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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast, Eric Allen and Leja

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Speaker 1: Douzable here in studio. Dudes, it has been a while.

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Speaker 1: I'm so pumped that you are part of our content

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Speaker 1: team throughout the regular season. Not only is Dudes gonna

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Speaker 1: going to be on Jets Game Day with Robert Sala,

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Speaker 1: that premier's Sunday eleven thirty here locally on CBS felt right.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been here since I think two thousand fifteen

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Speaker 1: or maybe sixteen was my last year, because I think

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Speaker 1: we played a game in January and twenty season, so

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Speaker 1: I mean, it feels good to be back on one

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Speaker 1: Jets Drive in the studio with you. It's it's been

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Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I'm pumped for all throughout the regular season.

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Speaker 1: a team preview podcast weekly. But let's start off here,

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Speaker 1: Leja by talking about all the roster moves. Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: had to make to get to this point. Any surprises

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Speaker 1: there worked a lot of surprises. He I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest surprise for everybody was the release of Blessed Austin,

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Speaker 1: a guy that was still a young guy only in

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Speaker 1: this third year, was kind of like the veteran of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Most of the guys that are on

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Speaker 1: the roster are either rookies or your two players, so

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Speaker 1: I think that was a big surprise. And then Jeff Smith,

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Speaker 1: I love it the underdog story making a team like

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I said that we

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Speaker 1: were deep at the receiver. The Jets were deep at receiver.

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy that you know throughout training

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Speaker 1: camp was sometimes with the one, sometimes with the two,

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Speaker 1: sometimes with the threes, but every opportunity he got, he showed.

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Speaker 1: And a guy like Vincent Smith, who they brought back

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Speaker 1: on practice squad, I thought he had a chance to

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Speaker 1: make the team, but I was glad that they were

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Speaker 1: able to get both of them back on the on

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Speaker 1: the roster. What did you think about the trades? The

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Speaker 1: Jets had a clear need at the front of and

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Speaker 1: after Carl Lawson unfortunately went down and Joe Douglas, I

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Speaker 1: thought made a great value play obtaining your former teammates

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Speaker 1: Shack Lawson from Houston. Yeah. Yeah, it just makes total sense, right.

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Speaker 1: You talk about the value for the player that you're getting. Now,

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Speaker 1: Shack Lawson is not gonna kill you with Gotti's SAG numbers.

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Speaker 1: But this guy has a lot of energy, plays with

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Speaker 1: a lot of heart. He can dominate in the run game,

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Speaker 1: career high with six with the Buffalo Bills before he

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Speaker 1: signed in Miami last year. If he can stay in

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Speaker 1: that range and to prove well for the Jets going

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. Speaking of Shack Lawson, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: him on the podcast here. In just a few moments,

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Speaker 1: we were able to catch up with him here this

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Speaker 1: week is the Jets prepared for the regular season Week

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Speaker 1: one opener against the Carolina Panthers. It is here already.

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Speaker 1: How about the value on that trade, Chris Herndon going

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Speaker 1: so Joe Douglass ships Herndon and a six gets a

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Speaker 1: four back. Think about this, the Jets have two first

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Speaker 1: round picks next April to second round picks next April.

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Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about, right the compensation for Herndon,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think his value would have been any

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Speaker 1: To me, Minnesota was in a dire straits right er Smith.

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Speaker 1: Their tight end had getting gotten hurt and he needed

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick is major compensation for a guy Chris

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Speaker 1: Herndon has a lot of ability but has struggled with consistency.

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Speaker 1: How about the guys down the roster you made NFL

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Speaker 1: look at that Jets roster you mentioned the youth, so

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Speaker 1: you've got ten person draft class twelve rookies at all,

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Speaker 1: How about this, Where are the strengths on this roster

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Speaker 1: But the great thing is with this defense, and Robert

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Speaker 1: he's sacked number guy, but He's a guy that can

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Speaker 1: use his long arm, come off inside and when the

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Speaker 1: one on Robert Sala We're seeing up from afar. But

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Speaker 1: you were in the meeting rooms in San Francisco. You

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Speaker 1: Wilson in the beginning of the season. Well by the

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Speaker 1: him the ball. Yes, we know he has the report

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Speaker 1: with Elijah More because they're both rookie mates. They came

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Speaker 1: in together. But what he did with Corey Davis in

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Speaker 1: that Green Bay game feeding him the ball, the report

436
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Speaker 1: is there. And from everything I've been hearing from practice,

437
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Speaker 1: that report is getting stronger and stronger. And Corey Davis

438
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Speaker 1: is a big, physical receiver, right, He's gonna kill you

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Speaker 1: in those intermediate routes. But he's not a small guy.

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Speaker 1: Like if you saw during the Preces game, one guy

441
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Speaker 1: wasn't bringing this guy down. So when you have him

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Speaker 1: and you throw those intermediate routes like the digs, the

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Speaker 1: quick out routes, he could take some of those routes

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Speaker 1: and it could be like a six or seven eight

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Speaker 1: yard kis, but he could turn it into fifteen. I

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Speaker 1: completely agree with that. He averaged over fifteen yard to

447
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Speaker 1: catch last season for Tynessee. He's also gonna help on

448
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Speaker 1: the outside in terms of being that big body guy

449
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Speaker 1: who can get after you in the run game right

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Speaker 1: on the perimeter. And and that's so important that you

451
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Speaker 1: brought that up because the receivers blocking in this run

452
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Speaker 1: game is monumental. If you look at what they did

453
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Speaker 1: Deebo Sanders is a bigger receiver type guy. Brandon and

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Speaker 1: I got bigger receiver time. These guys blocked down the field,

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Speaker 1: and I like a guy like you know we have.

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Speaker 1: Mims is a big body guy that can block. Corey

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Speaker 1: Davis is gonna block even the lots more. He might

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Speaker 1: be smaller in statue, but he will get after you.

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Speaker 1: And we saw some of that in the Giants game.

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Speaker 1: These guys are willing blockers. Keeling cole is a William blocker.

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Speaker 1: That's what's gonna pop some of those big runs for

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Speaker 1: for Toy Johnson and Michael Carter or even even pe

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Speaker 1: you know, the veteran back there. He's played in the

466
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467
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Speaker 1: he knows exactly what to do in this system. So

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469
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Speaker 1: What does the motion offensively do? I know, I know

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Speaker 1: more than that. What do the motions do? So the

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Speaker 1: going to the jet sweep. Next thing you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the zone to the left. Right, it's buying your eyes,

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Speaker 1: um favorite Opening Day memory for you have one? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, and I love that you brought this. So

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Speaker 1: it actually was the year I got here in two

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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, and you'll remember this with the Jets, We're

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Speaker 1: playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and this game went down

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Speaker 1: game playing against the Jets after he had just been

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Speaker 1: traded there. So it looked it looked bleak for us

511
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game, but we're able to

512
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Speaker 1: then folk Hero coming on. I actually happened to be

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Speaker 1: on that field goal team protecting coming on and drilling

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Speaker 1: the game winner. Until this day, still have never seen

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Speaker 1: because that really showed the adversity like our team, you know,

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Speaker 1: thought that we were out of that game. And for

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Speaker 1: I remember when he made that kick, I literally ran

525
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Speaker 1: a hundred I would say a hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 1: around and circle. Just so excited, man, Because a lot

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528
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Speaker 1: I told my peck, so a lot of people thought

529
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Speaker 1: I was done and I was able to come back.

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Speaker 1: Rex gave me a chance with Carl Dumbbell, and I

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Speaker 1: felt like this was finally the system that was really

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Speaker 1: So for them to give me that chance and for

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Speaker 1: us to have that opening day memory and get that

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Speaker 1: win for first Tampa Bay was was amazing. Yeah, I

536
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Speaker 1: can't wait until a week to that home opener because

537
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Speaker 1: he did not have an opportunity play in front of

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Speaker 1: fans last year at MetLife Stadium. There's a lot of

539
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Speaker 1: excitement around this team with Robert Sala. The belief, the

540
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Speaker 1: direction is there with Joe Douglas and Sala. Of course,

541
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Speaker 1: the rookie quarterbacks. So and you got the hated Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Comment was going to more Patriots? Who else would you

543
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Speaker 1: rather play for the home opener? Then bring the Patriots

544
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Speaker 1: here with the rookie quarterback and then storylines. Right, you

545
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Speaker 1: got Mac Jones another first round pick. You're paying week one?

546
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Speaker 1: You got you got Zach wi wasn't going against Sam

547
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Speaker 1: Donald in week two? Right, the NFL knows what they're doing.

548
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Speaker 1: You got Zach Wilon't going against Mac Jones another first

549
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Speaker 1: round quarterback. Yeah, and we'll talk much more about that

550
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Speaker 1: next week. Hey, I wanted to ask you. You are

551
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552
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Speaker 1: And um, this week, actor Michael K. Williams passed and

553
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Speaker 1: what what can you say about what he brought to

554
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Speaker 1: the table on the wire and also Boardwalk Empire? Of course, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very very it was. It's sad first and foremost rested

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Speaker 1: in peace. To Michael Okay, and then um, what he

557
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Speaker 1: brought as an actor was he was just a He

558
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Speaker 1: was a great actor, and I don't think he was

559
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Speaker 1: appreciated enough for the roles that he played in, Like

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Speaker 1: his role and the Wire was amazing, like transcending and

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Speaker 1: then Chalky as as in Boardwalk, Like this guy had

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Speaker 1: what he just did in that, you know, in that

564
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Speaker 1: Assassin Assassin Creed, Like I don't think he got enough

567
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Speaker 1: love for his role in there. He was he was

568
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Speaker 1: amazing in that role. And it's just a very sad situation. Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was only fifty four years old, and if you

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Speaker 1: haven't had the opportunity to watch some of his appearances,

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Speaker 1: and le J and I were talking about it actually

572
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Speaker 1: so many different roles and what a tremendous actor. And

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Speaker 1: finally we'd be remiss if we didn't touch upon nine eleven,

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Speaker 1: twenty years later, the play September twelve, two thousand one,

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Speaker 1: You were a young Buck at that time, but throughout

577
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Speaker 1: your time here, you've really embraced New York. It's fan base,

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Speaker 1: the people. What first comes to mind with nine eleven? Ah, Man, Um,

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Speaker 1: it sucks to say this. I kind of remember it

580
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Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. I remember being in high school

581
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Speaker 1: when we had a lot of kids from New York.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Tampa. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: kids from New York that were you know, migrated, families

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Speaker 1: migrated to Tampa, but they still have family members that

585
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Speaker 1: live in New York. And getting that news that day,

586
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: it just almost didn't seem real, Like everybody thought. I

587
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: just thought it was like a bad joke. Um. And

588
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: just to hear, you know, out of a few classmates

589
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: that had family members that worked in the towers, so

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Speaker 1: it was it was just so surreal, man. And then like,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that it's been that many years,

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Speaker 1: twenty years since that happened, and you know, shout out

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Speaker 1: to you know, all the firemen and first responder, police

594
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Speaker 1: officers just showed up. Um, Like it's it's just so

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Speaker 1: surreal to even to think about that. That day and

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Speaker 1: we'll go down as one of the worst days in

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Speaker 1: American I totally agree. Well said, I remember working at

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Speaker 1: the Jets facility on the campus of Howstree University in

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Speaker 1: Long Island, and it was a Tuesday. It was a

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Speaker 1: beautiful day and might drive home you could see the

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Speaker 1: Frank Raymlow's a legendary pr figure here for the Jets,

603
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: yelled across the hall to myself and Jared Winley, who

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Speaker 1: is the vice president of public relations now here at

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Speaker 1: the Jets, and said, turn on the TV. A plane

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Speaker 1: a hit. It hit uh the towers, one of the towers,

607
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Speaker 1: and we thought all along that hey, it must have

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Speaker 1: been a small plane and somehow somebody lost control or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And then the devastation that filed was just um, it

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Speaker 1: was crushing and tragic. And to think that it spent

611
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Speaker 1: twenty years. I agree with you, it feels like it

612
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: was yesterday. But countless thousands. Not only did we lose

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Speaker 1: the thousands in the attack themselves, in the attach itself,

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Speaker 1: but also how many people were affected and continue to

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Speaker 1: be affected and impacted directly after that. So um, we

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Speaker 1: do you know, it just makes you think. It puts

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Speaker 1: As far as the first responders are concerned, there are

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Speaker 1: Let's bring in a former teammate right now, Shack Lawson

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Speaker 1: a ty crane. What's up my guy doing? I'm doing

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Speaker 1: I just want to know this. When you found out

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Speaker 1: the conversation between you and Joe Douglas and Robert Sala. Uh.

644
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas told me he wanted he liked the energy

645
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: the guy I bring to this team. You know. Uh,

646
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: he brought up that one incident where uh, I think

647
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm teammates who um connor and out about the incident

648
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I had got into it with him after the game.

649
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: So he was basically saying, we need that type of

650
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: dog in this locker room. You know, I'm I'm kind

651
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: of like the older guy here. You know, We've got

652
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: a couple of older guys like C. J. Moseley, Sheldon Rankings,

653
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: but then I'm the next third oldest. So that's basically

654
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: what he told me when when I had got traded.

655
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: So Shack, let's address it right out of the gate then,

656
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: and you just talked about it. What what was the

657
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: incident that happened with you and kind of recovering of

658
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: course mcgoverned at the time playing with the Denver Broncos.

659
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: You lining up with the Buffalo bells and video cameras

660
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: were around post game for something pleasant tries. Oh yeah,

661
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: I guess it started like um, I had checked in

662
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: the game with something. He was like, you shock something.

663
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't He's like, I couldn't remember you as something.

664
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: So after the game I end up having like two sacks.

665
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: I see him coming to talk to Mitch Morris there

666
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: was for my teammates, and then I just let him

667
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: have it. Just John this competitive moment on me. Um.

668
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's all it happened with that. So has

669
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: that beef been squashed is the next question? Because I

670
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: remember the incident. They were playing it all over Sports Center,

671
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: Showtime was playing on inside the NFL. I got two

672
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: sacks on you, I got two sacks on Oh yeah,

673
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: that's be squash man. We squashed that last year because

674
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: I said something to him. I ain't realized he had

675
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: played for the Jets last year, and I looked, I said,

676
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: what's uping Connor? How you doing man? He said, we're good, man,

677
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, we're good. So we had squashed that

678
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: last year when I was with Miami and he was

679
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: up here. Shack, How would you describe the past year?

680
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: You were a factive player with the Miami Dolphins last

681
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: year and then you get traded in an off season

682
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: and then you're traded it again. Oh yeah, so that's

683
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: all season. It's been crazy. Um, I've been traded like

684
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: three months. Um yeah, um going to Houston. I going

685
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: to Houston. Um. Yeah. I had a great year in Miami.

686
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Houston traded for me. I thought I was gonna be

687
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: that guy. But things that worked out down there. Um,

688
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: like I didn't wanted to um and I at the time,

689
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: I've seen that these guys needed help. But m so

690
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: it was a great opportunity for me when I got

691
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: traded to the Jets. That's the first thing I asked

692
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: when they trade me, where I get traded to? And

693
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: I was excited when I found out it was the Jets.

694
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: So what has you most excited about this scheme? Fill

695
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: with Robert Solo. You know you've been in the three

696
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: four system down there in the Miami Dolphins. You know,

697
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you were at the four three with McDermott, but before that,

698
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: you were in the three four Rix Ryan. But coming

699
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: back to this four three schemes, something that you did

700
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: in college at Clemson. Uh, what has you excited about

701
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: this new scheme? Man? This this this, this scheme is

702
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: for the defensive line to make plays that you don't got.

703
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: You an't gotta thank you, just attack and you just

704
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna make plays winning one on one. So I felt

705
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: like in the past, you know how the Rex Ryan

706
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: defense was. It was complicated, it was it was hard,

707
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: and that's how it was for me last year. And

708
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: then at the time of Houston, we played a FO three,

709
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: but it was like we're a lot of six technique

710
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: and when we was a lot of spill team too,

711
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: So it was a lot different than just getting off

712
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: the ball. Blow just called Kaskias. So, um, let's take

713
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: the thinking out of football. It just let you be

714
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: the athlete and the player I can be in the scheme.

715
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: The Jets love your junkyard dog mentality. Um, you bringing

716
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: on and off the field. I was talking to le

717
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: j about you before. He said, is the rookie man

718
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: you were always happen? Oh yes, sir, Yes sir, that's

719
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what made the game fun to me. Um,

720
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: that's that's that's part of my game. I like to talk.

721
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: I like to talk of practice. That's why I feel

722
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: like the place I just left, I couldn't. I couldn't

723
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: be that guy. I couldn't. I couldn't be that guy

724
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: at all. Um basicallydn't really say nothing at all. But

725
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: like they said, they wanted that Juniyard dog, And like

726
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: I said in the interview, I'm just I'm back to

727
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: myself because that's what I like to do. Like I'm

728
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm a chop talk, but I'm gonna lead his team

729
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: and um help these boys out. Let's let's talk about

730
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: some of your your defensive linemates. Right, you got Quintin Williams,

731
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins, Fully Fadakowski, jo John Franklin Myers. You know,

732
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: play defensive vent that can kick inside at the three technique.

733
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: With all these guys are defensive tackle, how does that

734
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: help you as a defensive vent as far as creating

735
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: havoc and get into the quarterback man? You know Quentintin

736
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Quentin had a eight and a half sacked last year.

737
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: You know that's that's gonna make my job a little easy.

738
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: When you got two guys they can push the pocket

739
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: and collapse the pocket and help the two ends get shacks. Man,

740
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: it all works together. You never know who gonna get.

741
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: I might help them out, just make a quarterback step

742
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: up to get a shock. But those guys, they can

743
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: play the run, play playing the past game. So you

744
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: got two legit guys that can two legit inside guys

745
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: that can really do it all. Speaking of doing it all,

746
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: how much pride do you take in what you bring

747
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: to the table in terms of being a run to funder.

748
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: I'll tell you pride of that. You know, that's that's

749
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: how you get to the third and long. If you

750
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: don't stop the run, it might be a long day.

751
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: And dude, dudes, can that uh answer this for me? Man,

752
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: we had a couple of games and my rookie and

753
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: Buffalo we played Miami and we just couldn't stop them,

754
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: stop the run. So after that, I just I just

755
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: took pride and stopping the run. And because you start

756
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: to run on first down, get them anigger to play

757
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: second and long, they got to get a play on

758
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: the get back track or screen or thrown the ball.

759
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: So that's saying no opportunities to get sacks. Yeah, we

760
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: ain't gonna relive none of those man talking about all that.

761
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: My final thing for you when it comes to Shack

762
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: of Lawson, what do you want Jet Nation to know

763
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: about you? I'm on the Jet Nation. No, I'm a

764
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna give everything they got on the field,

765
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: a guy that is big in the community. Right now,

766
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm working on some uh to get back to the

767
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: flood folks that happened to flood up here. So no,

768
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real big on the community and and

769
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: do do good owning off the field with that. So

770
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I want, I want the Jet guys know they're gonna

771
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: get the best version of the shot lined the version

772
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: of Shack when I when I got paid a year

773
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. So all right, Jack, I got a few

774
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: questions for you. How much is your a FC is

775
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: familiar already gonna help you because you started your career

776
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: with the Bills, all your excel last year with the Dolphins,

777
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: and now you're wearing the green and white. Yeah, I

778
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: can't get out of this division to save my life.

779
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I guess it means something. You know,

780
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: you're staying around the division. You played these teams twice

781
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: a year, so they really know what type of player

782
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: you are. Though, so they're really get a good look

783
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: at you all year. So right, that's when the media

784
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: asked me, uh, other days, like you've been on the

785
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: whole a FC, you just missing the pages. I'm like, man,

786
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm just doing something right in this division that keeping

787
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: me around. Yeah, you don't want to go to New England? Hey, nah? Nah?

788
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Is it is it special for you to go and

789
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: play Carolina? Of course you grew up in South Carolina,

790
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: but you're going to Charlotte this weekend to play the

791
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers week one with your new team. Do you

792
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: have any family coming to the game? Oh? Oh yeah, sir,

793
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about an hour and forty minutes away

794
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: from that stadium, so I'm gonna have a lot of

795
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: family coming to that game. It should be should be great.

796
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: What are the numbers and how many guys have you

797
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: had to hit off protect so far? Family member? I

798
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: got by fifteen. I'm giving them up tickets though, they're

799
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: got to sit at the top. No state Texas, well,

800
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: we care a lot of state tests, but there you go. Hey,

801
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: don't give away state secrets. But what what are you

802
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: seeing up front from the Panthers? How do they try

803
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to attack and how are unique is preparing for an

804
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: opponent week one where you haven't seen them play the

805
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: last three or four regular season games. Yeah, it's yeah,

806
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: we won't always be You gotta go back and look

807
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: at the preseason games, maybe in the last year games,

808
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Like are some some guys that haven't been there? You

809
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: might have to go to another team and watch State

810
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: take That's what I've been up doing. But you know,

811
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: you know they got a great back. You know, um,

812
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: Christie mccavin, we gotta stop the run. We gotta stop

813
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: the run and get get up and get him a

814
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: third and long. You know, no Sam Donald playing gast

815
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: his formal team, so you know you're gonna be about that.

816
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: But if we were making one dimensional man, we can

817
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: have a great, great day out there. As as far

818
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: as this offensive line from Carolina, besides Tyler Moten at

819
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: right tackle, you know a lot of these guys are

820
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: world beaters. What have you guys seen on the defensive

821
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: line watching film that you guys can take advantage of. Oh,

822
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: we can take a take advantage of oh a lot man.

823
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, Lauren, probably their best officer line.

824
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: But other guys up there solid too, you know, like

825
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: I said, like like this defense man, you attack, you rush,

826
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: crushed close. So man, we just gotta the quarterback. You know,

827
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: those guys good. I know cam Irvan was supposed to

828
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: be on the other side. I love tackle. I played

829
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: against him a couple of times in college. Um then

830
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: he has if he said Dallas last year. So we

831
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: just gotta be able to be able to tack them

832
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: and change up different moves and give them different looks.

833
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: For most of the last Jarry, you didn't play in

834
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: front of capacity crowds. I mean maybe at best you're

835
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: playing in front of a few thousand people. What do

836
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be like to go to a

837
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: road venue first, but then come back to MetLife Stadium

838
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: and see every seat in the house occupied and those

839
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: buildings being so loud. Once again, man, it's it's gonna

840
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: be great. You know. Last year, I remember Week one

841
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: and it was like we're playing a scrimmage because the

842
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: fans got a lot a dude with the game, you know,

843
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive side of the ball, and the

844
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: at home that's like the six man for the team,

845
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, So when you have the fans involved, getting

846
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: loud on third time. It help us as a defense

847
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: to get off the field, Shack. We appreciate your time today,

848
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for chatting it up with a former teammate and myself.

849
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Good luck this weekend, yes, sir, thank you, and make

850
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: sure we see ty Crane. Man. I want Toy Craine

851
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: to come out. Man, I got you, man. I'm about

852
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: to DM d m U my new number right now. Alright, alright,

853
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: well we have time this week uh for the Official

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Speaker 1: Jets podcast, but Lejay and I will be back next

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Speaker 1: week right here. Enjoy the game, Enjoy opening weekend.