use it in 1023 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 2: the shower, in your car, in a chorus. If God 1024 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 2: gives you a great arm, Josh Allen, you're gonna use 1025 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: it far big interceptions, name it the Big Interceptions Bradshaw 1026 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: and so I kind of think McVeigh. I think Stafford 1027 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 2: mostly does what Sean wants, but he drives Sean crazy 1028 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 2: with the picks ad libbing. He wasn't as athletic. I 1029 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 2: was told very early they established he wasn't as athlete 1030 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 2: as they thought. It was evident, right, but they were 1031 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 2: okay with that. So their takeaway he was kind of 1032 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 2: a physical runner, not nimble and twitchy. But I was 1033 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: told Kyle was okay with that. I don't need too 1034 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 2: much twitch. By the end of the first camp, they 1035 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 2: were like, man, we got a throwing issue. So what 1036 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 2: happens with Trey is not only isn't he athletic enough, 1037 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 2: but he doesn't give you the distribution excellence, so it 1038 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 2: doesn't work. Now, Darnold is a little more athletic than 1039 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 2: Trey can struggle with distribution. Pretty isn't that athletic great 1040 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 2: at distribution? So you can And they both love Kirk 1041 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: Cousins mcvah and Shanahan. So you can see the model here. 1042 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: A lot of these young coaches, John, you know this, 1043 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: you scouted. Some of these coaches want you to run 1044 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: their play. That's what they want. Well, see, Andy is 1045 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 2: much more it's weird offensive lineman. When you think of him, 1046 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 2: tend to be just like conservative, tough guys. He's really 1047 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 2: more of a free spe let It flow and it 1048 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: comes back. He was taught in the early eighties at 1049 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: the BYU program that was well ahead of its time, 1050 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: throwing the ball all the time. And then his NFL 1051 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: stardom came with Brett farr right, the ultimate freelance gunslinger. 1052 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 2: So a lot of coaches the Shanahan tree was all 1053 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 2: raised in. It's a lot of boot and play actions, 1054 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 2: dumping the ball off to a guy five feet in 1055 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 2: front of you. So I just now, eventually it's the NFL. 1056 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 2: You got to hurt, you have to hit a third 1057 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 2: and ten. But there is a lot of first and 1058 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: ten of a little flick to Debo or to Christian 1059 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 2: McCaffrey that if you put it at his feet, it's 1060 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 2: a disaster because that's an easy thirteen yards. And that's 1061 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 2: where I think Perty came in and immediately did that, 1062 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: and it was almost like they became BFFs immediately, because 1063 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 2: that is what he's really looking for. 1064 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 4: Right. 1065 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks in the NFL can throw the ball fifty yards, right, 1066 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: that's not the majority of the game is not deep bombs, 1067 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: And that to me is the most fascinating part about 1068 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: all this quarterback Like what makes Mahomes really special? Obviously 1069 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: he's instinctive and the physical attributes. The guy is very 1070 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: very accurate when he has to be, and he's very 1071 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 1: very football smart. So Andy's always said this about even 1072 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: when Tyreek Hill was on the team, is I could 1073 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: tell him to do whatever I need to do when 1074 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: he pick it up like that. You know, we talk 1075 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot about in football all the physical characteristics and 1076 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: then all the schemes, but we don't talk enough about 1077 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: the intelligence because it's like teaching some of these guys 1078 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: that they can never get it and that limits their 1079 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: potential in the sport because the game is so complex 1080 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: and as the seat like the preseason now is a joke, right, 1081 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: but once the season comes in, you're putting in a 1082 01:00:35,640 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: new game plan every single week. The volume