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After 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: you subscribe to Fox Sports Trading and YouTube, click the 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: bell icon on the homepage and try on all notifications 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: so you have easy access to our very best videos. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: So this is a this is a personal thing that 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: I despise and I don't really know what to do 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: about it, so I just let's just talk about it. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: There are always going to be people that insist somehow 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders was done wrong by the world right, and 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: we've I don't need to. We don't need to relitigate 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: the Shador Sanders and where. 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: He was drafted thing. You know, it's super interesting. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, probably the best thing to happen to us 26 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: in the NBA draft sadly happened to uh, Bronnie James, 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: was Bronnie had the heart issue, because otherwise there would 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: have been some people who do rankings that will be like, hey, 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: Bronnie James top ten prospect on I think Jonathan Gavoni's list, 30 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: and he should go because Bronnie James had the heart issue. 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: Forget about the fact that he didn't start when he 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: was at se They didn't have a good year, he 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: didn't have a particularly good year because he had the 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: heart issue. Was like he wasn't gonna have a good 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: year anyway. So you know, second round picks about right, 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: and we all knew when the Lakers were picking, and 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: that's whereabout he would go. And so what there wasn't 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: this So the celebrity dad draftee is definitely a thing, right, 39 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: definitely a thing. So I'm not going to relitigate where 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: Shoulder should have gone. It's just really important to understand 41 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: there are thirty two NFL teams, and we went through 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: two days of drafting and he had not been selected. 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: They had had plenty of time, so it wasn't and 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: there was no collusion. There's just everybody involved was like, 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: she's just not. 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Good enough. 47 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: Considering, you know, the pressure you're going to get to 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: play him, and the talent that he may or may 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: not have, and then the way which she carries himself. 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: So he's at fourth on the depth chart with the Browns. 51 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, Dylan Gabriel, who was drafted around 52 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: ahead of him, I've never been I've never watched Dylan 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: Gabriel play at Central Florida or at Oklahoma and been like, 54 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: you know what, that's an NFL quarterback. But he was 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: drafted ahead of Shador and so he's gonna get kind 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: of right a first refusal. Here's Shador Sanders when he 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: was asked what we should expect from him in his 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: first NFL preseason game. 59 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: Have you watched me at Collins? 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: But you know a little bit of that going on. 61 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 5: I'm still the same guy, you know, I don't nothing 62 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: happened to me. 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I think it's a good quarterback, A 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: definitely good college quarterback. But you know it's it's gonna 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: be interesting. And I saw Robert Griffin third, who now 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: works for us at Fox, talking about how he's been 67 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: done wrong by the Browns and it's gonna make people 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: pay for such little reps. And he's the fourth quarterback. 69 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: What did you expect in. 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Terms of number of reps? Volumes of reps? 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: And we're going to hyper focus on his performance in 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: his first preseason game, and if he has good numbers, 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: we're going to say it's really good, no matter if 74 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: it was the right reads or how average the defense 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: or talent that he's going against was. But there is 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: nothing abnormal about your second quarterback drafted being fourth in 77 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: the depth chart when you have two previous NFL starters 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: and a guy drafted ahead of him, ahead of him 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: on the on the you know, in the pecking order. 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: But my private frustration is over people that cherry picks 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: stats from the internet and make a statement about who 82 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: played well in a practice where you have zero idea 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: what they were trying to accomplish, who they were going against, 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: or what it looked like. Zero What do I think happens? 85 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: I think Flacco starts, Yes, I think at some point 86 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett gets a shot. I think they 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: have to hold on to Dylan Gabriel. I think they 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: might carry they might carry four. Remember they still have 89 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson under contract. He just tores Achilles ten in twice. 90 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: So you know, I don't I don't know if they do, 91 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: they would you drop by Kenny Pickett, who's started in 92 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: the NFL for a couple of years, over a Dylan 93 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Gabriel and a Shador Sanders knowing that next year's Brown's 94 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: quarterback probably isn't on the roster, probably isn't on the roster. Bira, 95 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: how do you think? How do you think this turns out? 96 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: I mean, and by the way the eye once reflects 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: podcast is dance podcast. It's awesome if if you need 98 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: fantasy information to get your draft coming up as well, 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: give me your best guess. We don't know who gets hurt. 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: We don't know how it works. I do think that 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: that Flacco somewhere early to mid season gets pulled. I 102 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: think Kenny Pickett gets a shot. I'm guessing that find 103 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: a way to carry three or four. I just don't 104 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: know if Shuore Sanders is one of those guys. 105 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just to backtrack a little, like we believe 106 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 6: that Kenny Pickett at one point was number one and 107 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco is number two. Then Pickett gets injured and 108 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 6: now the depth chart comes out and Flacco is number 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 6: one on that. I think they really wanted to see 110 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 6: what Kenny Pickett had for whatever reason, and I think 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 6: that's why he was going to get the opportunity up 112 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: until this hamstring issue that he's been dealing with. The 113 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 6: bottom half. Doug is the part where it's changed for me, 114 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 6: because I do think in the last forty eight hours 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: there is a scenario where Shador Sanders doesn't make this team. 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 6: And the only reason I say that is because I 117 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 6: feel that if you are Andrew Berry and you're Kevin Stefanski, 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 6: the way that you can take your control back or 119 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 6: at least some of the power back, and it may 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: fly in the face of what the haslms wanted. Even 121 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 6: if Jimmy Haslam said it was Andrew Berry's decision, it's 122 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 6: still a fifth round pick and they have been cut before. 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 6: The fifth round picks have not made rosters before. So 124 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 6: if you're the Cleveland Browns and you feel that you 125 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 6: have something this season, then maybe Shoudour doesn't make it. 126 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: That's entered into my mind over these last couple of days, 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 6: because I just don't know. I don't know who else 128 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: would want Kenny Pickett. I don't understand the signing of 129 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 6: Flacco and Picket. If you're gonna deal one of them 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 6: like that doesn't make much sense to me. So just 131 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 6: the fact of Shador not getting reps with the the 132 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 6: Ones for a decent amount of training camp or against 133 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 6: the number one defense, that's that kind of brought into 134 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 6: the equation. All right, Well, maybe the Browns don't have 135 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: a future with Shador Sanders. 136 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: I can tell you one thing I know, Jase two 137 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: is so badly once I'm on that team as third 138 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: string quarterback, because. 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: Jason likes storylines and that's a great storyline. 140 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 7: Accurate, Jason, are you trying to represent me as a 141 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 7: person that loves great storylines? 142 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 143 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I love him. 144 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 145 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: And Chador being like the third string quarterback is exactly 146 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: what we need, exactly what he Because then you're gonna 147 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: have a portion of people literally hoping that Joe Flacco's 148 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: terrible and whoever replaced him also terrible, and that chadur 149 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: comes in riding the white Horse and saves the. 150 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: Day with the By the way, just a side note 151 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 6: with the Browns on that storyline, and then we can 152 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: bring it back. Remember they traded down from two to 153 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: five yep, and picked up Jacksonville's first round pick next year. 154 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 6: And again, what could be a great quarterback draft? You 155 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 6: right now don't have your second round pick signed because 156 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 6: of a domestic violence arrest. Has it been the greatest 157 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: of off seasons for the Brons in that regard, Like, 158 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 6: there's gonna be a point where you're gonna start looking 159 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 6: towards the future and Dylan Gabriel's future may not even 160 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 6: be as part of the cards, and you use the 161 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 6: third round pick on him. So they do the deal 162 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 6: with Jacksonville getting a first round or next year. But 163 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 6: you look back at what they've done just in since 164 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 6: this draft, and it's been I know the Judkins thing 165 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: isn't their fault. 166 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: But it's better. 167 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: How's it not their fault? 168 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: Well? 169 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 6: Well, just I mean I don't think that there were 170 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 6: any there was anything behind quinch on Judkins. 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: Uh. I don't know how they would be at fault, and. 172 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Not necessarily at fault. 173 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: I mean, but listen, I can you know, and we 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: don't know, and I don't know what the background looks like, 175 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: but I can tell you that it's you gotta pay 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: a lot of attention to it. It's it's just about 177 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: everything is what kind of person we deal with here, 178 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: so and it you know, it's early on. Hopefully it's nothing. 179 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Hopefully that it's a it's an overreaction. 180 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 181 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it. I don't want any 182 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: any woman to ever be abused by a man ever. 183 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and. 184 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: That happened after they drafted him though. 185 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: No I know, but it's still part of you know, 186 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't Again, I didn't do the background research. 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 188 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: And Deshaun Watson, by the way, if you went to 189 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: his background when he was coming out of college, people 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: thought he was a saint. So they can't fool you. 191 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely can fool you. But you're right, You're right, Dan. 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: I mean, like your second round pick's kind of got 193 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: a DV and your third round pick looks like he's. 194 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 3: A high school quarterback. 195 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah right, And you're like, and yeah, and now you've 196 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: got Shdor Sanders and what if shed door Sanders is decent, 197 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: then you're like, well, we want to We did this 198 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: whole thing so we could take an elite quarterback next year, 199 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: and this happens. 200 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 7: As good as a storyline. It will be if he's 201 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 7: on the roster. I think the great twenty four hour 202 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 7: news cycle when he If he's ever cut by the Browns, Yeah, 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 7: I think that would be the end of mel Kaiper. 204 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: He will be if he gets cut, he will be 205 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: the kN Kaepernick of this season. Somebody's playing poorly. It's like, 206 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: you know they should call they should call Shador Sanders, right, 207 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean like there's Kirk Cousins is available and Shadoor 208 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: Sanders is available, and there will be people that will 209 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: say the two are the same thing. Well, you know, 210 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, he's older, he's got that achilles. I'd rather 211 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: have Shador Sanders. I'm telling you right now, he's the 212 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: next Kaepernick. When by say Kaepernick, I'm not talking about 213 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: polarizing protesting. I'm talking about how that became kind of 214 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: like the go to for people who don't know anything 215 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: about football. And just the last how many years does 216 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: the Kapernick think was it thirteen? Was last year he 217 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: played right. But it's been like the last I don't know, 218 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: six seven years where people have people go like, you know, 219 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: they should call Colin Kaepernick. Now they're going to say, 220 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, they should call Shadore Sanders. I'll tell you what. 221 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: I take a look at you, Dor Standers. Even if 222 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: he couldn't beat out Canny Pickett, Old Joe Flacco and 223 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel, You Jay Stu searches for content and conflict, 224 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: right and the opposite of whatever BS is, right Danielle 225 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: all three. 226 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: I think I did. 227 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 7: Yep, and I think that there's but I do think 228 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 7: that mel Kuiper would cease to exist. And I'm not 229 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 7: talking about our you know, as a NFL draft analyst, 230 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 7: I think he would have a heart attack. He has 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 7: so much in the Shadure Sanders easter basket that he 232 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 7: if he is cut by an NFL team, that means 233 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 7: that he wasn't a top five overall pick in the draft, 234 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 7: which mel Kuiper screamed. He was through the draft, through 235 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 7: the draft, from the very beginning of his draft analysis 236 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 7: through's the third day of the draft. Now Kiper was 237 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 7: telling us that shaduor Sanders is a top five pick. 238 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it, and he's he would have 239 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: to be Tom Brady, which you know, I thought. I 240 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: read an article yesterday which was interesting, which is I 241 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: didn't know how much Tom Brady was involved with the Raiders, 242 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: but he was involved obviously with the Raiders. Where now 243 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: he's on the field at practice at training camp with 244 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: a Raiders shirt on, and he had worked with Shador 245 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: and yet the Raiders took other drafted other quarterbacks. You know, 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: it had plenty of opportunities to draft him, which sounds like, yeah, 247 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: he worked with stories like yeah, no thanks, no thanks. 248 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 2: Even that answer, while there's nothing wrong with the answer, 249 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: you saw me in college, right, Well that's kind of 250 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: a loaded thing, right, Yeah, we saw you in college. 251 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys were thirteen and twelve in college, 252 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: high completion percentage, you had Travis Hunter, but you know 253 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: you held on the ball a little bit too much. 254 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: You saw me in college, right, I'm the same guy. Well, 255 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: this is a little bit higher level of competition. Again, 256 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with the answer. It's not like you can 257 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: sit there and go like this is the wrong answer 258 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: for it, but it's not the right answer. 259 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 260 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 261 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 262 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 5: listen live. 263 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 264 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, I haven't done this in a while, so 265 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't work this way anymore. 266 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Who bought the of us? Who bought their car? 267 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: I do have a newer car, but it's more it 268 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: was I didn't negotiate the old fashioned way. Whatever, Dan 269 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: held your car. 270 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: My car is like six years old, okay, Chase two, 271 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 6: I think six or seven, okay, and. 272 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: Sammy twenty eighteen. 273 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 274 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: So when you guys buy a car, do you pre 275 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: negotiate the price? Do you sit down there like, well, 276 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: I got to run this back to my sales officer 277 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: and we'll get back to you. 278 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: We'll see what your rate is. Do you gotta right? 279 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Build this credit app and whatever? Right? And the most 280 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: powerful thing you can do in buying a car is 281 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: walk out the door. Right. 282 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, I'm gonna go think about it. I'm 283 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: gonna go down the street. There's no other dealership. It's 284 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: got the exact same car, and we'll see if they'll 285 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: give me a better deal on it. Now, some of 286 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: this has changed because the Internet and you know, you 287 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: can kind of search and seek and find the price, 288 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: and a lot of dealerships do this no haggle pricing 289 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: thing or whatever, but they do, you know, tax stuff on. 290 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting that Micah Parsons is like 291 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: niating for a car and they're at an impasse, and 292 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: yet he's still showing up there. Well, his is there's 293 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: no altruism in he just doesn't want to get fined 294 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars and good for the cowboys. You're like, look, dude, 295 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: if you are not there, we're going to find you. 296 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: Because part of this new collective Barty agreement, you're not 297 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: supposed to You're not supposed to not find them. Like 298 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: it's a non If you don't show up a practice, 299 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: you get fine, period. 300 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: Stop. The number is set. This is how it works. 301 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: So it's not like Marco Parson is hoping for a 302 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: better deal, but he kind of is hoping for a 303 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: better deal while staying at the dealership. I'm just gonna 304 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: sit in here in this waiting area by the service center, 305 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: and I'm going to drink your below average coffee and 306 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: you bring out some some cookies and somebody, you know, 307 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: somebody's somebody who works in service. They made some brownies. 308 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna read these magazines and I'll watch the 309 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: local news. I'm gonna wait until you come out and say, hey, 310 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: you know what, mister Parsons, We've come up with a 311 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: new price. 312 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: That's what it feels like to me. That's what it feels 313 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: like to me. 314 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: He's still at Cowboys camp, even though he wants to 315 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: be traded. It wasn't I'm gonna set out and not 316 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: play until you give me a new contract. 317 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: It was I want out. I'm done. 318 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be a cowboy. Now I'm not, 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: And yet you're still at Cowboys camp. That's not the 320 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: strongest way to negotiate. 321 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 7: It. 322 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: Just it it feels odd, It feels off, and it 323 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: doesn't feel real. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on 324 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the new author of a book, 325 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: and of course he's written other books, but it's called 326 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 2: football done Right. 327 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: It's Michael Lombardi. 328 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox 329 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. And you've basically done everything at the professional 330 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: level of football, right from being a general manager to 331 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: being kind of the consingly area you name it, and 332 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: then of course covering the game periodically throughout the last 333 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: fifteen or so years, as well as getting back into 334 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: business now moving to the college side. But it's kind 335 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 2: of the professionalization of the college side. What's it like 336 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: for you. 337 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: It's been fun, Doug, It's been great. I think you've 338 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 8: nailed that. It is a professional sport. I mean, look 339 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 8: what players are getting paid, which they deserve to get 340 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 8: paid because of the revenue that they've generated for the 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 8: universities across the board, and now to help other sports, 342 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 8: help and help other sports and also help the institution. 343 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 8: But it's been fun, I mean, other than attending an 344 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 8: academic meaning my job is pretty much the same as 345 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 8: it was working at all the NFL teams. It's salary 346 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 8: cap it's team buildings, understanding how to utilize your money 347 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 8: that you have available to you and in the best 348 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 8: way possible. 349 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: Think So what's interesting is obviously your level. You guys 350 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: are able to break it apart where Coach Belichick does 351 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: football and. 352 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: You do your the you're the GM, right, so. 353 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: There's there's a separate a little a slight separation of 354 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: church and state. My level, I kind of do everything. 355 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: We We hired a hire, we have a GM whos 356 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: a former player who's going to help us. But it's 357 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: not to the level that that you're doing. So I 358 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: guess here's the first question that all guys ask them, 359 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: we all ask each other. 360 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: Is are you are you tearing it or are. 361 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: You going after certain guys and being like, what what 362 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: is your what's the general plan for how you guys 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: do what you do within the scope of your salary structure? 364 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 8: Well, I mean everything about the job that I have 365 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 8: is the same as the job in professional football. You 366 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 8: have to grade the players accurately to then determine how 367 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 8: much you tell them. You know, the NFL draft is 368 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 8: all about how much money. It's all money the NFL draft. 369 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 8: If you get picked the first pick in the second round, 370 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 8: you make X. If you get picked the last pick 371 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 8: in the seventh round, you make why. And that why 372 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 8: and that X has to be equated to a description. 373 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 8: This player will come in and start immediately, He'll make 374 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 8: a huge impact on the team, and he'll be all 375 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 8: conference or whatever. Whatever the description is that translates into 376 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: how much you should pay the player. Where you get 377 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 8: in trouble is when you have a guy you grade 378 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 8: as a backup player and you pay him like a starter. 379 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 8: That's when you get in trouble. So the first thing 380 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 8: you have to do is put together a grading system 381 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 8: that allows you to accurately grade the players. 382 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: Do you use analytic companies or do you use your 383 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: own grading system in your own film breakdown? 384 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 8: No, we use our own system. I mean, football is 385 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 8: different than baseball. We're not as analytical as we have 386 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 8: some elements of analytics, but I mean, look, you know, 387 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 8: if analytics breaks down a game, do they tell you 388 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 8: who's on the field, right? I mean it's easy to say, 389 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 8: you know, get into eleven personnel and throw the ball 390 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 8: the best. But if Reggie White's the right end and 391 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 8: the left end and you're the right tackle, can't block anybody, 392 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 8: do you really want to throw the ball? I mean 393 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 8: that's the fundamental question, right. It's all about how the 394 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 8: players intertwine with the plays do. I think it's important 395 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 8: to have some form of analytics, of course, But to 396 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 8: sit there and think that you can carry the load 397 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 8: with analytics, it's a little bit naive in the sense 398 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 8: that you just do. You have to know who's on 399 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 8: the field. You have to judge the players, right. You 400 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 8: want to go after Rod Woodson, who I wrote about him, 401 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 8: Football done right? Good? Go after them? Everybody did? They 402 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 8: double moved them early in the game because after that 403 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 8: you weren't going to get another play on them. So 404 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 8: it's about how to incorporate plays and players. 405 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: In the new book Football done right? Did you when 406 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: you started it? 407 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: Because I mean, look, anybody's written a book or thought 408 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: about writing a book knows it takes a while. When 409 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: you started, though, your your job and your job description 410 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: was completely different, right. Was there any thought of college 411 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: football when you started putting pen of paper? 412 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 8: Oh no, no, not at all. I didn't think I 413 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 8: would get back into the team side of it, you know, 414 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 8: having worked in the NFL, and when you get older. 415 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: In the NFL, he required to make too much money 416 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 8: and nobody wants to pay. So, you know, I felt 417 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 8: like I had a good job working on the media side, 418 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 8: and I was enjoying that. And I love writing books. 419 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 8: I mean, my first book, Wridied Genus, has sold really well. 420 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 8: This book here gave me a lot of pleasure to write. 421 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 8: In fact, I felt really on this past weekend, I 422 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 8: felt vindicated because one of the major themes of the 423 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 8: book was why Sterling Sharp wasn't in the NFL. It's 424 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 8: the reason I really one of the reasons why I 425 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 8: started to write the book was the injustice given a Sharp. 426 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 8: And look what happened. He got in the NFL. Not 427 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 8: because of my book, but people became aware of the injustice. 428 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 8: You know, he said he didn't play long enough. Well 429 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 8: even to Terrell Davis either to tell you WASSELLI but 430 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 8: so one of the rules, you know, what is long enough? 431 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 8: And I think that's why I wrote it and I 432 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 8: enjoyed it. 433 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: What about coach Belichick? 434 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: You know, he. 435 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: Again, at least what we were told was man, he 436 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: really valued intelligence right in the players that you guys drafted. 437 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: You go back to your days with the Patriots. How 438 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: has he adjusted to even smart college troll players hail 439 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: in comparison to the level of football intelligence he's used 440 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: to dealing with. What's this process been like in terms 441 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: of trying to evaluate and trying to coach players of 442 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: different levels of football intelligence. 443 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 8: Well, you know, every football team, whether you're in high school, 444 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 8: whether you're in college or pro, you become who you 445 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 8: want to be. And everybody here knows we're looking for smart, 446 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 8: tough and dependable players. And when you walk in the building, 447 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 8: that's the first thing everybody gets hit with. We want smart, 448 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 8: tough and dependable and if you're not smart, tough and dependable, 449 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 8: you won't be on our team. So that's what he wants, 450 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 8: and that's the kind of player that we're trying to 451 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 8: build within the framework of the team. You know, football 452 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 8: teams become who they want to be. If you want 453 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 8: a fat team, you'll sign fat players. If you want 454 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 8: a skinny you'll sign skinny players. Right, Well, we want smart, 455 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 8: tough and dependable, which if we if they're smart, tough 456 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 8: and dependent and they're self aware, we'll make them better players, 457 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 8: will allow them to grow and develop. 458 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: In football. 459 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: Then right, you talked about Stirling Sharp, who got in 460 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Okay, so does that 461 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: does Terrell Davis Sterling Sharp, Tony BISSELLI does that open 462 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: the door for even a priest Holmes? Right, very short career, 463 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: but very dominant in that short period time. 464 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think he deserves I think part 465 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 8: of what I wanted to do and why if you 466 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 8: go to the back of the book. You know I wrote, 467 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 8: I wrote why I wrote the book. And you know, 468 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 8: if you ever watch Larry David Curb your Enthusiasm, he 469 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 8: had an episode called the Middler where whoever sits at 470 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 8: the middle of a table at a dinner party is 471 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: responsible to stir up conversation. I think that's a really 472 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 8: good conversation to have. You know, what is the criteria? 473 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 8: I think every position should have a criteria. I put 474 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 8: a criteria in there for coaches so we could stop 475 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 8: the debate is this guy a good player? See, it's 476 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 8: just no different than a grading system in football. If 477 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 8: you don't have a system, everybody just argues back and 478 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 8: forth whether the guy's good enough. When you have a 479 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 8: system that describes what the player with the qualifications that 480 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 8: must be meant to get into the club, there's no 481 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 8: more debate, you know. For example, Marty Schottenhammer has won 482 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 8: two hundred games in his EDITL coaching career. Two hundred. 483 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 8: There's only nine people that have poached out of the 484 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 8: five hundred plus people that have called themselves head coach 485 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 8: that have achieved that level of success, one out of 486 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 8: five hundred and nine out of five hundred and seventy five. 487 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 8: And he's not in the Hall of Fame. If you're 488 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 8: in that exclusive club, don't you think you belong in 489 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. Yes, there shouldn't be a debate. 490 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 8: It should be automatically just admitted. Didn't come to a vote. 491 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 8: But he well he has not won a super Bowl, Okay, 492 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 8: Marv Lee, he didn't win a super Bowl. Well, he 493 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 8: didn't get to a super Bowl. Well, George Allen went 494 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 8: to one super Bowl. You know, the only coach ten years. 495 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: He had a seventy percent winning percentage. He lost at 496 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 8: fourteen to seven to the Miami Dolphins in the undefeated season. 497 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 8: But he's in the Hall of Fame. I mean, so, like, 498 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 8: what is if there's no criteria, all that happens is 499 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 8: it becomes an argument. 500 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: Yep, pretty much right. It's it's like the Constitution. 501 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: We picked the ones that we picked, the things we like, 502 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: don't we try to diminish the things we don't. 503 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: We do the same with the Bible, and we do. 504 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: The same thing with arbitrary sports arguments, where we'll leave 505 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: things out because it doesn't support an argument. 506 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 8: Right, and if somebody has as well as one favor 507 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 8: with the media, and they the media like them. They'll 508 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 8: push the player to get into the Hall of Fame. 509 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 8: You know, they'll want the guy. I mean that was 510 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 8: the point. You know, certain guys got pushed and did 511 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 8: they deserve to go in the Hall of Fame. Maybe 512 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 8: they did, maybe they didn't, But there should be an order, 513 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 8: you know, Mike Holmgren's want you know, he belongs Mike Shanahan. 514 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 8: We would have what would have the zone outside run 515 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 8: play one of one of the major injustices, Clark Shaughnessy. 516 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 8: We wouldn't have a forward pass if it wasn't for 517 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 8: Clark Shaughnessy. But yet we can't. Clark Shaughnessy's not in 518 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame. 519 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: How does Aaron Rodgers do in Pittsburg? 520 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know enough about about how he looks, 521 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 8: and I haven't paid any attention to the NFL to 522 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 8: really say, but I think Arthur Smiths are a really 523 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 8: good coach. I think Mike Comlin's a really good coach. 524 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 8: And I think if he follows the program, you know, 525 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 8: the program, one player is not going to win for you. 526 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 8: It's going to be the program. And I think if 527 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 8: he follows the program, that will really help. 528 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Last thing, I know you got to in the NFL. 529 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: I've been told the hit rate for free and C 530 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 2: is like thirty three percent. Right, what do you think 531 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: a reasonable hit rate in year one for you would 532 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: be at North Carolina? I mean for recruiting, Yeah, in 533 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: terms of evaluate guys achieving what you thought they would 534 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: achieve when. 535 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 8: You're well, I mean we have seventy new players on 536 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 8: the team. So it's hard. It's a completely new team. 537 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 8: I think to me, it's about one day at a time. 538 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 8: We've got to build it. We're building a culture. I mean, 539 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 8: that's the most important thing. When you walk in this building, 540 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 8: you'll feel a culture, you know, and that's what more 541 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 8: is the most important element of what we're doing. Once 542 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 8: you build a culture, then all of a sudden you 543 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 8: develop multipliers, you know, multiple you know what multipliers are players, 544 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 8: And so that's that's what we're doing. And so that 545 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 8: takes time, but it's also worthwhile. 546 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: It is worthwhile, So is picking up this book. It's 547 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: called Football Done Right. You can pick up his other 548 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: book as well. It's outhered by Michael Lombardi. Course works 549 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: for North Carolina football. He's kind of to spend some 550 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: time this picked up football done right, Mike, thanks so 551 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: much for joining us. 552 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: I know you're busy. Really appreciate your time. 553 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 8: I appreciate you, but I. 554 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: Appreciate you Mike. 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Let's get 579 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: to the press with Dan Byer. 580 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: The Press, Danny b. 581 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: What do you got, Bud, Doug, We've got news in 582 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: from Cleveland. Mary kay Cabot, friend of the program, the 583 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: first to report that Shadeur Sanders will start a quarterback 584 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 6: for the Browns in their preseason opener Friday against the 585 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers. 586 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Okadable, keep an eye on that. That's interesting, right, listed 587 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: as four. But wouldn't that be a Dylan Gabriel normally. 588 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 6: Well, he's hurt, can he Pickett's hurt? Joe Flacco's a 589 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 6: veteran and they just signed Tyler Huntley. I think to 590 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: take snaps in that game. But what an opportunity for 591 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 6: the narrative to go in a variety of directions, right, yep? 592 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: He plays well. Everybody's need it for pass on. He 593 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: plays poorly and he stinks, so. 594 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 4: It makes it. Yes. 595 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 6: In another quarterback situation in the NFL, Colt said coach 596 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 6: Shane Steikens says Anthony Richardson will start against Baltimore on Thursday. 597 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: He'll play into the second quarter. Daniel Jones will then follow. 598 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: They so badly want him to be better than he 599 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: actually is, but he's just not that good. 600 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 6: They're trying everything, yes, giving him all the opportunities, and 601 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 6: even when they are saying it's an open competition, he's 602 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 6: still getting the first crack at it. I suppose if 603 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 6: you put Daniel Jones, it would show that Jones had 604 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 6: passed him if Richardson was to get snaps. But that's 605 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 6: how the Colts are going to do things in Week one. 606 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 6: I guess I could understand it. Looking from Shane Steiken's 607 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 6: point of view, Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow and other starters 608 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 6: will play this weekend against the Eagles. In fact, Zach 609 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 6: Taylor told up in Adams the starters are actually likely 610 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 6: to play more on their second preseason game against the Commanders. 611 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be weird if we see like a 612 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: one to eighty from the league that had gone on. 613 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: The Sean McVay was the first like not playing them, Nope, 614 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: And then everybody's like, you know what works for Sean McVay, 615 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. And then the first four weeks 616 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: of the regular season are awful, and even Jason Stewart's like, 617 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: this is the zarupa tour. We keep more and more 618 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: people keep watching, and yet the product is terrible, Like, hey, 619 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: what if we actually played practice football before we played 620 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: a real football game. It would Again, we're we are 621 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: doing the small sample size, but we'll see if the 622 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: trend is a one to eighty from what the league 623 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: it's been doing. 624 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: Also, the league with the three preseason games usually in 625 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 6: the previous format of four, the third preseason game was 626 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: the final dress rehearsal. Sure, now the third because it's 627 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: the last, is the one where nobody plays. So if 628 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 6: you do play, it's either week one or two. And 629 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 6: it's interesting that it's right out of the gate that 630 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: these starters are seeing action. So and then the Bengals case, 631 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: I don't know if we'll see the starters in week three, 632 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 6: but to play even more than they did in Week 633 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 6: one is a. 634 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: Bit of a surprise. 635 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: Big surprise. Yeah. 636 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 6: Raiders head coach Pete Carroll says his starters will play 637 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 6: in their preseason debut against the Seahawks on Thursday. Cardinals 638 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 6: head coach Jonathan Gannon says their starters will play against 639 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 6: the Chiefs coming up on Saturday. Vikings wide receiver Jordan 640 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 6: Addison suspended three games DOUG following his DUY arrest in 641 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. He violated the NFL's substance abuse policy 642 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 6: and now we'll miss games against the Bears, Falcons and Bengals. 643 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 3: This is just from the DUI. 644 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: There's no additional correct Okay, good, good, strong policy. 645 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna affect JJ McCarthy at all, not 646 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: having his top targets, of course. 647 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: But again, like this is like like I just I 648 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: don't have any It's not just because I got hit 649 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: by a drunk driver. I also have Uber Lift and 650 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: everyone I know's phone number on my phone. I just 651 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: don't really think in twenty twenty five there's the excuse 652 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: for driving drunk. 653 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: I agree with that. 654 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 6: Former NFL running back Lashawn Johnson convicted on animal cruelty 655 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 6: charges in Oklahoma stemming from his role and breeding champion 656 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 6: dogs who were then used to fight in dog fighting rings. 657 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 6: Fifty four year old Johnson faces five years in prison 658 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 6: following the conviction on the six charges. Seventeen others were dropped. 659 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 6: Johnson was given a five year deferred sentence in two 660 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 6: thousand and four on animal fighting charges. 661 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: Again. 662 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: Idea, let's just cover up with gravy. Okay, and throw 663 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: them in a pin with all those dogs. There's there's 664 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: my there's my pitch, there's my penalty. 665 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 5: It's interesting. 666 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: Look, anybody, this guy's an idiot. It's not his first 667 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: uh what was it four? He was arrested for a 668 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: dog fighting ring. Yeah, so second time. I'm not a 669 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: pitbull guy. But this also is part of what leads 670 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: to the terrible rep earned reputation of pit bulls. And yeah, 671 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: just done. 672 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 4: It time gravy so is part the feds. 673 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: What do you think of the penalty? Like that is 674 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: that cruel? 675 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: Unusual? Like put a port chop in his pocket? And hey, 676 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: you want to breed all these dogs? 677 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: Cool? 678 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 4: Hey fine, I think that they are. 679 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 6: I think that there are there are there are listeners 680 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 6: who will wholeheartedly agree with you in that scenario. Yeah, 681 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 6: the uh Johnson allegedly this is part of the uh 682 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 6: the article that came out he was breeding dogs and 683 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 6: then sold the rights their stud rights to dog fighters. 684 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 6: So it was a bit of a The Feds basically 685 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 6: said like they had to do a lot of work 686 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 6: to make sure that that they could get him on 687 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 6: these charges. 688 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he tried. He tried to be clever about it. 689 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we talked about this about scalping tickets 690 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 2: right where it's not allowed. So what you do is 691 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 2: you go, hey, i'll pay the tickets are at face value, 692 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: but this pen is ten thousand dollars. Right, There's like 693 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: there's several ways to do it. But we all know 694 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: you're breeding fighting pit bulls. Hey that if they get loose, 695 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: they hurt people, hurt other dogs. They're on this earth 696 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: one and you're cruel with how you raise them. So 697 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: now go to prison or come him up with gravy, 698 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: throw them in one of those pins. 699 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 6: The rams at Running Back. Kyraen Williams came to terms 700 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 6: on a three year extension where thirty three million dollars 701 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 6: he gets twenty three million dollars guaranteed. 702 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about this throughout the show. 703 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: It's like we can talk about running back markets and 704 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: how last year's Sake won Barclay and it changed everything. 705 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: But that fits right in line with everything, right, really 706 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: good running back get to that second or third contract. 707 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: Get that second contract. 708 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: And it's somewhere in the two plus one variety, somewhere 709 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 2: in the you know, twenty seven to thirty five, thirty 710 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 2: six million dollars variety. This one is twenty three guaranteed, 711 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: could top out at thirty five for two years, three years. 712 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 6: Teddy Bridgewater's back in the NFL, signing a deal with 713 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Free aging quarterback played with the 714 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: Lions late last season and then. 715 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: He won a state championship, yes Miami. Then they accused 716 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: him of cheating because he boughtdi It's lunches or food 717 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: or whatever games some extra money in his pocket. And 718 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: then he's like, ah, I need to coach I fo football. 719 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: I'll go back to the NFL. 720 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 4: Power move, power move. It's nice to have those sort 721 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: of options. 722 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: Well, he's also like one of the most like guys 723 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL. You as people are like, dude, I 724 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: love Teddy Bridgewater. 725 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, that's the press, get. 726 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: Out there and pressed. 727 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 5: That was the press. 728 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: Plus this lego was fell off. 729 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: Remember that was like the last snap and the last 730 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: practice for the Vikings in training camp, and he dropped 731 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: back to pass. His knee exploded in his Obviously his 732 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: career is never the same. So that was after losing 733 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: to your Seahawks right the year before at home on 734 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: the uh the miss chip shot vehicle. Yes, Blair Walsh, 735 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: Blair Walsh the outside. This is the Doug Olmy Show Down, 736 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: Go the podcast. 737 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Tridio.