1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Jerry's here for Dave, where we're just 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: hopping along talking about kangaroos and how they hop. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: That's right. I want to thank our old colleague Kristin 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Conger for writing this article from How Stuff Works back in. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: The day and creator of Unlady Like the podcast too. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: As well as Jennifer Horton wrote another article that I used. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Great to hear Jennifer and then take. 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: The San Diego Zoo website and nat Geo all pitched 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: in for this one. 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: I thought this was a particularly well researched short stuff, 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: so I should have known that Jennifer Horton and Kristin 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Conger had something to do with it. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're talking about kangaroos a little bit, mainly 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: going to get to how and why they hop, but 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: we should start out by talking about the fact that 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: rus are marsupials or pouched mammals, because they have a marsupium, 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: which is a little pouch where their little joey develop. 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked to think a lot about this in 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: the Naked Mole Rat episode where essentially like the marsupial 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: fetus does not develop as long inside the body of 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the mom as it does inside the pouch. Essentially, at 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: some point it's what you would call born, but really 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: it's just crawling out of the birth canal outside into 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: the world for a second, and into the pouch. And 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: then the little Joey latches onto a nipple in there, 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: and the nipple grows three times in size, just like 28 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: the grench's heart, and so the little Joey couldn't let 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: go of the nipple even if he or she wanted 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: to until they develop a little further. It's quite ingenious. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Hats off natural selection. That's a great one. 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's maybe the fact of the podcast for me. 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: That's kind of nutty. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry I took that. I didn't realize that 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: it was. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: What do I have to always take the fact of 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the show? 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I like to, you know, I. 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Mean, I know it's in my contract and not yours, 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: but I'm willing to give every now and then. 41 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: That's very generous of you, think you. 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: All right, So Australia is obviously what people you know, 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: what comes to mind when you think of marsupials in general, 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: because koalas and kangaroos. But we have done a great 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: episode on the opossum, which live all over the place, 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: especially North Central and South America. But we're talking about 47 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: kangaroos and wallabies here because they don't have four legs 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: like our opossum friends. They have two big old feet 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: and two little littler arms. 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way to think about it. They 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: don't have four legs. They have two legs and two arms. 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: And it makes sense like if you've ever seen a kangaroo, 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: or you just bring one to mind, if you're capable 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: of using your mind's eye. They're sitting on their feet 55 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: and they're standing or sitting up right, and they're little 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: almost Titanica arms are just kind of hanging out there, 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: not doing much of. 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: Anything, Yeah, except boxing, probably the kangaroo. The first sightings 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: apparently traced back to a Dutch merchant named Francisco Pelsert 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: who got shipwrecked off the coast of Australian sixteen twenty nine, 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: and about one hundred and fifty years later they were 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: pretty well known throughout Europe and by seventeen ninety one 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: they had brought those things over to London. 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: England, here's the fact of the podcast for me, Chuck, Okay, 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: can I take this one too? Or should I tee 66 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: you up? 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: No? Double up? Baby. 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: So the name kangaroo the word, as far as anyone 69 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: is able to say, we don't know for sure. It's 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: apparently an Aboriginal word for I don't know. Isn't that awesome? 71 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: That's pretty funny, it is. Here's the deal, though, is 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: kangaroos are the only large mammals to hop. And that's 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: basically as like they're you know, bunnies will hop a 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: little bit, but the kangaroo moves around primarily by hopping, 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: and I guess you wouldn't consider a bunny a large 77 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: mammal anyway. Here's the deal. If you go back to 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: twenty five million years ago and look at the fossil record, 79 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: they didn't hop because Australia was a rainforest at the time. 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: So those kangaroos were climbing around for a long long time. 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they actually developed what ends up helping them 82 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: hop long before they actually started to hop. We called 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: it the fourth toe. If you look at a kangaroo's foot, 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: you can see how it's how it's hopping, and Chuck, 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: I think I've kind of set us up for an 86 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: ad break and we're gonna come back and finally talk 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: about how kangaroos hop. What do you think? 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: All right, let's do it shop shop stop. 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Okay, where I left off, Chuck, I was talking about 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: the fourth toe, and this is the this is the 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: design element that allows the kangaroo to hop. Because if 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: you look at a kangaroo's foot, the first toe, looking 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: at the kangaroos foot from the inside of the foot outward, 94 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the first toes pretty puny, might not even be there. 95 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: The second and third toes they're okay, they're like smallish 96 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and they each have a nail, but they seem to 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: be fused together to like web toes. Almost Then when 98 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you get oh, yeah, I didn't know she had web toes. 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Is she a fast swimmer? 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: That's what everyone always asked. It's just the second third 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: toe on one foot or had always been stuck together. 102 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: But surely it would have to give you an advantage 103 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: to some degree. I don't know. 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time I swam with her. 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, next time you get a chance to race her 106 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: and let me know how it turns. Out all right. 107 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: Finally we get to the fourth toe, and the fourth 108 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: toe is like this, this massive beast of a toe, 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: and it's in line with the the leg bones of 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: the kangaroo's legs, and this is where the actual hopping begins. 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an actual adaptation, and like you said, that 112 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: preceded their ability to hop. So I'm not even sure 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: what the deal is with why they adapted that to 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: begin with. But I mean, maybe it's just because they 115 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: went from rainforest to sort of dry, grassy planes and 116 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: they needed to get around more, and they don't know 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: learned it eventually. They do have a fit though, we 118 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: should mention that provides a little bit of support. But 119 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: if you look up like the foot of the hind leg, 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: like you know, from behind, they have these really I 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: mean you can't see because it's on the inside, but 122 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: they have these really strong elastic tendons that store energy 123 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: up for those massive, massive jumps. 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a spring. When they go downward, all of 125 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: that tendon gets a bunch of energy, kinetic energy stored 126 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: in it, and then when they bounce upward, it gets 127 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: it's released, and it can send them flying. Chuck. I 128 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: had no idea how far they can hop and how 129 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: fast did you? 130 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's always fun to relearn that, you know, 131 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: because it's pretty astounding. 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 1: Okay, so they can go up to fifteen to twenty 133 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: miles per hour. Yeah, and for those of you in 134 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Australia who don't know, that's about twenty four to thirty 135 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: two kilometers per hour. That's fast. That's like golf cart 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: speeds at top speeds. 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: Even that's faster than a golf cart. 138 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it can propel itself about twenty five 139 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: feet forward, almost seven or more than seven and a 140 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: half meters and six feet high. Yeah, nearly two meters high. 141 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: So we could jump right over either of us chuck. 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. I mean you're taller than I am, so 143 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: you might get your forehead grazed. 144 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: It could just barely clear me. I'm five foot eleven 145 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and a half if I'm fully honest. 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they would look at me and just be like, 147 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: no problem, shorty. 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: They just free willy right over you. 149 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: I used to be five to ten, now I'm more 150 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: like five to nine. I'm shrinking, as we all argue, yeah, 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: what is up with that? You shrink? 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: You know are? But I mean does that mean our 153 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: vertebra are fusing together, or like our knees are getting shorter. 154 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Have we compacted the shin bones and our legs and 155 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: that's what's doing it? That doesn't make any sense. 156 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: To well, we should do an episode like a shorty 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: maybe on the shrinking as you age, because that's it's 158 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: definitely a thing. That's why, like you see an old 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: man that has these giant ears, they didn't always look 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: that way. 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, wow, what a development. 162 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: All right, So back to the kangaroo, we need to 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: talk about their tails a little bit because they have 164 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: those huge tails that act as a counterbalance to the 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: hind feet. So if you look at a kangaroo hop, 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: that tail moves down like in mid air, that tail 167 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: is moving down to meet kind of where the feet are, 168 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: and when they land, the tail raises, so it kind 169 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: of just does this little opposite motion to balance everything out. 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: And it makes a really satisfying, boring sound. 171 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: Of course. 172 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: So what's great about this? You said that the kangaroo 173 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: is the only land animal that or an only large 174 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: mammal that hops, and the reason why it hops is 175 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: because it's actually a tremendous adaptation for moving quickly across 176 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: land in a really efficient manner because the way that 177 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: the kangaroo is built, the bast they hop, the less 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: energy they have to expend. It's a pretty beautiful system. 179 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy and one of the most efficient 180 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: travelers in the animal kingdom overall. You know that, Like 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: you said, they had that great range. And part of 182 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: what's going on with their efficiency is is they have 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: a like when they're bending down to jump and then 184 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: leaping up, that's contracting and suppressing their respiratory system, which 185 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: actually is like makes it more efficient. It makes those 186 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: stomach muscles contract and expand and just forces air in 187 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: and out without like having to do so, you know, 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: by using your own energy. 189 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they also have to use less muscle energy 190 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: in their legs because when they jump really far high 191 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: and fast, when they land, those super elastic tendons that 192 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: help them hop just contract even further, and that means 193 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: that they expand or spraying i think is the technical term, 194 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: even further. So when they get going, they really can 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: just they can just keep going a while. They're also 196 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: their heart is really attuned to this kind of endurance 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: workout right. Yeah, it's when they're not going fast. When 198 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: they're just kind of hopping from place to place in grazing, 199 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: that's when it's harder and they have to end up 200 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: using their tail to kind of balance themselves as basically 201 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: like a well a third foot. 202 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, why does it say fifth in here? 203 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: That's so weird? I know, because they specifically said that 204 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: their two front arms. 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: You know, hey, well maybe i'll get in touch with 206 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: the color. It gives me a good reason get in 207 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: touch with her. Say what the hell did you mean 208 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: this fifth leg thing all those years ago? 209 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: You're going to ruin her week? 210 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: She's like, who is this? 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Right? 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: I guess we'll close quickly, just on a little you know, 213 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: I mentioned the wallaby the slight differences between the wallaby 214 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: and the rue. Mainly it's the kangaroo is just a 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: lot bigger. They have a lot more link between their 216 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: ankles and their knees, and they're just taller. They can 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: be like eight feet tall, whereas a wallaby is maybe 218 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: like three feet a little over. 219 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Can you really say it any other way than that? 220 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 221 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, why would you anyway? Yeah, this is probably 222 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: long after your wheelhouse, But did you ever watch Rocco's 223 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Modern Life. 224 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 2: Never heard of it. 225 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: It's a great cartoon. Yeah, it's a cute little cartoon. 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: It was on Nickelodeon and Rocco was a wallaby. 227 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh nice. 228 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever watch Dark Winged Duck? 229 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: Never heard of it? 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: No, that's not it. What was the Duck with Jason 231 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Alexander as the duck? 232 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think. I don't think I know of 233 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: such a show. 234 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: It was like a raunchy com like superhero duck show that. 235 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Whatever the name of it was. Look 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: it up. Jason Alexander, George f and Seinfeld played the 237 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: main duck. 238 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and that was a good one too. 239 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Dark Wing Duck is like a Duck 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: Tails spin off. That's not what I'm talking about. 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean if we're recommending animated shows, 242 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: I might as well. And we're in Australia, I gotta 243 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: recommend Bluie again. Still watch that? 244 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Okay? I never watched that one. Yeah, So, stepping out 245 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: of the animated shows, but continuing with the recommendation, I 246 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: watched the Jake Gillenhall movie Enemy last night. Oh yeah, 247 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: it was Denis. Have you seen it? 248 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw back back then. 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Man, it is a good movie. 250 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy ending, yes, but. 251 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: So like it was one of those movies that I 252 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: was like just sitting there thinking about it afterward, and 253 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: so I love those If you go look them up online, 254 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: there are people who have given great thought to explaining 255 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: these things, and I found, I think, on slash Film 256 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: a really great explanation of what was going on. But 257 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: before warned if you watch Enemy, you may regret reading 258 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: the explanation of it. It's almost to me it was 259 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: better before I knew, and I just had to accept 260 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: it on its own terms. 261 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, love that movie. 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: All right, Well that's it for Enemy, and that's it 263 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: for obviously kangaroo hopping. Right, that's right. 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